GeForce 4 Ti4600 V 6200

[xubidoo]

check my sig for specs of this system

id like to know if this score is about right?
in 3dmark 2001 this system scores the following...

MSI Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb AGP @4x - 3D Mark Score - 7900
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ASUS Geforce N6200 128mb AGP @4x - 3D Mark Score - 5500

surely that cant be right ? a card thats 2 generations older and using slower sdr ram beating a much newer card that uses DDR ?
ive tried 2 sets of drivers on both cards.

169.21 & 93.71 with similar scores on each driver


more annoying really that an older card appears to be faster lol ,this machine is only used for web browsing ,email and the odd old game.
i was hoping that the 6200 would have given me a bit of a boost rather than lower performance heh.
i understand that my cpu is probably holding 1 or both cards back but to have such a difference between the 2 ?

[ktr]

Well you are comparing a godly fast card for its time verses a donkey card for any time ;)...

[ShadowFold]

My Ti4600 from BFG is still doing good and it beats my 6200 from BFG so its not just you, the system has 700mb of ram and a 2.4ghz Pent4

[cdawall]

the ti4600 use DDR ram and has a much higher bandwidth than the 6200 since its 128bit vs 64bit

edit-woops! i did some more research turns out the 6200 is 128bit as well

[xubidoo]

the ti4600 use DDR ram and has a much higher bandwidth than the 6200 since its 128bit vs 64bit


According to GPU-Z my GeForce 4 uses SDR ram

[ShadowFold]

According to GPU-Z my GeForce 4 uses SDR ram

Mine uses DDR

[cdawall]

According to GPU-Z my GeForce 4 uses SDR ram

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/178/NVIDIA_Ti_4600.html

300mhz core 650mhz DDR

[xubidoo]

ahh ok ,must be GPU-Z not detecting it correctly then :(

Shame its slower tho ,but ill stick with the 6200 as its fanless whereas the GF4 makes quite a noise.

just for comparison i also have a GF4 MX4000 AGP which scores around 3500.

[cdawall]

that and the 6200 should oc well past what that ti4600 is capable of try an oc then flash and you should end up with a better card

[JrRacinFan]

Just for clarification, all the ti4 series uses DDR. Show me a screeny.

Also, that 6200, try unlocking the extra 4 pipelines in Rivatuner and see how well you do.

[strick94u]

that ti was a premo card in its day, and that 6200 takes up your only agp slot

[Nitro-Max]

MSI Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb AGP @4x - 3D Mark Score - 7900 this card was a true gamers card i had a ti4200 64mb and my fx5600 ultra 256mb couldnt beat it.!

[department76]

i had a ti4200 64mb and my fx5600 ultra 256mb couldnt beat it.!

that's inaccurate.

[wolf]

nah man my mates fx5700 vanilla was about on par with another mates ti4400 slightly o/c

TI series is basically equivalent of todays GT series, im glad its still holding up so well!

[candle_86]

the ti4600 use DDR ram and has a much higher bandwidth than the 6200 since its 128bit vs 64bit

edit-woops! i did some more research turns out the 6200 is 128bit as well

only the PCIe NV43A4 is 128bit, the NV44a only supports 64bit and is the AGP card.

[cdawall]

only the PCIe NV43A4 is 128bit, the NV44a only supports 64bit and is the AGP card.

then w1z has some mislabeled stuff in the gpu database

6200-NV44A-AGP-128MB DDR-300 MHz-250 MHz / 128 Bit-4 / 4 / 3-DX9.0C, PS2.0, VS2.0
6200-NV44A-AGP-256MB DDR-300 MHz-250 MHz / 128 Bit-4 / 4 / 3-DX9.0C, PS2.0, VS2.0
6200-NV43-AGP-128MB DDR-300 MHz-275 MHz / 128 Bit-4 / 4 / 3-DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
6200-NV43-PCI-E-128MB DDR-300 MHz-275 MHz / 128 Bit-4 / 4 / 3-DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0


http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/

MSI Geforce 4 Ti4600 128mb AGP @4x - 3D Mark Score - 7900 this card was a true gamers card i had a ti4200 64mb and my fx5600 ultra 256mb couldnt beat it.!

its doubtful my ti4200 64mb does 360/660 on stock air that scored 12K or so. hell i have a radeon 7500 DDR that scores 7771 (http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=82773&thumb=false) in 3dmark01 give me a little bit and it will beat your ti4400 :roll:

[xubidoo]

this is how my 6200 appears in GPU-Z


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9862/6200qp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[JrRacinFan]

Darn, it's just too bad that isn't an NV43 based card. Means no pipe unlock for you. :ohwell:

[candle_86]

it had one your memory wont go much higher

[wolf]

a 6200 is weak as piss unless highly oc, and still then weak as.

at least a Ti4600 was wicked back in the day, which means its respectable now, not to mention its two whole generations behind the 6200

[candle_86]

the 6200 will hold its ground agianst a ti card simply because it can play newer games the TI cant

[hat]

old man's 4600TI at stock played Oblivion with the Oldblivion mod

[wolf]

wether or not the 6200 can play newer games it would still suck at them, test them both on BF1942 and NFSU etc and see how they go

[Darknova]

that's inaccurate.

Not at all. That's very accurate. the FX line was dire.

I had an old 6200, and that beat the fx5700ultra by miles, and what he says IS true, the Ti were an awesome series of card, I had one (I still believe it was a 4800 and not a 4600 but meh), so I believe he's telling the truth.

[wolf]

yeah i have an old Ti4400 and that rocks, as i remember the only difference between the 4200-4800 was clock speeds, memory size (some had only 64mb) and some were agp 8x which was brand spanking new at the time.

[candle_86]

there was a Ti-4800 it was based on the NV28 core and was 300/650 same as the Ti-4600 just with AGP8x

[Darknova]

there was a Ti-4800 it was based on the NV28 core and was 300/650 same as the Ti-4600 just with AGP8x

Ah, so it wasn't a 4800 I had then....I sold it well over a year ago, so I couldn't remember which one it was. It would have been a 4600 then.

[candle_86]

if it was AGP 8x it was Ti-4800 if not it was Ti-4600

[wolf]

there was also a agp8x version of the 4200, but that was decently weaker than the 4600.

4200 = 250/500 (some agp8x)
4400 = 275/550
4600 = 300/600
4800 = 300/600 agp8x

[Darknova]

if it was AGP 8x it was Ti-4800 if not it was Ti-4600

It was 4x, because it was bought a long with a brand new motherboard. It was the first one we had that supported AGP 4x :P

[cdawall]

there was also a agp8x version of the 4200, but that was decently weaker than the 4600.

4200 = 250/500 (some agp8x)
4400 = 275/550
4600 = 300/600
4800 = 300/600 agp8x

haha whats you point my ti4200 64mb 4x clocks to 360/660 and beats out all of the series even with oc'ing