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Titus
04-07-2008, 08:23 PM
Only 3 points better ( 12225 ) on 3dm06 with these drivers.
But not stable on long stress progs. :cry:
EDIT : 12255 points ( so 30 more :) ) just with a little v-mod on bios ( 1.15v ).
newtekie1
04-09-2008, 04:38 PM
My eVGA 8800GS will be here Friday.:rockout: Replacing my 7600GTs.
Titus
04-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Yeah, nice upgrade :rockout:
[I.R.A]_FBi
04-09-2008, 06:56 PM
good pgrade for 7900 gs?
Titus
04-09-2008, 07:00 PM
_FBi;741368']good pgrade for 7900 gs?
Yeah, that will be a nice upgrade from a 7900GS too.
I've one on my first rig ... max powa now :cool::D
caldran
04-18-2008, 02:02 PM
hey how to overclock evga 8800gs card i heard there is a driver lock.....
Kenshai
04-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Try overclocking with Rivatuner. There is a guidehere. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=44216) I know it is for the 8500/8600 but the tutorial for Riva is good, Give that a shot. I'd recommend getting Ati Tool as well I use it mainly for checking temps as well as checking to see if there will be any artifacting at a certain clock. Just go by the Rivatuner guide in that thread and you should be fine.
I could swear there was a thread very similar to that for the 8800 series but I can't find it.
newtekie1
04-18-2008, 04:12 PM
Got 11176 with my 8800GS with just some basic overclocking. I'll have to mod the BIOS to add some more voltage, but I think the E6600 is causing the low score. I think I might try to bump it up to see if the score goes up with it.
Titus
04-18-2008, 06:16 PM
Got 11176 with my 8800GS with just some basic overclocking. I'll have to mod the BIOS to add some more voltage, but I think the E6600 is causing the low score. I think I might try to bump it up to see if the score goes up with it.
Hi :)
I tried several voltages in my 8800 GS bios and best results were done with only 1.15V ( 1.1 stock ).
With 1.2 or 1.3V, no better OC, just higher temps :cry:
Satummoo
04-29-2008, 07:14 AM
Hey, i've been trying to find out how do I flash my card to the XFX alpha dog edition (overclocked) when I use a non overclocked version?
where do I get the bios file and what do I flash with?
Titus
05-08-2008, 04:56 PM
Hi:)
You can download the XFX 8800 GS xXx ( 680MHz core clock )bios here (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/6162/XFX.8800GS.384.080105.bin).
Then, flash yours with NVFlash after after saving original bios ( or download it in TPU VGA bios collection (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/5537/XFX.8800GS.384.080104.bin)).
iJatt
05-31-2008, 06:33 PM
my 8800 gs will be here on Monday, i was wondering what kind of fps i can expect in css. I play with 1280 by 1024 res all settings will be set to high and AA will be at 4x or 8x and filtering mode will be 8x. Rest will be high. I have a amd x2 4000+ , 1.5 gigs of ram. When i am playing in dust 2 and i am in a firefight with lets say like 4 other ppl...will my fps drop below 60? like they do right now with my shitty 8600 gt?
Also can i oc my xfx 8800 gs to the XXX's clock and mem speeds right out of the box? or shall i use the safe ocing techniques and go by little by little?
Kenshai
05-31-2008, 07:19 PM
You should easily see 60+ fps at almost all time in css, and you can defintiely oc it out of the box to xxx levels if you can't then you have the worst luck. With my rig i never drop below 100 fps on de_dust2 with 20 people on the screen. You shouldn't have any issues holding 60 with only 4
iJatt
05-31-2008, 07:23 PM
You should easily see 60+ fps at almost all time in css, and you can defintiely oc it out of the box to xxx levels if you can't then you have the worst luck. With my rig i never drop below 100 fps on de_dust2 with 20 people on the screen. You shouldn't have any issues holding 60 with only 4
sweet dude. i highly believe you because i have a 8600 gt and i get 105 fps on dust 2 but it drops to friggin 40-50 for like the duration of the fight, and i play with all high except mat_specular is 0 and mat_bummaps is 0
even though i can take the core and mem straight to xxx speeds, i will still use the safe ocing techniques given the fact each card is different.
Fahim
05-31-2008, 08:42 PM
I got my Palit GeForce 8800 GS 384MB card. It doesn't even have temp. sensor, and the fan works @ 100% all the time. Crap card, but i am gonna try some overclock and see where can I go.
newtekie1
05-31-2008, 10:23 PM
I got my Palit GeForce 8800 GS 384MB card. It doesn't even have temp. sensor, and the fan works @ 100% all the time. Crap card, but i am gonna try some overclock and see where can I go.
That is a Palit issue, not the cards issue, my 8800GS has a temp sensor and fan control out of the box. You might have to flash to a new BIOS, but from what I hear the cooler Palit uses is crap anyway, with a fan that can only work at 100% regardless of BIOS.
eidairaman1
05-31-2008, 10:39 PM
Yall Forget the 8800GS came about because they couldnt get a great enough Yield of 8800GTS or GT, so the card is somewhat handicapped by temperature/clock speed and perhaps some pipelines/shaders.
Fahim
05-31-2008, 11:10 PM
That is a Palit issue, not the cards issue, my 8800GS has a temp sensor and fan control out of the box. You might have to flash to a new BIOS, but from what I hear the cooler Palit uses is crap anyway, with a fan that can only work at 100% regardless of BIOS.
Yeah, i know, 8800 GS is a very good medium range card, the fan on the palit got a 2-pin connector and the connector on the board is 4-pin. But there is also a 2-pin connector on the board, i am wondering what that could be. I check the BIOS, the fan speed is set at 100% for 2D, even if i change it, it probably won't work because there is no 4th PWM wire on the fan.
But then again, my HD 3870 fan got a 2-pin connector with a 2-pin connector on board, how come that one uses dynamic speed on fan depending on temp???
Any advice or idea would be appreciated. Thanks.
candle_86
06-19-2008, 12:16 PM
it has to do with voltage regulation of the fan power header its self if its just a 2pin header with thermal control
RyoBerlin
06-19-2008, 12:27 PM
Hi there!
i OC my eVGA 8800GS to Core/Shader 680/1700 and Ram 995.
Proofed it with ATI-Tools Artefact Scan.
If i want to go higher mybe Ram ober 1000Mhz or Core 690 then the Artefakt scan will find errors.
I think i cant go higher with my 8800GS, what think the other 8800GS users here? ;)
candle_86
06-19-2008, 12:38 PM
well before i sold it my xfx
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/zschc/
best clocks i got from her
Fahim
06-19-2008, 01:36 PM
Just got my ASUS EN8800GS TOP today. It is clocked at 600MHz core and 1800MHz memory. Don't know abt the shader though. The really good thing is that the fan on it is really silent regardless of 100% speed, i was annoyed with my Palit GeForce 8800GS and then I went mad with the XFX 8800GS noise level. This is really silent, but it doesn't have temp. sensor or fan speed regulator either. GPU-Z or rivatuner can't detect anything.
candle_86
06-19-2008, 01:40 PM
get nibitor and see if you can edit the hex code to add it, the temp diode is built into the core it would be a bios config thats not showing it
ChromeDome
06-19-2008, 07:38 PM
Hi there!
i OC my eVGA 8800GS to Core/Shader 680/1700 and Ram 995.
Proofed it with ATI-Tools Artefact Scan.
If i want to go higher mybe Ram ober 1000Mhz or Core 690 then the Artefakt scan will find errors.
I think i cant go higher with my 8800GS, what think the other 8800GS users here? ;)
the linked article gets into the overclocking an evga 8800GS issue. i have mine at 680/1700/950. i won't push beyond, as i got artifacts at 700mhz core but at the time i also had my shader clock linked to core....so idk. anyway part of the article (found right here at TPU) says this, but with some suggestions on how to go further to follow, i believe:
To find the maximum overclock of our card we used a combination of Rivatuner, ATITool and our benchmarking suite. Overclocking the memory was extremely easy, basically you set the clock to 1000 MHz which should always work since 1.0 ns chips are installed and then work your way up from there. When overclocking the core, the first thing you should enable is independent shader clock adjustments, then find the maximum stable shader clock. When overclocking the GPU core frequency, everything is fine until you reach about 680 MHz. From then on the overclocks revert instantly because NVIDIA has put a lock into their driver which limits the core clock to a maximum of 680 MHz. There is a grey zone of around 10 MHz which you can reach when playing around with 680 - 690 MHz clocks.
link to article page:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GeForce_8800_GS/24.html
mine is fine overclocked to 680/1700/950 i find
EDIT: ok just took mine to 680/1733 /1000. i'm gonna run some stability tests brb
Just got my ASUS EN8800GS TOP today. It is clocked at 600MHz core and 1800MHz memory. Don't know abt the shader though. The really good thing is that the fan on it is really silent regardless of 100% speed, i was annoyed with my Palit GeForce 8800GS and then I went mad with the XFX 8800GS noise level. This is really silent, but it doesn't have temp. sensor or fan speed regulator either. GPU-Z or rivatuner can't detect anything.
i have found the evga model to be really nice. fan speed control, temp sensor, feels quality.
RyoBerlin
06-19-2008, 09:00 PM
mine is fine overclocked to 680/1700/950 i find
Then my 680/1700/995 is okey :)
i can go higher but then i get erros as i sayed.. i just wondering that techpowerup can go so much higher... but if i see this
http://i3.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GeForce_8800_GS/images/gpuz_oc2.gif
Hehe Memory 1000 or higher?.. where? ;) i think GPU 700 and memory 800 will be no problem... but i hink its better to let my card @680 and memory 995 ;)
ChromeDome
06-19-2008, 09:47 PM
Then my 680/1700/995 is okey :)
i can go higher but then i get erros as i sayed.. i just wondering that techpowerup can go so much higher... but if i see this
http://i3.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GeForce_8800_GS/images/gpuz_oc2.gif
Hehe Memory 1000 or higher?.. where? ;) i think GPU 700 and memory 800 will be no problem... but i hink its better to let my card @680 and memory 995 ;)
yeah i noticed that, too. with some effort they managed to push the core 15 or 20 mhz higher but lowered everything else to default. i like mine the way it is, myself. final results:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/8710/13998860bo3.jpg
:D
at stock i ran the simple "Video Card Stability Test" (the one with the spinning globes) and got an average of 357 fps. after i overclocked to 680/1700/950 i got 458fps. now, taking the memory and shader clock to 1000 / 1733, respectively, i get an avg 479fps. and sometimes the thing goes to over 500fps while testing. like to 514....not so shabby
my temps are ok for stock cooling, i think. right now in a 80F room rivatuner shows idle temps at 58c core and 50c ambient at 50% fan speed. when the room is cooler i idle around 55c core, give or take. highest temps i get is while playing Far Cry with high dynamic range lighting enabled. goes to around a high of 77c in a warmish room @ 100% fan speed, not much lower in a cooler room. acceptable considering the overclock and not even Crysis or Stalker take the temps that high.
oh, and Fahim i too had the XFX model for around a week. i was going to keep it, but regretted the purchase (trying to save $10 and S&H). i have a quiet computer and often go to sleep / relax listening to low volume music. lol forget about it with that card. mine is a bedroom computer and i spend a lot of hours here working, studying, and just using my computer in general. and it was just LOUD. not only did it annoy, it made the card seem "cheap" somehow. unrefined. loudest fan in my HOUSE, much less my case. lucky for me the card crapped out on me after 2 weeks (stock clocks) and i got to send it back and ordered the evga
i mean i know its considered a "budget" card but they need not punish us for being frugal :(
the evga is nice and peaceful =]
ChromeDome
06-20-2008, 02:02 AM
also...i know the "Vista Rating" system is kind of general.....but when the card arrived stock it rated my "Gaming Graphics" at 5.7. after my initial overclock to 680/1700/950 it went to 5.8. with the new overclock at 680/1733/1000 its gone to the maximum 5.9
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5889/96918336kf8.jpg
success!! :rockout:
ChromeDome
06-20-2008, 12:29 PM
hey i'm up early this morning and doing some downloading :D
got me a nice 3DMark Pro that i was able to run once b4 it f-d up my computer during restart. good thing these Vista things have "Start Up Repair" and stuff. i had to restore my poor little guy to an earlier time :(
a time when 3DMark and all things related weren't on my computer, apparently. 'cause now its gone
which is fine idc
i should have backed up the install package / key gen thing just in case, 'tho
anyhow at least i'm legal now. oh and my score:
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/509/testek5.jpg
yup, compared to other AMD and equivalent intel machines (midrange 6 series processors) with the same card thats a satisfying score for me. all default settings. pretty close to stock 8800GT scores running on similar set ups. i can live with that
no more testing 'tho. i'm not risking my HD and a ton of BSOD heartache :(
ChromeDome
06-21-2008, 11:27 PM
just got it up to 685/1740/1050
i'ma gonna stop now
stock is 550/1375/800 so i think thats a good oc
EDIT: at 690/1733/1000 now
mem clock was a bit high maybe....saw some minor but weird performance things happening. dropped the shader clock back down to 1733, too
good enough
ChromeDome
06-22-2008, 02:43 AM
ok this is final lol!
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6686/ookt5.jpg
ran a few test things....pretty sure its stable. card doesn't seem to like a core clock nearer 700 and the mem....after some adverse behavior in some tests....is best left there, i think
hopefully it remains stable
these 175.70 drivers are another story, however. i might just go back to the 169.XX things that seemed to do the trick well
RyoBerlin
06-22-2008, 11:12 AM
Sorry for the X Post but in the review treath is noone else *G*
all our older crysis scores were conducted at the wrong resolution and can not be compared. only gtx 280 and newer has correct crysis scores
Quote was from: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=63329&page=2
Can onybody here Bench with the Timedemo and standard settings to high?
i will post my Benches with Crysis Timedemo and World in Conflict Bench here soon.
------------ I begin -------------
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 (Conroe) @1.975Mhz
MoBo: ECS G31T-M
RAM: 2x 1GB G.Skill CL 5-5-5-15, 667Mhz @ 731Mhz
OS: Vista SP1 32bit, DX10
Card:eVGA GF 8800 GS (G92)
GPU: 680Mhz
Memory: 985Mhz
Shader: 1700Mhz
Driver: 175.16
Crysis Timedemo, Settings High
1280x1024 (windowed mode)
2xAA 8xAF
min: 2,33fps
max: 26,93fps
avg: 18,78fps
1360x768 (windowed mode, as fullscren HD-Ready)
2xAA 8xAF
min: 8,46fps
max: 31,47fps
avg: 22,02fps
1360x768 (windowed mode, as fullscren HD-Ready)
0xAA 4xAF
min: 11,9fps
max: 41,2fps
avg: 26,88fps
World in Conflict build in Bench, Settings High
1280x1024 (windowed mode)
2xAA 4xAF
min: 10fps
max: 59fps
avg: 21fps
1360x768 (windowed mode, as fullscren HD-Ready)
2xAA 4xAF
min: 8fps
max: 52fps
avg: 22fps
1360x768 (windowed mode, as fullscren HD-Ready)
0xAA 2xAF
min: 10fps
max: 62fps
avg: 27fps
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Btw. i dont even get a 5.9 with higher GPU Settings then you ;)
i think my CPU slowes the card down.
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