Post your 3dmark06 HD 3K Series Results

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Yeppers! Towards the end of this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179965) thread(like pg. 7), some people were posting graphs from OCCT and such to show the voltage spikes.

And here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5) Anand was explaining a similar scenario.

[asb2106]

Yeppers! Towards the end of this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179965) thread(like pg. 7), some people were posting graphs from OCCT and such to show the voltage spikes.

And here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5) Anand was explaining a similar scenario.

both very interesting reads! I totally agree with the vdroop senario, as annoying as it may be sometimes, it does serve a great purpose - I think all overclockers should have a read!

[Wile E]

Yeppers! Towards the end of this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179965) thread(like pg. 7), some people were posting graphs from OCCT and such to show the voltage spikes.

And here (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5) Anand was explaining a similar scenario.Yeah, I read the Anand article. There's is more of a general technical discussion and theories. It doesn't explain the possible rapid deterioration of these 45nm chips.

Oh, and revisit the XS link. It seems the people that get voltage spikes have spikes on their psu as well. So it's not the board to blame. I'm running OCCT right now to see if I'm getting any spikes.

[Wile E]

After 30mins of OCCT, I had no Vcore spikes. I have LLC enabled in my BIOS.

[freaksavior]

ok well what bios should i use to reflash my card/ the 777 or 780 bios?

[erocker]

The two bios' on the bottom of the collection should work. One says "OC bios fix" whatever that means, and the other one (bottom-most) is the stock. You may want to try a stock Sapphire bios perhaps? What are your temps like? This is very baffling to me as I thought your cards had the horizontal resistor and supported software v-control?!:confused: Your PSU is good? :confused::confused:

[freaksavior]

temp while gaming was about 65c

[erocker]

Have you tried running your fans higher via Rivatuner? Also, not sure but your card just may need more voltage at different clock states. There is the other HIS bios in the collection that has the higher clocks and different clock state voltages, IF you want to try it. It's the newest one on the list here. (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/6392/HIS.HD3870.512.080121.html)

[freaksavior]

fan is at 100% because its not loud to me

edit: im going to flash with that bios and add some volts to the card. just not to much. maybe like 1.35

[erocker]

fan is at 100% because its not loud to me

edit: im going to flash with that bios and add some volts to the card. just not to much. maybe like 1.35

If you look at the two 850mhz bios' you'll notice that they give 1.3v's but at different clock states. It's quite possible that your cards just have different voltage needs at different clock states than mine. Hope it works man.:toast:

[asb2106]

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5929597&resultType=14

i havent overclocked my cpu, so thats whats holding my score back

hey, can you post with a CPUz and GPUz shot please, it works much easier and its easier to verify. Ill send the update to freaksavior as soon as you post it

[sneekypeet]

hey, can you post with a CPUz and GPUz shot please, it works much easier and its easier to verify. Ill send the update to freaksavior as soon as you post it

Wow you mean you even got to see the score...it still shows as a private score to me.

[asb2106]

Wow you mean you even got to see the score...it still shows as a private score to me.

yah, if gives a compare link below to see it, it was like ~9800

[sneekypeet]

completely my fault then...I had never seen the compare link until you pointed it out...thx, now I know to look for it.

[freaksavior]

1.36v and 877 core 1190 mem ati tool running so we will see but i think its stable :D

it will artifact if i touch the mem though :(

Whats better to oc though the core or the mem?

core crashed at 891 if i put more v through it, it might actually work :D

[DOM]

1.36v and 877 core 1190 mem ati tool running so we will see but i think its stable :D

it will artifact if i touch the mem though :(

Whats better to oc though the core or the mem?

core

[asb2106]

1.36v and 877 core 1190 mem ati tool running so we will see but i think its stable :D

it will artifact if i touch the mem though :(

Whats better to oc though the core or the mem?

they both boost frames, but the core raises speeds at a higher rate

!!How did u change the voltage?

[freaksavior]

i just pencil modded it, but i ran 3dmark and it crashed with the volts added so no more volts

[freaksavior]

and it crashed again at 800.

[erocker]

Try running just one card oc'd and see what happens.

[freaksavior]

i am running one.

[unsmart]

It's a bit like drag racing with my mini van:laugh: I thought it froze in a few spots it was so slow.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080402/Capture003450.jpg
If I get a T.E.C and freeze it I might be able to brake 2,000.

[asb2106]

It's a bit like drag racing with my mini van:laugh: I thought it froze in a few spots it was so slow.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080402/Capture003450.jpg
If I get a T.E.C and freeze it I might be able to brake 2,000.

hahahahaha! :laugh::laugh:

Thats funny!

I got similar results, with one of my laptops(AMD x2 @1.8, 2 GIG ram, ATI 3450) I got 2250!

I laughed when I ran it!

Thanks for the results though, thats cool to see!

How does it do in windows and what not?

[freaksavior]

flashed back its all good now

[erocker]

Sorry bout TF2, you joined a different server and it was full. What the heck is up with your cards? They can't be different from mine? How perplexing....

[erocker]

Question. What is the preferred and/or best method of updating drivers with Crossfire. I'm using 8.2's at the moment.

[freaksavior]

i would try simple downloading 8.3 and installing them without removing 8.2

Im so rma'ing this card.

I tired as heck of sending stuff back though..List or rma's

Diamond 3870
HIS 3870
Xbox 360
Dads Power supply
Asus p5b
Plantronics 855 BT headset

ect.

[unsmart]

It does it's job in my HTPC:) powering a HDTV[720p]and a old 1024/768 lcd. I'm running XP black,GBPVR and have a ATI 650pro tuner. It looks good and never had a issue with it even crammed in a 50s radio case[not ready for viewing yet] with a joke of a passive heatsink on it. Really it's the most pointless heatsink I've ever seen, I not know how it can cool anything. The CPU is the problem and will be getting swapped for a dual core at some point soon. I'm happy with the card but would like a better passive heatsink if I could find one that will fit in the space.

[blacktruckryder]

My 3d mark 06 score. I think i can do better, tweak some more settings.:D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5952781

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/BLACKTRUCKRYDER/Capture4-3-2008-113538AM.jpg

[asb2106]

It's a bit like drag racing with my mini van:laugh: I thought it froze in a few spots it was so slow.

If I get a T.E.C and freeze it I might be able to brake 2,000.
Hey??

What 3400 is that? 3450 or 3470?

[unsmart]

It's a 3850, actually this one and now it's on sale:( I paid a $52 for it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102724

[xkm1948]

I got a new record for my 3870 system.

:toast:


I am using 8.3-hotfix And it is recognized as 8.4


http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/xkm1948/3DMark06-OC-1.jpg

[freaksavior]

i got a rma from the egg. still don't have my diamond back thouh, said it would be shipped today. i am considering getting a 9600gt for now and returning it when i get one back.

[asb2106]

This is v1.4.7.1159 (http://cid-a50350ea7a969f0c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/attsetup.exe). Ray always updates the latest Beta on the first post of the ATT beta section here (http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=255769).

Enjoy!

p.s. still Beta...

hey Dr., I cannot get the ATT to work, I use Vista 64 and its a driver issue, I tried the low level install with no luck, do you(or anyone) know how to turn off Driver signature in Vista 64? I know u can I just forgot how!

[Lillebror]

After alot of tweaking and stuff, this is the best i could manage.
Btw, my 3870 isnt a sapphire, but it was the only bios i could find that i could flash to my club3d.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080404/Unavngivet.jpg

[kup]

hey Dr., I cannot get the ATT to work, I use Vista 64 and its a driver issue, I tried the low level install with no luck, do you(or anyone) know how to turn off Driver signature in Vista 64? I know u can I just forgot how!

You can press F8 when booting and choose to boot without driver signitures I think, but you can't do it automatically.

[asb2106]

You can press F8 when booting and choose to boot without driver signitures I think, but you can't do it automatically.

I know there was somewhere in computer management to turn it off, you know, right click on computer and manage........

[kup]

There was, but I'm sure it got disabled with an update a little while back so as to stop Non-WHQL drivers from causing even more instabilities in Vista...

[asb2106]

There was, but I'm sure it got disabled with an update a little while back so as to stop Non-WHQL drivers from causing even more instabilities in Vista...

my version had it, id like to see if it still does....... do you remember what it was called? I dug around in there and I forgot what it was called

[kup]

Can't remember for the life of me, sorry dude.

(Not a Vista user, prefer a tweaked XP over Vista)

[erocker]

Single card:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080405/13403.jpg



*Disregard the Crossfire post, there is a new screen I posted.

[asb2106]

Single card:

Crossfire (Cores are 918 as well):


I am the dual-core champ!!:p

Erocker!@ Those rock!

?? 4 yah, how did you get the cores up there? Was that a pencil mod?

[erocker]

Nope, my cards just rock!:rockout:

[freaksavior]

very nice.

I cant wait till i get my crossfire of back

[ThatGuy16]

erocker, it on now! :p

Great results!

[Dr. Spankenstein]

I am the dual-core champ!!:p


That's awesome for a dual-core! Congratulations!:toast:
You do have the HIS turbo BIOS flashed on these, don't you? Or am I like two months in the past?:o

I'm getting antsy now! I may have to plunk down some coin on a new E8500! Still looking at a Q9450/X3350 but the draw is not as strong.

[erocker]

Yes, I have the Turbo bios on these. Honestly, I think the cores can mabye do a little more yet! The memory's limit is 1300 though.:) And to that guy, I'm working on 4.5ghz.... I'll give it a month or so though, as I need to find a better way to cool my NB.

[freaksavior]

my am horrible disapointed with my scroes now.

[asb2106]

Nope, my cards just rock!:rockout:

what program did u use to OC ur cards?

[erocker]

RivaTuner 8. Tested for artifacts (for my hottest running card) with ATi tool 0.27beta4. Oh, and I've learned not to "unlock" my cards in overdrive.

[freaksavior]

RivaTuner 8. Tested for artifacts (for my hottest running card) with ATi tool 0.27beta4. Oh, and I've learned not to "unlock" my cards in overdrive.

why do you not unloack them?

what should i buy from best buy to hold me over till my 3870 gets back?

[kup]

why do you not unloack them?

what should i buy from best buy to hold me over till my 3870 gets back?

x300... :rockout: How long you got to wait?

[gerrynicol]

Am I really the top Vista(non modded) scorer?, is this the best I could get from my setup??

[asb2106]

RivaTuner 8. Tested for artifacts (for my hottest running card) with ATi tool 0.27beta4. Oh, and I've learned not to "unlock" my cards in overdrive.

what difference does it make if you do not unlock in overdrive?

[asb2106]

why do you not unloack them?

what should i buy from best buy to hold me over till my 3870 gets back?

id say go with the 9600, it compares to the 3870 almost perfectly perfromance wise. And its not bad on price! Im going to return mine right now!

[asb2106]

RivaTuner 8. Tested for artifacts (for my hottest running card) with ATi tool 0.27beta4. Oh, and I've learned not to "unlock" my cards in overdrive.

and rivatuner does not recongize both my cards. It only sees one, and CCC sees both cards fine...... any ideas?

[freaksavior]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129100&Tpk=visiontek


well we have a 3870 oc edition i can get for $189

[Dr. Spankenstein]

The answer might be in post #1563 if you look at everything.;)

[erocker]

and rivatuner does not recongize both my cards. It only sees one, and CCC sees both cards fine...... any ideas?

On the main screen in the top drop-down menu there should be four cards listed, one for each adapter. They are not there? But you ARE running Vista which is a whole different beast.

[HTC]

Here's my score, in a E6850 @ 3600 with a Sapphire HD 3870 @ 810 / 1246, according to CCC, in Vista 64 (XP SP2 compatibility):

http://img.techpowerup.org/080405/3DMark Score.png

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Right where you should be! Nice score...

Now get to clockin' that 6850 a little higher and push your GPU to 852 at least!

[HTC]

Right where you should be! Nice score...

Now get to clockin' that 6850 a little higher and push your GPU to 852 at least!

Thank you!

Don't think so, yet: I'm still with the stock cooler and my case only has a 90 mm exaust fan. As for the GPU, it also has a stock cooler and i'm not changing it. I'm waiting for my case + coolers to arrive: read my system specs (i'll update them shortly).

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Looks like a very well balanced set-up! I love Noctua products as well!

Be sure and post updated score when you get everything cooled!

[HTC]

Looks like a very well balanced set-up! I love Noctua products as well!

Be sure and post updated score when you get everything cooled!

According to the shop dude, the case will arrive in about 2.5 weeks (their supplier don't have it). Not sure about the CPU cooler because their supplier also doesn't have it. I'll know more in 2 or 3 days.

[asb2106]

The answer might be in post #1563 if you look at everything.;)

?? what ??

ok ,check it, when I use riva, it only sees one card, GPUz says crossfire is disabled, but a 3dmark run uses both cards, Im playin crysis at 1920x1200 all very high and its smooooooth, so I know both cards are working, but nothing recognizes it..... any reasons why, anyone know???
http://img.techpowerup.org/080405/Untitled.jpg

[ThatGuy16]

GPUZ doesn't recognize it for me either, and rivatuner will only OC one card.

I just finished a 3Dmark run at 877 core, and i can't go any higher because i can't get anything to overclock my second card except CCC! AMD GPU Clock tool used to work, but now it just freezes when i hit "set clock" :cry:

EDIT: erocker :nutkick:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/3d06new.jpg

1 point!! :roll::laugh:

[erocker]

EDIT: erocker :nutkick:


1 point!! :roll::laugh:

Un-F'n believable.:shadedshu Alright... Don't post my score yet! :laugh:

[ThatGuy16]

I about cracked up when i saw my score :laugh:

Your lucky i can't get this thing to 4.4Ghz :cry:

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Uh oh! Me smells the piquant air of competition! It all comes down to this!

One point, FFS!

This reminds me of DOM and I trading blows on Alcapone's 06 thread with our 1950XTs!

[DOM]

Uh oh! Me smells the piquant air of competition! It all comes down to this!

One point, FFS!

This reminds me of DOM and I trading blows on Alcapone's 06 thread with out 1950XTs!
LOL it took 32F for me to win and 7.9cats :rolleyes: it was fun untill you got the 3870 :(

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Ah the memories!

Matter of fact, my 1950xt is looking at me right now wondering...."Why don't you like me anymore?"

So maybe we'll just call it a "breather" I'm taking! Gotta find all the stock cooling parts though....

You're still "top dog" in my book!

[erocker]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080406/19273marks.jpg

I'm done. It's officially time for a quad.:laugh:

[ThatGuy16]

But.. we get killer SM scores! :p


Ahh... you better hope i don't figure out my problem as to why i can't break 4.34ghz :roll:

[erocker]

But.. we get killer SM scores! :p


Ahh... you better hope i don't figure out my problem as to why i can't break 4.34ghz :roll:

If you can do it, more power to you!:rockout: Like I said, I'm done, this processor is being sold to a hell of a guy!:toast:

[DOM]

Ah the memories!

Matter of fact, my 1950xt is looking at me right now wondering...."Why don't you like me anymore?"

So maybe we'll just call it a "breather" I'm taking! Gotta find all the stock cooling parts though....

You're still "top dog" in my book!
:toast: but I was on water dont know if the card would of OC that much if it wasnt, I know the CPU would have cuz ive done it on air but it was cold to but well she what I get with the X3350 :D

[ThatGuy16]

If you can do it, more power to you!:rockout: Like I said, I'm done, this processor is being sold to a hell of a guy!:toast:
I hear ya :toast:

What quad are you getting? i was thinking about grabbing a 9450, but they seem to be hitting FSB walls around 450:shadedshu

[Dr. Spankenstein]

:toast: but I was on water dont know if the card would of OC that much if it wasnt, I know the CPU would have cuz ive done it on air but it was cold to but well she what I get with the X3350 :D

Cool! I have to say I'm amazed at what you've gotten from that card!

Can't wait to see some results with teh quad, Family Man!!:laugh:

[erocker]

QX9650 if I can get one for under $700 or a Q6700 if they are on sale. If not a Q6600 will suffice just fine.;)

[Dr. Spankenstein]

QX9650 if I can get one for under $700 or a Q6700 if they are on sale. If not a Q6600 will suffice just fine.;)

You little f**ker!:laugh:

You are gonna kill with any of those chips!:toast: That board of yours will compliment any of those.

These rigs are gettin' serious!

[erocker]

I forgot about the Xeons too! Most likely though I'm going to land a Q6700. Now I'm getting really excited. ASB, Deagle... You better watch out!:laugh:

[Wile E]

You know you want a QX9650. lol.

[erocker]

Yes.. Yes I DO! It's just affording one really. I have to be able to sell off some stuff this week in order to get one. I may wait to get a big money processor when Intel's new socket comes out. Besides, I'm growing more confident with my OCing and I think I can do really good (or really bad) things with one of those Q6700's. Besides an unlocked multiplier will make me lazy.

* I should stop blabbing about my future purchases on Freak's thread. Sorry man!:o

[Wile E]

Yes.. Yes I DO! It's just affording one really. I have to be able to sell off some stuff this week in order to get one. I may wait to get a big money processor when Intel's new socket comes out. Besides, I'm growing more confident with my OCing and I think I can do really good (or really bad) things with one of those Q6700's. Besides an unlocked multiplier will make me lazy.
Yeah, but the Q6700 still doesn't guaranty 4GHz or better. It's almost a given with the QX tho. Mine does 4GHz on less than 1.4V. :D

[asb2106]

GPUZ doesn't recognize it for me either, and rivatuner will only OC one card.

I just finished a 3Dmark run at 877 core, and i can't go any higher because i can't get anything to overclock my second card except CCC! AMD GPU Clock tool used to work, but now it just freezes when i hit "set clock" :cry:

EDIT: erocker :nutkick:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/3d06new.jpg

1 point!! :roll::laugh:

this is exactly my problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY!~

[asb2106]

I forgot about the Xeons too! Most likely though I'm going to land a Q6700. Now I'm getting really excited. ASB, Deagle... You better watch out!:laugh:

BRING IT! Im working now on getting past Deagle! Im trying! You and a quad core will get past, but Im not done yet!!!!!:laugh::laugh::toast:

[erocker]

this is exactly my problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY!~

If you look further, I beat him again. There was a mighty battle last night!:laugh:

[asb2106]

If you look further, I beat him again. There was a mighty battle last night!:laugh:

no, I mean why it says crossfire is disabled! Its really driving me nuts, it wont let me use riva to OC my cards, I have to use CCC and that is limited to 877

[erocker]

It's obvious to me that it's a Vista problem. When I use Rivatuner, first I OC #1 card, and it stays locked in at that setting. Then I OC #2 card which shows 300mhz for the core, but I ramp up the settings to 900/1300. For the #2 card I have to hit test, it tests it then drops back down to 300mhz. While running 3d06 for a test I went into rivatuner to make sure and they were both running at (approx) 900/1300. You may want to create a separate partition on your system drive and use XP for benching. You will get better scores anyway, and with the water cooling, I probablly won't be able to compete when I get my quad. Though if we get any more really cool days here mabye...

[asb2106]

It's obvious to me that it's a Vista problem. When I use Rivatuner, first I OC #1 card, and it stays locked in at that setting. Then I OC #2 card which shows 300mhz for the core, but I ramp up the settings to 900/1300. For the #2 card I have to hit test, it tests it then drops back down to 300mhz. While running 3d06 for a test I went into rivatuner to make sure and they were both running at (approx) 900/1300. You may want to create a separate partition on your system drive and use XP for benching. You will get better scores anyway, and with the water cooling, I probablly won't be able to compete when I get my quad. Though if we get any more really cool days here mabye...

hehe:laugh:

Im actually putting in a 160GB sata HD I have to run a XP partition right now!
That is the same problem I was having with Rivatuner when i was on XP also! So I guess it was sticking. Well Im get that installed ASAP. I am gonna modding my cards this week, so i need to make sure that I can OC them as high as I want!!:D

[erocker]

If Rivatuner 8 isn't working, perhaps try 6. Don't use 7, I guess it's bad.

[freaksavior]

Yes.. Yes I DO! It's just affording one really. I have to be able to sell off some stuff this week in order to get one. I may wait to get a big money processor when Intel's new socket comes out. Besides, I'm growing more confident with my OCing and I think I can do really good (or really bad) things with one of those Q6700's. Besides an unlocked multiplier will make me lazy.

* I should stop blabbing about my future purchases on Freak's thread. Sorry man!:o

lol, its cool.

i just wish i could break 20k or maybe 21k. i know my system can do it but its weird!

[erocker]

Do a fresh install of XP (without SP3). You got your crossfire cards back yet?

[freaksavior]

Do a fresh install of XP (without SP3). You got your crossfire cards back yet?

nope, probably not for a few more weeks :(

my his is going back tomorrow for the newegg rma. it crashed in tf2 the other day at stock settings

[ThatGuy16]

Man, your not having any luck with these are you?

[freaksavior]

nope, not really.

[erocker]

You don't think you are maxing out your PSU with everything OC'd do you?:o

[freaksavior]

me? I hope now

is it seriously possible that its my psu hindering me from oc?

[HTC]

My new "high score": please add it.

- E6850 @ 3600 running Vista 64

- Sapphire HD3870 @ 810/1276 (according to CCC) and 810/1269 (according to GPU-Z and ATI tools): check the pic.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080406/3DMarks.png

[erocker]

me? I hope now

is it seriously possible that its my psu hindering me from oc?

Since it uses 4 12v rails, you may be overloading one of them... Not sure really.

[asb2106]

Since it uses 4 12v rails, you may be overloading one of them... Not sure really.

i thought the corsair was a single rail? If not that could be the prob! I went to a PC power cooling, couldnt be happier:D

[Dr. Spankenstein]

+1

Thought I'd make the trifecta of PC P&C Silencer 750 owners...

[erocker]

Lol, I have one powering my spider rig, and it actually uses three 18A 12v rails. With the quad at 1.5v, you probablly are overloading one. I'm still not 100% positive though, perhaps wait for the new cards first. Try using a monitoring program like Asus pc probe to determine where the volts are at OC'd and under load.

[ThatGuy16]

I'm starting to think my power supply is my issue why i can't reach 4.4ghz :shadedshu

My problem is either my ram settings, or my power supply is screaming "uncle!"

[freaksavior]

well, im disapointed. i asked what psu to buy and i said i may go crossfire in the future and was told this would be fine.
:(

[erocker]

I really think it's your quad at 1.5+ that's doing the dirty business. But check the rails with a monitor if you can.

*Wait... In your specs it says your running your axeram undervolted at over 1200mhz. That can deffinitely cause some problems across the board.

[freaksavior]

well in my hardware i think its 2.18 i'll chekc when i stick my 9600gt in (his gets rma'ed tomorrow)

[Steevo]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080407/3d06.jpg

Tightened up timings.

[Wile E]

Lol, I have one powering my spider rig, and it actually uses three 18A 12v rails. With the quad at 1.5v, you probablly are overloading one. I'm still not 100% positive though, perhaps wait for the new cards first. Try using a monitoring program like Asus pc probe to determine where the volts are at OC'd and under load.Jonny Guru proved that these Corsair HX psus don't actually have multiple rails. They are split "after the fact. You can run them at there combined maximum 12v amperage on just a single rail with no problems.

But that said, I think maybe I want to get a bigger psu, just to be safe. I get unstable at high voltages too.

well in my hardware i think its 2.18 i'll chekc when i stick my 9600gt in (his gets rma'ed tomorrow)If your Rampage is anything like my Maximus, it actually overvolts the ram. I run my Transcend at 2.1V in BIOS, and it equates to 2.2V real.

[asb2106]

Jonny Guru proved that these Corsair HX psus don't actually have multiple rails. They are split "after the fact. You can run them at there combined maximum 12v amperage on just a single rail with no problems.

But that said, I think maybe I want to get a bigger psu, just to be safe. I get unstable at high voltages too.

If your Rampage is anything like my Maximus, it actually overvolts the ram. I run my Transcend at 2.1V in BIOS, and it equates to 2.2V real.

he actually has a maximus that has a rampage bios

and thats good to know, I was just going over my board more today(i have a x48 rampage) and I noticed that it does overvolt the ram. Its about .08 volts. I wonder why it does this??

[trog100]

why dont u buy a cheap watt meter wall plug thing freak.. i doubt u are overloading your psu.. i dont have a quad but the last time i measured by rig with just one 3870 card it pulled about 280 watts from the wall fully loaded and fully clocked..

i recon with two cards no more than 360 watts.. my psu has two 19 amp rails.. thats 456 watts.. your problems seems simple to me freak.. u are getting a little too carried away with the desire (obsession) for high 2006 scores.. he he he

i like to have one at the top but take note i stopped trying with my hardware long ago.. i know what its capable of.. no longer being at the top without killing it.. he he he

trog

[freaksavior]

why dont u buy a cheap watt meter wall plug thing freak.. i doubt u are overloading your psu.. i dont have a quad but the last time i measured by rig with just one 3870 card it pulled about 280 watts from the wall fully loaded and fully clocked..

i recon with two cards no more than 360 watts.. my psu has two 19 amp rails.. thats 456 watts.. your problems seems simple to me freak.. u are getting a little too carried away with the desire (obsession) for high 2006 scores.. he he he

i like to have one at the top but take note i stopped trying with my hardware long ago.. i know what its capable of.. no longer being at the top without killing it.. he he he

trog


i thought about buying one, and tbh, maybe i am being obseesed about the scores, but compared to others with a setup simalar have like 2k more than my score

[trog100]

i thought about buying one, and tbh, maybe i am being obseesed about the scores, but compared to others with a setup simalar have like 2k more than my score

19033 - freaksavior - Q6600 3.65ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1224 Mem - XP

i dont see many similar with higher scores.. i see some cpus at 4 gig.. in fact i see lots of hardware killing extremes.. hardware luck plays a big part at the levels u are after.. your score is good for what u have.. stop playing silly buggers.. ;)

unless u are very lucky or have tons of cash to keep buying new hardware to keep up its a no-win scenario..

trog

[freaksavior]

i want to break 20k then i would be happy.
you have one of the top dual core spots so you cant complaign

[trog100]

i want to break 20k then i would be happy.
you have one of the top dual core spots so you cant complaign

i have the hardware for a top dual score.. i dont complain.. it was the top a long time back when it was first put up..

but the top score comes down first to having lucky good hardware and then who can be stupid enough to way overvolt more than anybody else and wreck the good lucky hardware..

when do u stop..???.. it seems with some its when the hardware breaks.. which is why the word obsession springs to mind..

trog

[erocker]

which is why the word obsession springs to mind..

trog

What's wrong with obsession? I would call it passion myself.:p

[freaksavior]

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/3d-1.jpg

[erocker]

Nice score!:toast: Wrong thread!:p

*It's your thread... I know!:D

[freaksavior]

thanks. and i know. i just thouht i would post it for the heck of it. its a pretty good score imho.

[nflesher87]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080407/06-12250.jpg

sapphire 3850 256mb stock cooling xp

[freaksavior]

what about this psu?

http://www.pcextreme.com/catalog/sku/psu-307.html

[erocker]

Wow, I like all the modular cables for sure! There is a review here for it! http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Silverstone/Strider_850W/5.html

You can't go wrong with a PCPower&Cooling 750Quad though.:)

[ThatGuy16]

It turns out it was my ram causing the problems, that was fixed with super slow timings, ram cooler, and some voltage :p

Oh, i win the war! :nutkick:... 3DMark kept crashing at 4.5Ghz, my ram started to give me problems again :shadedshu

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/19420.jpg

*note to self, spend more money on ram next time

[freaksavior]

Wow, I like all the modular cables for sure! There is a review here for it! http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Silverstone/Strider_850W/5.html

You can't go wrong with a PCPower&Cooling 750Quad though.:)

since ocz bought them...no thanks

[HTC]

Please add this one as well: with Vista 64 SP1.

This is as high as i dare without my new case and especially without my new CPU and Chipset coolers:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080407/3DMarks.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=342133

[erocker]

It turns out it was my ram causing the problems, that was fixed with super slow timings, ram cooler, and some voltage :p

Oh, i win the war! :nutkick:... 3DMark kept crashing at 4.5Ghz, my ram started to give me problems again :shadedshu


*note to self, spend more money on ram next time

What are you running your ram at?:)

[Wile E]

What's wrong with obsession? I would call it passion myself.:p
Meeeeee toooooo! :D

[Wile E]

since ocz bought them...no thanks

OCZ hasn't changed anything (yet, at least). They're still Seasonic built units.

[ThatGuy16]

What are you running your ram at?:)

1:1 ratio, there is was at 978mhz, 6-6-6-18 2.3v :roll:. For 4.5ghz i had it on the same settings at 1000mhz and 3Dmark kept crashing. I guess i need new ram :laugh:..

[erocker]

Well, it looks like I'll have to do a bios flash so I can get 45 row refrsh for my memory. I am very reluctant to do so, since I already did one bad flash on this board. You win. My new quad will be here soon.

[ThatGuy16]

Good luck with your quad! :)

edit: mines set at 42 refresh to act delay, is that the same thing?

[erocker]

Yeah, I think so but I'm runnng my memory close to 1300mhz, so I need to loosen things up a bit, and with my current bios the memory options just aren't there. Kudos to your Gigabyte board though, and your're awesome score! You should really consider a set of Transcend Axeram 1200, I bet you could do 4.5+ and hit the coveted 20,000! :toast:

[ThatGuy16]

Thanks!

I'll look into new ram as soon as i can, i have about run myself out of cash with this thing :laugh:

:toast:

[asb2106]

well since we are talking about ram.....

I have 2x2 gig of Gskill DDR2 PC8000 @ 1000mhz 5 - 5 - 5 - 15

I can get a stable 1075, and when i mean stable, its stable ish(crashes about every 5 or 6 hours). Should I loosen up the timings on it?? I tried with the voltage as much as I could, I just couldnt get it to stablize. Hell I can get it to post at 1320(prob could go higher), It will load windows @ 1200, just not really stable(maybe like an hour max).

Could you recommend any timings for me (ASUS RAMPAGE - very similar to your bios!)

Coming from my P5b I know nothing of OCing ram. It doesnt have nearly 1/4 of the options that this board has.

Any help is appreciated!!

[erocker]

I'm trying to figure things out myself. The Ai clock twister and strong, moderate, realaxed different levels, etc. are all confusing as hell to me. I tried just about every setting tonight and failed most of the time. Off to play some games.

[Wile E]

well since we are talking about ram.....

I have 2x2 gig of Gskill DDR2 PC8000 @ 1000mhz 5 - 5 - 5 - 15

I can get a stable 1075, and when i mean stable, its stable ish(crashes about every 5 or 6 hours). Should I loosen up the timings on it?? I tried with the voltage as much as I could, I just couldnt get it to stablize. Hell I can get it to post at 1320(prob could go higher), It will load windows @ 1200, just not really stable(maybe like an hour max).

Could you recommend any timings for me (ASUS RAMPAGE - very similar to your bios!)

Coming from my P5b I know nothing of OCing ram. It doesnt have nearly 1/4 of the options that this board has.

Any help is appreciated!!What fsb and NB voltage are you running for those speeds? The Maximus and Rampage like NB volts. I have to run over 1.6V NB to get 1200MHz ram at 400fsb stable.

[asb2106]

What fsb and NB voltage are you running for those speeds? The Maximus and Rampage like NB volts. I have to run over 1.6V NB to get 1200MHz ram at 400fsb stable.

You know that could be my problem! I was able to stable out my rig with ram @1000 and CPU at 3.7 with 1.39 volts. I have to keep it low otherwise the thing gets HOTTTT! I have an Antec spot cool fan blowing right on it and even at 1.39 when the proc is loaded up the NB still gets to 45C. I hate hot NB's.

Im thinking of water cooling the NB and putting some sort of cooler on the SB. Im gonna be running 2 water loops anyways so I might as well add the NB to one of them. Does anyone know if the MCW30 will fit on the NB of the rampage??

Also.... I want to add TEC, if I put add a small peltier cooling to my loop, do you think it will create condensation? I really dont want to fry my board, but I am scared to spray coat it and insulate it, and use dieelectric grease. I have a good feeling doing all that will void my warranty!

[trog100]

You know that could be my problem! I was able to stable out my rig with ram @1000 and CPU at 3.7 with 1.39 volts. I have to keep it low otherwise the thing gets HOTTTT! I have an Antec spot cool fan blowing right on it and even at 1.39 when the proc is loaded up the NB still gets to 45C. I hate hot NB's.

Im thinking of water cooling the NB and putting some sort of cooler on the SB. Im gonna be running 2 water loops anyways so I might as well add the NB to one of them. Does anyone know if the MCW30 will fit on the NB of the rampage??

Also.... I want to add TEC, if I put add a small peltier cooling to my loop, do you think it will create condensation? I really dont want to fry my board, but I am scared to spray coat it and insulate it, and use dieelectric grease. I have a good feeling doing all that will void my warranty!

voiding your warranty is the least of your problems.. its voiding your sanity u should really be worried about.. :roll:

trog

[asb2106]

voiding your warranty is the least of your problems.. its voiding your sanity u should really be worried about.. :roll:

trog

he he, your right there, thats all i would worry about when Im away is condensation and a drip.... maybe I should avoid TEC. I really want those temps and headroom for the OCing though!

[InnocentCriminal]

Bloody 'ell - it's going to be interesting to see what I score once I've got my 3850.

MUHAHAHAHAHA... err... awww!

:(

[freaksavior]

he he, your right there, thats all i would worry about when Im away is condensation and a drip.... maybe I should avoid TEC. I really want those temps and headroom for the OCing though!

either way you have to much money.

my 3870 will be here thusday and me and DD are probably going to trade. my his is off to the egg to get replaced since it kept crashing at stock speed also

[asb2106]

either way you have to much money.

my 3870 will be here thusday and me and DD are probably going to trade. my his is off to the egg to get replaced since it kept crashing at stock speed also

no, I have no money, just a love for my computer, and no other real hobbies!!

[trog100]

either way you have to much money.

my 3870 will be here thusday and me and DD are probably going to trade. my his is off to the egg to get replaced since it kept crashing at stock speed also

how do u know its not the rest of your overclocked system that makes your card appear to crash at stock speeds.. the affect is the same..

trog

[freaksavior]

oh well there still off being rma'd.

i want a silverstone ST85F

[asb2106]

how do u know its not the rest of your overclocked system that makes your card appear to crash at stock speeds.. the affect is the same..

trog

good point, I just developed a new method for me when I OC my cards actually.

When I got the new mobo I wasnt sure what my stability issues were from, so I set the mobo to load the default settings, then found the sweet spot with the cards, then moved on to the ram & proc. I love the fact that my ASUS board allows me to save my OC settings, I can set my 24/7 clocks, my bench clocks, and then tweak from there. In case of a crash that needs the CMOS clear(which the rampage does on its own!) I can just revert to a clock that I know works!

Im a big fan of that feature

[freaksavior]

well should i get another psu or just not clock as high? or what. :/

[asb2106]

oh well there still off being rma'd.

i want a silverstone ST85F

thats a good PSU from what Ive read.

I was gonna get that myself, because I thought that I NEEDED modular, when really it didnt make that big of a difference.

I was gonna get the silverstone 1000w PSU, but I couldnt pass up the deal on the PC p & c 750!

[asb2106]

well should i get another psu or just not clock as high? or what. :/

See, about 99% of people would say your doing fine, and just stick with it and be happy.

So Ill chime in for the other 1 %. If you can swing it, get it! I gave up alot of bad habits to save money for my computer, and this way I have something to show for it!

Plus, once you leave home, youll prob be pretty broke for a while, so spend it on your computer instead of just wasting it somewhere else. Atleast this way your computer could make it a few years for you just as it is.

[erocker]

I know you aren't an OCZ fan, but the 750quads roll out of the same factory they always did. And they are solid as a rock!:)

[freaksavior]

maybe so, but i bought a 620 thinking oh well thats plenty of power and i ended up needing more. so i am just afraid a 750 is going to end up the same way.

modulere is nice but not essential. i will probably buy a new psu in about 4 weeks (i know thats a while)

[erocker]

750W isn't peak. Peak wattage (which is what most manufacturers advertise) is over 800Watts. Plenty of power!

[freaksavior]

well like i said before, when i asked about buying a new psu i said i probably would be a Q9450 oc it and get crossfire and they told me 620 would be fine. so yeah.

ok so 750 should be enough

[erocker]

Yes, it can power all the components in my PC untill they start on fire!:rockout: But I can only speak for the PCPower&Cooling, the finest PSU on earth!:)

[trog100]

well should i get another psu or just not clock as high? or what. :/

get it if u want but it wont help your overclock in the slightest.. u need to learn exactly what u are doing.. the real problem is when your entire system is near its limit u really can get confused and blame the wrong thing.. knowing exactly which piece of your too near the edge system thats causing the problem is hard without much experience..

nothing is 100% stable when its all near the edge.. find the edge then drop back 10%.. when u are trying too hard dropping back10% for stability requires losing too much from a benchmarking point of view.. it could be the difference between obsession and passion.. he he he

tooo much passion can soon become obsession.. having said that the only way to learn and get it out of your system is to do it.. but all this so called hardware bad luck u are having is down to u doing something wrong.. it aint the hardware its u.. ;)

but i think the only real way to learn is the hard way.. advice only goes so far..;)

trog

[freaksavior]

well so trog you say i don't need a new psu, mine is fine.
erocker your suggesting them but havent really said i actually need one or not.
asb2106...idk.

i think i should get this one http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/436/ultra_2000w_psu_rating.jpg
or maybe this one
http://www.coloradocollege.edu/Dept/PC/RepresentativePhy/Pages/Photoshop/Problem%20Pictures/Nuclear%20Plant.jpg

[trog100]

well so trog you say i don't need a new psu, mine is fine.
erocker your suggesting them but havent really said i actually need one or not.
asb2106...idk.

i think i should get this one http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/436/ultra_2000w_psu_rating.jpg
or maybe this one
http://www.coloradocollege.edu/Dept/PC/RepresentativePhy/Pages/Photoshop/Problem%20Pictures/Nuclear%20Plant.jpg

i recon the big one with the steam coming outta the top.. :D

just check the voltages on its 256000 volt rails before u buy thow to make sure.. :eek:

trog

[freaksavior]

:roll:

will do :)

seriously though if i can get a new psu for maybe 50-100 (after i sell my 620) i will probably buy a new one

[erocker]

Yeah, but that reactor tower looks a little generic to me. I don't trust generic PSU's.:laugh: Freak, I just realized that I have absolutely no quad-core overclocking experience whatsoever. So naturally I gave you an answer that I know. After reading up, there are folks that can't get where you are at with a quad at all. I hope that I'm not one of those when I get one. I truly hope that you get some really awesome cards for your RMA. Just for reference the S/N on my two cards are XXXXXX4321 and XXXXXX4326. I can deffinitely tell that one is better than the other as one idles at (no kidding) 28c in a 67f room while the other idles at 32c. Good luck, I'm pushing for you to hit that magic number. But remember, not every team can win the Superbowl every year. :toast:

[Nitro-Max]

Dont buy it its smoking already

[freaksavior]

lmao, you guys are hillarious.

I understand what your saying. my quad i think ive pushed it about as far as it will go. i hit 3.8 on 1.6v for bench and im not really gonna try for much more as 1.6 on a 1.25v stock is pushing it.

As far the cards, i hope so! Danish devil is going to trade me his HIS for my diamond if its modable

[Ninkobwi]

Is it common for the HIS 3870 cards to have bad memory OCs? for some reason I cant get mine to go above 1150 (thats a net increase of 20mhz! wth) Core does fine though at bout 890

[freaksavior]

Is it common for the HIS 3870 cards to have bad memory OCs? for some reason I cant get mine to go above 1150 (thats a net increase of 20mhz! wth) Core does fine though at bout 890

my HIS would only do about 1200 and crash. so honestly that doesn't surprise me.

ask erocker though, he may know more since he as dual HIS cards.

[Ninkobwi]

very well. Yo, Erock. question 2 posts up :P

[King Wookie]

Well, thx to my new axeram, things are looking better:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080409/3d06%20apr9.jpg

Umm, don't list yet, as I'm trying to find max o/c on my proc and mem, so it's still a work in progress.

Funny though, how I'm having to drop the o/c on my gfx mem. Would the fact that I'm now using cat 8.3 have any bearing?:wtf:

[nflesher87]

freak, mind adding me? http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=738521&postcount=1626

[freaksavior]

^^ sure, i'll do it now.

im not going to COMPLELY update the list though

[nflesher87]

^^ sure, i'll do it now.

im not going to COMPLELY update the list though

gotcha, I was under the impression you missed my post, didn't realize you haven't updated, thanks again

[freaksavior]

gotcha, I was under the impression you missed my post, didn't realize you haven't updated, thanks again

:roll: im just being lazy and not keeping this updated lol.

just been busy saving my $$ for my 40d and school, work, church, ect :confused:

[erocker]

Is it common for the HIS 3870 cards to have bad memory OCs? for some reason I cant get mine to go above 1150 (thats a net increase of 20mhz! wth) Core does fine though at bout 890

Yes, it unfortunately seems quite common. These cards are all over the board in terms of overclocking. You could try flashing the card(s) to a bios that supports more voltage, but it guarantees nothing. 890 for your core is very good without any type of pencil mod or otherwise. I have a feeling that these different memroy clocks are the result of HIS using varying bios' with different GDDR timings. I've seen at least 4 different pictures of PCB's that look the same, yet some have different/added/missing resistors etc.

[freaksavior]

updated

[ThatGuy16]

updated


I was at 4.4Ghz, and erocker has "color red" before the name :p :toast:

[erocker]

For Ninkobwi:

Here's how to set your fan(s) via Rivatuner:
When it asks, click "Detect Now".

[freaksavior]

I was at 4.4Ghz, and erocker has "color red" before the name :p :toast:

geeze so picky :nutkick:

fixed

[freaksavior]

should i use the stock cooler or should i use the vf900 i have, i would have to use the ram heatsinks the vf-900 came with.

[erocker]

Personally, I prefer exhausting air out the back. Is this for an IceQ cooler? If it is, deffinitely stick with that. Or... Test them both?

[repsol23]

I finally got my new mobo up and running stable, at least for now! I recently upgrade from a p4 3.2e to a e6700 and an Asrock Dual sata2. After having my Powercolor 3850 card for over a month I was ready to upgrade but still wanted to make use of my agp card. I have been able to get stable at a FSB of 284, my cpu is at 2.84 and vid card at 810/1026. My 3dmark06 score went from 7100+ to nearly 11K, I think with a few tweaks and my new Geil ram (should be here in a few days) I should be able to break the 11K mark!! I already modded an old waterblock (socket 478 Maze4 block) and used some 775 brackets to hold the block and have been able to chill this cpu down to 2C and ~17C full load (orthos). Too bad I dont have cpu voltage options, I think I could really do some high scores with this setup. Please don't post this score yet, I think I can still best this score yet!

[freaksavior]

Personally, I prefer exhausting air out the back. Is this for an IceQ cooler? If it is, deffinitely stick with that. Or... Test them both?

Well at 100% the fan is SO LOUD! and it will clock to about the same as the other his :banghead:

im thinking about flashing the card with a his turbo bios to see if it will oc to 850. going to check the V on the card though.

would that help at all though?

[freaksavior]

Personally, I prefer exhausting air out the back. Is this for an IceQ cooler? If it is, deffinitely stick with that. Or... Test them both?

Well at 100% the fan is SO LOUD! and it will clock to about the same as the other his :banghead:

im thinking about flashing the card with a his turbo bios to see if it will oc to 850. going to check the V on the card though.

would that help at all though?

also, My computer.

Whats the best way to have the fans blowing?

[HTC]

New high:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080410/3DMarks.png

Climbed 4 spaces, i believe :D

My new chipset cooler (Noctua NH-U6) came and i dared increasing a tad bit, and i also removed 2 of the 4 DIMMs i had. Still waiting for my new case and CPU cooler: can't find the NH-U9B cooler anywhere, here in Portugal ... ARGH ... i hope my hardware supplier can manage to get it ...

EDIT

I'm using Vista 64 SP1, btw.

[Nitro-Max]

the graphics card overclocked will help but i find it doesnt give as much points as a good cpu overclock good luck with it anyway freaksavior.

[Nitro-Max]

TBH m8 i can run 3.6ghz great with amazing temps but when i tweak the preformance options it puts alot more strain on the fsb and i had to crank up the NB voltage to get stable this also puts the overall cpu temps up too its a hard balance.

[erocker]

Well at 100% the fan is SO LOUD! and it will clock to about the same as the other his :banghead:

im thinking about flashing the card with a his turbo bios to see if it will oc to 850. going to check the V on the card though.

would that help at all though?

also, My computer.

Whats the best way to have the fans blowing?

Flashing the bios worked for me, so I can recommend it, though I'm starting to learn about Radeon Bios Editor right now.:)

For the fans, I always have sides and fronts blowing in, top and back blowing out.

[erocker]

Hmmm... just came across this bios with a PLL VCO Divider fix?! Could this be what your cards need freaksavior?!:)

After looking through the bios in the editor, it uses bone stock clocks. I'll try changing them to 850/1190.

Better yet though, could you give me your bios?
*I'm in the middle of trying to make a good HIS bios with turbo clocks and a fan locked in at around 89%.

[warup89]

This is the highest i can go right now, i might be able to get something higher after i get a better PSu and clock up my card again. :)

score: 17697
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7554/bestscoreib2.jpg

q6700 @ 3.6
RAM @ 886Mhz
GPU @ 800/900 [had to underclock 25hz because of my shitty PSU:shadedshu]

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Interesting how you magically gained points from your "Results" to your "Score" window.:wtf:

Looks like I better invest in the "Professional Edition", if that's what it does!:roll:

[erocker]

Interesting how you magically gained points from your "Results" to your "Score" window.:wtf:

Looks like I better invest in the "Professional Edition", if that's what it does!:roll:

Most likely from his previous run.;)

[warup89]

lol i didnt noticed that :laugh

[erocker]

Btw, warup, you should turn off as many processes and programs as possible when running 3d06. With all that stuff running that I see, your score is being hampered. TURN AERO OFF!!!

[warup89]

thats true, i left it open since i had enough ram to support it[i think], but nothing is better, ill run 3d mark again later today with all the extra stuff closed.;)

[freaksavior]

Hmmm... just came across this bios with a PLL VCO Divider fix?! Could this be what your cards need freaksavior?!:)

After looking through the bios in the editor, it uses bone stock clocks. I'll try changing them to 850/1190.

Better yet though, could you give me your bios?
*I'm in the middle of trying to make a good HIS bios with turbo clocks and a fan locked in at around 89%.

there ya go. i want 850 and maybe 1250 on the mem. i can hit 810 easy and 1200

[erocker]

there ya go. i want 850 and maybe 1250 on the mem. i can hit 810 easy and 1200

Hmm.. RBE won't let me open that file? (extracted) I'll find another Diamond bios and use that. Do you want your fan set at anything in particular? Do you want powerplay to lower your clocks in 2d/low power 3d mode?

*I think you're asking a bit much on the memory for a bios flash...

[erocker]

Also, freak, does your card support software voltage control? It's that horizontal or vertical resistor.

[erocker]

Well... here you go! I hope it works for you as I didn't increase the voltage, but I have it locked in at 850/1190 with 89% fan speed. Use at own risk. I really hope it works.:)

[freaksavior]

Also, freak, does your card support software voltage control? It's that horizontal or vertical resistor.

Not that i know of

Hmm.. RBE won't let me open that file? (extracted) I'll find another Diamond bios and use that. Do you want your fan set at anything in particular? Do you want powerplay to lower your clocks in 2d/low power 3d mode?

*I think you're asking a bit much on the memory for a bios flash...

I have no idea, and is 1250 to much? if so i can live with 1200


Well... here you go! I hope it works for you as I didn't increase the voltage, but I have it locked in at 850/1190 with 89% fan speed. Use at own risk. I really hope it works.:)

im about to head off to work so when i get back (6 1/2 hours) i'll flash it and see what we get. haven't ran 3dmark on it at all yet.

[Dr. Spankenstein]

I just flashed one last night that was 875/1250. Ran much cooler than the 830/1200 BIOS from iax-tech!
Some give your oodles of OC room in CCC (like 1500 core!) some only got to 900 or so.

[erocker]

Dr., can you post that bios, I'd love to take a look at it!;)

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Here are the latest I've been switching between. The HD3780OC is the one I mentioned.

The second one might interest you. It kinda follows the comment I made regarding Powerplay issues (if you notice any).

[erocker]

Ahh, that second one may be have the magic settings I've been looking for, for my card. I'm going to up that fan speed though. Thank you very much!:toast:

[kup]

15314 :toast: hd3870 1080 core 1323 mem 1.75 vcore
http://img.techpowerup.org/080312/15314mark.jpg

3870 XT is vmodded. Hardmod with removable 100K VR so I can disable it as and when I choose. Will post pics once my circuit board arrives so I can build the switch into the mod.

Currently @ 1025MHz with 1.525v on the Core @ only 40*c 100% GPU Load. :cool:

I'll post some new scores tomorrow night after work... :pimp: Suffice to say I fully intend to blow away the quoted score! :eek: :D

[erocker]

Freaking awesome kup!!!:toast: If you could post a tutorial on how to perform the v-mod that would be very helpful!:D

[kup]

Freaking awesome kup!!!:toast: If you could post a tutorial on how to perform the v-mod that would be very helpful!:D

I'll see what I can do. Each card is different and each brand/revision/SKU has different points to Solder to but I'll see if I can round up a few of the more common ones and get a guide going.

I think if I can hit 1100MHz Core on air I'll be happy! :eek: :D

[kup]

Is it just myself and TheHaunted with hardmodded card here?

[The Haunted]

I don't think you can reach 1100 mhz. You would need to remove the overvoltage protection
and change some hardware on the card to handle the stress :slap:
1080 is the limit i reached and its very unstable, just enough to run 3dmark and fur with some
light artifacting:D

[asb2106]

Is it just myself and TheHaunted with hardmodded card here?

I got my trim pots comin in this week from Dr Spankentein - THANKS DUDE U ROCK!

So im gonna have a crossfire hard mod water cooled this weekend! Im gunning for 24k Thats the goal. Also Im gonna be posting my bios settings for alittle help to get some more out of my proc. I can do a very unstable 4.05, it sometimes completes 3dmark, sometimes not. I can run a 4.0 stable for about an hour or so 100% Also my ram is being a pain. I know nothing of these new x48 boards so Ill be looking for help!!

Im gonna put it in my sig real soon

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Is it just myself and TheHaunted with hardmodded card here?


Nope, I'm hard. Look here (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=735498&postcount=774).;)

I need my X38 board and a new proc to make the fly. I benched Fur @ over 1GHz.:rockout:

[asb2106]

Nope, I'm hard. Look here (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=735498&postcount=774).;)

I need my X38 board and a new proc to make the fly. I benched Fur @ over 1GHz.:rockout:

Dr That is so clean, and I like the jumper on there! Im alittle worried about diving into the hard mod, but Im sure I can do it!!

Im gonna have to go buy a multi meter this week. Can i just turn it up every so slowely then check the bios through software?? Or is their a very safe place to monitor voltages at??

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Yup, DMM is a must! Don't trust software voltage readings. You can get one for >$10.

The voltage read points are the parallel solder points for the caps here:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080411/HardModannotated.jpg

[asb2106]

Yup, DMM is a must! Don't trust software voltage readings. You can get one for >$10.

The voltage read points are the parallel solder points for the caps here:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080411/HardModannotated.jpg

Im not worried bout the cost, its just last time I was doing the pencil mod on my 3870 I fried the card testing the voltage there. I still dont really know what happened but I obviously shorted something!

[erocker]

Wow Doc, that mod looks great!:rockout:

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Thanks! I did it around Christmastime and have been having much fun ever since!

[erocker]

I'm just waiting without reason to vmod my cards. I'm scared, mostly I don't want to lose the money on a burnt up card. I'm waiting for my resistor for my old 8800GTS 640 though. The card already does 720 on the core, I really want to get it to 800 and see what a big ol' G80 core really can do!:)

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Gots a few more trim pots if you need 'em.

[erocker]

All I need is a 500ohm variable resistor! Start at it's highest setting and tune it down to increase the voltage. And a very steady hand to solder it in. I'll just have to do it on a "no coffee" day.:)

[Dr. Spankenstein]

All I have is 100K ohm trimmers.

[erocker]

Nah, resistor is ordered, I'm just waiting for it. I still have yet to measure the voltage on this thing... , though I did just recently install a Zerotherm cooler on it, though I haven't checked temps yet. Both my machines are proudly running ATi at the moment, and I don't want the disaster of swapping a nVidia card back in one without re-installing Windows again. It gets sooo tedious sometimes...

[Dr. Spankenstein]

As info, I loaded the Cat. 8.3 hotfix (http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=33033)drivers last night w/ both cards and CF bridge installed. No problems. Maybe they ARE getting this stuff worked out.:)

[repsol23]

I finally broke the 11K barrier:rockout: I have actually been able to get my mobo stable up to FSB of 315 but hopefully with my new ram I can increase this a bit more!!

[freaksavior]

ran fur mark for 10min

no artifact.

thanks erocker.

should i be happy with 850 lol?//

[erocker]

I'm curious if you can OC over 850! Can you?:cool:

[freaksavior]

artifacts at 864. probably needs more volts ;)

[erocker]

We can rule out the "clock lock", since it's a newer bios. Does your card have the horizontal, or vertical resistor? It won't take a voltage adjustment, or it will. Oh, does it stay at 850 in 2d mode too? It's supposed to.

[freaksavior]

have no idea, been using ati tool

[erocker]

You don't happen to have any high res pictures of the back of the card do you? Or did you post one on the thread that W1zzard started about it here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=53220 ?

[freaksavior]

yeah, i do. its this one here. SUPER HI RES

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/3870001.jpg

[erocker]

Short of a hardmod, it won't take any more volts unfortunately. 860-ish isn't too bad though.:toast:

[freaksavior]

oh well

[kup]

LMAO! :eek: :D I've half killed my card. The resistor that usually regulates voltage is dead/gone/no more, so I have to have the mod to get anything at all from the card... :banghead:

I redid the mod, ya'see, because I was having a few problems with it when I was reinserting the VR (acted as though mod wasn't there) so I hardmodded it without a fail-safe and in the process killed the card...kinda... lol :D

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Glad to hear it's not dead!:eek:

Were you trying to work something like this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=616376&postcount=239)?

It's the only thing I could think of when you said: "remove the VR".

I just used a 3-pin fan header and a jumper to enable/disable the mod.

[Spirou]

Pardon me, i'm in tears... lol

13514

Needless to say, it runs Crysis-Demo as smooth as a pussy and CMR DiRT at maxed settings without any drop even with ten cars on track (almost winning on 1st attempt even with kb which isn't possible when there is the slightest stuttering).

Maximus Formula this month and q6600 next, or the other way round?

Shame, shame, shame :shadedshu

[kup]

Glad to hear it's not dead!:eek:

Were you trying to work something like this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=616376&postcount=239)?

It's the only thing I could think of when you said: "remove the VR".

I just used a 3-pin fan header and a jumper to enable/disable the mod.

Yeah, something very similar. I've removed the fail-safe now as it was interferring with the mod. Does anyone know the OCP and OVP mods and which one would be best for going over 1.5v without a black screen?

[erocker]

Pardon me, i'm in tears... lol

13514

Needless to say, it runs Crysis-Demo as smooth as a pussy and CMR DiRT at maxed settings without any drop even with ten cars on track (almost winning on 1st attempt even with kb which isn't possible when there is the slightest stuttering).

Maximus Formula this month and q6600 next, or the other way round?

Shame, shame, shame :shadedshu

You'll probablly have to get both at the same time.

[freaksavior]

Pardon me, i'm in tears... lol

13514

Needless to say, it runs Crysis-Demo as smooth as a ****** and CMR DiRT at maxed settings without any drop even with ten cars on track (almost winning on 1st attempt even with kb which isn't possible when there is the slightest stuttering).

Maximus Formula this month and q6600 next, or the other way round?

Shame, shame, shame :shadedshu

WOAH! lets sensor that languege!

[Spirou]

WOAH! lets sensor that languege!

What's wrong with my sympathy for hunting felidae?

You know, i'm talking about those maneaters with that shiny fur on it which we all feel invited to stroke sometimes :D
Ah, thinking about it makes me smile, just like my SKU 11122-05. Did i mention, that she's slightly beneath 37 degrees when idle and just noticable hotter when i put my hand on her long, shiny, ahm... heatpipes while gaming?

<- and she's an extraordinary outstanding beauty, isn't she? A bit lazy like a cat, but who cares... :rolleyes:

EDIT: Forgot the proof. Have to say, this is with stock heatsink (on air) and it doesn't get higher ingame.

Idle cat: 13517 hot cat: 13518 running Oblivion: 13519

PS Did i mention that she can't be heard at load even with one's head sticking in the tower?

PPS I've flashed a V79 from a newly shipped Toxic, since it came with V67. Defaults are 800/1126, 1.241V and 1.327V AFAIK it contains minor bugfixes also. Added latest Sapphire BIOS (unmodified): 13526

[intel igent]

hey freeksaviour think you could add 3850AGP's to the list?

:toast:

[kup]

Flashed back to the Sapphire .77 Bios and I can increase the voltage above 1.525v again. I knew it was the damn HIS bios that was doing it... :eek:

[King Wookie]

Please update when you are able:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080412/12%20apr%203D06.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=6226498&resultType=14

I'm told these mb's don't do over 500 fsb. Next week I'm going to try and go further.:D

Gotta admit, didn't expect to hit these clocks at all, nevermind with so little drama.:rockout:

Question is, is this a 24/7 viable overclock?

[ThatGuy16]

how good is this axeram? I'm thinking about getting some

I can't get my ram stable to do a 4.5ghz run to save my life, i even tried 6-8-8-20 at 2.35v. And that was a no-go :roll:

[Azazel]

new score

http://img.techpowerup.org/080413/oc2a.jpg

[Kei]

This is the best I've done so far in 06 today when tweaking the core speed. I tested (really quickly) the memory speed last night to 2700Mhz but I only did that in one big jump. I'll tweak the memory speed a bit later but I'm MORE than happy with what I have achieved so far. Best achieve before voltage change was 880/2700 (voltage changed in CCC profile not hardware mods).

3Ghz Phenom 9850 (stock voltage, no effort)
500Mhz Ram 5-5-5-15-11 2T
2Ghz Northbridge
2Ghz HT Link (4Ghz effective speed)

Diamond HD3870 931/2700

K

http://www.pbase.com/kamukix/image/95579184/original.jpg

[HTC]

I've done it again :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080413/3DMarks.png

Using Vista 64 SP1: 1st time i tried to overclock using 8 multi instead of 9. I managed to take it into windows @ 3840 but it crash as soon as OCCT started full load and this speed is the only one i managed to complete 3DMarks @.

DAMN: still haven't managed to get the NH-U9B cpu cooler from my hardware supplier. As far as i can tell, this cooler is not being sold ANYWHERE in Portugal ... ARGH!!!!!

[Dr. Spankenstein]

@ Kei,

That is a top notch score! Can't wait to see what you get once you tweak it some more!:toast:

@ HTC,

You are just living on the edge! You repeatedly said you wouldn't push without your cooler, case and something else I can't remember. The urge to bench is too strong, do not try to resist.

Step this way, we are indoctrinating more 3DM06 minions at this very moment.:D

[HTC]

@ Kei,

That is a top notch score! Can't wait to see what you get once you tweak it some more!:toast:

@ HTC,

You are just living on the edge! You repeatedly said you wouldn't push without your cooler, case and something else I can't remember. The urge to bench is too strong, do not try to resist.

Step this way, we are indoctrinating more 3DM06 minions at this very moment.:D

You're right, but that was with a 9 multi. This is my 1st bench with an 8 multi.

To reach higher with a 9 multi, i would have to increase the voltage, yet again, but with an 8 multi, i used the same voltage that i used with my last "9 multi" 3DMarks score.

In BIOS, VCore voltage is @ 1.525 but it drops to 1.42 @ full load. Ofc: i only go this high for benching. If only i could get that darn pencil mod to work: ARGH!!!

[Kei]

@ Kei,

That is a top notch score! Can't wait to see what you get once you tweak it some more!:toast:

Thanks for the compliment I believe I can still go higher without upping the voltage I think. I never installed that Vista patch for 3dmark06 so I don't know if that'll do anything with my scores but it might. My temps didn't go over 67C during that testing with 95% fan speed (the same fan speed I used when doing the 8800GT OC tune I finished recently). I never even got CLOSE to those scores though with the 8800GT though but that's prolly due to the memory DDR4 on this card (well maybe not the core clock but still).

K

[HTC]

Thanks for the compliment I believe I can still go higher without upping the voltage I think. I never installed that Vista patch for 3dmark06 so I don't know if that'll do anything with my scores but it might. My temps didn't go over 67C during that testing with 95% fan speed (the same fan speed I used when doing the 8800GT OC tune I finished recently). I never even got CLOSE to those scores though with the 8800GT though but that's prolly due to the memory DDR4 on this card (well maybe not the core clock but still).

K

What Vista patch?

[Kei]

I remember hearing something about a Hotfix about a month ago or so about 3dmark06 and windows.

K

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Your 9850 saved the day. 2.9GHz on my E6600 nets me 2502 CPUMarks vs. your 4078!

[Kei]

Haha, yea that is a pretty nice score for a quad core processor regardless of company. That's still a good score for a dual though as well! I know there is more left in it but I'm sticking with 3Ghz for a while until I feel it's near time to upgrade again and then I might clock it a bit further but 3Ghz is more than enough for most anything multithreaded or not.

K

[Kei]

Okay the final scores that I could bench at stable with the same level of voltage is 918Mhz core and 2830Mhz (wow) memory. I think I could do more if I upped the voltage a bit but I'm not sure if I will yet. I wanna make sure that this is perfectly stable in all applications. I have already tested the 918-2700 in Unreal 3 and Crysis without any problems after 30-45 minute runs in each. Crysis plays a lot better now with those settings I must say (on Very High for testing). It's still not as good as an 8800GT OC for Crysis playing but it's EXCELLENT for anything thing else. I'm still using the 8.3 drivers (Xtreme-G version) but I know the drivers are what's giving Crysis it's issues with the card. It plays everything else just as good if not way better than the 8800GT OC did.

Excellent card, can't wait til I put the 2nd one in :).

K

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Niether can we! Awesome clocks from a non-modded card!

[freaksavior]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080414/4050.jpg

what the heck?!

http://img.techpowerup.org/080414/q6600.jpg

[sneekypeet]

3D06 does the math based on the max multi....myE6400 read 4.0GHz when I was testing 7X500 for benching.(multi max is 8 )