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tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 06:57 AM

Geforce 8 Series Clubhouse

A support group for all Nvidia Geforce 8 and 9 Series Owners.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/4520-GeForce8800Ultra3qtrlo.jpg

This thread is a chat as well as an unofficial support thread.

Note: Zero spam tolerance
Note: To access articles in the table of contents please use CTRL+F L1 to instantly gain access to what you want, example N1; rules. Ctrl + F F1 and you will be able to read the article instantly.

G8x/G9x GPUs supported here

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CONTENTS
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GS1. Posting Guidelines
N0. Updates
N1. Rules, and Joining conditions
N2. Personal Comments
NV1. Recommended Purchases from G8x/G9x Family
NV2. Rumour box/Judgement by Tkpenalty
G1. Member List

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GS1. Posting Guidelines
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-With images, please use www.techpowerup.org, and downsize images to 1024x786, OR if higher resolutions are absolutely necessary, post a link instead.

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N0. UPDATES:
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27/01/08: Rules of the clubhouse section N1
27/01/08: Clubhouse open, it seems like every January I open a new clubhouse :laugh:

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N1. Rules, Joining Conditions
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If you are transferring over from my older and rather successful HD2k/HD3k Clubhouse, you very well know the basic rules.

-Forum rules are applied here as well. Please have a good read of them if you aren't sure of what they are.
-No spamming. I didn't like it in my older clubhouse, so I won't like that here
-Fanboy wars, Same story for BOTH clubs. I will not tolerate any fanboy wars, we only need the truth here.
- Stay on topic with disscussion of G8x or 9x products, comparisons, etcetra are welcome.

Conditions of Joining
You may be in this thread without joining, however membership, means that you basically are entitled to a faster response to any help thats needed from me

-Must own G8x or G9x Series GPU in order to be applicable.
-Must have 50 posts or more, however exceptions ARE allowed in certain circumstances. If member has been on this forum for more than one month, the 50 post requirement is irrelevant.
-To join, the member MUST PM me, and also state their current setup. Images are welcome.
-Please post GPUZ verification in inclusion
-3D Mark scores are welcome

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N2. Personal Comments
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27.01.08

Sorry for the lack of articles, but the clubhouse WAS formed today. Being more relevant, members of the HD3k clubhouse and the G80; you are in one community and remember that. All because I have made another clubhouse (and went to the darkside) does not mean I'm abandoning anything. Basically, the point of both clubhouses is to provide TECH SUPPORT. Not a fanclub, even if they both do and will do that.

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NV1. Recommended Purchases from G8x/G9x Family
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These are GPUs that are recommended for purchase for each price range. Please note that some are manufacturer, and model specific. Reasons will be explained. Basically the reasoning behind these choices is simple, practicality, durability and the value of the GPU itself.

Out of the 8800GT family

The 8800 family is filled with variations with many Manufacturers making customized designs of the 8800GT, first off we have the 8800GT 512MB. This is the IDEAL 8800GT, if you are counting value, and performance altogether.

The 8800GT 256MB suffers from inferior performance (approx +20%~ less compared to the 8800GT 512MB) due to the lack of framebuffer, which is a major issue with it. There is one advantage, which is price. However as performance suffers heavily with the reduced framebuffer on newer games it isn't a good choice.

The 8800GT 1GB, from PALIT and ASUS, while 1GB sounds like a nice number, it isn't necessarily useful. Practically, the 8800GT 1GB's extra load of framebuffer is extremely redundant. With less than half of the framebuffer utilised for all the games. Benchmarks also show that the performance does NOT increase at all with the redundant framebuffer-even in Crysis.

The 8800GT 512MB is the best option. Why? Price, performance value.

One problem. The reference 8800GT's phase design is very poorly designed. With only 1 Phase for the memory, and two phases for the Vcore. The main problem is that the Vcore phase's capacitors , chokes, MOSFETs, generally have a lot to handle. If we remove all the reference designs, we are left with two options.

The Palit 8800GT 512MB Sonic, or the Gigabyte 8800GT 512MB Ultra Durable 2 (GV-NX88T512HP)

The Palit 8800GT 512MB Sonic
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-10-30/Palit_8800GT.jpg
Gigabyte GV-NX88T512HP
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-125-087-03.jpg

Lets elaborate on the features of both cards shall we? Both cards sport a 3 Phase power design for the Vcore, as opposed to two. This does mean indeed that the phases will run cooler. However the Gigabyte edges out a tiny bit in this aspect with the components used in comparison. Both GPUs use non-reference cooling, which are of the same calibre (expect load temps of around 70*C~60*C), which is far superior than the stock reference (80*C + normally). Both cards furthermore, come pre-overclocked, which is a nice addition to their value.

Now to the differences, the Gigabyte 8800GT has one major advantage, as seen in the image, the 8800GT has a shorter PCB, around 1.5 Inches shorter. This means it is far more HTPC friendly compared to the Palit and other 8800GTs. The Gigabyte has one rather unique feature, which is a power saving feature that is offered on their newer E series motherboards. Basically operating on the same principle, it cuts down power usage and temperatures by a small amount during Idle. Note that software is required for this feature to work however, which is the GAMER H.U.D. The gamer H.U.D allows for software voltage control, BIOS modding not needed which is convenient. However the max voltage that the card can do with this tool is 1.2v-and at that point you would consider cooling the Vcore phases. One major letdown is the omission of memory cooling, thus the card is limited at 1840 MHz, however by adding small heatsinks, such as the Zalman BGA heatsinks, the card will easily do 2.0GHz.

UPDATE: Later models come with Samsung memory, which is rated at 2.0Ghz, moreover compared to the Quimonda, Samsung’s memory is known to run cooler, however not necessarily clock better.

However on the other hand, the Palit has HDMI, which is slowly becoming needed for high end Flat screen TVs. The Palit DOESN’T have exposed memory; its cooled, so that’s one investment that doesn’t need to be made, like the gigabyte. There is a large set of MOSFETs, and those are cooled with a large heatsink. (However please note, regardless of that at 1.2v+ the phases will require active cooling to remain stable). Unlike the Gigabyte, it will still require flashing to have any form of voltage control, which is a minor problem. The large proprietary heatsink, is somewhat edged out by the VF830Alcu, but nonetheless still superior to the reference design. In this case memory clocks do not suffer thanks to the memory cooling. Overall, this card is warmer.

Out of the both of these GPUs, it comes down to your needs. The Gigabyte would be better if you worry about the durability and the size of the card, as well as the power saving, while the Palit would be better suited for when HDMI is needed in a high performance PC. It also boils down to the price, but take note of the advantages of each GPU, note that performance is almost the same with both. Heres a summary:

Gigabyte 8800GT
++Ultra Durable 2 3 Phase
+Pre OC’ed
+Smaller PCB
+Aftermarket Zalman VF830
+GAMER HUD
-1.2v max in gamer HUD
-A bit more expensive than ref
-No memory cooling.

PALIT 8800GT
++HDMI
+Three phase
+Pre OC’ed
+Proprietary Aluminium flower fansink
+Memory cooling
+Similarly priced as reference design.
-MOSFET cooling inadequate; MOSFETs run too hot
-Longer than Gigabyte 8800GT (not really a con)

9800GTX/8800GTS 512MB
When the 9800GTX was released, it was basically an overpriced 8800GTS 512MB with more power phases. However now with the considerable price drops that have evened the prices of both GPUs, it will be up to the end user to buy whichever he/her prefers.

The 9800GTX has the advantage of having more power phases, but please note performance wise its identical to the 8800GTS 512MB. The more power phases will in turn make the card run cooler overall, however draw slightly more power. The PCB is also longer; this may be a problem to some who have a small chassis. With the extra power phases Nvidia decided to chuck in another 6 pin header; probably to give the product an impression it is a high end product.

The 8800GTS 512MB isn't that long but sports two times less power phases, it costs moreover around $10~$20 USD less, or in some cases the same price as the 9800GTX. It doesn't have the extra power connector moreover (which isn't needed). Finally one of the major advantages is the smaller, but superior cooler. You may ask why? Because the 8800GTS 512MB's cooler is silent, in contrast to the 9800GTX's. The 9800GTX's is just a large fin array, with a copper base, with a fast and moderately audible fan, while the 8800GTS 512MB sports a triple heatpipe cooler with a fan that remains quiet; the results say that the 8800GTS 512MB runs cooler.

In my opinion, go for whichever is cheaper at your retailer.

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NV2. Rumour box/Judgement by Tkpenalty
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Latest GT200 rumours
As of late, none of the rumours from various sources seem to be remotely reliable to base a judgement on the GT200's performance. VR Zone, has posted news but it is rather questionable as to how they are getting their information. So far the site that usually pumps out pre-release info, Fudzilla has only have info about the competitor; the RV770, this does suggest that the rumours are to be taken with a grain of salt as even Fudzilla aren't talking about it yet.

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G1. Member List
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A member list, of current members of this clubhouse.

Executive
Leader: Tkpenalty – 8 Series

Setup: Gigabyte 8800GT 512MB Ultra Durable 2 (GV-NX88T512HP)
OC: 780mhz/2000mhz
Mods: Removed VF700ALCU, Installed AcceleroS1
GPU-Z: Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/73vrm/)
3D Marks:
3D Mark 05 = 16782 (http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=12&XLID=0&UID=13731983)
3D Mark 06 = 11418 (http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13733846)
Pic: Here (http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/Image048.jpg)

Personal comment: I have the older 8800GT with the VF700ALCU installed by the way. Going to rip it off to install an AcceleroS1. The 8800GT Diagnosed one of my PCI-E 6 Pin connectors were faulty... used my remaining PCI-E 6 pin connector. At first I thought the 8800GT was dead, but then I tested it on my "old" PC. Oh well lol, one dead PCI-E connector. VF700ALCU was barely satisfactory, 72*C Load and 50*C Idle, the AcceleroS1 does way better, passively without any noise. Same thing happened on my X1950PRO... two AcceleroS1s :laugh

Leader: Solaris 17 – 9 Series

First non-8800 member – First 8600GT and 9600GT owner
Nvidia G8x/G9x Series Mod Guru
Nvidia Geforce Guru
God of 8600GT/9600GT
Too-many-titles man

Model: EVGA 8600GT 256MB
Mods: Voltmods, Vcore 1.5v, Vmem 2.2v. Bios flashed to speeds.
OC: 750/1850/950
GPUZ: Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/cb84p/)
Image - warning extremely modded: Here (http://img.techpowerup.org/071111/6pin%20mod.jpg)

Palit_Guy
Palit Representative
Model: All Palit 8800GT Models
Palit Representative.

Wile E
First member, first to DX10, Also HD3k Clubhouse member

Setup: Palit GeForce 8800GT 1GB SONIC.
OC: 790/1902/1050 GPU/Shader/mem

Personal Comment: I have the 1GB Palit Sonic. It loads to 59C with my OC (760/1902/1050 gpu/shader/mem), logged by Rivatuner. The cooler really is pretty good. Certainly better than the reference cooler. It's no S1 or vf1000, but it gets the job done.

Tkpenalty's Comment: 59*C is a very good temperature, good 8800 Imho.

Join Date: 28/01/08

Join Date: 30/01/08
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craigwhiteside
moderator™

Setup: ECS 8800GT 512MB
OC: 720/1730/2080
Random Image: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12247&d=1203209215
Joined Date: 23/2/08

Standard Members

PuMA

Setup: Inno3D GeForce 8800GTS 320MB OC edition
OC: 650/2000 mhz
3D Marks: 11,023
Joined Date: 28/01/08

Co_op

Setup: Gigabyte 8800GTS 320MB (GV-NX88S320H-B-RH)
GPUZ: Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/3pwz8/)
3D Marks: 11091 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4478299)
Joined Date: 28/01/08

Tatty_One

A Grandpa

Models (in one system?):
-MSI Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS 512MB OC G92 @
-2x Palit Nvidia Geforce 8800GT 512MB Super+ G92 @ 770/1925/1080
OC:
-MSI@ 835/2100/2150
-2x Palit@770/1925/1080, one voltmodded due to instability issues.

Tkpenalty's Comment: O_o Three G92s?

Gallatin

Setup: Gainward Geforce 8800GT 512MB (reference design)
3D Marks: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4864/39210318ha0.jpg
Joined Date: 28/01/08

Watts289

Setup: BFG Geforce 8800GT 512MB OC
GPU-Z: Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/37gce/)
Join Date: 28/01/08
3D Mark: 10,075 (2006)

Corrosion

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9739/image016fd1.jpg
Setup: BFG 8800GTS 512MB(G92) OC Edition
CPUZ & GPUZ:Here (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/588/cpugpulf2.jpg)
3dmark 05: 14102

Tkpenalty's Comment: Please note that your CPU is holding your GPU back by a fair bit. You may want to upgrade to a 6000+, etcetera in this case.

wolf
ATi X1950~HD3k Member

GPUs in Possession:
-XFX 8800GT 512MB (Standard)
-2x XFX 8600GT XXX Edition
Mods: GPUs use a custom bios
OC:
-XFX 8800GT 720/1782/1944
-2x XFX8600GT XXX 742/1836/1700

Join Date: 23/02/08

zschc
First second Generation G92 user

Setup: XFX Geforce 8800GS 580MB (192bit memory bus)
GPUZ: :Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/zschc/)
OC: 720/1800/1900
Join Date: 23/02/08

Comment: Those are the same clocks as the normal 8800GTs are possible of :eek:

Members that need more info from

theoldboy

Setup: Palit Geforce 8800GT 512MB Sonic
OC: N/A
Join Date: 28/01/08

kieran_fletch

Setup: Xpertvision 8800GT 512MB (Palit 8800GT 512MB Sonic Edition).
OC: GPU 771mhz, memory 932mhz,shader 1750mhz

Join Date: 23/2/08

Candle_86
[quote]
Setup: XFX 8800GS 580M
OC: 720/1800/1900
Join Date: 5/3/08
Racist remarks wont get you anywhere :)

FreedomEclipse

Setup: XFX Geforce 8800GTS 512MB Alpha Dog Edition (preOC)
Join Date: 29/01/08

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Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything that goes wrong when you buy your GPU, all this information is based off hypothesized analysis if there is anything incorrect, add my MSN: azn_luster_X@hotmail.com and then talk to me about it

Thanks.

Martin Gelb

theoldboy

01-28-2008, 08:06 AM

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 08:10 AM

the palit sonic version in Australia is only 512mb not 1gb is also overclocked ,
and having just bought one for aus$329 is cheaper than the 3870 ,card is sweet and that heatsick works well only got to 51 degres running Helgate (its summer here)

Sonic right? Very nice then, 51*C :S... 51*C Sounds more like a temperature after you ctrl + tab. I'd use something such as ATi Tool to get the temps, run "scan for artifacts" and leave it for 5 minutes. Then you'll get the load temps.

$329? Where did you get that? :twitch:. HD3870 is supposed to be cheaper, but nice find nonetheless! (I live in Australia too). Do you live in brisbane or something? Because in sydney, only "Generic (i.e. bad warranty)", 8800GTs have that kind of pricing.

EDIT: Sunshine Coast... damn you guys are lucky up there. Get everything for almost as cheap as in the US :twitch:

Wile E

01-28-2008, 08:15 AM

I have the 1GB Palit Sonic. It loads to 59C with my OC (760/1902/1050 gpu/shader/mem), logged by Rivatuner. The cooler really is pretty good. Certainly better than the reference cooler. It's no S1 or vf1000, but it gets the job done.

My Palit also looks quite a bit different than the pic you have up of it.

The Gigabyte is not a 4 phase design. Number of chokes does not equal number of phases. It's still a 3 phase design, as listed on their website.

With that said, can I join? :D

EDIT: Closeups of my card. With and without heatsinks. (But left the ram heatspreaders on.)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/PICT0003.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/PICT0002.jpg

Co_Op

01-28-2008, 08:22 AM

Gigabyte 8800GTS 320Mb

Official page
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2463

GPU-Z Validation Link
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/3pwz8/

3DMark06 11091
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4478299

theoldboy

01-28-2008, 08:26 AM

Sonic right? Very nice then, 51*C :S... 51*C Sounds more like a temperature after you ctrl + tab. I'd use something such as ATi Tool to get the temps, run "scan for artifacts" and leave it for 5 minutes. Then you'll get the load temps.

$329? Where did you get that? :twitch:. HD3870 is supposed to be cheaper, but nice find nonetheless! (I live in Australia too). Do you live in brisbane or something? Because in sydney, only "Generic (i.e. bad warranty)", 8800GTs have that kind of pricing.

Hi I got it from PCmeal they have them on ebay ,,though they have them at$349 now the card comes with a program called vdo tool you can you can monitor fan speed temp etc ,you can manually set the fan speed if you want
i will have a look on ebay and post the link think they still have a few more ,it was a coin toss up as to wether to get the 8800 or the 3870
heres the link to ebay they are a great to deal with
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/nVidia-Geforce-8800-GT-8800GT-SONIC-512MB-DDR3-PCI-E-NE_W0QQitemZ300192603705QQihZ020QQcategoryZ40156QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Wile E

01-28-2008, 08:35 AM

PuMA

01-28-2008, 08:46 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/ino.jpg

heres mine. will do 650/2000 mhz and 3dmark06 gives me 11,023

oh and wanna join:):)

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 08:47 AM

Hmmm, GB doesn't list the number of phases on their site anymore. Maybe I was thinking of a press release? Either way tk, I did find out that your card isn't just the GV-NX88T512HP, it's the GV-NX88T512HP Rev. 1.0, thus explaining the different cooling on yours.

Here's the link to the picture on GB's site: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/Image/vga_productimage_gv-nx88t512hp_rev.1.0_big.jpg

Yeah that was the older revision which was in the pic in that comparison thread. I got the 1.0 Revision at the moment. Not the older revision. Its also got the extra voltage control chip installed which means its pretty handy. Yes that Palit 8800GT looks different compared to the one (thanks for the pics lol).

Well, I'm somewhat confused at the moment. Some places say four phase while others say three. With six chokes in a line, it can be logical to say, two for memory four for vcore... OR, you could assume in your case, one choke for Memory and three chokes for vcore, with the rest for some other thing.

Hmmm, GB doesn't list the number of phases on their site anymore. Maybe I was thinking of a press release? Either way tk, I did find out that your card isn't just the GV-NX88T512HP, it's the GV-NX88T512HP Rev. 1.0, thus explaining the different cooling on yours.

Here's the link to the picture on GB's site: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/Image/vga_productimage_gv-nx88t512hp_rev.1.0_big.jpg

Yeah... On the older revision there was one less choke (at top) and the PCB was laid out somewhat differently.

Looks Like i'll need to re-judge the choice between each card. On a sidenote though, that memory heatplate looks pretty cool though. Your revision of the palit is designed somewhat better than the one in the pic.

Duxx

01-28-2008, 08:53 AM

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 09:04 AM

Oh boy, cant wait to join :). Waiting on my EVGA as we speak, had to RMA due to it artifacting all over the place. Crossing my fingers that this one doesn't suck the uberness.
:banghead::respect::respect::banghead:

You're lucky you are getting it from EVGA, when that 9800 series comes out, (9800GT?) you might be able to participate in the upgrade program...and their warranty is just awesome.

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 09:57 AM

Okay new members added :)

Gallatin

01-28-2008, 10:32 AM

Gainward 8800GT 512
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2333/dsc00075wn2.jpg
3Dmark 06 @stock clocks
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4864/39210318ha0.jpg

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 10:39 AM

From now on please submit your score/post the online score for 3D Marks instead. Please refrain from posting such large pictures, and remember to use something like techpowerup.org instead. Images at most should be 1024x786, anything bigger MUST be downsized or posted as a link.

theoldboy

01-28-2008, 10:53 AM

EDIT: Sunshine Coast... damn you guys are lucky up there. Get everything for almost as cheap as in the US :twitch:

Has not been very sunny this summer used to live in Melbourne till I found a better lifestyle
better go got to go surfing in the morning:D
can I be in your club :respect:

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 11:26 AM

Has not been very sunny this summer used to live in Melbourne till I found a better lifestyle
better go got to go surfing in the morning:D
can I be in your club :respect:

No probs, I'd like GPUZ verification as well from now on thanks.

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 01:15 PM

8800GT In my main Rig:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/Image032.jpg
X1950PRO In its new habitat:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/Image041.jpg

Notice how both systems use a P31 board and use the AcceleroS1 and are wired in a similar manner :).

[I.R.A]_FBi

01-28-2008, 01:30 PM

erm there is already an nvidia clubhouse, you guys couldve come taken it over.

FreedomEclipse

01-28-2008, 01:31 PM

hey guys sign me up. I currently have a XFX G92 8800GTS Alpha Dog Edition. what i mean when i say currently is that ive only had it for around 3 weeks or so. screenies & other shit coming soon

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 10:07 PM

_FBi;631186']erm there is already an nvidia clubhouse, you guys couldve come taken it over.

*SIGH* That was a Nvidia clubhouse, this is a clubhouse that supports Nvdia's 8 series products. I wouldn't want to take it over for several reasons, but I won't explain it here.

DaMulta

01-28-2008, 10:09 PM

My Gts will be in any day:)

tkpenalty

01-28-2008, 10:11 PM

My Gts will be in any day:)

Selling your HD2900PRO?

DaMulta

01-28-2008, 10:12 PM

Not at the moment.

DaMulta

01-28-2008, 10:19 PM

I just need to get a motherboard that supports SLi.

tkpenalty

01-29-2008, 12:29 AM

Stop double posting =_+

Took a less noisier pic

http://img.techpowerup.org/080128/Image048.jpg

DaMulta

01-29-2008, 12:31 AM

Need to just post to get this off the first page with all the pics:)

tkpenalty

01-29-2008, 03:26 AM

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NV1. Recommended Purchases from G8x/G9x Family
=================================

These are GPUs that are recommended for purchase for each price range. Please note that some are manufacturer, and model specific. Reasons will be explained. Basically the reasoning behind these choices is simple, practicality, durability and the value of the GPU itself.

Out of the 8800GT family

The 8800 family is filled with variations with many Manufacturers making customized designs of the 8800GT, first off we have the 8800GT 512MB. This is the IDEAL 8800GT, if you are counting value, and performance altogether.

The 8800GT 256MB suffers from inferior performance (approx +20%~ less compared to the 8800GT 512MB) due to the lack of framebuffer, which is a major issue with it. There is one advantage, which is price. However as performance suffers heavily with the reduced framebuffer on newer games it isn't a good choice.

The 8800GT 1GB, from PALIT and ASUS, while 1GB sounds like a nice number, it isn't necessarily useful. Practically, the 8800GT 1GB's extra load of framebuffer is extremely redundant. With less than half of the framebuffer utilised for all the games. Benchmarks also show that the performance does NOT increase at all with the redundant framebuffer-even in Crysis.

The 8800GT 512MB is the best option. Why? Price, performance value.

One problem. The reference 8800GT's phase design is very poorly designed. With only 1 Phase for the memory, and two phases for the Vcore. The main problem is that the Vcore phase's capacitors , chokes, MOSFETs, generally have a lot to handle. If we remove all the reference designs, we are left with two options.

The Palit 8800GT 512MB Sonic, or the Gigabyte 8800GT 512MB Ultra Durable 2 (GV-NX88T512HP)

The Palit 8800GT 512MB Sonic
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/07-10-30/Palit_8800GT.jpg
Gigabyte GV-NX88T512HP
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-125-087-03.jpg

Lets elaborate on the features of both cards shall we? Both cards sport a 3 Phase power design for the Vcore, as opposed to two. This does mean indeed that the phases will run cooler. However the Gigabyte edges out a tiny bit in this aspect with the components used in comparison. Both GPUs use non-reference cooling, which are of the same calibre (expect load temps of around 70*C~60*C), which is far superior than the stock reference (80*C + normally). Both cards furthermore, come pre-overclocked, which is a nice addition to their value.

Now to the differences, the Gigabyte 8800GT has one major advantage, as seen in the image, the 8800GT has a shorter PCB, around 1.5 Inches shorter. This means it is far more HTPC friendly compared to the Palit and other 8800GTs.

However on the other hand, the Palit has HDMI, which is slowly becoming needed for high end Flat screen TVs.

The Gigabyte has one rather unique feature, which is a power saving feature that is offered on their newer E series motherboards. Basically operating on the same principle, it cuts down power usage and temperatures by a hefty amount during Idle. Note that software is required for this feature to work however.

Out of the both of these GPUs, it comes down to your needs. The Gigabyte would be better if you worry about the durability and the size of the card, as well as the power saving, while the Palit would be better suited for when HDMI is needed in a high performance PC. It also boils down to the price, but take note of the advantages of each GPU, note that performance is almost the same with both.

Updated.

Skrabrug

01-29-2008, 03:34 AM

tkpenalty

01-29-2008, 03:54 AM

I have a Galaxy 8800GT HDMI (I prob would have gone with a differant brand but this is all they had in stock when i had the money xD)

it set me back $489 (places here over charge a lot)

and i have no idea what the HDMI feature is about : / (i mean the normal galaxy 8800GT has High Def features too and was cheaper @ $407 but they didnt order that one in anymore and only ordered these HDMI ones in)

Does it come with aftermarket cooling? Well, non refernce. Does it also have two PCI-E 6 pin connectors instead of 1? HDMI is a new type of video output port, however it also intergrates audio into it. I've seen the normal Galaxy 8800GT 512MB with the aftermarket and 2 PCI-E 6 pin for only $349.

Wile E

01-29-2008, 10:00 AM

My Gts will be in any day:)

Is that Gts as in multiple GT cards, or as in a GTS?

DaMulta

01-29-2008, 01:26 PM

multiple

:)

Woah Mama!

01-29-2008, 01:54 PM

I got me a 8800 GTS 320mb. Not the latest and greatest but I still love it, seeing games at over 100FPS is making me salivate :wtf:

I will post a pic of my new rig tomorrow.

Skrabrug

01-29-2008, 08:49 PM

Does it come with aftermarket cooling? Well, non refernce. Does it also have two PCI-E 6 pin connectors instead of 1? HDMI is a new type of video output port, however it also intergrates audio into it. I've seen the normal Galaxy 8800GT 512MB with the aftermarket and 2 PCI-E 6 pin for only $349.

yeah its got the duel PCI-E power connecters and the massive heatsink and fan on it XD

Actuly when i got it and opend it in the store i thought someone had put the 8600GT in the box xD

Galaxys 8600GT:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7669/8600gtspa7.jpg

Galaxys 8800GT HDMI (unsure why but this image doesnt have duel monitor outlet or the duel
PCI-E connectors but this is the 8800GT HDMI image Galaxy uses for advertisement?):
http://img.kakaku.com/images/productimage/fullscale/05501715203.jpg

Solaris17

01-29-2008, 09:05 PM

EVGA 8600GT hard and bios modded

Actual card in my rig

http://img.techpowerup.org/080129/evga protector.jpg

tkpenalty

01-30-2008, 02:39 AM

Added solaris.

Solaris 17

First non-8800 member
Nvidia 8 Series Mod Guru
Nvidia 8 Series Guru
God of 8600GT
Too-many-titles man

Model: EVGA 8600GT 256MB
Mods: Voltmods, Vcore 1.5v, Vmem 2.2v. Bios flashed to speeds.
OC: 750/1850/950
GPUZ: Here (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/cb84p/)

Join Date: 30/01/08

Are you using stock cooling? I couldn't find any clear pics of the 8600GT from yoru rig.

EDIT:

http://img.techpowerup.org/071111/6pin%20mod.jpg

How about adding a few more capacitors?

:eek:

Skrabrug

01-30-2008, 02:50 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/071111/6pin%20mod.jpg

Mmmmmm computer parts on carpet :P

Solaris17

01-30-2008, 02:57 AM

ya im using stock cooling lapped cooler and lapped core...and that quote is amazing made me blush.

Solaris17

01-30-2008, 03:03 AM

i think we need a cool sig pic with alot of gloss

tkpenalty

01-30-2008, 03:11 AM

i think we need a cool sig pic with alot of gloss

10-4 on that, assignment under way. Ill do it once I finish this assignment.

Solaris17

01-30-2008, 03:22 AM

haha i like this im part of a damn good club.

Skrabrug

01-30-2008, 03:31 AM

Can i join the club too T-T

Solaris17

01-30-2008, 03:35 AM

Skrabrug

01-30-2008, 03:37 AM

no

*cries like a lil emo bitch*
OH WOEEEEEE IS MEEEEEEEEH!!!!!

Corrosion

01-30-2008, 03:51 AM

CPU-GPU

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2029/cpugpugm0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/u3sdw/

tkpenalty

01-30-2008, 06:55 AM

Conditions of Joining
You may be in this thread without joining, however membership, means that you basically are entitled to a faster response to any help thats needed from me

-Must own G8x or G9x Series GPU in order to be applicable.
-Must have 50 posts or more, however exceptions ARE allowed in certain circumstances. If member has been on this forum for more than one month, the 50 post requirement is irrelevant.
-To join, the member MUST PM me, and also state their current setup. Images are welcome.
-Please post GPUZ verification in inclusion
-3D Mark scores are welcome

*coughs and whistles*

While I may have accepted in thread requests, please from now on PM me instead of posting here to be in the club. Thank you.

*cries like a lil emo bitch*
OH WOEEEEEE IS MEEEEEEEEH!!!!!

Frozen pizza?

Damn the 8800 bottlenecks like hell. 3D Marks is an example, up until around 3.0Ghz, the CPU bottlenecks the performance of the 8800. I usually run it at 2.8Ghz now thanks to this... Got crysis finally, pretty awesome game, however the save file stuffed up.........

Skrabrug

01-30-2008, 10:51 PM

i must get around to taking my pic stuff and sorting out my GPUz info :(

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 07:04 AM

Tkpenalty's [2008 Update - Rev.2] (http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1322/__1.jpg)
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1322/__1.jpg
Enjoy.

Now with the 8800GT. Well you guys already know, but I finally found my USB cable. I love how short the 8800GT is, its truly awesome that now I dont have to be so damn delicate handed while installing a HDD or something. Or, taking the GPU out. If you remember, the X1950PRO's Accelero's fins were almost mating with the 120mm intake.

Wile E

01-31-2008, 08:35 AM

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 08:39 AM

With the S1, it's just as long as your 1950Pro in the other rig.

I'll show you what I mean here..
http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/IMG_0333.jpg
See this pic? Compare the location of the core of the GPU. The X1950PRO's core is more towards the front of the case compared to the 8800GT due to the shorter PCB (Coincidentally the same thing applies for my motherboard). Therefore the AcceleroS1 is also shifted back towards the rear of the case more; a far more desirable positon.

Anyway some other news, I just figured out that it wasnt my PSU or anything that was slightly not grounding properly-it was my power board. Immediately switched, now PC doesn't suffer from random problems (didn't bitch about them here though...).

SLi looks nice. 8800GT SLi + Sli board + nice cable management = drool.

Wile E

01-31-2008, 08:43 AM

I'll show you what I mean here..
http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/IMG_0333.jpg
See this pic? Compare the location of the core of the GPU. The X1950PRO's core is more towards the front of the case compared to the 8800GT due to the shorter PCB (Coincidentally the same thing applies for my motherboard). Therefore the AcceleroS1 is also shifted back towards the rear of the case more; a far more desirable positon.

Anyway some other news, I just figured out that it wasnt my PSU or anything that was slightly not grounding properly-it was my power board. Immediately switched, now PC doesn't suffer from random problems (didn't bitch about them here though...).

SLi looks nice. 8800GT SLi + Sli board + nice cable management = drool.Ah, ok. Makes more sense now.

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 08:47 AM

Ah, ok. Makes more sense now.

No probs man.

Time to see what 3.0Ghz does for my 3D Marks... It SHOULD unlock more performance for the 8800, for sure.

Wile E

01-31-2008, 08:48 AM

No probs man.

Time to see what 3.0Ghz does for my 3D Marks... It SHOULD unlock more performance for the 8800, for sure.
Absolutely does.

Bjorn_Of_Iceland

01-31-2008, 09:50 AM

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 10:52 AM

yeah.. 8800GTs look kewl. But they are old.. was planning to get an 8800GTS G92, but seeing 9800GX2 is just around the corner, I opted to wait (also was planning to get 8800GTXs but seeing that they are near eol).

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1249/4.jpg

The second I get my hands on em 9800GX2s, I'll chuck these cheap bastards out teh window. Cuz theyr cheap. Nothing special bout em. Anyone can get em.. I even smirk at people who acquired a single 8800GT and do a vid of it at youtube. meh.

You might want to think about what you just said again. Just because you are financially able it doesnt give you the right at all to downtalk people who are all happy over stuff like that. Sure I didn't laugh and party in joy, but I know people who would. You seem to not know how harsh this world is sometimes from what you just said, sorry but i don't like and tolerate any form of ignorance...

MANY people I know can't afford to shell out money to buy even a HD3850 let alone a 8800GT. So they aren't two pieces of insignificant "crap". Just remember that you are more financially able than other people and if you live with your parents, you are very lucky to be supported by them in such a way where life is fairly simple; they go through the hardships. You dont.

Many of my friend's parents limit spending, some are just plain corrupted misers, but others really can't afford to shell out a few hundred dollars on an "insignificant" item such as a 8800GT. Not everyone drives a bloody BMW in this world and not everyone can even buy a car.

/rant off...

Sorry, might have sounded fairly hostile to you but hope you learnt from that :toast:.

Anyways... back on topic.

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13797360

Can someone tell me how that guy with his CPU clocked at 3.4Ghz was able to have such a huge score difference? Water cooled 8800GT? :confused:

Bjorn_Of_Iceland

01-31-2008, 11:02 AM

grats on your 8800GT though

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 11:20 AM

grats on your 8800GT though

Thanks ;)

Tatty_one has been added.

Tatty_One

01-31-2008, 11:21 AM

OnBoard

01-31-2008, 11:29 AM

I'm waiting for Inno3D Edition of 8800gt 512MB to arrive. Not a reference desing, but is that same 2phase? Nothing on their page or in the net for that matter, brand new. But it was so cheap (199€) that couldn't resist, especially as I've waited 3months for one.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/images.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/images2.jpg

ps. Bjorn_Of_Iceland I'm happy about it too, but not going to post a video ;)

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 11:30 AM

You are comparing a current mid ranged product with a future Super High end product so nt comparing like with like at all really.

The nice thing for current GT owners is that it would appear that NVidia's new mid ranged 9 series card will perform no better than the current 8800GT so in fact, buying the 8800GT was a fairly good investment at this time, perhaps we should remember that 90% of graphics card sales are made from the mid and lower end markets and thats what pays for the development of the top end cards :D

I agree with that, that brings me to another point, what the point of the 9600GT? :wtf: its to "bridge a gap" isnt it? But the 8800 by then will virtually be the same price as the 9600GT, boasting more for the same price which is rather weird.

(And why did they have to look bad by copying AMD...)

I have to say, AMD should have named the 8800GT the 9800GT instead, that would have made a LOT more sense... loads of people are getting confused... when you say "i got a 8800", just confuses the hell out of the not-so-up-to-date-people lol

I'm waiting for Inno3D Edition of 8800gt 512MB to arrive. Not a reference desing, but is that same 2phase? Nothing on their page or in the net for that matter, brand new. But it was so cheap (199€) that couldn't resist, especially as I've waited 3months for one.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/images.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080131/images2.jpg

ps. Bjorn_Of_Iceland I'm happy about it too, but not going to post a video ;)

Sorry, but that is the reference PCB, two phase. At least it comes with a better designed cooler, except that stiffening strut will block airflow from the heatsink. I don't expect the cooler to do better, but it will certainly be quieter in contrast. To be honest with you it looks a bit on the weak side, the 8800GT isnt exactly a cool running card. I'd naturally expect to see you quickly change that cooler. Good that Inno3D installed those heatsinks on the MOSFETs though. Grab yourself something like an AcceleroS1 and a set of turbo modules :). AcceleroS1 is veeery cheap, yet it gives rather impressive performance for the price you pay for it.

Tatty_One

01-31-2008, 11:42 AM

And TK, when you take into account the 8800GS has now been released, it confuses the issue even more!

OnBoard

01-31-2008, 11:45 AM

Sorry, but that is the reference PCB, two phase. At least it comes with a better designed cooler, except that stiffening strut will block airflow from the heatsink. I don't expect the cooler to do better, but it will certainly be quieter in contrast. To be honest with you it looks a bit on the weak side, the 8800GT isnt exactly a cool running card. I'd naturally expect to see you quickly change that cooler. Good that Inno3D installed those heatsinks on the MOSFETs though. Grab yourself something like an AcceleroS1 and a set of turbo modules :). AcceleroS1 is veeery cheap, yet it gives rather impressive performance for the price you pay for it.

No it's not, here's the reference one and it's completely different PCB design.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_8800_GT/images/card_naked.jpg

And yes, I'm swapping the VF900 out of my x1900xt to it and probably making some custom ram sinks, hence I went for the cheapest one. Was waiting for the 3-phase Palit, but they just don't come, one and a half month of waiting them too.

Do know about Accelero S1, I'd probably gone with ECS 8800GT version with it installed, if I'd not have an aftermarket cooler ready. I like the mosfet sinks too, less work for me, looks like the PCB could have a lot more components, maybe they are saving those for own OC version.

tkpenalty

01-31-2008, 12:37 PM

No it's not, here's the reference one and it's completely different PCB design.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_8800_GT/images/card_naked.jpg

And yes, I'm swapping the VF900 out of my x1900xt to it and probably making some custom ram sinks, hence I went for the cheapest one. Was waiting for the 3-phase Palit, but they just don't come, one and a half month of waiting them too.

Do know about Accelero S1, I'd probably gone with ECS 8800GT version with it installed, if I'd not have an aftermarket cooler ready. I like the mosfet sinks too, less work for me, looks like the PCB could have a lot more components, maybe they are saving those for own OC version.

No, 8800GTS 512MB. Anyway, yes the components look better, larger choke coil, and also pretty beefy looking capacitors. Just the core and memory cooling dont look so good however.

philbrown23

01-31-2008, 01:41 PM

this is mine

256MB GDDR3
256 BIT BANDWIDTH
650MHZ CORE CLOCK
1620MHZ SHADER CLOCK
1800MHZ(2X900) MEMORY CLOCK
57.6GB/S MEMORY BANDWIDTH
112 SHADERS
10.4PIXELS/S PIXEL FILLRATE
10.4GTEXEL/S TEXTURE FILLRATE
65NM GPU RIVISION A2

OnBoard

01-31-2008, 01:53 PM

No, 8800GTS 512MB. Anyway, yes the components look better, larger choke coil, and also pretty beefy looking capacitors. Just the core and memory cooling dont look so good however.

Yep, propably just a big aluminium sink that would make an excellent large memorysink, if I'd just drill out room for VF900 in the middle, but I'd need to keep that intact for warranty. I'm just hoping there would be holes in the PCB around memory, so that I could go silicon paste + screws on memorysinks, if not then thermaltape it is.

It will be stock just enough that I see it work, then I'll take it a part :) Oh and please Inno3D, no NVIDIA gooeythermaltapestuff, use your own under there pretty please (read that stuff is PITA to clean).

craigwhiteside

01-31-2008, 01:58 PM

can i join :D, i got the ECS 8800GT with accelero S1 :D

DaMulta

02-01-2008, 11:11 PM

My 8800GTs(not gts) came in today. I can't believe how heavy these stock coolers are on the Palit 1Gb cards.

Wile E

02-01-2008, 11:47 PM

My 8800GTs(not gts) came in today. I can't believe how heavy these stock coolers are on the Palit 1Gb cards.You're gonna love em DM. They made a believer out of me. Oh, and scaling WORKS!!! It's amazing! lol.

DaMulta

02-01-2008, 11:54 PM

Just D:)

I feel kindda ____ about having a N product. BUT they seem very well built.

Wile E

02-01-2008, 11:59 PM

Just D:)

I feel kindda ____ about having a N product. BUT they seem very well built.

But I like DM better, you know, like Danger Mouse (the old cartoon). lol.

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 12:02 AM

Wile E

02-02-2008, 12:08 AM

LOL

No one calls me DM tho hahaha, go to a lan and everyone calls me D. Or jump on teamspeak with us soon.

Do you have COD4?

That goes for you too Tatty_One.

I can't wait to OC these cards!!!! I'm doing my copper tube tomorrow.No TS here. I don't own a mic. And no COD4 either. :(

And these cards OCed are beasts. AA performance is superb.

Corrosion

02-02-2008, 01:19 AM

Just D:)

I feel kindda ____ about having a N product. BUT they seem very well built.

lol, ur in teamati arent ya?

Wile E

02-02-2008, 01:22 AM

lol, ur in teamati arent ya?

Team Palit now.

me too :D

Corrosion

02-02-2008, 01:43 AM

Just D:)

I feel kindda ____ about having a N product. BUT they seem very well built.

lol, ur in teamati arent ya?

strick94u

02-02-2008, 01:44 AM

Can i join your cult?
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b389/strick94u/4g3d.jpg

Wile E

02-02-2008, 01:44 AM

lol, ur in teamati arent ya?

Double post? read post above yours.

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 02:22 AM

lol, ur in teamati arent ya?

Was, now I am in TeamPalit, and Wile E is on the new sub team OverClocking TeamPalit.
So Damulta[lit]
Wile E[ocLIT]
And Wile E go buy a 10.00 mic at walmart......:shadedshu

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 02:28 AM

Damn PCCLUB

They had a ASUS Maximus Extreme LGA775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard Retail
in the store, BUT big BUT it was already sold:banghead:

I sit there and looked at it for 15 mins or so, and then said I'll take it. Then he said sorry this one is already sold(With a smile):shadedshu.

So I guess I was meant to wait.

Wile E

02-02-2008, 03:35 AM

Was, now I am in TeamPalit, and Wile E is on the new sub team OverClocking TeamPalit.
So Damulta[lit]
Wile E[ocLIT]
And Wile E go buy a 10.00 mic at walmart......:shadedshuI always end up finding something better to spend my $10 on. :roll:

I'm not much of a talker anyway. I'd bore you guys most likely. lol.

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 03:35 AM

LOL go buy the mic.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5708/octohw1.jpg

Who?

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 03:44 AM

LOL go buy the mic.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5708/octohw1.jpg

Who?

What the hell is that :eek:

What a weird waterblock, whats the point of having so many hoses?

Wile E

02-02-2008, 03:48 AM

LOL go buy the mic.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5708/octohw1.jpg

Who?Wow! That has to be restrictive. lol.

Can't go get a Mic this weekend. No car. :(

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 03:49 AM

What the hell is that :eek:

What a weird waterblock, whats the point of having so many hoses?
Looks would be my guess, without two pumps one before and one after I don't know how well it would work.

ChillyMyst

02-02-2008, 04:12 AM

No probs, I'd like GPUZ verification as well from now on thanks.

hey guys look a forum nazi!!!!! havent seen one of these in a long time, i mean wow, telling people they MUST post gpuz pix, and they MUST submit their scores to 3dmark website.....

i have an 8800gt 720/1775/2100, but i dont want to join your club, mostly because you come off as a twonk, the attatude you have excibited here and on other threds like your x1k-hd clubhouse and in genral leads me to belive you think your in charge of how people should think and post.

and talk about spam......you posted a thred asking if you should get an 8800gt or 3870 after u already ordered the 8800gt, then waited pages b4 you admited the thred was an UTTERLY POINTLESS WAIST OF PEOPLES TIME.

that said, i want WileE's card :)

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 04:39 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 004.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 024.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 007.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 003.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 011.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080201/palit 018.jpg

Wile E

02-02-2008, 04:40 AM

WTH, D? You left out the Boros in the pics. :roll:

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 04:41 AM

???? I'll take more, about to slam one in.

ChillyMyst

02-02-2008, 04:43 AM

those the same thermal pads that nvidia uses on the stock coolers? i trimed mine down, they where almost 2x as large as they needed to be, stuff reminds me of white calk with cloth fibers in it........nasty!!!!

Random Murderer

02-02-2008, 05:28 AM

Hijack! Thread Hijack!

Urbklr

02-02-2008, 05:30 AM

TRIPPY:eek:

Yea, try scrolling while looking at it:eek:

Wile E

02-02-2008, 05:31 AM

lol. Oh man, you guys are screwed. You know tk is gonna flip and report you. Best of luck. lol.

Urbklr

02-02-2008, 05:39 AM

We know:p.....

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 05:57 AM

wow that was fun :)

PrudentPrincess

02-02-2008, 06:18 AM

lol. Oh man, you guys are screwed. You know tk is gonna flip and report you. Best of luck. lol.

You can't report rainbows. It's immoral.

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 06:19 AM

hahaha....so true :)

Wile E

02-02-2008, 06:21 AM

You can't report rainbows. It's immoral.

They'll get a spam report. Mark my words. lol.

Wile E

02-02-2008, 06:26 AM

It did net you a nice sig. lol.

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 06:27 AM

:)

Rainbows ftw

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 06:32 AM

hey guys look a forum nazi!!!!! havent seen one of these in a long time, i mean wow, telling people they MUST post gpuz pix, and they MUST submit their scores to 3dmark website.....

i have an 8800gt 720/1775/2100, but i dont want to join your club, mostly because you come off as a twonk, the attatude you have excibited here and on other threds like your x1k-hd clubhouse and in genral leads me to belive you think your in charge of how people should think and post.

and talk about spam......you posted a thred asking if you should get an 8800gt or 3870 after u already ordered the 8800gt, then waited pages b4 you admited the thred was an UTTERLY POINTLESS WAIST OF PEOPLES TIME.

that said, i want WileE's card :)

:shadedshu

Your attitude is what needs fixing.

lol. Oh man, you guys are screwed. You know tk is gonna flip and report you. Best of luck. lol.

They beefed the thread up :p But if it continues I'd flip. I'd ask a moderator and ask for their opinion, of what that stuff last page was.

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 06:34 AM

Use a rainbow to fix his attitude :)

DaMulta

02-02-2008, 06:34 AM

BACK ON TOPIC.

Now what programs are the best to use with these cards?

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 06:37 AM

BACK ON TOPIC.

Now what programs are the best to use with these cards?

ATi Tool OR Riva tuner.

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 06:43 AM

They beefed the thread up :p But if it continues I'd flip. I'd ask a moderator and ask for their opinion, of what that stuff last page was.

We got warned from LiNKiN :(

Random Murderer

02-02-2008, 06:47 AM

They beefed the thread up :p But if it continues I'd flip. I'd ask a moderator and ask for their opinion, of what that stuff last page was.

they did it in the core 2 clubhouse and the hd2k-hd3k clubhouse as well.

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 06:50 AM

they did it in the core 2 clubhouse and the hd2k-hd3k clubhouse as well.

Really? I've already had a bad few days. GG NO RE By mod PLZ.

mrw1986

02-02-2008, 07:00 AM

Woo, I can officially say I'm a part of this clubhouse now. Just ordered my 2x evga 8800GT from the egg last nite and they should be here wednesday! All the parts for my new system are here just waiting for the gfx to build it!

3991vhtes

02-02-2008, 07:01 AM

they did it in the core 2 clubhouse and the hd2k-hd3k clubhouse as well.

No one likes a tattle tale :(

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 07:01 AM

mrw1986

02-02-2008, 07:07 AM

I'm probably going to put Accelero S1's on each. Although I'm gonna see what temps I'm gonna have first. I have a P182 case with 5x Yate Loons in it so it has excellent ventilation. I'm also using an H20-120 Compact kit for my CPU.

P.S. - I'm an idiot because I've had an 8600GT for a few months now, so I could be part of this club anyway, doh!

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 07:11 AM

mrw1986

02-02-2008, 07:13 AM

Ya ASUS makes some. They go for like $10 or so. Anyway, on that note, I'm heading to bed!

Random Murderer

02-02-2008, 07:39 AM

No one likes a tattle tale :(

nobody likes trolls either.

Corrosion

02-02-2008, 07:45 AM

Wow, a full page of rainbows ... anyway, whats the best after market cooling for an 8800gts that cools the ram also?

Random Murderer

02-02-2008, 07:46 AM

Wow, a full page of rainbows ... anyway, whats the best after market cooling for an 8800gts that cools the ram also?

zalman vf1000?

Corrosion

02-02-2008, 07:49 AM

K, ill check it out on egg, thanks

Edit: Looks nice, but im gonna wait till after or at the same time i upgrade to a Q6600.

tkpenalty

02-02-2008, 08:05 AM

K, ill check it out on egg, thanks

Edit: Looks nice, but im gonna wait till after or at the same time i upgrade to a Q6600.

Thermalright V2, it outperforms the VF1000.

Corrosion

02-02-2008, 08:41 AM

ok, thanks for the help bro. ill check it out later. right now UT3

ChillyMyst

02-02-2008, 11:11 AM

lol. Oh man, you guys are screwed. You know tk is gonna flip and report you. Best of luck. lol.

They'll get a spam report. Mark my words. lol.

im sure the first thing TPK did when he refreshed the page and found that was crap himself as he clicked report on each post and frothed at the mouth as he typed how horrable they where for spaming his thred like that, like the times i have seen him re-make his "rate this system" because somebody gave him a bad review........ at least hes not admited hes mentaly unstable!!!!! now if only he goes and gets some help for it.

i would post some rainbows to calm him down but he may die from the aneurysm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurysm) it is likely to cause if he sees another one any time soon.

oh and i have seen good reports using the OLD thermal right 7 seirse gpu coolers on the common 8800 cards, just a SMALL tweak to the cooler or the cards fan power connection and they go right on and blow the heat OUT OF THE CASE!!!!!

Tatty_One

02-02-2008, 02:54 PM

tkpenalty

02-03-2008, 12:29 AM

im sure the first thing TPK did when he refreshed the page and found that was crap himself as he clicked report on each post and frothed at the mouth as he typed how horrable they where for spaming his thred like that, like the times i have seen him re-make his "rate this system" because somebody gave him a bad review........ at least hes not admited hes mentaly unstable!!!!! now if only he goes and gets some help for it.

i would post some rainbows to calm him down but he may die from the aneurysm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurysm) it is likely to cause if he sees another one any time soon.

oh and i have seen good reports using the OLD thermal right 7 seirse gpu coolers on the common 8800 cards, just a SMALL tweak to the cooler or the cards fan power connection and they go right on and blow the heat OUT OF THE CASE!!!!!

Now remove that sig quote or I'll flip.....First you call me a nazi now this. Why haven't the mods even bothered to remove that spam?

Corrosion

02-03-2008, 12:35 AM

guys leave tkp alone. theres no reson to talk crap about him.

PrudentPrincess

02-03-2008, 02:48 AM

Ok back on topic AGAIN I just installed my 8800gt into my matx case. (surprising amount of room for a longer card, maybe I'll have to get a 3870x2.) I'll post pics soon.

Corrosion

02-03-2008, 03:09 AM

Yeah, the day after i bought my 8800gts i saw the 3770 xe's on egg. i wanted one so bad but o well. i love my 8800.

craigwhiteside

02-06-2008, 03:34 PM

can i join the 8 series club :)

I have the ECS 8800GT 512MB that comes with the Accelero S1 already installed with ramsinks and includes the turbo module :D

default clocks are 600/1620/1800 and is now clocked at 720/1750/2110 :toast:

here is a pic of what my card looks like

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/images/news/071205_002.jpg

will take some pics on my card :)

they idle without turbo modules is 43 and load reaches around 50-52
idle is 39 degree's, load is 44 degree's with turbo modules running
(will swap stock thermal paste with some mx-2 soon)

ambient temp is around 26 degrees

Edit: managed to get 30 degrees idle on my GPU xD, 1 degree lower than CPU :toast:

FreedomEclipse

02-06-2008, 11:58 PM

Right - Sorry its taken me so long (almost 2 weeks?!?!) to get around to do some screenies - i have been a very busy bunny often to busy in CoD4 to even care about personal hygene since I got this new graphics card in. so without further f**king around...

& the boxs are still in the corner like it was Christmas yesterday
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n210/FinalFreedomEclipse/DSC00034.jpg

My score - keep in mind that I am running this on a machine that has 'aged gracefully' with a few minor hicups (check my spec tab) what ever you people may say i dont care cuz it was huge boost over my X1800XT & thats all that matters think my X1800XT struggled to break the 9k+ barrier....
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n210/FinalFreedomEclipse/My8800GTS.jpg

Corrosion

02-09-2008, 06:06 AM

erocker

02-09-2008, 06:31 AM

eVGA 8800GTS 640mb
Recieved from eVGA 10/22/07 via tradeup from 320mb
Bios is flashed to 675/1570/972
Idle 41c Load 64c Stock cooler w/MX-2 applied

*Btw, this 3d06 score was a death run for my Opteron which can no longer clock past 2.8ghz without getting too hot. It was a good chip.

philbrown23

02-09-2008, 12:32 PM

ok so here's my new bfg geforce 8800gts 512 oc edition

Tatty_One

02-09-2008, 01:25 PM

ok so here's my new bfg geforce 8800gts 512 oc edition

Nice.....show us what she can do!

ChillyMyst

02-09-2008, 06:02 PM

ok so here's my new bfg geforce 8800gts 512 oc edition

i have that card, have had 5 of them in my hands so far, some will NOT overclock very well others overclock quite well.......the one i have is the cherry, 720/775/2100 so far :)

wolf

02-10-2008, 01:03 PM

id love to join, perhaps even as an exec as i feel i have the experience and knowledge to seriously help the 8 series community, but even as a standard member would be tits.

the cards.

G92GT - 8800GT
XFX Reference card + Reference cooler @ 100% fan
Bios modded to 720/1782/1944
GPU-Z: http://users.tpg.com.au/b3rtrand//88gpuz.JPG

G84GT - 8600GT (i have 2 of these identical)
XFX XXX Edition + stock Zalman VF 700
Both Bios modded to 742/1836/1700
GPU-Z: http://users.tpg.com.au/b3rtrand//86gpuz.JPG

all three cards listed are IN USE at the moment, all at the same time, on my 680i board.

on my current setup on the left tab, one 8600GT pulls 6666 06'3dmarks, the two 8600's in sli pull 10,781, and the 8800GT pulls 12,603. all at the above mentioned clock speeds.

and tkpenalty i have PM'd you about this, and as i said, id love to be an exec, if you cant just take my word for it, talk to Solaris, he knows im not talking from my ass :laugh:

FreedomEclipse

02-10-2008, 05:21 PM

^^ you should upgrade your CPU ram and mobo to an am2 or c2d, i just put in a amd 6400 black 2 gig of ram. and i went from 14K to 17K. it would be a good idea if you wanna bring the best out of your card

yes If i got 1 Dime/UK Sterling/etc each time i heard someone say these exact words to me - Id be able to buy out Yahoo & not have them refuse my first offer - please excuse my extreme sarcasm

socket462

02-10-2008, 09:38 PM

Hey all- New to forum-- New to Nvidia cards in general-- my other Nvidia is a TNT2.

Just got my new XFX 8800GTS 512 Alpha Dog-- 650/972- Using Nvidia driver- I am able to get this to 803/1048. I am trying to reach the 15000 mark in 3Dmark06-- 14844 is what I can reach here.

Are there any other tools that work well with these 8800 cards?

My rig:
E8400 3.0/3.7
2 Gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR1066
Asus Maximus Formula X38 board
WD Raptor 150GB HD
XFX 8800GTS 512 Alpha Dog 650/972 stock 803/1048 OC

ChillyMyst

02-10-2008, 09:46 PM

socket462

02-10-2008, 09:55 PM

turn down all driver quility settings as low as they go that will give you a higher score, its common for 3dmark runs to be done at as low quility a setting as people can manage.

DO NOT GAME WITH THOSE SETTINGS, games will look like crap.

this is one reasion i alwase say "3dmark is a joke, it dosnt show real game perf, but it is pretty fun to watch the first few times"

also try running glexcess ;)

Thanks for the fast reply-- I will try glexcess-- I have never heard of it before- dl'ing now.

I was not aware that you could 'cheat' that way with driver settings. If I were to do that I would feel like I was cheating myself.
I must say- I am now a huge fan of Nvidia! I was an ATI fanboy- 8500/X800GTO/X1950PRO- but upon much investigation, this card is definately worth it! Crysis on Ultra High @20 FPS!! Playable AND gorgeous!

ChillyMyst

02-10-2008, 10:00 PM

just a warrning, theres a bug in current nvidia drivers, videos that use YV12 color spacing will render all f'ed up, you have to dissable that mode if you know how, if not, install latist ffdshow and ask for help dissabling yv12 :)

nvidia fixed it in a beta, then the full that came from that beta had the bugg again......alot of codec makers now dissable yv12 on nvidia cards without you having to uncheck the box/manulay dissable it, the codec just sees ur on an nvidia card and uses an alternate spacing to avoid the rendering errors :)

socket462

02-10-2008, 10:25 PM

tkpenalty

02-14-2008, 09:22 AM

baccckkk... been busy this week. Anyway, havent been gaming much. Hey has anyone tested any of the customized forceware drivers before?

Tatty_One

02-14-2008, 10:24 AM

baccckkk... been busy this week. Anyway, havent been gaming much. Hey has anyone tested any of the customized forceware drivers before?

Do you mean the modded drivers? As in Xtreme-G or Warcat? If so, yes, I have used them a lot in the past but dont do currently.

ChillyMyst

02-14-2008, 02:24 PM

dont forget omegas moded drivers ;)

craigwhiteside

02-14-2008, 02:50 PM

i wants to be in clubby :(

candle_86

02-14-2008, 06:37 PM

count me in, i have an MSI 8600GT DDR2 and have an XFX 8800GS ordered

Tatty_One

02-14-2008, 07:17 PM

dont forget omegas moded drivers ;)

Omega's tend to concentrate on improved IQ and therefore are slower, I only use modded drivers for benching and therefore I go for "faster" :p

Corrosion

02-15-2008, 12:40 AM

Just tweaked my system and got this score in 3dmark

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=4008728&resultType=12

tkpenalty

02-15-2008, 06:17 AM

Omega's tend to concentrate on improved IQ and therefore are slower, I only use modded drivers for benching and therefore I go for "faster" :p

Slower by how much? The IQ of the 8800s isnt too good seriously...

Wile E

02-15-2008, 06:44 AM

Slower by how much? The IQ of the 8800s isnt too good seriously...I have to disagree there. It's on par with my 2900XT. Perhaps you just need to do a little tweaking?

Note that I always tweak my settings, no matter which brand of card I use. Nothing stays box stock with me. lol.

Tatty_One

02-15-2008, 12:35 PM

Slower by how much? The IQ of the 8800s isnt too good seriously...

depends on the modded driver of course, ifm a driver set is modded for improved IQ then you could expect a 5-10% lesser performance for probably around 5-10% better quality.

tkpenalty

02-15-2008, 11:53 PM

I have to disagree there. It's on par with my 2900XT. Perhaps you just need to do a little tweaking?

Note that I always tweak my settings, no matter which brand of card I use. Nothing stays box stock with me. lol.

I'm comparing this with the X1950PRO and HD3850.

In NFS PS, the 8800GT has a noticeable Moire pattern with the textures that are further away. The X1950PRO/HD3850 dont have this, and the textures look cleaner.

wolf

02-16-2008, 11:15 AM

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 01:20 AM

so when your NOS'ing at 250+ kph, you can notice a Moire pattern with the FAR away textures? and "cleaner" textures? im sorry but nobody plays nfs to park the car and watch the textures go by. UNLESS of course youre playing it JUST to look for exceptionally slight texture differences......

i have owned over 15 gfx cards starting with a 3dfx voodoo banshee 2, and when playing the same game on 2 different cards, all ive ever noticed was FPS differences, and SLIGHT anti aliasing differences, but eh, each to their own i say. you MUST be a true tweaker :P

so tkpenalty, have you reviewed my application to join this fine clubhouse? if its anything like the x1950 one i was in, this should be a very popular forum.

Yeah, sorry I've been rather busy, I'll get to it. You are in, but i havent recorded that yet.

Anyway, why the GV NX8800GT512HP REV1.0 is the best, apart from the fact that the VF830 ALCU keeps the card under 50*C, it also has software voltage control... which I'm using atm.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/untitled.jpg

Remember, the Gigabyte's 8800GT also has a shorter PCB... I just tested the power saving features too, and man they work well.

wolf

02-17-2008, 01:48 AM

ill agreed wholeheartedly with that, i have owned a few gigabyte mobo's and had mates with mobo's and cards, they make damn good gear.

the ultra durable 2 all by itself will probably aid your o/c's with all their wicked capacitors and ferrite core chokes and what not, not to mention voltage control, thats totally sick.

and 760 core, v nice man.

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 02:14 AM

Note that I'm using proper cooling for the memory, and fan + Accelero as well. 780/2000

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 02:38 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/untitled377.jpg

Screenie :D

Going to 3D mark soon...

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 02:59 AM

ooh nice tk :), can you add me on member list please ^^

btw: death note O_o :laugh:

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 03:03 AM

btw what are your idle temps for your 8800gt?

erocker

02-17-2008, 03:05 AM

Going to 3D mark soon...

Finally! :toast:

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 03:07 AM

here is mine :p

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12247&d=1203209215

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 03:17 AM

30 degree's on gpu :rockout:, 1 degree lower than my cpu :p

wolf

02-17-2008, 03:33 AM

jolly good show tk

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 03:36 AM

30 degree's on gpu :rockout:, 1 degree lower than my cpu :p

You live in the UK :p of course you will get those temps, its freezing up there!

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 03:37 AM

hehe, the accelero helps a lot though :rockout:

let me in the clubby!!!111!!!

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 03:50 AM

hehe, the accelero helps a lot though :rockout:

letm ein the clubby!!!111!!!

Roger that... busy!!!!

By the way, are Deltas like "Delta of 22 in 1 pixels, 22.00avg" artifacts?

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 03:57 AM

sounds like, i get them in ati tool, i think its the measure of how many errors there are in each pixel

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 03:59 AM

sounds like, i get them in ati tool, i think its the measure of how many errors there are in each pixel

It doesnt really count it as an error though (however i notice a slight alteration of a pixel... so might be an artifact).

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 04:00 AM

its not so bad if you get them say once every couple of minutes, with high overclocks like yours its probably normal

craigwhiteside

02-17-2008, 04:01 AM

btw here is a link to the specs i filled in before :)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=645875&postcount=124

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 07:25 AM

Wtf...score is a bit low... 11.9k :|WTF?

i was getting higher before. When I downclock the score worsens.... Using ATI tool to set clocks seems to help a bit....

I cant seem to be able to push the shaders up any higher for some reason :\

EDIT: Okay dropped back to 770, shaders can be pushed more... wish gigabyte let us push it to 1.3v.

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 07:52 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/080217/untitled430.jpg

770/1860/2000, time to test it >=D

EDIT: MOSFETs running way too hot for my comfort at 1.2v. Going to have to buy some heatsinks and probably change the fan im using atm on it.

wolf

02-17-2008, 09:25 AM

ati tool artifacts pretty bad for me on my 8800 and 8600's, but no game has ever glitched or crashed on the clocks that i run the artifact scan on, weird....

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 09:42 AM

ati tool artifacts pretty bad for me on my 8800 and 8600's, but no game has ever glitched or crashed on the clocks that i run the artifact scan on, weird....

You probably dont notice it then

wolf

02-17-2008, 09:47 AM

no, its not that i don't notice it, its that its NOT happening.

i do always pay VERY close attention to what my games look like. they are NOT artifacting, and ATItool is. its that simple.

Wile E

02-17-2008, 09:49 AM

no, its not that i don't notice it, its that its NOT happening.

i do always pay VERY close attention to what my games look like. they are NOT artifacting, and ATItool is. its that simple.What Tk means is, it may not necessarily be visibly artifacting, but it is still erroring. Not all errors made by video cards are perceivable by the human eye.

wolf

02-17-2008, 09:50 AM

well in that case im not fussed, since XFX will replace it if it dies anyway, im only interested in what i can see + fps.

Wile E

02-17-2008, 09:53 AM

well in that case im not fussed, since XFX will replace it if it dies anyway, im only interested in what i can see + fps.

Can't argue with that logic. lol.

wolf

02-17-2008, 09:55 AM

its one of the reasons i love xfx :P there are definatly better cards out there to buy, tk's per example, however who can argue with double lifetime modder friendly?

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 09:57 AM

I have to say, overclocking ISNT the main reason why the card is good, its the power saving feature which I really think is amazing. None of the other GPUs on the market have it!

Wile E

02-17-2008, 10:06 AM

Meh. Screw power saving. I'm not running it on batteries, so I don't care.

wolf

02-17-2008, 10:13 AM

lol, good point, but still we should all make an effort to be more green right?
personally i'd say my favorite features on that card would be the zalman cooler, and the ultra durable 2 board and components.

tkpenalty

02-17-2008, 10:49 AM

Meh. Screw power saving. I'm not running it on batteries, so I don't care.

So you dont care about your power bill right? Upgrading PCs, the power bill went up by a noticeable amount so, yeah, I'd reconsider what you just said.

Power saving, doesnt also mean its more green, think about your PSU. Your PSU is getting stressed less, which means less heat overall.

wolf

02-17-2008, 01:12 PM

saving power of any kind, in any circumstance has to be a good thing.

less money on the bill, less heat, less killing our lovely planet :D

Wile E

02-17-2008, 07:01 PM

So you dont care about your power bill right? Upgrading PCs, the power bill went up by a noticeable amount so, yeah, I'd reconsider what you just said.

Power saving, doesnt also mean its more green, think about your PSU. Your PSU is getting stressed less, which means less heat overall.I'm not saying it's a bad thing. For those that want it, it's a very good thing. I'm just not one to care.

DaMulta

02-17-2008, 07:42 PM

Meh. Screw power saving. I'm not running it on batteries, so I don't care.

So true:toast:

I live in America were it is ok to waste anything again again and again.

KieranD

02-17-2008, 08:20 PM

can i join the club i have an 8800gt xpertvision/palit 512mb clocked to

GPU 771mhz
memory 932mhz
shader 1750mhz

anyone know any good drivers for the 8800gt im using 173.80 unofficial beta
sometimes i get a display drivers failed message and a triangle with a exclamation mark in it and i have to restart the program i was using was using official drivers before tho

Widjaja

02-18-2008, 01:38 AM

Which Gigabyte 8800GT Ultra Durable 2 is the latest?

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/WiFry/8800GTUltras.jpg

I read at another forum the first ones had a memory overheating issue.

wolf

02-18-2008, 03:04 AM

i believe the one on the right is the most recent, but tk will know fo sho'

a_ump

02-18-2008, 03:49 AM

wolf

02-18-2008, 04:01 AM

after a very quick look around the net, it seems that reinstalling applications and drivers doesn't do squat, hence you may want to consider a windows rebuild from scratch.

don't do it yet though, other knowledgeable members here may have some helpful input.

tkpenalty

02-18-2008, 07:05 AM

Which Gigabyte 8800GT Ultra Durable 2 is the latest?

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/WiFry/8800GTUltras.jpg

I read at another forum the first ones had a memory overheating issue.

The one with the VF700ALCU is the old one, i have that one, the one with the VF830ALCU is the one on the right. They are both IDENTICAL except for cooling.

The first Gigabyte's Ultra durable 8800GTs had a memory overheating issue when the cards were at DDR1900, so thats why the speed was stepped down to DDR1840. However it has been shown that with heatsinks on the memory gigabyte's 8800GT is able to do DDR2000.

tkpenalty

02-18-2008, 07:08 AM

im not a member, but this said somethin about 8-series and sincei have 2 of em, and i can't get any of my games to play due to nvlddmkm.sys crashing error and i'm hoping someone can say "i had that problem, dl this or do this" lol. i've tried using just 1 stick of ram, and i tried both of htem by themselves didn't change anythin, i tried just 1 gfx card both by themselves then in sli and still same problem. i've tried that cut nvlddmkm.sys thing to drivers folder, and then expand it and that didn't do anythin. re-installed video drivers multiple times using driver cleaner in between installs in safemode, and re-installed vista once. im pretty much out of options and am about to go back to xp, which isn't that big a deal, but i bought a kick ass gaming rig for a reason and that's to play dx10 games.thx 2 anyone that can help

Even if I got two 8800GTs and some new quad I would not touch Vista... DX9 looks good enough.

Bundy

02-18-2008, 08:26 AM

im not a member, but this said somethin about 8-series and sincei have 2 of em, and i can't get any of my games to play due to nvlddmkm.sys crashing error and i'm hoping someone can say "i had that problem, dl this or do this" lol. i've tried using just 1 stick of ram, and i tried both of htem by themselves didn't change anythin, i tried just 1 gfx card both by themselves then in sli and still same problem. i've tried that cut nvlddmkm.sys thing to drivers folder, and then expand it and that didn't do anythin. re-installed video drivers multiple times using driver cleaner in between installs in safemode, and re-installed vista once. im pretty much out of options and am about to go back to xp, which isn't that big a deal, but i bought a kick ass gaming rig for a reason and that's to play dx10 games.thx 2 anyone that can help

I've never run mine in XP but my experience with Vista is that installing all the recommended hotfixes from MS plus running the latest Nvidia driver gets rid of 90% of those crashes. The remaining 10% were removed by adjusting the fan settings using RivaTuner. Not all 8800 have the same fan settings but mine simply alloweds it to get too hot. FYI I adjusted T operating from 82 to 60. I can't explain how to use RivaTuner - thats another chapter...

tkpenalty

02-18-2008, 12:40 PM

9800GX2 makes me worried, the card seems to have so many issues. And whats with the shader clock of 1.5Ghz for each core? Wtf?

wolf

02-18-2008, 12:53 PM

what should it be, like 1625? i'd like to think they have teethed out some of the issues from the 7950GX2

Tatty_One

02-18-2008, 01:37 PM

9800GX2 makes me worried, the card seems to have so many issues. And whats with the shader clock of 1.5Ghz for each core? Wtf?

Look at it this way.......better for overclocking :toast:

a_ump

02-18-2008, 06:41 PM

I've never run mine in XP but my experience with Vista is that installing all the recommended hotfixes from MS plus running the latest Nvidia driver gets rid of 90% of those crashes. The remaining 10% were removed by adjusting the fan settings using RivaTuner. Not all 8800 have the same fan settings but mine simply alloweds it to get too hot. FYI I adjusted T operating from 82 to 60. I can't explain how to use RivaTuner - thats another chapter...

well i dl'ed 169.32 from my manufacturer(xfx) and now i can play games with 1 gpu, but not in SLI i still crash, but i'll try dl'in the hotfixes

tkpenalty

02-19-2008, 05:02 AM

Look at it this way.......better for overclocking :toast:

Not really, the card from reports runs so hot that both covers for the card are too hot to touch. And, another problem, squeeze the card a little bit = gg no re. Reason why Nvidia leaves it at 1.5Ghz is because of the heat. Probably some company will sell the 9800GX2 with a preinstalled water block (hopefully), that would certainly be nice though.

DaMulta

02-19-2008, 05:04 AM

Psst the 9800 is going to be the shit with water blocks installed. The 4 GPUs that will be on the top of the OBR when it is released.

tkpenalty

02-19-2008, 06:57 AM

Psst the 9800 is going to be the shit with water blocks installed. The 4 GPUs that will be on the top of the OBR when it is released.
Agree. UNLESS, they flip the PCB around, with a special adapter block. 2x8800GTs would be a smarter option imho...

candle_86

02-19-2008, 10:23 AM

meh, the 9800GX2 can have its self, im content with what i got lol

Wile E

02-19-2008, 10:33 AM

I'm not interested in the GX2 either. Their first attempt was poorly implemented, which leaves me leery of this attempt. Not to mention, they're following the same routine they did for the 7950GX2. They're releasing this right before the next generation of video cards is due to hit. The last time, driver support suffered terribly.

wolf

02-19-2008, 11:43 AM

at least theyve had one try to teeth out problems...let us hope and pray.

tkpenalty

02-19-2008, 01:11 PM

at least theyve had one try to teeth out problems...let us hope and pray.

Lets be honest here, nvidia could have evaded this problem if they did what AMD did, and used a heatpipe cooler in place of AMD's cheaper copper blocks. It would equate to around the same cost as the current 9800GX2 design, and be super easy to water cool, and not have so many bloody cooling issues.

wolf

02-19-2008, 01:27 PM

cooling wasnt the issue i was worried about i was more thinking, drivers, scaling, and price.

but yeah the 7950GX2 wasn't that well cooled imo, i wonder what they've done with this one.

tkpenalty

02-20-2008, 05:12 AM

cooling wasnt the issue i was worried about i was more thinking, drivers, scaling, and price.

but yeah the 7950GX2 wasn't that well cooled imo, i wonder what they've done with this one.

Two cores using one cooler.... basically the cooler is a doubled up version of the 8800GT's stock cooler. Main problem that there are two major heat sources... Nvidia should make most of the cooler out of copper instead, or use more fins!

Yeah the price hurts it as well... They should drag the price of this card down ASAP on launch, and I heard, it will be running in SLi mode towards the OS, which means driver issues... Lets just hope its not as bad as the rumors/facts state.

DaMulta

02-20-2008, 05:12 AM

I can't play King Kong with my 8800GT:(

The game locks withen 5 secs of game play, and I can't even get off of the boat.

tkpenalty

02-20-2008, 07:45 AM

I can't play King Kong with my 8800GT:(

The game locks withen 5 secs of game play, and I can't even get off of the boat.

That sucks :banghead: Something nvidia needs to fix up!

candle_86

02-21-2008, 11:08 AM

its not really important what it can do because 98% of the world won't have one :laugh:

DaMulta

02-22-2008, 07:41 AM

candle_86

02-22-2008, 07:44 AM

do not flash an 8800GS with an 8800GT bios, I tried it just so someone would and found it took me from 12rops to 6

Wile E

02-22-2008, 10:10 AM

I finally have found a stable easy 24/7 clock for my Palit 8800GT Super 1GB. The thing I have found with ocing this card without changing the voltage is the time it takes to lock. It can take 30mins to over an hour of straight gaming before you would see a lock.

Stable OC

700 Core

1800 Shaders

900 Memory

+17% Core Overclock
+20% Shader Overclock

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/mybmn/

Now over clocking memory on a video card normally doesn't give you that much gain. In this case I would say the same, not really worth it.

VDO Tool will work with this overclock.

Below is two ss one stock video card, and the other one is overclocked.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080222/stock.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080222/stable.jpgDid you flash the Bios to 1.1V? Mine will do 730MHz stable that way. 1050 vram is also stable for me.

DaMulta

02-22-2008, 01:34 PM

No this was a total stock OC run. No voltage change of any kind just clocks.

tkpenalty

02-22-2008, 11:36 PM

I finally have found a stable easy 24/7 clock for my Palit 8800GT Super 1GB. The thing I have found with ocing this card without changing the voltage is the time it takes to lock. It can take 30mins to over an hour of straight gaming before you would see a lock.

Stable OC

700 Core

1800 Shaders

900 Memory

+17% Core Overclock
+20% Shader Overclock

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/mybmn/

Now over clocking memory on a video card normally doesn't give you that much gain. In this case I would say the same, not really worth it.

VDO Tool will work with this overclock.

Below is two ss one stock video card, and the other one is overclocked.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080222/stock.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080222/stable.jpg

Your card locking up is an indicator that the Mosfets are frying... I'd recommend getting some swiftech copper sinks + fan on top, if you want the card not to lock up.

I had the same problem until i installed the copper heatsink... on BOTH sides of the cards, the rear of the mosfets and the top side. Be careful that only the adhesive and not the metal of the heatsink contacts the rear side of the component.

tkpenalty

02-22-2008, 11:48 PM

Added new members to the list, please check if you had asked earlier on the front page.

EDIT: LOL....

Solaris just opened up a new 9 series clubhouse.... when this is one two... oh well. BUT. I'd recommend popping over to his club to ask for vmod instructions :), he is the G8x/G9x vmod guru anyway.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=53372 < Here.

Solaris17

02-22-2008, 11:50 PM

Ok boys here you post your name clock speeds and a pic of your card...followed by your highest 3dmark scores in list for like so....Also first post will be modified to include new members...tkpenely inspired....and still proud member of his clubhouse....im still the guru.

Programs:
Nibitor (http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=com_remository&func=fileinfo&filecatid=2492) (supports 9600GT)
Rivatuner (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163) (modded cfg file attached to this post)
Latest Drivers (http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us)
NvFlash 5.57 (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/819/NVFlash_5.57.html) (Latest supports 9600 eeprom)

Solaris17 (Leader)

9600GT

Orig clocks: 675/1700/900
Overclocked: 800/1900/1100

3DMark06
-9567

3DMark05
-14020

3DMark03
-33478

Current Members:
Solaris17

tkpenalty

02-22-2008, 11:52 PM

LOL...

I was about to change my title to the 8 ~ 9 series clubhouse...anyway, nice scores, but its apparent the CPU is holding you back

Solaris17

02-22-2008, 11:53 PM

lol i was gonna ask you if you wanted to conjoin...but i figured it would just be harder...ya my CPU is REALLY holding me back....im going to go core 2 soon but iv settled for the less expensive e1200 its all im going to be able to afford.......and i really need one.

tkpenalty

02-22-2008, 11:55 PM

ShadowFold

02-23-2008, 01:51 AM

E1200... I'd just keep accumulating funds for something like a E4600...

I would say save up more for a E2140 or something, I know for a fact those chips do 3.2ghz easy

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 02:02 AM

I would say save up more for a E2140 or something, I know for a fact those chips do 3.2ghz easy

E2140 is EOL. Not all of these Pentium Dual cores can do 3.2Ghz...

Solaris17

02-23-2008, 02:04 AM

well ill decide when the time comes....but lets leave the proc choices alone now...

Paulieg

02-23-2008, 02:05 AM

I'm in next wednesday!!

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 02:05 AM

Solaris, any plans of changing the stock cooling?

Solaris17

02-23-2008, 02:06 AM

ya im not sure what though...im deff gonna want ram coverage...and pretty close to all copper...not sure what i should go with.

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 03:43 AM

ya im not sure what though...im deff gonna want ram coverage...and pretty close to all copper...not sure what i should go with.

I'd get a thermalright V2, add a 80mm fan onto it, and a set of ramsinks to cover the MOSFETs... two phase vcore FTL.

Solaris17

02-23-2008, 03:48 AM

good call im gonna look into that.....o and i also found a vmod guide ..guide tells you what to look for etc...so im going to do some probing and see if i can vmod this thing...

o and btw MY GF is getting me a SECOJND 9600!!!!! so if anyone has a sli bridge i can have or buy MAD CHEAP let me know!!!

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 04:40 AM

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 05:47 AM

http://img.techpowerup.org/080223/untitled775.jpg

Okay, installing the MOSFET cooling seriously helps... before i was getting delta artifacts. Now nothing bad happens... woot! Well the thermal tape is pretty poorly applied atm.

Solaris17

02-23-2008, 06:40 AM

idc imagine how sweet that will be!? so can anyone help me out?

candle_86

02-23-2008, 06:41 AM

hey can i be a member?

tkpenalty

02-23-2008, 08:22 AM

hey can i be a member?

I thought i was missing someone from the list... yeah I'll add you. You're a member, at the moment anyway, but I forgot to add.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080223/IMG_0159.jpg

wolf

02-23-2008, 12:55 PM

update: running at 760/1836/2000 with new Zalman VF 1000 on :D not bad for a GT

Widjaja

02-23-2008, 01:15 PM

Finally uprading from my X1950pro to a Zalman cooled XFX 8800GT xxx edition with black PCB.

Can't wait to see how much better the performance of this card is going to be than my current one.

wolf

02-24-2008, 02:23 AM

i use my SLi bridge sorry!

and hey dont poo poo two phase vcore! its working for me :D and for Sol apparently.

Solaris17

02-24-2008, 02:37 AM

damn you wolf ill steal it from you

wolf

02-24-2008, 02:43 AM

lol, all the way from australia? i'd like to see that, its a sick SLi bridge too, the asus floppy bridge.

Solaris17

02-24-2008, 02:45 AM

sigh howms i gonna getz one?

wolf

02-24-2008, 02:50 AM

i have no idea, mine came with my SLi mobo....did you not get one with yours?

Solaris17

02-24-2008, 02:51 AM

no mine has 2 pci x16 slots but mine was the locked non sli model...i modded it to sli.

wolf

02-24-2008, 03:01 AM

oh harsh! i think at competitively priced hardware stores i can get an SLi bridge over the counter here, but im not sure about where u live.

Ebay will have them, and maybe like newegg etc...

Solaris17

02-24-2008, 03:09 AM

newegg doesn have any only a 3 way sli....and the pc shops in my area still sell P4's with 768mb ram......:(

wolf

02-24-2008, 03:16 AM

oh dear god, how many years behind us are they :P

divinebaboon

02-24-2008, 05:37 AM

Ill be in da club either on friday or the following monday hehe.
oh btw solaris here's a link to the sli bridges on ebay,cheapest buyitnow i saw was 20$. there's a few in auction,maybe you can win one of those cheap.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=sli+bridge&category0=

tkpenalty

02-24-2008, 07:36 AM

Someone killed the club :shadedshu

Widjaja

02-24-2008, 07:50 AM

Happened after my post. . . . .
Coincidence?

I think it's the fact most people with 8800GT's aren't having serious issues so they don't really need to come here.

SK-1

02-24-2008, 07:52 AM

Someone killed the club :shadedshu

Yes,and I think I saw the accused murderer,....a 9600GT:ohwell:

Wile E

02-24-2008, 09:55 AM

Haven't posted because I haven't gotten anywhere with my card in the past few weeks. Kinda at a standstill for the moment. I'll be busier once my 100K ohm trimpots get here tho. ;)

Tatty_One

02-24-2008, 10:02 AM

Haven't posted because I haven't gotten anywhere with my card in the past few weeks. Kinda at a standstill for the moment. I'll be busier once my 100K ohm trimpots get here tho. ;)

And hopefully I will have the reference documentation that we still wait for!

wolf

02-24-2008, 01:31 PM

dude talk to Solaris and roll the 9 series into this clubhouse, i mean seriously its still the G9x anyway, it doesn't warrant a new clubhouse.....

and wow, i just realise that ive owned 5 Geforce 8 series cards, and still have 3 of them....
more than any other single generation... usually i go for 1 or 2 per gen....
actually i have done 4 in the radeon 9xxx series, 2x9200's,a 9600XT E,a 9800Pro.
and 4 in the geforce 6 series, 3x 6600GT's and a 6800Ultra

strick94u

02-25-2008, 03:24 AM

g9x is what this should be since that is the new Technology but if you want to restrict it to one card only

wolf

02-25-2008, 03:46 AM

hey sol, maybe since the gef 9's are (as of yet) still G9x, you really should roll this club into the 8 series club, i mean internally, the cards are the same crap.

maybe call it the G8x + G9x clubhouse.

cos really so far the 9600 has brought nothing NEW to the table, all the regular troubleshooting will apply.

not to mention the ATi clubhouse is x1950 thru HD3000...

tkpenalty

02-26-2008, 08:42 AM

Yep its been fixed... now wheres solaris :confused: