Post your 3dmark06 HD 3K Series Results

[dark2099]

Higher clocks on the card.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080516/Capture011.jpg

[Kirby123]

my res is 1280X1024, aa 24X af 24X.... my fps on css is around 200-400

[imperialreign]

update to my last post:


she ain't hitting 4GHz just yet . . . it'll POST, but drops the ball soon as it gets into the OS boot screen.

I took vcore as high as 1.68, NSB as high as 1.71, DRAM at 1.9, FSB term 1.45, CPU GTL at 63x, NSB at 67x, I even risked bumping CPU PLL to 1.55

no change at all, it broke down the same way each time.

if it require more vcore, I can do that, but I'm not willing to start plugging the overcharging feature until I'm on liquid - I might be crazy, but I'm not insane.



Oh, well . . .

[Bytor]

UPDATE

http://i27.tinypic.com/332nnt0.jpg

[imperialreign]

updated score:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2622/bus425dc5.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bus425dc5.jpg)



also, I've done some testing here with my two cards - and they seem to be very heavily dependant on CPU clock; I can't imagine so, but they sure seem to act bottlenecked by the CPU.


changes to the SYS BUS while keeping the CPU clock the same results in very little to no change in 3m06 scores.

changes to the GPU clocks while keeping the SYS the same results in moderate changes to scores, but not much to go screaming over

changes, though, to the CPU clock nets drastic changes in 3m scores, in all 3 areas . . .


. . . interesting . . .

[Kirby123]

i wanna oc my processor like 400mhz...
i forgot how -.- been so long since i have clocked anything back when the 478 sockets just came out.......
can anyone help me? pvt message me if you can
ty

[adigehalil]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/466/3d06x23dm1.jpg

[Kirby123]

well i have the E8400 LGA 775 3.0Ghz, i want to know how high i can oc it with a stock fan that comes with the processor. if anyone could help me i would be greatful

[dark2099]

well i have the E8400 LGA 775 3.0Ghz, i want to know how high i can oc it with a stock fan that comes with the processor. if anyone could help me i would be greatful

Each chip is different, so the max you will get out of yours might be different that someone elses, and wrong thread.

[Kirby123]

oops, well my 3d mark 06 every time i run it i cant get all the results like everyone else has. i dont understand why. it wont allow me to change the settings or anything it just runs and then i click that thing to bring me to a site that compaires it to the best computer and thats all i can see. dostn tell me score or anything

[freaksavior]

well i have the E8400 LGA 775 3.0Ghz, i want to know how high i can oc it with a stock fan that comes with the processor. if anyone could help me i would be grateful

What bin is it? google for your bin number and you can see what your oc will be (about not guaranteed) mine is 4.5ghz+ stable binned but i haven't tried stable for more than 4.0. the only downside of my E8400 is if i want a solid 4 i need 1.5v

[DanishDevil]

oops, well my 3d mark 06 every time i run it i cant get all the results like everyone else has. i dont understand why. it wont allow me to change the settings or anything it just runs and then i click that thing to bring me to a site that compaires it to the best computer and thats all i can see. dostn tell me score or anything

That's because you didn't pay for the advanced version. It does tell you the score; It's on that page it takes you to.

[Kirby123]

aw man :(

[nflesher87]

did we abandon updated the list?

[Dr. Spankenstein]

I hope not! Here's my latest.

Comparo (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6769701).

http://img.techpowerup.org/080518/TipTop.png

[imperialreign]

nice, man; and I'm diggin the clocks on that 3870 and CPU :toast:


now, if only I could hit 4GHz with this quad . . . gotta wait for liquid, though; I don't think my 9700 can handle it . . .

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Thanks man! That quad will kill me when you get it up to 4GHz...

Let me know when you're ready to clock the snot outta those cards! We'll hook you up!

[imperialreign]

Thanks man! That quad will kill me when you get it up to 4GHz...

Let me know when you're ready to clock the snot outta those cards! We'll hook you up!

cool - you h20 cooling those 3870s?


I'm eggin to get this CPU up some more, I've come to the conclusion these 2 3870s of mine are scaling with the CPU . . . which is why my 3m06 scores seems a little low - highest I've hit so far is 18406, and that's at 3.8Ghz on the CPU.

but, damn, from what I can see so far, this Q6600 is going to require more than 1.7 vcore to even boot to the desktop at 4GHz. 450 BUS is stable at x8 multi, but she can't handle x9 yet.



I've been tempted, though, to make a suicide run of it :p

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Naw, stock coolers on mine still, though I've been eyeballin' those EK blocks...

As mind-boggling as it may seem, you are correct about the bottleneck. These cards are red-hot monsters. Give them more room to breathe and they will continue to surprise you.

I'm rooting for you to get to the 4GHz mark. Like I told fitseries3, it's an exhilarating experience computing at these high clock speeds. He described it as "precognition" how fast the computer was responding!

[imperialreign]

Naw, stock coolers on mine still, though I've been eyeballin' those EK blocks...

As mind-boggling as it may seem, you are correct about the bottleneck. These cards are red-hot monsters. Give them more room to breathe and they will continue to surprise you.

I'm rooting for you to get to the 4GHz mark. Like I told fitseries3, it's an exhilarating experience computing at these high clock speeds. He described it as "precognition" how fast the computer was responding!

even at 3.6 it screams - I was shocked to find out, though, the CPU is bottlenecking them, even with both cards sitting in PCIE 2.0 slots :twitch: . . . my only issue with going above that speed, though, is this damn DDR3 doesn't seem to want to run anything over 1600MHz :banghead:

at 425 BUS, and the DRAM set at 1700MHz at 10-10-10-30 timings at 1.9v - no POST; but if I leave everything the same and lock the DRAM to the next frequency down (which is like 1350, or something), it'll boot and be stable :banghead:

It's not like they're cheap or lower-mid range sticks, and OCZ is known for clocking well - I'm hoping it's a BIOS issue and it will be resolved with the next update. It's frustrating to lose 300+ MHz on DRAM that prefers more MHz, y'know?

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Hrmm, I'm not terrible familiar with DDR3 specs, but isn't 1600 around the top end for speed?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around OCing X38 chipsets. My Gigabyte BIOS isn't helping any...

I honestly can't get my E8500 Orthos or Prime stable @ 4.5GHz no matter WHAT I do.

Very. Frustrating.

[Kirby123]

are you on air? i can go up to 4.1 on air stable with my E8400

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Yup. Still using the ol' Tuniq until I figure out how I want to configure my new setup. Heck, I don't even have it fastened to the backplate, just sitting top with the Ceramique suction holing it on. Temps are fine. Just seems to be an issue with how this chip likes (or dislikes for that matter) voltages.

I can Prime 95 forever @ 4.15 with 1.37V. I'm just looking for the magic step to get 4.5 adn above stable. Voltages don't seem to help. As soon as I start the test on both cores...reboot. I've gone as high as 1.54V which should be plenty. RAM is running 1:1 with FSB.

[ThatGuy16]

Finally!! :respect:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6775120
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/20kyeah.jpg

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Congrats! :toast:

That has to be a load off your mind! I've been seeing you everywhere trying to get your chip to bench @ 4.6 and break 20k.

What was the magic sauce? Was the 4GB of RAM holding up the show? You would have had to kick the NB volts up, but like you've stated-it gets HOT!

I'm still struggling with my GB board. Stability seems elusive over 4.3 with moderate volts.

Again, great job!!! :D

[ThatGuy16]

Thanks!

The magic sauce, this whole time... all it needed was a bios update :laugh:

Hmm, maybe a 4.7Ghz run is my next goal

Edit: i'm right behind you, you better watch out! :ohwell:

[imperialreign]

Hrmm, I'm not terrible familiar with DDR3 specs, but isn't 1600 around the top end for speed?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around OCing X38 chipsets. My Gigabyte BIOS isn't helping any...

I honestly can't get my E8500 Orthos or Prime stable @ 4.5GHz no matter WHAT I do.

Very. Frustrating.

DDR3 1600 is mid-high range for speed, but not top of the heap. Typical speed ratings above that are 1800 and 2000. I think OCZ has even released some new offerings that go above that.

But, OCZ Platinum series are mid-upper end sticks; not low-end or run of the mill mid-range, so I expected at least a little something above what they're rated.


TBH, though, the issue might even be X38 related - that NSB doesn't clock like older Intel chipsets did; and I've found at least with this board, "peculiar" instabilites seem to revolve around NSB configuration . . . i.e. I can bench the CPU with something like Prime or ScienceMark, and it benches fine, but a second or two after the bench is complete and the system hangs or reboots?! Bump NSB voltage a tad .0125 and it's fine . . . :shadedshu

picky-picky little beast

[dark2099]

Switched to Vista 64. New score.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080519/Capture002.jpg

[Spirou]

No use in modding one's BIOS to 850 MHz for Core. You can change core clock by 13.5 MHz per step, so it has to be 837 MHz or 851 MHz. Memory clock steps 9 MHz.

BTW i'm slowest on 3dmark but no. 30 on FurBench. Maybe fastest score on stock voltage: 3866 at 945/1350.

14555 14556

No voltmod and stock cooling, this card is a unbelievable :-)

Haven't tried FurMark @ 958 MHz yet...

[mep916]

Finally!! :respect:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6775120


:toast:

[imperialreign]

No use in modding one's BIOS to 850 MHz for Core. You can change core clock by 13.5 MHz per step, so it has to be 837 MHz or 851 MHz. Memory clock steps 9 MHz.

BTW i'm slowest on 3dmark but no. 30 on FurBench. Maybe fastest score on stock voltage: 3866 at 945/1350.

14555 14556

No voltmod and stock cooling, this card is a unbelievable :-)

Haven't tried FurMark @ 958 MHz yet...

I flashed both my cards to 851 core same day I installed them :D

sadly, though, they downclock themselves to 837, which means I need to set the core higher in BIOS . . . I just haven't done so yet.

even though you might be able to overclock both cards in Crossfire, I prefer to make sure both cards are running the same speed by used of a configured BIOS.




I just noticed something odd . . . what do y'all make of this:

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/05/19/eda.png

that's supposed to be the primary card, but GPU-Z doesn't seem to be reading the clocks correctly . . . although, it does read correctly for the secondary

[imperialreign]

sorry for the double post, but updated score:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1159/3m06si3.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3m06si3.jpg)



juiced another 200 out of them so far, again at 3.8GHz

but . . . I FINALLY GOT THIS DAMN DRAM TO RUN OVER 1600MHZ!!!11!!2!!#$!1 w()()TtT!! :rockout:

had to break out my voodoo sticks and start swinging some chickens, but hell . . . it works :D It might only be running 1700MHz, but that's a major improvement over nothing before, and still running the same timings, too

damn, it's those little achievements that just tickle the panties, ain't it? :laugh:




That will be the last run from me until I go liquid on the CPU. 3.8GHz is pushing the cores WAAAYYY too far in the heat department, I can about smell the AS5 cooking off the IHS with 4 cores topping out at 85C . . . I've punished this quad enough for the time being, pulling it back down to 3.6GHz.

The way it looks right now, though, 4GHz is 100% possible, and I think I'll be able to keep it stable as well (if 450BUS at x8 multi and stable is any indicator, all I need is enough vcore to keep x9 multi stable).

So, I'll be chillin for a month or so . . . unless y'all feel like donating goodies :D







BTW - curious, what CAT version is everyone running, and has anyone noticed performance differences between CAT releases? I've been running 8.4, and I'm considering rolling back to 8.2 tomorrow just to see how that pans out . . .

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Aw sh!t, here he comes!!!

Can't wait to see what happens, waterboy! ;)

[Kirby123]

lets say i upgrade from 667 ram to 1066 will that bump up my mark 06 score?

[imperialreign]

Aw sh!t, here he comes!!!

Can't wait to see what happens, waterboy! ;)

:D

snaked another 100 off of 'em just now - although, that IS my FINAL run at 3.8GHz until I'm under liquid


http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4771/3m06dv7.jpg



Still not sure why I'm not running closer to similar speced systems . . . but I wonder, though, if heat from the CPU is slowing down performance . . . how many others are liquid cooled or running more efficient air coolers than I?

[Dr. Spankenstein]

It's like the Pringles tag: "Once you pop, you can't stop!" :D

I think you're right where you should be. It's your cards clocks that are holding your score back. 3.8GHz should give them some elbow room to push a few more points out.

My old E6600 @ 3.8 net me 17297. But look how the marks break down:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080520/Picture0003.png

You've got more dormant power in your cards. RELEASE THE FURY!:rockout:

[imperialreign]

It's like the Pringles tag: "Once you pop, you can't stop!" :D

I think you're right where you should be. It's your cards clocks that are holding your score back. 3.8GHz should give them some elbow room to push a few more points out.

My old E6600 @ 3.8 net me 17297. But look how the marks break down:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080520/Picture0003.png

You've got more dormant power in your cards. RELEASE THE FURY!:rockout:

yeah, I'm gonna play with the card some more, highest stable OC I reached so far was 877/1278 before it started artifacting - from what I've read, though, it can go higher with a newer BIOS

if I can get a really decent OC out of both of these cards, then I might make one more suicide run at 3.8G - but I'm really pushing it with what temps the cores are topping out at - 85C is rather warm

[Kirby123]

i have always had higher scores on xp than vista, i forgot what os there replacing vista with, it starts with a v and thats all i know. vista is about to stop being made

[Whilhelm]

Updated my bench Running 8.5 Cats and Stock clocks on my X2

[dark2099]

lets say i upgrade from 667 ram to 1066 will that bump up my mark 06 score?

I can't say 100% for sure, but I would imagine there would be some increase (not much since I don't believe the ram is really tested) because information being read and written by/through the ram would be able done so faster.

[dark2099]

Now for my first post with a Intel CPU, bested my single card setup on my 5000+BE by about 900 points.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080521/Capture004709.jpg

[Kirby123]

i want my friends score!!!. but i have to get another video card :( he has 45k on his mark 06

[dark2099]

i want my friends score!!!. but i have to get another video card :( he has 45k on his mark 06

Not to argue semantics but if he has 45k on 06 then he has the fastest system in the world considering the fastest recorded by Futuremark currently is 32k.

[Kirby123]

he hasnt registered mark 06 since he is cheap. but he is running a 5.8 ghz quad extreem.... with 8 gb gddr3 ram........ his computer is godlike compaired to mine.... he has crossfireX liquid cooled, i have to ask him his ocing on his video card

[dark2099]

Got the CPU a tad higher. new score, man I can't wait till I get a decient board and can go Crossfire again.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080521/Capture006501.jpg

[Wile E]

he hasnt registered mark 06 since he is cheap. but he is running a 5.8 ghz quad extreem.... with 8 gb gddr3 ram........ his computer is godlike compaired to mine.... he has crossfireX liquid cooled, i have to ask him his ocing on his video card

Don't have to register 06 to submit the score to the Orb. Free version does it just fine. And liquid cooled isn't gonna get him 45000 pts in 06. Probably thinking of 05.

[Kirby123]

no im pritty sure it is 06 because how come i cant submite mine? i have the free version.... i got 22k on my 3d mark 06

[erocker]

Kirby, take a screenshot of your 3d06 score, cpu-z, and gpu-z. Btw, your friends system cannot do 45k in 3dMark06. Not possible with his hardware.

[ThatGuy16]

You can submit to ORB with the free version. 22k with the E8400? what were you at 5.0Ghz, or volt modded X2? :wtf:

[Wile E]

no im pritty sure it is 06 because how come i cant submite mine? i have the free version.... i got 22k on my 3d mark 06

Go here: http://service.futuremark.com/index.action

Sign up, log in, run 3DMark06. When 06 is done running, click the Submit button. You can have up to 5 runs stored on ORB with the free versions. If you already have 5, but want to run again, all you have to do is delete a score or 2.

[dark2099]

Back to crossfire (only 16, 4x though :(), got the CPU a little higher.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080525/Capture001.jpg

[Kirby123]

so 3d mark 06 is free? i dont have a registry thingy... well i dont know how.. i want my score to show up like everyone else... when i ran mark 06 i got 22k on Xp 32bit sp2. i had it oc 918/1053 both cores on gpu and cpu at 3.6ghz on a E8400 with DDR2 1066 g.skill ram

[Wile E]

so 3d mark 06 is free? i dont have a registry thingy... well i dont know how.. i want my score to show up like everyone else... when i ran mark 06 i got 22k on Xp 32bit sp2. i had it oc 918/1053 both cores on gpu and cpu at 3.6ghz on a E8400 with DDR2 1066 g.skill ram

Yes, 3dmark06 is free. You don't have to register. You can only see your score online with the free version tho.

[WOutZoR]

My search for 20K 3DMark06:

http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08210/3dmark06_19232531.png.xs.jpg (http://xs127.xs.to/xs127/08210/3dmark06_19232531.png)
Clickable

Catalyst 8.5
Rig in sig ;)

[dark2099]

Found what seems to be my highest stable OC on the CPU. Final run till I either get my cpu higher or a rebuild probably.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080525/Capture005142.jpg

[freaksavior]

Found what seems to be my highest stable OC on the CPU. Final run till I either get my cpu higher or a rebuild probably.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080525/Capture005142.jpg

thats not to bad!

[dark2099]

Fiddling with my OC some more, got another 100 (exactly) points with dropping my multi and upping the FSB, also, that is over 1k better than my 5kBE did with crossfire running at 16x,16x, with this Intel setup its only 16x,4x. Hoping to mebbe break 15k.

[freaksavior]

updated...everything should be in order now.

[Kirby123]

once i updated my driver to 8.5 i couldnt oc it as high anymore....

[dark2099]

Think I might have found the max OC in the CPU for now, most likely limited by my ram. Anyway, here is the latest score.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080526/Capture010283.jpg

[Spirou]

I flashed both my cards to 851 core same day I installed them :D

sadly, though, they downclock themselves to 837, which means I need to set the core higher in BIOS . . . I just haven't done so yet.

Sometimes BIOS-Editors change the settings due to limitations of the checksum logic. Unfortunately they don't give a warning and ignore the divider limitations, so ona has to save the BIOS, load again and check. I had to play around with the values to get the clocks i wanted into my BIOS.

PS I'm planning to put an IFX-14 on my P4 to get ahead of all those Athlons next week. We'll see!

[repsol23]

updated...everything should be in order now.

I hate to mention this because I feel as though I am becoming a thorn in your side, but my score is still somewhat incorrect. While my info. is absolutely up to date and correct, I am still listed under an incorrect heading.

11271 - repsol23 - E6700 @ 3.15ghz[color] 3850 AGP @ 837 Core 1026 Mem - XP SP3

should be listed in the 3850 section not the 3870. I have recently acquired a 3870 but still working on my setup for now!! Will post a score for that sometime soon. Thanks for all the hard work!!

[WOutZoR]

updated...everything should be in order now.

Thanks for adding my score but some information seems to be incorrect.

4. 19232 - WOutZoR - Xenon E3110 @ 4.25Ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1266 Mem - XP

should be:

4. 19232 - WOutZoR - Xeon E3110 @ 4.25Ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1260 Mem - Vista

Thanks :toast:

[freaksavior]

Ok, thats fine. i'll update them.

updated

[Kirby123]

i want my video card stable!!!!

it crashes sometimes on mark 06....
i dunno how to bump up the voltage on my pci e slot -.- on a p5k....
anyone have one and can help me make my oc video card stable?

[dark2099]

There are 2 ways to increase the voltage, either with a BIOS Editing program or volt mod, either by sodering or by pencil modding, neither of which I would know how to do on a 3870X2.

[imperialreign]

curious - what do y'all consider "in range" for GPU temps on the 3870s?

I've been playing through Crysis again (hell of a lot more fun with 3870s compared to 1950 PROs), and I've noticed GPU temps topping out at 97C . . . and it seems to be enough that occassionally I'll lose a card. Doesn't happen all the time, only every now and then.

Anyhow, I know 90C is still alright, I just don't know what the thermal ceiling of the GPU is.

[freaksavior]

97c is hot yes, but as trog has said many times, the 3870's are ok running that.

i got 2 good coolers for sale if you want to change your cooling. also take a look at my reveiw of the tt vs the zalman. good info there

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58586

[imperialreign]

97c is hot yes, but as trog has said many times, the 3870's are ok running that.

i got 2 good coolers for sale if you want to change your cooling. also take a look at my reveiw of the tt vs the zalman. good info there

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58586

I didn't think 97C would be too much of a problem, but it did raise concerns considering the occasional loss of a GPU while gaming.


I'm half considering going liquid cooled on the cards as well - I intend for liquid cooling next month for the CPU, if I can afford it, I might purchase enough other components for a second independant loop for the two GPUs. So far, the stock coolers seem fairly efficient -

[ThatGuy16]

Before i flashed one of my cards, the fan wouldn't turn up on load. And playing crysis my card got up to 98*c :twitch:.

But now, one runs at about 80c load and the other, 75c. Still warm, but i'm not changing the cooler yet because i may be selling them soon :p

[Kirby123]

so no one knows how to bios volt bump with a p5k to a X2?

[Wile E]

so no one knows how to bios volt bump with a p5k to a X2?

Can't be done. You have to mod the BIOS of the video card itself.

[Kirby123]

what program can i use?

[Spirou]

Can't be done. You have to mod the BIOS of the video card itself.

No. Not at all. You can modify a CCC-profile.

What can't be set by profile or ATT can't be set by BIOS. Voltages in profile are in overdrive5-section at the top for each powerstate. Profiles are stored in Userdir/Local Settings...bla...ATI/ACE.

Don't know if ATT voltage setting works with X2.

[Kirby123]

can someoen help with my hd 3870 X2??? the 2nd gpu is only using 10% usage of the 2nd gpu when ever i run 3d programs....... any help?

[dark2099]

Picked up a E7200 and swapped out the DDR 667 for 800, only 2GB though for now. WHEE!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/080529/Capture019688.jpg

[dark2099]

Broke 16K, wewt.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080530/Capture023617.jpg

[trt740]

here is mine Gpu clocks are 878 core/955 mem. The version of GPUz didn't read it right.

[dark2099]

Damn you.

[ThatGuy16]

dark, thats not bad for a board that runs x16/x4. Push your CPU to 4GHZ, you should get 17.5k at least

Since i posted my best score, 20008 (http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/20kyeah.jpg) marks. Heres what i get with my day to day clocks


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s145/Coreyhm1/3dmakr247.jpg

[dark2099]

I am working on getting it up to 4GHz, might be picking up a DFI X48 next week.

[imperialreign]

curious - anyone ever run into issues with the cards causing idle lock-ups?

since installing these two, on occasion, the OS will lock up while I'm browsing the inet, or doing idle tasks. On occasion, it'll BSoD with a reference of ati2dvag.sys, so I'm sure it's a graphics issue.

Also, every once in a while, it'll lock up, but then go back to normal, with CCC kicking in with a VPU Recover message.



the last driver re-install didn't seem to clear up the issue, perhaps I need to be a bit more thorough . . .

[trt740]

curious - anyone ever run into issues with the cards causing idle lock-ups?

since installing these two, on occasion, the OS will lock up while I'm browsing the inet, or doing idle tasks. On occasion, it'll BSoD with a reference of ati2dvag.sys, so I'm sure it's a graphics issue.

Also, every once in a while, it'll lock up, but then go back to normal, with CCC kicking in with a VPU Recover message.



the last driver re-install didn't seem to clear up the issue, perhaps I need to be a bit more thorough . . .

I have gotten that with 8.5 drivers

[dark2099]

Got the CPU to 4GHz stable enough to run 3dmark, have a set of Corsaid Dominator's 1066 in the PC, but they haven't helped getting it any higher, think its the board limiting me. Anyway here is my score.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080601/Capture035.jpg

[imperialreign]

I have gotten that with 8.5 drivers

hmmm . . . I might have to try Spankenstein's methods, then (which is a ton more thorough than mine :laugh:)

[DanishDevil]

Just got my 3870x2. Tossed it in and did a preliminary run.

Sapphire 3870x2 with EK Full Cover Block @ stock clocks. CPU under water @ 4.5GHz.

[Kirby123]

i am guessing that is your windows xp score? you should be able to get around 22k like mine on windows xp 32bit all you do is have to oc your video card just a bit, mines at 918/1053 stock cooling for each gpu

[Spirou]

A whip, i just need a whip to spank this !"§$%-P4 over 10K.

[removed for good reason]

9860... i'm gonna try again as soon as the fire brigade is leaving.

EDIT: Oh no, 9997 marks at 4555.5 MHz, 3870 @ 918/1323. I need an exorcism or something like that.

[removed for even better reason]

EDIT2: No whip, no exorcism, just brute force: 10.172

15133

P4D @ 4640 on air (1,6V), DDR2-667 @ 435 (4,5,5,15), 3870 @ 931.5/1350 without voltmod.

Still an Athlon in front of me... wait a minute... that's still bunches of em :-/

[dark2099]

Bored so fiddling with the CPU, hopefully will hit about 17.5k with the E7200 then I get to play with a E8500 and DFI LP DK X48 next week.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080607/Capture037.jpg

[imperialreign]

well - if my plans go well, I might be able to make some suicide runs next weekend if I can hit 4GHz with this CPU. Just got back earlier today from house-sitting for some friends, and they've got a killer AC system in the house . . . plus, the vents are in the floor which works out real nice when you can set the thermostat to 21C :rockout:

I had taken my rig over to their house so I could spend some needed gaming time, and thanks to my case design, I had place my Stacker directly over one of their air vents - so I had and was surprised to see that after playing Crysis for 4 hours, with no changes to my setup, max GPU temp had only reached 86C . . . just for comparison, with my rig here at home, 1 hour of Crysis is enough to reach a max of 98C.

My CPU at 3.6G never topped 45C under load, and was idling at about 30C.

They've asked me to keep an eye on the house and their pets again next weekend, and should that work out . . . MWA! HAA! HA! I'll prob set the thermostat at 18C and see what kind of clocks I can hit, and then time for some benchies!!

[BATOFF]

My system pushed further. All on air cooling. I wasnt concerned at all about pushing the voltages up as these were used only to bench and I really didnt spend any time finding where the sweet spot is.

[dark2099]

Did a quick little test with the new E8500 at stock, all I have to say is wow.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080609/Capture039.jpg

[ThatGuy16]

Is that a bad "wow"?

[dark2099]

More of a good wow considering when I did a test with the E7200 at stock on the same board, I got about 11k.

[ThatGuy16]

Oh i got ya. Did you get lucky, the E8500 a good clocker?


I forgot to mention, i sold one of my cards, i have a single one right now. I'll probably get one, or two 4870's when they come out.. :ohwell:

[dark2099]

Its got a Xigmatek HDT-S1283 w/ Scythe Ultra Kaze 3k RPM 133CFM fan instead Xigmatek fan. Might be changing out some parts soon.

[CH@NO]

My HD3850 arrived today (and my new system is finally completed :toast:), a nice upgrade to my old X1900GT, I've used ATi's overdrive to do a little OC.

Here's the pics, I take the screens sperately, hope it will be okay.

[Kirby123]

Can't be done. You have to mod the BIOS of the video card itself.

then what is with the pcie frequency shit? will that stablise my card if i bump that up? instead of auto?

[DanishDevil]

If you think it's limiting your VGA OC's, step it up to 115 or 125 and see if it helps. Some cards like it, some don't.

[mgc109]

FX-60 939 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6336863
2913ghz
mem=3-4-4-8@500mgz
2 8800gt
volts=cpu-1.35
mem2.65
ht-1.55

[lemnad]

Got it to break 20k with a little more tweaking but didn't get any screens:mad:

[lemnad]

Updated-thats about all I can squeeze. Got close but couldn't break 20k again

[Kirby123]

you should be able to easily break 20k with two hd 3870 crossfired
i broke 20 k with just one hd 3870 X2.

[asb2106]

Updated-thats about all I can squeeze. Got close but couldn't break 20k again

with a quad running 4 ghz you should be able to hit 20k, Try and push your cards memory a bit

[Azazel]

hey freak. will you be doing a thread similar to this for the 4k series?

[batmang]

you should be able to easily break 20k with two hd 3870 crossfired
i broke 20 k with just one hd 3870 X2.

I wish that was the case with my amd setup, haha.

[Kirby123]

i guess it could be cpu... and also do you over clock your cards? i recomend amd gpu clock tool

[batmang]

I wont overclocked them until I'm able to control both fan speeds on my 3870's under Vista64.

[Kirby123]

riva tuner should allow you to bump up the fan speed on both, since you are using crossfire the newest rivatuner has worked with my friends asus 3870's he uses vista, i know for sure it works with xp since i am a xp user. and i a sure it works with vista as well. just download the newest version and then put both around 55% fan speed. with the overclock it shouldnt get above 55

[trt740]

with my 3870x2

[Kirby123]

thats just one right?
cuz i get 22000 on 3d mark 06 with my HIS hd 3870 X2 overclocked.i havnt volt modded it yet cuz i am not going high enough to need to.

[Spliff]

HIS 3850 512M DDR3 @ 810/927
Cpu: E2180 @3.52Ghz (8x440)
Stock GPU cooling for now.. :toast:

[freaksavior]

yeah..... i need to update this.

[trt740]

thats just one right?
cuz i get 22000 on 3d mark 06 with my HIS hd 3870 X2 overclocked.i havnt volt modded it yet cuz i am not going high enough to need to.

yes

[Kirby123]

i have to say man nice cpu, i want the Q9770 and oc at 4.3ghz :D only a wish dont wanna spend $1500 on a cpu

[freaksavior]

hey freak. will you be doing a thread similar to this for the 4k series?

i can and i might, i want a 4xxx card first before i start it, i plan on buying a 4870 asap and then maybe a 4870 x2 or another 4870 down the road

[Kirby123]

ya i know im going to upgrade, my new job pays well so i prolly going to crossfire it i make minimum 1000 a week :D

[Darknova]

UPDATE:

Ok, here's my score with my new(ish) set up and new 3870 (I finally got around to overclocking it lol).

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w219/Cynicalnova/TPU/850-1301.jpg

E8400 @ 3.77Ghz
3870 @ 850/1301

12212 3DMarks :)

[batmang]

My latest score, and definitely NOT STABLE. It was stable enough for 3DMark06 and that was about it. Anyway, it finished so here is the result:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080622/Untitled3.jpg

[freaksavior]

UPDATED!!!!

this thread is going to be on the back burner, the book shelf wahtever ya wanna call it because of the 4k thread. if you have results, plz post them. i WILL keep updating this.

[candle_86]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7207943

8266

[skero666]

All of you have a really nice score at 3DMark 06, i only get 1547, and i have ADM dual core @ 1,900 MHz, 2 Gb DDR2 and a galaxy nVidia 7300GT @ 512 Mb DDR2, it,s not much but...i think the score is very low...can someone give me an opinion...please :(

[Darknova]

All of you have a really nice score at 3DMark 06, i only get 1547, and i have ADM dual core @ 1,900 MHz, 2 Gb DDR2 and a galaxy nVidia 7300GT @ 512 Mb DDR2, it,s not much but...i think the score is very low...can someone give me an opinion...please :(

Firstly, this thread is for ATi HD3xxx cards, you have an nvidia 7300GT.

And Second, that's about right, the 7300GT is an awful card.

[fullinfusion]

Updated As of 06/28/08 Thanks to freaksavior

Crossfire X

Quad Core


20292- BATOFF - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 776 Core 1125 Mem + 3870 X2 @ 823 Core 900 Mem - Vista

20701 - Megasty - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 776 Core 1125 Mem + 3870 X2 @ 822 Core 900 Mem - Vista

19033 - thequestor- Q6600 @ 3.5ghz 3870 @ 776 Core 1125 Mem + 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 900 Mem - Vista


3870 X2 Crossfire


26323 - Francis69007- Qx9650 @ 4.5ghz 3870X2's @ 850 Core 900 Mem - Vista

20523- raovac- Q6600 @ 3.6ghz 3870 X2 @ 823 Core 900 Mem - Vista


3870 X2

Quad Core


23955 - Nitro-Max - Q6600 4.3ghz 3870 X2 @ 900 Core 1000 Mem - XP
19703 - kylew - Q6600 @ 3.96ghz 3870 X2 @ 930 Core 940 Mem - Vista
19064 - fitseries3 - Q6600 @ 3.7ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 901 Mem - Vista
18570 - Blacklash - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 901 Mem - Vista
17697 - warup89- Q6700 @ 3.6ghz 3870 x2 @ 800 Core 900 Mem - Vista
17496 - thequestor - Q6600 3.5ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 900 Mem - XP
17471 - ace80 - Q6600 @ 3.6ghz 3870 X2 @ 822 Core 900 Mem - Vista
17471 - mep916 - Q6600 @ 3.6ghz 3870 x2 @ 822 Core 900 Mem - Vista
16371 - azazel - Q6600 @ 3.3ghz 3870 X2 @ 822 Core 900 Mem - XP
16153 - Whilhelm- Q6600 @ 3.0ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 900 Mem - XP
15404 - azazel - Q6600 @ 3.0ghz 3870 x2 @ 820 Core 900 Mem - Vista
11395 - BadEviL2K - phenom @ 2.6ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1044 Mem - Vista



Dual Core


20033 - fitseries3 - E8500 @ 4.8ghz 3870 X2 @ 850 Core 900 Mem
20032 - Kirby123 - E8400 @ 3.0ghz 3870 X2 @ 950 Core 954 Mem
20866- trt740 - Xeon E3110 @ 3.8ghz 3870 X2 @ 918 Core 1041 Mem
19444 - CY:G - E8400 @ 4.3ghz 3870 X2 @ 900 Core 1098 Mem
18772 - DanishDevil - E8500 @ 4.5ghz 3870 x2 @ 823 Core 900 Mem - Vista
116671 - hogans - E6850 @ 3.8Ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 900 Mem - XP
115817 - Ati Addictive - E6600 @ 3.6ghz 3870 X2 @ 825 Core 901 Mem - Vista


3870 Crossfire

Quad Core


22094 - Deagle- Q6600 @ 4.15ghz 3870 @ 1026 Core 1323 Mem - XP
21551 - asb2106 - Q6600 @ 4.05ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1296 Mem - XP
20742 - InPaniC - Q6600 @ 4.05ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1296 Mem - XP
20523 - ManoWaari - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1296 Mem - XP
20108 - Smallz750 - QX9650 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 845 Core 1201 Mem - Vista
19033 - freaksavior - Q6600 3.65ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1224 Mem - XP
18754- imperialreign - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1251 Mem - XP
18152 - lajchi - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 823 Core 990 Mem - XP
17313 - Woody112 - q6600 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 812 Core 1224 Mem - Vista
17050 - Blacklash - Q6600 @ 3.5ghz 3870 @ 760 Core 1029 Mem - Vista
16484- Bytor - Phenom 9850 @ 3.2ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1350 Mem - XP
13607 - batmang - Phenom 9850 @ 2.6ghz 3870 @ 823 Core 1233 Mem - Vista
13175 - xmarine0311 - Phenom 9850 @ 2.5ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1188 Mem - Vista



Dual Core


20243 - Dr. Spankenstein - E8500 @ 4.3ghz 3870 @ 958 Core 1242 Mem - XP
20008 - ThatGuy16 - E8400 @ 4.6Ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1197 Mem - Vista
19273 - Erocker - E8400 @ 4.36Ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1296 Mem - XP
19232 - WOutZoR - Xeon E3110 @ 4.25Ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1260 Mem - Vista
18175 - adigehalil - E8400 @ 4.0Ghz 3870 @ 823 Core 1206Mem - vista
17987 - Tzitzibp - E8400 @ 4.0Ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1350 Mem - XP
17641 - philbrown23 - E6850 @ 4.06Ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1197 Mem - XP
17024 - trog100 - E8400 @ 4.0ghz 3870(ddr4) @ 850 Core 1200 Mem - 3870(ddr3) @ 850 Core 950 Mem - XP
16896- dark2099 - E7200 @ 4.0Ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1305Mem- vista
14686 - Bytor - Athlon X2 @ 3.55ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1359 Mem - XP
14429- dark2099 - E8500 @ 3.1Ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1305Mem- vista
14297- dark2099 - E4600 @ 3.4Ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1305Mem- vista
12381 - dark2099 - Athlon X2 @ 3.2Ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1305Mem- vista


3870

Quad Core
lemnad

19891 - lemnad- Q6600 @ 3.9ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 999 Mem
16487 - asb2106 - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1147 Core 1278 Mem - XP
15314 - The Haunted - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1080 Core 1323 Mem
15137 - Kup - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 972 Core 1404 Mem
14080 - d0s - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 891 Core 1296 Mem - XP
13865 – xkm1948 -Q6600 3.6gh 3870 @ 857 Core 1386 Mem - XP
13781 - uber_cookie -Q6600 3.6gh 3870 @ 877 Core 1305 Mem
13720 - xkm1948 - Q6600 @ 3.6ghz3870 @ 857 Core 1350 Mem - XP
13397 - Random Murderer - Q6600 @ 3.2ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1242 Mem - XP
13325 - thequestor- Q6600 @ 3.5ghz3870 @ 776 Core 1125 Mem - XP
13282 - freaksavior - Q6600 @ 4.8ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1188 Mem - XP
13116 - lajchi - Q6600 @ 4.0ghz 3870 @ 823 Core 945 Mem - XP
13013 - Kei - AMD phenom @ 3.0ghz 3870 @ 931 Core 1350 Mem
12814 - ToeMoss - Q6600 @ 3.3ghz 3870 @ 823 Core 1197 Mem
12142 - borgfish - Q6600 @ 3.0ghz 3870 @ 796 Core 1170 Mem - XP
12334 - PashaM - Q6600 @ 2.4ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1125 Mem
12071 - zaqwsx- Phenom @ 2.8ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1247 Mem - XP Home
11850 - jbunch07- Phenom @ 2.7ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1215 Mem - Vista
11821 - wiak - phenom 2.7ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1278 Mem - XP
11533 - batmang - AMD Phenom @ 2.6ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1260 Mem - XP
11402 - BadEviL2K - AMD Phenom @ 2.4ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1044 Mem
11372 - jpierce55 - AMD Phenom @ 2.4ghz 3870 @ 843 Core 1242 Mem




Dual Core


[B]14319 - The Haunted - E3110 @ 4.3ghz 3870 @ 1080 Core 1323 Mem - XP
13873 - barr3l rid3r - E8400 @ 4.3ghz 3870 @ 1005 Core 1245 Mem - XP
13403 -erocker - E8400 @ 4.32ghz 3870 @ 918 Core 1296 Mem - XP
13378 - Trog100 - E8400 @ 4.4ghz 3870 @ 918 Core 1287 Mem 3dmark - XP
13138 - sneekypeet - E6400 @ 3.9ghz 3870 @ 918 Core 1386 Mem - Xp
12819 - Dr. Spankenstein - E6600 @ 3.7ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1287 Mem - XP
12639 - MagnusLL - E6750 3.6ghz 3870 @ 931 Core 1251 Mem - XP
12610 - DanishDevil - E8500 @ 4.2ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1314 Mem - Vista
12605 - Bytor - Athlon X2 @ 3.55ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1359 Mem - XP
12565 - gerrynicol - E8400 @ 3.8ghz3870 @ 865 Core 1387 Mem - Vista
12557 -oily 17 - E6850 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1314 Mem - Vista
12427 -htc - E6850 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 904 Core 1251 Mem - Vista
12306 - magibeg - Q6600 2.9ghz 3870 @ 855 Core 1271 Mem
12287 - fafa21 - E6750 @ 3.7ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1296 Mem
12212 - Darknova - E8400 @ 3.7ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1305 Mem - XP
12198 - entilza - E8400 @ 3.6ghz 3870 @ 843 Core 1251 Mem
12172 - casper250c - E4500 @ 3.3ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1386 Mem
11936 - mikek75 - E6750 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 843 Core 1251 Mem - XP
11758 - Stige - E6750 @ 3.6ghz 3870 @ 918 Core 1314 Mem - XP
11740 - gerrynicol - E6320 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1387 Mem - Vista
11615 - rzrbackpic - E6400 @ 3.3ghz3870 @ 864 Core 1242 Mem
11605 - freaksavior - E4300 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1377 Mem - Vista
11332 - Darknova - E2180 @ 3.7ghz 3870 @ 810 Core 927 Mem - XP
11321 - TRIPTEX_MTL - E4400 3.0ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1224 Mem - Vista
11303 - Dop3KinG - E6300 @ 3.2ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1296 Mem - Vista
11229 - warlock - E6420 2.8ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1179 Mem
11107 – Lillebror - e6400 @ 3.39ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1152 Mem – Vista Ultimate
11107 - alexp999 - e6600 @ 3.03ghz 3870 @ 850 Core 1296 Mem
11035 - Darknova - E4400 @ 3.1ghz 3870 @ 810 Core 1251 Mem - XP [/SIZ
[SIZE="1"]10952 - department76 - Athlon X2 @ 3.5ghz 3870 @ 862 Core 1200 Mem - Vista
10886 - Lillebror - E6400 @ 3.4ghz 3870 @ 789 Core 1152 Mem
10818 - kenkickr - Athlon X2 @ 3.3ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1287 Mem
10603 - ace80 - E6750 @ 2.66ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1188 Mem - XP
10337 - -iceblade^ - E2160 @ 3.0ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1179 Mem - Vista
10332 - reverze - Athlon X2 @ 3.0ghz 3870 @ 857 Core 1251 Mem - XP
10250 - laszlo - Athlon X2 @ 2.8Ghz 3870 @ 837 Core 1251Mem - XP
10452- dark2099 - Athlon X2 @ 3.2Ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 1296Mem- XP
10172- Spirou - P4D @ 4.6ghz 3870 @ 931 Core 1341Mem - XP
10059 - -=CrAnSwIcK=- - Athlon X2 @ 3.0Ghz 3870 @ 820 Core 1044 Mem - XP
10027 - blacktruckryder - Athlon X2 @ 2.8ghz 3870 @ 877 Core 1314 Mem - XP
9704 - Steevo - Athlon X2 @ 2.7ghz3870 @ 864 Core 1233 Mem - Xp
9567 - Makaveli - Opteron @ 2.8ghz 3870 @ 776 Core 1125 Mem - XP
9541 - Silverel - Athlon x2 @ 3.2ghz 3870 @ 715 Core 945 Mem - XP
9402 - Steevo - Athlon X2 @ 2.6ghz 3870 @ 816 Core 1224 Mem - XP
8541 - 0elemental0 - Athlon X2 2.4ghz 3870 @ 777 Core 1125 Mem - XP




3850

Quad Core



12867- nflesher87 - q6700 @ 3.8ghz 3850 @ 803 Core 1017 Mem - XP
12250- nflesher87 - q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3850 @ 769 Core 1017 Mem - XP
11114 - Warlock - q6600 @ 2.4ghz AGP 3850 @ 776 Core 999 Mem - Vista


Dual Core


12187 - ghost101 - E8400 @ 4.2ghz 3850 @ 864 Core 999 Mem - Vista
11891 - Erocker- E8400 @ 4.2ghz3850 @ 769 Core 1053 Mem - XP
1688 - fwhomeboy - E6750 @ 3.6ghz3850 @ 796 Core 999 Mem
11271 - repsol23 - E6700 @ 3.15ghz 3850 AGP @ 837 Core 1026 Mem - XP SP3
11511 - unsmart - E6300 @ 3.5ghz 3850 @ 837 Core 1044 Mem - XP
11417 - tigger69 - E6750 @ 3.6ghz 3850 @ 837 Core 999 Mem
10899 - Richard Shepherdson - E6400 @ 3.2ghz 3850 @ 783 Core 1062 Mem - Vista
10793 - CH@NO - E8200 @ 3.7Ghz 3850 @ 715 Core 999Mem - XP
10693 - NastyHabits - E6750 @ 3.2Ghz 3850 @ 762 Core 891Mem - XP
10606 - nflesher87 - E2200 @ 3.35 3850 @ 789 Core 1008 Mem - XP
10561 - King Wookie- E6550 @ 2.88ghz 3850 @ 769 Core 1062 Mem - XP
[10249 - mitchy24 - E6750 @ 3.6ghz3850 @ 715 Core 873 Mem
10022 - ArmoredCavalry - E6750 @ 3.2ghz 3850 @ 715 Core 891 Mem
9812 - Graogrim - E2200 @ 2.8ghz3850 @ 729 Core 936 Mem
9727 - erocker - Athlon X2 @ 3.2ghz3850 @ 715 Core 945 Mem - Vista
9530 - Joe23 - Athlon x2 @ 2.8ghz 3870 @ 810 Core 1225 Mem - XP
9125- InnocentCriminal - Athlon X2 @ 2.7ghz 3850 @ 715 Core 945 Mem
9012 - Devguy - Athlon X2 @ 3.0ghz 3850 @ 742 Core 999 Mem
8691 - Murasame - E6400 @ 2.13ghz3850 @ 668 Core 828 Mem - Vista
8226 - mnm222876 - Athlon X2 @ 2.4ghz3850 @ 668 Core 828 Mem - XP
8072 - thermopylae_480 - Pentium D 945 @ 3.75 3850 @ 715 Core 945 Mem - XP

Single Core


7134 - repsol23 - Pentium 4 @ 4.24 3850 (AGP) @ 810 Core 1026 Mem - XP

5062 - Morgoth - P4 @ 3.6ghz3850 (agp) @ 822 Core 900 Mem - xp

4869 - maerean_m - Athlong Xp @ 2.2ghz3850 (agp) @ 715 Core 909 Mem - xp


3650

Single Core

3450
1566 - unsmart - Sempron @ 1.98ghz 3450 @ 594 Core 495 Mem - XP


3977 - gamalrizaldi - Athlon 64 3000 @ 2.7Ghz 3650 @ 722 Core 792 Mem - Vista




Post your 3d mark 06 score of your 3000 series card!


Please be sure to include a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z!! Otherwise your score will NOT be valid

here is mine

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l294/freaksavior/3dmark06X1280.jpg

If you appreciate what i've done, hit the thanks button

i just want to clairfy something ( and i know we really are already doing this) but i just want people to know, if it has ANYTHING to do with the 3xxx series cards then please, please ask as that is one of the MANY reasons for this thread. Since the card is so cheap, yet so great performance then as erocker said, this thread has a lot of usefull info and the more info the better it becomes, so if you got a question related to 3xxx cards in anyway please post your question.




*2* 10926 - WarhammerTX - unkown - XP
*2* 18420 - REVHEAD - Q6600 @ 3.7ghzUnkown - Vista
hope i did this proper! thank you and hope this works
http://img.techpowerup.org/080626/test.jpg

[InnocentCriminal]

I'll upload my picture tonight. I managed to get 9597 with my HD3850... AGP. I've managed to source some better RAM and a Opteron 170 so I'll see if that'll allow me to hit the 10K mark.

\m/

[batmang]

hrmm, not sure why my picture isnt loading up?

[freaksavior]

hope i did this proper! thank you and hope this works
http://img.techpowerup.org/080626/test.jpg

yup, you did. i'll add it.

All of you have a really nice score at 3DMark 06, i only get 1547, and i have ADM dual core @ 1,900 MHz, 2 Gb DDR2 and a galaxy nVidia 7300GT @ 512 Mb DDR2, it,s not much but...i think the score is very low...can someone give me an opinion...please :(

Yes, this is for 3k series only, and that seems about right.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7207943

8266

i need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z and i dont like orb links. sorry

[fullinfusion]

Great and thank you Freaksavior

[candle_86]

yup, you did. i'll add it.



Yes, this is for 3k series only, and that seems about right.



i need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z and i dont like orb links. sorry

well i dont have a pro version of 06 but heres the stuff

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15799&d=1214511277

15799

excat same hardware. just that was on vista, i can't get 06 to work for some reason on my xp 64

[InnocentCriminal]

My new and improved score...

[total90]

Hello

here's my score


http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1741/12412bo4.th.png (http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12412bo4.png)


thanks:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Wile E]

well i dont have a pro version of 06 but heres the stuff

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15799&d=1214511277

15799

excat same hardware. just that was on vista, i can't get 06 to work for some reason on my xp 64

You probably need to install the October Hotfix for 3DMark. The problem is probably clock detection on your gpu. It hangs there.

[GrizzCUB]

Well...

After many arguments with myself about if I should do this...

I did it... :)

Stock standard drivers, no aftermarket software to adjust things, just pure bios and catalyst overdrive!

And what do I have to show for all this...

A nice sweet score in 3DMark'06 of 19465!!!:roll:

Did the test 3 times... I got one with a slightly higher score but there were artefacts in the water dragon test that were not good:mad: so I ditched that one and did it again! And again... and again!!!

Here ya go peoples...

http://www.users.on.net/~twocountrybears/3dmark06-20080627-004.jpg

[Jansku07]

Should I give it a go with the mighty HD3650. +2k points anyone? :roll:

[InnocentCriminal]

@ GrizzCUB - Awesome score, awesome dock!

\m/

Welcome to the forums dude!

[Dr. Spankenstein]

^^Agreed! Great score and "Welcome" to TPU!

Your score closely resembles mine (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6769701)! Looks like I'm going to have to do a run with the new 8.6 drivers...

[candle_86]

9152 XP x64 got the new board and x64 seems to work right now

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15848&d=1214607912
15848

[ace80]

I don't wanna hijack, if i need to start a new thread about this i will, just after a quick fix.
In vista everything is fine but in xp i can't select 1280x1024 res. Its the same in all 3dmarks.
Using a 26" HD telly native res of 1366x768. Even if i set screen to 1280x1024 its still the same:banghead:
This is what 3dmark defaults to
http://img.techpowerup.org/080627/sm060.jpg

[Wile E]

I don't wanna hijack, if i need to start a new thread about this i will, just after a quick fix.
In vista everything is fine but in xp i can't select 1280x1024 res. Its the same in all 3dmarks.
Using a 26" HD telly native res of 1366x768. Even if i set screen to 1280x1024 its still the same:banghead:
This is what 3dmark defaults to
http://img.techpowerup.org/080627/sm060.jpg

Make sure Windows is using the standard Microsoft Plug and Play Driver. Don't use a monitor specific driver.

[Spirou]

Thx for updating, but i clocked down a bit and scored: 9082

At 1920x1200 *g*

15920

Maybe we should bench at 2048x1536 now, shouldn't we?

EDIT: couldn't resist.

15921

2048x1536: 7972 curios wether world reference clocking committee will declare this valid :-/

Next one will take some time cause i don't remember how to trigger this exploit making catalyst accept 2560x2048 on my HD 3870.

[Viilutaja]

Here is mine : 14642 with Q6600 and HD 3850 512mb- vmoded. CPU and GPU aircooled.
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=707927

ORB compare link.
http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=5585564&compareResultType=14

if i get home, then i search for the screenshot,if its still needed.

[freaksavior]

i need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z and your bench in one picture.

[trt740]

yup, you did. i'll add it.



Yes, this is for 3k series only, and that seems about right.



i need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z and i dont like orb links. sorry

I think in the dual core score I should be first right? under 3870x2

[freaksavior]

fixed

[asb2106]

Wow, a single card scored this high? anyone know what post that is? I dont see how its possible with that clock speed - it seems right for dual cards.....

3870

Quad Core
lemnad

1. [b]19891 - lemnad- Q6600 @ 3.9ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 999 Mem
2. 16487 - asb2106 - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1147 Core 1278 Mem - XP
3. 15314 - The Haunted - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1080 Core 1323 Mem

[erocker]

It's two 3870's in crossfire.;)

[asb2106]

It's two 3870's in crossfire.;)

good to hear, I was wonderin how that worked out :)

Hey erocker, hows the 4800's working out for yah ???

Im thinking of grabbing one here real soon...

[erocker]

I love the 4800's, though I am experiencing one problem. Sometimes from a cold start, I get no display. I'm thinking it's my cursed monitor from hell, but I don't know for sure yet. Crysis with AA on looks beautiful! I can't wait to get my hands on some new games...

[freaksavior]

Wow, a single card scored this high? anyone know what post that is? I dont see how its possible with that clock speed - it seems right for dual cards.....

3870

Quad Core
lemnad

1. [b]19891 - lemnad- Q6600 @ 3.9ghz 3870 @ 864 Core 999 Mem
2. 16487 - asb2106 - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1147 Core 1278 Mem - XP
3. 15314 - The Haunted - Q6600 @ 3.8ghz 3870 @ 1080 Core 1323 Mem

did i mess up? do i need to fix something?

[Viilutaja]

i need a picture of cpu-z and gpu-z and your bench in one picture.

Sry, couldn't find any. At that moment i was benching and only updated the score to ORB. Found lesser score screenshot (13568 marks ),
http://slicer.planet.ee/13568%20mark06.JPG?2

You dont have to put my score to your official ranking, just wanted to show that old HD 3850 has some punch left in him, and even with aircooled. :D

PS. I have Thermalright HR-03 GT vga cooler on its way to my hand, for mounting it to upcoming HD4870. But i sure try to get back my 3'd place ranking in HWBOT for HD 3850 OC ladder, and with new cooler i just may do that. Then i will do some screens for ya all :)

[candle_86]

can't get crossfire running yet, PSU isnt strong enough, waiting on the new one, that im ordering next week, but the 3850 I ordered Like 2 weeks ago finally arrived lol, ordered it when i ordered the 3870 from xazaz on here to go crossfire.

So i think, maybe see my 3dmark scores with the 3850 and post them also?


Oh and when i get a better PSU how will it submit, under 3850 xfire or 3870 xfire? lol

[Wile E]

Do you have the HX620 now, or is that what you ordered? If you have it now, that psu is more than enough to handle 2 HD38xx cards in crossfire. Mine can handle 2 2900XT's in Crossfire. Make sure you plug the extra molex into the mobo to run Crossfire.

[candle_86]

ordered from my supplier but because its not a normal part he has to special order and because he is what he calls a teir3 supplier it takes him awhile but he is good to me so i use him. Its gonna take 2 weeks to arrive from him, and i pay him when it shows up lol. I expect it next week, right now its my allied 450 which im not even gonna try lol

gonna bench the 3850 brb

[Wile E]

ordered from my supplier but because its not a normal part he has to special order and because he is what he calls a teir3 supplier it takes him awhile but he is good to me so i use him. Its gonna take 2 weeks to arrive from him, and i pay him when it shows up lol. I expect it next week, right now its my allied 450 which im not even gonna try lol

gonna bench the 3850 brb

AHhh, ok. That makes much more sense then. lol.

[candle_86]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15974&d=1214901386
15974

3850 not sure why its not showing up right lol

[tamazoid]

Here's mine... I got 15112 on my 3870 Crossfire at stock frequencies. Only increase fan rate.
Using Q6600 CPU @ 3.0ghz at 1.3125v

I don't know why it says my Crossfire is Disabled though... Is that normal?

[Spirou]

My last dance with Pentium D: 10631

16051

My Quad should arrive tomorrow.

[candle_86]

nice score, you beat my X2 with that PD, though your well over 2000mhz faster lol

[Spirou]

Has been a long and demanding battle starting with 6733 at 3200 Mhz on my P4D.

Now to begin with my quad: 14150

16115

Looks like there's still some headroom left even without voltmodding.

[trt740]

My last dance with Pentium D: 10631

16051

My Quad should arrive tomorrow.

that really not bad

[tamazoid]

Posting my updated results... 16428

I'm surprised how much of a difference it made from just overclocking the CPU to another 400mhz more! Can probably go higher, but my Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro heatsink doesn't seem to be giving enough cooling...

[Spirou]

thx for updating, but have a look at the top scores in 3870 single gpu quad section pls. lemnad is 3850 crossfire and tamazoid 3870 crossfire, as you can see from their clocks, scores and screens.

GPU-Z doesn't read out properly sometimes.

ahm, and i'm Spirou, not Spiro :rolleyes:

[tamazoid]

thx for updating, but have a look at the top scores in 3870 single gpu quad section pls. lemnad is 3850 crossfire and tamazoid 3870 crossfire, as you can see from their clocks, scores and screens.

GPU-Z doesn't read out properly sometimes.

ahm, and i'm Spirou, not Spiro :rolleyes:

Good eye Spirou!

Sorry freaksavior, I should be in the 3870 Crossfire Quad Core section... 16428 would be too high of a score at my clock rate...

[tamazoid]

Alright, this is probably my last update. I don't think I can get any higher without raising the voltage.

3dMark06 score of 16881 with Q6600 at 3.4GHz @ 1.4V and Crossfire 3870 @ 837 Core 1143 Mem

[trt740]

here it is

http://img.techpowerup.org/080706/first run.jpg

[miloshs]

Heres mine...

i actually succeded in running 3DMark06 @ 877/1386 and got the 10783 score cuz my CPU score was low...
Altho' i have to admit that i think in the longer run 877/1386MHz would not last long...
(i think i can go steady @ 855/1350 with temps in around 55C)
Also my temps on the card were only around 56-58C, so i guess the voltage stops it from going higher...


heres my screnie:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/miloshs/3dmark06.jpg

Also one more thing, don't know why but wherever i see GPU-Z screenshot it says 3850 or 3870 Radeon, and mine consistently reports it as 3800 series (in 8.4 through 8.7 beta drivers)

[candle_86]

3850+3870 Crossfire
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16251&d=1215546293
16251

[lemnad]

Thanks for posting mine up but I'm in the wrong section. You put my score in the single card quad section. I wish one card would do that! I have 2 3870's in Crossfire and a Quad Core (Q6600). Thanks again!

[blTb]

16300 Marks!!!

HD3850 in CF. E8400, P5Q Pro.

One weird thing: CPU-z and everest says that I have 2x2GB DDR3 inst. of DDR2... :slap:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16302&stc=1&d=1215712152

[Mandown]

HD3850 HIS 3dmark score: 9822

[blTb]

17431 Marks!!!

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16310&stc=1&d=1215732668

[candle_86]

freak we need updates lol

[freaksavior]

updated

[cdawall]

going to post my onboard 3200 soon lol oc'd to 925mhz (from 500mhz stock)

[candle_86]

woot im top of dual core crossfireX woot

[freaksavior]

woot im top of dual core crossfireX woot

and the only one :P

[cdawall]

woot im top of dual core crossfireX woot

like hell you are

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=6687940&compareResultType=14

thats an AX2 5000BE @3.2ghz and xfired 3850 256mb @674/832

[monohouse]

I got some bad criticism about 3dmark, starting from bloatware and unnecessarilly huge in size (for the job), all the way to overused and well-optimized by all companies and their drivers.

I think the less-known is the software the more objective would be the results to represent the real speed and performance of the hardware and hardware combination, for me 3dmark is the worst for the job, every other driver version you can read on amd's changelog "improved performance in 3dmark 2006".

there is one other observation, 3dmark cpu tests are irrelevant to video card performance, so I don't think that the global score counts, the video tests are the only ones that matter, cause after all every program has it's own way to use the cpu, while the same will not be entirely correct for videocards.

maybe with your permission I could post some tests in several testing programs that are not well known as this one ?

[erocker]

Well, this thread is specifically for 3dMark 06 scores. You are more than welcome to post them in a different thread though.:toast:

[MadClown]

HD 3870, 3dmark06 default settings
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2931/3dmark06score1su4.png

[Zax85]

Hmmm..

Think I can break 11k on air?

I'm sure it will be possible once we get some even better drivers..

14207 easy!... :cool:

[monohouse]

· :(
why ?

[Wile E]

· :(
why ?

CPU speed.

[monohouse]

thx, 3360 mhz sucks ? my max is 3880 mhz but I prefer to set that speed only in winter, room temp at summer is 35 C, so even water sucks, maybe with phase on summer 5000 mhz, but in games there is no high cpu usage, quake 4 uses only 20-25% for example, so I don't think that it is necessary to clock it that high, after all this isn't for score, it's for practical, btw no artifacts in atitool for more than 10 hours at that gpu speed

btw I hoped that a single 4870 would smoke dual 3870, but it seem the 4870 isn't all that good after all

[HELLSPAWNPR]

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x183/froy76/Still_going.jpg

[monohouse]

can someone please show some in-game gpu usage in crossfire mode and performance of some games in crossfire mode ? or maybe gpu usage during the 3dmark run ?

[Dr. Spankenstein]

I could give some Riva screenshots later. What are you trying to determine?

[trt740]

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x183/froy76/Still_going.jpg

not too bad nice bench

[monohouse]

whether or not crossfire/SLI sucks compared to one-card of same type in real games instead of benchmarks

[Dr. Spankenstein]

whether or not crossfire/SLI sucks compared to one-card of same type in real games instead of benchmarks

CF/SLI sucking is totally subjective.

Either you WANT to pay for a second card or you DON'T.
I (personally) appreciate everything my CF setup has done for me. Sure it doesn't scale well in a FEW games and doesn't scale at all in fewer, but I'll take it when I can get it...:rockout:

[Dr. Spankenstein]

Screenies as promised:

I have provided the graph that is created by the secondary card. Nothig lower that 53% useage on 2nd card, the rest is pretty self-explanitory.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080801/CFGPUusage.jpg


Here is Call of Juarez @ 1920x1200, AF, all others "HIGH":

http://img.techpowerup.org/080801/CFCOJ.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080801/CFGPUCoJ.jpg


Sucks....?

Methinks not. Especially for DX10 games.

[sinister_steve]

Heres mine...I like the ofuture mark on the web site as you knoe no one can change settings and show fulse readings..Steve

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=184115&resultType=22

[monohouse]

thanks, btw a 3000 mhz phenom with a hd4850 15k is good ? I heard the phenom's suck at anything that isn't multithreaded is that true ?

[sinister_steve]

thanks, btw a 3000 mhz phenom with a hd4850 15k is good ? I heard the phenom's suck at anything that isn't multithreaded is that true ?

Hey man..No the phenoms are sweet as hell..they are fast for everything I can throw at it..and they OC damn goot to ..jUST TONIGHT i HAD IT AT 3.6GHZ AND STILL NEVER CRASHED..So just letting you know these 9850 black editions are very very fast...I read out there about them beeing slow a lot ,and I sortof thought so myself untill I oc a bit and then look at her rip it up now...Steve

[monohouse]

spank these cards, both watr cooling ? full cover block ?
and you still have room temp of 22 C ?
cause I seem to have a "problem" with the card, under constant 100% load after about 30 minutes, while I was monitoring the temperature with riva 2.09, during artifact scans and various other tests like furmark and 3dmark the temp never got any higher than 75, sometimes only 70, but while playing some games like GRID for continuously 30 minutes or bioshock I saw temperatures above 80, in GRID reached 87 C and in bioshock reached 82 C

so if you have room temp of 22 C and the card(s) get to 78 C, does that mean that if I have a room temp of 35 C nothing is wrong ?

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/rivalog.png
graph timer resolution is 10ms
btw why don't you do the 1.6V thing on both and fire them up with some heat (and mhz)? btw your temps look like stock cooling and stock voltage
how mutch do you think that it should be if it's wrong ?

[Dr. Spankenstein]

I'm still on stock coolers. During those tests I only had the fan set to 70%, always 1.6v and clocked @ 875 core for both. Ambient is more like 25C.

Do you have more than 1.6v going to your cards? I have a sneeking suspicion that your water cooling isn't up to the task. You've just got more heat going than can be transferred out of the loop.

The higher temps during games can be attributed to particular settings in BOTH CCC and in-game.

Try this as an example: Run a timedemo (or something that is repeatable) and record the results of temps while only changing MipMap detail and AF to MAX and MIN. The artifact scanner does not have any provision to change quality settings so if your settings in CCC are "Use game defaults" it will be on the lowest quality UNLESS you "force" these settings in CCC.

[monohouse]

do not have CCC, but I can modify the necessary settings in the registry, what are you sayin that the higher are the settings (AA/AF, mipmap) the higher is the temperature ? yes my registry parameters are at default

the voltage appears to be dropping over time, right now it has reached about 1.6 yhe, not much higher even if it would be any higher, do you think the temperature is something to be concerned about ?

what you meen transferred out of the loop ? as in radiators or as in vgablock ?
idle temp is around 50, I do think that there may be some other parameter that doesn't show up, which support the possibility of a radiator/fan problem, the heat took a long time to reach 87 C, about 30 minutes, in the past I saw water cooling systems from other people and they had "heat buildups", regardless of the quality of the radiators, they just didn't have enough of them, usually those were people with powerful pumps with too little amount of radiators like only 120mm (heat increases faster because water moving faster), there is some dirt in the radiators, maybe I should clean them, didn't clean them up for like 6 months, how does it look when it is a block problem ? faster increase ? because i had a pipe problem a long time ago which caused temporary increase in temperature and then it had to throttle and then the water kicked in and reduced to 60 C and then back to 110 C, but this is constant, im gonna check the entire system make sure all is ok, thanks

it appears to be some kind of bug in sensors, when started something the game first and then riva the temp was no higher than 65 C after I quit the game and started it again, it shows 80 C and starts to increase slowly, as if there is some kind of bug in the sensors

appears to be in rivatuner or it's statistics server: switch to game, switch to riva, switch some process, swtich back to game and temperature changes in the same place

it appears to be also in gpu-z sensors, seems like a hardware sensors problem in the card
still, it looks like there was a lote of dust in the radiators, I cleaned it all up, and it seems the cpu temps with two prime95's reduced from 58-59 to 51-52 @ 12V, and there seems to be less noise from the radiator fans, usually at that speed they were loud

[budbik]

I thought I was getting low scores but this thread was a great tool for comparison
My temps are extremely hot for stock cpu speeds I need to upgrade the stock cpu cooler for sure


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/budbik/11130-1.jpg

[Dr. Spankenstein]

do not have CCC, but I can modify the necessary settings in the registry, what are you sayin that the higher are the settings (AA/AF, mipmap) the higher is the temperature ? yes my registry parameters are at default

That is exactly what I'm saying. I'm guessing you are using "HIGH" settings in-game. That would account for the higher temps.

the voltage appears to be dropping over time, right now it has reached about 1.6 yhe, not much higher even if it would be any higher, do you think the temperature is something to be concerned about ?

I don't know where people have gotten the idea that these GPUs cam operate at 90C without issues. If anything (in my experience), the smaller fabrication seems to be less tolerant of temps. I'm not positive, but I think your leevated temps are what is keeping your card from reaching 1GHz stable @ 1.6v.

what you meen transferred out of the loop ? as in radiators or as in vgablock ?
idle temp is around 50, I do think that there may be some other parameter that doesn't show up, which support the possibility of a radiator/fan problem, the heat took a long time to reach 87 C, about 30 minutes, in the past I saw water cooling systems from other people and they had "heat buildups", regardless of the quality of the radiators, they just didn't have enough of them, usually those were people with powerful pumps with too little amount of radiators like only 120mm (heat increases faster because water moving faster), there is some dirt in the radiators, maybe I should clean them, didn't clean them up for like 6 months, how does it look when it is a block problem ? faster increase ? because i had a pipe problem a long time ago which caused temporary increase in temperature and then it had to throttle and then the water kicked in and reduced to 60 C and then back to 110 C, but this is constant, im gonna check the entire system make sure all is ok, thanks

it appears to be some kind of bug in sensors, when started something the game first and then riva the temp was no higher than 65 C after I quit the game and started it again, it shows 80 C and starts to increase slowly, as if there is some kind of bug in the sensors

appears to be in rivatuner or it's statistics server: switch to game, switch to riva, switch some process, swtich back to game and temperature changes in the same place

it appears to be also in gpu-z sensors, seems like a hardware sensors problem in the card
still, it looks like there was a lote of dust in the radiators, I cleaned it all up, and it seems the cpu temps with two prime95's reduced from 58-59 to 51-52 @ 12V, and there seems to be less noise from the radiator fans, usually at that speed they were loud

Kinda curious that both software would be having issues reporting temps, don't you think?;)
I was referring to your ENTIRE watercooling system. Each part is integral to the sytem's ability to effectively remove heat from the loop. The blocks must be of good design to transfer heat to the water, the pump has to move it through the tubing and radiator at a rate that works with the radiator's (and fan's) ability to remove the heat from the water. One weak link in that chain makes the whole setup poor. Your radiator that was clogged with dust was a big one. No need to "insulate" the fins!

With the kind of comp you are trying to run (and overclock), I still suggest you move to more "high end" watercooling components.

[monohouse]

yes, both software are reporting the same temperature indication problems, which means there is some kind of problem with the sensor itself or the data it sends, but there is no way to play a whole game for 30 minutes, switch to other process (2D clocks), switch back and see a temp that is 20-30 degrees higher than it was the entire game and then only to switch again and see the temps go back the way they were, did anyone experience any of these funny temperature behaviour ?

upgrading the watercooling system beyond what it currently is, is a waste of money, water has a limit and improving it is small difference at best, if im going to invest in cooling beyond what I already have, im gonna go xtreme, which I won't unless it was worth.

now that I have checked the entire system, it now operates at full performance, which leads me to believe that the temperature is 65 C maximum and no higher, because that is the first temperature that is reported before a process switch occurs, and it is also the only one that makes sense (at 85+ C there is gpu throttling, which does not occur, otherwise would be visible in-game) in whitch case you think the cooling is good ? I have tried to use the DMM thermometer on the waterblock but it wouldn't be accurate cause it's too far away from the actual chip.

I think that if I can't get reliable temperature information there is no way to know what the problem is, or whether or not there is a problem at all, except the gpu throttling, which so far I never seen. my only indication is your temp, if your temp is 78 C with stock cooling and no voltmod at 25 C room temp, and we know that water cooling limits the difference between highest and lowest temperature (water load-idle < air load-idle), assuming a 35 C room temp would put it about 88 C, using water cooling it reduces that max temp at load to about half of that (as far as I can remember since I had the stock cooling), assuming 44 C, add voltmod get +10 C which puts it about 54 C, but still if anyone could comment on temperatures of 3870 with waterblock and room temp could provide for a more accurate indication of the estimate.

about the 1000 mhz stable, it's possible that either room temp (although I do have 2x80 mm fans on the card at bottom) or I have the earlier design with the resistor problems they had at production (I bought it very early, the same day it was available actually) or like with CPU I just have a low overclockability problem as with any other chip (not all chips can clock the same) which so far leads me to believe that this is the case

[Wile E]

yes, both software are reporting the same temperature indication problems, which means there is some kind of problem with the sensor itself or the data it sends, but there is no way to play a whole game for 30 minutes, switch to other process (2D clocks), switch back and see a temp that is 20-30 degrees higher than it was the entire game and then only to switch again and see the temps go back the way they were, did anyone experience any of these funny temperature behaviour ?

upgrading the watercooling system beyond what it currently is, is a waste of money, water has a limit and improving it is small difference at best, if im going to invest in cooling beyond what I already have, im gonna go xtreme, which I won't unless it was worth.

now that I have checked the entire system, it now operates at full performance, which leads me to believe that the temperature is 65 C maximum and no higher, because that is the first temperature that is reported before a process switch occurs, and it is also the only one that makes sense (at 85+ C there is gpu throttling, which does not occur, otherwise would be visible in-game) in whitch case you think the cooling is good ? I have tried to use the DMM thermometer on the waterblock but it wouldn't be accurate cause it's too far away from the actual chip.

I think that if I can't get reliable temperature information there is no way to know what the problem is, or whether or not there is a problem at all, except the gpu throttling, which so far I never seen. my only indication is your temp, if your temp is 78 C with stock cooling and no voltmod at 25 C room temp, and we know that water cooling limits the difference between highest and lowest temperature (water load-idle < air load-idle), assuming a 35 C room temp would put it about 88 C, using water cooling it reduces that max temp at load to about half of that (as far as I can remember since I had the stock cooling), assuming 44 C, add voltmod get +10 C which puts it about 54 C, but still if anyone could comment on temperatures of 3870 with waterblock and room temp could provide for a more accurate indication of the estimate.

about the 1000 mhz stable, it's possible that either room temp (although I do have 2x80 mm fans on the card at bottom) or I have the earlier design with the resistor problems they had at production (I bought it very early, the same day it was available actually) or like with CPU I just have a low overclockability problem as with any other chip (not all chips can clock the same) which so far leads me to believe that this is the caseActually, the Bigwater 745 is not a very good water cooling system. Thermaltake makes poor water cooling systems. Sorry to put it so bluntly.

You would see a big difference by going with better water cooling parts. I bet just replacing your pump with a DDC-1 would make a noticeable difference.

[nINJAkECIL]

Crossfire HD3870, HIS HD3870 IceQ3 and Gecube HD3870 Xturbo III. all stock. using E4300@3,6ghz, and P965 chipset >.< Abit AB9-QuadGT:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8742/3dm06e43003600mhzaa1.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm06e43003600mhzaa1.jpg)

[boogah]

wait y didn't you crossfire them O_o

[nINJAkECIL]

wait y didn't you crossfire them O_o
yeah, I Crossfire them. I don't know about the 'disabled but available' on GPU-Z, but indeed I check at the Catalyst Control Center and Crossfire already active. but then again, using AB9 QuadGT, I only got x16 and x4 PCI-E bandwidht :p

[Evo85]

I got 9105 last night with 800/1000 Win XP SP3

[Dr. Spankenstein]

yes, both software are reporting the same temperature indication problems, which means there is some kind of problem with the sensor itself or the data it sends, but there is no way to play a whole game for 30 minutes, switch to other process (2D clocks), switch back and see a temp that is 20-30 degrees higher than it was the entire game and then only to switch again and see the temps go back the way they were, did anyone experience any of these funny temperature behaviour ?

You're right. That does appear odd. If NOTHING changes between the differing temp readings (you don't kick down the fans on the rad) then there does appear to be some issue (that I've never heard of). I don't know how you have your overclock on you CPU, but sometimes enabling a "Loadline calibration" function can deliver significantly MORE volts to the CPU at Idle that it does under load (this stating beyond vDroop).

I, like Wile E, believe that your watercooling is being overwhelmed.

upgrading the watercooling system beyond what it currently is, is a waste of money, water has a limit and improving it is small difference at best, if im going to invest in cooling beyond what I already have, im gonna go xtreme, which I won't unless it was worth.

This is a misconception you need to let go. You have not reached the limits of watercooling, you have reached the limits of YOUR watercooling system. There are reasons that radiators are rated by the amount of heat (usually listed as BTU-British Thermal Units) that it can dissapate per hour. The effectivness of the radiator, it's fans, the flow within the loop, the efficiency of the water block AND ambient temperatures are the cornerstones of how effective your watercooling will be.

now that I have checked the entire system, it now operates at full performance, which leads me to believe that the temperature is 65 C maximum and no higher, because that is the first temperature that is reported before a process switch occurs, and it is also the only one that makes sense (at 85+ C there is gpu throttling, which does not occur, otherwise would be visible in-game) in whitch case you think the cooling is good ? I have tried to use the DMM thermometer on the waterblock but it wouldn't be accurate cause it's too far away from the actual chip.

This is a lot of conjecture. Where have you EVER read that these 55nm cards throttle @ 85C? And to be safe, don't confuse a DMM (Digital Multimeter) with a infrared thermometer. Taking temps with a DMM wil surely lead to a fried card when you bridge something with you probe. (He, he...I said "probe"!:laugh:)

I think that if I can't get reliable temperature information there is no way to know what the problem is, or whether or not there is a problem at all, except the gpu throttling, which so far I never seen. my only indication is your temp, if your temp is 78 C with stock cooling and no voltmod at 25 C room temp, and we know that water cooling limits the difference between highest and lowest temperature (water load-idle < air load-idle), assuming a 35 C room temp would put it about 88 C, using water cooling it reduces that max temp at load to about half of that (as far as I can remember since I had the stock cooling), assuming 44 C, add voltmod get +10 C which puts it about 54 C, but still if anyone could comment on temperatures of 3870 with waterblock and room temp could provide for a more accurate indication of the estimate.

As I stated in my post previously, this was with the voltmod. Voltages were @ 1.6V.
You are pretty generous with your mathematical guestimations. Those MIGHT be valid IF you were on a primo watercooled rig. Search some posts from asb2106. He has an awesome setup much like what you are trying to achieve: CF 3870, voltmodded, watercooled with full coverage blocks. That would be a PERFECT resource.

about the 1000 mhz stable, it's possible that either room temp (although I do have 2x80 mm fans on the card at bottom) or I have the earlier design with the resistor problems they had at production (I bought it very early, the same day it was available actually) or like with CPU I just have a low overclockability problem as with any other chip (not all chips can clock the same) which so far leads me to believe that this is the case

I have the same type of cards. If you got them when they first came out, you have what are referred to as "reference" cards, since the design does not deviate from the original design in board layout or cooling.

I would really like to see some photos of your voltage readings and these screwy temp readings (if you would, include CPU-z, GPU-z and whatever probram you are using to overclock the cards.) From there we might be able to determine what exactly is happening with your system.:toast:

[Clutch442]

Well I'm new around here, Is this where you post your scores?
Also I hope you can read it, I don't know how to do that resize thing.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/clutch442/Copyof3DMark8-8-20082.jpg

I see my System Specs didn't show up???

Well I changed that (obvious noobe)

[monohouse]

thanks Dr., im gonna get to it, so my water system sucks, I saw someone with a room temp of 28 C has a watercooling and a voltmod at 1.6 has a max temp of 33 C on the card at full load.

can "reference" be also applied to fully branded cards ? like sapphire ? with an official sapphire card ID ? if you got the same type then that is not the problem

btw about those guestimations, back in the day I had the Athlon XP-M 2500+ (which was OC to 2600 mhz) the watercooling along with a R350 in the loop, has reduced exactly by half the maximum cpu temp at load, that's why I think you are right, R350 and HD3870 are a long way to go, not to mention Core 2 Duo (even at stock voltage) which is for all purposes 2 physical processors, no matter how "elegantly" they are arranged, still generate an equivalent of 2x the heat, and with all the respect to the 130nm vs 65nm, it's still not linear, as they obviously pushed that advantage to the fullest

so what are we looking at here ? a full-coverage hd3870 bloock alone or also a new pump ? or also rad(s) ? or maybe I should start with the block and see if it makes a difference, and then see what's next ? do you think that maybe the cpu block could be sucks as well ?, btw if I check the heat on the later part of the radiator and if it is colder than the ones at start does that mean the rad and the fans are good enough ? or it isn't a legitimate radiator efficiency check ? there is one thing - between the fan voltage of 7V and 12V there isn't much of a difference in the cpu temp, maybe 2 C at best, and at room temp of 35 C, back in the winter there was even less a difference I could turn off the fans and only after a long time the temperatures would start to increase (maybe 10 minutes)

and if we succeed turning my system into a primo, how much better could it become ? 1100 mhz?

I heard some physics stuff about the electronic process taking place in the cpu, it states that temperature does not have the major impact on overclockability, it's the voltage, sometimes even at no temperature there is no room for overclockability, that's because from what I read, that gates between the N and P are beginning to be less attractive for the electrons, as they choose a different path to an adjacent transistor instead, causing damage to the isolation between the transistors and eventually the isolation wears off and then the chip is no longer functional at any voltage, while I am certain that this is not the point at which such damage occurs, I do question whether the maximum potential beyond this point is worth the potential expense on the new watercooling system, sure I don't mind the 35$ on a gpublock, but I would mind the 300$ if it means to replace the whole system...while a new card could be lower in price by comparison and may be further overclocked by my cheep watercooling system and even voltmod a little, it's just such a shame that I didn't buy a proper system at the time, though a good block such as the 60 model from swifty might do some good, maybe I need 2 separate watercoolings, which I might eventually do if you would recommend it that highly

sorry that I don't have a cam, you will have to trust me on the voltage readings, as for the overclock, it is strictly bios-flash with RBE+winflash only, I do not like software overclocking at all, this is not the maximum overclock for core or for ram, it is the maximum stable+10hours-artifact-free overclock for core and for ram, I will get the temperature readings with a screenshot(s)

This is a lot of conjecture. Where have you EVER read that these 55nm cards throttle @ 85C? And to be safe, don't confuse a DMM (Digital Multimeter) with a infrared thermometer. Taking temps with a DMM wil surely lead to a fried card when you bridge something with you probe. (He, he...I said "probe"!)

I haven't read, but I remember what actually happened when I was having the pipe problems, for a sec it was reaching about 100+ C and then throttling, so I do not know for sure at which temp, it has to be somewhere in the 100s but it may also be lower, my guess is that regardless - it cannot be because of a process switch, not to mention returning back to normal after a second process switch

that's why I didn't do it, it's too risky, besides there are 2x80mm fans on bottom making it difficult to reach it anyway, not to mention the reading would not be valid

yhea, Wile E was very short and to the point, unfortunately at this point I do not know for certain which watercooling part is the one that sucks the most, and replacing the entire system at this point is not an option, but over time starting from the worst to the "best" of parts I will replace it if you say that it sucks that mutch

I did not find a "Loadline calibration" function in the BIOS, the cpu voltage is stock, and measures at 1.3 V at idle, the overclock on it is 3360 mhz, that's the setting I use for summer when room temps are 25 or higher (as long as cpu temp isn't higher than 60 C at full load)

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/cputemp.png

sensors log: (resolution is 100 ms)

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/sensors.png

as you can see the time of the occurences is identical yet after the switch between processes the temperature changes for no reason, and there is nothing going on, it just the main menu

this is with a resolution of 1000 ms:

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/sensors2.png

as you can see after the second switch the max temp was lower while the time in 3D mode was longer

and a while later with some continuous testing from in-game:

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/sensors3.png

at first it reached 83 C and then after switching it reaches a max of 71/68 C, under same load, here is another one after some rest, this shows the problem at better contrast:

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/sensors4.png

[Wile E]

Personally, I would start with the pump. It's a known weak point of the Thermaltake systems. Low flow, and high failure rates. I would get a Laing DDC3.2 (Swiftech MCP-355).

Next I would change the blocks. I would go for a D-Tek Fuzion V2 for the cpu, and probably Dangerden Maze5 block for the gpu(s). I stick to universal gpu waterblocks because you can continue to use them if you upgrade your card. Just make sure you keep the vregs and mem of the card cool. The stock heatspreaders in combination with a couple well placed fans is usually enough to get the job done. Better would be to replace the factory heatspreader with some high quality ramsinks. If you get a full coverage block, not only does it add the heat of the vmem and vregs to the loop, potentially lowering your gpu overclock, you also have to buy a new block if you buy a new card and want to watercool it.

When that was done, I would move on to the rads. Rad choice would depend strictly on my budget. If I had $130 to spend, I would get a Thermochill 120.3 or a Dangerden 480. If I had a $50 or lower budget, I'd look at the Swiftech MCR offerings. Great bang for the buck.

The great thing about water cooling systems is their modularity. You can upgrade them piece by piece as money allows.

[monohouse]

ok, now I know for sure that something is wrong, I have just disassembled the entire system, and re-wired it so that cpu goes to NB, and the GPU is completely alone, have re-attached the block and tightened all it's plugs, it seems there were freezes before so I had to try to fix it, it seems that the block gets hot during card's operation, so that it starts to hurt the fingers, around 42 C (DMM probe), and here is a monitor output:

http://manoa.flnet.org/Pics/sensors5.png

im going to re-attach the gpu block again with more grease, no change, still the same, causes system freezes, I don't get it, earlier it was fine, just now when I