3d mark results seem horrible

[accordpower99]

3DMark Score 4341 3DMarks
SM2.0 Score 1593
HDR/SM3.0 Score 1705
CPU Score 2482

the cpu test ran a 1 fps,
i have the ram timings of 4-4-4-12 at 533 mhz
16x 210 system crashes at 215 ht link 800 mhz 1.5 vcore

is this normal for my specs?

[Black Panther]

I'm not sure about the 1950 but the cpu score seems normal to me. On my pc in system specs the cpu test varies between 1 and 2 fps too I think. Maybe rarely going up to 3.

Google 3dmark06 x1950. You'll find lots of benchmarking links to help you.

I didn't find good news, because according to this http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2009329,00.asp that card should be getting 6K+ 3Dmarks...
OK they tried it on a better processor, but I don't think that's supposed to warrant an increase in 2K 3dmarks?

[Paulieg]

Yeah, you're only going to see 0-3 in the cpu test, and mostly 0-1 in the first test. Seems about right to me. You're overall score seems about right for your setup, maybe a little low...

[accordpower99]

I'm not sure about the 1950 but the cpu score seems normal to me. On my pc in system specs the cpu test varies between 1 and 2 fps too I think. Maybe rarely going up to 3.

Google 3dmark06 x1950. You'll find lots of benchmarking links to help you.

I didn't find good news, because according to this http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2009329,00.asp that card should be getting 6K+ 3Dmarks...
OK they tried it on a better processor, but I don't think that's supposed to warrant an increase in 2K 3dmarks?

ahh well i dont have the xtx, but i will try to research more.

will overclocking my video card make a difference, also my pci-e frequency is at 100 should i increse this?

[erocker]

Actually, my old s939 system @ 2.6ghz with the same card got a better score. Your memory is running at too low. It shoud be at least 800mhz! You need to increase the FSB as well as the HTT link.

[Black Panther]

will overclocking my video card make a difference, also my pci-e frequency is at 100 should i increse this?

Overclocking will make a difference, BUT first see if your card at stock is performing on par with other same cards at stock. Otherwise overclocking will be somewhat futile.

Afaik, you shouldn't increase the pci-e frequency. It should remain 100 or maximum 101.

[Urbklr]

My old 2.5GHz single core, and a x1950pro got 4200, so that score is low. Your cpu score seem's fine though, my old 3GHz athlon x2 got 2100, so that score is great. Your videocard scores are a bit fishy, do you have AA or AF forced in CCC??

[niko084]

Thats not a bad score for that setup.

[Darknova]

My 1950XT, 2.8GHz X2, got roughly 5 and a half thousand...

[accordpower99]

My old 2.5GHz single core, and a x1950pro got 4200, so that score is low. Your cpu score seem's fine though, my old 3GHz athlon x2 got 2100, so that score is great. Your videocard scores are a bit fishy, do you have AA or AF forced in CCC??

whats aa or af? any reason to why this scores low?

under all settings eveyrthing is set to performance

[Urbklr]

AA can kill your performance, it's the Anti-Aliasing tab in CCC. AF can also hurt performance, but not much, its Anisotropic Filtering in CCC. Set both to application managed.

[Urbklr]

And the score, i think, is low. Because i had a 2.8GHz Athlon x2 and a x1950pro, and got 4800.

[Dr. Spankenstein]

You're seems fine for what you've got.:toast:

[erocker]

Did you read my post? Your memory is too slow....

[accordpower99]

Did you read my post? Your memory is too slow....

uped it to 800 mhz and still no change in tests.

[DOM]

is the card stock ? what ccc are you using ? i get about in the 5800 with stock card, mem and cpu

[jpierce55]

That is about right, my 2.67 brisbane and the 1900 x-fire master card ran a little under 5000. My 3.2ghz 5000be scores ~2300's cpu.

[Bytor]

With my sig rig, and a X1950 pro I was scoring in the 5600-5700 range on one card, and 9859 for a high in crossfire.

[accordpower99]

I have the regular 256mb amd ati radeon x1950, but it should be doing better then what im getting though right?

[DOM]

run the test again and post a ss

[Dr. Spankenstein]

If you are running the card at stock speeds, you're right where you should be.

There is nothing wrong! Tweak it from here and you'll be fine.

[accordpower99]

run the test again and post a ss

will do when i get off work

[DOM]

will do when i get off work

cuz you sould get more with lil oc on the card using atitool with just stock volts i think i got 675 on the core might want to give it a try if you dont want to up the volts which well make it hotter

[accordpower99]

cuz you sould get more with lil oc on the card using atitool with just stock volts i think i got 675 on the core might want to give it a try if you dont want to up the volts which well make it hotter

should i use atitool over ccc?

[Urbklr]

You have a x1950pro right?? If so, youll probably get 620 core, and thats it.

[accordpower99]

http://review.zdnet.com/graphics-cards/ati-radeon-x1950-pro/4505-8902_16-32114240.html
yes i have the pro 256mb
check this out on the bench for 3dmark06 it says 4773

[DOM]

should i use atitool over ccc?

:o I thought it was a XT :p sorry

[accordpower99]

:o I thought it was a XT :p sorry

I WISH:rolleyes:

[accordpower99]

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13751677

i have 1000mhz ht link now seems like it made a lil difference. but still trying to diagnonsis why my games are running slower then my 3800+ cpu i had before this 6400.

[erocker]

Are all your drivers for chipset, vid. card, etc., all good and up to date? Did you re-install windows after upgrading? Got everything tweaked, and unessecary processes turned off? Did you install the dual-core optimizer? Just some ideas...

[PuMA]

turn off any backround stuff u might have running including the virus prog and run the test again.

[accordpower99]

no i finally found it man, my ht link speed at 1000mhz finally fixed it. I had it at 800 apparently, but eveythings great now! :rockout:

[imperialreign]

those 1950 scores looked a bit low to me, especially the SM3 scores.

Anyhow, here's a collection of scores we had running a while back, you can get a good idea of what kind of score you should be looking round-abouts for based on your CPU and 1950 GPU:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39338&highlight=7900+1950

and same here, across all GPUs and CPUs:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995


Are all your drivers for chipset, vid. card, etc., all good and up to date? Did you re-install windows after upgrading? Got everything tweaked, and unessecary processes turned off? Did you install the dual-core optimizer? Just some ideas...


+1 on that. TBH, the 1950s will show a ton of improvement the higher you can take BUS speeds, but don't neglect the small stuff.

Also, you can try other Catalyst drivers, too. There have been a couple of driver releases that killed performance for the X1950 series (Cat 7.7, anyone?! :wtf:). Most will agree that 7.6 was the best release for performance - 7.7 and 7.8 were horrible, slowing the cards down something stoopid. I haven't yet run 3m06 to see how Cat 8.1 compares to some of the last releases of last year, though.

[Darknova]

Have you tried increasing the PCI-E frequency to 105Mhz?

[accordpower99]

Have you tried increasing the PCI-E frequency to 105Mhz?

i was told not go go past 101

[accordpower99]

Are all your drivers for chipset, vid. card, etc., all good and up to date? Did you re-install windows after upgrading? Got everything tweaked, and unessecary processes turned off? Did you install the dual-core optimizer? Just some ideas...

eveyrthing is upto date 8.1 ccc, directx 10, didnt reinstall after upgrading, ive been tweaking the ht link speed made a huge difference in game performance, when i up my bus and lower multi i either cant boot or if i do crashes when doing the 3dmark test, having a hard time o/c the cpu, but if this number is suppose to be higher maybe i need to reinstall windows? i dont see any conflicts or anything under device manager.

[accordpower99]

those 1950 scores looked a bit low to me, especially the SM3 scores.

Anyhow, here's a collection of scores we had running a while back, you can get a good idea of what kind of score you should be looking round-abouts for based on your CPU and 1950 GPU:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39338&highlight=7900+1950

and same here, across all GPUs and CPUs:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25995




+1 on that. TBH, the 1950s will show a ton of improvement the higher you can take BUS speeds, but don't neglect the small stuff.

Also, you can try other Catalyst drivers, too. There have been a couple of driver releases that killed performance for the X1950 series (Cat 7.7, anyone?! :wtf:). Most will agree that 7.6 was the best release for performance - 7.7 and 7.8 were horrible, slowing the cards down something stoopid. I haven't yet run 3m06 to see how Cat 8.1 compares to some of the last releases of last year, though.

thanks alot for the info, do yuou know where i can pickup that 7.6 driver?

[Darknova]

i was told not go go past 101

I've been to 110Mhz with no adverse affects. If anything I get better performance at 105Mhz, but nothing after that.

[imperialreign]

I've been to 110Mhz with no adverse affects. If anything I get better performance at 105Mhz, but nothing after that.

From my testing of it, I also saw slightly better performance at 105, and every setting after that (highest I could go was 135) was the same.

Best performance, I found for my setup, was to leave it set to [AUTO], and let the BIOS adjust as need be.

[Urizen]

no i finally found it man, my ht link speed at 1000mhz finally fixed it. I had it at 800 apparently, but eveythings great now! :rockout:crap...that is BAD news (for me) apparently :( :(


this is the problem: I have a DUAL CORE cpu (brisbane, 4400+) meant to function with an HT of 1000MHZ

problem is my mainboard only supports up to 4X HT multiplier (that means 800MHZ maximum)


which means right now my setup is running with an HT speed of only 800MHz


so according to accordpower99's post my cpu & setup are not running @ their full potential



see the problem is so far I've read that HT link speed has almost no effect on performance simlply because even the PCI-Express bus (4gb/s) cannot match an HT speed of 1000MHZ (which is 8Gb/s), meaning that and HT of 1000Mhz (or even half that) is overkill for today's setups


that was good news, but now accordpower99's post contradicts EVERYTHING, EVERY single bench I've read on the net about the effect of HT link speed on performance :(

this means my mainboard sux, right ? :( it claims to support HT2000 CPUs (meaning CPUs meant for 1000MHz HT) but the maximum HT speed is only HT1600 (that's 800MHZ) and according to accordpower99's post this means my board does not FULLY support HT2000 CPUs since there IS a performance loss (unlike what other reviewers on the net claim) :mad:


edit> and I've a X1950GT card (AGP version)

[Urizen]

btw accordpower99> you changed the HT link speed from 800mhz to 1000mhz by changing the multiplier from 4x to 5x in the bios, right ?

are you absitively sure the HT link speed is the only thing you changed ? :(
did CPU clock, RAM clock, AGP clock & CPU multiplier remain the same ?

[accordpower99]

crap...that is BAD news (for me) apparently :( :(


well im not contridicating anyone, but i made posts up here about why my new 6400 x2 with faster ram was running slower graphics on games like madden, need 4 speed pro street etc. i couldnt figure it out, when i switched from 800 to 1000 mhz, it was like night and day seriously. i almost reformated the hdd i was so fed up tryin to figure it out. :banghead: but dont know about your situation im running at 200 fsb @ 1000mhz ht.
:D

HERES THE OTHER POST I WAS REFERING THIS PROBLEM IN.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=50775&highlight=pro+street

[accordpower99]

btw accordpower99> you changed the HT link speed from 800mhz to 1000mhz by changing the multiplier from 4x to 5x in the bios, right ?

are you absitively sure the HT link speed is the only thing you changed ? :(
did CPU clock, RAM clock, AGP clock & CPU multiplier remain the same ?

it only gives me intervals of 200 400 800 1000 and auto. nothing else, ram timings are as listed but its already been that way before i change the ht link. My 3dmark06 scores went up also after doing so.

[Urizen]

it only gives me intervals of 200 400 800 1000 and auto. nothing else, ram timings are as listed but its already been that way before i change the ht link. My 3dmark06 scores went up also after doing so.so you're sure only the HT speed changed, nothing else ? :confused:


everyone on the net, every review so far has said that HT speed has next to zero impact on performance (including 3D games) and they based this on the fact that today's setups can't even "come close to saturating the Hypertransport bus" or something like that (even with PCI-express 16X cards)


but now I read this thread, so I guess what happened to you must be a paranormal mystery or something :o



now I must absolutely find a way to force my HT speed to 1000mhz outside the bios
is there any way I can do it in windows? :confused: