X800 fuses data for unlocking

[VulkanBros]

What about this one....is it looked ?

$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description : RADEON X800 Series
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 1002 (ATI)
$0000000002 Device ID : 4a4a
$0000000003 Location : bus 2, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 3.0
$0000000005 AGP status : enabled
$0000000006 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0000000007 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0000000008 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$0000000009 Base address 0 : d0000000 (memory range)
$000000000a Base address 1 : 0000c000 (I/O range)
$000000000b Base address 2 : e1000000 (memory range)
$000000000c Base address 3 : none
$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff ATI specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ---------------------------------------------------
$0900000000 Graphics core : R420 (8x1)
$0900000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0900000001 Memory type : DDR3 SGRAM
$0900000003 Memory amount : 256MB
$0900000004 Core clock : 425.250MHz
$0900000005 Memory clock : 398.250MHz (796.500MHz effective)
$0900000006 Reference clock : 27.000MHz

[neologan]

Connect3D X800 GTO, looking at the core it doesn't say R480, it just says X800.

Is this moddable?

[dolf]

Your results are interesting and I supose that you have R423 with laer-cut from the right. Left has to be still connected. One quad should be disabled but it is not like on the other cards. If you want it is better to remove the cooler and to inspect what is under.
If I am right you should connect the right cut and to conduct again the fuse research. Probably you can have 16 pipes but who knows?

You also can preliminary flash with 16 pipe BIOS and to see whether 16 pipes will work but I am not very convinced that it will happend unless you don't hardmod it:) .

Good luck.

[Thermopylae_480]

MSI RX800 R430 GPU

CONGFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG SUBSTRATE FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12B84

[Steevo]

X800GTO AGP
Sapphire

I haven't maxed out the memory yet, but.

Core 454
Mem 540


Scored 4915 3Dmark05

Intel Prescott 2.8 OC'ed to 3.0 533 MHZ FSB
1Gb Corsair Value RAM @ 333
Intel 865 PERL mobo
2) 120GB Maxtor DM9 in RAID 0
X800GTO Sapphire AGP
Onboard sound



I am selling my compy to the company in the next couple months, will be upgrading to a AMD64 and X1800XT 2GB RAM system. Just bought this card for some extra HW support in the next two months.

Anyway, any ideas on unlockability? I have flashed a 9800PRO (after many tried BIOS's and re-writing one of my own), changed the cooler, and OC'd the piss out of my 9600XT.

[Steevo]

OK, tomorrow I will pull the card, remove the cooler and check the core for number, and laser cuts. But it appears that these later X800GTO's AGP CAN be modded.

At least that is what I am reading, from the hex. 1 quad is disabled and the core is seen as a R430 by BIOS configuration.

A better cooler is needed for higher clock speeds. Sapphire uses higher quality memory so you are good there. I have taken my memory speed up to 600Mhz and it performs fine.

[Sibic]

The Sapphire X800GTO's can be clocked extremely high. I have mine running 400 @ 607 on the core and 490 @ 621 on the memory, and it's stable. I would highly recomend getting something other than the stock cooler if you plan running it that high, because mine got close to 90 degrees with speeds that were much much lower than thoose, and even thoo it can run on 90 degrees it's certainly not healthy. I have a Zalman 700 copper on mine, and it's about 65 degrees after a few hours of gaming, with 100% on the fanspeed.

[Steevo]

I have gotten errors at 460 core but it is running very warm. I don't want to change the cooler as this is a temp fix untill I get a new system. And I will be selling the card to a friend and putting the 9600XT back in when I sell this system.

I also have RAMsinks to apply yet and will be changing the TIM to AC5 and redirecting the air flow. RIght now my front 120mm pushes a mixture of warm air from the card and cool incoming air back into the card. I am going to add a chute to move it out a empty slot in the back.

I will have to move my disassembly back to Sat, as the lady of the house demands my time tonight. I expect that there will be some indecent and lewd activity, so the compy loses. ;)

[carlo_mpg]

Here`s my Powercolor X800GTO 256 GDDR3 VIVO PCIE can it be moddified??

haven`t verified the core.

thx!

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5340/x800gtoatitool8hc.jpg

[Steevo]

OK, after removing my coolers and whatnot.


ATI R430 core
Infineon Memory
No laser cuts anywhere.

And according to the BIOS I have a quad locked in there.


It is a Sapphire X800GTO AGP DDR3
With a output of
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12B84

Using 5.10 ATI drivers I have achieved an OC of

Core 465
Mem 560

Stable. Any more on the core and I get a lockup. 4951 scored on 3Dmark05.

And here is the BIOS

[decline]

this is one of those c3d x800 gto unlockable :banghead:

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/1024/c3d1tn.jpg

[Steevo]

Anyone want to mod my BIOS so I can get my last 4 pipes and mebey a little more OC'ing room?


If I ask really nice?

[ShadowFlare]

Anyone want to mod my BIOS so I can get my last 4 pipes and mebey a little more OC'ing room?


If I ask really nice?
Here is a 16 pipeline modded bios, but that's all I can do for you. I don't know of any way to mod the bios to help with overclocking.

[Steevo]

Thanks.

[Sapphire]

Here is my cards info from under the cooler

gpu:
215rbmaga12f
gc9007.1
0438ss

Memory:
Samsunhg 531
k4j55323qf-gc20
awe385gaa

is this card unlockable???
and what core do i have? is it a 438???

cheers

[Steevo]

Still 12 pipes. Still is only identifying as a X800

I am going to compare a BIOS from a AGP X800XT to this one and see what I get in difference. I know the memory is different. But the rest might be what is holding it back.


4970 3Dmark05 now


The AC5 made a difference, now I can get the core up to 470.

[ShadowFlare]

Still 12 pipes. Still is only identifying as a X800

I am going to compare a BIOS from a AGP X800XT to this one and see what I get in difference. I know the memory is different. But the rest might be what is holding it back.


4970 3Dmark05 now


The AC5 made a difference, now I can get the core up to 470.
If you flashed that bios right, then your gpu isn't unlockable with just a bios flash. Are you talking about find differences in bioses to figure out how to unlock it or just how to improve overclocking by using another bios?

[Sapphire]

Here is my cards info from under the cooler

gpu:
215rbmaga12f
gc9007.1
0438ss

Memory:
Samsunhg 531
k4j55323qf-gc20
awe385gaa

is this card unlockable???
and what core do i have? is it a 438???

cheers


can anyone help me please?

[Megatron]

It looks hard locked from those figures.

[leodaso]

ATI X850 Pro VIVO AGP with laser lock on core bridged and X850 Pro VIVO 16 pipe modded bios.

ATI Tool still shows 12 pipes in use. What else can I try? Or am I just wasting my time?

[ShadowFlare]

ATI X850 Pro VIVO AGP with laser lock on core bridged and X850 Pro VIVO 16 pipe modded bios.

ATI Tool still shows 12 pipes in use. What else can I try? Or am I just wasting my time?
There is nothing else you can do without doing some modding of the actual hardware. A last digit of zero in CONFIG_ROM_FUSES means that no pipeline quads are locked in the bios. Since you have a zero there, it means that you did get the 16 pipeline bios flashed correctly.

[pao-lini]

Hi,

I have just buyed a X800 GTO and with Ati Tool i see that i have 12 pipe and lasercut, i try to flash bios with X800gto2 modified and flash run Ok, i have 0x260 but always 12 pipe, in this case the 4 pipe are lasercut, i can i hardmod and re-attach the pipe ?, may someone help me ? please send in forum photos with indicated the lasercut to re-attach and i try !!!
Thank you very much
Paolo

[h2o]

Hello!
i have SVGA 256Mb <PCI-E> DDR Sapphire Ultimate Edition <ATI RADEON X800 GTO> (OEM) 256bit +DVI+TV Out GDDR3
It has 12 active pipelines and samsung 2.0 memory and R480 chip
standart 390 GPU/490 memory
i tryed to overclock it and i have on stable 580 GPU and 545 Memory. Memory - on max. after 545 - artifacts going on display. But GPU works with 600 and more, but it works short time and then display going dark, then black, and then my PC is hang up. Temperature was about 40-50 C. Is it because i have 12 active pipelines instead 16?

So, can i make 16 active pipelines?

ATITool 25 beta 8 shoes me
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF E FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFF E
and next 2 strings also enother then in http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

When i plug my card into PC and starts XP, it said "Radeon X850 series".

Please help to unlock my card!!!
Thx forward... sory for bad english... russia forever!

[dolf]

Sorry but with these fuse results you will not have 16 pipes :o .

[carlo_mpg]

what about my card? nobody has given me any answer...posted config and nothing...

i don+t have the F`s in the strings...does this mean I can`t? thankx

here is the picture..

[dolf]

The same for you - no chance to have 16 pipes :o .

[Steevo]

The identity in the X800XL BIOS seems to be just that. X800XL, by looking at it in a hex editor.

My BIOS is still identifying as a X800. I tried to change it around and got a corrupt BIOS according to Rabit. What can I do differently to change it, or could anyone else try?

I have seen X800XL's out there with infineon memory, so I know that it is possible. This might or might not be the fix for it.

[carlo_mpg]

The same for you - no chance to have 16 pipes :o .

I still don`t understand why since X800XL has the same R430 core and has 16pipes enabled.

Does this mean that are some R430 cores that may have damaged pipes and used as X800`s?

will try to take out the heat sink to be sure..

thanks

[Deathduo]

this my first post
HIS X800GTO ICEQ2 TURBO 256/256BIT
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/377/hisx800gto6bm.gif

i am already do the flash thing like in this article X800 GTO and GTO² to X850 XT Mod (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127/2)

i even try to flash it with X850XT but the pipelines still 12 , is it my card locked ?? :confused:

sorry if my english wasnt good enough :o

thanks before

[dolf]

No chance to have 16 pipes with these fuses. Sorry :shadedshu .

[mtosev]

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8269/x8009ka.png

Sapphire X800 XT PE AGP

[Thermopylae_480]

The identity in the X800XL BIOS seems to be just that. X800XL, by looking at it in a hex editor.

My BIOS is still identifying as a X800. I tried to change it around and got a corrupt BIOS according to Rabit. What can I do differently to change it, or could anyone else try?

I have seen X800XL's out there with infineon memory, so I know that it is possible. This might or might not be the fix for it.

If your using ATIFlash try using the -newbios command in your command set. i.e.
(C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 (BIOS File Name).bin)

[lodoss118]

hi iam having problem enabling 16 pipes on my connect3d x850 pro 256mb agp it appears i have no laser cut and also i thinking have the samsung mem also it is a vivo edition

here r my rom fuses note its alreayd flashed to a xt pe bios but it is still sying 12 pipes in ati tool i tried both flashrom and atiflash and tried the empty bios first etc


http://hafeez.bulldoghome.com/pages/hafeez_bulldoghome_com/untitled.JPG

[Steevo]

If your using ATIFlash try using the -newbios command in your command set. i.e.
(C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 (BIOS File Name).bin)


A:\ atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 modbios.bin

Does it matter where the -newbios command is located?

The config shows a change of 0XA61 to 0XA60. The BIOS update was successful, but the pipes are still not unlocked.

[lodoss118]

???

[ShadowFlare]

hi iam having problem enabling 16 pipes on my connect3d x850 pro 256mb agp it appears i have no laser cut and also i thinking have the samsung mem also it is a vivo edition

here r my rom fuses note its alreayd flashed to a xt pe bios but it is still sying 12 pipes in ati tool i tried both flashrom and atiflash and tried the empty bios first etc

As I've mentioned in my previous posts about the last digit of the CONFIG_ROM_FUSES value, if it is a zero and you still haven't unlocked any pipelines, you can't unlock them that way. The zero at the end means no pipelines are locked in the bios. The meaning of the last digit is as follows:

0 = no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (16 pipelines)
1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines)
2 = 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (8 pipelines)
3 = 3 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (4 pipelines)

The CONFIG_ROM_FUSES value is in the bios, and I've tested all 4 of these values on my card and confirmed them to be correct.

W1zzard, could you please add this info to the first post in this thread?

[idanp]

My Gigabyte X800XL...:)

http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/1736/fdfdfdf3iw.jpg

[h2o]

ShadowFlare, dolf said that i cant unlock 16 pipeline, but if trust to your last post - i can do it!
i have repeated myself:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF E FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFF E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261 - last is 1!!! (1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines))
GB_PIPE SELECT

so that means that i can unlock?

1015

[Sapphire]

As I've mentioned in my previous posts about the last digit of the CONFIG_ROM_FUSES value, if it is a zero and you still haven't unlocked any pipelines, you can't unlock them that way. The zero at the end means no pipelines are locked in the bios. The meaning of the last digit is as follows:

0 = no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (16 pipelines)
1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines)
2 = 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (8 pipelines)
3 = 3 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (4 pipelines)

The CONFIG_ROM_FUSES value is in the bios, and I've tested all 4 of these values on my card and confirmed them to be correct.

W1zzard, could you please add this info to the first post in this thread?

ShadowFlare,

As i am new to this scene please be patient with me :D

In my case CONFIG_ROM_FUSES ends in 2 (0x862), according to your above post this means that 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios, if this is the case can these pipeline quads be unlocked with a bios flash or by any other means?

Thank you for your help...

[dolf]

For 16 pipes you can forget. But please try with 12 pipes modd and post feedback. The first two registers show a hardware-level lock (in fact disconnection of power supply). It can't be overcomed (I have tried to fix but no chance - very simple but very effective method of protection).
The fuse research is only tool which shows whether such disconnection is done for the specific core or not. It is 100% correct and with no exceptions. Other thing is how the results are interpreted.

[lodoss118]

yes but it had a 1 before, the pic i showed is already flashed and now it hows a 0 but still says 12 pipes i.e i had this before 0xA61 becasue i already flashed it with xt pe bios i get 0xA60

[h2o]

please somone answer my previous post!

[DarkTrooper]

Hi I just took a shot of my Fuse Data... (see attachment )
Its a R481 Core and 12 pipes, the "CONFIG_ROM_FUSES " is "0x861" this ends up in a 1 if I have read correctly this means there is one quad of pipes deaktivated in the bios...
I though the 2.0ns X850Pro VIVO were unmodable (laser cut) does this mean they are just also disabled in the BIOS or that they are just disabled in the bios and can be :respect: unlocked ?

Greetz :rockout:

Marc

[Shyska]

Hi I just took a shot of my Fuse Data... (see attachment )
Its a R481 Core and 12 pipes, the "CONFIG_ROM_FUSES " is "0x861" this ends up in a 1 if I have read correctly this means there is one quad of pipes deaktivated in the bios...
I though the 2.0ns X850Pro VIVO were unmodable (laser cut) does this mean they are just also disabled in the BIOS or that they are just disabled in the bios and can be :respect: unlocked ?

Greetz :rockout:

Marc

flash your card with any usable (~similar clocks , same connection type and memory) bios which has 16 pipes (use atiflash with -newbios option), then flash your normal bios back (this time don't use -newbios option). You will see if that helps to unlock your card.

[DarkTrooper]

So the flash is the only way to find out (besides looking under the cooler)...
If I use the BIOS of an XT and flash back the PRO bios, the memory timings and clock speeds of the pro will be used again, correct ? (I thing the 540 for the mem is too much for the 2.0ns modules, I got around 535 without trouble using the ati tool though).


Thx for the tipps

Marc

[ShadowFlare]

As I've mentioned many times before, getting a zero at the end of CONFIG_ROM_FUSES when you don't already have one does NOT mean that you will get 16 pipelines! It just means they are no longer locked by the bios. Locks in the bios and locks in the hardware are independent of each other. To get 16 pipelines, you need to have no locks in either of them.

[dolf]

DarkTrooper, you can try with BIOS flashing but you won't have 16 pipes with these fuse results unfortunately :shadedshu .

Please tell us from where did you buy this card and when exactly it is produced? (Look the version of the drivers on the original CD)

I am asking because this card is different from the "normal" X850PRO VIVO which is or was 100% unlockable. Usualy these (AGP) PRO's are in fact XT which doesn't pass the test-requirements for XT card but still with 1.6ns memory.

[Dzhigit]

1020
Asus EAX800XL 256M

[Steevo]

There is a driver lock that ATI uses also. It involves changing the Subvendor and Device ID.

[Shyska]

There is a driver lock that ATI uses also. It involves changing the Subvendor and Device ID.

and how to change these?

[Steevo]

I am looking into it.

[h2o]

people, please see my question in #288...

[maccrow]

Powercolor X800GT 256-256 8P.

In Everest show R423 SE PCI-E but I think its a R480.

My memos show

Samsung 522
K4J55323QF GC16

Here is my fuse:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2295/x800gtpowercolor7xj.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800gtpowercolor7xj.jpg)

[SPHERE]

ShadowFlare, dolf said that i cant unlock 16 pipeline, but if trust to your last post - i can do it!
i have repeated myself:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF E FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFF E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261 - last is 1!!! (1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines))
GB_PIPE SELECT

so that means that i can unlock?

1015
what card?

[SPHERE]

Powercolor X800GT 256-256 8P.

In Everest show R423 SE PCI-E but I think its a R480.

My memos show

Samsung 522
K4J55323QF GC16

Here is my fuse:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2295/x800gtpowercolor7xj.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800gtpowercolor7xj.jpg) there is a slight chance of 12 pipes but your swrewed as far as 16 is conserned .:(

[h2o]

My card is SVGA 256Mb <PCI-E> DDR Sapphire Ultimate Edition <ATI RADEON X800 GTO> (OEM) 256bit +DVI+TV Out (R480)
i repeated myself again:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF E FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFF E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261 - last is 1!!! (1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines))
GB_PIPE SELECT

so that means that i can unlock?
or
if i try to rewrite new flash bios in my card, it will not kill my card?

[dolf]

H2O, see post 290 and understand that NO way to have 16 pipes. Of course sorry for that but life is cruel :shadedshu .

[h2o]

if i try to rewrite flash, if it no helps to me, if i still will have 12 pipelines - will my card work how it must work, or will i have many artifacts or i kill my card if i rewrite flash bios?

I wanna try... and i want to know what will be if i do it...

p.s. CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261 - last is 1!!! (1 = 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (12 pipelines))
- that is not to me? it is not for my card?

[SPHERE]

h20 you have a locked pipe quad that is likely bad and is certantly not unlockable :(

sry :(

[h2o]

ok i try and then tell about it here if unlock will be seccesfully.

Before i try it, please someone tell me... if will be something wrong...if i rewrite flash bios... will my card work or my card can die?
Can i kill my card if i rewrite flash bios form http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

[SPHERE]

ok i try and then tell about it here if unlock will be seccesfully.

Before i try it, please someone tell me... if will be something wrong...if i rewrite flash bios... will my card work or my card can die?
Can i kill my card if i rewrite flash bios form http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127
yes if you flash the wrong bios you can kill your card.. :(

[maccrow]

there is a slight chance of 12 pipes but your swrewed as far as 16 is conserned .:(


just flashing the bios ? What bios I use ?

tks!

[SPHERE]

just flashing the bios ? What bios I use ?

tks!
x850xt as long as your shure it's a r480 :) be shure to use a pcie bios. :)

use the moded flashrom ;)
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

[maccrow]

Well ... Then I have to use this bios:

X850 XT Non-VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB

I´ll confirm the core and come back.

[h2o]

i have SVGA 256Mb <PCI-E> DDR Sapphire Ultimate Edition <ATI RADEON X800 GTO> (OEM) 256bit +DVI+TV Out and SAMSUNG 2.0 RAM R480
is an unlocked Bios file: Sapphire X800 GTOІ in page http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127/2 (where bios file is
Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin) will work in my card? or i need to find some differend bios file for my card? (for example Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung20_DVI_TVOUT.bin).
Please tell me where i can find it, or i can use Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin?????????

[DarkTrooper]

@ Dolf:
Its a Connect3D X850Pro AGP VIVO @ 2.0ns, purchased on 02 November '05.
The driver setup on the CD is dated August 5 '05 (the newest files in the driver DIR are 14 September '05). Seems very new. I have heard of this in an other Forum, that very new Cards seem too have the 2.0ns modules, could be because they now wont to sell the X1xxx Family cards.
I got this card at www.xada.de because they had trouble geting a hold of the MSI card I orderd and so offerd me this card, since it was on stock (unfourtunatley they werent abel to tell me what speed the memory is, even though they tried and I can understand that they didnt wont to ripp open all the packages to look).

Hope this helps...

marc

[maccrow]

Yes, my core is R480.

There some more information

ATI R480
215RBQAGA11F
GF5029.1 0512aa
Taiwan

I hope this info are useful.

Tks again.

[dolf]

DarkTrooper, if you can return that card and look for older X850PRO VIVO (AGP) wich is originally build to be XT or XT PE (CAN be modded) but something does wrong after assembling of the card and the producer turns it to PRO VIVO.

In the last days some producers want to make a clean sweep of available R480's and "invent" X850PRO VIVO with 2.0ns memory and locked cores on AGP which means that we should choose very carefully ;).

[Kotbrot]

connect3D Radeon X800GTO TDV (< VIVO ?) 256MB GDDR3 Samsung 2.0ns
(bought at FortKnox.de , Germany)

http://kotbrot.lima-city.de/fuses.JPG

Flashed to 16pp with flashrom and BIOS from this Page. I was scared when I saw the fuses date in ATiTool first, but then remembered that the Pic showed in flash instructions was from X850XT PE :D . Checked the "F's" another time and : wow! Flash success.
Thanks a lot !

[dolf]

DarkTrooper look the right-top of the back side of your card. Haw many chips you have there 8 or 6?

[maccrow]

x850xt as long as your shure it's a r480 :) be shure to use a pcie bios. :)

use the moded flashrom ;)
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip


Sphere ... my memo are samsung 1.6 and the collection have just samsung 2.0.

What bios I must use ?

I try the X850 XT PE (PCI-E) 256 MB but didn´t work, still 8 pipeline. I must try this X850 XT Non-VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB or use a X800 Pro VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB ?

[ShadowFlare]

Sphere ... my memo are samsung 1.6 and the collection have just samsung 2.0.

What bios I must use ?

I try the X850 XT PE (PCI-E) 256 MB but didn´t work, still 8 pipeline. I must try this X850 XT Non-VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB or use a X800 Pro VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB ?
You aren't going to get 16 pipelines by flashing the bios. I looked at your picture of the fuses data that you posted and your bios already does not have any pipelines disabled there. Based on that, I'd say with 100% certainty that they are locked in the hardware.

Use one of the bioses from this thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056 While using any X850 bios will get the performance boost I mentioned, the ones I posted I know to use the same fan speeds and memory timings as your card (especially the one that is just a modded Powercolor X800 GT bios), so they are least likely to cause you problems.

[CoNtr@]

Thanks to all for all the great info on here, it truly was a deciding factor when I purchased my card.

I have an ATI X850Pro AGP. Bought this from ebay from dealtree techstore on 11/2/05 (just do a search for x850pro and a ton will pop up). It was an openbox item (looks like it was a Best Buy return based on the "Best Buy" inspection tape on the box). These cards have been going for $175-$190 and there are plenty on there. Looks like I lucked out and got an unlockable one. The fifth charachter in Die fuses is F, and the last charachter in subrate is F. Last number in ROM fuses is 1.

from what I understand, alot of the newer cards are comming Die on locked. If you are looking, don't be afraid to take a chance on open box items, as most have been returned to and inspected by ATI. Just make sure that the seller has a fairly liberal return policy just in case.

I havent tried to unlock yet, but I will soon and I will post the results. Thanks again to all of you modders that help noobs like me get the most for my money :rockout:

[SPHERE]

Thanks to all for all the great info on here, it truly was a deciding factor when I purchased my card.

I have an ATI X850Pro AGP. Bought this from ebay from dealtree techstore on 11/2/05 (just do a search for x850pro and a ton will pop up). It was an openbox item (looks like it was a Best Buy return based on the "Best Buy" inspection tape on the box). These cards have been going for $175-$190 and there are plenty on there. Looks like I lucked out and got an unlockable one. The fifth charachter in Die fuses is F, and the last charachter in subrate is F. Last number in ROM fuses is 1.

from what I understand, alot of the newer cards are comming Die on locked. If you are looking, don't be afraid to take a chance on open box items, as most have been returned to and inspected by ATI. Just make sure that the seller has a fairly liberal return policy just in case.

I havent tried to unlock yet, but I will soon and I will post the results. Thanks again to all of you modders that help noobs like me get the most for my money :rockout:
looks unlockable dude :)

[SPHERE]

Sphere ... my memo are samsung 1.6 and the collection have just samsung 2.0.

What bios I must use ?

I try the X850 XT PE (PCI-E) 256 MB but didn´t work, still 8 pipeline. I must try this X850 XT Non-VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB or use a X800 Pro VIVO (PCI-E) 256 MB ?

yah i'm with shadowflare but i don't agree with him for the same reasons i think yours won't unlock cause gt's rarely do but i'm not 100% so i'd say don't give up yet ;)

don't use a x800xt/pro bios on that they use a different core use a x850 so there is no chance of getting a bad flash. :) (make shure it's a pcie x850 though ;))

so you already tried the x850 and it didn't unlock the pipes and your are shure you used the moded flashrom? if this is true then i'd say you are screwed :( sry dude :(

[lodoss118]

hi got a question how can i change the other registers values, can someone change them for me like the ones in the first post

[ShadowFlare]

yah i'm with shadowflare but i don't agree with him for the same reasons i think yours won't unlock cause gt's rarely do but i'm not 100% so i'd say don't give up yet ;)

don't use a x800xt/pro bios on that they use a different core use a x850 so there is no chance of getting a bad flash. :) (make shure it's a pcie x850 though ;))

so you already tried the x850 and it didn't unlock the pipes and your are shure you used the moded flashrom? if this is true then i'd say you are screwed :( sry dude :(
Yes, it might be unlockable, but based on the information given, it shouldn't be unlockable just by flashing the bios, since it should already be unlocked if it was possible to unlock it that way. A hardware mod might be able to unlock it, though.

Of course, there's no reason someone couldn't try flashing the bios on a card that isn't unlockable to possibly get an increase in performance as a result of things other than unlocking pipelines. As demonstrated with the Powercolor X800 GT, such a thing can happen.

hi got a question how can i change the other registers values, can someone change them for me like the ones in the first post
You would have to ask W1zzard on that one, but I'm pretty sure that out of the values for the fuses data shown by ATITool, only CONFIG_ROM_FUSES is directly stored in the bios.

[maccrow]

so you already tried the x850 and it didn't unlock the pipes and your are shure you used the moded flashrom? if this is true then i'd say you are screwed :( sry dude :(


Yeah, I triead and don´t get the 12 pipes.... :banghead:

But i´m cool ... i´m happy with 7% from the R480 bios :toast:

Tks a lot !

[h2o]

i have SVGA 256Mb <PCI-E> DDR Sapphire Ultimate Edition <ATI RADEON X800 GTO> (OEM) 256bit +DVI+TV Out and SAMSUNG 2.0 RAM R480
is an unlocked Bios file: Sapphire X800 GTOІ in page http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/.../vidcard/127/2 (where bios file is
Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin) will work in my card? or i need to find some differend bios file for my card? (for example Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung20_DVI_TVOUT.bin).
Please tell me where i can find it, or i can use Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin?????????

[CoNtr@]

Well, partial success!

I managed to flash to an x850xt pe bios with fan control enabled and unlock 16 pipes. BUT when I did a restart, my temps went to hades and back. I was idling 75 degrees and underload it got up to 99 degrees before I aborted artifact scanning for fear of burning the card up. I backed the clock down to stock speed of 500/500 and it did not affect the temps, they were still high!

The thing I dont get is that I tested the card for an hour at xtpe speeds before I flashed to 16 pipes with no problems and the temp never exceeded about 72 degrees. As soon as I flashed to 16 pipes and the xtpe bios, the temp skyrocketed, even with the card underclocked. I do not understand this. Anyone have any idea why this might have happened?

Anyhow, I flashed back to an x850pro bios with 16 pipes enabled and all is well. Idle 40 degrees and load no more than 75. Maybe an arctic cooler will allow me to go back to the XTPE bios. But if anyone has any idea what may have caused the rediculous temps with the xtpe bios please do tell :)

[eckybud]

Hi wizzard i just got an x800xt agp card what can i do to it I.E. flash to an xtpe???

[Megatron]

Well, partial success!

I managed to flash to an x850xt pe bios with fan control enabled and unlock 16 pipes. BUT when I did a restart, my temps went to hades and back. I was idling 75 degrees and underload it got up to 99 degrees before I aborted artifact scanning for fear of burning the card up. I backed the clock down to stock speed of 500/500 and it did not affect the temps, they were still high!

The thing I dont get is that I tested the card for an hour at xtpe speeds before I flashed to 16 pipes with no problems and the temp never exceeded about 72 degrees. As soon as I flashed to 16 pipes and the xtpe bios, the temp skyrocketed, even with the card underclocked. I do not understand this. Anyone have any idea why this might have happened?

Anyhow, I flashed back to an x850pro bios with 16 pipes enabled and all is well. Idle 40 degrees and load no more than 75. Maybe an arctic cooler will allow me to go back to the XTPE bios. But if anyone has any idea what may have caused the rediculous temps with the xtpe bios please do tell :)

I think the xt pe bios enables higher default voltages running through the card.

@eckybud
I believe u have 16pipes already with an xt ( or even if it was an xl ) so why not just overclock using a o/c tool, no need to flash bios.

[ShadowFlare]

Well, partial success!

I managed to flash to an x850xt pe bios with fan control enabled and unlock 16 pipes. BUT when I did a restart, my temps went to hades and back. I was idling 75 degrees and underload it got up to 99 degrees before I aborted artifact scanning for fear of burning the card up. I backed the clock down to stock speed of 500/500 and it did not affect the temps, they were still high!

The thing I dont get is that I tested the card for an hour at xtpe speeds before I flashed to 16 pipes with no problems and the temp never exceeded about 72 degrees. As soon as I flashed to 16 pipes and the xtpe bios, the temp skyrocketed, even with the card underclocked. I do not understand this. Anyone have any idea why this might have happened?

Anyhow, I flashed back to an x850pro bios with 16 pipes enabled and all is well. Idle 40 degrees and load no more than 75. Maybe an arctic cooler will allow me to go back to the XTPE bios. But if anyone has any idea what may have caused the rediculous temps with the xtpe bios please do tell :)
From what I've seen, the X850 XT PE bios uses much lower fan speeds (< 5% at idle, I think). That's very likely the reason it was getting hotter. I tried it sometime after I installed a Zalman VF700-AlCu on my card, so it actually wasn't changing the fan speeds.

[CoNtr@]

I think the xt pe bios enables higher default voltages running through the card.


From what I've seen, the X850 XT PE bios uses much lower fan speeds (< 5% at idle, I think). That's very likely the reason it was getting hotter. I tried it sometime after I installed a Zalman VF700-AlCu on my card, so it actually wasn't changing the fan speeds.

Both of those conclusions make perfect sense. I tried running the fan up to 100% but the temp kept rising and rising fast. I am running now at XTPE speeds on the x850Pro bios w/16 enabled and am scoring a shade over 5700 in 3DMark05.

I think i'll order aftermarket cooling and try the xtpe bios again just for fun. Thanks for the help guys, its really appreciated.

By the way, does anyone have a preference with aftermarket cooling solutions? Should I go with the ATI Silencer or the Zalman?

[SPHERE]

I think the xt pe bios enables higher default voltages running through the card.

@eckybud
I believe u have 16pipes already with an xt ( or even if it was an xl ) so why not just overclock using a o/c tool, no need to flash bios.
no they both use the sam e voltage the only ati cards out that i know of with voltage that is adjustable through the bios is the x1000 series :)

[DarkTrooper]

@dolf: (deepends on the way you look at the card ) pluged into the agp port, there are 8 ( 2 sets of 4 with 8 pins) chips in the lower left corner on the back side of the card ....


Greetz

Marc

[sniviler]

besides core and memory speeds being different between the cards the TRP memory timing on the x850pro is 6 and the xt/xtpe is 5.

maybe higher clock speeds require lower latancy to keep the pipes full.

[eckybud]

I think the xt pe bios enables higher default voltages running through the card.

@eckybud
I believe u have 16pipes already with an xt ( or even if it was an xl ) so why not just overclock using a o/c tool, no need to flash bios.


Ye it has the 16 pipes and runs 500 / 500 i was thinking of trying to up it to pe speeds and if all ok stick a cooler on it and hard mode it. Im havin a bit of a trip with the drivers dont know whats best not impressed with the card as it is just now any ideas??
cheers Eck.

[lodoss118]

umh can anyone answer my question is it possible to change the other register settings if so can anyone do it for me

[eckybud]

Ye it has the 16 pipes and runs 500 / 500 i was thinking of trying to up it to pe speeds and if all ok stick a cooler on it and hard mode it. Im havin a bit of a trip with the drivers dont know whats best not impressed with the card as it is just now any ideas??
cheers Eck.

Ok ive been mucking around with my drivers and noticed in catalyst 5.10 and others my agp speed is at 0 when i select 8x and reboot its back to 0?????????? anybody know whats up???

[Sir_Mendoza]

I sure hope I can turn this one into a monster ;)

Sapphire RADEON X800GTO FireBlade Edition R423

It has the "F"'s but I dont think it's a gto2 though.... :confused:

Would be real nice if you could come to the rescue here W1zzard :)

[dolf]

Nice you will have your monster R423 card :) .

[h2o]

SomeOne tell me only what i need to know? Only next:

i have SVGA 256Mb <PCI-E> DDR Sapphire Ultimate Edition <ATI RADEON X800 GTO> (OEM) 256bit +DVI+TV Out and SAMSUNG 2.0 RAM R480
is an unlocked Bios file: Sapphire X800 GTO² in page http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/.../vidcard/127/2 (where bios file is
Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin) will work in my card? or i need to find some differend bios file for my card? (for example Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung20_DVI_TVOUT.bin).
Please tell me where i can find it, or i can use Sapphire.X800GTO2_16P.Samsung16.bin?????????

[h2o]

?

[dolf]

H2O your fuses show that you will NOT have 16 pipes even flashing the BIOS. Sorry to say that but it is true :shadedshu . You can change the number of the active pipes in your original BIOS and to re-flash it but it won't help you.

[lodoss118]

why am i being ignored is such a hard question???

[ShadowFlare]

why am i being ignored is such a hard question???
I already gave you an answer.

hi got a question how can i change the other registers values, can someone change them for me like the ones in the first post
You would have to ask W1zzard on that one, but I'm pretty sure that out of the values for the fuses data shown by ATITool, only CONFIG_ROM_FUSES is directly stored in the bios.

[lodoss118]

lol sorry

[locoty]

my vard (video card, my abbreviation :) ) is HIS X800GT IceQ Turbo, 2.0ns samsung,i'm not sure whether it has R423 or R480

in ATItool shows

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X19940

can i mod it to 12 pipeline..
pls help me

[Timoteo]

Hi

My card MSI Rx800SE

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x25650

THX for the info.

[SPHERE]

Hi

My card MSI Rx800SE

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x25650

THX for the info.

CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22X <isn't there something here? :)

my vard (video card, my abbreviation :) ) is HIS X800GT IceQ Turbo, 2.0ns samsung,i'm not sure whether it has R423 or R480

in ATItool shows

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X19940

can i mod it to 12 pipeline..
pls help mepossibly :)
pm shadowflare and have him unlock the pipes in your bios then use the moded flasrom to flash the bios back to the card :)

[wano]

well, i just bought my sapphire x800gto, and i have been playing a lot with clocks, actually i did 5800 3dmark05, but i want the pipes.... is there eany way?

here a screenshot from atitool and my code, if any1 could tell me anyway to unlock the pipes please it would be great...

sry if my english sux but im from chile hahaha...

http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/6191/dibujo1mq.th.jpg (http://img287.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujo1mq.jpg)

greetings and please help my vga reach 6500 in 3dmark05 jeje

[SPHERE]

^ looks like your ****** :( sry dude :(

[whyze]

Sapphire GTO2 X800

I tried the mod but see no difference..?

Active Pipelines: 12
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X261
Chip Type R80

Am I missing something?
Followed the instructions, seemed to work fine...no error messages..

[SPHERE]

you still have a pipe locked in your bios you probibly used the non moded flashrom you need the moded one :)

[ShadowFlare]

CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22X <isn't there something here? :)
Not all necessarily have to be 3 digits; just most of the ones I had seen were.

[Timoteo]

Hi SPHERE and thanks for all your hard work

CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22X <sin't there something here? :)


No there is only 2 digits.... I write exactly what i was...
:)

[locoty]

Hello sphere

mine shows this

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X19940

HIS X800GT ICEQ Turbo
i don't want to open the HSF so how can i know the core that the card use. is it possible to see it from the bios card

[SPHERE]

Hi SPHERE and thanks for all your hard work

CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22X <sin't there something here? :)


No there is only 2 digits.... I write exactly what i was...
:)
ok :)

well you may have 4 pipes unlockable but it can't tell the only way to find out is to try and unlock them :)

pm shadowflare and he can help you unlock your bios to 16 pipes and that may or may not unlock 4 more pipes :) (use moded flashrom to flash)

Hello sphere

mine shows this

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFF9FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X19940

HIS X800GT ICEQ Turbo
i don't want to open the HSF so how can i know the core that the card use. is it possible to see it from the bios card
hi :)

well looks like you need to do the same thing aswell to find out if you have a chance of 12 pipes :)

give shadowflare a ring (pm) he is pretty good with unlocking the pipes in the bios :) lets just hope that they are also unlocked on the card aswell :)

[SigmaNL]

hi new too this scene :)

the readout i got from AtiTool
http://forum.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1050&stc=1&d=1131978224

is this an unlockable card?
i readed the threat completely but i am confused by all those numbers :eek:
maybe there is an table for it wich explain in dummy language if its modable or not.

thank in advance

SigmaNL

[ShadowFlare]

hi new too this scene :)

the readout i got from AtiTool
http://forum.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1050&stc=1&d=1131978224

is this an unlockable card?
i readed the threat completely but i am confused by all those numbers :eek:
maybe there is an table for it wich explain in dummy language if its modable or not.

thank in advance

SigmaNL
How many pipelines do you have right now? Whatever you have, it's not likely you are going to be able to get more by flashing the bios, according to the info in that screenshot.

[SigmaNL]

currently my powercolor x800pro has 12 pipelines
but after reading this article i am hopefull it still might succeed

http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/rx800-3.html#p3

my card is 100% the same as he uses even the core has the same numbers

so wish me luck :)

Regards,

SigmaNL

[SPHERE]

^don't think it will unlock dude. :(

[SigmaNL]

back from the dead :P
it failed but ok least i improved on my soldering skills.......arrrf those contacts R tiny

now going to voltmod the hell outa this card :laugh:

grts

SigmaNL

(and thanks for the quick replies)

[Vetal_WEB]

Power Color X800GT 256 Mb
ATITool here is result in text:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Use Device:
0x554B: R423, Bus:1,Dev:0

Default GPU Clock 475.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF3FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x31344
-------------------------------------------------------------
So 8 pipelines will work, but rest 4 or 8 will repose :(

[dolf]

If you really have R423 probably you can have max. 12 pipes. Your BIOS shows that 2 quads are blocked at present. You have to remove the cooler and to see whether you have laser cut on the right. If yes connect it and flash modded BIOS with 12 (or 16) pipes using modified flashrom. If you have R480 probably you will remain with 8 pipes.

Success

[OoiTY]

Sapphire x800GTO 256mb

Currently it's at the default 12 pipes, can I get it up to 16?

[Tedman0105]

I'm affraid my Connect3D X800GTO can't be unlocked either:
http://members.home.nl/tedman/ati/atitool.JPG :mad: :cry:
It's an R423 btw.

[wano]

hi again, i have a x800gto sapphire, and i have the chance to change it for a powercolor GTO... well whats the deiference? would i be able to get the 4 pipes? anda i readed the powercolor gto has the r423 core, 0.11m versus 0.13m of the sapphire... that could be like 20º (celcius) gained...

greetings and what you think

[Timoteo]

Hi
just flashed my card msi rx800se with a x800pro bios and with a x800se modded bios to 16p, but afther those flashes my card still working on 8 pipes.... but i have oc my card using rivatuner and my score on 3dmark05 was somthing like 4500.... that's sounds good. Without oc my card scores 3500 in 3dmark 05... so i will mod my original bios to 530/500 :D
thanks to pple on this cool forum for your hard work and if anyone find somthing to unlock this card that will be fgreat to know.

P4 2.8 ghz
768mb Ram 3200/400
80 Gig HD
MSI 865PE-Neo2-P
MSI RX800SE

[Gizmic]

is mine possible its a BBA X800pro

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2273/atitool5qp.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool5qp.jpg)

[SPHERE]

is mine possible its a BBA X800pro

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2273/atitool5qp.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool5qp.jpg)
doesn't look like it :( sry :(

[Gizmic]

damn :( i want to cry it was like the first batch of x800pro that came out hu hu hu

[LeetFade]

Ok I finally got ATITool to recognize my card... Let me know what you guys (or girls :-b)think I should do.
*reminder* I'm a complete n00b when it comes to OC. ; ;

[Robin [CZ]]

Here is my sweetheard

[SPHERE]

Here is my sweetheard
sry doesn't look like you can unlock :(

Ok I finally got ATITool to recognize my card... Let me know what you guys (or girls :-b)think I should do.
*reminder* I'm a complete n00b when it comes to OC. ; ;
what card? it looks like there may be a chance though of 12 pipes :) you have 8 right?

[Robin [CZ]]

sry doesn't look like you can unlock :(

Why?:)

[SPHERE]

Why?:)
no pipes are locked via bios and you have at least 4 pipes perminatly locked, sry i didn't think about the lasercut if you have one (r423 core) there is a chance of 12 but most gt's come with the r480 which has a different method of locking pipes after the fact from what ive seen :)

[Robin [CZ]]

no pipes are locked via bios and you have at least 4 pipes perminatly locked, sry i didn't think about the lasercut if you have one (r423 core) there is a chance of 12 but most gt's come with the r480 which has a different method of locking pipes after the fact from what ive seen :)

Yup I have R480. I still hope that somebody will get the hang of that unlocking extra 4 pips on R480 :)

But my screenshot isn't really mine, becouse I flashed my BIOS in card with some modded powercolor BIOS. So, that's why I didn't mean to post here my fuses research... but dolf wanted it so much :)

[Gaga]

Hi, is this Card x850 Pro Vivo unlockable ?

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6812/laser3vo.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laser3vo.jpg)

[LeetFade]

what card? it looks like there may be a chance though of 12 pipes :) you have 8 right?

It's a Powercolor x800GT. Yes I currently have 8 pipes unlocked.

[SPHERE]

It's a Powercolor x800GT. Yes I currently have 8 pipes unlocked. there is a chance of 12 flash it to a 16 pipe bios using the moded flashrom :)

Hi, is this Card x850 Pro Vivo unlockable ?

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6812/laser3vo.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laser3vo.jpg)
dont think so :(

[davaro]

hi all boyz.

i have a Sapphire x800gto.1.6ns 256bit 256mb

this card may be 16 pipes?

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/6301/image20at.th.gif

[Gaga]

@ Sphere... maybe with a Hardmod or is it an on-die Lock ?

[LeetFade]

there is a chance of 12 flash it to a 16 pipe bios using the moded flashrom :)

At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, what exactly do I need to do? Use the Powercolor GTO^2 bios with ATIFlash? Do I need a specific command line switch?

Sorry to ask so many questions; I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.

Just noticed there's not even a Powercolor GTO^2. >< What is the best fit BIOS for this?

[SPHERE]

At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot, what exactly do I need to do? Use the Powercolor GTO^2 bios with ATIFlash? Do I need a specific command line switch?

Sorry to ask so many questions; I just want to make sure I'm doing it right.

Just noticed there's not even a Powercolor GTO^2. >< What is the best fit BIOS for this?
take of hs and tell me what core you have if it doesn't say then tell me what it does say :) (you need to look at the core dont look at a program)

[CRW]

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7199/atitool0su.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool0su.jpg)

here is what i see on my ati tool's,how could i see the fuses like everyother one?
and can i enable the 4 more pipelines?

[peta01]

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7199/atitool0su.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool0su.jpg)

here is what i see on my ati tool's,how could i see the fuses like everyother one?
and can i enable the 4 more pipelines?

Hold down Shift key while clicking on Settings button. According to your fuses data we can tell you if it is possible to unlock.

[CRW]

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/3894/atitool29so.th.jpg (http://img310.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool29so.jpg)

okay,here are the fuses.So could i unlock the pipes?

[68Olds]

Doesn't look like it CRW. What make & model do you have?

[CRW]

my card is Club 3d x850 pro Vivo Pci-e(CGAX-PX85VTVD). just intrested how can you tell from those hex numbers if the card is unlockable or not?

[pao-lini]

Help Me please, i have buyed a Saphire X800gto2 with memory Samsung 1.6 and GPU R480,
Atitool explain this:

Active Pipelines: 12
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X261
Chip Type R80

I tied the mod with flashrom modded and bios modded, all Ok no erros, but when i reboot with Atitool i have always 12 pipe !!! and CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X261 !!! The 4 pipe is also locked ! WHY ?
Bye
Paolo

[SPHERE]

are you using the moded flashrom and a 16 pipe bios? :)

acording to the fufes your bios is still locked but dont worry it looks like the card can definatly be moded from where im standing :)

[pao-lini]

are you using the moded flashrom and a 16 pipe bios? :)

acording to the fufes your bios is still locked but dont worry it looks like the card can definatly be moded from where im standing :)

This evening a try using atiuflash modded and bios modded and tomorrow i will say.
Bye
Paolo

[dolf]

Don't use ATIFlash, use modified flashrom in DOS. Looking fuses definitely you WILL HAVE 16 pipes ;) :D . The other option is to use automated flash utility to get your 16 pipes.
You have to obtain: CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X260

Success

[pao-lini]

Don't use ATIFlash, use modified flashrom in DOS. Looking fuses definitely you WILL HAVE 16 pipes ;) :D . The other option is to use automated flash utility to get your 16 pipes.
You have to obtain: CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X260

Success

Thanks, but where dos i find the automated flash utility ?
Bue
Paolo

[68Olds]

my card is Club 3d x850 pro Vivo Pci-e(CGAX-PX85VTVD). just intrested how can you tell from those hex numbers if the card is unlockable or not?
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSE 0xFFFFFF9E
My understanding is that the bold E's need to be F's for the pipes to be unlocked. I'm am sure someone with more experience will correct me if I am wrong.

[Gaga]

I bought today a second Connect3D Card. Hopefully this card can be unlocked. If not i buy tomorrow a Sapphire X850 Pro.

Wish me luck guys !

[CRW]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATITool
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSE 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x3E1
My understanding is that the bold E's need to be F's for the pipes to be unlocked. I'm am sure someone with more experience will correct me if I am wrong.

but what does those hex numbers mean?like 0x3E1 ain't that number 1 their mean that i have quad(which is four pipes?)locked in my card. E is 14(hex => dec) could that also tell somethink from the amount of pipes in the card?

[Gaga]

Ok f**k , new Connect3D Radeon X850 Pro and exactly the same

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSE 0xFFFFFF9E

;((

I bring the card back and tomorrow i try to get me an Atlantis Sapphire X850 Pro.

Maybe Sapphire likes me more ;)

[Gaga]

Had anybody luck in unlocking MSI RX850PRO-VTD256 or SAPPHIRE Atlantis X850Pro ?

I dont know other manufactures producing X850 Pro AGP cards except Asus, but they are too expensive.

[dolf]

This is the problem that some producers "produces" X850PRO VIVO AGP (they are native PRO cards which means 12 pipe core and 2.0ns memory).
Sapphire (has X850PRO but not VIVO AGP) and PoweColor (hasn't x850PRO AGP) probably other producers officialy don't have X850PRO VIVO AGP.
If the producer officially have X850PRO VIVO AGP probably it is unlockable (or I think so). ATI has X850PRO VIVO AGP (see: http://www.pricewatch.com/) but in fact it should be XT which haven't meet the XT requirements (it is produced to be XT with 16 pipe core and 1.6ns memory). If possible look for as older as possible X850PRO VIVO on the shelves.

[weedman]

Sapphire X850 Pro. can i incerace the pipe lines ?

[ribs]

hi
can you check this card please, its a asus x850 pro.
thanks
rb

[SPHERE]

Sapphire X850 Pro. can i incerace the pipe lines ?hi
can you check this card please, its a asus x850 pro.
thanks
rb

now that's a good question... :confused: dolf/shadowflare what do you think?...

try it find out :)

i don't know that that data means exactly sry :(

[Gaga]

Well there exist a Sapphire AGP Vivo.

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=Sapphire+X850&in=

And btw why do you guys buy Asus X850 Pro. It is more expensive than PowerColor X850 XT.

[CRW]

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100
i was thinking that has someone with x850pro even try to flash their card to a xt?
Maybe the fuse values mean a diffrent thing in x850pro, meaning the F and E or B.

[dolf]

About the Ribs fuses I can say that it is again unlockable card unfortunately. The results are similar to R420, (R423) with disconnected left bridge (config_substrate_fuses 0xFFFFFF9E) E should be F in order to have 16 pipes or you need to connect the left bridge. But (you will say) R480 hasn't laser cuts and you will be absolutely right it haven't (or at least on the front side).
That's the bitter truth.

I noticed another interesting thing: GB_PIPE_SELECT also can bring reliable informatiom. But only part of the meanings are clear for me now. There is difference deppending of the type of the core/bus of the cards.
The format could be 5 digit or 4 digit. It can also say whether we can have 16 pipes or not but more important is that it (I think so) can show whether is possible to have 12 pipes on R480 (R430).

[pao-lini]

Thanks, thanks !

I buyed Sapphire X800gto2 and with your help, now i have 16 pipelines !. The frequency 520/560 = X850xt PE. But the timing of mem are equal x850xt may i change it ?
Bye
Paolo

[dolf]

I will try to put more light in understanding the meaning of fuse values on R480 (R430) which are similar and meanwhile different from R420 and R423.

It was interesting to understand why R480 looks unlockable for 12 pipes (the 16 pipe configuration is already clear: CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF;CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F) but in many cases it is not possible to have even 12 pipes.

I consider that GB_PIPE_SELECT can explain the possibility to have 12 pipes on R480. How?

I have carefully examined all the fuse data in the thread and can say the following:

The R480 fuse matrix of the "locked" core is always one and the same CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFYFFF; CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9Z

GB_PIPE_SELECT have mainly two meanings - 5 and 4 digits

4 digits configuration:
a) 2724 (with F's in CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF;CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F - means 16 pipes possible)
b) 3FE4 (the second position F is always equal with the 5th position from CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF) - combined with F's in CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF;CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F - also means 16 pipes possible

The above is not so interesting because 16 pipes are possible if F's are present in CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF;CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F.

Let see what we have on the other R480 which are locked for 16 pipes and it is not clear whether they can run even with 12 pipes.

5 digits configuration:
XXYSS (Y is always equal with the 5th position from CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFYFFF)

XX value is of interest here as follows:

a) If XX is an even number the core can have 12 pipes
b) If XX is an odd number the core can't have 12 pipes

R423 is another story because the chance to have 12 pipes on 8 pipe card is great by connecting the right bridge and flashing 12 pipe BIOS. (I won't comment these cores with F's in CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF;CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F) because they are with 16 pipes.

It is my explanation of the fuse data and it is possible to be totally wrong, that's why if somebody has better ideas please to share them with us :) .

[Gaga]

Still no luck. I tested now the third card. Two from Connect 3D with exactly the same FUSES:
And now the Sapphire. Other Fuses but unlockable.

After spending now 750€ i will bring back the cards ;( and live with a 850 Pro ...

This is Connect 3D

http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=laser3vo.jpg

this is Sapphire

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8695/x850prosapphire9ce.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x850prosapphire9ce.jpg)

Btw both cards habe the same cooler. Everthing is the same

[Gaga]

I wonder if its possible to hard mod these cards.

Are they only locked through the cut and i cant draw a connectuion ;) or are they locked in any other way ?

And how can i see how they are exactly locked ....

[dolf]

I have searched these connection places very long time but unfortunately they are on the botom (back) side of the core :shadedshu . To connect them you have to unsolder the core :o which I won't recommend you :D .

Meanwhile you should be situated in our sweet Europe I suppose? And most probably in Germany because so many Connect3D have to be in there. Am I right?

And of course the prices in that our Europe are far more "better" than in US :cool: . But don't even listen to me I am just dreaming.

All the time I have to order every single high-end video hardware from USA and to wait some friend of me to return and to bring me Canadian product, produced in China delivered to US and finaly delivered to Europe at 30-50% lower price than in my country :D . But this is the life and we have to enjoy it.

[Roberto72]

Dolf, can you tell us some more regarding the R420 core.
If I compare all the data what I see is:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX3XXXX = hardlocked pipelines
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX7XXXX = no hardlock, number of piplines determined by CONFIG_ROM_FUSES (0=16P, 1=12P, 2=8P, 3=4P).

CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXX1E = Lasercut leftside top core (12P) ?
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXEXX = Lasercut rightside top core (8P) ?

GB_PIPE_SELECT seems to be completly determined by CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXYXXX.
Y=GB_PIPE_SELECT
3=31344
5=29550
6=25650
7=277A4
9=19940
B=12B84
D=AD46
E=6E48
What that all means I don't know :confused:

[Gaga]

@ Dolf: Yes i am from Europe, but after i have searched the whole web , i found X850 Pro AGPdirectly from ATI for 216€. The cheapest X850 Pro here i found is 243€.

Well i think i sell my old mb + cpu and get me an new one with Pci-X and then take a GTO 2 ;)

Thats the best soltuion hehe.

[LeetFade]

take of hs and tell me what core you have if it doesn't say then tell me what it does say :) (you need to look at the core dont look at a program)

Any way to avoid doing this? LoL. I know that ATI made the program lie to all of us and say r423 when it's really a 480, but didn't all Powercolor boards come with the 480? I'm just trying to avoid removing the heatsink because I've never ripped apart a video card. <.<

[snail]

Hi,

does anyone have an idea wether this card can be unlocked to 16 pipes? It uses radeon r430 core.

1127

@ Roberto72: do you have such information for r430? It's good to have it summarized like that.


snail

[ryboto]

Dolf, can you tell us some more regarding the R420 core.
If I compare all the data what I see is:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX3XXXX = hardlocked pipelines
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX7XXXX = no hardlock, number of piplines determined by CONFIG_ROM_FUSES (0=16P, 1=12P, 2=8P, 3=4P).

CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXX1E = Lasercut leftside top core (12P) ?
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXEXX = Lasercut rightside top core (8P) ?

GB_PIPE_SELECT seems to be completly determined by CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXYXXX.
Y=GB_PIPE_SELECT
3=31344
5=29550
6=25650
7=277A4
9=19940
B=12B84
D=AD46
E=6E48
What that all means I don't know :confused:
Is this applicable to the R423 core?? cause that's what Atitool reports my x800pro non vivo as...i've connected the laser cut, the fuses data for my card is on page 21. I'm sorta confused, i know the data above isn't in any way final, I'm just curious how to apply what Atitool tells me about my card to unlock the 4 pipes.

[peta01]

Hi,

does anyone have an idea wether this card can be unlocked to 16 pipes? It uses radeon r430 core.

1127

@ Roberto72: do you have such information for r430? It's good to have it summarized like that.


snail

Im sorry, but the BAD thing is that it is not possible to unlock pipes on R430 core. The 12 pipes R430 have all the same fuses data. Nobody was successful unlocking this. I have 12 pipes R430 too, but I still hope ;)

[peta01]

Dolf, can you tell us some more regarding the R420 core.
If I compare all the data what I see is:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX3XXXX = hardlocked pipelines
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xXXX7XXXX = no hardlock, number of piplines determined by CONFIG_ROM_FUSES (0=16P, 1=12P, 2=8P, 3=4P).

CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXX1E = Lasercut leftside top core (12P) ?
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXXEXX = Lasercut rightside top core (8P) ?

GB_PIPE_SELECT seems to be completly determined by CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xXXXXYXXX.
Y=GB_PIPE_SELECT
3=31344
5=29550
6=25650
7=277A4
9=19940
B=12B84
D=AD46
E=6E48
What that all means I don't know :confused:

CONFIG_ROM_FUSES has no impact on pipes unlocking if they are not unlocked :D. You can easily change this value by flashing.

[2r4z0r2]

hello can someone tell me wheather this card is unlockable
gecube x800gto 128mb

r430
0xFFFFEFFF
0xFFFFFF9E


card is AGP, 12 pipes

tnx :)

[SPHERE]

hello can someone tell me wheather this card is unlockable
gecube x800gto 128mb

r430
0xFFFFEFFF
0xFFFFFF9E


card is AGP, 12 pipes

tnx :) nope sry :(

[NoIdeaForANick]

Good Morning :)
My first post in this Forum :toast:

I have a Sapphire X800 GTO AGP with 2 ns Ram, R423 Chip, OC: 570/600 stable (GPU and Ram Watercooled)

My ATI Tool says:

0xFFFFFFFF
0xFFFFFF9F

The Other Card:
Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO PCI-E with 2 ns Ram, R423 Chip (Sorry i was wrong), OC 540/580 (same Cooling)

ATI Tool:
0xFFFFFFFF
0xFFFFFF9F

I got 12 Pipes on both, is it possible to get more?
Will I have to flash a new Bios?
I have a problem then, because i don`t have any Floppydrives.... Can i use a CD-Rom to Flash a Bios ?
I don`t want to Overclock it permanently, i only want the 16 Pipes if possible ?

Sorry so many Questions :)

Thank you

[RCpilot]

And good morning to you too.

Somewhere in this forum there is a post about someone offering a complete
setup on CD-ROM for flashing; I just don't remember if it's for a GTO or a GTO2.

It shouldn,t be a problem; you could let Nero make a bootable CD with the flash tool
and some BIOS'es. But before that take a copy of the originals.

May I ask, where you bought these cards and what you paid? I'm about to order a
GTO card from Germany myself and would like to increase my chances of finding a
modable card. And maybe a model number or such.

Cheers
Erik (Denmark)

[NoIdeaForANick]

And good morning to you too.

Somewhere in this forum there is a post about someone offering a complete
setup on CD-ROM for flashing; I just don't remember if it's for a GTO or a GTO2.

It shouldn,t be a problem; you could let Nero make a bootable CD with the flash tool
and some BIOS'es. But before that take a copy of the originals.

May I ask, where you bought these cards and what you paid? I'm about to order a
GTO card from Germany myself and would like to increase my chances of finding a
modable card. And maybe a model number or such.

Cheers
Erik (Denmark)

Hi,
I bought the AGP-Card at www.amazon.de for 199,-€ and the PCI-E Card ( Sapphire GTO light retail) at my local Dealer for 189,-€. My local Dealer got a Internetshop too, but i don`t know the price of the Card there: www.atelco.de .

Good Luck and thank you for your help :)

Cheers
Holger

EDIT:
I´ve just looked in the Internet Shop of Atelco and the Card is not listed there ?!?
I´ll call my Shop today and ask for it, okay ?

EDIT Numer 2: at Amazon they have the PCI-Express Card, too...

Here are the Links:
AGP- GTO (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BTAPBY/302-7789870-2448843)
GTO2 for 229,-€ maybe the best Choice for you ;) (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BKXOJS/qid=1132830706/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_10_3/302-7528548-0458424)
The GTO for PCI-E 209,-€ (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000BFJ80M/qid=1132830545/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_10_2/302-7528548-0458424)

[RCpilot]

Hi.
I just remembered having a link to the thread with the CD:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5796&highlight=connect3d+gto+mod

BTW, amazon.de won't ship to Denmark. And I would also rather do it on the cheap.
I can get an X800XT for not much more than the price of a GTO2(2400 Dkr. vs. 2000).
Then I can have a fast card without any risk. And also without any fun.
For me the fun is taking a cheap card and the mod/OC the hell out of it.
I enjoyed doing it with the AMD486, the Celeron 300A and the Radeon 9500 NonPro to 9700 PRO.

But I wouldn't want to get a GTO card, that couldn't be modded. So I try to be careful about which card to get. Connect3D, Powercolor or Sapphire, I think. But which?

Cheers
Erik

[NoIdeaForANick]

Hi.
I just remembered having a link to the thread with the CD:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5796&highlight=connect3d+gto+mod

BTW, amazon.de won't ship to Denmark. And I would also rather do it on the cheap.
I can get an X800XT for not much more than the price of a GTO2(2400 Dkr. vs. 2000).
Then I can have a fast card without any risk. And also without any fun.
For me the fun is taking a cheap card and the mod/OC the hell out of it.
I enjoyed doing it with the AMD486, the Celeron 300A and the Radeon 9500 NonPro to 9700 PRO.

But I wouldn't want to get a GTO card, that couldn't be modded. So I try to be careful about which card to get. Connect3D, Powercolor or Sapphire, I think. But which?

Cheers
Erik
Thanks for the Link,
I´ve ordered a GTO2 just a few hours ago so this Link fits perfect for me :D
I Undertand your Problem, i love to mod, too....
Thats why i`m going for the GTO2, i hope for a good Ocler and then it will be Vmodded after the 16p Unlock :)

My other PCI-E Card Hangs up after a few hours of Stresstesting with X800XT PE Speeds :(
The AGP Card works very well even at Speeds above of the X850Xt PE, now i hope for the 16p mod :)

[m1rage]

I've changed my sapphier x800gt to another sapphier x800gt.
this is old fuses:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
after lasercut connect CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES was changed to 0xFFFFF61F
but i still have 8 pipes

On new one
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF3EFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
after lasercut connect CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES was changed to 0xFFFFF61F
pipes=12:rockout: :rockout: :rockout:
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/46677.jpg
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/46678.jpg

[peta01]

I've changed my sapphier x800gt to another sapphier x800gt.
this is old fuses:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
after lasercut connect CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES was changed to 0xFFFFF61F
but i still have 8 pipes

On new one
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF3EFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
after lasercut connect CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES was changed to 0xFFFFF61F
pipes=12:rockout: :rockout: :rockout:
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/46677.jpg
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/46678.jpg

What core do you have on the new one?

[m1rage]

On core it was written x800GT(not SE or PRO) but i think this is r423. The same on both cards.

[PastryLikeDood]

heres my fuses info...

I dont think its changed since i did the bios flash so its recognized as R480 though...

I took my HSF off and took a look at it to see if i was able to see the laser cut... I only managed to see 2 little square shaped laser cuts.. one in each corner and 2 circle shaped ones, also one in the oposite corners..it was kind of like this... (zero for square period for circle)

. 0

0 .


Anyways i was not able to find the five little clustered ones... maybe covered up already?

[Vario]

Heres mine. I have an x800 of uncertain origin. Packaging and board appears to be an MSI x800xl, came locked at a low clock rate, only 12 pipes, and according to dxdiag: with an x800gto bios. ATI Tool claims a 12 pixel pipeline and r430 core. Flashed to a msi x800xl bios from this website, and here are my fuses.

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 554D
Chip Type R430
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724


Can I get the 16 pipes? Its disappointing considering I am supposed to have them stock anyway.

[dolf]

Yes you can have 16 pipes :D . Congratulations :toast: .

[dolf]

Roberto72 I have no better explanation for the fuse numbers than my previous. It was mainly for R480 where the matrix is:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFYFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9Z

Where Y and Z are different fo different number of pipes. I believe that GB_PIPE_SELECT can tell us whether R480 can work with only 8 or 12 pipes (not 16).

Your post is also very interesting but I have no idea how exactly to interpret the results. Probably we (you and I) have something right and something wrong in the interpretation but that is the risk of the life-transmission ;). I will further continue to dig in R4XX serie ......

[Vario]

Yes you can have 16 pipes :D . Congratulations :toast: .
Then how do I get them. The video card came with an x800pro bios installed. I bought it off ebay supposedly retail (ya right). Flashed it to an x800xl bios, and only 12 pipelines still. Tried flashing 3 times. HELP!!!

[68Olds]

Then how do I get them. The video card came with an x800pro bios installed. I bought it off ebay supposedly retail (ya right). Flashed it to an x800xl bios, and only 12 pipelines still. Tried flashing 3 times. HELP!!!
Are you using the 16p version of flashrom?
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

[Vario]

I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the tip, we shall see...
16 pipes. Thanks for the flashmod suggestion. It displayed 12 after the last flash, then I reinstalled catalyst again and it said 16.
Problem solved. I can't thank you enough.

[68Olds]

Glad you got it unlocked !!!

Enjoy!

[Roberto72]

Dolf,
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFYFFF
If Y=1,2,4 or 8 => 1 pipeline block available
If Y=3,5,6,9,A or C => 2 pipeline blocks available
If Y=7,B,D or E => 3 pipeline blocks available
If Y=F => 4 pipeline blocks available

It also indicates which blocks are enabled. The value for my card is 9 => 1001.
If it would be 6 => 0110. How the pipes are selected I don't know.

[dolf]

Roberto, it sounds good and logical. How the pipes are selected - I have my explanation based on long research and measurements done with my X800XT (R420core). The "problem" is lack of power supplay within the core certain points. On the back side of R420 are 9 bridges which are the same like the 2 on the front side. On R480 (R430) all the bridges should be on the back side of the core. But the effect is one and the same.

[rosieboy]

Ok, a while back i ordered myself the connect3d gto.
Unfortunally the store sent me a 800XL instead because they were out of stock, i got upset and sent it back.. They got a new batch in and sent me one of these instead. Didn't feel to positive, new batch and all, odds of unlocking are slimmer.. Trying to make myself a bootable usb or cd, meanwhilst perhaps someone can enlighten me if my card can be modded or not?

Thx in advance!

(so to be clear, this is a connect3d x800gto) havn't seen these numbers before so any help is apprechiated. Can i do anything with this card?

R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF71E

Im guessing this card isn't moddable.. But i was hoping to be proven wrong.

(Is this maybe a x800 pro vivo core? couldn't those be flashed somehow too?)

[peta01]

Ok, a while back i ordered myself the connect3d gto.
Unfortunally the store sent me a 800XL instead because they were out of stock, i got upset and sent it back.. They got a new batch in and sent me one of these instead. Didn't feel to positive, new batch and all, odds of unlocking are slimmer.. Trying to make myself a bootable usb or cd, meanwhilst perhaps someone can enlighten me if my card can be modded or not?

Thx in advance!

(so to be clear, this is a connect3d x800gto) havn't seen these numbers before so any help is apprechiated. Can i do anything with this card?

R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF71E

Im guessing this card isn't moddable.. But i was hoping to be proven wrong.

(Is this maybe a x800 pro vivo core? couldn't those be flashed somehow too?)

My God, you did something so stupid. They sent you X800XL for the same price and you refused it? :shadedshu

[rosieboy]

Yes. :eek:

Well, a gto flashed up to XT is better than the XL, no?

But unfortunally i might not be able to flash my card up so then, yes, stupid.

BUT, im starting to think that this is a x800pro vivo core i've got here, so then i can unlock another 4 pipes too, cant i? anyone?

[peta01]

Yes. :eek:

Well, a gto flashed up to XT is better than the XL, no?

But unfortunally i might not be able to flash my card up so then, yes, stupid.

BUT, im starting to think that this is a x800pro vivo core i've got here, so then i can unlock another 4 pipes too, cant i? anyone?

Do you see lasercut on your core? If not you will not get more pipes.

[dolf]

Rosieboy looking the fuses your core is R423 but you will have not more than 12 pipes anyway :wtf: .

[Jonny_doe]

here's mine

http://www.rcbr29394.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/atitools.JPG




It's an ATI X800 256Mb DDR3 Engineers Refernce Card
that came with 450/475 clocks and 20 memory, with 8 pipes,
but i've since flashed this with an XT bios , and atitools now says 500/500 with 16 pipes ..

[peta01]

here's mine

http://www.rcbr29394.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/atitools.JPG




It's an ATI X800 256Mb DDR3 Engineers Refernce Card
that came with 450/475 clocks and 20 memory, with 8 pipes,
but i've since flashed this with an XT bios , and atitools now says 500/500 with 16 pipes ..

Hmm nice one. Where did you get this treasure?
There is only one strange thing. CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES should be 0xFFFFFF9F not 0xFFFFFFFF. But its an engineering sample so everything is possible. I remember when I work at FIC we got some very interesting samples. It was always great fun to test it.
What type of X800 family should this be?

[Jonny_doe]

What type of X800 family should this be?
I got no idea m8 , when I first got this card , you had to force the drivers to load in windows , but once a flashed to a xt bios ( I had to use HIS X800 XT (AGP) 256 MB , as i couldn't find an ATI with 500/500 ) all was fine .

edit : I still got the orginal bios if anyone wants this ...

[peta01]

I got no idea m8 , when I first got this card , you had to force the drivers to load in windows , but once a flashed to a xt bios ( I had to use HIS X800 XT (AGP) 256 MB , as i couldn't find an ATI with 500/500 ) all was fine .

edit : I still got the orginal bios if anyone wants this ...

Yeah post the orig bios pls. I would love to see it :eek:
And btw you can edit bios core and mem clock using Rabit before you flash.

[Jonny_doe]

Yeah post the orig bios pls. I would love to see it :eek:
And btw you can edit bios core and mem clock using Rabit before you flash.
i tried that with rabit , but the orginal HIS X800 XT (AGP) 256 MB bios gave a better score in 3dmark , so i just stuck with that ..


here's the bios attached .... (looks like i had the clocks wrong , it was 475/499

[Nganasan]

Hi, you have a great forum here, this is my firts post.
Recently became an owner of sapphire X800GT 256MB AGP,
programs show that it's R420, haven't taken off the cooling yet to see what it really is,
this is fuses data about my card, question same as always in this topic.
Is it bad news or good news?

http://kodaraklubi.pri.ee/nganasan/fusesdata.JPG

[dolf]

It shows that you have to remove your cooler and to connect right bridge. After that flash 12 pipe BIOS (probably X800PRO) using modified flashrom. The max. number of pipes that you can obtain is 12. Bad or good assess yourself ;) .

[Nganasan]

It shows that you have to remove your cooler and to connect right bridge. After that flash 12 pipe BIOS (probably X800PRO) using modified flashrom. The max. number of pipes that you can obtain is 12. Bad or good assess yourself ;) .
:roll: well, seems to be good news, now i just have to read more from this forum about connecting that bridge and find right bios. Is it possible that after succseeding i might be considering changing cooler, for better one?

[grengy009]

well heres mine... im gonna type it since i dunno how to make screenshots

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

[dolf]

Press PrtScn button (print screen) next time to have screen shot, after that use for instance - paint to save your picture. Your fuses shows that you will remain with 12 pipes :) .

[Dega]

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES : 0xEFF3EFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES : 0xFFFFF71E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES : 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT : 0x6E48

SAYS R423

[fragfeaster777]

Hello everyone!

Been lurking around here for quite some time...

I have an MSI RX800 SE:
Core: R420
Memory: 256MB
Memory bus: 256-bit
Current active pipes: 8

Here is the rest of the data:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF35FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x29550

Right, so I tried to use the modified flashrom, the Atiflash (with -newbios), the Gigabyte flash utility, to get to 12 pipes, all unsuccessful.

I then tried to connect the right bridge, again the operation to get 12 pipes was unsuccesful.

Anything else I can try to do?

Cheers!

[grengy009]

are you sure i cant unlock any pipes... on the box of my graphic card it says up to 16 pipelines and if i cant unlock them then theres no point in flashing to xt if im already overclocking my pro at 531/552

[grengy009]

Dolf,
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFYFFF
If Y=1,2,4 or 8 => 1 pipeline block available
If Y=3,5,6,9,A or C => 2 pipeline blocks available
If Y=7,B,D or E => 3 pipeline blocks available
If Y=F => 4 pipeline blocks available

It also indicates which blocks are enabled. The value for my card is 9 => 1001.
If it would be 6 => 0110. How the pipes are selected I don't know.

since i have a 7 in there wudnt that at least let me unlock 3 pipelines?

[Dunadan]

Hey, I have a Powercolor x800gt with an r480 core and 2.0ns ram. Here is my ATItool screenshot.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4442/atitool1fu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Any chance I can unlock some pipes? From what I have gathered 16 is out, but I have a chance of 12 using x850xt/xtpe BIOS with modded ram timings?

[PastryLikeDood]

Just flashed this card with flashrom.. I dont know if it was the modded one or not... i just downloaded it from this site... Anyways, now my card is identified as R480 core... but still only 8 pipes... Ive got the 1.6ns memory... I dont think there are laser cuts.... I checked but couldnt see much..

[v7100]

I have a Connect3D GTO VIVO with the same fuses as rosieboy i.e.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF71E

The ID printed on the core are X800 Pro. Does this card can be unlocked by following this http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=188&page=83 ?

Ok, a while back i ordered myself the connect3d gto.
Unfortunally the store sent me a 800XL instead because they were out of stock, i got upset and sent it back.. They got a new batch in and sent me one of these instead. Didn't feel to positive, new batch and all, odds of unlocking are slimmer.. Trying to make myself a bootable usb or cd, meanwhilst perhaps someone can enlighten me if my card can be modded or not?

Thx in advance!

(so to be clear, this is a connect3d x800gto) havn't seen these numbers before so any help is apprechiated. Can i do anything with this card?

R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF71E

Im guessing this card isn't moddable.. But i was hoping to be proven wrong.

(Is this maybe a x800 pro vivo core? couldn't those be flashed somehow too?)

[v7100]

I think I have the same core as this one.

http://img476.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn10564tm.jpg

[dolf]

Can you see the two bridges on the right-top side of the core? If your is the same like on the picture you won't see these bridges :confused: .

[v7100]

Mmm, can't remember. I only notice it was X800 Pro when I was mouting with Zalman FSV7. Connect3D X800 GTO are listed as VIVO card. Since I saw the thread on R430 VIVO and I thought it might applied to my VIVO GTO with X800 Pro chip. I am still very confuse since ATI tool listed the core as R423 on this X800 GTO VIVO with X800 Pro chip. :wtf: So no go for unlocking to 16p??? :(

Can you see the two bridges on the right-top side of the core? If your is the same like on the picture you won't see these bridges :confused: .

[grengy009]

is my moddable... i posted on pg 46 with my fuses

[68Olds]

grengy, dolf already answered your question. Unfortunately your card is locked to 12 pipes.
Press PrtScn button (print screen) next time to have screen shot, after that use for instance - paint to save your picture. Your fuses shows that you will remain with 12 pipes

[Matthew]

Hello
I have a x800gt sapphire... core x800se
i want know if is moddable to 12 pipe... if yes, what bios do i need?
i have already seen on the right of the chip there is a lasercut
sorry for my english, isn't very good. :o
this is fuse:

[Nganasan]

I think you are able to open your pipes to 12, you have almost same fuses data that i have, look my posts in previous page and dolf's comment

[Matthew]

i have connect the bridge on the chip and flash with x800xtpe bios (I have set up the frequenci