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trog100
03-12-2008, 12:58 AM
I dont know, your score is awesome! I am just confused at how high it is in comparison to other systems here. You can go down the list and compare results to the systems that produced them, but yours definitely does not fit the norm.

Ill talk it over with the OP and see what we think, but honestly, you get a old CRT, and run 12x10, then it cant be argued! Id love to see that, but taking over 1rst with these circumstances is tough to swallow, i really think we will get alot of guff for that.

correct decision dude.. if i stands out from the norm be wary.. especially if its higher than the norm.. he he he

trog

fafa21
03-12-2008, 02:08 AM
here is an update on mine also im using xp

http://img.techpowerup.org/080311/3d mark283.jpg

asb2106
03-12-2008, 02:09 AM
ill either update tonight or first thing in the morning

kup
03-12-2008, 02:14 AM
Doh...stupid gimpy fingers...

kup
03-12-2008, 02:47 AM
I believe this should suffice...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4525/162092k61280x1024ng0.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162092k61280x1024ng0.jpg)

And the ORB link... "| Q6600 @ 3.7GHz (9x463) | GeCube 3870 X-Turbo III @ 945/1305(2610) (HIS .75 Bios) | 2GB XMS2 6400C4 DHX @ 926MHz 4-4-4-12 |" (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701490)

asb2106
03-12-2008, 02:53 AM
I believe this should suffice...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4525/162092k61280x1024ng0.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162092k61280x1024ng0.jpg)

And the ORB link... "| Q6600 @ 3.7GHz (9x463) | GeCube 3870 X-Turbo III @ 945/1305(2610) (HIS .75 Bios) | 2GB XMS2 6400C4 DHX @ 926MHz 4-4-4-12 |" (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701490)

yes it does, congrats on first place. Im still in shock that your scores are so high with those clocks, can you please share your tips???? It seems you have some magic going on!!!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 02:54 AM
I believe this should suffice...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4525/162092k61280x1024ng0.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162092k61280x1024ng0.jpg)

And the ORB link... "| Q6600 @ 3.7GHz (9x463) | GeCube 3870 X-Turbo III @ 945/1305(2610) (HIS .75 Bios) | 2GB XMS2 6400C4 DHX @ 926MHz 4-4-4-12 |" (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701490)

wait wait wait wait, where did you get a rampage formula from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????? I have been waiting waiting for this forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 02:55 AM
Awesome score! That's good for 1st in Single 3870 Quad core!

..5714 CPU marks doesn't hurt things, either. Way to clock that Q!:toast:

asb2106
03-12-2008, 02:57 AM
I believe this should suffice...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4525/162092k61280x1024ng0.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=162092k61280x1024ng0.jpg)

And the ORB link... "| Q6600 @ 3.7GHz (9x463) | GeCube 3870 X-Turbo III @ 945/1305(2610) (HIS .75 Bios) | 2GB XMS2 6400C4 DHX @ 926MHz 4-4-4-12 |" (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701490)

and wow! that HDr score is out of the roof, hell its as high as the X2, please share what you are doing!

ThatGuy16
03-12-2008, 02:59 AM
wait wait wait wait, where did you get a rampage formula from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????? I have been waiting waiting for this forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Were did he get a rampage :wtf: (or are you the guy that flashed his bios on a regular x38 to rampage?) :wtf:

I hit 19102 marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5671553) after flashing my other card. Ran at 864/1206 (i think they still have more left without vmods)

I didn't take a screenshot, i'm still tweaking :D

we all know crossfire owns sli...

kup
03-12-2008, 03:15 AM
yes it does, congrats on first place. Im still in shock that your scores are so high with those clocks, can you please share your tips???? It seems you have some magic going on!!!

No tips to give yet, this was an untweaked run. I've not set up my new benching OS. Like I said I'm on a mission for 17.5K before the week is out...

wait wait wait wait, where did you get a rampage formula from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????? I have been waiting waiting for this forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, As mentioned further down or just above, I am indeed a Maximus flasher (Oo-errr!!!) but suffice to say, I'll have myself a Rampage soon enough!

Awesome score! That's good for 1st in Single 3870 Quad core!

..5714 CPU marks doesn't hurt things, either. Way to clock that Q!:toast:

The Quad is good for about 4.2GHz 3D2K6... And did I mention this is an ALL AIR bench? :D :rockout:


and wow! that HDr score is out of the roof, hell its as high as the X2, please share what you are doing!

Haha, magic fingers. I'll see if I can compile any decent tips and post back soon...

Were did he get a rampage :wtf: (or are you the guy that flashed his bios on a regular x38 to rampage?) :wtf:

I hit 19102 marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5671553) after flashing my other card. Ran at 864/1206 (i think they still have more left without vmods)

I didn't take a screenshot, i'm still tweaking :D

we all know crossfire owns sli...

Maximus to Rampage, indeed.

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 03:19 AM
Here is a Comparo (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5351901)to my best CF run with my lowly E6600. If I could get kup's results, I'd be hella happy!:D

ThatGuy16
03-12-2008, 03:26 AM
Maximus to Rampage, indeed.

I knew it! :D

Nice OC on the GPU btw :toast:

kup
03-12-2008, 03:29 AM
I knew it! :D

Nice OC on the GPU btw :toast:

Not done yet, got a 972 run coming through in just a moment... :toast:

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:30 AM
No tips to give yet, this was an untweaked run. I've not set up my new benching OS. Like I said I'm on a mission for 17.5K before the week is out...

Well thats great and all, but there has to be some explanation for those results,
do me a favor and look over the other results here, your numbers don't match, and every other post on here fits the norm. 40+ posters have revealed consistent results with their clocks and then you throw down 7500 on the HDR. something is special there



Haha, As mentioned further down or just above, I am indeed a Maximus flasher (Oo-errr!!!) but suffice to say, I'll have myself a Rampage soon enough!
you and me both



The Quad is good for about 4.2GHz 3D2K6... And did I mention this is an ALL AIR bench? :D :rockout:
and do you credit this to your x38?? Because my 965 is pissing me off. My quad gets stuck at 3.8, and I have an elaborate water system keeping 24/7 3.8 ghz clocks under 45 C


Maximus to Rampage, indeed.
I might end up having to get the maximus, I am buying a mobo very soon, I want it to be the rampage, but I have been waiting too long! I thought it was supposed to be a Feb, 18 release????

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:30 AM
Not done yet, got a 972 run coming through in just a moment... :toast:

are you using a hardmod or pencil??

Nitro-Max
03-12-2008, 03:31 AM
Well im just checking in to see how things are going lol.
Thought someone might have beaten me by now with the new 8.3 drivers out with quad 3870x2 support. Plus the new intel quads.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:34 AM
Well im just checking in to see how things are going lol.
Thought someone might have beaten me by now with the new 8.3 drivers out with quad 3870x2 support. Plus the new intel quads.

your still top dog! And you prob will be for a while, you really rocked it x2 there!

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 03:39 AM
This probably doesn't hurt:

Disable Post-Processing. The Disable post-processing checkbox disables full frame post-process effects in all graphics tests. The post-processing in the SM2.0 tests does bloom filtering that is done by rendering every frame to a texture and modifying the frame using a pixel shader. The bloom filter is a cinematic effect that makes bright surfaces appears over bright. The bright surface not only gets brighter discarding any details too small to be visible in the intense reflection, the light also partly spills over darker areas in the frame surrounding the bright surface.
The HDR/SM3.0 graphics tests use a much more advanced post-processing bloom effect, where the scene is rendered to a texture and progressively halved downscaled versions of that is generated (a bit like mip-maps). Each of these sub-frames is blurred using a Gaussian filter of the same pixel size. The final frame is then produced of a weighted sum of those downscaled and blurred frames. We are also using a star shaped glow effect that again uses the progressively halved frame copies for six separate line convolutions, one for each of the 6 streaks in the star. Each line is rendered in 3 passes. The first pass takes 5 samples of the image at the beginning of a line. The second pass takes again 5 samples from the output of the first pass, spaced five pixels apart. Finally the third pass takes yet again 5 samples from the output of the second pass, spaced 5*5=25 pixels apart. This simulates the six edge shutter of traditional cameras with exposure control. Also a ghost/lens reflection effect is being done. We paste copies of this new buffer on the screen, each scaled around the centre of the screen using suitable scaling factors.
In addition the above, the whole image is being processed by tone-mapping in order to get the correct light values for normal displays. Disabling the post-processing from the options disables all the effects mentioned above, and thus does not represent the way the scenes were designed.
In 3DMark06 the post-processing is always on by default. ;)


I didn't buy 3DM06, so I don't have access to this setting. I thought the point of comparing was for everyone to run the DEFAULT settings...

Nitro-Max
03-12-2008, 03:42 AM
I dont mind been beat.

the main thing i wanted to achieve was 4.3ghz and get it stable which i did the 3dmark score was just a bonus while testing its speed/preformance. When the x2 comes down a bit more in price with the gddr4 release i may purchace another then have another go. :)

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:43 AM
I dont mind been beat.

the main thing i wanted to achieve was 4.3ghz and get it stable which i did the 3dmark score was just a bonus. When the x2 comes down a bit more in price with the gddr4 release i may purchace another then have another go. :)

and that would be amazing! hey I have been meaning to ask, did you do any volt mods on the x2 to get those clocks, or did they just get that high??

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:45 AM
This probably doesn't hurt:

Disable Post-Processing. The Disable post-processing checkbox disables full frame post-process effects in all graphics tests. The post-processing in the SM2.0 tests does bloom filtering that is done by rendering every frame to a texture and modifying the frame using a pixel shader. The bloom filter is a cinematic effect that makes bright surfaces appears over bright. The bright surface not only gets brighter discarding any details too small to be visible in the intense reflection, the light also partly spills over darker areas in the frame surrounding the bright surface.
The HDR/SM3.0 graphics tests use a much more advanced post-processing bloom effect, where the scene is rendered to a texture and progressively halved downscaled versions of that is generated (a bit like mip-maps). Each of these sub-frames is blurred using a Gaussian filter of the same pixel size. The final frame is then produced of a weighted sum of those downscaled and blurred frames. We are also using a star shaped glow effect that again uses the progressively halved frame copies for six separate line convolutions, one for each of the 6 streaks in the star. Each line is rendered in 3 passes. The first pass takes 5 samples of the image at the beginning of a line. The second pass takes again 5 samples from the output of the first pass, spaced five pixels apart. Finally the third pass takes yet again 5 samples from the output of the second pass, spaced 5*5=25 pixels apart. This simulates the six edge shutter of traditional cameras with exposure control. Also a ghost/lens reflection effect is being done. We paste copies of this new buffer on the screen, each scaled around the centre of the screen using suitable scaling factors.
In addition the above, the whole image is being processed by tone-mapping in order to get the correct light values for normal displays. Disabling the post-processing from the options disables all the effects mentioned above, and thus does not represent the way the scenes were designed.
In 3DMark06 the post-processing is always on by default. ;)

meaning that the score is no good. I had a feeling that was the issue, I posted it below. Im sorry but the rules of the thread is that you leave the stock settings - and that included the post processing - thanks DR. SPANKENSTEIN - you da man~!

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 03:47 AM
Thought I'd do it kindly, before trog100 caught a whiff of this!!:laugh:

....which begs the question, do we start to require Orb links like we do in the All-encompassing 3DM06 thread?

Nitro-Max
03-12-2008, 03:51 AM
No m8 no volt mods im not really willing to risk it on a £280 card lol im not 100% sure if it was getting sufficient voltage tbh. the preformance may have come mostly from the cpu clock ive noticed you dont get a real big jump by overclocking the card alone.

kup
03-12-2008, 03:52 AM
meaning that the score is no good. I had a feeling that was the issue, I posted it below. Im sorry but the rules of the thread is that you leave the stock settings - and that included the post processing - thanks DR. SPANKENSTEIN - you da man~!

Ok this was my bad, I didn't realise it wasn't an option in the free version? I've still taken second place and I'll be looking for first soon...

Sorry for the confusion guys. I didn't mean to decieve anyone, just didn't know that wasn't an option in the free version.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701959

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7339/14660xt6.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14660xt6.jpg)

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:52 AM
I didn't buy 3DM06, so I don't have access to this setting. I thought the point of comparing was for everyone to run the DEFAULT settings...

thats the truth, there is really no way around that

Thought I'd do it kindly, before trog100 caught a whiff of this!!:laugh:

....which begs the question, do we start to require Orb links like we do in the All-encompassing 3DM06 thread?

hehe, hey, I think its great we have guys like you and trog that can look out for that stuff - funny, I actually made reference to that earlier today with the first results. Glad it was caught again.

Orb links for confirmation -yes & no

yes - it would be nice for full verification, but at the same time you can really tell when something is off. This isnt really a test for 1rst place, its to get good feedback to help with pruchasing equipment and to help diagnose and fix your system. and I wrong to have faith that others can stick to that?

And honestly - everyone knew that something was up with those results!!!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:53 AM
Ok this was my bad, I didn't realise it wasn't an option in the free version? I've still taken second place and I'll be looking for first soon...

Sorry for the confusion guys. I didn't mean to decieve anyone, just didn't know that wasn't an option in the free version.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701959

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7339/14660xt6.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14660xt6.jpg)

not a prob, and might I add, wow 978 core, damn, now you have beaten me with legit results, congrats

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 03:54 AM
I prefer having a screen shot of the ACTUAL proof.

I have added them from orb results but i don't like them tbh, because they don't show the cards clock.

So i say no, and its my thread so i win :D

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 03:54 AM
There you go! Still an awesome score!

Can't wait for more. Sounds like you can still push it further.

Great clocking, regardless!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:57 AM
Ok this was my bad, I didn't realise it wasn't an option in the free version? I've still taken second place and I'll be looking for first soon...

Sorry for the confusion guys. I didn't mean to decieve anyone, just didn't know that wasn't an option in the free version.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5701959

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7339/14660xt6.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14660xt6.jpg)

hey ?? for yah

On my old GeCube, I could get my ram to 1423 stable, can you get up that high?? Im buying another 3870 really really soon, and I want to go GeCube because my first did so well! But I hate their RMA, in Taiwan with no control over how long it takes, I could get my card back tommorow, or in May, I dont know.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:58 AM
I prefer having a screen shot of the ACTUAL proof.

I have added them from orb results but i don't like them tbh, because they don't show the cards clock.

So i say no, and its my thread so i win :D

hehe, Im thinkin he meant, add the ORB results on top of it, so that it can be verified that all results are legit with those little options. They can be seen in the ORB results

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 04:00 AM
OHHH!!!!!!!! if you want to go to the trouble be my guest

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 04:04 AM
Man, the torch has been Officially passed....

@ asb2106,

You made a good point earlier. Don't take on any more grief than you want! You're doing a great job as it stands!

@ freaksavior,

My comments in no way negate the incredible amount of effort you put into the thread! Thank you.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:04 AM
OHHH!!!!!!!! if you want to go to the trouble be my guest

Yah, doubt it:laugh::laugh:

Oh and Ill have an update done by 9AM Central tommorow, I have a slow morning at work, so Ill work on it then. I have to get to bed!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:06 AM
Man, the torch has been Officially passed....

@ asb2106,

You made a good point earlier. Don't take on any more grief than you want!

I like to be a median party, dont like to take sides. people get mad that way and nobody wins then.

Oh and this is freaks torch, Im just helpin him hold it up!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:08 AM
happy to help wherever I can, i have like 1000 posts, and 200 of them are on this thread. This is one of the first threads I started on here, and this thread is the reason Im still here. Im just happy i can be a part of it

kup
03-12-2008, 04:08 AM
hey ?? for yah

On my old GeCube, I could get my ram to 1423 stable, can you get up that high?? Im buying another 3870 really really soon, and I want to go GeCube because my first did so well! But I hate their RMA, in Taiwan with no control over how long it takes, I could get my card back tommorow, or in May, I dont know.

This should answer your question... :D

14914 Points...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702070

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9693/14914tk1.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14914tk1.jpg)

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:10 AM
This should answer your question... :D

14914 Points...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702070

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9693/14914tk1.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14914tk1.jpg)

and thats about good enough for me to buy the card. Hey did you ever say what kind of voltmod your doing?? and Ill let you scratch away at first place tonight, hopefully when I get up you will have it. Your so close - and I know haunted would be happy to step down, he was rootin me on, I volt moded my GeCube, and I fried it :(. Thats why Im on the side lines lately

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 04:21 AM
Imma gon hafta git my mitts on that HIS BIOS! w00t!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:22 AM
Imma gon hafta git my mitts on that HIS BIOS! w00t!

???

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 04:24 AM
Translation:
Seems like there are some differences in the .075 HIS BIOS that are worth looking into.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:29 AM
Translation:
Seems like there are some differences in the .075 HIS BIOS that are worth looking into.

oh is that the bios Kup is using??? And did he say if he volt moded??

kup
03-12-2008, 04:29 AM
15078 Points...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702210

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8967/15078yw2.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15078yw2.jpg)

And lastly, the HIS bios you are salivating over... :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/98869796/HIS_HD_3870_Turbo_Edition.zip

EDIT: Pencil modded core @ 1.45v right now, no vMem mod as of yet, stock 1.89v. Hard mods coming soon, just waiting for my delivery of new parts...

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:30 AM
15078 Points...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702210

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8967/15078yw2.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15078yw2.jpg)

And lastly, the HIS bios you are salivating over... :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/98869796/HIS_HD_3870_Turbo_Edition.zip

damn, I cannot wait to get my x38/x48, You are eating up the q6600!!!! You will have it on the next run - lets see it!!!@!

DanishDevil
03-12-2008, 04:36 AM
Wow. It seems the Turbo chips do clock a lot better with more voltage than the non-Turbo IceQ3's. I can't even get mine stable over 877.

Dr. Spankenstein
03-12-2008, 04:40 AM
15078 Points...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702210

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8967/15078yw2.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15078yw2.jpg)

And lastly, the HIS bios you are salivating over... :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/98869796/HIS_HD_3870_Turbo_Edition.zip

EDIT: Pencil modded core @ 1.45v right now, no vMem mod as of yet, stock 1.89v. Hard mods coming soon, just waiting for my delivery of new parts...


Thank you for being so forthcomming!:toast:

THAT is the spirit this thread is based in!

I'm eagerly waiting for you to gingerly skip across the 1st place finish line. This is kinda reminiscent of watching Tiger Wood strole to victory...:D

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:44 AM
Thank you for being so forthcomming!:toast:

THAT is the spirit this thread is based in!

I'm eagerly waiting for you to gingerly skip across the 1st place finish line. This is kinda reminiscent of watching Tiger Wood strole to victory...:D

yep!

@KUP??????

Have you done VoltMods, well thats a easy one - what volt mods?? is this beeing done with a bios mod??

kup
03-12-2008, 04:48 AM
yep!

@KUP??????

Have you done VoltMods, well thats a easy one - what volt mods?? is this beeing done with a bios mod??

Only pencil mods at the moment, 1.45v vGPU and stock 1.89v vMem. Hardmods coming when my kit arrives.

Oh, and First Place I believe?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702329

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3306/15137xx7.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15137xx7.jpg)

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:53 AM
Only pencil mods at the moment, 1.45v vGPU and stock 1.89v vMem. Hardmods coming when my kit arrives.

Oh, and First Place I believe?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5702329

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3306/15137xx7.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=15137xx7.jpg)

congrats! you still looking to hit that 17,5??

kup
03-12-2008, 04:57 AM
I'd love to, but I didn't realise the Post Processing tweak was a bad one, so maybe just 16K for now...

I've got about 200MHz more in the CPU and at least another 100MHz in the GPU if I coax it out correctly...

asb2106
03-12-2008, 04:59 AM
I'd love to, but I didn't realise the Post Processing tweak was a bad one, so maybe just 16K for now...

I've got about 200MHz more in the CPU and at least another 100MHz in the GPU if I coax it out correctly...

I remember talking to a few guys about that alittle while back, and they were saying once you hit the 1000 GPU, it takes tons of volts just to go up alittle more. Either way, I wish you luck, Id like to see you hit the 16k. And I bet you can get that q up to 4.3. That would be good for a 16k run 4 sure!

kup
03-12-2008, 05:04 AM
I remember talking to a few guys about that alittle while back, and they were saying once you hit the 1000 GPU, it takes tons of volts just to go up alittle more. Either way, I wish you luck, Id like to see you hit the 16k. And I bet you can get that q up to 4.3. That would be good for a 16k run 4 sure!

Well if I can't do it on air I'll break out the Phase Change and strap that on... :D :eek: :toast:

Thank you for being so forthcomming!:toast:

THAT is the spirit this thread is based in!

I'm eagerly waiting for you to gingerly skip across the 1st place finish line. This is kinda reminiscent of watching Tiger Wood strole to victory...:D

My pleasure. That is the same bios as I use, in the same format as HIS supplied it, with a *.V02 extension but it'll still edit/flash if you look for "All Files" and then open it with the relevant software.

The clocks are 850/1200 I believe, so nice and high. And it doesn't have 2D clocks, but you can, as I did edit these in yourself.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 05:08 AM
Well if I can't do it on air I'll break out the Phase Change and strap that on... :D :eek: :toast:


Now your talking!!!!!!!

Sorry but I really have to get in bed - the wifey has given me an ultimatum that the computer just cannot win

kup
03-12-2008, 05:09 AM
Haha, go go go...

I'm sure I'll have a new score by tomorrow evening! ;)

trog100
03-12-2008, 05:11 AM
if the bench isnt being run at its default resolution the score is invalid.. is it..??

trog

kup
03-12-2008, 05:12 AM
if the bench isnt being run at its default resolution the score is invalid.. is it..??

trog

We've sorted it now. All run @ 1280x1024 and default settings in 2K6. Sorry for the confusion earlier, I was misinformed of the "acceptable tweaks"... :banghead:

trog100
03-12-2008, 05:50 AM
We've sorted it now. All run @ 1280x1024 and default settings in 2K6. Sorry for the confusion earlier, I was misinformed of the "acceptable tweaks"... :banghead:

okay.. just making sure.. :)

trog

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 03:01 PM
updated again thanks to asb2106

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:06 PM
updated again thanks to asb2106

you like that, 9 am on the dot! :laugh::laugh: It was all by suprise to, I just wrapped it up, and I go, hey look, its 9 am. HEHE.

Happy to help freak!


Ohh, and if there are any errors, PM me and let me know, I think it was perfect but i only proofed it twice

kup
03-12-2008, 03:12 PM
Abs, it was 972 core, not 978.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 03:39 PM
Abs, it was 972 core, not 978.

ok, I couldn't see it!! you had it covered with the 3dmark - it was a guess off of what you had said earlier

Ill get it updated soon

Nitro-Max
03-12-2008, 07:17 PM
I still would like to see some Q9650 overclocks and x2 scores in here.

kylew
03-12-2008, 08:33 PM
Managed to wring a bit more outta my system. 19703 (http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5711900&resultType=14) :D Something seems a bit off though, compared to kup's score (CPU score) there's 45Mhz between our CPUs, yet that translates into over 500 points difference? I wonder what's going on.

Nitro-Max
03-12-2008, 08:36 PM
tbh he could run that test again with the same settings and loose 100 points or make 100 points here and there results can differ each time its ran look at me i was 5 points off 24k DOH!!!!.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 08:51 PM
Managed to wring a bit more outta my system. 19703 (http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5711900&resultType=14) :D Something seems a bit off though, compared to kup's score (CPU score) there's 45Mhz between our CPUs, yet that translates into over 500 points difference? I wonder what's going on.

yah i dont know why that may be.....

I hope there are no options allowing you to mess with the functions of the CPU!!!!!!

I have seen my CPU score drop if I have to much voltage, or not enough voltage, its really picky

asb2106
03-12-2008, 08:52 PM
Managed to wring a bit more outta my system. 19703 (http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5711900&resultType=14) :D Something seems a bit off though, compared to kup's score (CPU score) there's 45Mhz between our CPUs, yet that translates into over 500 points difference? I wonder what's going on.

compare your score to others also, let me know what you see.

kup
03-12-2008, 09:10 PM
yah i dont know why that may be.....

I hope there are no options allowing you to mess with the functions of the CPU!!!!!!

I have seen my CPU score drop if I have to much voltage, or not enough voltage, its really picky

Vista and x64 would be the key differences here. Possibly ram timings too?

EDIT: Could we get a proper compare link so we can compare to our own scores?

kylew
03-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Vista and x64 would be the key differences here. Possibly ram timings too?

EDIT: Could we get a proper compare link so we can compare to our own scores?

What're your ram timings?

kup
03-12-2008, 09:31 PM
4-4-4-12 with very tight performance level settings.

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 10:10 PM
tomorrow asb2106, i get crossfire, and friday, i am getting a q6600

King Wookie
03-12-2008, 10:18 PM
Well, after an afternoon of virgin overclocking, here's my score:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

Still need to play some more, but desperately need faster ram.:banghead:

EDIT: Someone pls enlighten this Noob as to how I upload my screenie!

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 10:19 PM
Well, after an afternoon of virgin overclocking, here's my score:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

Still need to play some more, but desperately need faster ram.:banghead:

Could you post a screenie with cpu-z and gpu-z please. it makes it easier for all of us and proves your not lying. lol

King Wookie
03-12-2008, 10:26 PM
Could you post a screenie with cpu-z and gpu-z please. it makes it easier for all of us and proves your not lying. lol

I'd love to, but believe it or not, I've never done it before.
Currently sitting with a bitmap that needs resizing.
Pls enlighten.

kylew
03-12-2008, 10:43 PM
4-4-4-12 with very tight performance level settings.

Odd, my ram's at the same timings. :confused:

asb2106
03-12-2008, 10:44 PM
Vista and x64 would be the key differences here. Possibly ram timings too?

EDIT: Could we get a proper compare link so we can compare to our own scores?

good call on vista!

asb2106
03-12-2008, 10:46 PM
tomorrow asb2106, i get crossfire, and friday, i am getting a q6600 i think :)

nice!!!! Im really excited for yah! Man thats gonna be a sweet rig!!

freaksavior
03-12-2008, 10:47 PM
I'd love to, but believe it or not, I've never done it before.
Currently sitting with a bitmap that needs resizing.
Pls enlighten.

hit print scrn (its next to F12)

go to paint hit crt+v and save. upload here http://www.techpowerup.org/

asb2106
03-12-2008, 10:48 PM
Well, after an afternoon of virgin overclocking, here's my score:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

Still need to play some more, but desperately need faster ram.:banghead:

EDIT: Someone pls enlighten this Noob as to how I upload my screenie!

ok, how to make a screenie

1. start off with what you want to look at
2. hit print screen on your keyboard
3. open paint, paste the image into paint
4. crop anything off that you dont want
5. save the doc as a jpg
6. then go to techpowerup.org
7. upload your image there
8. copy the provided link and paste it in your post!!

Good luck, look forward to your post

asb2106
03-12-2008, 10:51 PM
Odd, my ram's at the same timings. :confused:

I dont know why i didnt think about this before - i guess im an idiot!

The difference between Vista and XP is all in the CPU score. I actually did lots of tests on this about 2 months ago. A vista result will give about 500 less on the CPU. For me it was perfectly consistant.

kup
03-12-2008, 10:58 PM
I dont know why i didnt think about this before - i guess im an idiot!

The difference between Vista and XP is all in the CPU score. I actually did lots of tests on this about 2 months ago. A vista result will give about 500 less on the CPU. For me it was perfectly consistant.

I too know Vista to fall on the CPU Test, and especially the x64 versions.

No new scores yet but I've been tweaking this Maximus Rampage (:D) and I've got a lot more performance out of it, expect some more post-midnight scores again! :toast:

kup
03-12-2008, 10:59 PM
Thx guys.:toast:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/screen shot.jpg

Fixed. You need a "%20" without the quotes instead of a space.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/screen%20shot.jpg

King Wookie
03-12-2008, 11:01 PM
Thx guys.:toast:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/screen%20shot.jpg

asb2106
03-12-2008, 11:01 PM
I too know Vista to fall on the CPU Test, and especially the x64 versions.

No new scores yet but I've been tweaking this Maximus Rampage (:D) and I've got a lot more performance out of it, expect some more post-midnight scores again! :toast:

ill get some coffee and be ready for yah then!

mnm222876
03-12-2008, 11:01 PM
Running all stock speeds, the HD 3850 AGP got me 8229.

Kinda sad...

I should really build a new system...

asb2106
03-12-2008, 11:06 PM
Thx guys.:toast:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5713597

http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/screen%20shot.jpg

if you put the pic link like this,
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/Untitled816.jpg

King Wookie
03-12-2008, 11:06 PM
3850 AGP got me 8229

Kinda sad...

I was getting 6840 on my old opty 165 with a pci-e 3850, so your score looks good in comparison. All stock though.

asb2106
03-12-2008, 11:26 PM
ok, so the poll says that 7 people have an x2 crossfire system. if I had a x2 crossfire system, I would be jumping for joy for that I had an x2 xfire system, and I would post numbers as soon as possible!!!!! I like the idea of the pole, but people will click on anything, Id say its best not there.

The Haunted
03-12-2008, 11:39 PM
15314 :toast: hd3870 1080 core 1323 mem 1.75 vcore
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/15314mark.jpg

asb2106
03-12-2008, 11:40 PM
15314 :toast: hd3870 1080 core 1323 mem 1.75 vcore
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/15314mark.jpg

you have just been hanging on to this incase someone beat you havent you!:laugh::laugh:

Thats awesome - looks light we might see a battle of the modded 3870's!

The Haunted
03-12-2008, 11:52 PM
This is my last score, it is impossible for me to go higher...
I got an average q6600 that is not stable in 3dmark over 3.8ghz 1:1,
and my 3870 have reached its limit at 1.75volt.

( I could use that post processing trick but that is cheating,
Tried it and got 200 more frames in GT1 before crashing in GT2)
Tired of waiting, i want to see asb kick some ass with a brand new volt modded 3870 :slap:

kup
03-13-2008, 12:01 AM
This is my last score, it is impossible for me to go higher...
I got an average q6600 that is not stable in 3dmark over 3.8ghz 1:1,
and my 3870 have reached its limit at 1.75volt.

I have to ask because of the hassle I had with the 8.3 Cats on XP, how have you got them to perform so well? I lost the best part of 3K on the 8.3 Cats?

Also, I'm sure it's here somewhere but what kind of cooling are you running on that 3870?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 12:02 AM
This is my last score, it is impossible for me to go higher...
I got an average q6600 that is not stable in 3dmark over 3.8ghz 1:1,
and my 3870 have reached its limit at 1.75volt.

( I could use that post processing trick but that is cheating,
Tried it and got 200 more frames in GT1 before crashing in GT2)
Tired of waiting, i want to see asb kick some ass with a brand new volt modded 3870 :slap:

soon enough my friend. The taxes have been filed. The parts are coming soon. and I will be breaking out the solder pretty quickly. Although I am alittle worried about frying a second card :(

The Haunted
03-13-2008, 12:53 AM
I have to ask because of the hassle I had with the 8.3 Cats on XP, how have you got them to perform so well? I lost the best part of 3K on the 8.3 Cats?

Also, I'm sure it's here somewhere but what kind of cooling are you running on that 3870?

I never had problems with catalyst drivers, maybe because i disable CCC and use rivatuner ;)
And for cooling i use a d-tek fusion gpu water block and the stock ram heatsink that i glued with epoxy
(before realising its a gdam aluminium piece of S&*%):banghead:

The Haunted
03-13-2008, 12:55 AM
soon enough my friend. The taxes have been filed. The parts are coming soon. and I will be breaking out the solder pretty quickly. Although I am alittle worried about frying a second card :(

Be careful with that iron, myself got very lucky by destroying a soldering point, good thing that there is more than one of those!:roll:

kup
03-13-2008, 01:05 AM
Is Catalyst AI set to HIGH, LOW or DISABLED for you?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 01:09 AM
Be careful with that iron, myself got very lucky by destroying a soldering point, good thing that there is more than one of those!:roll:

i will be super careful, when i get it, I might lean on you some for some help!

kup
03-13-2008, 01:13 AM
I never had problems with catalyst drivers, maybe because i disable CCC and use rivatuner ;)
And for cooling i use a d-tek fusion gpu water block and the stock ram heatsink that i glued with epoxy
(before realising its a gdam aluminium piece of S&*%):banghead:

Same here, I only ever install the standalone driver and then use RivaTuner too...

Nitro-Max
03-13-2008, 02:53 AM
4-4-4-12 with very tight performance level settings.

Try 4-4-3-12;) works for me i used everest to test latency went from 72ns to 68ns

kup
03-13-2008, 02:56 AM
Try 4-4-3-12;)

4-4-3-12 in the traditional order of settings?

CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 3
RAS# ActivateTime : 12

Nitro-Max
03-13-2008, 03:16 AM
4-4-3-12 in the traditional order of settings?

yup i dont know what memory youre using because you havent done your system specs yet but it works ok on my 800mhz reapers.

kup
03-13-2008, 03:20 AM
Corsair XMS2 PC6400 DHX, got 4x1GB but only using 2x1GB per board. 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1v.

I'll give it a try tomorrow? How much of a boost does it give?

The Haunted
03-13-2008, 03:31 AM
Same here, I only ever install the standalone driver and then use RivaTuner too...

I recommend installing the driver with ccc and remove it from the startup list,
because the standalone driver doesn't come with the wdm driver or something like that.
This can cause some problem especially if you have an older version of it already installed.

AI is set at standard (Low)

kup
03-13-2008, 03:35 AM
I recommend installing the driver with ccc and remove it from the startup list,
because the standalone driver doesn't come with the wdm driver or something like that.
This can cause some problem especially if you have an older version of it already installed.

AI is set at standard (Low)


Interesting, I'll give it a go. Cheers for the advice.

And that is interesting about the AI, because it was set to OFF by default for me?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 03:36 AM
I recommend installing the driver with ccc and remove it from the startup list,
because the standalone driver doesn't come with the wdm driver or something like that.
This can cause some problem especially if you have an older version of it already installed.

AI is set at standard (Low)

not a bad idea there,

hey, unrelated question - do you erase your name and start over??

Im sure you must have more than~50 posts, whats the deal with that??

The Haunted
03-13-2008, 03:51 AM
not a bad idea there,

hey, unrelated question - do you erase your name and start over??

Im sure you must have more than~50 posts, whats the deal with that??

I don't post very often, i know 50 post sounds weird eheh :laugh:

asb2106
03-13-2008, 03:52 AM
I don't post very often, i know 50 post sounds weird eheh :laugh:

it does, I could swear I have seen you much more than that, ah well its all good

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 04:01 AM
TOMORROW BABY! CROSSFIRE + 1200MHZ RAM + Q6600 = COMPLETLY AWESOME!!!

my rig;s name is going to go from 1.2 to 2.0 lol

15th Warlock
03-13-2008, 04:14 AM
11,114

Videocard: Sapphire AGP HD3850 with Zalman VF900 Cu @776Mhz Core/999Mhz Mem
CPU: Core 2 Quad Q6600 at stock clocks

Main test results
3DMark Score 11114 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 4342
SM 3.0 Score 4848
CPU Score 3755

http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/Results.jpg


http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/11114.jpg

kup
03-13-2008, 04:16 AM
Freaksaviour, you've got ALL your personal details on those screenies I'd remove the pics and edit them out...

kup
03-13-2008, 04:17 AM
I recommend installing the driver with ccc and remove it from the startup list,
because the standalone driver doesn't come with the wdm driver or something like that.
This can cause some problem especially if you have an older version of it already installed.

AI is set at standard (Low)

8.3 Installed. Roughly 2fps slower which equates to about 200pts slower...

asb2106
03-13-2008, 04:38 AM
TOMORROW BABY! CROSSFIRE + 1200MHZ RAM + Q6600 = COMPLETLY AWESOME!!!

my rig;s name is going to go from 1.2 to 2.0 lol

sweet dude, Im really excited to see your numbers!!!


Now I dont know whats been my problem, I thought my q6600 needed this insane amount of voltage to hit 3.6 or higher. Well it might, but I wanted to see how high I could get my ram, and how I could get my proc without going over 1.35 volts.

I was very impressed with the results - VERY!
Q6600 - 3.51ghz
Gskill DDR2 @ 975mhz (rated for 1000) but my P5b Deluxe sucks

sorry to leave them like this, but its too big for TPU - you can DL my results here (http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/everest report.pdf) check it out!!!

kup
03-13-2008, 04:45 AM
sweet dude, Im really excited to see your numbers!!!


Now I dont know whats been my problem, I thought my q6600 needed this insane amount of voltage to hit 3.6 or higher. Well it might, but I wanted to see how high I could get my ram, and how I could get my proc without going over 1.35 volts.

I was very impressed with the results - VERY!
Q6600 - 3.51ghz
Gskill DDR2 @ 975mhz (rated for 1000) but my P5b Deluxe sucks

sorry to leave them like this, but its too big for TPU - you can DL my results here (http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/everest report.pdf) check it out!!!

Very nice Quad. What VID is that?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 04:49 AM
Very nice Quad. What VID is that?

you mean the G0? here Ill throw in some CPUz screenies
this will show clocks and ram(highest ive been) and temps - im happy
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/Untitled602.jpg

kup
03-13-2008, 04:54 AM
No no, VID. It's the stock voltage unique to each CPU as determined by Intel. 1.35v is the standard vCore but the VID is the ACTUAL minimum required vCore for each individual CPU as set when in testing.

Mine for example has a VID of 1.2375v, so I can run stable at stock (and oddly enough up to about 3.2GHz) with only 1.2375v full 100% load on all 4 cores.

Check it with the newest CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) program?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 04:56 AM
No no, VID. It's the stock voltage unique to each CPU as determined by Intel. 1.35v is the standard vCore but the VID is the ACTUAL minimum required vCore for each individual CPU as set when in testing.

Mine for example has a VID of 1.2375v, so I can run stable at stock (and oddly enough up to about 3.2GHz) with only 1.2375v full 100% load on all 4 cores.

Check it with the newest CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) program?

cool call, sorry
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/Untitled4.jpg

asb2106
03-13-2008, 04:57 AM
so im only .03 volts over VID and Im sitting at 3.51, I really cannot complain!!!

kup
03-13-2008, 04:59 AM
so im only .03 volts over VID and Im sitting at 3.51, I really cannot complain!!!

Well according to your CPUZ shot, your vCore is drooping to 1.296v so you're only 0.21v over stock VID and you're @ 3.5GHz...VERY NICE CPU!

What stability tests have you run on it?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:01 AM
Well according to your CPUZ shot, your vCore is drooping to 1.296v so you're only 0.21v over stock VID and you're @ 3.5GHz...VERY NICE CPU!

What stability tests have you run on it?

prime for 20 minutes, my real test is to run SETI all night tonight,(i run seti 24/7 on my 8 machines, and on about 25 others)

during the prime I also ran the everest test over the top of it, if I ever have stability issues that everest test picks it up ASAP! I think it will make it, I was running all the tests when i shot the CPUZ and coretemp screenies, its been almost 30 minutes now

kup
03-13-2008, 05:06 AM
Not Seti... :D

Folding is where it's at... I run a Folding Team and we've been rocketing through the ranks up to 489th place since only January.

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:09 AM
Not Seti... :D

Folding is where it's at... I run a Folding Team and we've been rocketing through the ranks up to 489th place since only January.

ive been running SETI for a long long time, Im almost stuck here!!

2,000 place out of 1.3mil - and thats competing with all the universitys and schools and corporations that run it!

kup
03-13-2008, 05:12 AM
That's impressive, do you have any links to your team or forums?

Sorry for the OT...

But back on topic I've stuck with the 8.3 Cats this evening and worked out their odd quirks and they now perform better than the 8.2 Cats. :toast:

More scores soon, not tonight because I'm tired and I think my lady would kill me if I just suddenly turned all the fans up to 12v... :D :slap:

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:19 AM
That's impressive, do you have any links to your team or forums?

Sorry for the OT...

But back on topic I've stuck with the 8.3 Cats this evening and worked out their odd quirks and they now perform better than the 8.2 Cats. :toast:

More scores soon, not tonight because I'm tired and I think my lady would kill me if I just suddenly turned all the fans up to 12v... :D :slap:
Here (http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=86d22c03797cf20d9cfaa5e0cbed3139) is my bonicstats sheet(its for all my projects)

I always like the newest drivers, it seems like there is little bugs to work out, but once you get them its all good! I will update everything again in the AM. I see that there are quite a few to update. (still running 54 mins)~!

ThatGuy16
03-13-2008, 05:19 AM
Whats the max core clock some of you have gotten without volt mods, for benching?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:21 AM
Whats the max core clock some of you have gotten without volt mods, for benching?

904core 1424 mem - no mods


bed time - good night all

kup
03-13-2008, 05:29 AM
Whats the max core clock some of you have gotten without volt mods, for benching?

Max I've tried on stock cooler was 877/1400 but I'm pretty sure with the HR-03 GT on there now I can push to 918/1400, possibly more on the ram.

I'm able to keep the card 100% GPU load @ only 33*c right with this HR-03 GT and a 120mm fan on it... It helps it clock... :D :toast:

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:31 AM
Max I've tried on stock cooler was 877/1400 but I'm pretty sure with the HR-03 GT on there now I can push to 918/1400, possibly more on the ram.

I'm able to keep the card 100% GPU load @ only 33*c right with this HR-03 GT and a 120mm fan on it... It helps it clock... :D :toast:

i have a full cover EK water block - temps around 30 at full load, I could get it to boot and run 918, but it would fail after an hour of gaming or so. Thats not good enough for me. need 100% stabilty@!!

ThatGuy16
03-13-2008, 05:33 AM
These things are mad overclockers :respect:

I forgot, i can only do 877 because thats the max for CCC. I can't get Rivatuner to overclock my seconed card :mad:

I think i'm going to get duorbs for both of them soon :toast:

kup
03-13-2008, 05:42 AM
i have a full cover EK water block - temps around 30 at full load, I could get it to boot and run 918, but it would fail after an hour of gaming or so. Thats not good enough for me. need 100% stabilty@!!

For my testing I do this:


First 20mins of ATi Tool Artifact Tester, core and ram tested independently.
Then I loop 3DMark 2K6 for at least an hour @ Max resolution, Max AA and Max AF.
Lastly I game for an afternoon, either CoD4, Hitman Blood Money or Crysis.


If it fails at any one of those steps I'll go back and start the whole process again... :banghead: :D

ThatGuy16
03-13-2008, 05:45 AM
See, i don't have that kind of patience :D

CPU: Orthos for two hours or OCCT for two hours.

Graphics: Mild OC and start gaming, and hope its stable :toast:

:roll:

Nitro-Max
03-13-2008, 05:46 AM
cool call, sorry
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/Untitled4.jpg

my vids the same 1.275v im doing 3.6ghz with only 1.360v stable.

kup
03-13-2008, 05:53 AM
See, i don't have that kind of patience :D

CPU: Orthos for two hours or OCCT for two hours.

Graphics: Mild OC and start gaming, and hope its stable :toast:

:roll:

Ya see I take the attitude that the MAX clocks I bench at should also be my 24/7 settings and so I insist on 110% stability. I fold 24/7 on several systems and as such can't afford for them to be unstable. This bleeds over into the graphics because if the graphics cause a crash I'll probably lose the WU being processed.

Meh...I just prefer to know it's stable! :D

ThatGuy16
03-13-2008, 06:48 AM
Ya see I take the attitude that the MAX clocks I bench at should also be my 24/7 settings and so I insist on 110% stability. I fold 24/7 on several systems and as such can't afford for them to be unstable. This bleeds over into the graphics because if the graphics cause a crash I'll probably lose the WU being processed.

Meh...I just prefer to know it's stable! :D

I do some stress tests, i usually just run crysis for a couple hours to test the graphics. And then run orthos for two hours.. from my experience, if orthos fails, it always does within 30 minutes. But that just me :p

on topic, tomarrow im going to try and push my system a little further on air. Maybe i can break my best score of 19.1k

:toast:

asb2106
03-13-2008, 02:41 PM
my vids the same 1.275v im doing 3.6ghz with only 1.360v stable.

hey, you cant argue though, Im doing much better now at 1.3 volts at 3.5 then I ever was - if Im not mistaken it was you who was giving me crap for running such a high voltage through mine!!

Im loving this voltage too - idle 24C and load 36C (average on the cores)

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 02:52 PM
hey, you cant argue though, Im doing much better now at 1.3 volts at 3.5 then I ever was - if Im not mistaken it was you who was giving me crap for running such a high voltage through mine!!

Im loving this voltage too - idle 24C and load 36C (average on the cores)

I hope my quad isn't a voltage eater. my e4300 has to be at 1.5 to get were i am.

asb2106
03-13-2008, 02:58 PM
I hope my quad isn't a voltage eater. my e4300 has to be at 1.5 to get were i am.

I played with mine, and I could run at 1.37 @ 3.6, it crashed on me after 20 minutes of prime, so i feel I would prob need about 1.4. But Im happy at 1.3 for 3.5ghz. When i bench Ill kick it up to 1.57 and 3.8 ghz. Im hoping with my x38/x48(when I get it - which cant come soon enough) that I will be able to hit 4 or 4.2 ghz. Im prepared to run crazy voltage through it, but id prefer not to, I guess Im hoping my new board wont suffer from vdroop as bad!

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 03:06 PM
the maximus formula, im not sure if it has a vdrop. im going to try for 4.0ghz but i don't want to push crazy volts through it. i have enough cooling and the TR Ultra 120E so i should be good.

Actually my cooling concerns me. Im not sure if i have it right.

edit: looks like it's roughly .03 vdrop

asb2106
03-13-2008, 03:08 PM
the maximus formula, im not sure if it has a vdrop. im going to try for 4.0ghz but i don't want to push crazy volts through it. i have enough cooling and the TR Ultra 120E so i should be good.

Actually my cooling concerns me. Im not sure if i have it right.

i have a water system with a 220 mm rad and a 320 mm rad, with 7 fans blowing through it, and when I get to 3.8 my temps are still in the 60's. I hate 60's, I really dont like 50's that much either. But hey, for benching and maybe the hour or 2 to stabilize, I dont mind too much

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 03:11 PM
well the way mine is now,

3 x 120mm (side) sucking in
2 x 120mm (front) sucking in
1 x 120mm (top) blowing out
2 x 120mm (back) blowing out and one on my cooler
2 x 1200mm (bottom, under case) sucking in air

asb2106
03-13-2008, 03:32 PM
well the way mine is now,

3 x 120mm (side) sucking in
2 x 120mm (front) sucking in
1 x 120mm (top) blowing out
2 x 120mm (back) blowing out and one on my cooler
2 x 1200mm (bottom, under case) sucking in air

good air flow, I would have to guess youll do a good job of cooling the q6600, I got all my radiators cause of my e6600, that thing got HOT, my q6600 isnt as bad, thats another one of the reasons I love it so much!

asb2106
03-13-2008, 04:11 PM
7 users that have an x2 crossfire system, man I would love to see those scores!

EDIT: this was sarcasm because the poll says 7 users with x2 xfire and I dont see any systems posted with it!!!!!

trog100
03-13-2008, 05:10 PM
when a few quad 45nm chips arrive the crossfire and x 2 score should get boosted.. two cards are cpu limited.. card clocks wont be quite as important as pure cpu speed..

trog

ps... u bought the wrong chip freak for super x 2 or crossfire 2006 scores.. he he.. quad 45nm at 4.5 gig is gonna rule the day..

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:18 PM
quad 45nm at 4.5 gig is gonna rule the day..

and the wallet

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 05:19 PM
when a few quad 45nm chips arrive the crossfire and x 2 score should get boosted.. two cards are cpu limited.. card clocks wont be quite as important as pure cpu speed..

trog

ps... u bought the wrong chip freak for super x 2 or crossfire 2006 scores.. he he.. quad 45nm at 4.5 gig is gonna rule the day..

what do you think i should have got?

its still not here, i can always return it.

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:23 PM
what do you think i should have got?

its still not here, i can always return it.

dude, honestly for the price to performance, the q6600 rules!!

AND NO OFFENSE TROG - PLEASE BELIEVE THAT!!!!

Trog is the one who says that a quad is useless in todays gaming rigs, its only for benches and gloating.

And honestly he is right.


But if you can get your quad to 3.8 I promise youll be more than happy.

I recommend you look at those everest results I posted earlier - that will give you a good feel of how a q6600 at 3.5 will perform

asb2106
03-13-2008, 05:24 PM
sweet dude, Im really excited to see your numbers!!!


Now I dont know whats been my problem, I thought my q6600 needed this insane amount of voltage to hit 3.6 or higher. Well it might, but I wanted to see how high I could get my ram, and how I could get my proc without going over 1.35 volts.

I was very impressed with the results - VERY!
Q6600 - 3.51ghz
Gskill DDR2 @ 975mhz (rated for 1000) but my P5b Deluxe sucks

sorry to leave them like this, but its too big for TPU - you can DL my results here (http://www.freewebs.com/tsquaredcomputers/everest report.pdf) check it out!!!

heres the post, check it out, it will shed some good light on the performance of the q

kup
03-13-2008, 05:52 PM
the maximus formula, im not sure if it has a vdrop. im going to try for 4.0ghz but i don't want to push crazy volts through it. i have enough cooling and the TR Ultra 120E so i should be good.

Actually my cooling concerns me. Im not sure if i have it right.

edit: looks like it's roughly .03 vdrop

Asus Maximus Formula *Part 2* *Help / Overclocking / Guide* (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168119)

That is a link to my Maximus Formula thread @ XS, more than enough info in there to get you peak performance, settings, every bios so far, user experiences, tweaks...everything!

And the vDroop mod, tiny pencil mod, takes 2 seconds. But if you enable Loadline Calibration you should get next to no vDroop anyway unless your PSU isn't up to the task of powering a Quad?

trog100
03-13-2008, 05:55 PM
dude, honestly for the price to performance, the q6600 rules!!

AND NO OFFENSE TROG - PLEASE BELIEVE THAT!!!!

Trog is the one who says that a quad is useless in todays gaming rigs, its only for benches and gloating.

And honestly he is right.


But if you can get your quad to 3.8 I promise youll be more than happy.

I recommend you look at those everest results I posted earlier - that will give you a good feel of how a q6600 at 3.5 will perform

course i am right but the new 45nm quad is gonna rule the 2006 benches..

the problem is price.. u need one with the higher multiplier..

if super 2006 bench scores is what matters.. the new higher multiplier 45nm quads are gonna rule the day..

the cheaper lower mulitplier ones.. well they are gonna be motherboard and ram limited.. if your mobo and ram will do 500 mhz.. a 9 x multiplier will be needed for 4.5 gig..

if your mobo ram is good for 450.. the cheaper 45nm chips aint gonna get the clocks needed..

but the chip should go up to 4.5 gig if the other things let it.. at least for benching.. 4 gig should be easy for 24/7 use..

am i gonna buy one.. no.. cos the best 2006 scores aint that important to me.. but to those they are.. a new 45nm quad is gonna be needed..

a 6600 at 3.8 gig aint gonna cut the mustard any more..

trog

ps.. top 2006 scores are not about price performance.. they are about performance.. the price becomes secondary..

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 05:56 PM
kup could you fill out your system specs please. :)

IS the MF1004 a beta bios??

kup
03-13-2008, 06:10 PM
kup could you fill out your system specs please. :)

IS the MF1004 a beta bios??

Specs added.

MF1004 is indeed Beta, it fixes a lot of the problems for the 45nm CPUs but not much else IMO. Before flashing to this Rampage bios I used the 0505 after testing every other bios because 0505 gave me the best performance per clock, least bugs and best stability with an uptime of several weeks before I rebooted it. Anything over 0505 seemed to give intermittent reboots regardless of system stability. I could Fold/Prime/OCCT/Everest Stress 24/7 and had done, and then it could crash when Idle... :banghead:

Since going back to 0505 this problem went away again!

trog100
03-13-2008, 06:18 PM
the power of two 3870 cards is now totally 100% cpu limitted in 2006.. higher scores are gonna come down to who has the fastest quad core cpu.. why is quad needed.. purely cos of the multicore coded cpu test.. the game tests.. single threaded a fast single core chip would bang them out qiuck enough.. quad is no gain at all in those.. pure cpu core speed wins the day..

just as long as folks know the way it works.. most dont seem to..

trog

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 07:07 PM
it came in G0 stepping :D

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/IMG00145.jpg

DaMulta
03-13-2008, 07:10 PM
it came in

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/IMG00145.jpg

Ultra nerd sexy ram u have there.

DOM
03-13-2008, 07:12 PM
so what does your dad think, that you have a better rig ?

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 07:13 PM
he could care less, he wants me to stop spending so much.

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:18 PM
a 6600 at 3.8 gig aint gonna cut the mustard any more..



ohhhh i love it,

And this is too funny, a quad running at 3800mhz isnt cuttin it!!!

Its funny because 99% of computer users dont have half that power!!!

Yes, we do more than AIM and email & web browse, but imagine how fast they could web browse with a quad at 3.8!!! hehe

I just think its hilarious when we think a quad 3.8 isnt fast enough any more! And trust me, Im on the boat too, the day I got my q I had it running 3.7, and it wasnt fast enough, only because there was a qx that could do more. Whenever something faster is out, its never gonna be enough

and your right trog, when it comes to pure performance, money doesnt matter, but Im sure most of us here are not loaded and have the ability to spend a G at the drop of a hat. I may crave and desire the best performance, but Im not gonna foolishly spend 1000 on a proc.

Its all about the budget baby! Now dont get me wrong, if I won the lottery, Oh man it would be the works!

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:19 PM
it came in G0 stepping :D


i dont think there are that many b3's around any more.

But it would have really sucked if you did get a B3, lets all be thankful that you didnt!

DOM
03-13-2008, 07:19 PM
he could care less, he wants me to stop spending so much.

:laugh: he's jealous but where do you get the money, being a family man sucks to many bills but its all good, but miss living with mom and dad :( didnt pay a thing :D

did you already put it in if not hurry up

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:21 PM
:laugh:

did you already put it in if not hurry up

+1 HEHE:laugh:

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 07:27 PM
i work at best buy and only have insurance to pay for my car. So i don't really have bills. im 18, and almost done with high school, use my parents camery (technically my car) but i just don't have bills and this is my only hobby.

as soon as im done with school, its going in. so maybe another hour or two.

btw all the benches will be server 08

trog100
03-13-2008, 07:31 PM
Yes, we do more than AIM and email & web browse, but imagine how fast they could web browse with a quad at 3.8!!! hehe

no faster than they could with dual at 2.4 gig.. we all have way too much cpu power except for scoring high in 2006.. he he he

then we cant have toooo much..

this thread says it all.. 45nm quad at 5.8 gig or so.. he he

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=55081

which is why my line is now drawn with an E8400 dual core cpu.. thats it for quite some time for me..

trog

ps.. i do have bills.. but more importantly.. other follies to wast my money on as well as my PC.. he he

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:33 PM
Asus Maximus Formula *Part 2* *Help / Overclocking / Guide* (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168119)

That is a link to my Maximus Formula thread @ XS, more than enough info in there to get you peak performance, settings, every bios so far, user experiences, tweaks...everything!

And the vDroop mod, tiny pencil mod, takes 2 seconds. But if you enable Loadline Calibration you should get next to no vDroop anyway unless your PSU isn't up to the task of powering a Quad?

kup, that is one hell of a thread! I look forward to using it!!!
Nice build there, thank you and congrats on a sweet thread

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:37 PM
no faster than they could with dual at 2.4 gig.. we all have way too much cpu power except for scoring high in 2006.. he he he

then we cant have toooo much..

this thread says it all.. 45nm quad at 5.8 gig or so.. he he

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=55081

which is why my line is now drawn with an E8400 dual core cpu.. thats it for quite some time for me..

trog

ps.. i do have bills.. but more importantly.. other follies to wast my money on as well as my PC.. he he

that is one crazy system! I was checking that out yesterday at futuremark! those are some great numbers, especially with a sinlge x2, I wonder what can be done with 2.

Yes you can shoot for the moon and these crazy numbers, but I like to achieve the best numbers possible, and have a system that a low level IT guy can afford(with house payment, car payment, insurance for both, school loans, and many other expenses)

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:41 PM
i work at best buy and only have insurance to pay for my car. So i don't really have bills. im 18, and almost done with high school, use my parents camery (technically my car) but i just don't have bills and this is my only hobby.

as soon as im done with school, its going in. so maybe another hour or two.

btw all the benches will be server 08

ohhh nice, are you at school now??

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 07:43 PM
Yup, home school ftw :D

asb2106
03-13-2008, 07:59 PM
Yup, home school ftw :D

oic, very cool

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 09:01 PM
im trying to boot it at 3.6 ddr2 1200

i want to hit 3.8 1260

cpu v at 1.45
cpu pll 1.54 (what is cpu pll?
Dra, 2.22
fsb 1.26 (what should this be?)
south bridge 1.05
northbgide gtl 0.67x

bios 1004

any suggestions?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 09:07 PM
im trying to boot it at 3.6 ddr2 1200

i want to hit 3.8 1260

cpu v at 1.45
cpu pll 1.54 (what is cpu pll?
Dra, 2.22
fsb 1.26 (what should this be?)
south bridge 1.05
northbgide gtl 0.67x

bios 1004

any suggestions?

PLL voltage sometimes helps with high FSB OCs, but be careful and stay below 1.9v or you will kill the chip. it will wear it out very quickly, if too much voltage is applied

1.9 might even be alittle high.....

I run my FSB at 1.35 v I can run 1.25 but it does random restarts every other day or so.

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 09:10 PM
whats max vcore?

asb2106
03-13-2008, 09:11 PM
honestly freak,

I would start at stock settings, push until it needs more volts, and slowely work your way up.

No need to push things and possibly use more volts than you need, that just causes more heat

Infact, why dont you start at stock, run some benches, and as you go, take benches the whole way so you can document your speeds/results

asb2106
03-13-2008, 09:12 PM
whats max vcore?

for the VCORE on air I would top out around 1.45 or so. You prob wont need that much for a 3.6ghz

InPaniC
03-13-2008, 09:20 PM
Again:

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/b46800z175_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=b46800z175.jpg)

asb2106
03-13-2008, 09:23 PM
Again:

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/b46800z175_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=b46800z175.jpg)

hey freak, FYI, I will send you an update later tonight - prob like 9 or 10 central

asb2106
03-13-2008, 09:54 PM
any luck with your new parts freak????

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 09:59 PM
Quad is at 3.4 and i scored 16k but that sucks! so im oc the cards now.

asb2106
03-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Quad is at 3.4 and i scored 16k but that sucks! so im oc the cards now.

good call, what the VCORE at on the q?

ThatGuy16
03-13-2008, 10:04 PM
How are you guys overclocking in crossfire? I have to OC one with rivatuner and the other with CCC. My max for my seconed card is 877, rivatuner won't overclock the slave card because it only detects the 2d clocks :mad:

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 10:09 PM
good call, what the VCORE at on the q?

im at 3.52 @ 1.42v

not bad imo.

-iceblade^
03-13-2008, 10:12 PM
here's mine :D

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-83844-1205443338.jpg

first post, btw - hi all...

freaksavior
03-13-2008, 11:46 PM
How are you guys overclocking in crossfire? I have to OC one with rivatuner and the other with CCC. My max for my seconed card is 877, rivatuner won't overclock the slave card because it only detects the 2d clocks :mad:

I don't know how to do that either, after you said that i looked and noticed i was only oc one card.

How do i do both?

and my card (his) crashes at 850core 1350mem

So if i can figure it out, i want both to run at 837core and 1342 mem because they will both do it.

i think im going to re-install the server os

ThatGuy16
03-14-2008, 01:19 AM
not sure, for I'm running 837/1156 for 24/7 (i can get those clocks for both cards in CCC), i know i can go higher on the ram..


Heres my problem!! :mad:

I was playing COD4 for about an hour, when a solid brown screen with light brown lines popped up. I had to press the reset button.

Is this graphics related? This same exact screen happened when i was running a single card with my x2 5600+ rig. So i know its not CPU related. These clocks should be stable without question, i would think. I don't think one is getting too hot, the fans ramp up with the temperature. :banghead:

What do you guys think? (the other time, i was playing GTA SA)

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 01:28 AM
i found out how to oc both cards, havent actually tried yet as i am at work.

The amd program for graphics cards are suppose to oc both cards i read.

http://168.94.74.21:15871/cgi-bin/afterWorkOptions.cgi?ws-session=788579714

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:16 AM
im at 3.52 @ 1.42v

not bad imo.

sweet! I had to fix mine up a bit, its been acting weird, random lock ups, no blue screens, but still not good. I leveled out at 3.51 - > 1.375 volts. And after vdroop its at 1.3 @ 100 load

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:17 AM
not sure, for I'm running 837/1156 for 24/7 (i can get those clocks for both cards in CCC), i know i can go higher on the ram..


Heres my problem!! :mad:

I was playing COD4 for about an hour, when a solid brown screen with light brown lines popped up. I had to press the reset button.

Is this graphics related? This same exact screen happened when i was running a single card with my x2 5600+ rig. So i know its not CPU related. These clocks should be stable without question, i would think. I don't think one is getting too hot, the fans ramp up with the temperature. :banghead:

What do you guys think? (the other time, i was playing GTA SA)

Im not saying its the temps, but the fans dont turn up until the core gets to like 85 degrees. Its worth it to crank the fans in RT.

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:19 AM
here's mine :D

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/uploads/post-83844-1205443338.jpg

first post, btw - hi all...

good to have you!!

what is the clock of your proc? is it 2ghz, or is it a higher multi??

and what kind of 38** do you have??

-iceblade^
03-14-2008, 03:22 AM
thanks :). 'tis 3ghz, but i forgot to run SuperPi in the background... always end up having pics showing my PC with 2ghz instead of three :P. Is your card the Gecube O.C. Edition or the standard HD3870?

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:25 AM
thanks :). 'tis 3ghz, but i forgot to run SuperPi in the background... always end up having pics showing my PC with 2ghz instead of three :P. Is your card the Gecube O.C. Edition or the standard HD3870?

standard, U?

EDIT: Freak, updating now, Ill have it over soon!
Hoping your pushing that rig!!! I wanna see 20k tonight! DO IT!!!!

Nitro-Max
03-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Hows the maximus freaksaviour? Im ordering one myself next week asus maximus republic of gamers limited edition is that the one you have? are all maximus the same?

Dr. Spankenstein
03-14-2008, 03:37 AM
I've always OC both in CCC, but then again I was still on the Crysis Hotfix drivers. Not sure about recent developments. Seem like the new Cats are a different breed.

BTW, my Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 is on it's way! w00t!

Nitro-Max
03-14-2008, 03:49 AM
I've always OC both in CCC, but then again I was still on the Crysis Hotfix drivers. Not sure about recent developments. Seem like the new Cats are a different breed.

BTW, my Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 is on it's way! w00t!

Great boards m8 id have another any day but i wanna see what the asus maximus is like ive heard rma horror stories on them but im gonna definatly buy from ebuyer there normally the best when it comes to rma they pickup free also :).

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 03:51 AM
Hows the maximus freaksaviour? Im ordering one myself next week asus maximus republic of gamers limited edition is that the one you have? are all maximus the same?

its freaksavior ;)

and it is an awesome. The SE is for water cooling, i can't figure out half the bios fetures but overall a good board

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:59 AM
Soooo, any 3dmark yets freak???

asb2106
03-14-2008, 04:00 AM
I've always OC both in CCC, but then again I was still on the Crysis Hotfix drivers. Not sure about recent developments. Seem like the new Cats are a different breed.

BTW, my Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 is on it's way! w00t!

good choice of boards, please let me know how that goes!! Id like to see what kind of results you can get out of that

ThatGuy16
03-14-2008, 04:05 AM
Im not saying its the temps, but the fans dont turn up until the core gets to like 85 degrees. Its worth it to crank the fans in RT.

True, but i think the temps are in the 60's/low 70's on load. Which is about normal for stock coolers.

My second thought was the CPU, but orthos has been going for 1 1/2 hours. I would think it would have already failed if that were the cause.

The only other thing i can think of would be the G MCH or memory voltage. I have set the G MCH from +0.025v to +0.05v (stock g mch voltage would cause lockups about 5 minutes after loading windows, i had to up the g mch voltage after adding crossfire)

asb2106
03-14-2008, 04:07 AM
True, but i think the temps are in the 60's/low 70's on load. Which is about normal for stock coolers.

My second thought was the CPU, but orthos has been going for 1 1/2 hours. I would think it would have already failed if that were the cause.

The only other thing i can think of would be the G MCH or memory voltage. I have set the G MCH from +0.025v to +0.05v (stock g mch voltage would cause lockups about 5 minutes after loading windows, i had to up the g mch voltage after adding crossfire)

yah, thats not the issue then, hmmm thats odd. GL:D

-iceblade^
03-14-2008, 04:17 AM
it's the o.c. edition for me...

some of the scores for the 3870s seem quite low...

asb2106
03-14-2008, 04:20 AM
it's the o.c. edition for me...

some of the scores for the 3870s seem quite low...

cool, I got the list updated and sent it to freak, it should be up tonight or in the AM sometime - hes normally really really quick with it

ThatGuy16
03-14-2008, 04:31 AM
yah, thats not the issue then, hmmm thats odd. GL:D

We'll see :p

After i get this figured out, its time to start overclocking and running 3dmark some more :toast:

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 04:53 AM
i got my proc to 3.8 with 1.52 vcore..is that to high?

im at 3.65 @ 1.5v now

i cant oc the cards, drivers fail every time.

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 05:01 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/Untitled-5.jpg

asb2106
03-14-2008, 05:02 AM
i got my proc to 3.8 with 1.52 vcore..is that to high?

im at 3.65 @ 1.5v now

i cant oc the cards, drivers fail every time.

i dont see why thats too high, hell I ran mine 3.8 @ 1.62 volts for about 4 weeks. After vdroop it was at like 1.55. But I was on water- if your temps are below 60 I wouldnt worry

asb2106
03-14-2008, 05:02 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/Untitled-5.jpg

hang on, Ill get this on the list ASAP and shoot it over

SENT

asb2106
03-14-2008, 05:07 AM
Freak - Those are some killer scores! Especially for not OCing the cards yet. I remember hearing of an option you had to turn on in the CCC for crossfire. Hmm, hope your figure it out soon!

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 05:09 AM
my os is server 08 not xp lol.

ill update it tomorrow and push for more, time to go to bed..

asb2106
03-14-2008, 05:19 AM
my os is server 08 not xp lol.

ill update it tomorrow and push for more, time to go to bed..

i here that! Im hitting the sack

Murasame
03-14-2008, 06:14 AM
Finally got 3dmark06 to run after uninstalling cat 8.3 and reinstalling 8.2. My new HD3850 stomps my old x1900gt.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3172/3dmark06mc2.png

asb2106
03-14-2008, 02:37 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/Untitled-5.jpg

Im really thinking that you can hit 20k. You gonna spend some time on it this weekend u think?

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 03:22 PM
I almost hit 19k.

20k doesn't look possible for me.

I was trying to becnh at 3.8 1.55vcore (staying under 60c) and it was stable, but i clocked my cards to 800/1300 and they crashed again. i dont' know if its server 08 or if its drivers.

im going to run them in xp and see if i get much score difference.

So far my top score is 18916 (sorry my comp crashed shortly after and i coultn't save the screenie)

asb2106
03-14-2008, 03:51 PM
I almost hit 19k.

20k doesn't look possible for me.

I was trying to becnh at 3.8 1.55vcore (staying under 60c) and it was stable, but i clocked my cards to 800/1300 and they crashed again. i dont' know if its server 08 or if its drivers.

im going to run them in xp and see if i get much score difference.

So far my top score is 18916 (sorry my comp crashed shortly after and i coultn't save the screenie)

bummer! If you could get those cards up to even 825/1250 youll prob hit 20k.

After I saw the card you bought I went over to the egg to look at it, and I noticed a few users there said that the card would not overclock even a touch! Thats kinda a let down :(

I hope its just a driver thing in server08, it very well could be, I would run XP anyways, I have always had good luck and good stability in XP

Nitro-Max
03-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Whats the vid on your Q6600 freaksavior according to core temp? mines 1.275v i can run 3.6ghz with just 1.360v after vdroop.
If your vids like 1.34v then ye u will probably need a bit of extra vcore than mine.

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Whats the vid on your Q6600 freaksavior according to core temp? mines 1.275v i can run 3.6ghz with just 1.360v after vdroop.
If your vids like 1.34v then ye u will probably need a bit of extra vcore than mine.

it is 1.44 (1.50 in bios)

kup
03-14-2008, 06:29 PM
VID is not the vCore set in the bios.

No no, VID. It's the stock voltage unique to each CPU as determined by Intel. 1.35v is the standard vCore but the VID is the ACTUAL minimum required vCore for each individual CPU as set when in testing.

Mine for example has a VID of 1.2375v, so I can run stable at stock (and oddly enough up to about 3.2GHz) with only 1.2375v full 100% load on all 4 cores.

Check it with the newest CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/) program?

trog100
03-14-2008, 07:16 PM
slow your card memory down freak.. mine aint stable at 1300 i run 1250 in crossfire.. your cores should run around 830 thow..

your cpu or your cards will halt 2006.. u need to make sure at least the card or the cpu is stable.. slow the cpu done to tests the cards.. then slow the cards down to test the cpu..

trog

as for volts being too high.. i run benching volts way higher than 24/7 volts.. there is a difference..

zOaib
03-14-2008, 08:15 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/x28pe9.jpg

my score at my max resolution =)

erocker
03-14-2008, 08:35 PM
Here's a 3850 score for you!:)

asb2106
03-14-2008, 08:58 PM
Here's a 3850 score for you!:)

sweet! Thank you.

Not bad what a 150 dollar card can do eh?!

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 09:11 PM
slow your card memory down freak.. mine aint stable at 1300 i run 1250 in crossfire.. your cores should run around 830 thow..

your cpu or your cards will halt 2006.. u need to make sure at least the card or the cpu is stable.. slow the cpu done to tests the cards.. then slow the cards down to test the cpu..

trog

as for volts being too high.. i run benching volts way higher than 24/7 volts.. there is a difference..

so your saying i should try maybe 800/1250??

trog100
03-14-2008, 09:40 PM
so your saying i should try maybe 800/1250??

yes.. the core speed is more important than the memory speed.. if the slower memory works okay try upping the core speeds a bit.. only 800 for a core seems very low to me..

but each bloody card differs.. i would say an average 3870 should do 830/1250..

but if HIS speed bin the better cores for their turbo cards.. they might well end up with crap cores for their none turbo cards.. its possible..

only 800 for a core is crap thow.. but its quite possible if speed binning goes on..

trog

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 10:06 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/boo.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/10.jpg

erocker
03-14-2008, 11:35 PM
sweet! Thank you.

Not bad what a 150 dollar card can do eh?!

I paid no where near that! This is a pretty capable little card. Not as good as my 8800 640mb, but with less than half the memory, it's pretty darn close! I just need to find a really good deal on a 3870 now.

freaksavior
03-14-2008, 11:56 PM
3870 Crossfire
Quad Core

*1* 22094 - Deagle- Q6600 @ 4.15ghz 3870 @ 1026 Core 1323 Mem - XP
*2* 120523 - ManoWaari - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1296 Mem - XP
*3* 120346 - InPaniC - Q6600 @ 3.9ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1296 Mem - XP
*4* 120108 - Smallz750 - QX9650 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 845 Core 1201 Mem - Vista
*5* 118152 - lajchi - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3850 @ 823 Core 990 Mem - XP
*6* 117313 - Woody112 - q6600 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 812 Core 1224 Mem - Vista
*7* 117050 - Blacklash - Q6600 @ 3.5ghz 3850 @ 760 Core 1029 Mem - Vista



if you look at those my score should be around 18k. Why is it not?!?!?!? :banghead: :cry:

asb2106
03-15-2008, 01:03 AM
if you look at those my score should be around 18k. Why is it not?!?!?!? :banghead: :cry:

what happened, I thought you were at like 18 k last night??

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 01:05 AM
what happened, I thought you were at like 18 k last night??

i almost hit 19k but for some reason i cant get it to happen again.

asb2106
03-15-2008, 01:08 AM
i almost hit 19k but for some reason i cant get it to happen again.

thats so weird!!! I would run an XP install, with the 8.2 drivers, just to see if that would work.....

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 01:14 AM
i would if i could get it to detect my raid array! i am not sure what it is, but my floppy is found, loads the drivers, then cant read the floppy. :wtf:

asb2106
03-15-2008, 01:19 AM
i would if i could get it to detect my raid array! i am not sure what it is, but my floppy is found, loads the drivers, then cant read the floppy. :wtf:

thats really annoying eh!!! best of luck!

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 01:43 AM
luckily i work at bby and can get floppys for like $0.30

ThatGuy16
03-15-2008, 04:24 AM
i just figured out why COD4 was crashing after about 1 hour. Its the ram clock. I lowered it to 1156 and it was still crashing, the i set it to 1143 and it ran rock solid. I raised it back to 1156 and the crashing started again. So right now i'm running 823/1143. So i may be able to turn the core clock back up...

That's weird though, the ram is hardly overclocked.. (i do know that on the diamond card, the heatsink does not cover one ram chip.)

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 05:20 AM
im going to give xp another go for instal. got some floppys :roll:

asb2106
03-15-2008, 05:56 AM
im going to give xp another go for instal. got some floppys :roll:

Good luck !!! I hope it works for you!!!

Wile E
03-15-2008, 06:36 AM
im going to give xp another go for instal. got some floppys :roll:

Instead of fussing with floppies, why not integrate the RAID drivers directly onto a custom install disk using nLite? http://www.nliteos.com/

You can also use nlite to strip a ton of the stuff that you don't need in Windows, making for a lighter and faster running XP.

Nitro-Max
03-15-2008, 03:14 PM
dissable running processes m8 that you dont need running and check the bios make sure C1E is dissabled etc.

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 09:38 PM
i got it installed. im runing 3.66 1.5vcore. stable.

time to run 3dmark and pray to God it doesn't crash

freaksavior
03-15-2008, 10:13 PM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/20k.jpg

REVHEAD
03-16-2008, 02:06 AM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7541/3dmarkshj0.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmarkshj0.jpg)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/330066.png (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=330066)

freaksavior
03-16-2008, 02:08 AM
need a pic of gpu-z dude
btw fill out your system specs if you can and what board are you using?

i cant get my board to post at your speed on those volts! it crashed every time

freaksavior
03-16-2008, 03:09 AM
is it possible i got a bad q6600?

i just find it odd how so manyo others can clock to 3.8+ on low volts when mine is 3.66 @ 1.5.

could it be my board also?

asb2106
03-16-2008, 03:18 AM
is it possible i got a bad q6600?

i just find it odd how so manyo others can clock to 3.8+ on low volts when mine is 3.66 @ 1.5.

could it be my board also?

hell i hope its not your board!!! I want to get the same one(or similar) My q doesnt clock far past 3.6 I can hit 3.8 but its really only bench stable, over night at load it will fault and restart atleast once

freaksavior
03-16-2008, 03:26 AM
well why do i have to use such high vcore to reach this clock though when a lot of you people are hitting 3.7 with like 1.4 stable

asb2106
03-16-2008, 04:06 AM
well why do i have to use such high vcore to reach this clock though when a lot of you people are hitting 3.7 with like 1.4 stable

im running 3.7 right now with my benches for the 9600, and Im at 1.62 volts in bios - after droop its at 1.57 so dont feel to bad. I think most are like ours, and some are just better. But honestly, we are not doing that bad..... lets be thankful that we dont have phenoms:laugh::laugh:

yogurt_21
03-16-2008, 06:00 AM
well why do i have to use such high vcore to reach this clock though when a lot of you people are hitting 3.7 with like 1.4 stable

coolers make alot of difference, as well as ambient room temp, and you seem quite underpowered for crossfire.

asb2106
03-16-2008, 07:45 AM
coolers make alot of difference, as well as ambient room temp, and you seem quite underpowered for crossfire.

you know, Im thinkin Im having the same problem with power, check these and tell me if this would hold me back from OCing......
http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/voltages.jpg
if you look, all the voltages are low....

erocker
03-16-2008, 07:51 AM
well why do i have to use such high vcore to reach this clock though when a lot of you people are hitting 3.7 with like 1.4 stable

Just not enough on the good ol' 12V rail my man. Same goes for ASB.:)

asb2106
03-16-2008, 07:58 AM
Just not enough on the good ol' 12V rail my man. Same goes for ASB.:)

thats what I was thinkin!!!! damn, wish i wouldnt have sold my PC P & C, I was doing 3.84 3.9 pretty easily before, now just 3.73, and that requires way to much volts!!!!

Thanks erocker!
oh and check out the 9600x3870 comparison, I have updated it with the XP for the 9600

Wile E
03-16-2008, 08:15 AM
is it possible i got a bad q6600?

i just find it odd how so manyo others can clock to 3.8+ on low volts when mine is 3.66 @ 1.5.

could it be my board also?
No, you got what seems to be a roughly average Q6600. My Q6600 was almost identical for OCing.

ThatGuy16
03-16-2008, 08:19 AM
Just not enough on the good ol' 12V rail my man. Same goes for ASB.:)

You think thats bad

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/everestjpg.jpg

That can't be right :roll: