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ThatGuy16
03-16-2008, 06:54 PM
i thought the corsair was a strong psu though....oh well. i got a quad at 3.66 so thats pretty good.

Next is the vmod for the 3870 so i can hit 900mhz core :D

nice, can't wait to see the results :toast:
@thatguy
I think the problem with yours is that it recognizes different voltages for the proper one. Everest has issues with Mobos sometimes, did you get any warnings of incompatibility when you started Everest?

Your ds4 might just be too new for it as of now....

haha, yeah i got that warning :p

erocker
03-16-2008, 07:48 PM
I finally got this board and cpu figured out! This isn't the limit of them either. (It was the FSB voltage the whole time:cool:) My next run, I will try do do over 4.2ghz, and the good ol' pencil mod to the 3850. :)

11,891 Marks.:D

freaksavior
03-16-2008, 08:11 PM
WoAH!! i just noticed this got a sticky!! Woot!

erocker
03-16-2008, 08:14 PM
It's a good popular thread, full of useful info. and a fine complilation to boot.:toast:

thequestor
03-17-2008, 12:46 AM
Warning: Long post, 6 big images. Be considerate if you quote!

The following are 5 benchmarks I ran on XP SP3 and Vista SP1.

1st is XP with Cat 8.2 and the 2nd is XP with Cat 8.3. CLEARLY shows about a 4000 drop in score.

3rd is Vista with Cat 8.3 just the HD 3870.

4th is Vista with Cat 8.3 just the X2

5th is Vista with Cat 8.3 both the X2 and 3870 in CrossfireX

6th is Vista with Cat 8.2 on the X2

7th is Vista with Cat 8.2 on the 3870

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/XP-clean-sp3-3DMarks-8.2-3780x2-Default-CCC-17459293.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/XP-clean-sp3-3DMarks-UG-8.3-3780-Default-CCC-13325.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/Vista-clean-sp1-3DMarks-8.3-3780-Default-CCC-12056.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/Vista-clean-sp1-3DMarks-8.3-3780x2-Default-CCC-17569.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/Vista-clean-sp1-3DMarks-8.3-3780x2_3870-CrossfireX-Default-CCC-19033.jpg

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12918&stc=1&d=1205961947


http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12919&stc=1&d=1205962111
---- More to come Will edit again to insert images once i figure it out :(

asb2106
03-17-2008, 01:29 AM
WoAH!! i just noticed this got a sticky!! Woot!

congrats freak! - well deserved

mnm222876
03-17-2008, 04:29 AM
Looks like OC'ing my CPU could help me a lot.

I wish I knew how to OC... I think I am CPU bottleneckd. I'm nursing an ancient system but would like to make it last a little longer before I build a new Vista system. I only got a 8229 in 3dMark06. Here's my GPUZ and CPUZ screenshots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/mnm222876/GPUZCPUZ.jpg

Are there any experienced OverClockers out there willing to help me out (via email or phone) and teach me a little about how to OC my system?

freaksavior
03-17-2008, 04:33 AM
also need a pic of the 3dmark score.

oc a amd i have no idea. but you my friend are right, you should be able to hit 10k

kup
03-17-2008, 04:37 AM
Send me a PM with a list of your hardware and I'll see what I can do in the way of guides and stuff for you.

CPU/Mobo/Ram/GFX/HDD/PSU/Case/Cooling

EDIT: Sorry, I see the model number and stuff in the pics but send me a slightly more detailed list if you could?

erocker
03-17-2008, 05:28 AM
Looks like OC'ing my CPU could help me a lot.

I wish I knew how to OC... I think I am CPU bottleneckd. I'm nursing an ancient system but would like to make it last a little longer before I build a new Vista system. I only got a 8229 in 3dMark06. Here's my GPUZ and CPUZ screenshots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/mnm222876/GPUZCPUZ.jpg

Are there any experienced OverClockers out there willing to help me out (via email or phone) and teach me a little about how to OC my system?

Absolutely, but I'm afraid you're quite limited by your PSU. 250Watts will run your system, but overclocking with it probablly won't be worth the trouble. But for a small bump, just get into your bios and bump up the fsb or ht link to 210 from 200 to start with. Hopefully your PSU can handle that, but I'd say it's borderline.

freaksavior
03-17-2008, 05:31 AM
i just want to clairfy something ( and i know we really are already doing this) but i just want people to know, if it has ANYTHING to do with the 3xxx series cards then please, please ask as that is one of the MANY reasons for this thread. Since the card is so cheap, yet so great performance then as erocker said, this thread has a lot of usefull info and the more info the better it becomes, so if you got a question related to 3xxx cards in anyway please post your question.


edit:

going to post this in the first post with the scores.

edit #2: Erocker could you change the thread title again to something like this (you can change it to be more fitting if you wish)

HD 3K Reference, Support, and 3dmark score page

also one more thing, i would like to start putting links in the first post about the mods and just general info about the card.

example, RM vmod thread.

freaksavior
03-17-2008, 05:37 AM
sorry for double posting but i edited my post added info.

mnm222876
03-17-2008, 05:43 AM
Absolutely, but I'm afraid you're quite limited by your PSU. 250Watts will run your system, but overclocking with it probablly won't be worth the trouble. But for a small bump, just get into your bios and bump up the fsb or ht link to 210 from 200 to start with. Hopefully your PSU can handle that, but I'd say it's borderline.

My total power consumption at idle is 120 W and at full load (virus scan, superPi, DVD encoding, and 3d game running at 2650x1600 resolution all running at once) is 210 W. Measuments taken by a Kill A Watt. Plus the Shuttle PSU's are server PSU's so they are quite robust from what I've heard.

My full system specs:

-Shuttle SFF SN95G5 version 2
-nVidia nForce 3 250 chipset
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 939 San Diego core
-OCZ 2GB (1GB x 2) DDR 400 Platinum Rev 2 Cas 2
-Sapphire HD 3850 AGP (using Sapphires most up to date Hotfix drivers)
-WD 10K rpm 74GB Raptor HDD
-Seagate 750GB HDD
-DVD/CD
-stock Shuttle 250 W PSU (full system draw at full load is 210 W measured with a Kill A Watt)
-using onboard sound
-all stock speeds, voltages, and air cooling
-Dell 30" 2650x1600 LCD
-Windows XP Pro SP2 updated
-BIOS and chipset driver most current

I know my way around the BIOS a little bit but have not had the balls to experiment with the volt and speed settings. The only OC experience I have is using ATi Tool to OC the GPU core/memory on previous video cards but ATi Tool doesn't support the 3850 AGP yet. I would like to OC both the CPU and GPU to as much as I can with air cooling, but I'm a total noob at that stuff.

erocker
03-17-2008, 05:47 AM
The thing is, once you start overclocking the wattage needed shoots straight up, which will just hinder performance. Try this guide first. :http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=22547

mnm222876
03-17-2008, 06:08 AM
also need a pic of the 3dmark score.

oc a amd i have no idea. but you my friend are right, you should be able to hit 10k

Sorry, here's my do over on the screenshots.

Future mark calls my video card "Generic VGA". LOL! That's sad. I guess they figured no one in their right mind would actually buy a 3850 AGP.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/mnm222876/3dMark06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/mnm222876/GPUZCPUZ.jpg

ThatGuy16
03-17-2008, 06:15 AM
You could try the 8.2 drivers, i see alot of people having problems with 8.3 is windows XP.

But with some mild overclocking you should be able to hit 9k. The max i could get with a X2 5600+ 3ghz and a single 3870 at 860/1200 was 10.5k 3dmarks.

That scores seems pretty good for your settup.

erocker
03-17-2008, 06:20 AM
Be sure you are using the latest 3d06 patch.

Steevo
03-17-2008, 06:20 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5787689

9574
http://img.techpowerup.org/080317/3d.jpg

8.3 Cats. 855Mhz Core 1201 Memory Stock Cooling.

mnm222876
03-17-2008, 06:21 AM
You could try the 8.2 drivers, i see alot of people having problems with 8.3 is windows XP.

But with some mild overclocking you should be able to hit 9k. The max i could get with a X2 5600+ 3ghz and a single 3870 at 860/1200 was 10.5k 3dmarks.

That scores seems pretty good for your settup.

I couldn't get any of the ATi standard drivers to install at all. Kept getting error messages about "You don't have the correct hardware installed to use this driver. Exiting setup..." Blah Blah Blah... The only drivers that would install are the Hotfix drivers on Sapphires website.

Steevo
03-17-2008, 06:22 AM
Got my case and power info wrong on the 3D mark page, I will correct it.

erocker
03-17-2008, 06:22 AM
I couldn't get any of the ATi standard drivers to install at all. Kept getting error messages about "You don't have the correct hardware installed to use this driver. Exiting setup..." Blah Blah Blah... The only drivers that would install are the Hotfix drivers on Sapphires website.

Have you checked in the Device Manager to make sure that all your drivers are in order?

mnm222876
03-17-2008, 06:47 AM
Have you checked in the Device Manager to make sure that all your drivers are in order?

I don't have any Exclamation marks on the Device Manager window if that's what you mean. I always do a thorough job of uninstalling all the video card drivers, then use Driver Cleaner, then use CCleaner, etc. before installing new ones.

I submitted a ticket about it to AMD/ATi and their response was to use Sapphires specific drivers for the card because it was a Sapphire product and they (ATi) weren't releasing an AGP version of the 3850 so their driver wasn't optimised for it. Hence, the Sapphire AGP Hotfix driver...

erocker
03-17-2008, 08:11 AM
Got my case and power info wrong on the 3D mark page, I will correct it.

How did you get overdrive to give you such high clocks? Vmod?

Steevo
03-17-2008, 03:10 PM
Dunno, but me memory freaks out over 1210 or so, I get artifacting. BUt I have the 860 limiting BIOS. Anythign more than 859 makes it go to green and I have to do a hard shutdown.

trog100
03-17-2008, 07:23 PM
Dunno, but me memory freaks out over 1210 or so, I get artifacting. BUt I have the 860 limiting BIOS. Anythign more than 859 makes it go to green and I have to do a hard shutdown.

if u think your card will run at 872.. jump from 860 straight to 872.. they say it avoids the 862 bios clock error..

at 862 the clock makes its next jump of 7 or so mhz (should do) u dont get what u see in the CCC.. between 862 and 871 u hit the same error pll error..

at 872 u jump past it..

the error is said not to be over 862 simple at 862.. try it.. no guarantee the card will run there but it should miss the timing error..

if u run the rivatuner monitor u will see the actual speed the card runs at.. the later jumps in 13 mhz jumps and misses the 862 error.. or so i read.. he he

if the logic is correct the early bios jumps in 6 mhz jumps and hits the pll error.. the later bios simply by useing bigger jumps misses it.. with the later bios u need to move the CCC 13 points before the clocks alters.. then whoosh its 13 mhz higher.. in between nothing happens..

the early bios is more adjustable.. smaller jumps but hits the pll error..

trog

erocker
03-17-2008, 07:31 PM
Could some one give me some help/info. on how to flash my bios to the higher clocked version?:) I haven't done anything like that since my old X800gto.

freaksavior
03-17-2008, 07:43 PM
Could some one give me some help/info. on how to flash my bios to the higher clocked version?:) I haven't done anything like that since my old X800gto.

http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/17/37/

thats what i did.

are there any more? i need to put that in the first post.

asb2106
03-17-2008, 07:52 PM
hey freak, sorry I wont be able to do any updates this week. I am buried in work and I will be in Chicago away from my computer :( But friday I should be back :)

trog100
03-17-2008, 07:54 PM
the winflash of this site works perfectly.. just load the bios (i put it in the same folder as the winflash) press the go button and wait two minutes.. its says job done.. reboot machine..

i must have used it thirty odd times without the slightest problem.. make sure your machine is stable before doing it thow.. if the machine crashes halfway thru the flash will fail..

windows bios flashes go wrong cos people do them with overclocked unstable machines..

trog

Steevo
03-17-2008, 08:10 PM
if u think your card will run at 872.. jump from 860 straight to 872.. they say it avoids the 862 bios clock error..

at 862 the clock makes its next jump of 7 or so mhz (should do) u dont get what u see in the CCC.. between 862 and 871 u hit the same error pll error..

at 872 u jump past it..

the error is said not to be over 862 simple at 862.. try it.. no guarantee the card will run there but it should miss the timing error..

if u run the rivatuner monitor u will see the actual speed the card runs at.. the later jumps in 13 mhz jumps and misses the 862 error.. or so i read.. he he

if the logic is correct the early bios jumps in 6 mhz jumps and hits the pll error.. the later bios simply by useing bigger jumps misses it.. with the later bios u need to move the CCC 13 points before the clocks alters.. then whoosh its 13 mhz higher.. in between nothing happens..

the early bios is more adjustable.. smaller jumps but hits the pll error..

trog

I will try tonight, or just flash the new BIOS.

trog100
03-17-2008, 08:35 PM
I will try tonight, or just flash the new BIOS.

there is a downside to the newer bios.. those 13 mhz jumps.. your card might well run at the in between speed but u cant use it.. its 823.. 837.. 850 then 863.. then 876.. not ideal.. smaller jumps are better..

i think if the jump to 872 dosnt work the newer bios is negative unless u intend to volt mod.. below the hole the older bios is far more adjustable and is the better bios..

trog

erocker
03-17-2008, 09:02 PM
the winflash of this site works perfectly.. just load the bios (i put it in the same folder as the winflash) press the go button and wait two minutes.. its says job done.. reboot machine..

i must have used it thirty odd times without the slightest problem.. make sure your machine is stable before doing it thow.. if the machine crashes halfway thru the flash will fail..

windows bios flashes go wrong cos people do them with overclocked unstable machines..

trog

Cool, the program seems simple enough. Now which bios should I use and where to get it? And can I backup my current bios with winflash?

entilza
03-17-2008, 09:17 PM
Save your current BIOS using the latest GPU-Z, when you load it up there is a little green arrow button next to your bios version which you can use to save your current BIOS.

Use the Tech Forums GPU Database and see which is the latest version or whichever version you want to use for your specific card.

erocker
03-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Thanks, I got it the flash to work correctly. Everything is good!:toast:

DOM
03-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Warning: Long post, 6 big images. Be considerate if you quote!

The following are 5 benchmarks I ran on XP SP3 and Vista SP1.

1st is XP with Cat 8.2 and the 2nd is XP with Cat 8.3. CLEARLY shows about a 4000 drop in score.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080316/XP-clean-sp3-3DMarks-UG-8.3-3780-Default-CCC-13325.jpg


Is that with the X2 if so did you notice its only with one core it seems cuz its showing in GPU-z its a 3780 not 3780X2 like in the 1st pic

Steevo
03-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I was using XP SP3 and had no difference in score. No big difference in score from 7.12 drivers to 8.3 either, I just was hoping GTA would work.

erocker
03-17-2008, 10:43 PM
So, I'm able to take my GPU core anywhere I want now, stupid me forgot to write down his bios settings at 4.2ghz on his CPU.:banghead: Damn complicated Maximus.

WarhammerTX
03-18-2008, 12:41 AM
Well this how I faired I oc the vid card to 880 core and memory to 1050 I am running a e6700 at stock speed @ 2.66 due to I have a dell and it will not let me oc the cpu. I dont think this is too bad considering its a dell.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u10/warhammertx/asd.jpg

ghost101
03-18-2008, 12:45 AM
Well this how I faired I oc the vid card to 880 core and memory to 1050 I am running a e6700 at stock speed @ 2.66 due to I have a dell and it will not let me oc the cpu. I dont think this is too bad considering its a dell.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u10/warhammertx/asd.jpg

Your SM2 and SM3 scores are only very slightly below mine. The score is good considering the cpu clock speed. Add 2000 to the cpu score, and youd push 12.5k.

WarhammerTX
03-18-2008, 12:51 AM
I wish there was a way to OC this stinkin dell machine

xkm1948
03-18-2008, 03:48 AM
My system:

Windows XP SP2
Catalyst 7.12

Q6600 OC 3.6GHz(400X9)
ZALMAN 9700CNPS
GSKill DDR2-1066 2GBX2
ASUS Maximus Formula
HIS 3870(862/2700)
ST 7200.11 500GB
Thermaltake Armor
Antec TP3-550W
SAMSUNG 226BW


I think I've already pushed my computer to its limit.


http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh299/xkm121/3DMark06-OC.jpg

Ati Addictive
03-18-2008, 11:04 AM
Bad score man with a Q6600 on 3.6! with my Phenom at 2.3 GHZ i get a score of 12 400 and i still need 2 overclock it :laugh: but still who needs benchmarking when games are working just fine!

thequestor
03-18-2008, 06:48 PM
Is that with the X2 if so did you notice its only with one core it seems cuz its showing in GPU-z its a 3780 not 3780X2 like in the 1st pic

I just forgot to use the dropdown and select the X2 :(

asb2106
03-19-2008, 02:29 AM
GOT MY TAXES BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ill be buying the parts soon!
i cant this week though, I have been working 12-14 hour days and I cant make it to the bank to drop off the check, so I think Im gonna deposit it on friday(get the day off paid!) and order the parts then. I hate ordering parts on friday, have to wait so long.

I have heard that the rampage formula was supposed to be posted at newegg over the weekend!!!!!!! And its not :( anyone have idea on when its gonna be released??

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 04:10 AM
did my vmod.

it still sucks

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 05:46 AM
killed my diamond card. got his working at 1.4v 900 core

sneekypeet
03-19-2008, 05:54 AM
killed my diamond card. got his working at 1.4v 900 core

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....sorry bout the bad luck Freak!!!!!:(

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 05:55 AM
im just now praying that diamond will issue an rma...i hope so.

i rubbed the contacts off the resister....do you think i can get it replaced with an rma?

xkm1948
03-19-2008, 06:43 AM
Hey! Why don't you guys change the result? My score is clearly higher!!!!

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 07:20 AM
Hey! Why don't you guys change the result? My score is clearly higher!!!!

dude, chill. you posted it like 1 day ago. it will get updated.

xkm1948
03-19-2008, 07:25 AM
dude, chill. you posted it like 1 day ago. it will get updated.

Sorry man:cool:

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 05:33 PM
ok, so weird issue....

when i start 3dmark06 and i have my card oc'd it crashes immediately.

if the card is stock, it runs fine.

I did the vmod to the card and its running at 1.41 so there should be enough volts running through it.

using ccc 8.2

got any ideas?

ghost101
03-19-2008, 09:24 PM
Dont think 1.41v is enough for 900mhz stable.

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 09:26 PM
what about 810?

sneekypeet
03-19-2008, 09:30 PM
have you got the update to 06 installed?
I had a wierd issue with my last HD3870 that in order to run 06 successfully I had to patch it prior to every run!


http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/869/.html

Dr. Spankenstein
03-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Is that the speed you're running when 3DM06 crashes?

Do you really thing you killed the Diamond? DanishDevil brought his back after I suggested he give it a thorough wipedown with isopropyl. It's all that darn graphite dust that got redistibuted after you were frantically shading.:p

Something is not right. Do you have something like ATITool or rthdrbl to start the 3d clocks and measure the voltages and check temps again. Sounds like something is getting too hot/too much voltage.

freaksavior
03-19-2008, 09:52 PM
yeah, i got some caned air and tunred it upside down so the alcohol liquid sprayed right on the pencil mod and then let it dry and then right side up and just air, stuck it back in and nothing.

gerrynicol
03-20-2008, 03:14 PM
Got my new mobo and chip this week, this is the first test at 3.6Ghz. Still playing around with the settings.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5839700

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Gerrynicol/new.jpg

gerrynicol
03-20-2008, 06:11 PM
Sorry for the double post,

My supposed 1066 RAM will not run past 844, windows won't boot :shadedshu

Proc at 3.8 gfx @ 865core and1387RAM

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5842418

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/Gerrynicol/new-1.jpg

freaksavior
03-20-2008, 06:39 PM
ok so ive got my proc at 3.8 @ 1.53 v..i think im safe there, no crashes with the proc.

If i oc the card AT ALL it crashes, heck stock it crashes. is this possible because of the vmod?

freaksavior
03-20-2008, 07:33 PM
OK!!! so i a at 1.45 v on the grfx card and EVERY 3d intensive app crashes it.

why :cry:

zaqwsx
03-20-2008, 09:36 PM
This is my score with my new card and my phenom @ 2.8ghz on air going to try 3.0ghz next also I have xp home running tell me what you think!!

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7413/3dmark06score28ghzkn3.th.jpg (http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dmark06score28ghzkn3.jpg)

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7413/3dmark06score28ghzkn3.jpg

DanishDevil
03-20-2008, 09:37 PM
That image is the size of my thumb...

zaqwsx
03-20-2008, 09:44 PM
That image is the size of my thumb...

I fixed it it should be fine know, if not tell me so i can fix it again! :toast:

thequestor
03-20-2008, 09:45 PM
Sorry for the double post,

My supposed 1066 RAM will not run past 844, windows won't boot :shadedshu

Proc at 3.8 gfx @ 865core and1387RAM



I'm running into the same issue, 1066 ram that freaks out running over 965mhz :(

System posts fine, but windows borks :(

Dr. Spankenstein
03-20-2008, 10:08 PM
OK!!! so i a at 1.45 v on the grfx card and EVERY 3d intensive app crashes it.

why :cry:


Check your BIOS settings. Do you have any of the "Performance" or "Graphics" settings on "Turbo" or "Extreme"? I the PIC-e locked @ 100 or are you boosting that frequency?

freaksavior
03-20-2008, 10:09 PM
the pci-e frequency is at 115. ive put it at 100, 105, 110, and 115 and they all do it.

I think i messed this card up as well.

Morgoth
03-20-2008, 10:15 PM
here is mine
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2508/naamloos2ys1.jpg

Dr. Spankenstein
03-20-2008, 10:25 PM
the pci-e frequency is at 115. ive put it at 100, 105, 110, and 115 and they all do it.

I think i messed this card up as well.

Something seems to be flipping out when the 3D clocks/volts kick in. There are so many variables at this point: BIOS flash, pencil-mod, mobo settings (including flash to Rampage).
If you were truly concerned about finding the issue, you would have to reset you mobo BIOS to defaults, flash you card back to original BIOS and wipe your resistor.

You've invested too much time and created so much frustration trying to "hit the ground running". Start from scratch and I'll bet it will work out.

Maybe I've just got a different style, but if I were trying to test the stability of a new VGA BIOS and a volt-mod, I wouldn't have my PCI-e frequency at 115...

I would also have my mobo reset to "optimum defaults".

Not ragging, just sayin'...

Edito
03-20-2008, 10:43 PM
Here my results if i can get better than this with my system please let me know....

freaksavior
03-20-2008, 10:49 PM
Something seems to be flipping out when the 3D clocks/volts kick in. There are so many variables at this point: BIOS flash, pencil-mod, mobo settings (including flash to Rampage).
If you were truly concerned about finding the issue, you would have to reset you mobo BIOS to defaults, flash you card back to original BIOS and wipe your resistor.

You've invested too much time and created so much frustration trying to "hit the ground running". Start from scratch and I'll bet it will work out.

Maybe I've just got a different style, but if I were trying to test the stability of a new VGA BIOS and a volt-mod, I wouldn't have my PCI-e frequency at 115...

I would also have my mobo reset to "optimum defaults".

Not ragging, just sayin'...

so what are you suggestion?

should i set it all back to default? including the pencil mod?

erocker
03-20-2008, 10:51 PM
Are there any jumpers on your cards? I remember reading something about jumper placement and scores.

freaksavior
03-20-2008, 10:56 PM
Here my results if i can get better than this with my system please let me know....

Your running a 7950gt?

@ erocker....what?

Morgoth
03-20-2008, 11:00 PM
my card got a jumper

sneekypeet
03-20-2008, 11:11 PM
@ erocker....what?

AGREED +1 what is this jumper thing about....linky please?:)

zaqwsx
03-21-2008, 12:48 AM
Hey Freaksavior if you don't mind could you update my score. Thanks :toast:! I'm using XP Home.

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7413/3dmark06score28ghzkn3.jpg

freaksavior
03-21-2008, 12:52 AM
i guess im going to have to fire asb2106.

I'll try to update this when i get home or tomorrow.

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 01:04 AM
BTW check out the usage of the postcount!!!!!!

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5848960&resultType=14

Looks like I move up a spot! SS was enabled so thats why the 6X multi.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080320/3D06_12841_3.6GHz.jpg

zaqwsx
03-21-2008, 01:15 AM
@ sneekypeet. What do you score for your cpu on 06?

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 01:18 AM
@ sneekypeet. What do you score for your cpu on 06?

CPU score is: 3176 Does the orb link not work?

zaqwsx
03-21-2008, 01:28 AM
CPU score is: 3176 Does the orb link not work?

Opps didn't see that. Thanks lol! :toast:

gerrynicol
03-21-2008, 01:37 AM
I'm running into the same issue, 1066 ram that freaks out running over 965mhz :(

System posts fine, but windows borks :(

Same here passes POST but craps out when loading windows. I mailed crucial but no reply as of yet. I done some reading on the web and found that they are using 800Mhz ram with loose timings and increased voltage to get 1066Mhz. pretty crappy if you ask me when they don't run as advertised.:shadedshu

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 01:51 AM
http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5849529&resultType=14

New run at 3.7GHz it needs to get cold here quick!!!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/080320/3D06_12969_3.7GHz.jpg

GLD
03-21-2008, 02:18 AM
I just put a AC Accelero S1 v.2 on my card last night. Zipp tied 2 80mm AC fans powered on a Zalman 4 way (2Hi/2Lo) molex adapter on the low plugs. OMG! I can actually run Overdrive on my card now! It runs as cool on load now as it did at idle before. And that is cranked to the max of 720 core, 950 memory! :rockout: OD would bomb out and hard lock my rig with stock cooling. :shadedshu

I ran 3D Mark 06 after the cooler install at 720/950, with the rest of the system the same as my specs. and got 9750. :rockout: That makes me happy.

The moral of this story is two fold. 1st: I need to take screenies damnit! and 2nd: AC Accelero S1 v.2 is the schit! :respect:

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 03:44 AM
Almost got to 13,000 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5850564) but I forgot to get the screenie with all the other info...ah well I guess the windows come open this weekend!:laugh:

asb2106
03-21-2008, 04:33 AM
i guess im going to have to fire asb2106.

I'll try to update this when i get home or tomorrow.

didnt you get my message on monday, I am over worked right now, and I havent had even 10 minutes I could spend on it. I am down in Chicago this week for a Trade Show(global shop - retial fixture show) and the only computer I can use is my 13.3 protable laptop, and I really couldnt do much good updating on that !!

However, I am gonna be back friday night, so I will promise that I will spend time on it and have you an update sometime friday night!!!!!!

SORRY ALL!! FRIDAY NIGHT UPDATE - 24hours from now

freaksavior
03-21-2008, 04:38 AM
dude, it was a joke, its cool.

asb2106
03-21-2008, 04:38 AM
the pci-e frequency is at 115. ive put it at 100, 105, 110, and 115 and they all do it.

I think i messed this card up as well.

I used to push my PCIe bus, but i realized it really gives no performance. If it does, its minimal. To be nice to my HD's and other things on my southbridge, I always lock my bus at 100 and 33.3

IT seems to work really well. In terms of your card, thats really a bummer, like Dr S said, I would flash your bios back, and revert everything to stock, just to see if it works. If thats not the problem, just reload the settings that you currently have. I dont see it being the magical fix, but who knows, it could be the problem..... GL

freaksavior
03-21-2008, 04:40 AM
well i reset my bios and the his card hasn't been flashed.

i aprently don't have rubbing alcohol so when i get that i'll wipe my card down..

asb2106
03-21-2008, 04:41 AM
dude, it was a joke, its cool.

cool man, I was under that impression myself.

Just letting u know when i can. This week has been crazy, up at 4am and up to midnight everynight since monday, I am toast. - and getting a little looney! This week has been rough on me

good luck on your card man, i know the feeling at it absolutely sucks, beyond belief.

asb2106
03-21-2008, 04:43 AM
well i reset my bios and the his card hasn't been flashed.

i aprently don't have rubbing alcohol so when i get that i'll wipe my card down..

I used a soft eraser, it removed it, but then I went to test my voltage with a MM and thats when my card bit the dust.

I hate to say it, but I dont see you reviving that. You should just clean it up real good, request a RMA and see if they can crossship. You could have a new card by next wednesday.

freaksavior
03-21-2008, 04:52 AM
should i go rma from his or newegg?

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 04:55 AM
Try the egg first then you get to start the warranty all over with a new registration!

freaksavior
03-21-2008, 04:57 AM
i haven't even registered the his yet. I got to wait till the diamond gets back or my comp will be dead, i just bought a New D-link Router (http://games.dlink.com/products/?pid=643&#DGL-4500) and i got it for $70 :D

sneekypeet
03-21-2008, 05:28 AM
I knew I could get there tonight....yay me 13K (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5851625) !!!!!!


http://img.techpowerup.org/080321/3D06_13017_3.75GHz_920_1386.jpg

Wile E
03-21-2008, 07:00 AM
Im running a 7950GT @ 610 for the core and 790 For the mem and im using 2GB DDR 667 @ 5.5.5.15 CPU E4300 Running @ 3.0Ghz

He questioned you, because you are in a thread dedicated to just the ATI HD 3000 series.

You probably want this thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995

Wile E
03-21-2008, 07:08 AM
Sorry :-( really sorry, i don't know how can i delete my post if anyone here can please it wasen't my intention to perturb ur thread sorry for the post...

Don't worry about it. You just caught them off guard. lol. Nobody is upset at you at all. lol.

Edito
03-21-2008, 07:10 AM
Better for me :-) thanx for the warnning...

Morgoth
03-21-2008, 06:38 PM
Plz update score list

zaqwsx
03-21-2008, 08:44 PM
New score Phenom @ 2.8Ghz, GPU @ 850Mhz 1247Mhz. Using XP Home

ORB LINK: http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5860970&resultType=14

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6696/3dmark06cpu28ghzgpu850mvu4.jpg

freaksavior
03-22-2008, 01:25 AM
i started to work on it before i left for work.

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 01:28 AM
Freak, What's the scoop on your cards, man?

freaksavior
03-22-2008, 01:50 AM
Freak, What's the scoop on your cards, man?

I don't have any rubbing alcohol atm.

The diamond is in the rma process and should get back in about 2 weeks. if the rub down doesn't fix my 3d app problem the HIS is getting shipped back to newegg for a replacement and as far as im concered it was defective ;)

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 01:58 AM
That's the story I'm sticking with too.;)

If anyone is old enough to remember "Hogan's Heros", the quote I'm thinking of is:"I know nothing, I know no-thing!" Schultz, he was classic!

BATOFF
03-22-2008, 02:08 AM
My highest overclock so far on both cpu and gpu. Q6600 @ 3.7 3780 CF @ 860/1301 - 3D06= 17915
Trying to compress a pic so I can upload it. Orb link http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5868842

sneekypeet
03-22-2008, 09:13 AM
well I couldnt run 4.0GHz with 06....but get a good look at those loaded with ATItool temps in Coretemp! Ohio Winters FTW!!!!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/080322/3D06_13138_3.9GHz_920_1386.jpg

ORB (http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5872487&resultType=14)

REVHEAD
03-22-2008, 09:53 AM
New score Phenom @ 2.8Ghz, GPU @ 850Mhz 1247Mhz. Using XP Home

ORB LINK: http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=5860970&resultType=14

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6696/3dmark06cpu28ghzgpu850mvu4.jpg

Can you overclock your cpu? this will really boost your scores ,I feel the CPU is bottlenecking the card.

zaqwsx
03-22-2008, 04:57 PM
I did went from 2.3 to 2.8 ghz. I tried 2.9 with a .0125v increase but it wont run stable. Also I uped it another .0125 and it just shuts down. But I want to reach 3.0ghz and what might be stoping me is heat issues probebly. So im doing water cooling once the weather warms up in NY I can get to work I have all the parts all I need is a new water block!

Edit: And for some reason in 3dmark06 it wont read my cpu at 2.8 it reads it at normal speeds 2.3. IDK why. But my cpu scores are diffrent from stock when oc'ed

trog100
03-22-2008, 05:24 PM
i would think most phenom owners would love to reach 3 gig.. :D

trog

mep916
03-22-2008, 05:27 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff227/mep916/ScreenShot016.jpg

Does anyone know why GPU-Z is detecting the incorrect clock speeds? :banghead:

zaqwsx
03-22-2008, 05:39 PM
i would think most phenom owners would love to reach 3 gig.. :D

trog

True lol!! :toast:

nflesher87
03-22-2008, 07:12 PM
no 3850 crossfire results yet?

sneekypeet
03-22-2008, 07:15 PM
no 3850 crossfire results yet?

We were waiting for you to show us how its done:p.....j/k.

freaksavior
03-22-2008, 07:34 PM
Well this how I faired I oc the vid card to 880 core and memory to 1050 I am running a e6700 at stock speed @ 2.66 due to I have a dell and it will not let me oc the cpu. I dont think this is too bad considering its a dell.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u10/warhammertx/asd.jpg

in the process of updating it.

Need a cpu-z and gpu-z

freaksavior
03-22-2008, 08:18 PM
updated....go over it when you get a chance and confirm if its correct

@ WarhammerTX amd REVHEAD

I need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z i have no idae what vcards you have so i can't put you in the list

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 09:28 PM
well I couldnt run 4.0GHz with 06....but get a good look at those loaded with ATItool temps in Coretemp! Ohio Winters FTW!!!!!!

ORB (http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5872487&resultType=14)

Sir, you are a f'ing rockstar!!!:respect::rockout:

sneekypeet
03-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Sir, you are a f'ing rockstar!!!:respect::rockout:

I want to add just a bit more pencil to the HD3870 see if I can get the core stable at ~950....we shall see!!!!:D

And that was all based on the ancient Ohio Secret....I had my cores at 9 & 10*c idle before that run.

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 09:54 PM
4GHz E6400 @ 10C idle 40c load on air! Now THAT'S what I'm talkin 'bout!

Got to feel pretty stoked about that!

Your secret is safe, sneeky-san!:cool:

sneekypeet
03-22-2008, 09:57 PM
4GHz E6400 @ 10C idle 40c load on air! Now THAT'S what I'm talkin 'bout!

Got to feel pretty stoked about that!

Your secret is safe, sneeky-san!:cool:

sorry to dissapoint I couldnt get 4.0GHz stable...that was a run at 3.9GHz.

No matter how much juice , even up to 1.725V it wouldnt run 06 so I gave up on it!

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 10:01 PM
My bad. I thought you had it to 4GHz, just couldn't make it through an '06 run.

Cheers anyway! Great score!!!

Megasty
03-22-2008, 10:11 PM
Here's my tri-fire with the 3870x2 & 3870 all stock. I thought I could get it over 20k with the Q6600@3.6 but no dice.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080322/19806.jpg

trog100
03-22-2008, 10:59 PM
Here's my tri-fire with the 3870x2 & 3870 all stock. I thought I could get it over 20k with the Q6600@3.6 but no dice.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080322/19806.jpg

the 2006 bench is now pretty much cpu speed governed.. adding more gpu cores wont gain much..

trog

Morgoth
03-22-2008, 11:02 PM
@freaksavior
why havent you added me to the list?

em its XP not vista

Megasty
03-22-2008, 11:07 PM
the 2006 bench is now pretty much cpu speed governed.. adding more gpu cores wont gain much..

trog

Yeah, I know. I can get it over 20k @ 3.64 but I was trying to push 3.6 to the limit :laugh:

freaksavior
03-22-2008, 11:25 PM
@freaksavior
why havent you added me to the list?

whoops, i put another guys name down.

I missed some one in the list...im gonna have to double check this.

Morgoth
03-22-2008, 11:26 PM
i am using xp not vista

Dr. Spankenstein
03-22-2008, 11:34 PM
Cool your jets, man! He said he'd fix it!
...or are you just going for your 1000th post. ;)

kylew
03-23-2008, 03:47 AM
Here's my tri-fire with the 3870x2 & 3870 all stock. I thought I could get it over 20k with the Q6600@3.6 but no dice.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080322/19806.jpg

I'm gonna be going tri-fire in the next few days :D I'm hoping to break 20k myself, currently a 19700 :rolleyes: :D

Megasty
03-23-2008, 04:15 AM
WOOT! 20k...after I installed sp1 on this rig & killed the gd windows sidebar :rockout:

freaksavior
03-23-2008, 05:19 AM
http://i30.tinypic.com/x28pe9.jpg

my score at my max resolution =)

could you rerun it at stock plz?

freaksavior
03-23-2008, 05:32 AM
Just updated it again.

peace...its 11:30, time to go to sleep.

nflesher87
03-24-2008, 02:05 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080323/06-10564.jpg
Not bad for an E2200 eh? For some reason mine hits a brick wall past ~3.0GHz and I mean brick wall! doesn't matter what FSB or multi I use!

freaksavior
03-24-2008, 02:08 AM
actually no nflesher87, not bad at all

Wile E
03-24-2008, 04:20 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080323/06-10564.jpg
Not bad for an E2200 eh? For some reason mine hits a brick wall past ~3.0GHz and I mean brick wall! doesn't matter what FSB or multi I use!
Feed it 1.4V (or just lower the multi), and jump it to 333fsb. You may have hit a fsb hole.

nflesher87
03-24-2008, 05:40 AM
Feed it 1.4V (or just lower the multi), and jump it to 333fsb. You may have hit a fsb hole.

I wish it were that simple bro but as I mentioned above it makes no difference at all, I've tried a huge range of vcore (which is at stock at 3.0!) all the way to 1.5V+! that in conjunction with raising the NB voltage and lowering the ram speed/timings, also I've tried all the way down to a multi of 6 sequentially and no matter what multi or FSB is used I can't get it past...

Wile E
03-24-2008, 05:44 AM
I wish it were that simple bro but as I mentioned above it makes no difference at all, I've tried a huge range of vcore (which is at stock at 3.0!) all the way to 1.5V+! that in conjunction with raising the NB voltage and lowering the ram speed/timings, also I've tried all the way down to a multi of 6 sequentially and no matter what multi or FSB is used I can't get it past...
It's gotta be a setting somewhere. DFI's are notoriously finicky at times with settings. What fsb's have you tried beyond 300?

nflesher87
03-24-2008, 06:01 AM
It's gotta be a setting somewhere. DFI's are notoriously finicky at times with settings. What fsb's have you tried beyond 300?

multiple, 333 and greater, because I tried all the multi's from 11 down to 6 to see if I could get past 3.08 and no luck
however I can't remember attempting to skip 100 or so MHz in case it's just a hole

wizard23
03-24-2008, 10:47 AM
i thing my system is runing low 12.124 is the best scor i have ever get
the system is the one on the specs ...........

wizard23
03-24-2008, 10:53 AM
i tried catalyst 8.3 and it kills the crossfire mode ex. on crossfire mode withe 8.3 cat i get 7.450
withe crossfire mode off i get 9.880

freaksavior
03-24-2008, 03:14 PM
you should be able to hit 14 of 15k

trog100
03-24-2008, 05:29 PM
you should be able to hit 14 of 15k

not with a phenom.. unless he magically manages to clock the hell out of it.. they are just not 2006 animals..

trog

freaksavior
03-24-2008, 05:31 PM
not with a phenom.. unless he magically manages to clock the hell out of it.. they are just not 2006 animals..

trog

true, i didnt even look at the list

*13* 12071 - zaqwsx- Phenom @ 2.8ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1247 Mem - XP Home
*14* 11372 - jpierce55 - AMD phenom @ 2.4ghz 3870 @ 843 Core 1242 Mem

Thermopylae_480
03-24-2008, 10:44 PM
Pentium D earns me the lowest 3850 score, for dual cores. Yay!

freaksavior
03-24-2008, 10:45 PM
got a couple screenies?

MagnusLL
03-24-2008, 10:45 PM
Here's my result. PC has an E6750@3.6, Maximus Extreme, OCZ Platinum 1333@1440 6-6-6-18, Powercolor PCS 3870 pencil-modded @ 931.5,1251. 3dMark06 at 1280X1024, all options at default.


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7779/3dmark06nz6.jpg

asb2106
03-24-2008, 11:28 PM
FREAK!!!!!!!!!

I just ordered my parts - new gigabyte 3dmars case, rampage formula mobo, PC power cooling 750 PS, and 2 3870's!!!!!!

Ohh man Im gonna have some hella tests to run this weekend!

All parts will be in by friday!

Thermopylae_480
03-24-2008, 11:46 PM
got a couple screenies?

You want proof that my score is the worst? I can do that I suppose.

I hope you don't mind, but I cleaned up your code on the first thread. I think it looks a lot neater, and should be easier to edit. Got rid of a lot of the dead tags that were showing up.

nflesher87
03-25-2008, 12:44 AM
I hope you don't mind, but I cleaned up your code on the first thread. I think it looks a lot neater, and should be easier to edit. Got rid of a lot of the dead tags that were showing up.

much appreciated bro! I think the only remaining improvement could be that each line is a link to the post, or at least adding what post number it is for screenie reference, though that would be pretty difficult now

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 01:14 AM
FREAK!!!!!!!!!

I just ordered my parts - new gigabyte 3dmars case, rampage formula mobo, PC power cooling 750 PS, and 2 3870's!!!!!!

Ohh man Im gonna have some hella tests to run this weekend!

All parts will be in by friday!

I Better see results friday. good luck either way though. :toast:

Nitro-Max
03-25-2008, 01:28 AM
Some great results coming out now with tri-fire some are getting close to my score i aint dissapointed im excited about it really i aint really botherd about been top i just like to see what new hardware can do when its pushed although you should keep it safe no point killing stuff i reckon a good Q6700 oc with tri-fire would give great results.

Love this thread thanks to freaksavior too for running it.:toast:

P.S. Im planning tri-fire my self very soon i hope to up my gain a little 5 points off 24k was my only bug lol.

asb2106
03-25-2008, 01:53 AM
Love this thread thanks to freaksavior too for running it.:toast:


+1

asb2106
03-25-2008, 02:01 AM
much appreciated bro! I think the only remaining improvement could be that each line is a link to the post, or at least adding what post number it is for screenie reference, though that would be pretty difficult now

you know I was thinking the same thing, I see that being a full day's worth of work

Megasty
03-25-2008, 02:49 AM
Some great results coming out now with tri-fire some are getting close to my score i aint dissapointed im excited about it really i aint really botherd about been top i just like to see what new hardware can do when its pushed although you should keep it safe no point killing stuff i reckon a good Q6700 oc with tri-fire would give great results.

Love this thread thanks to freaksavior too for running it.:toast:

P.S. Im planning tri-fire my self very soon i hope to up my gain a little 5 points of 24k was my only bug lol.

I know the feeling all too well. I didn't expect my QX9650 to live pass 2 superclocks but it did 10!, now it won't even pass prime @ 4.2ghz. I can thank my buddies for that :rockout: I'm not going to even think of killing one of my quads just to get some 3dmks & tri-fire bottlenecks on 3dmk just like quad-fire but 20k @ 3.7 is a given.

Nitro-Max
03-25-2008, 03:01 AM
I know the feeling all too well. I didn't expect my QX9650 to live pass 2 superclocks but it did 10!, now it won't even pass prime @ 4.2ghz. I can thank my buddies for that :rockout: I'm not going to even think of killing one of my quads just to get some 3dmks & tri-fire bottlenecks on 3dmk just like quad-fire but 20k @ 3.7 is a given.

maximum respect for sharing this with us 29K is awsome dude But im really sorry to hear about the QX9650 thats a real bummer just hope people take note and always think about there OC and what impact it can have before just rushing into pushing stuff beyond stupid 3dmark aint worth killing things over.


thanks for this.

Megasty
03-25-2008, 03:22 AM
maximum respect for sharing this with us 29K is awsome dude But im really sorry to hear about the QX9650 thats a real bummer just hope people take note and always think about there OC and what impact it can have before just rushing into pushing stuff beyond stupid 3dmark aint worth killing things over.


thanks for this.

I really didn't do the OC, I just went to the trouble of getting all the sponsored equipment. LN2 is some dangerous crap but they only did single phase. They still managed to get some results b4 everthing froze over - even with 3 coats of insulation. I didn't even get any screenies out of the deal :mad: I managed to save the ram, gfxs, and cpu but the lanparty was gone. To make up for it I made them get their own GX2 for the next fiasco. The q6700 should be an easier beast for me to deal with then that monster. I just don't like the thought of losing such valuable stuff to some stupid tests :mad:

ThatGuy16
03-25-2008, 04:10 AM
FREAK!!!!!!!!!

I just ordered my parts - new gigabyte 3dmars case, rampage formula mobo, PC power cooling 750 PS, and 2 3870's!!!!!!

Ohh man Im gonna have some hella tests to run this weekend!

All parts will be in by friday!

nice! can't wait to see the results :toast:

I'll be getting a water cooling setup early next week. I'll only have a CPU loop, but i may add the 3870's to it later.

I'm hoping to break 20k :D

nflesher87
03-25-2008, 05:22 AM
please neglect my score in post 1391 (which hasn't been added yet) and use this one, I was able to bump it a few points by adjusting the ram and whatnot

http://img.techpowerup.org/080325/06-10606.jpg

mnm222876
03-25-2008, 08:21 AM
Just to clarify, my score was done on the AGP version. I see some notation of the AGP on other peoples lines but not mine.

...if you guys care...

repsol23
03-25-2008, 04:39 PM
Here is my 3dMark06 score, I will have to take another shot using cpuid and gpuz when I have a chance this evening. Unforutnately I can only screen shot this as I cannot submit due to not having an internet connection on my gaming computer.

My specs:
P4 3.2E @ 4.24 GHZ (s478), Powercolor 3850 AGP 810 Core 1026 Mem, using XP SP3

Bytor
03-25-2008, 07:05 PM
UPDATE!!!

Here is a Single card and Crossfire score.


http://i27.tinypic.com/21ou635.jpg


http://i28.tinypic.com/bhwpop.jpg

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 08:23 PM
i got some rubbing alcohol but its 50% isopropyl....is that good enough or should i get it with 70%

erocker
03-25-2008, 08:27 PM
I would test it on something first to see if it leaves any kind of residue. A black piece of aluminum would work as it's easy to see what residue is left behind.

nflesher87
03-25-2008, 08:29 PM
just pick up some 90%, should be the same price
70% is only optimum for antibacterial properties lol we want 90!

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 08:30 PM
so seriously 90%?

zaqwsx
03-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Yes, I use that at school when i need to clean up the rosin from the solder that gets on the board. It also dries very fast. So 90% is what you need.

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 08:35 PM
ok. thanks

CY:G
03-25-2008, 08:38 PM
I just want to thank Freak for maintaining this thread.

I was also wondering if it was possible to have a new section that shows all the results regardless of the category, just would be kind of nice to see where we all stand against everyone.

erocker
03-25-2008, 08:39 PM
Yeah..

well I am waiting for my ZALMAN VF900 which will be here friday and I got my pencil mod tools ready so.. I guess it shouldn't be too big of a problem..

Should I try it on XP though, I heard that will gain me like 500 more points compared to benching on Vista..

Deffinitly on XP! Also, be sure to have all unecessary processes turned of in the Task Manager, which is also good for more points. I highly recommend reading through the "important" stuff here (http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html), in the XP tweak guide.:toast:

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 09:42 PM
Roller coaster tycoon here i come with my 91% isopropyl alcohol

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 10:06 PM
well Gentleman here are my results.....

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/360.jpg

fur bench for 6min at 1920x1200. if it was going to crash it would have.

i normally could run it for about 3 seconds and crash. So my his card is fine but doens't like volts to much.

ThatGuy16
03-25-2008, 10:41 PM
Thats good! I tried that and the ati tool, but i don't think they stress both cards?

Dr. Spankenstein
03-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Hurray! IT'S ALIVE!!!!

Now, time to kill it properly!:laugh:

freaksavior
03-25-2008, 11:02 PM
ha ha, i may try the mod again. but i don't know.

freaksavior
03-27-2008, 04:39 AM
no new scores?

erocker
03-27-2008, 05:15 AM
My two new cards come in tomorrow! It's all I'm thinking about at the moment! I'll get you some scores soon! :D AAAGGGHHh I can't wait!!!!:rockout:

I really can't wait to get my Phenom, and have my 2 3870's + my soon to be v-modded 3850 all working together in perfect peaceful harmony?!:ohwell:

repsol23
03-27-2008, 05:21 AM
no new scores?

I posted my scores in post #1418. Thanks!

MagnusLL
03-27-2008, 02:19 PM
no new scores?

Mine is in post #1404. And it's not too shabby for a single 3870 with a dual core ;)

SpookyWillow
03-27-2008, 03:48 PM
9074 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5909643 x2300 @ 2.7, 3870 @ 950/1200 vista 64bit :O

should be a bit higher but my cpu lets me down big time :(

freaksavior
03-27-2008, 03:55 PM
9074 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5909643 x2300 @ 2.7, 3870 @ 950/1200 vista 64bit :O

should be a bit higher but my cpu lets me down big time :(

i Still need a picture of cpu-z (ati tool, or ccc) and gpu-z or everest bench

nflesher87
03-27-2008, 04:15 PM
freak you never added my score: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=716627&postcount=1416

sneekypeet
03-27-2008, 04:27 PM
Hey flesher, I dont want to throw you into a panic here, but with the issues you have had so far with this DFI, are you certain the mobo is ok?

Not clocking 4 stix is insane to me as I ran 2X512 Corsair DDR2 800 along side my Crucial Ballistix PC2 667 both clocked to 1000MHz on this, and now 4 stix of Tracers.(thank you very much)

Have you clocked well with previous processors on this mobo? Just seems wierd that you have my mobo but more advanced with better features. Yours should be more capable than mine.

SpookyWillow
03-27-2008, 04:38 PM
i Still need a picture of cpu-z (ati tool, or ccc) and gpu-z or everest bench

ahh ok, you want me to re-run the benchmark and take the pic or just post pics of those programs?

freaksavior
03-27-2008, 11:59 PM
ahh ok, you want me to re-run the benchmark and take the pic or just post pics of those programs?

If you don't mind re-run it with cpu-z & gpu-z

repsol23
03-28-2008, 12:20 AM
I am still fairly new to this sight and I hate to sound demanding, but my 3dmark score in the first thread has incorrect information. My cpu is stock 3.2 ghz but the actual test was run with an overclock of 4.24ghz (fsb=265). This will only be relevant for those few who are still running single core systems, but just so that the comparisons can be made with the proper numbers. Thanks!!

freaksavior
03-28-2008, 12:27 AM
I am still fairly new to this sight and I hate to sound demanding, but my 3dmark score in the first thread has incorrect information. My cpu is stock 3.2 ghz but the actual test was run with an overclock of 4.24ghz (fsb=265). This will only be relevant for those few who are still running single core systems, but just so that the comparisons can be made with the proper numbers. Thanks!!

fixed :)

erocker
03-28-2008, 01:10 AM
Ok, got crossfire working, and not using 8.3's. Here's my score bone stock using 8.2's. No need to post, I'll be doing a OC'd run this weekend.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080327/14487.jpg

freaksavior
03-28-2008, 01:16 AM
Congrats. Did my advice help?

erocker
03-28-2008, 01:21 AM
Indeed it did sir! I thank you.:)

freaksavior
03-28-2008, 01:50 AM
sweet!!! i'll update it sometime lol

freaksavior
03-28-2008, 08:01 PM
well my diamond is done with rma. it will be shipped monday im told.

erocker
03-28-2008, 08:07 PM
Ach, for some reason my overclocking skill have gone down the toilet, and I'm moving. Don't bother posting my stock xfire score, I'll have something new soon once I "re-learn" myslef.:shadedshu

freaksavior
03-28-2008, 08:23 PM
Sorry to hear that erocker. but if you say so.

Please post them when you get the chance.

erocker
03-30-2008, 12:08 AM
My cards don't like to OC too much. Will a bios flash fix that? Can anyone recommend me a different bios, or what to do? This has become very frustrating as I thought my CPU OC was bad, but now I'm thinking it's the cards.

freaksavior
03-30-2008, 01:06 AM
wont make a difference afaik. the only way to get more out of them is to pencil mod it. i may be wrong though.

Steevo
03-30-2008, 02:32 AM
New score.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080329/3d06.jpg


This is with the new patch drivers IE: 8.4 Cats installed over 8.3's stock voltage on the 3870 mod BIOS for better cooling.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6004277

asb2106
03-30-2008, 08:13 AM
WOOT!

Im in the 20k club!

Just got the rig running about an hour ago! Already hit 20k. Im going for much much higher!~

EDITED!!! HIGHER NUMBER!!!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080330/21551.jpg

erocker
03-30-2008, 05:35 PM
Hehe, I got things figured out with my cards and OC'ing. The "turbo" bios did the trick! Hopefully if I can remember how to overclock the rest of my system, I should have a single card score for you soon.:)

asb2106
03-30-2008, 05:52 PM
Hehe, I got things figured out with my cards and OC'ing. The "turbo" bios did the trick! Hopefully if I can remember how to overclock the rest of my system, I should have a single card score for you soon.:)

awesome! What was the "trick" to get it to work??

erocker
03-30-2008, 06:20 PM
awesome! What was the "trick" to get it to work??

The "trick" was using the turbo bios. This is a relatively safe OC for my card so far no memory oc. Go ahead and post it up!:D Thank you!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080330/12676.jpg

kup
03-30-2008, 07:40 PM
Erocker, is that the Turbo bios I posted?

asb2106
03-30-2008, 07:56 PM
Kup, u think that bios would work on my sapphire cards too?? Im limited now with my OCing on these cards, I get stuck around 877, not that I should complain I guess......

erocker
03-30-2008, 08:00 PM
Erocker, is that the Turbo bios I posted?

I got it from the VGA bios collection. There's two turbo bios', I used the older one.:)


*OC'd to the max crossfire score coming...

asb2106
03-30-2008, 08:06 PM
OK FREAK!

Im gonna install Vista right now.... then when Im done there, and I get erockers results, I update the list and shoot it over too yah!

kup
03-30-2008, 08:28 PM
Kup, u think that bios would work on my sapphire cards too?? Im limited now with my OCing on these cards, I get stuck around 877, not that I should complain I guess......

I might do, it seems to have helped most other people, regardless of original brand.

I got it from the VGA bios collection. There's two turbo bios', I used the older one.:)


*OC'd to the max crossfire score coming...

Do you have a link to them both? I'd like to compare them to mine?

Ben Clarke
03-30-2008, 08:31 PM
I got 9041 with my system, but no screenshot or validation link.

erocker
03-30-2008, 08:32 PM
Oh f'n yeah!!:rockout: GPU clock is actually 897 but GPU-z shows 837 no matter where I'm at.


http://img.techpowerup.org/080330/18830.jpg

erocker
03-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Do you have a link to them both? I'd like to compare them to mine?


The bios I used is here (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/5107/HIS.HD3870.512.071224.html)

The other turbo bios is here. (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/6392/HIS.HD3870.512.080121.html):toast:

Steevo
03-30-2008, 08:46 PM
Oh f'n yeah!!:rockout: GPU clock is actually 897 but GPU-z shows 837 no matter where I'm at.



Clockstep.


It steps in match to a common denominator.

ThatGuy16
03-30-2008, 09:07 PM
nice erocker, now bump the cpu to 4.3ghz, and beat my score :p

Watercooling should be here tomarrow or tuesday. Hopefully to break 20k with a dual core! :D

freaksavior
03-30-2008, 09:54 PM
ok so all you did was flash it with the turbo bios and it oc's?

erocker
03-30-2008, 10:41 PM
nice erocker, now bump the cpu to 4.3ghz, and beat my score :p Naw, I'll let you keep 1st, as I want to be nice to my processor as I'm selling it soon.




ok so all you did was flash it with the turbo bios and it oc's?

Yep!:) No wonder HIS is selling the non turbo so cheap... They have a gang of trained monkeys making the bios for it.:shadedshu This cooling works great though, before the flash 28c, after 34c.:rockout: Now I need to find a camera and update my case gallery before those HD4k cards start rolling out. I'm also waiting on my Phenom, then we'll see what two 3870's plus two 3850's can do in Vista. Quadfire here we come!!!:D

freaksavior
03-30-2008, 11:24 PM
sweet! so i may just flash my card when i get home

DOM
03-31-2008, 12:25 AM
erocker you know your C2D at speed is like a Phenom @ 2.8GHz

Dr. Spankenstein
03-31-2008, 01:22 AM
@ erocker,

What did you have the vCore set in your BIOS to reach 4.2? CPU-z shows 1.432, is that what it took to be stable or were you just making sure you gave it enough to make it through a run?

erocker
03-31-2008, 01:42 AM
Total crap-shoot. It probablly could of been lower.

Dr. Spankenstein
03-31-2008, 01:57 AM
Thought so.

I'm still on the case as to why there seems to be a 877MHz upper limit for CF set-ups.
Will report any findings...

sneekypeet
03-31-2008, 01:59 AM
Thought so.

I'm still on the case as to why there seems to be a 877MHz upper limit for CF set-ups.
Will report any findings...

what happens if they are bios modded to start at say 890 if they can run it individually...may be the only way for now....bios mods that is!

asb2106
03-31-2008, 02:07 AM
Thought so.

I'm still on the case as to why there seems to be a 877MHz upper limit for CF set-ups.
Will report any findings...

Thats what Im waiting for, you know whats weird DR, I installed Vista and its allowing me to run at 885, but I cannot OC my proc at all:( I went from 4.2 in XP to only getting 3.7 in Vista. LAME

Ahh well, hey, how would I use Riva to OC both cards. Every time I tried it would mess up on me, and I would have to use CCC

Dr. Spankenstein
03-31-2008, 02:26 AM
That may be. I guess I could be a guinea pig when I get my mobo back.

I still insist that it is temp related. These smaller process chips just seem to be more sensitive. Those with full coverage block are the only ones who have gone above 877, as far as I can see. So either PCB crosstalk, RAM heat or GPU heat is holding us back.

ThatGuy16
03-31-2008, 03:03 AM
Thats what Im waiting for, you know whats weird DR, I installed Vista and its allowing me to run at 885, but I cannot OC my proc at all:( I went from 4.2 in XP to only getting 3.7 in Vista. LAME

Ahh well, hey, how would I use Riva to OC both cards. Every time I tried it would mess up on me, and I would have to use CCC

I can't use rivatuner to OC my cards, because it detects my second card as 2D clocks. And CCC maxes out at 837.

Try AMD GPU Clock Tool, that works for me, to oc both cards.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/536/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.7.html

erocker tried it, but it didn't work for him..

Dr. Spankenstein
03-31-2008, 03:27 AM
We need Ray to finish the latest ATI Tray Tool, like yesterday!

Arrrggghhh!

The Haunted
03-31-2008, 03:51 AM
My new dual core cpu finally arrived, here the results with a quick oc :toast:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080330/e3110 14319.jpg

asb2106
04-01-2008, 03:08 AM
I can't use rivatuner to OC my cards, because it detects my second card as 2D clocks. And CCC maxes out at 837.

Try AMD GPU Clock Tool, that works for me, to oc both cards.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/536/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.7.html

erocker tried it, but it didn't work for him..

Thanks for the idea!!

But it doesnt work for me, it says no valid devices. It might be from 64bit..... It says it supports vista 64, but it doesnt say it supports xp

asb2106
04-01-2008, 03:09 AM
We need Ray to finish the latest ATI Tray Tool, like yesterday!

Arrrggghhh!

Does ATI tool allow for overclocking both cards?

ThatGuy16
04-01-2008, 03:21 AM
I got my water cooling stalled today, now i'm having problems getting 4.4Ghz. I can get 4.3 stable, i don't get it! :mad:

Well, i'll figure this thing out and 20K will soon be mine! :rockout: :p

Dr. Spankenstein
04-01-2008, 03:26 AM
Does ATI tool allow for overclocking both cards?

ATI Tool works for 3850 CF but not 3870.
ATI Tray Tools current Beta has CF working but I'm gonna wait for final version.

Steevo
04-01-2008, 02:32 PM
Hit 9747 last night at 2.79Ghz on the processor, my ram was holding me back causing errors at anything over 225Mhz, then I learned I have a 280Mhz FSB limit, 281 and the computer just reboots, more or less voltage means nothing and the nforce is staying cool. I might try to loosen my timings to get extra speed and keep my RAM up.

It is running F@H for today to make sure it is stable.

erocker
04-01-2008, 03:05 PM
I got my water cooling stalled today, now i'm having problems getting 4.4Ghz. I can get 4.3 stable, i don't get it! :mad:

Well, i'll figure this thing out and 20K will soon be mine! :rockout: :p

CPU degridation of those 45nm chips. Why I never go over 4.2ghz.:p But you DO have 1st!:)

kup
04-01-2008, 03:07 PM
ATI Tray Tools current Beta has CF working but I'm gonna wait for final version.

Which ATT is this? The newest I can find it .1067?

ThatGuy16
04-01-2008, 06:07 PM
CPU degridation of those 45nm chips. Why I never go over 4.2ghz.:p But you DO have 1st!:)

You know it! :D

i can't break 4.4ghz, seem to be having some issues. Ah well. I only go high voltage for benching. My 24/7 clocks are 4ghz / 1.26v :toast:

sneekypeet
04-01-2008, 06:10 PM
Does ATI tool allow for overclocking both cards?

seems as everyone missed it before....why not use the Bios editor and set the clocks of the cards in BIOS and no need to OC them with anything.

Test them both ...agree on a happy medium for both , Flash, run new OC versions in crossfire, play games till you cant stand it anylonger!:D

asb2106
04-01-2008, 07:11 PM
seems as everyone missed it before....why not use the Bios editor and set the clocks of the cards in BIOS and no need to OC them with anything.

Test them both ...agree on a happy medium for both , Flash, run new OC versions in crossfire, play games till you cant stand it anylonger!:D

I dont want to flash any bios', I had an issue with my last sapphire cards, I was told by their RMA department that it does void the warrenty, as that may not be true, Id rather not take that risk, and if their are programs that can OC the cards, why mess with the bios

sneekypeet
04-01-2008, 07:19 PM
I dont want to flash any bios', I had an issue with my last sapphire cards, I was told by their RMA department that it does void the warrenty, as that may not be true, Id rather not take that risk, and if their are programs that can OC the cards, why mess with the bios

Oh no, it will in fact void the warranty...
sorry for the bad experiences...mine have always gone quite well! Understood!

freaksavior
04-01-2008, 07:28 PM
i lost my orignal bios for my HIS :banghead:


the turbo doesn't help, tf2 crashes at 850core

Dr. Spankenstein
04-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Which ATT is this? The newest I can find it .1067?

This is v1.4.7.1159 (http://cid-a50350ea7a969f0c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/attsetup.exe). Ray always updates the latest Beta on the first post of the ATT beta section here (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=255769).

Enjoy!

p.s. still Beta...

Dr. Spankenstein
04-01-2008, 07:55 PM
Sorry for the double post!

CPU degridation of those 45nm chips. Why I never go over 4.2ghz.:p But you DO have 1st!:)

Glad you're hip to the reality of this phenomenon. I was gonna make a comment to The Haunted, but we're all responsible for HOW we OC our hardware.;)

erocker
04-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Sorry for the double post!
Glad you're hip to the reality of this phenomenon. I was gonna make a comment to The Haunted, but we're all responsible for HOW we OC our hardware.;)



I hate to use the analogy,:ohwell: but a even a whore can only take so much. You keep pounding her with something huge, she's gonna wear out.

Dr. Spankenstein
04-01-2008, 08:11 PM
ummm, well said....I think....:wtf:

:laugh:

Apocolypse007
04-01-2008, 08:16 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5929597&resultType=14

i havent overclocked my cpu, so thats whats holding my score back

sneekypeet
04-01-2008, 08:30 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5929597&resultType=14

i havent overclocked my cpu, so thats whats holding my score back

You need to set the link as public please so we may view it!

trog100
04-01-2008, 08:30 PM
I hate to use the analogy,:ohwell: but a even a whore can only take so much. You keep pounding her with something huge, she's gonna wear out.

too many small ones is more likely than the odd "huge" one..:o

trog

freaksavior
04-01-2008, 08:30 PM
does it matter what bios i use for the HIS 3870? i need to flash it back. my card doesn't like oc. i think i might rma it anyway.

kup
04-01-2008, 08:34 PM
What do you mean "what bios"? Are you referring to if you were to RMA it?

I'd just get a standard HIS bios and flash that back to it, or maybe edit the HIS Turbo bios to lower clocks better suited to your card?

freaksavior
04-01-2008, 08:38 PM
I mean can i use any of the his bios's for the 3870?

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?page=1&architecture=&manufacturer=HIS&model=HD+3870&interface=&memSize=0

edit: is the his default 800, 780 or 777?

ThatGuy16
04-01-2008, 08:41 PM
I hate to use the analogy,:ohwell: but a even a whore can only take so much. You keep pounding her with something huge, she's gonna wear out.

Nice way of putting it :laugh:

I think I'm going to try and break 10k on SM 3 later, as long as that "urge" is still there in a couple of hours. lol

erocker
04-01-2008, 08:45 PM
I mean can i use any of the his bios's for the 3870?

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?page=1&architecture=&manufacturer=HIS&model=HD+3870&interface=&memSize=0

edit: is the his default 800, 780 or 777?

This is the one I used for both my cards. http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/5107/HIS.HD3870.512.071224.html

Dr. Spankenstein
04-01-2008, 09:21 PM
In my limited research, there have been reports of Load Line Calibration being a culprit in degrading these chips with frequent spikes in the vCore. (This is in regards to vdrop, not vdroop.)

Seems it would be much preferable to run without LLC enabled, take DMM readings of vCore off the mobo, adjust voltages via BIOS accordingly.

asb2106
04-01-2008, 10:36 PM
In my limited research, there have been reports of Load Line Calibration being a culprit in degrading these chips with frequent spikes in the vCore. (This is in regards to vdrop, not vdroop.)

Seems it would be much preferable to run without LLC enabled, take DMM readings of vCore off the mobo, adjust voltages via BIOS accordingly.

oooh i have never heard that! not good, i use that. Im gonna turn that off today!

freaksavior
04-01-2008, 10:40 PM
This is the one I used for both my cards. http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/5107/HIS.HD3870.512.071224.html

so did i, but i have to downclock my card to play tf2

Wile E
04-02-2008, 04:15 AM
In my limited research, there have been reports of Load Line Calibration being a culprit in degrading these chips with frequent spikes in the vCore. (This is in regards to vdrop, not vdroop.)

Seems it would be much preferable to run without LLC enabled, take DMM readings of vCore off the mobo, adjust voltages via BIOS accordingly.You have any more info on this? Links, or anything of that nature?