XFX 8800GS cards in stock at Newegg

[AddSub]

XFX GeForce 8800GS 384MB 192-bit $179.99 + $5.84
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150275

XFX GeForce 8800GS 384MB 192-bit (OC version) $189.99 + $5.84
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150276


Hilarious prices, considering that a 320MB, 320bit 8800GTS can be had for $180 AR, a 256MB 3850 Radeon can be had for $150 @ TigerDirect and Microcenter, while 512MB models of 3850 can be had for cheap as well. Also, let’s not forget all those cheap 2900GT and 2900Pro cards floating around. These neutered 8800GS cards at $179.99 to $189.99 + s&h do not seem like a good deal.

I expected this, this nVidia we are dealing with after all.

[wolf]

at my local store the prices are as such, all ATi cards are Sapphire, all Nvidias are XFX.

HD3850 256 $265
HD3850 512 $285
HD3870 512 $329
HD3870X2 1024 $649

8800GS 580M* $249
8800GS 680M* $289
8800GT 256 $319
8800GT 512 $359
8800GTX 768 $649

all prices in AUD (Australian dollar)

so in terms of price the 8800GS goes well against the 3850, and the 8800GT 512 is only 30$ more than the 3870, which is less than 10% price difference

so no shenanigans from nvidia on my end Addsub...

* M is the core speed in MHZ, and all the cards with memory size listed are stock.

[divinebaboon]

These are only a placeholder until the 9600GT arrives. But the HD3850 512MB will pwn both i think.
Edit:never mind...the 8800GS pwned the HD3850 512MB in benchies here (http://en.expreview.com//?p=232&page=6)

[Andy_007]

Heres prices of local computer shop here in New Zealand, all including tax

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD3850 256 MB $275.63
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD3870 512 MB $410.63

MSI Radeon HD3850 256 MB $289.00
MSI Radeon HD3870 512 MB $389.00

HSI Radeon HD3650 512MB $212.63
HSI Radeon HD3650 512MB ICEQ Turbo $236.25
HSI Radeon HD3850 512MB $325.13
HSI Radeon HD3870 X2 1GB $749.00

Nvidia cards all XFX
8800GS 580M $313.88
8800GS 680M $325.13
8800GT 256 $354.38
8800GT 512 $403.88
8800GTX 768 $699.00

[ShadowFold]

Wow I really want to sell my 3850 right now :(

[KainXS]

Wow I really want to sell my 3850 right now :(

im keeping mine for hybrid crossfire

[dwax]

Dose anyone have one of these? I just bought one and wonder how it will compare to the XFX 7950GT.

[ShadowFold]

Dose anyone have one of these? I just bought one and wonder how it will compare to the XFX 7950GT.

Obviously its better, good buy :p

[dwax]

Got to looking, Wonder if this is compatable with my MB? I have an MSI RS480M it only has a PCIE 1.0a The card says PCIE 2.0 is it backwards compatible?

[divinebaboon]

Got to looking, Wonder if this is compatable with my MB? I have an MSI RS480M it only has a PCIE 1.0a The card says PCIE 2.0 is it backwards compatible?
x16?ya 2.0 is backward compatible to 1.0. I mean,there ain't that many Graphics cards out there that truely utilize the 2.0 interface. they only perform slightly better in 2.0 conditions compared to 1.0. Your mobo will support a 2.0 x16 card

[hat]

Thank you sir.

[dwax]

Thanks divinebaboon. Been looking on google on this and thats what I been reading. :)

[Solaris17]

anyone know how many rops and shaders their are?

[dwax]

Look here.

http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2007/12/28/spec.png


http://www.expreview.com/img/news/2007/12/28/spec.png

[divinebaboon]

Oh btw guys,acording to expreview(the chinese version i'm reading),these cards have fans that run at 100% all the time,so loud. Maybe you can use rivatuner or something on it.those guys at the site didn't try that.

[JrRacinFan]

I wonder how well these babies will clock.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

anyone know how many rops and shaders their are?

get one and mod it.

[dwax]

I have several Zalman coolers from the pictures it loos like they may work.

[Solaris17]

_FBi;654260']get one and mod it.

good call i think i will and at under 200 per card and easily twice the preformance of the 8600 i think i will 8800 users i will bestow my knowledge and findings to thee.....and i bet i can help you out with those fan probs as far as i know the 8800 unlike the 86 series can set clocks via bios and make it stick...so with any luck these will be the same ill download an 8800 bios to get myself familiar with them and pick this cad up...and get right on it for you guys...well time to study up on the PCB's hopefully they are similar or ill have to dig around for a schimatic..

[InfDamarvel]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127328

[Solaris17]

odd......hmmmmm...same core revision same core.....lack of rops and shaders....can anyone say bios or old fashioned lazer lock?....perhaps with my cuircuit wrighter pen a pencil mod or some hex editing we can make a memory cut 8800GT?

[JrRacinFan]

Hmmmm ....

I think I know where your going with this Solaris. Do you think it be possible to unlock the rest of the ROP's via RivaTuner (if not lasered) essentially making it a GT with 192-bit mem?

[Solaris17]

its a possibility....hex editing seems the prefered method these days....though i ran into a slight problem...if you look at the name G92-150 and the 8800GT G92-270.....im pretty sure thats the transistor count...which is bad news if so it would seem the card was manufactured without the rops and pipes altogether they arent simply locked however i wont know for sure until their is a new version of rivatuner or nibitor that supports these.

[JrRacinFan]

Very true, keep me updated cause if these can be unlocked I will definitely get one instead of pondering between an HD3850 or 9600GT like I was planning.

[divinebaboon]

I wonder how well these babies will clock.
well,the thing is,the more expensive version is already factory overclocked at 680,and according to this site,http://en.expreview.com//?p=232&page=7
But XFX 8800GS 384MB XXX is already factory overclocked, 105MHz higher than Palit version. So we don’t expect the card can be overclock a lot. Especially the memory chip, it is only a 1.4ns Qimonda, cheaper than the palit version.In our overclock test, XFX 8800GS 384MB XXX got stabled at 740/1620MHz. Compare to Palit version, XFX’s core is 20MHz higher but memory frequency is 220MHz lower.After the overclock(from 680 to 740), the XFX 8800GS384MB XXX’s 3DMark06 score is 12054, 7.9% more than default.

[Solaris17]

will do ill keep tabs on a new nibitor and a bios floating around.

[dwax]

Darn!! Prices went down! I pais $20 more for mine, should tell then I want that back.

XFX GeForce 8800GS 384MB 192-bit
$159.99
Free 3 Business Day Shipping


XFX GeForce 8800GS 384MB 192-bit (OC version)


$169.99
3 Business Day Shipping $5.84

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

well ...im wondering if i should get this instead of a 3870 .. its much cheaper ... and my good friend solaris is working on it ... jsut waiting for a model with better memory 1000 mhz or bust

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i feel noone is touching these cards witha long stick .. i want a768 model though with good memory.

[Solaris17]

_FBi;655890']well ...im wondering if i should get this instead of a 3870 .. its much cheaper ... and my good friend solaris is working on it ... jsut waiting for a model with better memory 1000 mhz or bust

i just posted a comment on expertveiw and ill be sending them an email im seeing if i can get a bios dump and have them mail it to me...ill then be sending the bios to the boys over at nibitor to scriptkitty up a beta release so i can access the card...the balls rolling.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

you got one already?

[strick94u]

Oh btw guys,acording to expreview(the chinese version i'm reading),these cards have fans that run at 100% all the time,so loud. Maybe you can use rivatuner or something on it.those guys at the site didn't try that.

Theres something comforting about a Pc thats sounds Like a central air conditioner :laugh:

[JrRacinFan]

Nah, he doesn't but I for one hope he does. Solaris is one of those people that got connection and the hook up.

I just hope if he finds that most aren't laserlocked and can be bios modded for more ROP's. Would essentially make them 8800GT's.

[dwax]

New review.8800GS compared to a 3850.
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/XFXGS_3850/index.php

[hat]

woot TPU GPU-Z in action

[candle_86]

i just ordered one also the 580M ill oc it and let ya know if a VF-700 can handle it

[QuarterMain]

hey guys, any word yet on the hex project for the gs? been waffling about getting one of these to replace the 7900gs i have.im dying to hear what the word is gonna be!! maybe just waiting on the 9600gs would be more prudent?:confused:





new build still on hold( for the most part) wife still hasnt made up my mind yet...she went and bought a new WS HD TV yesterday.... build budget cut in half....:cry:

[largon]

Anyone waiting for a ROP unlock is wasting time.
It will NOT happen. laser lockNo such thing as "laser lock" exists. (...) if you look at the name G92-150 and the 8800GT G92-270.....im pretty sure thats the transistor count...which is bad news if so it would seem the card was manufactured without the rops and pipes altogether they arent simply locked (...)The number has nothing to do with transistor count. It's just a model number. G92-150 (GS), G92-270 (GT) and G92-400 (GTS) GPU cores are all physically identical for what comes to outer diameters (332.5mm²) and amount of transistors (754 million).

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

hey guys, any word yet on the hex project for the gs? been waffling about getting one of these to replace the 7900gs i have.im dying to hear what the word is gonna be!! maybe just waiting on the 9600gs would be more prudent?:confused:





new build still on hold( for the most part) wife still hasnt made up my mind yet...she went and bought a new WS HD TV yesterday.... build budget cut in half....:cry:

a 8800 gs is going to be a little faster than a 9600gt

[KieranD]

I personaly find the GS a waste of money because i got my Palit/Xpervison 8800gt for £140 including shipping/postage and it is the one with the better cooling.

No excuses if you want a good card pay for it in the long run it will last longer, what not to do is buy top range because in a few months it becomes outdated and the price drops so you feel paying for a £300 card was a waste.

I usually wait for cards like the 8800gt or the old ati x800gto, one that are the best price for performance.

If you need a cheap card seriously just get the 9600 its going to be slightly faster and will be next genish.

[candle_86]

well i need a card now and its ordered, and i intend to play around with it.

[Solaris17]

Anyone waiting for a ROP unlock is wasting time.
It will NOT happen. No such thing as "laser lock" exists. The number has nothing to do with transistor count. It's just a model number. G92-150 (GS), G92-270 (GT) and G92-400 (GTS) GPU cores are all physically identical for what comes to outer diameters (332.5mm²) and amount of transistors (754 million).

um ....lazer lock does excist...like on the 6800 i do bealive and a couple other nvidia and older ATI cards....they cut the pipes using a lazer so the traces wouldnt connect totally blocking off a group of shaders...

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=921

just ONE example the 1800 GTO chips....and now youve heard it from someone other than..me use google b4 u talk smack...

The number has nothing to do with transistor count



ME if you look at the name G92-150 and the 8800GT G92-270.....im pretty sure thats the transistor count...


pretty sure is not the same as


"the numbers next to the core name is the transistor count in million(s)


now moving on from largon i will be giving you guys some udates but im without a bios and a version of nibitor to read it...but if someone gets one if you can send me the bios id be very happy.

[dwax]

Some say the 8800GS is faster then the 9600GT. And others say the 9600GT is faster. Would be nice to see these compared in a test to see. :)

[AddSub]

12 ROPs? What is this? 2004?

8800GS? You can keep kissing that frog, but it ain't turning into a prince, sweetheart.

[QuarterMain]

well i need a card now and its ordered, and i intend to play around with it.

candle when you recieve it, please post with your impressions on the card, im also in the market and want an owners opinion.

[calvary1980]

well im a sweet heart and I declare it a prince, ive seen the review on the 8800GS and 9600GT like everybody else im impressed with this card I think it's the new budget SLI. 2 of these volt modded make it very interesting. I would like to see 2x 8800GS against a GT.

PS, you can be my valentine if you purchase me one! lol

- Christine

[Solaris17]

and youll be my valentine christine if your offer still stand in our PM's ;)

[calvary1980]

I sold my computer 2 weeks ago as bare bone except for the power supply and monitor. Sorry :( I would of sold my video card to you but you said hold on to it and never wrote back.

- Christine

[Solaris17]

sigh i still love you...i guess.;)

[candle_86]

well im a sweet heart and I declare it a prince, ive seen the review on the 8800GS and 9600GT like everybody else im impressed with this card I think it's the new budget SLI. 2 of these volt modded make it very interesting. I would like to see 2x 8800GS against a GT.

PS, you can be my valentine if you purchase me one! lol

- Christine

oh dont tempt me Christine, ive seen your pic on messenger, i might just send you mine if your being honest.

[largon]

Solaris17,
First off:
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, especially when something you read clearly makes no sense what-so-ever.

"Laser locked GPUs" is a good example of the rumour-BS that roams free on the net. Here's a link (http://www.nvnews.net/articles/athlon_xp_unlocking/) which demonstrates what the term "laser cutting/locking" really (and exclusively) refers to. Note the laser cut bridges in the 2nd pic on the linked page.

This rumor concerning "laser cutting" of pipelines/whatnot in GPUs is utter BS:
nVIDIA NV40 (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=194&type=expert) GPU (GF6800) package had no bridges, nor did Ati R520 (http://img.techpowerup.org/080214/R520XT_core.jpg) (X1800XT/XL/GTO) - thus neither of them could be "laser locked". What comes to those 6800s/X1800s/whatever that didn't unlock... There's nothing on these chips that would hint the GPUs had been physically manipulated.

On a sidenote: Seriously, does someone actually think nV/ATi goes about and zaps their GPU core silicon with freaking lasers and hopes to hit some under 100nm wide traces?!?
:wtf:

Instead, they can just embed some dedicated memory cells on the die and link them to control the available resources. AMD did exactly this with their K8s CPUs.

[Solaris17]

i want pics

[largon]

What is this?
Did I step into somekind of a spawning pool?

[Solaris17]

not sure what your getting at....

[candle_86]

neither am i

[Solaris17]

laser lock

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t16555.html

another example....old school athlon XP and durons were laser locked thats why you could mod them to mobile with a pencil or circuit wrighter pen...also my NB was laser locked...i fixed that with a pencil

The old AMD Durons were laser locked, you could use a simple pencil to bridge the connections that the laser cut and turn it into an AMD Athlon, it could be possible with the GTs, but don't quote me on it. Be happy with what you have.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=25&t=49881


http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=91781

and im bored now if you dont bealive me you dont..but im pretty sure alot more ppl other than me...like the couple hundred or thousand on this site know that laser locking is a real existing thing


also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_7_Series

hit control F and search for laser lock...it will first come up under 7800....

[candle_86]

its not laser locked, its lazer locked :D

[Solaris17]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080214/laser lock.jpg

[candle_86]

dude i was trin to be funny :P

[Solaris17]

o well i had to know...because in all honesty i spell it both ways all the time

[largon]

laser lock

http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t16555.html

another example....old school athlon XP (...)As I said, S462 Athlons did have the bridges - but not a single GPU has such bridges. Pray tell, how can a GPU that has no bridges to cut, be "laser cut"? Absense of bridges pretty much proves a chip isn't "laser locked". And, it's a fact that nVIDIA G70 (GF7800) has no bridges. So... What makes it "laser locked"? One has to ask that guy ... uh, what's his name? Ah... He's called "the-random-guy-who-wrote-it-on-wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_7_Series)" - or maybe those people yammering about "laser locks" in those endless threads one can google just by using "laser locked" as key words. It's amazing what BS people believe to be true just because half of the internet says so.

btw,
Consensus proves nothing.
Facts are what matters.
(wikipedia ≠ facts - it's just the same BS that floats around on the net)

No amount of links to random users posting the same old line proves nothing. Originally Posted on wikipedia http://img.techpowerup.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazer)
Laser, the correct spelling for a source of monochromatic and coherent light

[Solaris17]

its a simple process really....you have some traces...you cut them with a short burst from a concentrated laser.....go ahead and look at your wiki link...they have laser beams that are much much MUCH smaller than 100nm

[largon]

So where are those bridges on R520 or NV40, eg.?
As long as there are no bridges nothing can be laser cut. That means AXP was about the last chip that was zapped.

[W1zzard]

on ati cards (all recent) laser cuts are on the bottom of the gpu substrate or under the die or internal fuses are used which can be blown by electricity and not be fused together

[candle_86]

my guess for the older ones is its Flipchip in case ya missed that fact, so the burn marks are most likly on the bottom of the core, where its soddered on. I have an blown 7300GT if someone can tell me how hot i need to heat it up to get the sodder to become liquid ill take a look for ya :P

[largon]

R600: no bridges on the backside (pics available)
R580: no bridges on the backside (pics available)
R520: no bridges on the backside (pics available)

What does "all recent" mean as it's known that R600, R580 and R520 all do not have bridges on the underside.

"Under(side of) the die" = impossible, flipchip cores are filled with die-package solder bumps.
"internal fuses" = possible
or
As I said earlier, embedded memory.

[W1zzard]

ati has die fuses and substrate fuses which are cut in different stages of the production process .. die fuses can be cut when there is just the die without any of the substrate around it.

you can see internal fuses as embedded WORM memory

[dwax]

Sweet! Sucker is fast! :) There is no way to adjust the fan on it. after market fans,Zalman VF900-CU will fit, put it on mine now I can adjust it. I couldn't get the drivers that came on the disk to install. it kept telling me they weren't for this card. I had to go to Nvidia to get drivers.Going to go play with it. :D

[AddSub]

MSI 8800GT 512MB, 112 SP for $184.99 AR :laugh:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127324

Get em while they are hot.

[divinebaboon]

the normal version of the Alpha Dog 8800GS by XFX(not oc'd) went down to 150$ with code videocard010 [Exp. 02/20] at newegg's. wow. the price on these puppies(no pun intended) really drop fast.
PS:u gotta subscribe to their newsletter for the code to work.

[Solaris17]

Sweet! Sucker is fast! :) There is no way to adjust the fan on it. after market fans,Zalman VF900-CU will fit, put it on mine now I can adjust it. I couldn't get the drivers that came on the disk to install. it kept telling me they weren't for this card. I had to go to Nvidia to get drivers.Going to go play with it. :D

dwax can u dump the bios for me?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

MSI 8800GT 512MB, 112 SP for $184.99 AR :laugh:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127324

Get em while they are hot.


and now they are cold ...

[echostrike]

@polaris- I will be getting the xfx ed. of the 8800gs sometime next week--if anyone hasn't sent you a bios dump by then I will be glad to do so. Just one kicker-- never done that before. I have been modding for a couple fo years now so it shouldnt take me that long to pick it up :rockout:

I've got an accelero s1, some shin etsu x23 and a 120mm fan with this cards name on it!!!

I think that its a good value @ 149 shipped (newegg) as I was looking for something to o/c and have some fun with.

--let me know.

Thanks

[Solaris17]

ya dude you should be able to do it with GPU-z....most deff send it to me..

[dwax]

dwax can u dump the bios for me?

Can I attach it to a post?

[echostrike]

sweet-- thanks for uploading it already! now lets get to finding a nice oc'd bios!!! haha :toast:


...and the unlocking of such items if possible.

[dwax]

Mine is not the OC version, I saw where they said the OC version was maxed out so I wanted to do it myself. :D

[Solaris17]

im on it

[Solaris17]

Ok so i just tried opening it in nibito obviously no support so i opened it in 8 series compatability and theirs no info but i just submitted the dump to nibitor so they can add support im also giving it to wizz so he can add it to gpu-z

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

where can we see the higher memory models of this?

[candle_86]

id make sure mvktech.net gets it, mvk is the guy that works on nibitor.

[candle_86]

_FBi;660053']where can we see the higher memory models of this?

well the 768 mb should be similar to a 1gb card, not enough power to use it, but id be happy if they made one with 8 instead of 6 memory chips lol

[Solaris17]

ya thats who i e mailed it to

[Solaris17]

got the newest version of nibitor ill get back to you guys it supports 8800GS but im busy with the BFG 9600 thread...got in contact with w1zz and some developers...so im kinda busy sry :(

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

dont worry d00d, ur busy, its for teh greater good.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i got the new version of nibitor i can check for hex hacks

from solar in a next thread

[divinebaboon]

hey guys..check these out
Bios file for XFX 8800GS (http://www.mvktech.net/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,fileinfo/filecatid,2471/parent,category/)

bios file for the XXX version (http://www.mvktech.net/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,26/func,fileinfo/filecatid,2472/parent,category/)

[wolf]

so i guess its turning out that the 8800GS isn't as bad as we may have initially thought.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

just dont get teh xfx version .. the evga seems to be the better of the two.

what is this im hearing of a clock lock in the driver?

[divinebaboon]

I just re-read the review at expreview...didn't notice this before...the fan connector is 2-pin..can't change the spped through rivatuner or any utility out there.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-150-275-03.jpg

the guys at expreview got the coreclock all the way up to 740..how did they get past the lock?
http://www.expreview.com/img/review/xfx8800gs/xfx88gsoc.jpg

http://en.expreview.com//?p=232&page=7

[wolf]

maybe jsut because the default is higher than nvidia reference the max clock limit has been upped respectively, thats my guess at the mo.

[divinebaboon]

maybe jsut because the default is higher than nvidia reference the max clock limit has been upped respectively, thats my guess at the mo.
default is right on the limit though,680. I'm gonna guess the driver they were using didn't lock the core. the recently released forceware was JUST for the 8800gs...those sneaky dastards made a special driver just to lock us out of the sweet core...

[hat]

I'm sure the lock can be unlocked with a BIOS flash. The 2-pin connector for the fan means 100% all the time I guess?

[wolf]

zalman fan mate controllers are cheap as and a very simplistic mechanical way to force the fan to run at the desired speed. ive got about 4 of them in my case, they work a treat.

[echostrike]

so has anyone tried oc'ing the xfx 8800gs-- any bios flashes?? Anyone?
I am tearing at the walls for more info--as mine does not arrive until wed. of this week.

Another Q:
this looks like it will fit the same cooler as the gt's-- so my accelero s1 will fit right?

thanks to whoever answers--and to solar!

[echostrike]

oh and ira-- are you saying that the evga is better, why?
possibly better (more oc' able) ram perhaps?

please inform.

...although i will be keeping my xfx (b/c 149 shipped is prolly the max i'd pay for this card!)
thanks-

[Deusxmachina]

These are only a placeholder until the 9600GT arrives. But the HD3850 512MB will pwn both i think.
Edit:never mind...the 8800GS pwned the HD3850 512MB in benchies here (http://en.expreview.com//?p=232&page=6)

In fairness, that's an overclocked 8800GS and a stock 3850.

The cards look pretty equal to me, for the most part, and having 512 memory can be a big deal sometimes for minimum framerates. If the 768 8800GS is a similar price, though, then it's probably not much of a contest.

One other thing is if someone is comparing the cards with no AA. ATI has such lousy AA performance, but if someone doesn't use it much, they may find a 3850 a good bit faster card.

It's all pretty close regardless. Close competition is great for consumers.

[divinebaboon]

oh and ira-- are you saying that the evga is better, why?
possibly better (more oc' able) ram perhaps?

please inform.

...although i will be keeping my xfx (b/c 149 shipped is prolly the max i'd pay for this card!)
thanks-

XFX:1.2ns Qimonda memory
Evga:1.0ns Samsung better overclocker
XFX:loud 2pin fan that is not adjustable via rivatuner,you gotta buy a zalman fan controller
Evga:super quiet fan,read the review here:http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GeForce_8800_GS/

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

oh and ira-- are you saying that the evga is better, why?
possibly better (more oc' able) ram perhaps?

please inform.

...although i will be keeping my xfx (b/c 149 shipped is prolly the max i'd pay for this card!)
thanks-

the evga uses 1ns = 1000hz ram xfx use 1.4ns = 700mhz ram

[Titus]

_FBi;664110']the evga uses 1ns = 1000mhz ram xfx use 1.4ns = 700mhz ram

That's why my XFX refused to be stable @ more than 1000 mhz memory :mad:
What a shame there's no more 8800 GS choice in France :banghead:
The signal for a 8800 GT 512 :rolleyes::D

[wolf]

GT > GS lol, dunno about the ram, but mines sensitive to anything over 1950....:( 2200 would have been nice to see, but eh, the card rocks anyway.

[isox]

I overclocked my XFX 8800GS i bought off newegg for 149.99
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/4ch3a/
the potential is amazing!

[hat]

I would just clock the cheap model up to the expensive model. The expensive model is already at the driver locked limit, what fun is that?

[Titus]

I would just clock the cheap model up to the expensive model. The expensive model is already at the driver locked limit, what fun is that?

What's this driver locked limit ???
I've seen this comment in several posts but no limit with mine, physical components ones except.

I've not use the driver CD supplyed with card. I've downloaded 169.32 ones on web.

[wolf]

yeah i aint never seen a driver lock on clock speeds before... considering the cards probably wont clock much past 750mhz anyway....

[Titus]

We have to keep in mind that 8800 GS are made around deficients G92 chips. It may explain the great o/c potential differents betwen same reference chips.

[wolf]

huh? can you rephrase that? do you mean that the deficient chips are better overclockers?

just curious ....

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

also dont forget that certain items on the core are deactiveated/absent/non-functional ... thereby giving out less heat therefore giving a better o/c

[Titus]

Sorry for my bad english expression :o

I wanted to say that the 8800 GS is built around G92 chips which didn't pass 8800 GT quality tests.
Rather put them in garbage, NVidia use them in slower cards.
The problem can be not stability @ 8800GT core frequency, shaders failures etc ...

That's why all the 8800 GS chips don't have the same O/C potential.
So it's not surprizing seeing 8800 GS cores @ 740MHz and others @ 680.
Idem for shader's frequencies ...
For mem values, may be some cards are built with defficients chips which run stable @ 8800GS stock species but not @ their mem standard species. For example, 1.2ns mem chips ( 800 Mhz standard chips ) running stable @ 750 MHz but not @ 800. A medium to make profitable chips production.

I hope it's better said like this ;)

[Titus]

_FBi;672927']also dont forget that certain items on the core are deactiveated/absent/non-functional ... thereby giving out less heat therefore giving a better o/c

I saw that shader's freqency doen't influence heat results ... true or false.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

I saw that shader's freqency doen't influence heat results ... true or false.


i havent been that attentive http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_forum/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif

[Titus]

_FBi;672938']i havent been that attentive http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/wheels_forum/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif

I've found this : " On pourra rajouter que l'augmentation de la fréquence des shaders n'influe en rien sur la température de votre matériel, nous n'en avons pas parlé dans cet article, mais nous avons pu le remarquer durant les tests.
The source (http://www.overclocking-masters.com/articlesocm.php?id=69&p=6)

Sorry for the french link :o

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

care to translate titus?

[Titus]

I've found this : " On pourra rajouter que l'augmentation de la fréquence des shaders n'influe en rien sur la température de votre matériel, nous n'en avons pas parlé dans cet article, mais nous avons pu le remarquer durant les tests.
The source (http://www.overclocking-masters.com/articlesocm.php?id=69&p=6)


That's mean : " we can add that shaders frequency increasing has not influence on your equipement temperature, we didn't said about this in this article, but we noticed this during tests "

;)

[wolf]

to be honest i dont think i noticed any temp increase on my 8600GT going from ~1300 shaders to 1836 :D , but the temp did go up when moving from 680 core to 742 core.

and likewise on my old XT edition 8600GT's from 600 core to 700 core, with no change in temp from ~1200 shader to 1836.

all my 8 series cards run 1836 shaders now....must be a sweet spot for me :D