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Tatty_One
07-27-2006, 09:03 AM
hey questionsss

1. i have a r423 chip on my x800gto
2.its a power color
3. i have an arctic cooler rev 5 on it
4...how come i cant go over
425- core and 501 memory without it locking up in benchmark :(

can anyone help me :\ i even tried bios flashing worked but still didnt unlock pipes >:0

If I remember rightly you asked that question in another tread and I asked you if it was the 128MB card but you didnt respond....is it?

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 09:13 AM
G'day,

I have an X800 PRO R420 with 256 MB with the following values

Config_Die_Fuses 0xFFF7FFFF
Config_Substrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_Fuses 0x1021

Can this card be unlocked to 16 pipes?

Thanks,
Chris

joinmeindeath417
07-27-2006, 09:22 AM
its a Powercolor X800gto 256mb (256-bit) DDR3

dolf
07-27-2006, 09:31 AM
G'day,

I have an X800 PRO R420 with 256 MB with the following values

Config_Die_Fuses 0xFFF7FFFF
Config_Substrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_Fuses 0x1021

Can this card be unlocked to 16 pipes?

Thanks,
Chris

Yes it can be unlocked. Is it with VIVO? If the answer on my question is yes - just use my atomated bootable flash utility (which contains all necessary things): http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=670063

Good luck :)

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 09:38 AM
Thank you Dolf!

Sadly, not a VIVO - just a regular x800.

I have followed the instructions in the other thread and will try out my modded bios =)

Wish me luck.

Regards and many thanks,
Chris

joinmeindeath417
07-27-2006, 09:40 AM
so i still dont know why i can only over clock so little -_- anyone know? i mean i bought the arctic cooling rev 5 in hopes that i could get as much out of it but it crashes most times i go over 450 core and 502 memory

F430
07-27-2006, 12:12 PM
what I need to do for 12 16 pipelines???
I also here hello

stevorob
07-27-2006, 12:52 PM
so i still dont know why i can only over clock so little -_- anyone know? i mean i bought the arctic cooling rev 5 in hopes that i could get as much out of it but it crashes most times i go over 450 core and 502 memory

Your core doesn't allow for high overclocks. Your card isnt unlockable.

I also here hello

Post a screenshot of your fuse data from ATI Tool. Hold shift and click settings to see your fuses.

Tatty_One
07-27-2006, 02:03 PM
Your core doesn't allow for high overclocks. Your card isnt unlockable.



Post a screenshot of your fuse data from ATI Tool. Hold shift and click settings to see your fuses.

I will close my thread where you asked me to post fuse data yesterday, card should have arrived at home today so I will post data tonite on this thread.....cheers

Tatty_One
07-27-2006, 02:05 PM
its a Powercolor X800gto 256mb (256-bit) DDR3

I would have thought he should at least get some outta the GDDR3 memory if not much from the core???

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 02:13 PM
G'day,

I followed the instructions outlined and have patched my bios, my Config_Rom_Fuses now read 0x1020 but ATITools reports 12 pipelines.

Which one is correct?

Thanks for all your help guys!

dolf
07-27-2006, 03:01 PM
G'day,

I followed the instructions outlined and have patched my bios, my Config_Rom_Fuses now read 0x1020 but ATITools reports 12 pipelines.

Which one is correct?

Thanks for all your help guys!

Most probably both are correct. You unlock your card on the BIOS level :toast: but I am not sure that on hardware level it is possible :( . That's why I always insist to post the fuse values in order to avoid the endless questions ;) .

stevorob
07-27-2006, 03:57 PM
I would have thought he should at least get some outta the GDDR3 memory if not much from the core???

Yeah, 502 is low memory... I get at least 535 stable on mine with my R430 Core... Ive gotten max 441/552 stable with my case opened and a box fan blowing in... about 45C full load that way.

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 09:42 PM
Most probably both are correct. You unlock your card on the BIOS level :toast: but I am not sure that on hardware level it is possible :( . That's why I always insist to post the fuse values in order to avoid the endless questions ;) .


Sorry Dolf!

Config_Die_Fuses 0xFFF7FFFF
Config_Substrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
The Config_Rom_Fuses 0x1020
GB_Pioe_Select 0x6E48

The card is a 256 MB Asus X800 Pro (http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=2&l2=9&l3=15&model=281&modelmenu=1)

Thank you,
Chris

dolf
07-27-2006, 10:09 PM
Sorry Dolf!

Config_Die_Fuses 0xFFF7FFFF
Config_Substrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
The Config_Rom_Fuses 0x1020
GB_Pioe_Select 0x6E48

The card is a 256 MB Asus X800 Pro (http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=2&l2=9&l3=15&model=281&modelmenu=1)

Thank you,
Chris

Chris, with these fuses you should have 16 pipes. My advise is to uninstall ATITool and to don't save any profiles and other files when you are prompt to do that. Install it again. It is better to reinstall the drivers but not absolutely necessary. Finaly you can check the number of the pipes in RivaTuner also :) .

Hope that it will help you.

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 10:55 PM
Chris, with these fuses you should have 16 pipes. My advise is to uninstall ATITool and to don't save any profiles and other files when you are prompt to do that. Install it again. It is better to reinstall the drivers but not absolutely necessary. Finaly you can check the number of the pipes in RivaTuner also :) .

Hope that it will help you.

Thanks again Dolf - I think I'm out of luck here - It's still showing up as 12 active. Is it possible that they're working but not showing up in Rivatuner or ATITools?

Do you think I should try your bootable bios update disks? I believe the card I have is a VIVO.

Thanks again,
Chris

dolf
07-27-2006, 11:25 PM
Thanks again Dolf - I think I'm out of luck here - It's still showing up as 12 active. Is it possible that they're working but not showing up in Rivatuner or ATITools?

Do you think I should try your bootable bios update disks? I believe the card I have is a VIVO.

Thanks again,
Chris

I am recommending you to flash XT or XT PE BIOS. But first read the instruction file (about PCB PN). You can check the performance before and after (3DMark03/05) and if you have difference (10-15%) it means 16 pipes, if not still 12pipes.) You are not the first who reports for problem after flashing of X800PRO BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Probably the problem comes from the little difference in the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES FFF7FFFF (your card) and the CONFIG_DIE_FUSES EFF7FFFF on most of the X800PRO VIVO's or X800XT(PE) AGP cards. It is sign for different configuration of the bridges on the back of the core. Flash your card with X800XT VIVO AGP or X800XT PE (after you are sure that it can handle the speeds).
Again the download link: http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=670063

Let me know whether I am right ;) .

Success

Chris_Z
07-27-2006, 11:46 PM
Hahah Dolf - I love you!

You're a genius sir - working perfectly now at 500/500 with 16pipes. I will run some tests and see if i can push it to the 520/560 model (seems unlikely but the core tested fine to 544 so perhaps.

Again, many thanks,

Regards,
Chris

F430
07-28-2006, 07:44 AM
config_die_fuses 0xeff36fff
config_substrate_fuses 0xfffff61d
config_rom_fuses 0x862
gb_pipe_select 0x25650
:respect:

dolf
07-28-2006, 07:53 AM
It says that you stick with 8 pipes :( . But your R420 (R423) should have 2 laser cuts. There is a minimal chance to change config_die_fuses connecting the right bridge but you can try.

F430
07-28-2006, 08:01 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

F430
07-29-2006, 02:46 PM
what is this laser cuts and On oc my memory hardly on 400 Somebody succeeded
more with 423,how? and core on 500

F430
07-29-2006, 07:51 PM
on Bios i put on turbo to the video card

Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter ATI Radeon X800 GT PCI-E (R423)
GPU Code Name R423 (PCI Express x16 1002 / 554B, Rev 00)
GPU Clock 503 MHz (original: 475 MHz, overclock: 6%)
Memory Clock 400 MHz (original: 350 MHz, overclock: 14%)

You have MSN?

hyperdrive
07-30-2006, 11:39 AM
My card is a Sapphire X800GT with 128 MB memory. In the attachment is the fuses data. There is currently 8 active pipelines. Is this card any good modding material =] ?

I got pretty impressive core clocks by the way, currently at 622MHz, quite a rise i think.. :cool:

I consider (looking fuses) that your core is R423 and 12 pipes are possible :) . You should remove the cooler and to inspect (to look for laser cuts). If there any - connect the RIGHT one (top-right side of the core) but meanwhile post your original BIOS to mod it for 12 pipes. After that you should flash using modified flashrom with the modded BIOS. After you have to see the number of pipes in ATITool again.



now the lasercut is connected. here's the bios attached:

VmOdS
07-30-2006, 07:01 PM
what can i do with this baby? Its a GeCube X800(Desc: RX800-C3 S1G) 128DDR1(Hynix mem) 12 pipes...

Can i enable the 16 pipes?:confused:

rabit 2.1 says:

Active pipelines: 12, GB_TILE_CONFIG = 0x0001001D
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x00002724
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFFFF, 0 died pipeline(s)
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9E, 4 disabled pipeline(s)
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x00000A61
CONFIG_REGISTER_FUSES = 0x00000000


Can i just modify my bios and flash?:eek:

lilpsboi
07-30-2006, 09:17 PM
I have a ati x800xt pcie is there a way I can flash it to an x800xt pe

dolf
07-30-2006, 09:34 PM
Just use XT PE BIOS if you are absolutely sure that your card is satble at XT PE speeds :) .

F430
07-30-2006, 10:28 PM
What I need to do on simple words I have x800 gt 128mb ddr1 of sapphire I want pipelines 12
help me please i don't have attempt in this :respect: :respect: :respect:

dolf
07-31-2006, 06:57 AM
What I need to do on simple words I have x800 gt 128mb ddr1 of sapphire I want pipelines 12
help me please i don't have attempt in this :respect: :respect: :respect:

You want 12 pipes but you can't have them - sorry :mad: .

silentsteps
07-31-2006, 02:44 PM
Hi, I'd like to know if my x800GTO's pipelines can be unlocked. Here is the image:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060731/screenshot267.jpg

256mb 256-bit GDDR3 12 pipelines right now

Oh, and how can I find out what chip the GTO is using?

dolf
07-31-2006, 03:06 PM
You can unlock to 16 pipes. Use that automated flash utility to do it as easy as possible but first read the Flash Instruction file. If something is not clear for you let me know ;) .

Download link: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

silentsteps
07-31-2006, 03:08 PM
Thank you for the quick response. Will I need to worry about chip model conflicting with the flash utility? And do I need to do anything with the original BIOS of the video card?

And this will create a considerable greater amount of heat, right? I'm curious, because I have just read the instructions, and there are two options: one to flash to 16 pipelines and one to just overclock, I believe. I don't know which will create more heat. :(

One more thing, The info that I have for my video card on RaBiT differs from the one in the instructions, slightly, just the numbers. Is that okay? Thanks in advance.

And... One more thing, sorry for causing much trouble. What if it doesn't work, how can i revert back to the original settings?

Volvobrute
07-31-2006, 03:43 PM
You can unlock to 16 pipes. Use that automated flash utility to do it as easy as possible but first read the Flash Instruction file. If something is not clear for you let me know ;) .

Download link: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

I have a sapphire X800GTO 256 MB AGP with r480 core (Visual inspection of chip) and 2.0 ns mem.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x261

After reading tons of posts, I'm pretty shure this card can be unlocked to 16 pipes.
But I have trouble finding a BIOS for this card with 2ns memory. I've only found one for X850 PRO.
Can you Dolf help me with a BIOS?

stevorob
07-31-2006, 05:44 PM
I have a sapphire X800GTO 256 MB AGP with r480 core (Visual inspection of chip) and 2.0 ns mem.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x261

After reading tons of posts, I'm pretty shure this card can be unlocked to 16 pipes.
But I have trouble finding a BIOS for this card with 2ns memory. I've only found one for X850 PRO.
Can you Dolf help me with a BIOS?

You're card can be unlocked. Use this BIOS.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=119795&postcount=2061

I have a connect3d X800 GTO with a R423 core can I flash it?

If not can I do the hardmod thing and how?

Thanks alot

Unfortunately, you're card cannot be unlocked through the BIOS, but I'm not sure if you can connect the laser cut if there even is one.

Volvobrute
07-31-2006, 07:29 PM
You're card can be unlocked. Use this BIOS.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=119795&postcount=2061


Are you sure that the memorytimings fits to 2ns memory?

stevorob
07-31-2006, 08:05 PM
Are you sure that the memorytimings fits to 2ns memory?

Nope, you'll have to ask dolf, as that is his BIOS.

dolf
07-31-2006, 11:06 PM
I have a sapphire X800GTO 256 MB AGP with r480 core (Visual inspection of chip) and 2.0 ns mem.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x261

After reading tons of posts, I'm pretty shure this card can be unlocked to 16 pipes.
But I have trouble finding a BIOS for this card with 2ns memory. I've only found one for X850 PRO.
Can you Dolf help me with a BIOS?

Probably that is your card: http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=733218 (see the flash instruction file and proceed if your card is the same). If not I need your BIOS (you also have to save it) and pictures ;) .

silentsteps
08-01-2006, 12:28 AM
This is a screenshot of the section of the BIOS, is this okay to use with the provided BIOS? I would just like to confirm it.

http://img.techpowerup.org/060731/untitled.png

And how can I revert back to what I had default, if everything fails? I've read that I'd get a black screen if it doesn't work. I don't know what to do after that...

yohonny101
08-01-2006, 03:31 AM
HIS X800GT PCI-e x16

stevorob
08-01-2006, 04:22 AM
HIS X800GT PCI-e x16

Sorry, but you can't unlock. :(

Volvobrute
08-01-2006, 09:38 AM
Probably that is your card: http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=733218 (see the flash instruction file and proceed if your card is the same). If not I need your BIOS (you also have to save it) and pictures ;) .

Thank you Dolf, this did the job. Have now unlocked to 16 pipes; Wonderful :-)

yohonny101
08-01-2006, 02:27 PM
oh, that sucks, but thanks for your help.

MaximusOG
08-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Can I ?

MaximusOG
08-04-2006, 01:42 PM
can I ? http://img.techpowerup.org/060804/x800092.jpg

stevorob
08-04-2006, 01:46 PM
AGP or PCI-E?

You can unlock.

MaximusOG
08-04-2006, 02:10 PM
it's agp! can I?

stevorob
08-04-2006, 02:50 PM
Use this flash utility.

http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

MaximusOG
08-04-2006, 04:09 PM
thanks a lot! I've flashed it on 16p
can I flash it on 420/525? or it could be a problem with it?

dolf
08-04-2006, 04:26 PM
thanks a lot! I've flashed it on 16p
can I flash it on 420/525? or it could be a problem with it?

Test it and remember that your card must be stable for min. 10 minutes (ATITool) at 430/540MHz ;) . If it can run at these speeds flash it with the OC BIOS.

MaximusOG
08-04-2006, 05:46 PM
Mmm... at 430/540 on 8 min in 3d view begin to appear some articacts
how do you think should I flash it ? or it's Dangerously???

dolf
08-04-2006, 07:40 PM
Mmm... at 430/540 on 8 min in 3d view begin to appear some articacts
how do you think should I flash it ? or it's Dangerously???

Flash it and test again but it is close to it's max.

isamu-ad
08-04-2006, 08:18 PM
Hi all j m a new owner of a x800VE from LDLC j just run ATI tool 2.5 v14 and obtain this result is it good or not????
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800veyg9.jpg

Thanks for ur reply guys :rockout:

infrared
08-04-2006, 08:27 PM
can you scroll down a bit and take another screenshot please?

isamu-ad
08-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Sorry post in the wrong place j move it to x800Ve topic ....:banghead:

ahob
08-05-2006, 06:30 AM
I have a X800GTO in ATI tool it says R480 core Chip Type12 active Pipelines'

DEFAULT GPU-400MHZ
DEFAULT MEM-490MHZ
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES-0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES-0xFFFFFF9F


What would be my best bios and overclock im very new to this can you help me out. And Can I unlock all the pipes? This is a AGP card.

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 09:59 AM
what different in flash x800XL or x800 16p with 420/525 on what flash better?????

dolf
08-05-2006, 10:19 AM
I have a X800GTO in ATI tool it says R480 core Chip Type12 active Pipelines'

DEFAULT GPU-400MHZ
DEFAULT MEM-490MHZ
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES-0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES-0xFFFFFF9F


What would be my best bios and overclock im very new to this can you help me out. And Can I unlock all the pipes? This is a AGP card.

Is that your card equal to (you can see pictures in the pdf "flash instructions" file:
http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=733218 or http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

Just compare and tell me. Your card can be unlocked using one of the utilities.

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 10:35 AM
my card is the same http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168
i've flashed it on 16 pipe already by this flash instuction, and i'm interesting
what different in flash x800XL or x800gto 16p with 420/525 on what flash better?????

dolf
08-05-2006, 10:42 AM
my card is the same http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168
i've flashed it on 16 pipe already by this flash instuction, and i'm interesting
what different in flash x800XL or x800gto 16p with 420/525 on what flash better?????

You are sure that the card is equal to listed in the Flash instructions file? On the back site you have 8 mosfets in the top-right corner?
Save your BIOS and post it here. If you realy have the same board use XL BIOS just to unlock to 16 pipes and to test your max. overclock of the core/memory with 16 pipes. Report about the values and I will modify your original or XL bios to be recognized correctly (R480) and with the proper clocks.

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 11:10 AM
my card is saphire X800gto r430 pn 1024-cc6600-sa sku 11066-02
by the Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430 i have flashed it on 16pipes
I have just one question if I will flas on x800xl will it work stable?

dolf
08-05-2006, 12:08 PM
my card is saphire X800gto r430 pn 1024-cc6600-sa sku 11066-02
by the Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430 i have flashed it on 16pipes
I have just one question if I will flas on x800xl will it work stable?

It should work. Do you have copy of the original BIOS? If yes please just attach a copy of it but don't make me to explain 1000 times for what I need that BIOS. It is needed for you :) .

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 12:49 PM
my bios
this bios is working now

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 12:53 PM
and this is original

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 02:04 PM
it's work but my os see it like x800gto still not like x800xl and clock don't changes? and was not any speed different between x800gto with 16pipes
looks like it does not flashed? or i'm wrong??? I flashed with Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430, create cd disk with image. maybe i doing wrong something?

dolf
08-05-2006, 04:14 PM
Try to overclock it in order to be sure that it is R480. What are the max core / memory clocks?

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 04:27 PM
almost without artifacts 1-2 in minute in 10min at 430/540 ???

dolf
08-05-2006, 04:54 PM
almost without artifacts 1-2 in minute in 10min at 430/540 ???

This is R430 not R480 ;)

MaximusOG
08-05-2006, 04:59 PM
and what i suppose to do?
do you know can I flash my card by the Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430 from cd, when boot from it you can chose how to flash and I have chosen X800XL but looks like it's not work???

ahob
08-05-2006, 08:34 PM
Is that your card equal to (you can see pictures in the pdf "flash instructions" file:
http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=733218 or http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

Just compare and tell me. Your card can be unlocked using one of the utilities.


Looks like my card is the first link. Please advise me me on best overclock/ Bios

F430
08-05-2006, 09:02 PM
[ PCI Express x16: ATI Radeon X800 GT PCI-E (R423) ]

Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter ATI Radeon X800 GT PCI-E (R423)
GPU Code Name R423
PCI Device 1002-554B / 174B-0302
Transistors 160 million
Process Technology 0.13 um
Bus Type PCI Express x16 @ x16
Memory Size 128 MB
GPU Clock 601 MHz (original: 475 MHz, overclock: 27%)
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 8
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 6 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders 8 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate 4808 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 4808 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type DDR
Bus Width 256-bit
Real Clock 400 MHz (DDR) (original: 350 MHz, overclock:14%)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 25.0 GB/s

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 6T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 6T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 10T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 19T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 4T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 3T

ahob
08-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Ok So I flashed and unlocked the 16 pipe on R480 now what should I do to increse performance.

stevorob
08-05-2006, 10:24 PM
Ok So I flashed and unlocked the 16 pipe on R480 now what should I do to increse performance.

Overclock it. The r480 has really nice overclocking potential, but be careful of temps. I would suggest aftermarket cooling before trying to clock it up to high.

ahob
08-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Ok so Core=400mhz and mem=500mhz Since I have stock cooling on the r480 and all 16 pipes are unlocked what do you think I should run it at untill I get better cooling. Also what cooling would be the easiest to install on this card since im a rookie.

stevorob
08-05-2006, 11:26 PM
I would just test it while keeping an eye on your temps.

As for the cooler, I would get either an ATI Silencer 5 or a Zalman VF700 or VF900. If you have the red PCB, then the silencer will fit, but I'm not sure if it fits on the blue... just make sure you have the mounting holes on your card if you decided to order the ATI Silencer.

Tycho
08-07-2006, 08:14 AM
Can I upgrade this card to 16 pipelines? I tried Automated flash utility and there were still only 12 pipelines.

Thanks

stevorob
08-07-2006, 02:49 PM
Can I upgrade this card to 16 pipelines? I tried Automated flash utility and there were still only 12 pipelines.

Thanks

Nope, you're stuck at 12. Sorry. :(

the_person
08-07-2006, 11:07 PM
Here are my fuses for the HIS X800GTO IceQII turbo edition. Can the bios be flashed to unlock 16 pipelines?

DanielTorigoe
08-08-2006, 10:04 PM
hi, im daniel and im new to the forums. i have a new x850pro agp i got from ati's official store and i have posted a pic to show its fuse data ive been reading about for so long.

from the picture posted, do the fuses indicate my x850pro agp is elligible for a softmod to use 16 pipelines?

thanks!

stevorob
08-09-2006, 02:30 AM
Here are my fuses for the HIS X800GTO IceQII turbo edition. Can the bios be flashed to unlock 16 pipelines?

Sorry. You're stuck at 12

hi, im daniel and im new to the forums. i have a new x850pro agp i got from ati's official store and i have posted a pic to show its fuse data ive been reading about for so long.

from the picture posted, do the fuses indicate my x850pro agp is elligible for a softmod to use 16 pipelines?

thanks!

Yes you can. dolf has a flash utility somwhere for your card. If you look around, you'll find it.

ahob
08-10-2006, 09:47 AM
So I need good Aftermarket cooler for this Blue Sapphire X800GTO R480 core 16 pipes unlocked. Does anyone know one that would fit this exact model for sure ?

anantha92
08-11-2006, 06:40 AM
i was wondering if this card was unlockable from 12 pipelines to 16?
here is the fuses screenshot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/anantha11/Untitled-1copy-1.jpg
any help will be greatly appreciated.
cheers,

anantha92

jameskelsey
08-12-2006, 04:28 AM
I got a ATI X850 PRO AGP from the ATI clearance store.
Can i unlock the pipes with this card?
Attached ATITool jpg of fuses.

My DPI setting was on large so I will post a new screenshot that will show all info.

TheShape
08-13-2006, 08:35 PM
Here is my shot:

If this gets messed up, will the original bios in dolfs utility put it back to normal for mine? I just got this and would hate to screw it up.

jameskelsey
08-13-2006, 10:59 PM
New screenshot.

TheShape
08-15-2006, 12:12 AM
Well, I was able to mod my x850 Pro AGP to 16 pipelines, but let me tell you....this thing climbed up past 80° quick!! I was afraid to let it go any higher and flashed it back...this all happened in like 3 minutes...Maybe after I get the Zalman cooler, but still...I wasn't even gaming...:eek:

leighv
08-15-2006, 03:48 AM
hello, also new to the forums.

i have a sapphire x800GT, 256 gddr3, agp.

im wondering if i have any chance of unlock, soft or hardmod.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/imlittlev/ati2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/imlittlev/ati1.jpg

any response appreciated!

kirkcad
08-16-2006, 03:04 AM
Am assuming, after reading all the threads here about modding the 850 pro to the 16 pipelines, that my newly purchased 850 pro from ATI will not be able to unlock to the 16 pipes. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks for any help and info!

Naruto
08-24-2006, 11:29 PM
My card is powercolor x800gto with 12 pipeline, I want to know if I can change it to 16 pipeline and how.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E

Thank you

dolf
08-25-2006, 07:24 AM
My card is powercolor x800gto with 12 pipeline, I want to know if I can change it to 16 pipeline and how.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E

Thank you

No way to unlock. Sorry :cry: .

Riou
08-29-2006, 06:25 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/060829/fuse1993.jpg http://img.techpowerup.org/060829/fuses2.jpg

Can I unlock my ATi X850 Pro with 12 default pipelines?

Riou
08-29-2006, 07:08 AM
Here is my shot:

If this gets messed up, will the original bios in dolfs utility put it back to normal for mine? I just got this and would hate to screw it up.

TheShape, I think I have exactly the same data from ATITool as your X850 Pro. We're like identical twins! :roll: Does that mean I can flash my card to 16 pipelines? :confused: How was the flash? Everything working okay?

dolf
08-29-2006, 09:29 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/060829/fuse1993.jpg http://img.techpowerup.org/060829/fuses2.jpg

Can I unlock my ATi X850 Pro with 12 default pipelines?

Your card can and will unlock to 16 pipes. Don't warry for the flashing it have to be smooth and without any problems. But please first READ the "flash instructions" file for X850PRO VIVO AGP cards.

Download link: http://www.savefile.com/projects/738578

imlittlev
08-31-2006, 03:55 AM
any clue as to my card, which i posted on page 234?

DragonSquid
08-31-2006, 08:07 AM
Hoping for a unlock to 16 pipes
ATI x800GTO agp card

dolf
08-31-2006, 08:38 AM
Your card can't be unlocked but it is with R480 ;) . (Overclock it hard).

LTB-P5WD2
09-05-2006, 07:35 AM
I took off the heatsink and I have the R480 chip and the 16mem chips. I have been unable to copy the Atitool screen to post. How have you been copying that screen? I have overclocked my Powercolor X800GT to 550core/550mem with a Zalman VF700-AIcu fan. 3DMark05 score went from 4058 to 4592 I have not flashed the bios yet since I do not have a back up card. I want to know what I can do with this card?
Powercolor X800GT
Device ID 554B
Chip name R423
Host Interface PCI-E
Catalyst Version 6.8
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 8
Default GPU Clock 475.00 Mhz
Defau;t Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF6FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x25650

SuperDave9x19
09-07-2006, 08:31 PM
I got one of these X800GTOs coming soon and I found this info.

WOW.

I will be making the request in a few business days.

If it would help, I will repay the kindness by putting required files on my limited webspace if that is an intelligent thing to do (ie if there is ONE set of files people have mailed 100+ times in this thread) and if is OK with the originator.

I figure that will give the guy a bit of a break.

I have previously flashed VCard BIOS before (Radeon 8500 Oh yeah!!!) so i should be able to handle this.

Thanx in advance.

SuperDave9x19

Riou
09-08-2006, 08:37 AM
I have been unable to copy the Atitool screen to post. How have you been copying that screen?

Select the window you want in focus. Press ALT + Print Scrn. Then paste into image editor.

GuzuGuzu
09-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Select the window you want in focus. Press ALT + Print Scrn. Then paste into image editor.

Hello Riou, I have also a HIS X800GTO VIVO iTurbo Graphic Card with 1xVGA and 1xDVI. Following fuses ATiTool gives to me:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

It's weird that ATITool keeps identifying the R430 core (USE DEVICE: 0x554F: R430, Bus:4,Dev:0), but I have physically checked the core and the mem, and it is a R480 and Samsung 1,6ns.

What can be wrong? Can those 4 pipes still be unlocked? :confused:

Thanks!

http://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-1.gifhttp://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-2.gifhttp://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-3.gif
http://img.techpowerup.org/060907/100_8453484.jpg

Riou
09-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Guzu, AFAIK I am not an expert on this, but Dolf would probably say your card cannot be unlocked.

GuzuGuzu
09-08-2006, 01:11 PM
Guzu, AFAIK I am not an expert on this, but Dolf would probably say your card cannot be unlocked.

Thanx Riou! I am looking forward for Dolf's answer, hopefully it will be positive. :)

SuperDave9x19
09-08-2006, 01:14 PM
Dangit.

My "Sonic Wall" at work blocks my internet access to the DL sites of the various utilities and instructions as listed on page (I think) 16. I have a 56K phone line at home and if I DL it from there I risk a corrupt DL and screwing up my video card.

The new card is deliverred today.

can someone email the Floppy Disk Utility to unlock this and the .PDF (Edit. the .PDF was not blocked by sonic wall so i have it) and whatever else you feel is essential, zipped in a file, then what the heck rename the file to a .txt extension so the corporate toady programs don't block it to:

bradld@ilcdover.com

I have been on my Voodoo3 2000 16MB PCI for too long. Someone have mercy.

BTW if there is a specific ATI flash tool, what is version. (Edit: send it too. damn thing is Sonic Wall Blocked at 4 locations)

This thread has become so long and updated that a summary reply from an expert linking most recent data would be nice.

I know. I am new and I ask too much. But if someone sets me up I will send them a classic "Chloe Vevrier jogging" video or something... :rockout:

dolf
09-08-2006, 03:58 PM
Hello Riou, I have also a HIS X800GTO VIVO iTurbo Graphic Card with 1xVGA and 1xDVI. Following fuses ATiTool gives to me:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

It's weird that ATITool keeps identifying the R430 core (USE DEVICE: 0x554F: R430, Bus:4,Dev:0), but I have physically checked the core and the mem, and it is a R480 and Samsung 1,6ns.

What can be wrong? Can those 4 pipes still be unlocked? :confused:

Thanks!

http://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-1.gifhttp://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-2.gifhttp://img.techpowerup.org/060907/Untitled-3.gif
http://img.techpowerup.org/060907/100_8453484.jpg

Unfortunately Riou is right and the answer here is not moddable card. Sorry :cry: . But you can change the BIOS with "proper" one for R480 which will bring you few % more performance. Find max core and max memory with ATITool. The new BIOS should be 500-580MHz core / 560-600MHz memory.

SuperDave9x19
09-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Woo hoo got it in mail.

Now that I have a whole weekend, please ignore my greedy requests for stuff. If you send then great, but no worriesl. I can DL and hope that the DLs don't corrupt from 56K at home i suppose. It rarely fails but a failure on a BIOS flash algorithm gives me creeps. And besides, I need to assess the "before" performance for a while.

Thanx and I will return to this thread with the results.

SuperDave9x19
09-08-2006, 06:39 PM
First of all thanx in advance for not saying "SuperDave9x19 read the whole thread and muddle thru the details yourself ya dork"

Second. I have the R480 chip so my requests are not valid, although i did re-reply not to bother sending me flash tools for other reasons.

Third. This card rocks compared to my RMAd X1600 pro I bought 4 months ago. I got this card as a proper replacement from NewEgg since they discontinued the Saphire X1600Pro. What a steal. their customer service rocks.

Fourth. I like that TRIXX (This x800GTO is retail while my X1600 Pro was RMA. what a price diff 4 months makes. I made exchange at $11 loss to get this card. My how prices change over 4 months. I got better card with better accessories and "they" got $11 profit off me. good deal) as it spent 35 minutes testing for overclockability in a clever wat that would be 2 weeks of on and off testing old school style.

Fifth: at default settings: 3dMark03 score of 7999. VPU 66C Board 51C
at "performance" settings as chosen by TRIXX: 3dmark03: 9375!!! VPU 69.9 Board: 55.0. Core 492 MHz. mem 574 MHz
so that TRIXX overclocking does pretty dang good.


Are you hardcore overclockers confident enough in the TRIXX settings to trust it?
cause to me it seems like 35 minutes of a program to replace weeks of oclocking and testing is too good to be true.

Anyway I am way happy. Thanx in advance for the option to unlock stuff even if i didn't use it.

liquidaim
09-08-2006, 09:33 PM
Hello,

apologies for asking the same damn question as everyone else, but must ask.

Chip Type: R481
Active Pipelines: 12
Default GPU Clock: 500
Default mem clock: 500
Config Die Fuses: 0xFFFFBFFF
Config Rom Fuses: 0xFFFFFF9E

Does the gpu have a die cut?

Thanks for all the help

dolf
09-08-2006, 11:15 PM
Hello,

apologies for asking the same damn question as everyone else, but must ask.

Chip Type: R481
Active Pipelines: 12
Default GPU Clock: 500
Default mem clock: 500
Config Die Fuses: 0xFFFFBFFF
Config Rom Fuses: 0xFFFFFF9E

Does the gpu have a die cut?

Thanks for all the help

Yes it has :cry: and unfortunately couldn't be fixed.

FALOWSKI521
09-13-2006, 05:57 AM
I have a Sapphire Radeon x800gto agp with 12 pipes can i unlock...

Ratcatcher
09-13-2006, 10:18 PM
is there any thing i can do with my card?
X800GTO (R420)
http://img.techpowerup.org/060913/ati795.jpg

TNX

LTB-P5WD2
09-14-2006, 02:21 AM
What can I do to this Powercolor X800GT? I have had the heatsink off and the chip is the R480 and the mem is 1.6

supturbo
09-14-2006, 04:26 AM
This is what I have X850pro VIVO (s/n 180536)
r481/ smasung 1.6
config_die_fuses 0xFFFFDFFF
config_substrate_fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
config_rom_fuses 0xA60
GB_pipe_select 0xAD46

I have hardmod the lasercut and flashes with x850xt pe bios-I get the speed no problems but I cannot get the pipes. I have checked the hardmod and it has connectivity with the broken "dot" if you want to call it that.
flashrom.exe -newbios -f -p 0 empty.bin
flashrom.exe -newbios -f -p 0 x850xtpe.bin
any advice or help to get these last 4 pipes or is this card "DIE" locked
Thanks

stevorob
09-27-2006, 04:21 PM
I think you guys are stuck at 12.

LTB-P5WD2, you're stuck at 8.


Sorry :(

coodiggy
09-27-2006, 05:16 PM
What can I do to this Powercolor X800GT? I have had the heatsink off and the chip is the R480 and the mem is 1.6
You might be able to get 12 pipes, your CONFIG_ROM_FUSES say's the bios is not blocking any pipes, but your CONFIG_DIE_FUSES shows that there is a set locked, this cannot be changed but it may only be locking 1 set of pipes. The CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES shows that there is either a fuse lock or laser lock, try to do the laser cut/fuse config mod on the substrate fuse under the heatsink then recheck in ati-tool to see if that unlocks another set of pipes.

TWOGUNS
09-27-2006, 10:30 PM
Hello to all :toast: this card make.me have 16 ?? or im stuck at 12.?? :respect: tks :respect:

Dr Delerious
09-28-2006, 01:46 AM
Hoping someone could point me in the right direction for the bios flash aswell as the correct procedure to flash, Also is it possible to flash the bios to open gpu/mem.
Wanting to unlock to 16pipes.
Realising i cant o/c too much as i have the R430 core, what would be a respectable o/c to expect.

Sapphire X800GTO2 256M GDDR3 ( BLUE PCB )


AL8 m/b, P4 641@3.52 with Zalman cooler, 2gb corsair xms 4-4-4-12, truepower 430w psu,
xp pro o/s.

stevorob
09-28-2006, 02:14 AM
Dr. Delerious

Your card can be unlocked. Check http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

Download the file, extract it, and find the correct BIOS and make a bootable CD from it.

Dr Delerious
09-28-2006, 12:57 PM
stevorob.

Thanks for the assistance. Downloaded the folder and assuming the X800GTO AGP (R430) folder is the one to be looking at.
I have posted a shot of rabit and noticed my description and Info line differs from those in the readme assosiated, also my card uses a PCI-E slot so i am not sure whether to flash. PN 1024-CC60-OA-SA .

dolf
09-28-2006, 03:42 PM
Hoping someone could point me in the right direction for the bios flash aswell as the correct procedure to flash, Also is it possible to flash the bios to open gpu/mem.
Wanting to unlock to 16pipes.
Realising i cant o/c too much as i have the R430 core, what would be a respectable o/c to expect.

Sapphire X800GTO2 256M GDDR3 ( BLUE PCB )


AL8 m/b, P4 641@3.52 with Zalman cooler, 2gb corsair xms 4-4-4-12, truepower 430w psu,
xp pro o/s.

DON'T use the automated utility for AGP card. Post your BIOS here for modification to 16 pipes.

Chioru
09-28-2006, 11:01 PM
Here is my X800 ...

Can be unlocked? If yes, how? :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/060928/untitled11.jpghttp://img.techpowerup.org/060928/untitled22.jpghttp://img.techpowerup.org/060928/untitled33.jpg

TWOGUNS
09-28-2006, 11:29 PM
Hello to all :toast: this card make.me have 16 ?? :nutkick: or im stuck at 12.?? :respect: tks :respect:

SAPPHIRE X800GTO (FIREBLADE EDITION)

help m plzzzzzz :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Thanks

Dr Delerious
09-29-2006, 04:24 AM
Dolf:

I have posted my bios, I remember reading somewhere about using rabit or ati tool to save or reflash bios using a modified bios, could you assist me in the correct way to flash using this method. :toast:

dolf
09-29-2006, 07:45 AM
Dolf:

I have posted my bios, I remember reading somewhere about using rabit or ati tool to save or reflash bios using a modified bios, could you assist me in the correct way to flash using this method. :toast:

Here you are 16 pipe BIOS. Flash it using atiflash in DOS mode with the following command line:
atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 16p.bin

Dr Delerious
09-29-2006, 03:43 PM
dolf:
Thanks for the 16p bios but it is a .rom file and the bios could not find the new bios. Can i simply chance the command to suit. eg:atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 16.rom. i am using a floppy drive.

TWOGUNS
09-29-2006, 11:35 PM
SAPPHIRE X800GTO (FIREBLADE EDITION)

help m plzzzzzz :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Thanks

pls donīt ignor...help plz :cry:

dolf
09-29-2006, 11:38 PM
dolf:
Thanks for the 16p bios but it is a .rom file and the bios could not find the new bios. Can i simply chance the command to suit. eg:atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 16.rom. i am using a floppy drive.

Yes you can and you have to do it. Sorry but I miss to save it in bin.

dolf
09-29-2006, 11:39 PM
pls donīt ignor...help plz :cry:

Unfortunately your card can't be unlocked to 16 pipes. Just overclock it to the max.

Dr Delerious
09-30-2006, 02:20 AM
Yes you can and you have to do it. Sorry but I miss to save it in bin.

:respect: fkn little rippa! :toast:

Thanks for your help dolf, @ 16 pipes.
Appreciate your interest. Without people like yourself, well! we'd all be stuffed ;)
gorlindre.

zefram
09-30-2006, 10:19 AM
First time post, long time techpowerup stalker :p

Take a look at my ATi Tool fuse:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9973/capture2uz1.jpghttp://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7484/capture3ip9.jpg

Could it be unlocked?

And i successfully overclocked it to X800XT speed, without the card heating up too much - due to the use of watercooling...........

Is there any X800XT vBIOS.............

Anyway here's my GPU info:
X800GTO (xpertvision)
256MB DDR3
AGP
NO VIVO
No RIALTO bridge, GPU native AGP

Thanks in advance for any reply....... and greetings from PCstats.com forum :D

Owh, here's LINK (http://www.savefile.com/files/120074) to my X800GTO AGP BIOS!

TWOGUNS
09-30-2006, 10:58 AM
Unfortunately your card can't be unlocked to 16 pipes. Just overclock it to the max.



ok...:D overclock power :cool:

Thanks dolf:toast:

dolf
09-30-2006, 12:10 PM
First time post, long time techpowerup stalker :p

Take a look at my ATi Tool fuse:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9973/capture2uz1.jpghttp://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7484/capture3ip9.jpg

Could it be unlocked?

And i successfully overclocked it to X800XT speed, without the card heating up too much - due to the use of watercooling...........

Is there any X800XT vBIOS.............

Anyway here's my GPU info:
X800GTO (xpertvision)
256MB DDR3
AGP
NO VIVO
No RIALTO bridge, GPU native AGP

Thanks in advance for any reply....... and greetings from PCstats.com forum :D

Owh, here's LINK (http://www.savefile.com/files/120074) to my X800GTO AGP BIOS!

It is the good "old" X800PRO AGP with R420 core. Unfortunately that core can't be unlocked to 16 pipes but probably could be overclocked to 520-580MHz. Do the same thing with the memory and enjoy it. The overclocked 12 pipe card could be very close to one with 16 pipes. Usually the all 16 pipes generate more heat and the 16 pipe core has limited overclock in comparison with one with 12 pipes.

zefram
09-30-2006, 02:51 PM
It is the good "old" X800PRO AGP with R420 core. Unfortunately that core can't be unlocked to 16 pipes but probably could be overclocked to 520-580MHz. Do the same thing with the memory and enjoy it. The overclocked 12 pipe card could be very close to one with 16 pipes. Usually the all 16 pipes generate more heat and the 16 pipe core has limited overclock in comparison with one with 12 pipes.

Thanks for your time, btw is it possible to just flashed it to X800XT BIOS but letting it run at 12pipelines? Wanted these GPU to run at X800XT's speed...

Lack of temperature monitoring chips kinda sucks - in a way that i have to mount temp sensor and do 'classic heat testing' - by touching the memory hsf for excessive heats generated :p

Owh, the memory goes up to 601mhz (1202mhz) and the core goes up to 520Mhz. It could probably goes higher, but then the memory hsf kinda hot, due to the absence of active airflow (using watercooling).

This is absurd though, if compared to clockspeed and memory speed, my GPU faster compared to X800XT PE (PE mem runs at 1120mhz). What's the 3D Mark 03 score for XT PE?

dolf
09-30-2006, 10:32 PM
Thanks for your time, btw is it possible to just flashed it to X800XT BIOS but letting it run at 12pipelines? Wanted these GPU to run at X800XT's speed...

Lack of temperature monitoring chips kinda sucks - in a way that i have to mount temp sensor and do 'classic heat testing' - by touching the memory hsf for excessive heats generated :p

Owh, the memory goes up to 601mhz (1202mhz) and the core goes up to 520Mhz. It could probably goes higher, but then the memory hsf kinda hot, due to the absence of active airflow (using watercooling).

This is absurd though, if compared to clockspeed and memory speed, my GPU faster compared to X800XT PE (PE mem runs at 1120mhz). What's the 3D Mark 03 score for XT PE?

In principle you can do that and you will obtain X800XT (PE) but with 12 pipes. You should get the temperature monitoring but I am afraid that Xpertvision creates "custommer" orientated products saving the money from different parts (of course the most wanted feature - temp. monitoring usually is the first one :mad: ). If you have picture of your card I can help you to understand (if possible front side but without cooler). Otherwise you have to flash X800XT PE BIOS and to reinstall the drivers in order to check. Your card is non VIVO and you have to edit the BIOS with RaBit and to uncheck the VIVO features, to save the BIOS and to flash with it.

zefram
10-01-2006, 10:35 AM
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7039/3009061442tl4.jpg
The X800GTO AGP are with the 8-chips DDR3. Sorry for the image quality, snapped it several days ago with my Razr....... and razr are known to be suck in image quality :p
Now the graphics card are in my rig, and with the waterblock i'll doubt you could see the layout properly :p

And another puzzling thing, the card came with those 6-pin PCI-express power......... and its AGP :D
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9506/3009061414jf3.jpg
Probably to save PCB's cost, since by this they could use the same PCB for PCI-express version?

dolf
10-01-2006, 11:28 AM
It is different PCB design and probably the normal XT BIOS won't work. Unfortunately I can't see the LM63 chip which is responsible for the temp. monitoring. If you still want to try the XT BIOS you can use RamBios 1.5 to test it. Search the forum for how and what to do. If you can't find LM63 it is useless to try the flash to XT.

zefram
10-01-2006, 05:17 PM
It is different PCB design and probably the normal XT BIOS won't work. Unfortunately I can't see the LM63 chip which is responsible for the temp. monitoring. If you still want to try the XT BIOS you can use RamBios 1.5 to test it. Search the forum for how and what to do. If you can't find LM63 it is useless to try the flash to XT.

I found the Rambios Thread (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8312&highlight=RamBios). Interesting piece of software there :D

I'll try using Generic X800XT AGP BIOS. But i'll doubt it'll work due to the absence of those monitoring chips. I dont think Rabit could disable the monitoring functions?

dolf
10-01-2006, 11:30 PM
I found the Rambios Thread (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8312&highlight=RamBios). Interesting piece of software there :D

I'll try using Generic X800XT AGP BIOS. But i'll doubt it'll work due to the absence of those monitoring chips. I dont think Rabit could disable the monitoring functions?

You just can check whether the BIOS is working or not. If you can see something in DOS then you can flash.

tyellbee
10-03-2006, 04:26 PM
Dolf, could you please mod this bios for me?

Its an Asus x800pro, fuses:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES -------------->0XFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES----->0XFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES-------------->0X1021

Thanks

dolf
10-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Dolf, could you please mod this bios for me?

Its an Asus x800pro, fuses:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES -------------->0XFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES----->0XFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES-------------->0X1021

Thanks

Your X800PRO VIVO will unlock to 16 pipes but the modded X800PRO BIOS won't work on X800PROS with fuse values like yours. You have to flash it with X800XT BIOS and after if everything is OK with X800XT PE speeds you can flash it with X800XT PE BIOS. All these options are available in my Automated Flash Utility for X800PRO VIVO AGP.
Read the flash instructions file.

Download link: http://savefile.com/projects/670063

tyellbee
10-04-2006, 12:14 AM
Your X800PRO VIVO will unlock to 16 pipes but the modded X800PRO BIOS won't work on X800PROS with fuse values like yours. You have to flash it with X800XT BIOS and after if everything is OK with X800XT PE speeds you can flash it with X800XT PE BIOS. All these options are available in my Automated Flash Utility for X800PRO VIVO AGP.
Read the flash instructions file.

Download link: http://savefile.com/projects/670063
Thank U :D

I'll give it a try...

coodiggy
10-04-2006, 07:29 PM
Dolf, could you please mod this bios for me?

Its an Asus x800pro, fuses:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES -------------->0XFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES----->0XFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES-------------->0X1021

Thanks

Good luck with yours, I hope that you have 16 usable pipes :) Don't forget to BACKUP your ORIGINAL BIOS ;)

I have the same FUSE data but my CONFIG_ROM_FUSES reads 0x4021 it has bad pipes and unlocked just fine but the pipes showed their defective nature or another limmit we have not discovered how to re-enable. What is your GB_PIPE_SELECT?

jimmyjam358
10-05-2006, 04:27 AM
I have used the modded flashrom and atiflash to no avail. It says in flashrom my bios is locked if anyone has any information on how to unlock my other pipes please let me know. I have oc'd stable @ more than an 850xt pe AGP and want the extra performance. Thanks in advance for any help. I have an ATI x850pro vivo 256.

dolf
10-05-2006, 08:37 AM
I have used the modded flashrom and atiflash to no avail. It says in flashrom my bios is locked if anyone has any information on how to unlock my other pipes please let me know. I have oc'd stable @ more than an 850xt pe AGP and want the extra performance. Thanks in advance for any help. I have an ATI x850pro vivo 256.

Your card will unlock to 16 pipes :toast: . Save your original BIOS just in case. To make the long story short use the Automated Flash Utility for X850PRO VIVO AGP:

Download link: http://www.savefile.com/projects/738578

Before to start and to ask, please read the "Flash Instructions" file ;) .

jimmyjam358
10-05-2006, 04:44 PM
It unlocked but cannot come close to the xt pe speeds oh well I unlocked the pipes. Thanks

coodiggy
10-05-2006, 05:22 PM
maybe you need aditional cooling?

dolf
10-05-2006, 08:00 PM
It unlocked but cannot come close to the xt pe speeds oh well I unlocked the pipes. Thanks

It is expected to be like that because that is the reason to have X800PRO with working 16 pipes ;) . You need Voltmod and beter cooling (ATI Silencer 5 rev.2 for instance).

jimmyjam358
10-05-2006, 08:35 PM
I assumed I would need more cooling, how do I do a volt mod?

dolf
10-05-2006, 09:09 PM
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/101

jimmyjam358
10-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Might not want to go that far yet. Although if I fry this card it will be a perfect excuse to upgrade my whole rig and go pcie.

Zing
10-07-2006, 01:50 PM
Can any one help me Saphire x1900GT v2 ? Like unlock extra pipes and shaders? And make is it possibel to clock it? Dunno me dont know how to extract BIOS from it, is there any one who can tell me that?

L4rS
10-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Hi, i have a His x800gt iceqII iturbo with r480, i verrified it by looking under the heatsink, i have 2.0ns ddr3,

I tested the modified bios of shadowflare but it don't change anything in pipe, the core is now detected like a r480 but still as 8 pipeline, the card is 52° insteed of 47° on windows desktop, is it normal?
This is my original bios dumped with ati tray tools.

a reboot and temperature normal...

thanks a lot for your work.

oh and this:

CONFIG DIE FUSES --- 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG SUBSTRATE FUSES --- 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG ROM FUSES --- 0x862

i post later with the modified bios
here they are
CONFIG DIE FUSES --- 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG SUBSTRATE FUSES --- 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG ROM FUSES --- 0x262

but here always 8 pipe actived...

dolf
10-09-2006, 09:25 PM
Hi, i have a His x800gt iceqII iturbo with r480, i verrified it by looking under the heatsink, i have 2.0ns ddr3,

I tested the modified bios of shadowflare but it don't change anything in pipe, the core is now detected like a r480 but still as 8 pipeline, the card is 52° insteed of 47° on windows desktop, is it normal?
This is my original bios dumped with ati tray tools.

a reboot and temperature normal...

thanks a lot for your work.

oh and this:

CONFIG DIE FUSES --- 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG SUBSTRATE FUSES --- 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG ROM FUSES --- 0x862

i post later with the modified bios
here they are
CONFIG DIE FUSES --- 0xFFFF9FFF
CONFIG SUBSTRATE FUSES --- 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG ROM FUSES --- 0x262

but here always 8 pipe actived...

You will continue to be with 8 pipes. Nothing can be done. Just overclock to max. (540-600MHz on the core and be happy ;) ).

jimmyjam358
10-10-2006, 04:21 AM
Hey has anyone used the Zaleman v700 vga cooler, will that help my clock speeds?

Wicked
10-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Hello im kinda new to this bios modding thing.. i was just wondering if anything could be done to this x800se 256mb gddr3 r420 (8 pipelines).



CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x19940

bios uploaded also

Thanx in advance.

FujiwaraTakumi
10-10-2006, 07:34 AM
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if I could unlock my Sapphire x800gto (agp) from 12 to 16 pipelines. I've seen different things throughout the thread, and was wondering if mine was unlockable. In case the images don't come up, my core is the R430. Here's the fuses:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3987&d=1160462117
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3986&d=1160462099

And should that be unlockable, which bios do I use and where can I get it?

dolf
10-10-2006, 08:42 AM
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if I could unlock my Sapphire x800gto (agp) from 12 to 16 pipelines. I've seen different things throughout the thread, and was wondering if mine was unlockable. In case the images don't come up, my core is the R430. Here's the fuses:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F

http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3987&d=1160462117
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3986&d=1160462099

And should that be unlockable, which bios do I use and where can I get it?

Yes you can unlock your card to 16 pipes :D .
How? I will suggest to use my Automated Flash Utiliti on Bootable CD (for X800GTO AGP with R430 and Realto bridge) image from here:

Download: http://www.savefile.com/projects/971168

Please before to start with flashing to read the "Flash Instructions" file.

Good luck.

FujiwaraTakumi
10-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Yes you can unlock your card to 16 pipes :D .
How? I will suggest to use my Automated Flash Utiliti on Bootable CD (for X800GTO AGP with R430 and Realto bridge) image from here:

Download: http://www.savefile.com/projects/971168

Please before to start with flashing to read the "Flash Instructions" file.

Good luck.

I was following the "Flash Instructions" and it says "Use ATITool to dump the BIOS." - I can't find that option. I was also wondering about the files you gave. When I extract them, it's only supposed to come out as an .iso right? Sorry I have so many questions. I'm new to this.


Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out. 16 pipelines! w00t

Wicked
10-10-2006, 10:49 PM
I'm guessing scince you didnt reply to mine .. it is not possible.. im guessing that little D means thats its laser cut? Well anyways thanx for yalls time.

HBguy
10-11-2006, 03:31 AM
Hi peeps...I don't know if this is the right thread to post this....I flashed my card with 16 pipes mod and all is well. However, I forgot to make a backup and was hoping someon has a copy, the card is a Sapphire X800 GTO AGP (R480).

Also I was wondering does anyone know how to fix the BIOS to automatically run at a modded clock rate without having to run ATI Tools everytime?....Can this be done through modifiing the BIOS again?? ...Or, what do you suggest?

avpoh8
10-11-2006, 04:16 AM
I would like to see if I can unlock my other 4 pipes on this card. It is a x800 GTO.

Here is the info from the ATITool 0.24
Device ID 5549
Chip Type R423
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF3EFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSS 0xFFFFF71E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x6E48

dolf
10-11-2006, 07:34 AM
I was following the "Flash Instructions" and it says "Use ATITool to dump the BIOS." - I can't find that option. I was also wondering about the files you gave. When I extract them, it's only supposed to come out as an .iso right? Sorry I have so many questions. I'm new to this.

ATITool>Settings>Overclocking>Miscellaneous>Save VGA BIOS to file...

When you unpack the archive you should obtain xxxxxxxxxxx.iso file. Burn it like in the "Flash Instructions" file.

dolf
10-11-2006, 07:40 AM
I'm guessing scince you didnt reply to mine .. it is not possible.. im guessing that little D means thats its laser cut? Well anyways thanx for yalls time.

Yes you guess correct unfortunately - no more pipes for you.


HBguy - you should use that: Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R480 (Realto) - http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218

HBguy
10-11-2006, 08:25 AM
Yes you guess correct unfortunately - no more pipes for you.


HBguy - you should use that: Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R480 (Realto) - http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218

Huh?...I was asking if anyone has an original copy of the Sapphire X800 GTO (R480) BIOS so that I can get a copy, and how do I modify the bios to automatically run the GPU/memory OC'd .

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 01:00 PM
can someone give me a link to a modded bios for a :
x800 gto fireblade with R430 core ( pci-e )
thanx

akakal
10-11-2006, 01:46 PM
hey guys ... new to the forums and to the X800 GTO ... i have a connect3d X800GTO PCI-E ... i want to know if mine in unlockable ..

-- Your ATi video adapter low level info --
Vendor: 0x1002, SubVendor: 0x1002 (ATI Technologies Inc)
Device: 0x554F (R423), SubSystem: 0x0112
CONFIG_XSTRAP.8P_DISABLE = 0x02
On Board EEPROM: ST M25P05/c (64 Kb)
Active pipelines: 12, GB_TILE_CONFIG = 0x0001001D
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x000227A4
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFF7FFF, 4 died pipeline(s)
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9E, 4 disabled pipeline(s)
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x00000A61
CONFIG_REGISTER_FUSES = 0x00000000

dolf
10-11-2006, 02:11 PM
can someone give me a link to a modded bios for a :
x800 gto fireblade with R430 core ( pci-e )
thanx

It is better to start with the question whether my card can be unlocked? And only then to look for BIOS. Post here your fuse values and your original BIOS and we will see whether is possible to help you ;) . Also what are your max. core/memory clocks (test that with ATITool).

Zero imput = zero result ;)

dolf
10-11-2006, 02:14 PM
hey guys ... new to the forums and to the X800 GTO ... i have a connect3d X800GTO PCI-E ... i want to know if mine in unlockable ..

-- Your ATi video adapter low level info --
Vendor: 0x1002, SubVendor: 0x1002 (ATI Technologies Inc)
Device: 0x554F (R423), SubSystem: 0x0112
CONFIG_XSTRAP.8P_DISABLE = 0x02
On Board EEPROM: ST M25P05/c (64 Kb)
Active pipelines: 12, GB_TILE_CONFIG = 0x0001001D
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x000227A4
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFF7FFF, 4 died pipeline(s)
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9E, 4 disabled pipeline(s)
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x00000A61
CONFIG_REGISTER_FUSES = 0x00000000


Unfortunately you will remain with 12 pipes.

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 04:33 PM
fuse data on my card ( R430 core checked the core myself )
http://img.techpowerup.org/061011/fuses.jpg

dolf
10-11-2006, 04:50 PM
fuse data on my card ( R430 core checked the core myself )
http://img.techpowerup.org/061011/fuses.jpg

It seems with R480 (but you have to test the max. core in order to prove that) and can be unlocked to 16 pipes. I have BIOSes for both R430 and R480 but need your max core / memory from ATITool. In order to give you correct BIOS I need your answers of the following questions:
1. VIVO or non VIVO card you have?
2. 1xDVI/1xVGA or dual DVI?
3. Do you have extermal power supply connector or not?
4. What is the memory 2.0ns or 1.6ns? (it is not so important because you should post the max overclock)

As I told you zero imput = zero result ;)

Here you are 2 BIOSes:

1. GTO16R43.bin - originally for R480 (like yours) moded to be recognized like R430
2. X80GTO16.bin - From FB with R430

I will recommend BIOS 1. First flash it using: atiflash -f -p -newbios gto16r43.bin (in DOS mode). You have to reinstall the drivers. After unlocking of the pipes test the max core/ memory. Edit the BIOS with RaBit and adjust the core / memory clocks according to the discovered max stable minus 10-15MHz for the core and minus 15-20MHz for the memory. Save the new BIOS and flash again. Be happy :D .

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 05:25 PM
mem 550
core 425
thats around max no arti's
but it is an R430 core because is have checked it, i have taken the cooler of and visually checked on it to be sure of it
can you tell me how to make an bootable cd with both the original and modded bios on it

1. VIVO or non VIVO card you have? NON VIVO
2. 1xDVI/1xVGA or dual DVI? 1X DVI , 1 X VGA(D-SUB)
3. Do you have extermal power supply connector or not? non external power supply
4. What is the memory 2.0ns or 1.6ns? (it is not so important because you should post the max overclock) 1.6 ns but doesn't go any higher than 555 / 560 mhz

so i geus that i can better only take a bios for R430 with 16 pp enabled.

thanx

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 08:32 PM
wel the bios worked and there is a big difference in score.
in 3d mark 03
with 12 pixelpipelines @ stock speeds i got 9080 points
with 16 pixelpipelines @ stock speeds i got 10002 points

it is an sapphire ati radeon x 800 gto fireblade ( blue pcb and R430 core ) pci-e
so yes it is possible to unlock the 4 disabled pipelines !! atleast at my card it is :)

y'all good luck

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 09:38 PM
wel the bios worked and there is a big difference in score.
in 3d mark 03
with 12 pixelpipelines @ stock speeds i got 9080 points
with 16 pixelpipelines @ stock speeds i got 10002 points

3dmark 05 with 12 pp @ stock speeds : 4436
3dmark 05 with 16 pp @ stock speeds : 4980
3dmark 05 with 16 pp @ max speeds : 5263

my system :
amd athlon 3700+ 1 mb cache ( s754 )
asrock k8nfg4 sata 2
1024 mb kingston ddr 400
sata 2 , 160 gb hdd ( 16 mb cache )
ide 160 gb hdd ( 8 mb cache )
dvd-rw

it is an sapphire ati radeon x 800 gto fireblade ( blue pcb and R430 core ) pci-e
so yes it is possible to unlock the 4 disabled pipelines !! atleast at my card it is :)

y'all good luck

pndnass
10-11-2006, 11:17 PM
So I got my brand new shiny X800GTO, can I unlock it?

If I can unlock it what is the process. I had a few links to files to download but the links seem to be bad now. Is there a short how-to to unlock?

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~quielb/atitool.jpg

As a side not I did a little bit over OC testing and I got to a stable 600 core clock. As I test a bit more and put on my new VF900 I will post my results for those that may be interested.

klen_ghost
10-11-2006, 11:29 PM
So I got my brand new shiny X800GTO, can I unlock it?

If I can unlock it what is the process. I had a few links to files to download but the links seem to be bad now. Is there a short how-to to unlock?

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~quielb/atitool.jpg

As a side not I did a little bit over OC testing and I got to a stable 600 core clock. As I test a bit more and put on my new VF900 I will post my results for those that may be interested.

no can't be unlocked , you got to have 2 F's while in the second you got an E
but 600 core is pretty allright if you ask me fot such a ( budget ) card
mine doesn't reach that high , R 430 , 16 pixeppipelines @ 420 core , 550 mem. stable
read the results as i posted them around here.

grtz

jimmyjam358
10-12-2006, 04:03 AM
Zalman v900 VGA Cooler, STABLE 540/590 I have reached the XT PE thanks alot for everyones help. Next step will have to be a new rig alltogether.

jimmyjam358
10-12-2006, 04:04 AM
All that out of a x850 pro vivo AGP, 3Dmark 03 12000. Nice.

Qbass
10-13-2006, 05:10 AM
it looks like I can flash this, r480 core too..
what bios should I use?

Qbass
10-13-2006, 05:12 AM
it looks like I can flash this, r480 core too..
what bios should I use?

hopefully the img uploaded..

GPU 400mhz
MEM 490mhz
die fuses 0xFFFFFFFF
sub fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
rom fuses 0x261
pipe select 0x2724

dolf
10-13-2006, 08:17 AM
Your original BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Or other already moded BIOS suitable for yor card's type (only you know which exactly is it - AGP or PCI-E ;) ).

rioferraz
10-15-2006, 11:37 PM
this is my powercolor x800 gto with 12 activepipelines
can i flash bios or something to increase the pps?
core R430
has anyone done that mod with success in the powercolor?http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8386/seilxt8.jpg

dolf
10-16-2006, 07:04 AM
this is my powercolor x800 gto with 12 activepipelines
can i flash bios or something to increase the pps?
core R430
has anyone done that mod with success in the powercolor?http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8386/seilxt8.jpg


No more pipes for this card :mad: .

pumee
10-16-2006, 06:52 PM
Hello,

This is my card, is it possible to unlock the reamaining 4 pipes?

Xpertvision X800 GTO 256mb 256 bit R420 core.

And could you tell me the max overclocking for the GPU, with the factory cooling system?

And my last question is:

My max mem speed is 365 MHz, the card is artifacting above that... is there any way to make it higher?


THX
:toast:

Pumee

pumee
10-16-2006, 08:09 PM
Sorry my question about the max cpu speed was a little dumb :)

My card could be overclocked to 550 MHz (from 400MHZ). Is it safe to make it work at this high speed, with the factory cooling, could it damage the card, or there's some kind of built in security to prevent damaging?

THX again!!


Pumee

stevorob
10-16-2006, 09:42 PM
No, your card is locked. I would suggest getting an aftermarket cooler if your card is running really hot. What kind of temps are you getting with ATI Tool?

dolf
10-16-2006, 10:12 PM
Sorry my question about the max cpu speed was a little dumb :)

My card could be overclocked to 550 MHz (from 400MHZ). Is it safe to make it work at this high speed, with the factory cooling, could it damage the card, or there's some kind of built in security to prevent damaging?

THX again!!


Pumee

The R420 core is designed to work at 520MHz (with 12 pipes you can even go higher) but be carefull about the temp. Probably your memory is DDR not DDR3.

pumee
10-17-2006, 07:25 AM
THX everyone!

I apologize, for some of my noob-looking questions, i didn't make the unwritten rules in the forum before posting, i should read more before asking...:nutkick: I've been a bit lasy :)... so sorry for that :)

But:

A can't see the temp window in atitool, I read that i could do something to make the temp window work, but now I'm in the office...
i've bought the card yesterday, but im not satisfied with it.:(
At the shops website thay say that this card uses gDDR3. :wtf: but it was cheap, and i don't want to buy a used card... But after this, maybe i should have...

Why do i allways have to s*ck with my vidcards? :cry:

So i think ill OC my card a bit, and see the results in the benchmarking tools...

i've read some posts abut modding the bios... And i opened the Bios with a hex editor.
in the right rows where are the texts, there is this sentece, and i don't know what can it be:

something like that: The card's power supply is not connected, plz read the quick users guide...:wtf: ??
I've connected the power supply...

thx again

And my mems on the card are Hynix 519A (i dont know now the other numbers..)

Pumee

pumee
10-17-2006, 01:50 PM
HI again!

At the store they told me that, i can take back the card (xpertvison) and they give back my money.;)

I found a used card, it's a Sapphire X800 GTO VIVO 256MB 256 bit.

Would it be better? plz post as fast as you can, the card is waiting for me!

Any ideas what to look for at the used card with the atitool?

THX

Pumee

dolf
10-17-2006, 05:32 PM
HI again!

At the store they told me that, i can take back the card (xpertvison) and they give back my money.;)

I found a used card, it's a Sapphire X800 GTO VIVO 256MB 256 bit.

Would it be better? plz post as fast as you can, the card is waiting for me!

Any ideas what to look for at the used card with the atitool?

THX

Pumee

Definitely YES. When you have it post the fuse values just in case.

pumee
10-17-2006, 07:00 PM
OK I will!

THX a lot!! :respect:

pumee
10-18-2006, 09:20 PM
Ok, I've got the card!

It's a vivo type, as i sad before...

I've overclocked it, and i could go up to 410/540 after that, the card made artifatcs.
The seller told me, that he removed the heatsink once, becouse he wanted to put on another one, but he couldn't. bit noob :) So he put back the stock one...but he didnt cleared the mems and the gpu , and put on some heatsink grease (i dont know the exact english name for that white somethin' :D) so he put it back on, with the old "grease".
So i think if I take off the heatsink and clear the mem sand gpu put on some new "grease" maybe there can be some improvements with the OC...(becouse the heatsink would be better i thought...)

Anyway, here is the atitool screenshot. As i read the forum all day :) i have had some experiences, so i think it is possible to open the remaining pipes, but i let the expert decide that...

And here are a few pics of the card, maybe that can help...
Beside, the card is red, i read somwhere that it could tell some xtra infos...(maybe im wrong :) )

Sorry for asking too much, im a bit tired of havin' shit cards:) :slap:

Which is better? the zalman vf700-cu, or the arctic ati silencer 5?

I hope you're not too tired of helpin' everyone out dear Dolf...

I'll send you a beer, Bulgaria is not so far from here...

Best wishes from Hungary!

Pumee

stevorob
10-18-2006, 09:23 PM
Whats up with those stock clocks in ATI Tool??? They're very low for an x800gto... should be 400core/490mem

Also, what core is that? R430 or R480? ATI Tool should tell you.

Also, before unlocking it, I would definitely reapply some new thermal compound if you don't at least put on aftermarket cooling. With the unlocked pipes on those cards, they do run a bit hotter than stock.

pumee
10-18-2006, 09:35 PM
Man that was a quick reply :):)

It's an R430!

And tomorrow I'll buy some thermal compound!!! But I got home at 8 oclock PM so i could not buy any, the shops were closed :(

And here are the pics!

http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0082.jpg
http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0083.jpg
http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0084.jpg
http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0085.jpg
http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0086.jpg

some of theam ar a bit blur, sorry for that...
Maybe this is not a GTO? :wtf:

I'm gonna kill somebody :banghead:

stevorob
10-18-2006, 10:22 PM
Nope, that definitely should have stock clocks of 400/490

Same card I have in another computer... I put an ATI Silencer 5 on it, got it up to 435/540ish clocks (r430 does not overclock well) and 16 pipes... temps were in the high 50s on full load

I would go with a new cooler altogether on that card... with the stock cooler on mine unlocked, I was running in the 80s at stock speeds... I hit 95 on an overclock with the stock fan... needless to say, the stock cooler is crap for unlocking and overclocking, and I suggest either a zalman vf700 - vf900 or an ATI Silencer5.

dolf has the automated bios flash utility on the site here somewhere for that card.

Here we are... http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

pumee
10-18-2006, 11:08 PM
Nope, that definitely should have stock clocks of 400/490

Same card I have in another computer... I put an ATI Silencer 5 on it, got it up to 435/540ish clocks (r430 does not overclock well) and 16 pipes... temps were in the high 50s on full load

I would go with a new cooler altogether on that card... with the stock cooler on mine unlocked, I was running in the 80s at stock speeds... I hit 95 on an overclock with the stock fan... needless to say, the stock cooler is crap for unlocking and overclocking, and I suggest either a zalman vf700 - vf900 or an ATI Silencer5.

dolf has the automated bios flash utility on the site here somewhere for that card.

Here we are... http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332


So you say its not a GTO? than WTF is it?? even the windows says that its GTO...:eek:

stevorob
10-18-2006, 11:09 PM
So you say its not a GTO? than WTF is it?? even the windows says that its GTO...:eek:

I'm not saying that it "isn't" a gto... I'm saying that the clock speeds it's running at aren't stock gto clock speeds... something is up there... and I'm not sure what.

pumee
10-18-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm not saying that it "isn't" a gto... I'm saying that the clock speeds it's running at aren't stock gto clock speeds... something is up there... and I'm not sure what.

You know its realy wierd, becouse, ther's no VIVO x800 GTO, at the sapphire's homepage...

And by the way, wich bios should i use?

stevorob
10-18-2006, 11:30 PM
The R430 AGP bios. Should be in there somewhere...

pumee
10-18-2006, 11:32 PM
The R430 AGP bios. Should be in there somewhere...

Ok, ill give a try!

wish me good luck, I'll really need it :D

pumee
10-18-2006, 11:41 PM
It seems it worked!

Atitool says 16 pipes, and the 0xA0 has changed :D

Fine :rockout:


I ran the futuremark 2005, before the pipe opening, and my score was ~4400 (OC) after the opening it become ~5000 points.

So everything is cool, tomorrow I'll buy some thermal compound, and one of the cooling systems.

Thanks for your help! It's 1AM here, and I'll have to get up at 6:30 :S

So have a nice day/night, and THX again!

stevorob
10-18-2006, 11:49 PM
Run an artifact scan and check your temps...

pumee
10-19-2006, 12:04 AM
I began one, and my temps were about 60-70 degrees Celsius. Not so bad...

THX!

Got to go!

Bye!

HeaDz
10-19-2006, 01:04 AM
Hi everybody !
First, Thanx for all tips in previous post

I'm newbie :p I have an AGP Sapphire X800GTO 256Mo 256bits since 10 months I've never overclocked it

AtiTools show me that my card get a R430 and right fuses to unclock it @16pp
http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x8002gtomd9.jpg
That's really Good ?

But ... it seems that i've a problem... my floppy disk drive is dead :cry:
Can't make a floppy boot...
So i'have to download the bootable cd by Dolf :respect: ok, but will it work for an AGP catd ?? Really universal ? contains the Sapphire x800Gto agp bios modified AND any backup ? If not could I include my Bios backup on it ?

stevorob
10-19-2006, 01:47 AM
Yeah, there is a BIOS in there for your card. R430 AGP 16pp... There should also be an original bios incase something happens on the flash (which shouldn't... dolf has made some excellent flash utilities)

HeaDz
10-19-2006, 02:22 AM
Yeah I've burn the flash bootable disc, and just try it, have not doing a flash, It appears to work really fine :D
ThanX again :respect: Dolf

But last question, should I take care about my memory type before start mod ? I know that's GDDR3 but dunno if it 1.6ns speed, or 2.0ns or other. :x How can i know wich memory is on board ? Is that important ?

And must i change the stock cooling ? with stock fan I reach up often around 60°C - 75°C ( 80°C max rarely ) in load, 33° - 38°C during normal use.



Thank for Help ^^
Pleaz God my card will not burn with this flash :(

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 07:36 AM
Just got a blue Sapphire x800gto agp 256ddr3...r480 core with 1.6ns samsung mem...tried to flash using modded flash tool, and modifying the stock bios (as per instructions from this forum) using a floppy. it would not flash the modified bios..I didn't change the name..didn't think I'd have to. It didn't write the 16 pipe bios. Any ideas/suggestions on what to do to get 16 pipes? Help is greatly appreciated!

pumee
10-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Just got a blue Sapphire x800gto agp 256ddr3...r480 core with 1.6ns samsung mem...tried to flash using modded flash tool, and modifying the stock bios (as per instructions from this forum) using a floppy. it would not flash the modified bios..I didn't change the name..didn't think I'd have to. It didn't write the 16 pipe bios. Any ideas/suggestions on what to do to get 16 pipes? Help is greatly appreciated!

I think you should printscreen your atitool settings (as it is made by many before), and I think we can help.

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 01:29 PM
I think you should printscreen your atitool settings (as it is made by many before), and I think we can help.

Not a problem...took a couple screenshots. I know it's unlockable...but the bios wouldn't overwrite....no clue why...maybe have to use another model? I'd like to try and keep it reading as a gto.

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 01:33 PM
OK, pictures didn't upload...trying again.:wtf:

stevorob
10-19-2006, 02:44 PM
Be sure you didn't write the 12pp bios back... I think that is also included in dolf's utility.

It should unlock... your fuses match. Give it another go. If not, dump your bios with ATI Tool and someone should be able to mod it for you... then just flash it back with ATI Flash.

HeaDz
10-19-2006, 05:50 PM
Even if the Fuses match 100% and core's R430, you are sure that flash will not damage the card ? If the 4 pipelines are locked its maybe due to problems with them ? Any risk to loose my GC after this flash ?

Anybody can answer at post #2455 about how can find the memory speed in nanoseconds ? plz

thx

HeaDz
10-19-2006, 05:59 PM
Just got a blue Sapphire x800gto agp 256ddr3...r480 core with 1.6ns samsung mem...tried to flash using modded flash tool, and modifying the stock bios (as per instructions from this forum) using a floppy. it would not flash the modified bios..I didn't change the name..didn't think I'd have to. It didn't write the 16 pipe bios. Any ideas/suggestions on what to do to get 16 pipes? Help is greatly appreciated!


Hi I think that x800gto by sapphire with blue pcb are FireBlade edition... and shouldn't expect to use same bioses as 'classic' x800gto with Red pcb.

Fireblade edition get particularity to have 256mo GDDR3 certified @1.6ns and R480 core as you said. If your flash works you can apply 'Xs' memory timings as GTOē editions.

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Be sure you didn't write the 12pp bios back... I think that is also included in dolf's utility.

It should unlock... your fuses match. Give it another go. If not, dump your bios with ATI Tool and someone should be able to mod it for you... then just flash it back with ATI Flash.

I checked the numbers with a hex editor, as per instructions for modding your own bios...everything matched for 16 pipes...when I tried to flash it gave me the same serial number on the bios, said it didn't erase anything. Maybe I just need another bios with a diff. serial # to mod? Here's my dumped bios as well...thanks guys.

pumee
10-19-2006, 07:08 PM
Hi!

I've put on the new cooler! (VF-700 CU).

I took off the old one, and saw, that the gpu is an x800pro, for pci-e card :wtf: with an r430chip onboard. So i don't know WTF is this card.

http://www.greenpingvin.atw.hu/down/Card/img_0087.jpg

a) So is it possibel, that the seller took off the cooler of a GTO put it on this pro VIVO and Im pretty f**cked up?

OR

b) This is some kind of a special GTO editon? (with pro GPU)?

PLZ somebody how knows the exact answer tell me something!

If the a) version is true im gonna rip of the sellers head :)

THX

Pumee

pumee
10-19-2006, 07:18 PM
Even if the Fuses match 100% and core's R430, you are sure that flash will not damage the card ? If the 4 pipelines are locked its maybe due to problems with them ? Any risk to loose my GC after this flash ?

Anybody can answer at post #2455 about how can find the memory speed in nanoseconds ? plz

thx

I've read somwhere in this forum, that if the pipes are damaged, you'll get black screen at booting. You have to restart and put back the old bios, and everything will be just fine, but the experts should confirm, that it goes like this.

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 07:23 PM
Even if the Fuses match 100% and core's R430, you are sure that flash will not damage the card ? If the 4 pipelines are locked its maybe due to problems with them ? Any risk to loose my GC after this flash ?

Anybody can answer at post #2455 about how can find the memory speed in nanoseconds ? plz

thx

I just looked at the RAM on my card, saw "GC16" then googled it. Came up with a list, and pictures, of the different ram used, and then rejoiced. So far it's Oc'd well, with core and ram doing 591 stable....never seen that happen before.

stevorob
10-19-2006, 07:25 PM
Pumee, there is nothing wrong with your card. It is a GTO. There is no special edition... most AGP GTO's have the R430 cores. Most of the R430 cores are unlockable.

You already flashed it and got 16 pipes, right? If so, then you're all set.



Cow, I'll take a look at your BIOS when I get back to my computer in the office... I'm on another station at work. I think all that has to be done is change a hex value. Why yours isn't unlocking, I don't know....

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 07:31 PM
Pumee, there is nothing wrong with your card. It is a GTO. There is no special edition... most AGP GTO's have the R430 cores. Most of the R430 cores are unlockable.

You already flashed it and got 16 pipes, right? If so, then you're all set.



Cow, I'll take a look at your BIOS when I get back to my computer in the office... I'm on another station at work. I think all that has to be done is change a hex value. Why yours isn't unlocking, I don't know....
I did just do a bios check, and it came back saying the bios was locked..maybe this has something to do with it? or am I not getting the full picture? The one value I edited was the hex value for the pipes, went from a 1 to a 0 in the editor (the one suggested to use, as it is indeed simple...especially being my first time using one).

pumee
10-19-2006, 07:43 PM
THX stevorob i really appreciate your help, im just very mistrustful when I buy something used... Yes I opened the pipes, and my temps were 58/43 with the new cooler it was way higher before, so the zalman v700cu is really a good one. thx again!
But why do they write x800 pro on the chip? and pci-e? I still dont get it :D I do believe its a GTO, and I'm satisfied with it. So im just asking...

Cow!

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332 download this file, and theres a guide in pdf format, maybe you should read it, it can help a lot! I hope It WILL help...

stevorob
10-19-2006, 08:42 PM
I think because the chips were built for PCIe. I believe the RealTo chip on the back of the AGP cards is what allows the chips to be used on the AGP bus (someone correct me if I'm wrong, not totally sure).

I think the R430 chips are used in the x850 Pros. That's why they have the Pro on it.. hell, I dunno :P

UnexplodedCow
10-19-2006, 09:37 PM
THX stevorob i really appreciate your help, im just very mistrustful when I buy something used... Yes I opened the pipes, and my temps were 58/43 with the new cooler it was way higher before, so the zalman v700cu is really a good one. thx again!
But why do they write x800 pro on the chip? and pci-e? I still dont get it :D I do believe its a GTO, and I'm satisfied with it. So im just asking...

Cow!

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332 download this file, and theres a guide in pdf format, maybe you should read it, it can help a lot! I hope It WILL help...

WOW! Thanks very much for that link Pumee....took me all of a minute to do it, all 16 pipes active...now for the tests. Oh, has anyone else tried a Zalman vf900 on their cards? I have one on mine... with 16 pipes it's idling at 37c at 400/490...and has anyone tried putting a heatsink on that realto bridge? That thing gets hot as F! I know nvidia cards have some sort of cooling on them (owned an XFX 6800xt 256ddr3 agp...). Consequently, the stock 12 pipe non-OC'd gto kept up with the oc'd nvidia (stock is 350core/1000 ram...took it to 465/1300) and beat it in some cases, and the colors are FAR better...thanks all VERY much. Go Dolf for that tool...you are simply the man....and nothing besides.

DaniTech
10-19-2006, 11:49 PM
I've attached my ATITool results for my Sapphire X800GTO.

The default clock speeds are 400MHz / 490MHz MEM.


Can the pipes be modified from 12 to 16 with my Sapphire X800GTO AGP video card?

if so could you send me the bios ? :toast:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3053/screenshot001ox8.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001ox8.jpg)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/212/screenshot002pm3.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot002pm3.jpg)

stevorob
10-20-2006, 12:06 AM
Yes your card is unlockable.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

Your bios is in there. Be sure you use the x800gto AGP R480 16pp bios.

UnexplodedCow
10-20-2006, 12:11 AM
I've attached my ATITool results for my Sapphire X800GTO.

The default clock speeds are 400MHz / 490MHz MEM.


Can the pipes be modified from 12 to 16 with my Sapphire X800GTO AGP video card?

if so could you send me the bios ? :toast:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3053/screenshot001ox8.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001ox8.jpg)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/212/screenshot002pm3.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot002pm3.jpg)

Yes, it should be unlockable, check a couple posts ago, pumee posted a link to get Dolf's tool...which works very well, good instructions.

Oh, for all who care, the card would do 591/591 core/ram at 12 pipes...does 570/594 with 16...it is stable in ati tool with the core higher than 570, but my screen went black, and I'd have to reboot, so I kept trying until it didn't...even black screened at 572, but not 570, after 18.5 minutes. Tested RAM at 594 stable for 30 minutes in ati tool...no problems. Idle temp is ~36.5c with zalman vf900...never ran stock cooler, so I don't know if this is good or not. It maxed out at 58.5c with 12 pipes and 591, and 56.5c with 16 pipes @ 570...go figure. Are these good temps for this card? Should I be reapplying the AS?

stevorob
10-20-2006, 01:08 AM
Those are pretty good temps for full load. Under 60 is good. You can try to reapply som