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trt740
02-15-2008, 09:36 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150275.. I wasn't using my 8800 gts 512mb it sold for 331.98 shipped from what I'm told the 8800 gs is a good card , but does anyone know? I only found one review on the XFX xxx version. I only play at 1400x900 and the 8800 gts 512mb was overkill. Also anyone know does any cooler fit it besides the Arctic cooler and the Zerotherm

candle_86
02-16-2008, 04:37 AM
Zalman VF-700 and 900 should both work, a few 8800GT's use the VF-700 so it should cool the GS also.

dwax
02-16-2008, 04:47 AM
I put the Zalman VF900-CU on my XFX 8800GS because you can't adjust the fan control. You can on the VF900-CU. It is also a good card to me, I had a XFX 7950GS before and this one is faster then it.

trt740
02-16-2008, 05:10 AM
I put the Zalman VF900-CU on my XFX 8800GS because you can't adjust the fan control. You can on the VF900-CU. It is also a good card to me, I had a XFX 7950GS before and this one is faster then it.

you can adjust the fan in riva tuner you just have to add a line to the device list.

dwax
02-16-2008, 05:35 AM
you can adjust the fan in riva tuner you just have to add a line to the device list.

I asked Unwinder if he would add it to Rivatuner, but think he misunderstood me.reviatuner don't recognize the card, and I have no idea what line to add.

ChillyMyst
02-16-2008, 06:05 AM
think the 3850's are better bang for the buck by all the reviews i have seen.....

trt740
02-16-2008, 12:02 PM
think the 3850's are better bang for the buck by all the reviews i have seen.....

I cannot find any that say that

wolf
02-16-2008, 12:06 PM
where i am even the 680M variant of the 8800GS is cheaper than the 3850 256.... what would you do?

i know what i'd do.

wolf.

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 01:20 PM
where i am even the 680M variant of the 8800GS is cheaper than the 3850 256.... what would you do?

i know what i'd do.

wolf.

link for 640 m?

wolf
02-16-2008, 01:23 PM
theres a 640m now?

keep in mind when i said 680M the 680M refers to the core speed in mhz, just have to be sure were on the same page.

Live OR Die
02-16-2008, 01:43 PM
I asked Unwinder if he would add it to Rivatuner, but think he misunderstood me.reviatuner don't recognize the card, and I have no idea what line to add.

Rivatuner doesnt recognize the new 8800GTS but you could of just used Nvidia ntune like i do:D

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 01:54 PM
theres a 640m now?

keep in mind when i said 680M the 680M refers to the core speed in mhz, just have to be sure were on the same page.


oh , teh oc edition

W1zzard
02-16-2008, 01:57 PM
i'm testing the 8800 gs from evga right now, review soon ..

overall benchmark summary:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/Capture1386.gif

it's by far the best bang for the buck card on the market right now in my opinion, even better than near-future nvidia products

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 02:00 PM
i'm testing the 8800 gs from evga right now, review soon ..

overall benchmark summary:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/Capture1386.gif

it's by far the best bang for the buck card on the market right now in my opinion, even better than near-future nvidia products

r u 4 rl?

eclipses e'en 3850?

wolf
02-16-2008, 02:03 PM
well ive jsut been surfing and reading reviews on the 8800GS vs 3850, and my conclusion and summary would be this.

the two cards are almost completely even, trading blows on different games and even on the same game at different resolutions, but one fact did surface that makes all the difference.

as soon as you go for AA and AF the 8800 BLOWS the 3850 away completely, seriously, there wasn't really even one game where and when AA and AF were applied and the 8800GS lost, imo guys this is really clear cut.

this was one of the best sources of my figures, its in German or sommin, but you don't need to speak German to read bar graphs.
http://www.hardtecs4u.com/reviews/2008/asus_en8800gs_top/

i cannot speak for every gamer but nowadays i cant stomach a game without at least AA, which makes the 8800GS the clear winnar of the 2 cards. bam.

wolf.

trt740
02-16-2008, 02:08 PM
i'm testing the 8800 gs from evga right now, review soon ..

overall benchmark summary:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/Capture1386.gif

it's by far the best bang for the buck card on the market right now in my opinion, even better than near-future nvidia products

Yes and I did like the 3870 however it was 30.00+ more expensive than the 8800 gs. I payed 159.00 shipped

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 02:21 PM
why did AMD fire all the ATi guys? I feel thats why the drivers haven't improved the AA+AF performance over time.

cdawall
02-16-2008, 02:27 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150275.. I wasn't using my 8800 gts 512mb it sold for 331.98 shipped from what I'm told the 8800 gs is a good card , but does anyone know? I only found one review on the XFX xxx version. I only play at 1400x900 and the 8800 gts 512mb was overkill. Also anyone know does any cooler fit it besides the Arctic cooler and the Zerotherm

reference design for nv shows 600/1600 that card is clocked @ 580/1400 :wtf:

wolf
02-16-2008, 02:33 PM
tres bizarre

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 02:47 PM
reference design for nv shows 600/1600 that card is clocked @ 580/1400 :wtf:

heard xfx is using substandard memory.

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 02:48 PM
OC edition is 680/1600

BrooksyX
02-16-2008, 03:06 PM
Hmm Im thinking about getting one of the 8800gs myself in the next month or two. Also considering a 512mb 3850. Has any one seen anybenchmarks comparing the 512mb 3850 to the 8800gs? I have only seen them comparing the 256mb 3850 which of course is going to suffer at higher resolutions. Plus I am interested on how high you can clock these 8800gs on stock voltages with a decent cooler, are they just crippled 8800gt chips that can be unlocked with a simple bios flash? If so it would be a great deal.

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 03:12 PM
Hmm Im thinking about getting one of the 8800gs myself in the next month or two. Also considering a 512mb 3850. Has any one seen anybenchmarks comparing the 512mb 3850 to the 8800gs? I have only seen them comparing the 256mb 3850 which of course is going to suffer at higher resolutions. Plus I am interested on how high you can clock these 8800gs on stock voltages with a decent cooler, are they just crippled 8800gt chips that can be unlocked with a simple bios flash? If so it would be a great deal.

read this

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52066

BrooksyX
02-16-2008, 04:42 PM
_FBi;661233']read this

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52066

hmm looks like their pretty much even, yet the 8800gs is slightly cheaper. Im wondering though how far you can push the 8800gs with just software mods. Would it be possible to unlock the stream processors, basically making it an 8800gt with less memory bandwith or is the 8800gs a different chip?

edit: do you guys think the price will drop on these when the 9600gt hits, also how will they stack up against the 9600gt. For now my modded 8600 is fine but in the summer I might try to get something new.

Solaris17
02-16-2008, 04:48 PM
thats what im looking to find out

bcracer220
02-16-2008, 05:23 PM
just buy this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329&nm_mc=AFC-Bensbargains&cm_mmc=AFC-Bensbargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

much much better deal, and upgraded cooler =)

trt740
02-16-2008, 10:12 PM
just buy this instead http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329&nm_mc=AFC-Bensbargains&cm_mmc=AFC-Bensbargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA

much much better deal, and upgraded cooler =)

If I wanted to spend 50.00 more dollars I would but I don't want to.

trt740
02-16-2008, 10:14 PM
reference design for nv shows 600/1600 that card is clocked @ 580/1400 :wtf:

yes but they are the exact same card as the xxx edition and will overclock up to 600/1600. I can save 15.00 and overclock it myself.

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-16-2008, 10:36 PM
ur not overclocking it, ur reclocking it :|

trt740
02-16-2008, 10:45 PM
_FBi;661790']ur not overclocking it, ur reclocking it :|

Well . The whole idea of buying this card and selling my old 8800 gts 512m was to make some bucks and get a med range performing video card. I think the 8800 gs for 159.00 shipped fits that bill. I did looks at some 3870 and 8800 gt cards but didn't want to spend another 50.00 . I intended thats money for a bigger faster hardrive or some more ram. We will have to see how well this cards does if it is junk I will return it but it appears to beat a 7900 gtx which is still going for 150.00 on ebay and is DX10 so we will see. If you guys see a good deal before monday let me know. I can refuse it for a full refund and buy a different card. Heck i'm using a 8500 gt 256 card now and it plays most of the games I own fairly well.

trt740
02-16-2008, 10:49 PM
reference design for nv shows 600/1600 that card is clocked @ 580/1400 :wtf:


CDwall your information is wrong here are the reference specs from nvida http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce8.html
Core Clock (MHz) Shader Clock (MHz) Memory Clock (MHz) Memory Amount Memory Interface Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
GeForce
8800 Ultra 612 1500 1080 768MB 384-bit 103.7 39.2
GeForce
8800 GTX 575 1350 900 768MB 384-bit 86.4 36.8
GeForce
8800 GTS 500 1200 800 640MB or
320MB 320-bit 64 24
GeForce
8800 GTS 512MB3 650 1625 970 512MB 256-bit 64 41.6
GeForce
8800 GT 600 1500 900 512MB 256-bit 57.6 33.6
GeForce
8800 GS 550 1375 800 384MB 192-bit 38.4 26.4
GeForce 8600 GTS 675 1450 1000 256MB 128-bit 32 10.8
GeForce
8600 GT 540 1190 700 256MB 128-bit 22.4 8.64
GeForce
8500 GT 450 900 400 256MB 128-bit 12.8 3.6
GeForce
8400 GS 450 900 400 256MB 64-bit 6.4 3.6

this seem to indicate my cards core is runing 30 mhz faster than reference clock and the ram 100 mhz slower than the reference ram clock so I'm not sure your right, also as I said before both the XXX version and mine use the same ram and the XXXX version is clocked at 800mhz so I'm sure this card will match it exceeding the recommended specs.

cdawall
02-16-2008, 10:52 PM
Core Clock (MHz) Shader Clock (MHz) Memory Clock (MHz) Memory Amount Memory Interface Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
GeForce
8800 Ultra 612 1500 1080 768MB 384-bit 103.7 39.2
GeForce
8800 GTX 575 1350 900 768MB 384-bit 86.4 36.8
GeForce
8800 GTS 500 1200 800 640MB or
320MB 320-bit 64 24
GeForce
8800 GTS 512MB3 650 1625 970 512MB 256-bit 64 41.6
GeForce
8800 GT 600 1500 900 512MB 256-bit 57.6 33.6
GeForce
8800 GS 550 1375 800 384MB 192-bit 38.4 26.4
GeForce 8600 GTS 675 1450 1000 256MB 128-bit 32 10.8
GeForce
8600 GT 540 1190 700 256MB 128-bit 22.4 8.64
GeForce
8500 GT 450 900 400 256MB 128-bit 12.8 3.6
GeForce
8400 GS 450 900 400 256MB 64-bit 6.4 3.6

this seem to indicate my cards core is runing 30 mhz faster than reference clock and the ram 100 mhz slower than the reference ram clock so I'm not sure your right, also as I said before both the XXX version and mine use the same ram and the XXXX version is clocked at 800mhz so I'm sure this card will match it exceeding the recommended specs.

i was wrong lol thats what i get for taking numbers off someone else's post

trt740
02-16-2008, 10:53 PM
i was wrong lol thats what i get for taking numbers off someone else's post

Model
Brand XFX
Model PVT88SFDF4
Interface
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 8800GS
Core clock 580MHz
Stream Processors 96
Memory
Memory Clock 1400MHz
Memory Size 384MB
Memory Interface 192-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
VIVO No
General
Tuner None
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Supported Yes
Cooler With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes
Packaging
Package Contents PVT88SFDF4
Driver Disk
User Manual
HDTV Cable
S-Video Cable
Power Cable
2 x DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter

cdawall
02-16-2008, 11:14 PM
good luck to you hopefully with a vmod you will be able to hit 1ghz+ on the core

trt740
02-17-2008, 12:57 AM
im starting to think again on this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329&nm_mc=AFC-Bensbargains&cm_mmc=AFC-Bensbargains-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA. I just am not sure I need the horse power but with that cooler for only 75.00 more up front and 45.00 more after the rebate. Thats seem like a okay deal I will have to think hard on this one . that cooler looks alot like a 7900 gtx cooler.


http://img.techpowerup.org/080216/14-127-329-05.jpg

wolf
02-17-2008, 01:05 AM
mmm looks nice.

trt740
02-17-2008, 01:06 AM
mmm looks nice.

Yes but the memory seems to have no heatsinks and the mosfits are bare aswell. Thats not good.

wolf
02-17-2008, 01:09 AM
yeah, it'd suck to go out and buy a card with a sick after market cooler and then the voltage reg's blow up, or your mem overheats into pc crashes.....

and you don't want to have to buy little mosfet heatsinks for all of those if it SHOULD have them.

ChillyMyst
02-17-2008, 02:06 AM
in my exp the ram and fets dont get that hot unless u push the card beyond whats posable with software mods, so this shouldnt be an issue, specly seeing as their is airflow over the ram and fets from that nice big fan.

why couldnt bfg give me a cooler like that :(

divinebaboon
02-17-2008, 03:16 AM
Our forum's uber Solaris just bought a BFG 9600GT from his local best buy...that means the 9600GTis REALLY close to its official release.(At the MSRP price of 169.99 i hope) you might want to wait for that.

Titus
02-17-2008, 08:54 AM
I've just bought a XFX 8800 GS ( normal, not XXX version ).
Goog performances but so noisy !! :eek:

I've overclocked it with Riva tuner v 2.06 at 680 ( core )/ 1000 ( memory ) / 1700 ( shader ).
That's all fun for the price :roll:

wolf
02-17-2008, 08:57 AM
so hows it go mate? benchies?

Titus
02-17-2008, 09:44 AM
I've made some benches on usual games ( BF2, Far Cry, CoD2 ... ) and on 3D Mark 06.

I've just done 10814 on 3DM06 @ 700/1000/1700 and not more than 51°C in stress ( 40°C in idle, without more fan in PC box ).
That's not so bad for a " discount GPU " :D

Just a question : is it possible editing bios to keep a 256 or 384 bus as the others 8800 ?

wolf
02-17-2008, 09:47 AM
i doubt very much that it is at all possible, and nibitor doesnt have an option for that, maybe if you hex edited the bios.

Titus
02-17-2008, 09:57 AM
Thanks for your reply. I had doubt. That's an honnest card for gaming.
May be the 9X00 series will make me crazy purchase :rolleyes:

wolf
02-17-2008, 09:59 AM
still m8, thats an impressive score for a "failed" g92 core, and even with that nice o/c if it dies, hello replacement!

Titus
02-17-2008, 10:06 AM
still m8, thats an impressive score for a "failed" g92 core, and even with that nice o/c if it dies, hello replacement!

I Hope i'll keep this card a long time. May be i'll replace my 7900GS OC with it and put a better card in place. The E6750 merit a better one no ?
The 9X00 series allow lower prices for 8800 series ( 8800 GT512 @ 189€ in France ).

wolf
02-17-2008, 11:12 AM
i think the e6750 is fine for it, maybe oc it somewhere between 3 and 3.5ghz to really stretch the 8800's legs.

Titus
02-17-2008, 11:46 AM
i think the e6750 is fine for it, maybe oc it somewhere between 3 and 3.5ghz to really stretch the 8800's legs.

I'll test OC on my CPU when i'll change my power supply ( this config is 4 days old :D ).
I'm waitting for a new power supply and 2 more Go of PC6400 memory ( G-Skill cas 4 ). It will free my 8800 capacites.

New benchies this morning :
- @ 700/1000/1700 : 10814 3DM06, 16851 3DM05.
- @ 720/1000/1800 : 10997 3DM06, 16917 3DM05.

The T° is done to 42°C :confused: ... 40°C in idle ... :wtf:

I've seen the topics on 9600 GT ... not so perf as i hope :ohwell: my 8800 GS is not dead :D

wolf
02-17-2008, 12:07 PM
yeah see at this point upping the gpu and shader frequencies by 20 and 100mhz respectively have bought you less than 200 3dmarks, but if you overclock that core 2 duo from 2.66 to 3.4ish, the score should be around 11,500 (at a guess)

and dude, its so easy for me to tell that you're French, i am too, but the giveaway is saying "Go of ram" instead of Gb (gigabyte) or simply gigs (gigabytes)

rock on frenchies !!!

pepsi71ocean
02-17-2008, 12:22 PM
If you can get your hands on a 8800GT KO they clock well. The only thing is you need a Processor running over 3GHz to make the card run. Ive clocked my from 675 to over 750 on stock cooling (just raised the fan). You need a CPU running over 3GHz to get better 3dmarks, mine jumped alot when i clocked my cpu from 2.4 to 3GHz. The biggest thing is the bottlenecking for the card.

Titus
02-17-2008, 01:15 PM
yeah see at this point upping the gpu and shader frequencies by 20 and 100mhz respectively have bought you less than 200 3dmarks, but if you overclock that core 2 duo from 2.66 to 3.4ish, the score should be around 11,500 (at a guess)

Yes and the card is not totaly stable on games at these frequencies. I'll try to push them one bye one and find what's wrong ( core or shader ).
When that will stable, i'll push my CPU and see the real potential of the 8800 GS:cool:
A Zalman VF900 Cu is a way of evolution too.
...and dude, its so easy for me to tell that you're French, i am too, but the giveaway is saying "Go of ram" instead of Gb (gigabyte) or simply gigs (gigabytes)

rock on frenchies !!!
Thanks :D
So good website for performance addicts ;)

[I.R.A]_FBi
02-17-2008, 01:24 PM
So good website for performance addicts ;)

Hope you come here and stay here .. i came here because of the x1950 thread, and i stayed, this site rox

Titus
02-17-2008, 02:13 PM
_FBi;662520']Hope you come here and stay here .. i came here because of the x1950 thread, and i stayed, this site rox

+10000 :D:D:D
Pushing the limits may be our religion :laugh:

pepsi71ocean
02-17-2008, 02:16 PM
+10000 :D:D:D
Pushing the limits may be our religion :laugh:

rotfl, i can attest to that.

I try every day.