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thoughtdisorder
01-09-2008, 10:32 PM
Sweet RM ! :toast:

freaksavior
01-09-2008, 10:57 PM
updated

Random Murderer
01-10-2008, 03:12 AM
even more:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Bobdole666/pwntnew1.jpg

gerrynicol
01-10-2008, 06:27 PM
new score, got my RAM to o/c more(alot more)

11585

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4623575

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Gerrynicol/11585.jpg

trog100
01-11-2008, 01:10 AM
one more for u freak..

http://www.cavecom.com/pics/3d12881.jpg

trog

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 01:35 AM
if that's the case then without a doubt put the card on water rather than the cpu, 300 or so MHz lower clock because it's on air will have much less of an effect on your score than being able to overclock your card higher because it's on a dedicated loop

Completely agree, but ATM im working through some graphics disfunctions (VPU recoveries) in games . So untill I get this sorted or possibly RMA'd Im going to keep the 3.6GHZ on the CPU...lol

trog100
01-11-2008, 02:34 AM
slowing my card speed down a bit usually cures that for me sneaky.. :roll:

in the case of the 3870 way more than i usually have to.. assuming u aint running stock the answer to your vpu recover problems seems pretty simple to me.. it wont run gaming stable quite as fast as u think it will.. mine didnt..

2006 all day no problems.. but to avoid the odd vpu recover i had to game way slower than it benches 2006 at..

an example.. i could run the fur bench at 885 core... 2006 at 855 core.. but i ended up right down to 830 before i cured the odd vpu recover in games.. this was before the pencil but i expect the same thing to happen just at higher core speeds..

a vpu recover means it aint stable at the speeds u are running it at doing whatever its doing.. pretty simple.. or at least it was for me.. my 3870 does seem to have a way higher "sort of" stable speed than what i have been used to with all my other cards..

885 down to 830 is a very wide "sort of" area i will admit.. but it was the case for me..

trog

ps.. i normally think of 10 mhz core speed variation as a "sort of stable" area.. the 3870 has a way wider one than this.. step by step i went slowly down from what i thought was stable till in the end the vpu recovers stopped completely.. but stopped they did.. and any attempt to game faster brought em back in again..

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 02:44 AM
This card is running stock ATM and the VPU recoveries are in game, for some reason large explosions and very high texture detailed parts of the game cause VPU recoveries.

I can OC the core to 890ish no Vmod to run 05-06 but it doesnt pick up on the issue. So it has to be something the games are using that the synthetics dont test for!

Games that are crashing: COD4 ,FFOW beta, GuildWars TW08 and TOCA run with n issues...oh and this is at low graphical settings as well, set all low or off.

trog100
01-11-2008, 04:57 AM
i had the vpu recovers in all games at much over 830 core.. at 830 i dont get any.. 2006 would bench way over that..

games do find things that the synthetics dont.. or at least it seems with a 3870 card they do.. one is just the fact the games last longer.. or it was with me.. but it was also core speed related.. it sounds a bit dodgy if u are getting vpu recovers at stock speeds.. i just assumed u were running overclocked.. it might be rma time.. run 2006 or not.. if it dosnt play games at stock speeds its faulty..

i have always used 2006 running reliably as a basic stabilty test.. it dont seem to work that way with this card thow.. i played crysis.. cod 4.. gears of war.. the stupid psycho and his mate game.. they all did the same thing over 830.. a vpu recover every so often.. at higher speeds a simple crash or lock up.. if its just the one game i put it down to the game.. when its several its the card..

again i assume u have tried all the known cures so wont bore u with coming out with any guesses..

trog

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 05:04 AM
Ive pretty much put tit through everything I think that is at my disposal to try as a fix without Vmodding. (wont Vmod for stability) As you say looks more and more like an RMA is in order. Im just exausting everything , so I can let Vtek know what I have done so I dont need to troubleshoot with some noob on an email basis!

InPaniC
01-11-2008, 12:12 PM
XP is much faster :)

Q6600@3950
Asus P5E
2 3870@870/1300
4GB DDR-2 Teamgroup/Gskill
Win XP 32
@all water

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/b32838g141_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=b32838g141.jpg)

Soon voltmod and 21k :)

thoughtdisorder
01-11-2008, 01:32 PM
new score, got my RAM to o/c more(alot more)

11585

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4623575

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Gerrynicol/11585.jpg

Dude, Don't be covering up that desktop! What's under those results?:roll:

Oh yeah, nice score too!

gerrynicol
01-11-2008, 01:40 PM
Dude, Don't be covering up that desktop! What's under those results?:roll:

Oh yeah, nice score too!

:laugh: Ok I'll post when I get home.

Gerry.

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 03:12 PM
updated....

no offense guys but i wish we could get some "fresh blood"

is everyone running 7.12?

im about to install 8.1 beta

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 03:19 PM
Im on 7.12....how bout a linky to the betas?

casper250c
01-11-2008, 03:21 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4628301

Gecube 3870 at stock speeds on the Asrock mobo (16x slot at 4x speed highest the board allows)

Will submit a new one later today when I put in the Asus mobo

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 03:22 PM
http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=17612&catid=3

its vista only atm though.

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 03:24 PM
hey casper you plan to OC that system when you get it built?

Reason i ask is it should scream, and that ram if its ballistix shouls do you just fine.

<<<specs for Crucial 667 ram.

Thanks freak , now I wish I hadnt switched back to XP...lol

casper250c
01-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Yes sneekypeet I do intend to OC it once I have the new mobo in thats the reason I got the new board and 100% the reason I went with the CPU I have they OC very well for their reasonably low cost to buy..

Yes the RAM is Ballistix running at 4,3,3,9,1T at 1:1 ratio, and again OC'ing is the reason for buying those as well currently I have bumped things up a little on this mobo (only brought FSB up to 900) to make a run in 3DM06 real quick before I tear the machine down so I'll update again tonight

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 03:38 PM
well the settings of 4-4-4-8 2T is at 2.3V and I am running memtest86+ with no errors at this speed. Good luck with yours. BTW the review I read says he got his to 590 @ 5-5-5-15 at 2.3V.

casper250c
01-11-2008, 04:34 PM
lol sneeky I wish I could take credit for my mem clocks but thats how this mobo set them only thing I did was put it to 1T

asb2106
01-11-2008, 04:43 PM
All settings at default

http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/newpicswresults.htm

its the first pic, sorry i dont have a direct link

asb2106
01-11-2008, 04:45 PM
updated....

no offense guys but i wish we could get some "fresh blood"

is everyone running 7.12?

im about to install 8.1 beta

let me know how those 8.1 drivers go, Id like to give them a try

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 04:47 PM
All settings at default

http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/newpicswresults.htm

its the first pic, sorry i dont have a direct link

hey asb try this link out and set the images to like 800-850pixels....http://www.techpowerup.org/

asb2106
01-11-2008, 04:50 PM
problem is,

I posted them on my free site, and they dont let me download the pics at full rez, I have the pics on my home computer and Im at work right now :(

and they lock down the pics real well, i would do a screen shot but my rez is too low on my laptop to get the whole pic


EDIT --> http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/1207.jpg

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 04:54 PM
This Is abs Score, not mine!!!http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/helptoabs.jpg


Look familiar...I just save the image and hosted it on TPU's host site!

asb2106
01-11-2008, 04:54 PM
thanks for the link sneekypeet

wow, thanks man!

asb2106
01-11-2008, 04:56 PM
so what do you think of the score??

sneekypeet
01-11-2008, 04:59 PM
seems to be on par with the other quads in this list...nice score tho!

trog100
01-11-2008, 05:02 PM
mine is in the wrong place freaky dude.. u altered the score but never moved the position. :cry::cry:

i will have a play with the new drivers.. sorry about the old blood but its all i have :)

trog

ps.. whoops no i wont didnt know they were vista only..

tigger
01-11-2008, 05:13 PM
heres my results with the new driver-

3d06/old driver(7.12)
http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/3d06.jpg

3d06/new driver(8.01)
http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/stock new driver.jpg

Both with my card stock.

Random Murderer
01-11-2008, 05:30 PM
updated....

no offense guys but i wish we could get some "fresh blood"

is everyone running 7.12?

im about to install 8.1 beta

I'm running the 7.12 CCC with the crysis hotfix driver.

asb2106
01-11-2008, 05:33 PM
crysis released a patch too that improves multi-video card support

http://files.filefront.com/Crysis+v11+Patch/;9400533;/fileinfo.html

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 05:35 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/8659.jpg

:wtf:

asb2106
01-11-2008, 05:39 PM
hey question, how is the bandwith regulated on the GPUz result. I have a higher clock and similar memory but my bandwith is 1 ghz less than below

Random Murderer
01-11-2008, 05:45 PM
hey question, how is the bandwith regulated on the GPUz result. I have a higher clock and similar memory but my bandwith is 1 ghz less than below

every 100MHz on the memory is 6GB/s

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 05:46 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/8659.jpg

:wtf:

thats with 8.1

asb2106
01-11-2008, 05:47 PM
every 100mhz on the memory??

Random Murderer
01-11-2008, 05:47 PM
every 100mhz on the memory??

yes, sorry. edited^

asb2106
01-11-2008, 05:51 PM
yes, sorry. edited^

awesome, im sure that helps on the 3dmark alot too. I seem to be stuck at 1300 for my mem, i have a full cover water block so i know they are cool, but are there any tricks or tips you could give me to help break that barrier i have

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 06:13 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/ccc.jpg

i think....its fake.

tigger
01-11-2008, 07:06 PM
I got a slightly higher score on mine at stock.

I just looked,my driver version is the same as yours.

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 07:12 PM
why did my score drop 3000 points then?

InPaniC
01-11-2008, 07:25 PM
Mb wrong installed? U deinstalled old driver before? I have 1-2% more points, not realy important but the driver is very stable. (BTW: Its definitely a new driver)

freaksavior
01-11-2008, 07:28 PM
i didn't unistall drivers first. just installed 8.1

i ran it on my dads login (my second login) and got this

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/Untitled-1.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/yeah.jpg

im stuck at 11k

Wile E
01-11-2008, 09:29 PM
why did my score drop 3000 points then?Sometimes 3DMark just bugs out. Rebooting usually fixes it.

asb2106
01-11-2008, 09:34 PM
why did my score drop 3000 points then?

I have had similar problems on mine too, I think it might be related to the p965 chipset, when your FSB reaches certain levels you PCI-E slot will sometimes kick back to an 8x or 4x and in my case, a 1x you can check that in GPUz or CPUz on the mainboard page. When i hit 391 my board kicks back to a 1x on PCIe. It used to do it a 360 and with some tweaks in the mobo I was able to get it up to 390. One of my problems were that my SB voltage was too low

asb2106
01-11-2008, 11:35 PM
These are my latest results
http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/1.11.5.30.jpg

im gonna get into the bios now and see if I cant push the FSB up some without loosing my bandwith on the PCIe bus. Ill post my results when i am finished

Im getting there, I was able to hit 13,300 but Im gonna push until I cannot go any farther!~

ToeMoss
01-12-2008, 02:16 AM
This thread convinced me to buy the Radeon 3870 card. Just installed it so this is out of the box performance. I'm new to benchmarking so please let me know if I've set a parameter wrong and should resubmit.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6483/3dmarknewcardoutofboxvt6.png

Steevo
01-12-2008, 02:41 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080111/3D06.jpg


Another score, now I will have to crank up my card to where I had it before.

Blacklash
01-12-2008, 04:24 AM
HD 3850 256Mb Crossfire, Vista HP x64, Cat 7.12, 760|1029

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4459470

Using Vista cost about 500-750pnts. The above was done with a 3.5GHz Q6600 G-0 in a BX2 motherboard.

Dr. Spankenstein
01-12-2008, 04:28 AM
w00t! Another "Bad Axe" owner!
Great score! Welcome to the club, man!!

asb2106
01-12-2008, 06:31 AM
below i have included results of both
]
Here is my vista results
http://img.techpowerup.org/080112/1.11.9.0.jpg

Here is my XP results
http://img.techpowerup.org/080112/1.12.12.25.jpg

Bytor
01-12-2008, 04:10 PM
AMD 6000+ @ 3.4
Core @ 857
Memory @ 1359

Scored 11284 on one card

http://i5.tinypic.com/72ko6qw.jpg

freaksavior
01-12-2008, 05:19 PM
updated

asb2106
01-12-2008, 07:02 PM
updated

Sorry you have to update this again but I was able to get up quite a bit!

http://img.techpowerup.org/080112/1.12.12.55.jpg

casper250c
01-12-2008, 10:54 PM
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5880/benchps3.png


This is on my new mobo both the 3870 oc'ed some and my CPU it's not bad but it's not great either what is holding me back?

sneekypeet
01-12-2008, 10:58 PM
sorry for being out of the loop , but is the new mobo the one in your specs?

casper250c
01-12-2008, 11:04 PM
No lol I just updated my specs as you were typing that

mikek75
01-12-2008, 11:13 PM
This is on my new mobo both the 3870 oc'ed some and my CPU it's not bad but it's not great either what is holding me back?[/QUOTE]

I don't think thats too far out, my E6750 at 3.4ghz and my card at 843/1251 got just over 11900, so your score at 3 ghz sounds about right.:toast:

Bytor
01-12-2008, 11:16 PM
AMD 6000+ @ 3.4
Core @ 857
Memory @ 1377

13752

http://i6.tinypic.com/80wyyxy.jpg

Random Murderer
01-12-2008, 11:23 PM
holy freakin crap!
how'd you get the memory to that speed? volt mod?

casper250c
01-12-2008, 11:28 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4668875

Lil bit better but not much, think I need to push the cpu a little more? :P It takes whatever I throw at it so far so I should have some room left

d0s
01-12-2008, 11:28 PM
Hey noticed this thread, already posted in the 3dmark06 thread. :) Was really surprised how well the 3870 can do :).

http://img.techpowerup.org/080103/R14080.jpg

Dr. Spankenstein
01-12-2008, 11:33 PM
@ Random,

So you see! I told you that the mem speed is affecting bandwidth. Look at Bytor and asb2106's latest results. Can't sneeze at that!!
asb2106's example makes it extremely clear. Core clocks stay the same but up the mem by approx. 27Mhz and you boost the bandwidth from 84.7GB to 86.4GB!
Sure he upped his CPU clock by 17.5Mhz, but 100 more 3DM06 points is pretty darn impressive. Which change do you think made the most impact?

Bytor's latest is proof positive that mem clocks are key.

casper250c
01-13-2008, 12:09 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4669461

my best so far I don't think I can get much more out of it :(
this is with cpu at 3.2

Bytor
01-13-2008, 12:18 AM
That last post is in crossfire...

thoughtdisorder
01-13-2008, 12:35 AM
AMD 6000+ @ 3.4
Core @ 857
Memory @ 1377

13752

http://i6.tinypic.com/80wyyxy.jpg


Pretty sweet Bytor!:toast:

Dr. Spankenstein
01-13-2008, 12:39 AM
That last post is in crossfire.
Oh...that's right.:o

BTW, how's it working out?

asb2106
01-13-2008, 12:42 AM
@ Random,

So you see! I told you that the mem speed is affecting bandwidth. Look at Bytor and asb2106's latest results. Can't sneeze at that!!
asb2106's example makes it extremely clear. Core clocks stay the same but up the mem by approx. 27Mhz and you boost the bandwidth from 84.7GB to 86.4GB!
Sure he upped his CPU clock by 17.5Mhz, but 100 more 3DM06 points is pretty darn impressive. Which change do you think made the most impact?

Bytor's latest is proof positive that mem clocks are key.

Here yah go, this is as high as I can get, and I left the CPU clock the same and upped the Memory even more. I actually get the best response in games with my memory being up!!

Im gona leave my numbers as is until I get my new mobo and second 3870(thinking by the end of january), and when that comes around I will repeat my tests and hit the highest I can! Im alittle upset because the only thing stopping me now is the processor, I cannot get it any higher because when i do I loose the bandwith on the PCIe slot.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080112/1.12.6.14.jpg

Random Murderer
01-13-2008, 12:48 AM
Here yah go, this is as high as I can get, and I left the CPU clock the same and upped the Memory even more. I actually get the best response in games with my memory being up!!

Im gona leave my numbers as is until I get my new mobo and second 3870(thinking by the end of january), and when that comes around I will repeat my tests and hit the highest I can! Im alittle upset because the only thing stopping me now is the processor, I cannot get it any higher because when i do I loose the bandwith on the PCIe slot.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080112/1.12.6.14.jpg

how are you clocking the memory on your 3870 so high?

asb2106
01-13-2008, 12:49 AM
[QUOTE=d0s;607689]Hey noticed this thread, already posted in the 3dmark06 thread. :) Was really surprised how well the 3870 can do :).

Hey d0s, question...

What MOBO are you using?? Ive had enough with mine, and buying a new one. I know my proc can do much higher than it has been and my mobo needs to go, gettin old!

asb2106
01-13-2008, 12:51 AM
how are you clocking the memory on your 3870 so high?

Well honestly nothing special,

When i started the highest i could get it was 1300, so i bumped the PCIe frequency in the bios up to 110 and I am able to get to this. No pencil or other mods, and my card is water cooled(EK full cover) so maybe its just keeping it cool enough.

The_Real_DeaL31
01-13-2008, 01:35 AM
thats some fuXXing crazy scores man gj, would do u guys think i'll get if i switch my back up 3850 to a 3870, with my system specs

asb2106
01-13-2008, 01:39 AM
which system, the x2 or the 3200??

x2 i would say around 11000

3200 - 8500 maybe 9000

erocker
01-13-2008, 01:42 AM
Some of you guys really need to post your scores here:http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995


You can put ATi back on top again.:D

asb2106
01-13-2008, 01:46 AM
Some of you guys really need to post your scores here:http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995


You can put ATi back on top again.:D

Thanks for the link, I posted there!


Well now that Im done benching for awhile im gonna reinstall my vista OS, Im thinkin of trying the Leopard OS, for shits and giggles

Bytor
01-13-2008, 01:58 AM
Dr. Spankenstein,

First off thanks again for the help when I first installed them.
Its working great.. I'm very happy with these cards and how they are running. The image quality is very noticeable over the X1950's I pulled out of my rig. I really like the 3Dmark scores they are putting out, even if they are not as high as others here. If the AMD quads ever get to 3 gigs I think that would help my scores alot.

Do you think moving up to PC8500 memory would help much if any?

The_Real_DeaL31
01-13-2008, 02:04 AM
i would think so. maybe a small performance gain

asb2106
01-13-2008, 02:06 AM
the extra cores are the biggest improvement! my e6600 scores with similar clocks on proc and GPU was around 11,300 up to 13,800 where im at now. I was suprised to see such a big difference but those CPU tests really do use the extra cores well~!

The_Real_DeaL31
01-13-2008, 02:08 AM
my second is 754 socket wouldnt work agp lol, i ment what would my score be with my third system
64 3200+ venice 2.0 ghz oced to 2.8ghz
Asus a8n-e
ati sapphire x1600pro
Ozc pc3200 ddr400 1gb kit
enermax 460watt 32 amps 12v rail

Dr. Spankenstein
01-13-2008, 02:34 AM
Dr. Spankenstein,

First off thanks again for the help when I first installed them.
Its working great.. I'm very happy with these cards and how they are running. The image quality is very noticeable over the X1950's I pulled out of my rig. I really like the 3Dmark scores they are putting out, even if they are not as high as others here. If the AMD quads ever get to 3 gigs I think that would help my scores alot.

Do you think moving up to PC8500 memory would help much if any?


No problem! Love to help! Glad you're enjoying it! They do have a way with making things look real purdy!!:D

In regards to your memory question, I think it depends more on the chipset. Intel chipsets like bandwidth, so for me it would help. Your 780 chipset probably likes small latencies.
So...if you got some ultra-tight 8500 memory you would see some improvement, but don't quote me as I have ZERO experience with AMD chips/chipsets.:o

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 02:38 AM
what wareblock covers ALL of the 3870? and wich covers just the chip?

im thinking of buying a watercooling setup (piece by peice, not a kit) and i dk if i should do the card also.

sad thing is i take my computer apart alot! and i change parts a lot also.

d0s
01-13-2008, 02:38 AM
Hey d0s, question...

What MOBO are you using?? Ive had enough with mine, and buying a new one. I know my proc can do much higher than it has been and my mobo needs to go, gettin old!

I'm using a Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6. It's been a brilliant board so far not had any issues but i can't seem to reach that magc 4Ghz mark. I'm guessing the chip just wont do it! :) Complete specs in the system on my profile :)

asb2106
01-13-2008, 02:40 AM
I'm using a Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6. It's been a brilliant board so far not had any issues but i can't seem to reach that magc 4Ghz mark. I'm guessing the chip just wont do it! :) Complete specs in the system on my profile :)

Yah i was kinda wondering because your specs say a 8800gts. Im going with the maximus formula(i considered the dq6 for a long time), and Im hoping I can hit that 4ghz my self!

Bytor
01-13-2008, 02:44 AM
Swiftech MCW60 is what I'm using on my pair of 3870's. That block plus ram sinks do a great job with less flow restriction than a full cover block. But I dont know of a full cover block for them yet. If its out there please share it with us..

Bytor
01-13-2008, 02:47 AM
Found this full cover block for the 3870's.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekfc3870cf.html

d0s
01-13-2008, 02:47 AM
Yah i was kinda wondering because your specs say a 8800gts. Im going with the maximus formula(i considered the dq6 for a long time), and Im hoping I can hit that 4ghz my self!

The 3870 is for my second system, thought i'd give it a bench on this system. Was really impressed once I flashed the card to get rid of the divider issue around 862mhz on the core. I'm using stock cooling tempted to whack the Thermalright HR-03 GT heatsink on it.

Just noticed you had a P5B Deluxe I could only get to 3.6Ghz on it. Also had the issue of the PCI-E slot going into x1 mode. My friend has a Maximus Formula SE. It seems an ok board had some issue with Northbridge temps whack a watercooling system in there and its fine. He is only using a E6600 that can go to 3.7Ghz it does seem okies :).

Bytor
01-13-2008, 02:50 AM
DOs,

How did you flash the card and with what?

Thanks

d0s
01-13-2008, 03:05 AM
Erm, you'll have to leave it with me. I've got the utilities at home on a pendrive with the BIOS and flashing utility for DOS.

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 05:02 AM
Found this full cover block for the 3870's.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekfc3870cf.html

WOW!!!!!! $103 + shipping

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 05:13 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4669461

my best so far I don't think I can get much more out of it :(
this is with cpu at 3.2

i cant tell what the mem and core are for your 3870

updated it, every one check it and tell me if anythings wrong. i like updated stuff and accurate stuff ;)

p.s

To let everyone know why this thread is here is so people can get an idea of what to expect from there 3870 or 3850 so the more people who post their results the more info and more accurate things will be :D

ArmoredCavalry
01-13-2008, 05:34 AM
I get a feeling that a lot of these cards, while they get good ratings in 3dmark06, would crash and burn after a few hours of gameplay. lol

Random Murderer
01-13-2008, 05:36 AM
I get a feeling that a lot of these cards, while they get good ratings in 3dmark06, would crash and burn after a few hours of gameplay. lol

mine is crysis stable at 891/1300, even for hours at a time.

ArmoredCavalry
01-13-2008, 05:39 AM
mine is crysis stable at 891/1300, even for hours at a time.

Did you replace the stock fan??

casper250c
01-13-2008, 05:45 AM
freaksavior sorry I thought it showed I dint look the core is 862 the mem is 2550

casper250c
01-13-2008, 05:45 AM
Still I wonder what is holding it back right now my goal was to hit 12000 so I still have a ways to go

Wile E
01-13-2008, 08:13 AM
Still I wonder what is holding it back right now my goal was to hit 12000 so I still have a ways to goTry to get more from your cpu and ram. Also, have you tried the pencil mods for your card?

trog100
01-13-2008, 02:58 PM
I get a feeling that a lot of these cards, while they get good ratings in 3dmark06, would crash and burn after a few hours of gameplay. lol

it depends where u come from on this one.. this thread is about benching so i recon the only stability u need is to be able to run the bench.. but u are perfectly correct.. crash and burn in gaming.. yep..

an example.. with mine at the moment..

the fur bench.. not much stability needed.. mine will do it at 931 on the core no problem.. the next speed step would be 944.. it might just make it i havnt tried..

2006.. a bit more stability needed mine makes the trip at 918 on the core..

genuine gaming stability.. way lower.. i would say a good 40 mhz on the core at least..

the 3870 seems a bit odd cos it has very wide "nearly but not quite" stability band.. this might be a driver thing.. dunno..

the other problem is the 13mhz jump.. nothing in between..

trog

ps.. my card has been pencil modded.. a small voltage increase up from a smidge less than 1.35 to a smidge less than 1.4.. this seems to be good for another 50mhz on the core speed..

a higher voltage would give more.. 1.5 makes things very toasty indeed thow..

asb2106
01-13-2008, 03:28 PM
This is where I got my Full cover block from if anyone was interested, its the same one that was posted below, and its in stock directly from the manufacturer.

Heres a pic if you wanted to check it out
My temps are great, the core has never reached 36C and cant go wrong with a single slot cooler!!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080113/100_0057556.jpg

asb2106
01-13-2008, 03:30 PM
Swiftech MCW60 is what I'm using on my pair of 3870's. That block plus ram sinks do a great job with less flow restriction than a full cover block. But I dont know of a full cover block for them yet. If its out there please share it with us..

I had my MCW60 on my 3870 for a few days until this one came in, and my systems flow did drop but it was very minimally, nothing to worry about, and I was really fed up with how many slots the mcw60 took up inside the case.

asb2106
01-13-2008, 03:34 PM
I get a feeling that a lot of these cards, while they get good ratings in 3dmark06, would crash and burn after a few hours of gameplay. lol

Those numbers that I post are the same that I play games on, I played crysis on 877core/1386mem for over 2 hours. No errors, when I had my core at 904 I got driver response errors and the driver would reset, so i only bench at what my card can play games at. I feel that is the best representation of a benchmark, because if it cant play games(what its made for), then what is it worth?

EDIT** and great temps with water

Bytor
01-13-2008, 03:35 PM
I do like that it does free up a slot. Can you take a pic of the back plate from the top of the card?

Thanks

asb2106
01-13-2008, 03:41 PM
I do like that it does free up a slot. Can you take a pic of the back plate from the top of the card?

Thanks

well, no backplate, I just bought some washers from a local hardware store
http://img.techpowerup.org/080113/100_0078.jpg

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 04:34 PM
^^ nice...whats your complete setup?

asb2106
01-13-2008, 04:42 PM
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=49340

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 04:47 PM
would it be ok if i had a rad with 2 x 120mm on the bottom of case and one 120mm in the back??

so this

http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-dual-quiet-radiator.html

and one of these

http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcr120-quiet-radiator.html

so (in the yellow boxes)
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/Coolermaster/IMG_0041-1.jpg

i would get rid off the 4 side fans and keep the one up top, back (were the 120mm rad would go) the 2 at the bottom ( were the 2 x 120mm rad would go) and the 2 up front

Bytor
01-13-2008, 04:55 PM
Very nice, no back plate.. hhmmmm

thanks

asb2106
01-13-2008, 05:30 PM
one radiator on the bottom would be really cool. I wanted to do that too but I couldnt find a case that would accomidate. It looks like the bottom there on yours is mesh, so as long as you could blow the fans through the radiator I dont see why not.

that case is the stacker 830 right?

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 05:34 PM
Stacker RC-832 but basically the same.

i got 2 x 120mm under it atm and i could put 2 more on top of it so that should cool it REALLY well.

after i'm done paying for my monitor (still paying for this thing) i might go water. i want a q9450 and either the x38 or x48 (if x48 supports ddr2)

i basically want my computer to be the following
q9450
4 gb ddr2 800
2 x 3870's
(all watercooled)
asus x48 (if oc well)

my current psu, case, and monitor.

then not upgrade for like 3 years

asb2106
01-13-2008, 05:38 PM
Stacker RC-832 but basically the same.

i got 2 x 120mm under it atm and i could put 2 more on top of it so that should cool it REALLY well.

after i'm done paying for my monitor (still paying for this thing) i might go water. i want a q9450 and either the x38 or x48 (if x48 supports ddr2)

i basically want my computer to be the following
q9450
4 gb ddr2 800
2 x 3870's
(all watercooled)
asus x48 (if oc well)

my current psu, case, and monitor.

then not upgrade for like 3 years

thats the same thing Im going for, getting it up to the latest chipset(and i dont think x48 will support ddr2) so i am going x38, im gonna stick with my q6600, 4gbs ocz gold 800, im adding an additional 3870, and im gonna stop for the next few years. I have spent way to much on my computer in the last 2 years(upwards of 5 g's) and i want to get something Im happy with and stick with it for awhile.

For some reason I dont think thats gonna happen, I think I love doing work on my computer just as much as using my computer. And ever since moving to a Core2 I have had the itch to upgrade over and over.

gerrynicol
01-13-2008, 05:40 PM
Could we have a Vista section for us poor suckers running it :o

Only joking, how much of a drop do you get with Vista??

asb2106
01-13-2008, 05:42 PM
ive noticed about a 250 - 300 point drop with vista.

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 05:43 PM
if you want a vista section, i can add it.

tbh, i think it's getting a little hard to read though,

We got a
crossfire, quad core, dual core, 3850, and 3870 section

freaksavior
01-13-2008, 05:44 PM
@ asb2106

are you on aim?

gerrynicol
01-13-2008, 05:45 PM
if you want a vista section, i can add it.

tbh, i think it's getting a little hard to read though,

We got a
crossfire, quad core, dual core, 3850, and 3870 section

Nah it's ok, was just wondering if I wouldv'e hit 12K if not for Vista :)

Cheers anyway.

niko084
01-13-2008, 06:04 PM
Grr... Lost my screen shot, I'll have to clock again just to do it...

*NOT STABLE* - For gaming and such, stable and looked good for the test, also had to open the side of my case....

But my machine @ 3600 1:1 ram, my card at 770/1004 I did just barely over 11k... It was like 11004 or something... I'll do it again here sometime and get a screen shot :(

trog100
01-13-2008, 06:47 PM
i have two basic system speeds.. one with everything right on the edge for bragging rights.. "benching"..

one a nice stable easy on everything about 10% slower than balls out speed for everyday use.. i have abit guru so can swop to my benching speeds at the click of a mouse button..

without guru i would just run the one guaranteed stable but slightly slower speed..

if i had to piss about in the bios just to get max scores for benching i woudnt bother.. so in some ways i have an advantage..

trog

uber_cookie
01-13-2008, 06:49 PM
My results :slap:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4682271

http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/3dm0613551.JPGhttp://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/gpu-z.JPG
http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/cpu-z-2.JPG

asb2106
01-13-2008, 07:12 PM
My results :slap:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4682271

http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/3dm0613551.JPGhttp://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/gpu-z.JPG
http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/cpu-z-2.JPG

what kind of mobo are u using??

uber_cookie
01-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Maximus Formula SE
Won't boot on x9 CPU but goes more than that on FSB... unstable after 2hours or so of running.
but this settup is running for abit now stable

CPU-Z page
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=297057

asb2106
01-13-2008, 07:59 PM
the maximus formula is the board that im gonna buy in the next few weeks, I have one but they sent me the non SE, so i returned it, and now I cannot get a SE anywhere. SO im just gonna pick up another formula. They seem to be one of the best x38 DDR2 boards, what was that about abit? they are running stable?

uber_cookie
01-13-2008, 08:05 PM
i'm waiting for some money to buy costum blocks for my maximus, the official ain't what i expected... complete bollocks. pardon my language

asb2106
01-13-2008, 08:08 PM
thats the reason im going with the formula, im gonna put my own blocks on it, I am worried because everybody i talk to about the board says that the SE blocks kill your flow rate

Random Murderer
01-13-2008, 08:31 PM
thats the reason im going with the formula, im gonna put my own blocks on it, I am worried because everybody i talk to about the board says that the SE blocks kill your flow rate

ask mandelore about that. he's got a maximus formula se and runs the stock block...

asb2106
01-13-2008, 08:32 PM
I went back into Vista to stop testing, and I got the itch, I dont know what happened but im able to hit 1404 on the memory! Wow does vista really destroy your CPU score though! Well im gonna work on upping the proc more without loosing my PCIe bandwith, wish me luck

http://img.techpowerup.org/080113/1.13.2.29vista.jpg

freaksavior
01-14-2008, 01:58 AM
updated

asb2106
01-14-2008, 03:13 AM
I need help thats quite unrelated to the topic, Im looking to get drivers for the 3870 for OSX Leopard. Im a PC guy all day but all the buzz has peaked my interest and I wanted to test it. I have it up(infact im on it now) and I cannot give it a fair result without having proper drivers for the video. On my 2 monitors(24 & 19) Im running 1024*768, and its horrible, if anyone has anything please let me know.

And Im sorry about posting here!

Dr. Spankenstein
01-14-2008, 03:16 AM
You said before you wanted to try Leopard for "shits and giggles". Something tells me it's going to be more along the lines of "just the shits".:laugh:

Good luck though!

asb2106
01-14-2008, 03:20 AM
You said before you wanted to try Leopard for "shits and giggles". Something tells me it's going to be more along the lines of "just the shits".:laugh:

Good luck though!

you are right, it works but there are no drivers for it!! ive found drivers out there, but i have no clue how to use IRC to download files from there

freaksavior
01-14-2008, 04:48 PM
bump...btw this thread is also support, got a question about 38X0 card just ask

asb2106
01-14-2008, 04:54 PM
I need help thats quite unrelated to the topic, Im looking to get drivers for the 3870 for OSX Leopard. Im a PC guy all day but all the buzz has peaked my interest and I wanted to test it. I have it up(infact im on it now) and I cannot give it a fair result without having proper drivers for the video. On my 2 monitors(24 & 19) Im running 1024*768, and its horrible, if anyone has anything please let me know.

And Im sorry about posting here!

Got the drivers!! Now I have to wait till I get home from work to try them out! Im hoping it works so I can give it a fair review.

tigger
01-14-2008, 08:16 PM
well i set the vgpu to 1.36vgpu and tried it at 790mhz core on 3d06.It stomped it,this is with the core at 790mhz and my ram stock.It beat my stock score by loads.

It seems the 22turn trimmer i have is roughly equal to 0.1volt increase per 3 full turns of the screw.

The max temp while running 3d06 with the voltage on 1.36v was 53c using riva tuner to monitor it while i ran 3dmark.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/wow.jpg

I will post some more scores later,i gotta go out :(

asb2106
01-14-2008, 08:19 PM
very very impressive mod, i would like to do that to my 3870 but im gonna wait until it becomes alittle old, just incase i destroy it I dont want to feel like i wasted 250 bucks!

uber_cookie
01-14-2008, 08:26 PM
Ok more updates to my score :)
http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/3dm0613781.JPG

And The Family of apps :)

URL: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4701318

http://www.bornsystems.com/imgs/bmrk/3dmark-hwmon13781-cpuz.JPG

Dr. Spankenstein
01-14-2008, 10:03 PM
Well, you'll all be happy to know I LOST stability on my cards after I removed the blob of stock paste and replaced it with MX-2!:eek:

This sucks. The cards actually seem hotter even though the temp gauge in CCC say it's running cooler. Tried running Auto-tune (for giggles) and it got me up to 930 core before it hung (my first run of this Auto-tune before changing paste got me to 950 before hang) and the temps were only reported as 52C at 99% load. Of course any attempt to actually "run" the fur bench caused an instant freeze/lock-up. Boo!:mad:

This pencil mod stuff is too fidgety, Ima getin' the stuf to hard mod these suckas!:rockout:

p.s. BTW, nice score uber cookie! Would you be so kind as to adding your "System specs" in your User CP? I'm interested in what board your operating with.

casper250c
01-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Well I finally hit my goal I had set for myself of 12000 :D but I don't think I can get much more out of this thing without buying a better CPU

12172

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8134/12172gk4.png

casper250c
01-14-2008, 10:45 PM
Only other thing I could try is the voltmod but I'm don't want to fry this poor thing how dangerous to the card is it?

Blacklash
01-14-2008, 10:45 PM
w00t! Another "Bad Axe" owner!
Great score! Welcome to the club, man!!

Supposedly you can do Crossfire X in the BX2. I may grab another 3850 and find out :p

The last slot would only be 4x and it would still be worth something I'd think.

Dr. Spankenstein
01-14-2008, 11:46 PM
Whaaaaaa!!!???:eek:
I wonder how that can be? It's just a 975 chipset....:confused:

Linkage?

jimbo405
01-15-2008, 12:01 AM
asb2106608829

Can you run f.e.a.r benchmark?
?


what do you score? if you do what did you score at what res/settings?

or crysis benchmark?


i want to see what fps you are pulling with that 3870.

tigger
01-15-2008, 12:06 AM
Heres my latest,with my 3850's core at 810mhz at 1.36vpu,and mem at 999mhz.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/810 core.jpg

I'll post pics of my vmod tommorow.

trog100
01-15-2008, 12:34 AM
u are getting there tigger... he he he

trog

casper250c
01-15-2008, 12:36 AM
Dr. Spankenstein,

Here ya go buddy

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4703640

This is the one you ment correct?

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 12:40 AM
Oh sorry, I was addressing Backlash in regards to Crossfire X on a Bad Axe 2 board.

But thanks for the Futuremark link. I find they are always enlightening when it comes to comparing systems.

tigger
01-15-2008, 12:42 AM
The temps been 54c max on 3dmark 06.im gonna try higher clocks on 1.36 before i try the vgpu higher.

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 01:01 AM
Go tigger, go!!!

Random Murderer
01-15-2008, 01:08 AM
yea, don't start worrying about temps until about 75°C.

asb2106
01-15-2008, 01:44 AM
Well I finally hit my goal I had set for myself of 12000 :D but I don't think I can get much more out of this thing without buying a better CPU

12172

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8134/12172gk4.png

Thats a very impressive score for a Dual core!

asb2106
01-15-2008, 01:45 AM
asb2106608829

Can you run f.e.a.r benchmark?
?


what do you score? if you do what did you score at what res/settings?

or crysis benchmark?


i want to see what fps you are pulling with that 3870.

yah, I just came down with the flu :( I ended up naping the whole afternoon, but ill get FEAR on there right now and run the bench, give me 20 minutes

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 01:52 AM
Whatta trooper! That's what TPU is about!!:rockout:

asb2106
01-15-2008, 01:59 AM
hey whats rez should I run, I havent ran FEAR since my 1950PRO

asb2106
01-15-2008, 01:59 AM
Whatta trooper! That's what TPU is about!!:rockout:

Thanks, glad to hear I fit in, no matter how sick you still have to show love for the PC

asb2106
01-15-2008, 02:20 AM
65 min
97 avg
188 max

maximum
maximum
1600x1200

tried to take a screen shot but ....

nm just took a shot with my camera (screenie wouldnt work)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/100_0081.jpg

EDIT** Thought I would add this too!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/Untitled1.jpg

asb2106
01-15-2008, 02:24 AM
is my pic too blurry or can everone read it??


hehe J/K

asb2106
01-15-2008, 02:31 AM
OOOOOOHHHHH SHAT, you want to hear something really funny!!!

During the FEAR test runs I had BOINC running 100% doing my SETI work!~!

Man I love the Q6600

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 02:35 AM
Holy shitmonkey! How does your mem get that high? Those full-coverage EK blocks are doin' their thing!!

I am awed!:respect:

asb2106
01-15-2008, 02:36 AM
Holy shitmonkey! How does your mem get that high? Those full-coverage EK blocks aer doin' their thing!!

I am awed!:respect:

Thanks, and thats un-modded, Ive been thinking I might hurt my performance if I even try, so I think Im not gonna touch

Just hope I can get so lucky when i get my 2nd one too!

freaksavior
01-15-2008, 02:54 AM
@ casper

what card do you have? (duh a 3870 but what brand?) also what cooling? how did you get them mem so high on yours!

casper250c
01-15-2008, 04:21 AM
It's a GeCube with stock cooling and all I did was turn the mem up in CCC why it goes as high as it does I don't know, I was actually thinking it was kinda low compared to others here on TPU.. I might be able to get it higher but thats as high as CCC goes I'll need to use RivaTuner to go beyond but my Core is at its max if I try to go above where I am the card just freezes thats why I was asking how dangerous to the card the voltmod is I'm sure it could go higher but it's just not getting enough juice..

asb2106
01-15-2008, 04:23 AM
It's a GeCube with stock cooling and all I did was turn the mem up in CCC why it goes as high as it does I don't know, I was actually thinking it was kinda low compared to others here on TPU..

I think it has to do with the GECUBE, I have the same brand and Im up to 1413 on the Memory right now, maybe they are doing something special with these, funny, when I went to buy the card it was the cheapest 3870 on the egg!

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 04:24 AM
My HIS has Samsung .08 mem.

Random Murderer
01-15-2008, 04:29 AM
My HIS has Samsung .08 mem.

i'm not sure what chips mine has, i would assume .08ns hynix or samsung...

Blacklash
01-15-2008, 04:55 AM
Whaaaaaa!!!???:eek:
I wonder how that can be? It's just a 975 chipset....:confused:

Linkage?

Well it was from the Inquirer so a huge heap of salt may be needed.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/29/crossfire-work-nvidia-intel-amd

Seems logical to me as the BX2 has two 8x slots with one 4x. I am not sure how you would work out the bridges though. I guess two cards connected and one without.

I'll probably end up with two 3870 X2s so it won't matter :p

Random Murderer
01-15-2008, 04:59 AM
Well it was from the Inquirer so a huge heap of salt may be needed.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/29/crossfire-work-nvidia-intel-amd

Seems logical to me as the BX2 has two 8x slots with one 4x. I am not sure how you would work out the bridges though. I guess two cards connected and one without.

wow, so trifire on non-cfx boards?

gerrynicol
01-15-2008, 05:40 AM
Well I finally hit my goal I had set for myself of 12000 :D but I don't think I can get much more out of this thing without buying a better CPU

12172

Your clocks are roughly the same as mine yet your getting ~ 700 more points extra??, I am running vista but that shouldn't make 700 points of a difference:ohwell::ohwell:

Any1 shed some light on a confused soul

gerrynicol
01-15-2008, 07:02 PM
Thats it, machine is tapped out, managed a run at 3.4Ghz on the proc barley stable.

11740

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4715598

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Gerrynicol/11740.jpg

InPaniC
01-15-2008, 07:44 PM
Why dont use unlocked biosmod? 860/1200 seems stabil with your card.

gerrynicol
01-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Meh, it's no hassle just using CCC to change it:o

I have not flashed a bios since my old 6800GT, just wish the proc could go further(and the core lol)

trog100
01-15-2008, 11:23 PM
careful with that 860 bios.. the real clock jumps up in 13 mhz jumps.. it aint what the CCC says most of the time..

855 could be a real 845.. moving up just i on the CCC could cause a big leap in the core speed and instant instability..

the 830/1200 (a real 823) one is safe.. i dont think the other one is for most people..

trog

Random Murderer
01-15-2008, 11:24 PM
careful with that 860 bios.. the real clock jumps up in 13 mhz jumps.. it aint what the CCC says most of the time..

855 could be a real 845.. moving up just i on the CCC could cause a big leap in the core speed and instant instability..

the 830/1200 one is safe.. i dont think the other one is for most people..

trog

yea, without a voltmod on my card, the highest stable i could reach was about 840.

gerrynicol
01-15-2008, 11:41 PM
With the core at 860Mhz, GPUZ shows an actual of 857Mhz which is stable for me, if I go above this the screen blanks and I have to hard reset.

Dr. Spankenstein
01-15-2008, 11:53 PM
Time to flash to modded BIOS...

gerrynicol
01-15-2008, 11:59 PM
Nah, I'm gonna keep the card at least a month before doing any mods lol. I am toying with the voltmod, with the HR-03-GT the temps are not an issue, full whack at O/C'd speeds does not go above 51c. Just need to look out my old MM and get a new battery for it :ohwell:

Dr. Spankenstein
01-16-2008, 12:26 AM
That's fine, I'm just sayin': "That's why your card locks above 862." It's a built-in divider that fails. Link (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166334).

Flash it to the 830/1200 BIOS, then you can determine what you card is capable of at stock voltages. ;)





(you know you want to.....):p

gerrynicol
01-16-2008, 03:54 AM
So if I flash to the 830/ 1200 Bios, what does it change except from the speeds?? will I be able to past 860 then??

Sorry if thats a silly question just not sure:o

Random Murderer
01-16-2008, 03:56 AM
So if I flash to the 830/ 1200 Bios, what does it change except from the speeds?? will I be able to past 860 then??

Sorry if thats a silly question just not sure:o

It changes your speeds and fixes a PLL error in the original BIOS that limits the core clocks to 862.

gerrynicol
01-16-2008, 04:02 AM
It changes your speeds and fixes a PLL error in the original BIOS that limits the core clocks to 862.

Cool, I'll give it a go when I get in from work.

Is it the bios file download from the mod page? "the PLL fix bios(named RV670 XT.BIN)" this one??

Dr. Spankenstein
01-16-2008, 04:19 AM
It's in the first post on the link I gave you!;)

trog100
01-16-2008, 04:23 AM
it wont be gaming stable up there past the 862 mark.. even if u think it is.. it needs a volt mod for that..

trog

gerrynicol
01-16-2008, 04:55 AM
It's in the first post on the link I gave you!;)

Dunno how I missed that :o Cheers.

I will give it a go, I'll post when/ if I get results. Oh I take it winflash will be ok:confused:, Like I said the last time I flashed a card was a while ago:o

Random Murderer
01-16-2008, 04:58 AM
Dunno how I missed that :o Cheers.

I will give it a go, I'll post when/ if I get results. Oh I take it winflash will be ok:confused:, Like I said the last time I flashed a card was a while ago:o

Just use the .zip file I included in the first post...

gerrynicol
01-16-2008, 05:00 AM
Just use the .zip file I included in the first post...

Sent that one home as well. Cheers:toast:

gerrynicol
01-16-2008, 04:34 PM
:banghead::banghead: oh man what an hour :(. I installed the new bios, everything went ok, benched at 880/ 1387 went ok, rebooted to put the proc speed up, booted back into windows........corrupt files:wtf::wtf:. I eventually managed to get the display driver uninstalled then booted fine. I don't want to go through that again lol. thought I was gonna have to do a reinstall:(.

I will muck about abit more though see what the card can do now :)

asb2106
01-16-2008, 07:36 PM
Well i pushed farther and this is the fastest I can get to. Im really pushing for that 14100, but I think I might need some V Mods for that to work :(.

Well D0s, looks like you still got me... but im still trying :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080116/14030.jpg

freaksavior
01-16-2008, 08:58 PM
is anybody running x38?

unsmart
01-16-2008, 09:03 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080116/Capture006127.jpg

OK internet is finally back,f'en NEX3:mad:
Raised Vmod to 1.3v and upped my FSB with the help of roll off voltage from my pci-e slot. I'll be getting a new MOBO in a few days so anyone want a MSI 975X cheap?

InPaniC
01-16-2008, 10:12 PM
is anybody running x38?

Me :). I tested P35 and X38 with CF and if u want CF, please dont use a P35, its terrible! Problems with 2d/3d switch with the 2nd card, bad performance and so on.

d0s
01-17-2008, 01:37 AM
Well i pushed farther and this is the fastest I can get to. Im really pushing for that 14100, but I think I might need some V Mods for that to work :(.

Well D0s, looks like you still got me... but im still trying :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080116/14030.jpg

Hehe, you'll over take me I'm sure of it! Just squeeze some more out of your CPU and it should push you to that 14100 mark :).

asb2106
01-17-2008, 02:15 AM
Hehe, you'll over take me I'm sure of it! Just squeeze some more out of your CPU and it should push you to that 14100 mark :).


got it with a hair more on the GPU mem.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080116/14113.jpg

reverze
01-17-2008, 02:49 PM
Hmm.. just switched over from Vista to XP..

was expecting a few hundred more points but only got like 30

tigger
01-17-2008, 02:56 PM
heres my best upto now,i forgot to grap the screenie of gpu-z :(.It was at 840mhz core and 999mhz mem tho',same cpu speed as the others.I have taken the vmod off while i refine it a bit.


http://img.techpowerup.org/080117/840.jpg

EDIT-i did a validation at 840mhz,so here it is.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/dee3a/

Dr. Spankenstein
01-17-2008, 03:08 PM
:banghead::banghead: oh man what an hour :(. I installed the new bios, everything went ok, benched at 880/ 1387 went ok, rebooted to put the proc speed up, booted back into windows........corrupt files:wtf::wtf:. I eventually managed to get the display driver uninstalled then booted fine. I don't want to go through that again lol. thought I was gonna have to do a reinstall:(.

I will muck about abit more though see what the card can do now :)

Were you using any fan control? Running the core @ 880 for a bench would require the fans to be a little more "active" than they re curenly progammed.:rolleyes:

gerrynicol
01-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Were you using any fan control? Running the core @ 880 for a bench would require the fans to be a little more "active" than they re curenly progammed.:rolleyes:

I have an hr03gt with a 120 fan on it, the temps @860 never go above 52c

tigger
01-17-2008, 03:53 PM
Mine was max 54c on my 3850 with core at 840/1.36v running 3d06.

freaksavior
01-17-2008, 03:56 PM
i'll update this later today when i get more time. ;)

TooFast
01-17-2008, 05:11 PM
10586 core 870 mem 2600

asb2106
01-17-2008, 05:13 PM
10586 core 870 mem 2600

got any screen shots you can share??

asb2106
01-17-2008, 07:18 PM
Well ive improved this score with

E6300@3570 + HD3850-256MB@796.5/999 = 11119 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4748043)

Its not much of an improvement considering the overclock, but its also on Vista compared to the original score on XP. Its around a 100-200 point hit from XP to Vista. Once i get my pencil mod done, expect scores around ~12k.

Well Ive noticed that the difference is closer to 200-300, I personally have a difference of over 300

freaksavior
01-17-2008, 08:20 PM
10586 core 870 mem 2600

without some proof, i can use this a valid score. sorry man :shadedshu

freaksavior
01-17-2008, 08:27 PM
updated

Random Murderer
01-17-2008, 09:03 PM
Crossfire

*1* InPaniC - Q6600 @ 3.9ghz Core 864 Mem 1296 3dmark 20346

*2* Blacklash - Q6600 @ 3.5ghz 3850 @760 Core 1029 Mem 3dmark 17050

*3* Bytor - Athlon X2 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1377 Mem 3dmark 13752

Quad core

*2* abs2106 - q6600 @ 3.6ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1413 Mem 3dmark 14113

*1*d0s - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1296 Mem 3dmark 14080

*3* The Haunted - Q6600 3.6ghk3870 @ 877 Core 1287 Mem 3dmark 13654

*4* uber_cookie -Q6600 3.6gh 3870 @ 877 Core 1305 Mem 3dmark 13781

*5* Random Murderer - Q6600 @ 3ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1296 Mem 3dmark 13146

*6* ToeMoss - Q6600 @ 2.4ghz 3870 @ 796 Core 1197 Mem 3dmark 11368


21345?

freaksavior
01-17-2008, 09:44 PM
??? what are you talking about?

Random Murderer
01-17-2008, 09:47 PM
??? what are you talking about?

the quad core rankings
2
1
3
4
5
6

asb2106
01-17-2008, 10:06 PM
updated

Thank you!!


Thanks for updating the name!!
FYI, I dont know how much this matters to everyone here but my CPU was running at 3.78, GPU 891core/1423mem

The Haunted
01-18-2008, 04:56 AM
Score needed an update :rolleyes:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080117/3dmark985.jpg

asb2106
01-18-2008, 05:06 AM
Score needed an update :rolleyes:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080117/3dmark985.jpg

Holy Hell!@

How did you get your GPU Core to run that high?????


Please share I am very interested, I topped out at 904

Wile E
01-18-2008, 05:08 AM
Holy Hell!@

How did you get your GPU Core to run that high?????


Please share I am very interested, I topped out at 904My guess is a volt mod.

asb2106
01-18-2008, 05:13 AM
My guess is a volt mod.

yah im thinkin the same thing, and thats really impressive! Ive seen alot of volt mods that are only getting to 900, 914 sometimes

The Haunted
01-18-2008, 05:19 AM
A pencil mod, i will try to hardmod the card soon. Need to learn how to solder such small parts without a disaster happening...:slap:

asb2106
01-18-2008, 05:22 AM
A pencil mod, i will try to hardmod the card soon. Need to learn how to solder such small parts without a disaster happening...:slap:

wow thats awesome, did you actually test with a volt meter or did you just shade it??

The Haunted
01-18-2008, 10:30 PM
You just shade the resistor until you can read the desired resistance and then boot to mesure
the voltage. Then use the vcore that fit your needs;)

fafa21
01-18-2008, 11:16 PM
here is my 3d mark score with my brand new comp

trog100
01-18-2008, 11:50 PM
haunted is useing a smidge over 1.5 volts.. i have had mine up way over 2.5 volts with a pencil so 1.5 should be easy.. he he he

the skies the limit.. if u have the cooling..

mind u i didnt shade the resistor.. i did the other mod where u shade the back of the pc board between two pins..

trog

asb2106
01-19-2008, 12:10 AM
haunted is useing a smidge over 1.5 volts.. i have had mine up way over 2.5 volts with a pencil so 1.5 should be easy.. he he he

the skies the limit.. if u have the cooling..

mind u i didnt shade the resistor.. i did the other mod where u shade the back of the pc board between two pins..

trog

shade the board between two pins??

Is that all you had to do? and I dont have a multimeter, is there any "safe" amount of lead to apply that will give me good results. I have plenty of cooling, my GPU has never seen 40c

sneekypeet
01-19-2008, 12:22 AM
shade the board between two pins??

Is that all you had to do? and I dont have a multimeter, is there any "safe" amount of lead to apply that will give me good results. I have plenty of cooling, my GPU has never seen 40c

let me say this....attempting a Volt Mod with no DMM is not a recommended way to go about it. A DMM is a must , how else are you going to know what you have done, if anything?

trog100
01-19-2008, 12:45 AM
u need the volt meter.. if u do it the way i did slightly roughen the area between the pins.. sharp metal instrument of some kind.. a few light pencil stokes overvolts very easy.. u volt test as soon as the card boots.. switch it off if u have too much..

its fiddly and hit and miss.. but a few tries should get u there.. a small stiff paint brush gets rid of too much lead..

roughening the surface u want to pencil on is the secret.. so is the type of pencil u use.. i used an old HB 2 one..

trog

jpierce55
01-19-2008, 01:07 AM
Finally guys, this mobo still does not support more than stock voltage on the Phenom, but the 3dmark scores are up.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4772347

PashaM
01-19-2008, 01:38 AM
This is my results

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6499/3dmark12334ha2.jpg

unsmart
01-19-2008, 03:09 PM
:eek: dam ghost nice OC on that 6300, is that on air with the arctic freezer 7 you have listed in your specs? What are your temps and Vcore?
I just ordered a MSI P35 board and was hoping for 3.4gh but you got my hopes a little higher now. From what I've read my new board will do 510 FSB so I possibly could hit the same speed:)

ghost101
01-19-2008, 04:29 PM
:eek: dam ghost nice OC on that 6300, is that on air with the arctic freezer 7 you have listed in your specs? What are your temps and Vcore?
I just ordered a MSI P35 board and was hoping for 3.4gh but you got my hopes a little higher now. From what I've read my new board will do 510 FSB so I possibly could hit the same speed:)

Yeh its the AF7. Temps arent the problem, i have to hit 1.6v in BIOS (~1.53v real) to get 3.57 stable. My e6300 isnt a particularly good clocker. I would run it at 3.5ghz, 1.5v in the BIOS, 1.44v real, but power consumption does rise a bit too much for minimal performance gain and electricity costs too much.

asb2106
01-19-2008, 04:58 PM
u need the volt meter.. if u do it the way i did slightly roughen the area between the pins.. sharp metal instrument of some kind.. a few light pencil stokes overvolts very easy.. u volt test as soon as the card boots.. switch it off if u have too much..

its fiddly and hit and miss.. but a few tries should get u there.. a small stiff paint brush gets rid of too much lead..

roughening the surface u want to pencil on is the secret.. so is the type of pencil u use.. i used an old HB 2 one..

trog

thanks, Im gonna pic up a multimeter today and work on that, whats a safe voltage to shoot for, about 1.5 , 1.6 volts?
what resistance do I want to be at? or do you just detect voltage directly?

freaksavior
01-19-2008, 06:02 PM
updated and added people.

edit:

wow, im surprised at how much this thread actually took off. 20 pages. :D

If you appreciate what i've done, hit the thanks in my first post :)

jamupnorth
01-19-2008, 07:41 PM
735/950 with ccc.

The Haunted
01-19-2008, 09:00 PM
:D A little suicide run
http://img.techpowerup.org/080119/14567.jpg

asb2106
01-19-2008, 09:07 PM
:D A little suicide run


man your just on a mission to kill my score and make it really really hard for me to top arent you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: jk :)

oh and congrats on that score : WOW :respect:

Hey, be sure to put that score over here too --> http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995

maybe you can beat out the 2900's that have the records there!

The Haunted
01-19-2008, 09:23 PM
Im pretty sure you can beat this;) Thats some nice q6600 clocks you got there,
i cant be stable for more than 10 min at 3.7ghz...(prime95) That vga cooler can get you very far, all you need is a dmm and a pencil :rockout:

asb2106
01-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Im pretty sure you can beat this;) Thats some nice q6600 clocks you got there,
i cant be stable for more than 10 min at 3.7ghz...(prime95) That vga cooler can get you very far, all you need is a dmm and a pencil :rockout:

Thats gonna be my project for the next few days, just sucks that I might have to pull my water cooling apart to get in there

The Haunted
01-19-2008, 09:30 PM
You dont need to remove the card to pencil mod. Just remove it from the slot,
it shoud hold itself in the case by the monitor conector, get a good light and start digging those volts!

PashaM
01-19-2008, 11:17 PM
This is to Haunted and asb2106: Im looking at your CPU-Z pics and wondering why is it when i OC my q6600 to 3.6 it shows different numbers then yours. When i run my Quad at stock speed this is what i get:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6378/cpustockbo0.jpg

See the multi at 6, supposed to be 9, Core Speed is at 1603Mhz when supposed to be 2.4... Now if i reboot it does show that im at 2.4

This is when i OC:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4689/cpu36ik7.jpg

see the FSB is same as yours at ~ 400Mhz but core is at 2399, not at actual 3.6Ghz. Durring POST i show its at 3.6 as it should be. Any idea?

Dr. Spankenstein
01-19-2008, 11:47 PM
You are seeing Intel Speedstep (lowers clocks and voltage) and EIST (changes multiplier) in action. While your CPU-Z is open, run a 3d app and watch how it reacts.

It's a powersaving feature that there are many ways of disabling, if you so desire.

PashaM
01-20-2008, 01:42 AM
ok, i see, makes sense

asb2106
01-20-2008, 05:06 AM
This is to Haunted and asb2106: Im looking at your CPU-Z pics and wondering why is it when i OC my q6600 to 3.6 it shows different numbers then yours. When i run my Quad at stock speed this is what i get:
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6378/cpustockbo0.jpg

See the multi at 6, supposed to be 9, Core Speed is at 1603Mhz when supposed to be 2.4... Now if i reboot it does show that im at 2.4

This is when i OC:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4689/cpu36ik7.jpg

see the FSB is same as yours at ~ 400Mhz but core is at 2399, not at actual 3.6Ghz. Durring POST i show its at 3.6 as it should be. Any idea?

sorry i wasnt here to answer that for you but it seems like it has already been answered, I always disable speedstep and lock my multiplier, but if your computer remains stable with speedstep enabled I would just recommend leaving it, there isnt much wrong with it

gebby44
01-20-2008, 05:45 AM
Hey guys,

I just completed my first build and was wondering if this was good for my card/setup. I just downloaded the free 3dmark06 from their website and ran it with the stock tests. I'm new to all this and mostly use this as a HTPC with only light gaming. I can't take screen shots right now but I speak truthfully. Any help with how I can make this better would be much appreciated.

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 11556 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4478 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 4944 Marks
CPU Score 4180 Marks

Setup:

Q6600 @ 2.7GHz w/AC Freezer 7
4GB Patriot ddr2 800 (linked at 3:2)
XFX 680i lt
HIS 3850 IceQ Turbo @ 760core/1000mem
3 x 500 Samsung
Rosewill 550 watt
XP MCE 2005

asb2106
01-20-2008, 05:49 AM
Hey guys,

I just completed my first build and was wondering if this was good for my card/setup. I just downloaded the free 3dmark06 from their website and ran it with the stock tests. I'm new to all this and mostly use this as a HTPC with only light gaming. I can't take screen shots right now but I speak truthfully. Any help with how I can make this better would be much appreciated.

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 11556 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4478 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 4944 Marks
CPU Score 4180 Marks

Setup:

Q6600 @ 2.7GHz w/AC Freezer 7
4GB Patriot ddr2 800 (linked at 3:2)
XFX 680i lt
HIS 3850 IceQ Turbo @ 760core/1000mem
3 x 500 Samsung
Rosewill 550 watt
XP MCE 2005

For the hardware that is right were it should be, and those are good numbers
You could play any game you wanted, granted you will have to lower the quality on alot of the new ones but hell, so do most of us!!!!

Just a question, with a q6600 and a 3850, why did you go Nvidia chipset?? Do you have plans to go SLI??

OOHh and anyone can take screenshots, just do a print screen and paste it into MS paint

Blacklash
01-20-2008, 07:05 AM
I'll have some HD 3870 X2 results for you all...


when they are released. :p

I am watching for 'em.

BTW if you get a HD 3850 that is limited to a 730 core clock in Overdrive it's because it has a rev 2 BIOS installed. Go to MVK Tech.net and grab a rev 1 version from ATi, Sapphire or Powercolor.

http://www.mvktech.net/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,selectfolder/cat,1/

I flashed one into both my cards because they had rev 2. Now I have 770|1117 max vs 730|1010 before. Both my cards do 760|2038 without issues. I am glad I changed the BIOS.

unsmart
01-20-2008, 12:18 PM
Thanks ghost, I'll try for 3.6 anyway and just change some light bulbs from 100w to 60w:laugh:
I was thinking of selling my 6300 and going with a Allendale for the higher multi and some cash in my pocket. I still might even though it's a step down really, it might come out ahead with the higher clocks though.

gebby44
01-20-2008, 07:01 PM
For the hardware that is right were it should be, and those are good numbers
You could play any game you wanted, granted you will have to lower the quality on alot of the new ones but hell, so do most of us!!!!

Just a question, with a q6600 and a 3850, why did you go Nvidia chipset?? Do you have plans to go SLI??

OOHh and anyone can take screenshots, just do a print screen and paste it into MS paint

The only reason I have this 680i board right now is due to DOA board problems. This XFX 680i board belongs to a friend that wasn't using it. I'm in the market right now for an x38 or p35 board. Any recommendations? I want it to have crossfire support just in case I decide to go that route in the future. For now, this 680i works fine without any problems but I'm always looking to change.

Also, I'm just not big on the AC freezer 7. The lack of copper heatsink really makes me wonder what I could achieve with one of the Zalman ones or typhoon. Would upgrading the heatsink/fan to either of these help me see much difference in overclocking? I forgot to mention that I also do some video editing so this stuff may help? Thanks for any help.

asb2106
01-20-2008, 07:43 PM
The only reason I have this 680i board right now is due to DOA board problems. This XFX 680i board belongs to a friend that wasn't using it. I'm in the market right now for an x38 or p35 board. Any recommendations? I want it to have crossfire support just in case I decide to go that route in the future. For now, this 680i works fine without any problems but I'm always looking to change.

Also, I'm just not big on the AC freezer 7. The lack of copper heatsink really makes me wonder what I could achieve with one of the Zalman ones or typhoon. Would upgrading the heatsink/fan to either of these help me see much difference in overclocking? I forgot to mention that I also do some video editing so this stuff may help? Thanks for any help.

Well I made the switch to water about a year ago, and I never looked back, but before I had my water setup I used a Zalman 9500, I really liked it, it kept my Pentium D around 50c under load, which is impressive because those Pentium D's got really really hot. And it was OC'ed to 4.0 Ghz. So with a C2D or C2Q I would imagine your temps would be great with a zalman.

Im in the middle of buying a mobo right now, and Im also going x38. For Xfire support I highly recommend the x38 because you get a full 16x on each PCIe. And I am very particular to ASUS mobos, so Im going with the ASUS Maximus Formula, but I have heard great things about the Gigabyte DQ6, from what Ive read the boards look to be almost identically matched, so it comes down to what you like.

For the cooling you might even want to look into a small water system. I started with the swiftech 220 system and I really like it, the MCP655 pump is GREAT, the apachee GT is a very good CPU block(the apachee GTX is a bit better on a 1/2" system), and I have swiftech MCP30 blocks for my NB & SB and I have a EK Full cover block for the GPU. I recommend the water because it allows you to push your proc as far as you want with out worrying about temps. I can run my CPU @ 1.7 volts and my temps still dont get above 46 @ 100% load.

Oh the most imprtant part, the radiator, I have a MCP320, and a MCP220

Check out the pics...
http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/newpicswresults.htm

fafa21
01-20-2008, 07:47 PM
hey i just overcloked some more and got a new score of 12134 http://img.techpowerup.org/080120/untitled380.jpg

freaksavior
01-20-2008, 08:15 PM
Hey guys,

I just completed my first build and was wondering if this was good for my card/setup. I just downloaded the free 3dmark06 from their website and ran it with the stock tests. I'm new to all this and mostly use this as a HTPC with only light gaming. I can't take screen shots right now but I speak truthfully. Any help with how I can make this better would be much appreciated.

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 11556 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4478 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 4944 Marks
CPU Score 4180 Marks

Setup:

Q6600 @ 2.7GHz w/AC Freezer 7
4GB Patriot ddr2 800 (linked at 3:2)
XFX 680i lt
HIS 3850 IceQ Turbo @ 760core/1000mem
3 x 500 Samsung
Rosewill 550 watt
XP MCE 2005


post a screen shot and i'll add you to the list

freaksavior
01-20-2008, 08:19 PM
i just put a vf900 on my 3870 and stock core/mem my idel is 46c. does that sound about right? i was reading that a lot of people were getting lik 38-40c idle and 45-50 load.

gebby44
01-20-2008, 10:00 PM
post a screen shot and i'll add you to the list


here is the screen shot

attached

fafa21
01-20-2008, 11:00 PM
i just put a vf900 on my 3870 and stock core/mem my idel is 46c. does that sound about right? i was reading that a lot of people were getting lik 38-40c idle and 45-50 load.

idk i get 26-30 on idel with my powercolor cooler and 40-45 playing crysis

freaksavior
01-20-2008, 11:23 PM
your using stock? if so is your fan at 100%?

i'm starting to think i wasited $38

fafa21
01-21-2008, 12:02 AM
im using this and it's running at stock speed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131077 but i don’t think stock runs 100% but it dos not make a lot of noise. i also think it depends on what kind of cooling you have in your case i have an antec 900 and all my fans are on medium.

freaksavior
01-21-2008, 12:05 AM
i have 11 x 120mm fans :wtf:

asb2106
01-21-2008, 12:19 AM
i have 11 x 120mm fans :wtf:

sounds like it would be loud

freaksavior
01-21-2008, 01:27 AM
eh, its not bad.

it gets bad when one rattles though. bugs the crap out of me.

i need to re-do my case though, i got 4 cathodes and the wires look like utter crap.

kenkickr
01-21-2008, 03:15 AM
How do I post my snipy