X800 fuses data for unlocking

[infrared]

i'm gonna flash mine to an x800xt, after fitting a decent cooler. If your card can't handle the speeds, you can always modify the xt bios to have the maximum speeds your card can handle.

:)

[Donar(cz)]

I have ati saphire X800 fifreblade PCIe. Can I flash bios to 16 pipelines? It is my card: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1497&d=1136582277
thx

[infrared]

Sorry, looks like your stuck at 12 :(

[Donar(cz)]

Sorry, looks like your stuck at 12 :(
hmm:( :banghead: , thx :respect:

[SyK1]

don't sweat it i'm stuck at 12 aswell the hard mod didnt work on my card :(

[infrared]

You had the lazer cut? And the reconnect didn't do anything?

[SyK1]

nope it did absolutely nothing very strange just the same as before but my original x800 gto bios is set to 16 pipes that is what dolf told me

[infrared]

hmm, that's a shame.

Maybe the lazercut's a decoy :laugh:

[badsykes]

i have Connect3d X850 pro AGP VIVO and seems i am the "lucky" owner of an unlockable card.. :ohwell:
It have 1.6ns ... if there is other thing to try i wish to hear it

[tsaMolotoff]

I'd post some messages but nobody answered!

THat's my result in ATITool

http://tsa-molotoff.jino-net.ru/pics/x800.JPG

[dolf]

I'd post some messages but nobody answered!

THat's my result in ATITool

http://tsa-molotoff.jino-net.ru/pics/x800.JPG

The fuses also show that your core is R430 (no doubt) which means that no more pipes are possible. I know that this was not the awaited answer but this is it.

Sorry

[dolf]

i have Connect3d X850 pro AGP VIVO and seems i am the "lucky" owner of an unlockable card.. :ohwell:
It have 1.6ns ... if there is other thing to try i wish to hear it

Probably you are right for the unlockable card but even that do the fuse research with ATITool and post your results.

[badsykes]

here is the screen from ATItool..They are not displayed.Another person have the same card and in his screenshot there are no entries about fuses..This is why i put the screenshot from Rivatuner.

[infrared]

you have to hold shift as you click on settings, then scroll down, and the fuse data will be displayed.

[badsykes]

thank you infrared..I edited my previsious post with the new pic with fuses...They are the same like i posted in Rivatuner..

[infrared]

ok, thanks.

Sorry, but it's bad news, it doesn't look like you'll be able to unlock any pipelines :(

[badsykes]

no way to put the pencil on the back of the board ?

[infrared]

There could be a lazer cut next to the GPU, you'll need to take the HSF off to check. If there is a lazer cut, you can use some conductive compound, and then see what the fuse data is indicating.

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/r420lasercut.jpg

[Venomelite]

Might this card have unlockable pipes?

[badsykes]

nope...two E's and those must F's (from my knowledge)

[tsaMolotoff]

Dolf, why it's not unlockable?

Does DIE_Fuses show that I can enable all 4 quads?

What is CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES( I think that's active pipelines count)?

[h2o]

Hello! Is someone finded way how to unlock 16p in Saphire GTO Ultimate? Or its finding now?

[badsykes]

to unite those bridges in the laser cut can i use paste from my Arctic Cooler? what you recommend..I need to know what are the worst thing that can happen by uniting the bridges.Can i kill the chipset even being careful?...Is my first time and when i doi..Those are noobish questions ..grr.
If i use a pencil with grafit head is ok?

[CAMsoup]

to unite those bridges in the laser cut can i use paste from my Arctic Cooler? what you recommend..I need to know what are the worst thing that can happen by uniting the bridges.Can i kill the chipset even being careful?...Is my first time and when i doi..Those are noobish questions ..grr.
If i use a pencil with grafit head is ok?

Arctic silver paste and a graphite pencil are not conductive enough(though I have heard of people trying silver epxoy...but this isn't a good idea either). Go to a local hobby store or radio shack and get a good Conductive Pen

[dolf]

Dolf, why it's not unlockable?

Does DIE_Fuses show that I can enable all 4 quads?

What is CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES( I think that's active pipelines count)?

Yes you are right for the DIE_FUSES they show 4 quads (16 pipes) but the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES show that you need to connect left bridge in order to obtain F on the last place. But R430 hasn't bridges to be connected at least on the front side. You can do nothing about unfortunately.

[tsaMolotoff]

But in that thread I'd read that somebody unlocked x800GTO, which was based on r430.:confused:

May be it's on back side of the core?

[dolf]

But in that thread I'd read that somebody unlocked x800GTO, which was based on r430.:confused:

May be it's on back side of the core?

Yes if this somebody has R430 with the following fuses it is possible:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x21 (0x22)

The only thing which is necessary is to flash in order to change CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x21 (0x22) to 0x20.

[badsykes]

dolf...do you a have others ideas for me ?

[TazzMania]

For your information:

Dolf and others .....the new Sapphire X800 GTO with 256 Meg AGP has Ifenion (spelling) ram installed and a r430 (verified when changing out the cooler). This card had F's in all spots to unlock 16 pipes. So add it to the list of unlockables :toast:

[dolf]

dolf...do you a have others ideas for me ?

Unfortunately no more pipes :cry: .

[badsykes]

grrr...I suppose newer ATI cards generations will not unlock anymore..Only oc will remain

[TazzMania]

Hey Dolf and others ...I installed the ATI Silencer 5 Rev 2 on my X800 and ran ATI Tool to try and O/C the GPU further than the previous 444.....It was able to push out 447 and no more is that about all I can get out of the 430 core or do need to set the cooler to 100% then run ATI tools Max GPU tool.:confused:

Tazz :cool:

[infrared]

basically the R430 core sucks for overclocking due to the crappy manufacture process they used with the r430. I'm gonna try my atisilencer 5r2 soon, so we'll see what happens.

I also tried volt modding mine, and i could only squeeze out another 5mhz with the voltage up at some crazy voltage!

[Sicosamo]

Hi

I have a Sapphire x800GTO pci-e, the normal version, I have read the post almost completly but I'm confused. From what I've understood if the card has the r480 core it can be unlcoked isn't it? Atitool says my core is an r480, i haven't tried to flash it because i can't find a specific version of the bios for my car, the one I've found is for GTO2 and I think that is not valid for my card.

This is what atitool says.

[umeras]

I postet a few times here about my asus x800 gto. I'm wondering wht i'm getting artefacts at stock speeds :(.. 400 core.. 980 mems. With atitool after maximum 1 min i'm getting artefacts.. in cs source i'm loosing textures.. in fear the shadows are f..cked up really bad. I think the mems are clocked too high.. at 960 it runs smooth. I have no overheating problems.. the temp doesn't go higher than 54-55.. so i sent it away.. I'm asking if anybody else had simillar problems. I have attached some pics.thx

[dolf]

It seems memory issue. I have X800XT flashed to XT PE but with the memory bandwidth optimisation in Catalyst 5.6 and later I start to see similar artifacts. They disappear at 555MHz on the memory but ATITool shows 570MHz without problems :confused: .
I start to play with the memory timings (use ATI Tray Tools for timings changes and for artifact scan use ATITool).

In my case changing TRP parameter from 5 to 7 solves all artifact problems and increase the max. memory overclock to 594MHz. I have used RaBit to create custom BIOS with changed timing and flash my card with that. I have also tried values 6 and 8 but for me 7 was the most stable.
If you still have problems (after the memory timings "optimisation") just create your own custom BIOS with memory speed suitable for your card and flash it with it.

[umeras]

i sent it back in warranty... i just ordered a gigabyte 7800gt... i had enough with that card. since it's too much trouble to order a saphire x800 ore something like that .. 20 pipes and 7 vertex from the start sounds better. probably i won't be able to unlock the remaining 4 pipes and 1 vertex because they are locked in hardware mode ore something like that.riva tuner shows that the pipes are disabled. it's about 100$ more expensive but i think it's worthed. 10x again

[SilentAlarm]

I just successfully unlocked all 16 pipelines on my Sapphire X800 GTO with 256MB AGP 2.0ns DDR3.:toast:

I bought it in the 2nd week of january 2006 at the german Amazon for 209 euros incl. shipping. It has the R430 core showed in ATITool and positively checked it by removing the fan.I flashed it with the X800 XL 2.0 bios.

I dont have the fuses data anymore but i still have the original BIOS. If someone wants to take a look at it please notify me.

Great threat ... thanks to all who provided infos :)

[DarkStorm388]

hi guys...can u tell me if i can unlock my sapphire x800gto from 12 to 16 pipes? Its a R430 chip and I have a pic attached...thanks

[badsykes]

nope you can't..It's the same shity E like at my Connect3d X850pro vivo

[G0Dfather]

connect3d sucks:cool:

[manoloxxl]

Hello,
becuase i do a new try an buying me a PCIe Card:

Wich Crad schould i buy - where is the greatest chance to get a modable X800GT(O) PCIe???
Or should i buy another Cardgeneration? I habe abot 170€ to buy a new card.

Greetings
Manuel

[G0Dfather]

in europe you can get a Powercolor Radeon X800 GTO 16, 256MB GDDR3, 2x DVI, ViVo, PCIe (http://www.geizhals.at/eu/a179433.html) for 180€ ;)

btw: the card has 16 pipelines

[magog96]

Ok, let's continue the fuses data:
Sapphire X800 GTO AGP (Samsung 1,6ns RAM :D )
It's the R430 Chip plus the PCIe to AGP bridge.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES............: 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES..........: 0xA61

So one set of 4 pipelines disabled by the BIOS.

[manoloxxl]

in europe you can get a Powercolor Radeon X800 GTO 16, 256MB GDDR3, 2x DVI, ViVo, PCIe (http://www.geizhals.at/eu/a179433.html) for 180€ ;)

btw: the card has 16 pipelines
Great! Thank you!
Will this card be "much" better/faster than my old X800GT AGP 550/570 ?

[G0Dfather]

it's not much better than your old x800gt card!
in 3dmark05: +12% faster
FEAR: +18%
AOE3: +22%
FarCry: +12%

i would recommend to buy a X850Pro or XT because the card producers don't produce AGP cards any more. (The x850xt is approximately 60 or 70% faster than your X800GT)

[betatestxp]

Please Help
I tried the bootable cd image and this is what happened.
*the flash said it was sucessfull upgrading to 16.
*rebooted and XP found a new card... ( Radeon X800 / X850 Series ) ?
*still only 12 :wtf:

I guess I need to download the original bios since idiot me forgot to save mine 1st.. hehe

I guess mine won't go to 16 from this info below ?

I have "E"'s NOT "F"'s
R480 core
( but the program "RaBiT" says it's the R423 core ) ?
0xFFFFEFFF
0xFFFFFF9E

Thanks guys :)

[betatestxp]

Howdy again,
One more quick question...

What do you think about using the Windows based ATIWinflash instead of flashing it from dos ?

Thanks again,

Todd

[dominator2]

connect3d sucks:cool:





SO DOES BUILT BY ATI...:mad: HERES THE FUSE DATA ON MY BBA X850 AGP PRO(VIVO)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12B84

Tried to flash this to 16 pipes with atiflash.exe -p -f -newbios 0 newbios.bin and it changed the 61 to 60 at 00000070 but still shows 12 pipes. ATI is getting as bad as INTEL in countering O/C :banghead:

[manoloxxl]

Hy,
i just orderd a GeCube Radeon X850 Pro, 256MB GDDR3, DVI, ViVo, PCIe and will post the results here in hope it will open 16

[badsykes]

dominator...I have EXACTLY the same Card and fuses...
Connect3d just replace a sticker with their brand..Is reference design...

[MrGoodLife]

Hola!

I've poured over the threads and picked up some information here or there about which core would be better for overclocking. I've just received the Sapphire x800gto agp which has the r420 core, and now the oem version is back in stock which looks to have the r480 core. Not so concerned about unlocking extra pipes, and I have an arctic silencer. Okay, okay I'll get to the point:

Which core is better for oc'ing - R420 or R480? Can't verify if the OEM (R480) version has the 1.6 ns ram, pretty sure it doesn't, but I know my card (R420) has 2.0 ns.

I enjoy doing my own research, but as is the case these days with PCI-E and AGP, it is hard to pin down what versions people are referencing. So if you have link to where I can answer my own question, or a better place to post this question, please toss it over.

Thanks! :banghead:

[infrared]

ask to have a look at the OEM card to see what the memory is. If you've got the ATI Silenver on the card with the r420, your gonna have a nightmare taking it off if you want to exchange it or something. The pads on the ram cooling part stick really well to the memory, and if your not carefull, you'll pull the chips right off the PCB.

The R480 is better for overclocking than the R420, but it's really luck of the draw. You could have a good one, whereas you could get a bad one.

Anyway, good luck with it. I hope you get a decent one in the finish!

[MrGoodLife]

Can't look - it's a Newegger. You think some sapphire's shipped with 1.6 ns chips?

Luck of the draw is a cause of the addiction. When it comes to heating up any processor, I like the safe bet, but any bet it is a gamble.

Good call on the silencer. I waited to put it on the x800gto I just received for this reason. It looked like it would be almost permanent.

Thanks!

[Stilt]

Damn, it seems that the Sapphire GTO² cards are discontinued.
Most of the distributors have removed the card from their reseller sites.

Grab while you can :mad:

[Thefriend]

Sapphire X800gto fireblade. And if i caan't unlock the pipes.. cant istill flash the bios and get a better score.. or atleast better proformance?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/thefriend/clock.jpg

[SyK1]

stick with overclocking you will get great performance boosts from that aswell.
I overclocked my x800 gto from stock 400/490 to 520/550 stable.
But mine would not unlock to 16 pipes so i bought a x800xt pe with 16 pipes :D

[DarkStorm388]

is there anything i could do to my card such as unlock 16 pipes or flash it to increase overclocking ability?....i have a sapphire radeon x800gto agp card with a r430 core....ive noticed ppl saying they could overclock their cards to like 550mhz with stock fan....i get errors once i pass 435mhz core clock...i have a pic attached with my fuse data....please some1 help me..im a noob here

[smoke]

I`ve read almost all that was written on this subject and I don`t understand one thing - if it IS a R480 core but doesn`t have F`s it is modable or not ?

I ask because I have a Sapphire x800gto ultimate with R480 core and without F`s.

[TazzMania]

is there anything i could do to my card such as unlock 16 pipes or flash it to increase overclocking ability?....i have a sapphire radeon x800gto agp card with a r430 core....ive noticed ppl saying they could overclock their cards to like 550mhz with stock fan....i get errors once i pass 435mhz core clock...i have a pic attached with my fuse data....please some1 help me..im a noob here


Because the Config_Substrate_Fuse line does not have a F in the last position , unfortantly you can not unlock the 16 pipes with a bios flash , I have only been able to squeeze out 447 core and 579 Mem (even with an ATI Silencer 5 Rev 2). I also have seen post with the higher core clocks but from what I have read and be told 435-450 is about the max so I am not sure if the other posts truley have the 430 core (only way to be 100% is to take of the stock cooler).

Hope this helps.

Tazz

[manoloxxl]

Hy,
i just orderd a GeCube Radeon X850 Pro, 256MB GDDR3, DVI, ViVo, PCIe and will post the results here in hope it will open 16Allright, here my FusesData - i not locked uner the cooler. This will follow tomorrow:
Is it possible to open 16 by Hardmod with this card or have i buyd again an 12P-Ever-Card? Biosflash maybe not work so far i understand here the postings because of the last not existing F.

What is possible with this card?

AtiTool:
Chip: R480
Active Pipelines: 12
Default GPU: 475 (wondering, normaly the card runs on defaukt this way???)
Default MEM: 500
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: FFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: FFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x3E0
GB_PIPE_SELECT: 0x12B84


BTW: First OC with ATiTool with Aircooler goes over core 560! :) When the Watercooler is on, i try more :)

[dolf]

Your fuses (core clock) show that you really have R480 but unfortunately with no chance for 16 pipes. Probably you will try to flash it (the hope dies last) but after, when you will be convinced that it can't have 16 pipes - overclock it and enjoy it. Usually the 12 pipe cards can be clocked higher then equivalent 16 pipe ones ;) .

[manoloxxl]

Your fuses (core clock) show that you really have R480 but unfortunately with no chance for 16 pipes. Probably you will try to flash it (the hope dies last) but after, when you will be convinced that it can't have 16 pipes - overclock it and enjoy it. Usually the 12 pipe cards can be clocked higher then equivalent 16 pipe ones ;) .
Thank you dolf.
Should i flash a Bios from this site or just mod my own bios, same way like on my AGP-Card before? I try it, if it didn´t work, i just overcklock it.

[okydoke]

hey folks i was wondering if someone could help me out here.
I have a sapphire x800gt 256mb. r423 core and with ur standard 12 pipes activated.
I was wondering if i cud flash to a bios to unlock the extra 4.

My ati tool reads:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF35FFF
CONFIG_SUBTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFF61D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GP_PIPE_SELECT 0X29550

thx alot for the help guys, really appreciate it :)

[oc aTI x800GTO 480]

i wAnt to ask:. i hAve the oc aTI x800GTO 480
here is my screenshot;:laugh: )
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1633&stc=1&d=1138045387
Screen03.JPGhttp://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1633&stc=1&d=1138045387
De afbeelding “http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1633&stc=1&d=1138045387” kan niet worden weergegeven, omdat hij fouten bevat.

cAn i, or cAn i not make this 12 pipeline in to a 16 pipe line thingy:eek:


most regars, oc aTI x800GTO 480 :banghead: :D :wtf: :p

[betatestxp]

Well, I tried everything and my Sapphire X800 GTO 256 meg will only run 12 Pipelines.

That's fine though considering I flashed it and Windows now finds it as the X850 and am able to overclock the thing from 400 MHz and 490 MHZ all the way up to 520 MHZ and mem at 621 MHz ( 520 MHz and mem 1242 MHz ) 100% stable :)

It's one fast freakin card :)

================================================== ============================

3DMark03 12,541

AND Athlon 64 3700+ with 1 meg L2 cache ( overclocked higher than the Athlon 64 4000+ ).
800x2 FSB running @1,055x2 MHz.
PCI Express Sapphire X800 GTO 256 meg @520 MHz and mem 1242 MHz
1 GIG DDR 333 running at DDR422.
500 GIG ( 2x250 ) Maxtor DiamondMax 10 with 16 megs cache each, 7,200 rpm running in Raid 0.
40 GIG Maxtor DiamondMax 9 7,200 rpm HD.
16x LG DL DVD DL Burner.
16x Lite-On DL DVD Burner.
SB Audigy 2.
If it can be overclocked . . . . I will do it :laugh:

[manoloxxl]

@dolf
Because my BIOS looks different to my old AGP-Bios, can you please help me again? Also Rabit says it ist a R432? Here is my file:

http://www.manoloxxl.de/treff/bastel/x800gt/bios_850org.bin

[dolf]

@dolf
Because my BIOS looks different to my old AGP-Bios, can you please help me again? Also Rabit says it ist a R432? Here is my file:

http://www.manoloxxl.de/treff/bastel/x800gt/bios_850org.bin


Manoloxxl I can't understand what exactly you want to do with that BIOS. It is for X850(PRO) PCIX, with R480 (RaBit also shows that in "Logging" section), allready configured for 16 pipes on BIOS level.

[manoloxxl]

Hmm, this is the BIOS from the card i postet some posting above:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=60596&postcount=1061

But when you say it is allready configured for 16p... Maybe it will help when i close the lasercut? At time i don´t know if the card have a lasercut. i didn´t look under the cooler yet.

[dolf]

If look under the heat sink you will see nothing for connection. R480 (R430) has no laser cuts (on the front - visible side). As I told you no more pipes are possible ;) .

[manoloxxl]

Ok, thanks again for help. So i just OC the card again. Maybe more luck next time :D

[okydoke]

"hey folks i was wondering if someone could help me out here.
I have a sapphire x800gt 256mb. r423 core and with ur standard 12 pipes activated.
I was wondering if i cud flash to a bios to unlock the extra 4.

My ati tool reads:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF35FFF
CONFIG_SUBTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFF61D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X862
GP_PIPE_SELECT 0X29550

thx alot for the help guys, really appreciate it"

I notice that that there is a "2" at the end of my rom fuses. Im pretty sure the r423 cant get 16 pipes so if 2 quads are unlocked from a max of 12, then shouldnt i have a 4 pipeline card instead of an 8?

Also im a lil edgey right now about removing the cooler so if shadowflare could write me a bios for a r423 sapphire x800gt with samsung 2.0ns memory chips allowing me to get to 12 pipes, that would be EXTREMELY appreciated. :)

[dolf]

Looking the fuses you should stay with 8 pipes whatever BIOS you flash but your card is interesting to see whether I can correctly understand tha meaning of the fuses. Post your BIOS and I will mod it to 12 or 16 pipes. You should remove the cooler and to connect the RIGHT bridge with conductive paint/glue or something similar. But befor that clean the two contact dots with something sharp until copper is reached in order to ensure good contact.

After that it will be necessary to flash modded BIOS (which I will post later on) using modified flashrom. How to do and from where to download - here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100

Good luck

[oc aTI x800GTO 480]

cAn anyon please help me with this cArd ?


i hAve the sAme cArd as you hAve, TURBO edition not gto2 but gto TURBO edition

and i wAs wAnting to Ask you if you could oc from 12 to 16 pipelines. since hAd seen the thing sphere hAd sAid to you. abAuth tring to flAsh the cArd' i have a : e, 7,
just like your'rs dous. 480 chipset ati rAdeon saphirre x800GTO 256 MB 256BIT cArd And 12 pipelines.

could you pleAse inform me if you know more or if you sucseed in oc'ing the cArd in to 16 pipelines.
here is mine screenshot:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639&stc=1&d=1138114334
Screen03.JPG

most regards, x800GTO TURBO


cAse: SuperLanBoy
Motherboard:P5AD2 Premium
Processor: 540 3.2@3.8 G
Headsink: 120XP Thermalright with an 120mm Titan ALU
Memory :D:corsair5400 2×256latencie4-4-4-12 675MHz
Videocard:ati Radeon x800GTO TURBO edition 256 bit?256 MB GDDR3 memory clock =1200MHz corespeed engine clock -VGA =550MHz and ATI cross fire multi -GPU Ready

Harddisk :Maxtor SATA -80 GB HD : 7200RPM + SATA powerconection
PSU: 480 Watt Tagan "with al the new conector s' "

[dolf]

The answer is NO more pipes :cry: .

[G0Dfather]

is it possible to unlock any new Radeon X800/x850 card from 12 to 16 pipelines? because i think that only the card that are produced before oct05 are unlockable

[badsykes]

ATI silencer for X850 is more rare .... :(
anyway there is some hope for my unlockable X850pro..I didn't detach the cooler to see if uit's a laser cut or somthing to unite on the chip.. maybe i can change the fuses to F's all

[infrared]

what? it's the same cooler as the x800 cards use:

ATI Silencer 5 rev.2

[oc aTI x800GTO 480]

cAse: SuperLanBoy
Motherboard:P5AD2 Premium
Processor: 540 3.2@3.8 G
Headsink: 120XP Thermalright with an 120mm Titan ALU
Memory :D:corsair5400 2×256latencie4-4-4-12 675MHz
Videocard:ati Radeon x800GTO TURBO edition 256 bit?256 MB GDDR3 memory clock =1200MHz corespeed engine clock -VGA =550MHz and ATI cross fire multi -GPU Ready

Harddisk :Maxtor SATA -80 GB HD : 7200RPM + SATA powerconection
PSU: 480 Watt Tagan "with al the new conector s' "http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1641&stc=1&d=1138139303
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Afbeelding.jpghttp://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1643&stc=1&d=1138139345
Afbeelding 003.jpghttp://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1644&stc=1&d=1138139355
Afbeelding 004.jpg

[peta01]

what? it's the same cooler as the x800 cards use:

ATI Silencer 5 rev.2

Just be aware of ASUS cards, because they have different PCB layout and fan power connector so no ATI Silencer properly fits on them.

[infrared]

oh right. Thank kinda sucks.

[MrGoodLife]

OK, so here is the rundown:

I have two cards:
1) Sapphire x800GTO AGP - R420 core with 2.0 ns chips (Newegg: The blue one)
2) Sapphire x800GTO AGP - R430 core with 1.6 ns chips (Newegg: The red one (OEM))

I flashed a x800GTO AGP (R430) with x800XL bios. By the way, if your fuses have "F's" and you flash with new bios and pipes still locked, try -newbios switch with atiflash. Anyway, this card is now a x800XL with 16 pipes and I could get the speed up to 420 vpu/ 540 memory. This is with an Artic Silencer. Temps were great but it just crashes past 420.

I also have x800GTO AGP (R420) that can't have the pipes unlocked, and oc'd better than the currently unlocked R430, and this was with stock cooling. Didn't really play with all that much since the unlockable R430 version showed up. I was expecting a higher oc with the R430 version, but I have since read that this core was not a good overclock.

Here is the question for all the experts out there:
Is it worth CAREFULLY taking the silencer off the R430, put it on the R420 to see what the OC capability really is? Or, is a 16 pipe x800GTO (now a x800XL) going to beat a well cooled overclocked x800GTO (R420) everytime? :respect:

[ShadowFlare]

OK, so here is the rundown:

I have two cards:
1) Sapphire x800GTO AGP - R420 core with 2.0 ns chips (Newegg: The blue one)
2) Sapphire x800GTO AGP - R430 core with 1.6 ns chips (Newegg: The red one (OEM))

I flashed a x800GTO AGP (R430) with x800XL bios. By the way, if your fuses have "F's" and you flash with new bios and pipes still locked, try -newbios switch with atiflash. Anyway, this card is now a x800XL with 16 pipes and I could get the speed up to 420 vpu/ 540 memory. This is with an Artic Silencer. Temps were great but it just crashes past 420.

I also have x800GTO AGP (R420) that can't have the pipes unlocked, and oc'd better than the currently unlocked R430, and this was with stock cooling. Didn't really play with all that much since the unlockable R430 version showed up. I was expecting a higher oc with the R430 version, but I have since read that this core was not a good overclock.

Here is the question for all the experts out there:
Is it worth CAREFULLY taking the silencer off the R430, put it on the R420 to see what the OC capability really is? Or, is a 16 pipe x800GTO (now a x800XL) going to beat a well cooled overclocked x800GTO (R420) everytime? :respect:
I'm not completely sure exactly which would be faster, but I'm guessing the one with 16 pipelines unlocked. If you have 3dmark 2005 (or any other version at least 2003), try benchmarking each card with it's max stable overclock.

[MrGoodLife]

The R430 had a higher 3dmark score than the mildly overclocked R420, but only by a couple 100 points.

I was going to RMA the R420, and I didn't want to swap the stock cooler for the Arctic Silencer unless I had a pretty good idea that it could compete with the unlocked R430.

I know it is the only way to know for sure, but I didn't want to risk damaging the R420 version.

Thanks for the input!

[infrared]

Hmm, i'd say your better off leaving the silencer on the r430 card, especially since you've got the 1.6ns memory on it, and 16 pipelines. It's true that the core doesn't overclock very well, but the extra 4 pipelines will make up for that, and the advantage will be with the memory on it.

[sniblit]

I have attached my fuse data. It's a Saphire x800GTO AGP
Shows to be a R430
Just got it today from Newegg
Not too keen on pulling off the fan yet to look at the chips
I've got all of the Fs in the right places according to AtiTool
Is it safe to try the flash?
Havn't flashed a video card before, but have done mobos and other hardware. I just want to make sure I don't turn my new card into a nice piece of wall art. Don't want to have to go back to my geforce5700 either.

[MrGoodLife]

Sounds like the same card I got on Monday.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102608

Funny, looks like they are having a hard time keeping this in stock. Can't imagine why for $193.00

I successfully flashed it with the sapphire x800xl agp 1.6 ns bios and used atiflash. Didn't unlock the pipes the first time, but successfully flashed. Did a little digging and found that you have to add the -newbios switch when using atiflash to make sure no bios setttings are retained. Worked that time. Was able to push the core to 420 and the memory to 545 with 12 pipes. Performance is great, and the temps are low. I can't guarantee it will work on your card, but it sounds like the same card. Do a little research on how to use atiflash, make sure you have a PCI vid card as a backup, and backup your bios before flashing. GOOD LUCK!

[dolf]

I have attached my fuse data. It's a Saphire x800GTO AGP
Shows to be a R430
Just got it today from Newegg
Not too keen on pulling off the fan yet to look at the chips
I've got all of the Fs in the right places according to AtiTool
Is it safe to try the flash?
Havn't flashed a video card before, but have done mobos and other hardware. I just want to make sure I don't turn my new card into a nice piece of wall art. Don't want to have to go back to my geforce5700 either.

It is R430 looking the fuses. If you can clock the core at max. 450MHz for sure it is R430. But you are lucky because the core can be unlocked to 16 pipes with just flashing :D .

How to flash see here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100 and use modified flashrom or -newbios key when using atiflash.
Be carefull with the BIOS type (AGP, PCIX and remember that your card should have bridging chip if it has AGP bus combined with R430).

[reueljoab]

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x3FE4

here are the fuses of my x800pro vivo agp

[infrared]

Sorry reueljoab, doesn't look like it's unlockable. You can always check for a laser cut i guess, you might be lucky.

[peta01]

Sorry reueljoab, doesn't look like it's unlockable. You can always check for a laser cut i guess, you might be lucky.

Oh man wait!
This card IS UNLOCKABLE.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F

[TazzMania]

Sounds like the same card I got on Monday.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102608

Funny, looks like they are having a hard time keeping this in stock. Can't imagine why for $193.00

I successfully flashed it with the sapphire x800xl agp 1.6 ns bios and used atiflash. Didn't unlock the pipes the first time, but successfully flashed. Did a little digging and found that you have to add the -newbios switch when using atiflash to make sure no bios setttings are retained. Worked that time. Was able to push the core to 420 and the memory to 545 with 12 pipes. Performance is great, and the temps are low. I can't guarantee it will work on your card, but it sounds like the same card. Do a little research on how to use atiflash, make sure you have a PCI vid card as a backup, and backup your bios before flashing. GOOD LUCK!


Just wondering if you have tried a modified 800GTO bios ( Dolf modded mine) I have the Sapphire GTO with 430 core and would like to see a compairison with the xl bios benches and the modded gto benches on the same system. Going by your over clock it more than likley not make a huge impact on my performance but you never can tell. :confused:

[infrared]

Oh man wait!
This card IS UNLOCKABLE.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F

Damn... well spotted!

Guess i was half-alseep when i had a look. I'l make sure i'm awake next time
:roll:

[peta01]

Damn... well spotted!

Guess i was half-alseep when i had a look. I'l make sure i'm awake next time
:roll:

Dont worry. I have made the exactly same mistake :rolleyes:

[EvilCook]

here's my X800 GTO2, it came with 16 pipes unlocked. claims to have R430 in ATITool, but i oced the core to 555mhz and the ram to 570mhz, been told that true R430 cores would barely go beyond 450mhz on the core
ill post my 3DMARK2005 and my ATITool settings, can someone tell me if i can flash\mod my card into X800 XT PE?
can i go upto 620mhz on ram ? :confused:
ATITool: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1666&stc=1&d=1138423900

3DMARK2005 results: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1665&stc=1&d=1138419927

[noneed4me2]

Evilcook don't use any x800 bios just x850; the x800 uses either an r423 or r430, Now some r430 bios will work on r480 chipset but i can tell you from personal experience that an r423 bios will not work properly on a r480 card and vice versa. Stick with any x850 version bios with 1.6 mem and you will be fine. The r430 bios was made for the x800xl and i was suprised when i saw the newer GTO2s with this bios as Powercolor is shipping their own version GTO 16p card but its just an x800 xl and will no way clock to your speeds as these are actual r430s.

[dolf]

here's my X800 GTO2, it came with 16 pipes unlocked. claims to have R430 in ATITool, but i oced the core to 555mhz and the ram to 570mhz, been told that true R430 cores would barely go beyond 450mhz on the core
ill post my 3DMARK2005 and my ATITool settings, can someone tell me if i can flash\mod my card into X800 XT PE?
can i go upto 620mhz on ram ? :confused:
ATITool: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1666&stc=1&d=1138423900

3DMARK2005 results: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1665&stc=1&d=1138419927

One or two DVI? Please if possible post your PCB part number (front top-side of the PCB) something like that: PN 109-A47xx-xx. Finally what are your memory chips 1.6ns or not?

[EvilCook]

ill save us all the hassle! it is a R480, samsung 1.6ns board
2 DVIs, {Saphire Radeon X800 GTO2 256MB GDDR III, VIVO, Dual DVI}, i can hookup two monitors if that makes things simpler. (my own ignorance here)

and here it is now, second stage of my OC process:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1669&stc=1&d=1138441733

[dolf]

If you want to flash it to XT or XT PE you should first get your memory to work stable at XT or XT PE speed. With dual DVI and if you can find PN 109-A47401-00 on your PCB it means that you allready have XT which probably deserves new "real" BIOS ;).

[EvilCook]

3rd stage :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/060128/3rdmark561-615.jpg

Core gets too hot, i got a good VGA cooler, but ineed to apply some AS5, will do so in 2 days.
opinion ?

[noneed4me2]

AS5 is the way to go your card is definately a gem but is it going over 80 C? r480s run warm and around 80 load isn't to bad but definately not ideal. Maybe a zalman or ATI silencer might help cool it better and quieter.

[EvilCook]

latest results after some mem tweaks : http://img.techpowerup.org/060128/3dmark_extreme260.jpg

Idle temp is 34C, workload temp is 55-60C

[peta01]

You can be really happy with your GTO2, because its the "new generation" wich is worse than the older for overclocking. I have one with Arctic ATI Silencer and my max stable is 510/580. Lot of these cards even dont reach 500/560.
btw Did you do voltmod?

[EvilCook]

No voltmod, yet
sunday, must get some sleep! eyes hurt!
im waiting till i apply AS5, and i cant get any thermal cleaner on the weekend, so i cant prep for Arctic Silver 5, once i do though, ima voltmod this thing and see how high it goes:)

[reueljoab]

Sorry reueljoab, doesn't look like it's unlockable. You can always check for a laser cut i guess, you might be lucky.

hey, i already have 16pipelines.

[dolf]

3rd stage :)
http://img.techpowerup.org/060128/3rdmark561-615.jpg

Core gets too hot, i got a good VGA cooler, but ineed to apply some AS5, will do so in 2 days.
opinion ?

I have AS3 on my 9800XT (128MB with XT PCB) and AS4 Rev.2 on my X800XT flashed to XT PE and can say that both rocks :D. You shouldn't worry for the temperatures any more ;) .
You can use that post http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8312&highlight=vga+bios at minimum to test XT BIOSes for compability of the fan control with your card. If after loading of the XT BIOS the fan is still spinning the BIOS is compatible. Then you can flash and to be sure that it will work after the flash.

[geos]

Hey all!

Do you think this card is flashable?

http://www.s-george.de/pics/ATITOOL.gif

Thaks for your help.

[noneed4me2]

yeah you can flash it:D Congrats Please post what card it is and manufacturer.

[geos]

My card is a Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition with Samsung 1.6 ns GDDR3. It is an AGP card with red PCB. I ordered it some days ago at Amazon.

[Sly.P.I.]

I have 256mb at 256bit ram and R420 with only 8 pipelines
There is laser cut.

Think I attatched screen shot of atitool!

Will laser cut mod work?
Will flash work?
I'd be happy with 12 pipes, 16 would be smashing!!
Maybe flash with X800pro AIW??

What about editing a custom bios?

It runs fine at 500/500

Any help please..... Sly

[geos]

Next question:

After you told me that my card is flashable, I started searching for a new bios for my card. Unfortunatelly all I found was a X800XL bios with VIVO :( at: http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/

But my card is a nonVIVO. Does anyone know where I might find a nonVIVO bios? Or does anybody know how to edit the bios with a hexeditor to enable all 16 pipes? Or is it sufficient just to disable VIVO with the rabit bios editor.

More than one question, sorry! :o

Thaks a lot.

[noneed4me2]

geos,you may not want but looking at the core by removing the heatsink might be necsessary ,as i have not seen any of that particular card being flashed before and you want a positive ID to find the best compatible bios. Guessing could bork your card. If you do decide to id your core you will need to replace the thermal paste, maybe an aftermarket cooler wouldn't hurt especially if you want to overclock. Zalman and Arctic Cooling make good coolers for your card. As far as bios editing just use Rabit http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/ATi-Radeon-BIOS-Tuner.shtml . You can ask Shadowflare to mod your bios if he still does that or try it yourself, if you mod your own bios you won't have to worry about matching another bios and skip removing your stock cooler.

[geos]

Hey noneed4me2,

thanks for the info. I've already had a look at rabit and modified my original bios, but in fact I don't know if everything is correct. I'll try to contact Shadowflare for some details. Thanks for your help.

[geos]

I just saved my bios (AGP Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition with Samsung 1.6 ns GDDR3) to file. Is anyone able to mod it so that I can use all 16 pipes? I read a howto, but I am to afraid of killing my card. Thanks to all for your help.

[dolf]

I just saved my bios (AGP Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade Edition with Samsung 1.6 ns GDDR3) to file. Is anyone able to mod it so that I can use all 16 pipes? I read a howto, but I am to afraid of killing my card. Thanks to all for your help.

Here you are your modded to 16 pipes BIOS. Fash it using modified flashrom (or atiflash with -newbios option).

You can download modified flashrom from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100

Let us know how the card perform after the pipe unlocking :toast: .

[geos]

Thank you very much! I owe you a beer! :toast:

[Sly.P.I.]

R420, fuses:

I posted this all over and nobody has told me if I can unlock my pipes!!

Please help!!

Ste

[infrared]

Sorry, i'm afraid the last quad can't be unlocked.

[Sly.P.I.]

What about the middle quad - to make 12 ???

Can that be unlocked and leave the last one alone??

Thanks for response.... Ste

[Sly.P.I.]

Or rather the third quad, to make 12 pipelines??
Ste

[EvilCook]

SL, i will personally check your case once i my wednesday final exam is over.
till then you have todo some research on your own, try to look up your Rabit IDs within the INF file see if they match different cores and models, that might give you some indication if there is hope. the Core software reading are usally BIOS dictated, not hardware, if you want to be sure you should look directly at the card, remove the HSF and look at the core itself.

this would give us some hint to weather or not you can really unlock those pipes
good luck mate

[infrared]

Or rather the third quad, to make 12 pipelines??
Ste

Sorry, not looking good for 12 either :(

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=57039&postcount=992

[geos]

Hmmm,

I just tried to flash my card but flashrom told me there was an ERROR and didn't flash my card. Well card is still living, but I'd really like to flash it. I used the modified flashrom:

flashrom -f -p 0 newbios.bin

Everything ok I think. :confused: Any ideas?

[dolf]

Hmmm,

I just tried to flash my card but flashrom told me there was an ERROR and didn't flash my card. Well card is still living, but I'd really like to flash it. I used the modified flashrom:

flashrom -f -p 0 newbios.bin

Everything ok I think. :confused: Any ideas?

Try also with atiflash using -newbios switch.

[geos]

Thanks for your help! All 16 pipes are working now. I've got an increase of about 600 points in 3DMark05 and about 300 in 3DMark06. This weekend I'll buy a new cooler to get my card watercooled. Any idea which one you should buy at the moment? Innovatek?

[tsunamitaly]

Hi,
this is mi first post. Sorry for my bad english. :o
I'd like to know if my X800gto (r430 mem 1,6ns) is moddable.
Her is the snapshot of the ati tool's window.

Tank you for help me.

Greetings from Italy:D

[infrared]

Yep, that's moddable.

Actually that's the first R430 core i've seen with the unlockable pipes!!

Could you add your bios as an attachment please? You can save it to file from the miscellaneous section in ATITool. Then someone will modify it to 16 pipes for you ;)

[dang49]

[QUOTE=tsunamitaly]Hi,
this is mi first post. Sorry for my bad english. :o
I'd like to know if my X800gto (r430 mem 1,6ns) is moddable.
Her is the snapshot of the ati tool's window.

Tank you for help me.

Greetings from Italy:D[/QUOT

It reads a R480 I think . . .

[blobby750©]

Hi,
this is mi first post. Sorry for my bad english. :o
I'd like to know if my X800gto (r430 mem 1,6ns) is moddable.
Her is the snapshot of the ati tool's window.

Tank you for help me.

Greetings from Italy:D
There are no GTO2s with R430 core. The new ones with 16 pipes enabled have just different bios "X800 XL R480". Dump your bios, edit it with notepad and you will see that you really have R480 core. !

[infrared]

blobby, did you even take a look at tsunamitaly's fuse data. Or saying that, do you even know what it means. Your post really wasn't helpful. Please keep useless comments like that to yourself.

I do see what your getting at. The core of tsuanamitaly's card is an R480. This doesn't change the fact that's it's moddable to 16 pipes, by the same process.

[dang49]

Hi, I have success with the bios mod here
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8060
for Sapphire X800 GTO AGP with R430

Summary:
ATI Tool to save the bios to "original.bin"
Copy that to "16pipes.bin"
Load "16pipes.bin" into hex editor; address 7A was 0x61; change to 0x60; Save "16pipes.bin"
Load "16pipes,bin" into RaBiT and re-save
Make a boot floppy; copy atiflash and "16pipes.bin"; reboot to floppy
Command: atiflash -p -f 0 16pipes.bin; reboot to OS

I downloaded 3Dmark03 v1.2 and result = 4920; about the same as an X800XL I think.
The fuzzy cube in ATI Tool average FPS went from 190 with 12 pipes to 223 wit 16.
No overclocks.

Regards,
Dan

[ShadowFlare]

Hi, I have success with the bios mod here
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8060
for Sapphire X800 GTO AGP with R430

Summary:
ATI Tool to save the bios to "original.bin"
Copy that to "16pipes.bin"
Load "16pipes.bin" into hex editor; address 7A was 0x61; change to 0x60; Save "16pipes.bin"
Load "16pipes,bin" into RaBiT and re-save
Make a boot floppy; copy atiflash and "16pipes.bin"; reboot to floppy
Command: atiflash -p -f 0 16pipes.bin; reboot to OS

I downloaded 3Dmark03 v1.2 and result = 4920; about the same as an X800XL I think.
The fuzzy cube in ATI Tool average FPS went from 190 with 12 pipes to 223 wit 16.
No overclocks.

Regards,
Dan
What hex editor is that? Maybe that's one I could recommend in my modding guide, since it is easier to see the offsets in that.

[dang49]

What hex editor is that? Maybe that's one I could recommend in my modding guide, since it is easier to see the offsets in that.
It is 010Editor (Shareware)
http://www.sweetscape.com/010editor

[tsunamitaly]

I saved my bios an attached it in this post but as a .txt fle because i wasn't allowed by the forum to send it as .bin :shadedshu I hope thats's not a problem :eek:

I understand that looking both my ati tool screnn and the bios you think that my core is an r480 but it is an r430, no doubt on it!

Her is a picture of my clean core.

I don't know why ati tools looks my core as an r480 :confused:

Thanks again.

[peta01]

!

Hi Blobby,
Just two things:
1) Have you ever seen GTO2 with R430 core?
2) Do you know what is the difference between GTO and GTO2?

[dang49]

I saved my bios an attached it in this post but as a .txt fle because i wasn't allowed by the forum to send it as .bin :shadedshu I hope thats's not a problem :eek:

I understand that looking both my ati tool screnn and the bios you think that my core is an r480 but it is an r430, no doubt on it!

Her is a picture of my clean core.

I don't know why ati tools looks my core as an r480 :confused:

Thanks again.

I'm convinced. Maybe ATI Tool reports the string as "R480" merely because that is what is stored in your bios (it is, I checked).
A note of caution:
I had a peek at your bios.txt. It is similar to my bios (Sapphire X800GTO) but there are some notable differences. The white space in my binary data are 0x00 (NULL) but yor file has 0x20 (ASCII Space char). This may be a corruption by the text editor if you used one. Maybe you could zip the bios.bin and send that or just rename it to something like "bios.dat" or just "bios".

[tsunamitaly]

I'm convinced. Maybe ATI Tool reports the string as "R480" merely because that is what is stored in your bios (it is, I checked).
A note of caution:
I had a peek at your bios.txt. It is similar to my bios (Sapphire X800GTO) but there are some notable differences. The white space in my binary data are 0x00 (NULL) but yor file has 0x20 (ASCII Space char). This may be a corruption by the text editor if you used one. Maybe you could zip the bios.bin and send that or just rename it to something like "bios.dat" or just "bios".

This is my zipped bios ;)

[dang49]

This is my zipped bios ;)
Well, the 0x20 bytes are still there. If you are sure this is the dump as ATI Tool made it I guess it is OK. I would again dump the bios to "original.bin" just to be sure of having a good backup copy.

[ElmerFu]

I was wondering based on this information if there is anyway of getting 16 pipes?

Thanks

Neil

[NoSvOrAx]

I have an Asus Ax800Pro TVD w/ Vivo 256MB AGP and from what I've seen I'm pretty sure I can unlock the remaining 4 pipes (currently have 12). I have both the 2 important F's and a 1 at the end of the CONFIG_ROM_FUSES. My question is can instead of just flashing to a 16 pipe bios and then going back to my original bios with the pipes open, can I just upgrade to a 16 pipe xt, xt pe or a bios from one of the x850 cards?

Here is a screen shot of the fuse data from atitool and a copy of my current original bios. Forgot to take a picture of the gpu when I switched the hsf for a water block, but I can remove it and take one if need be.


P.S.
This site, forum, and you wonderfully helpful people all totally rock! :toast:

[infrared]

Yep, that's unlockable! :D

It depends on what core your card has, if you have the R480 core, the x850xt should be ideal!

Thanks for the compliment NoSvOrAx :)

Elmur Fu,

Sorry, but your card can't be unlocked to 16 pipes :(

[NoSvOrAx]

Yep, that's unlockable! :D

It depends on what core your card has, if you have the R480 core, the x850xt should be ideal!



atitool says I have a R420 ;) core. Is that the truth or just what the card bios? If I pull the gpu block off what am I looking for to find the core type? If I do in fact have a R420 core how far can I take the card? Or will I be limited to just unlocking the 4 remaining pipes?

[tsunamitaly]

Yep, that's moddable.

Actually that's the first R430 core i've seen with the unlockable pipes!!

Could you add your bios as an attachment please? You can save it to file from the miscellaneous section in ATITool. Then someone will modify it to 16 pipes for you ;)


I can't find in the list (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/) a modified bios for my vga: i guess i need a x800xl bios but i can't see anyone witn samsung 1,6 (only 2,0). I only find a club3d x800xl bios that seems to be with samsung 1,6. Maybe i can try with this?
I have to be careful because it's the first time i flash any bios :)

[peta01]

Well, the 0x20 bytes are still there. If you are sure this is the dump as ATI Tool made it I guess it is OK. I would again dump the bios to "original.bin" just to be sure of having a good backup copy.

This should be problem of bad CRC. Try to open that bios using Rabit. If it sais corrupted CRC then save it to fix it.
You can dumb video bios and it should have bad CRC. Be always careful not to flash bios with bad CRC. Many cards can not be reflashed after using a bad CRC bios and then you can throw them out of the window.

[tsunamitaly]

This should be problem of bad CRC. Try to open that bios using Rabit. If it sais corrupted CRC then save it to fix it.
You can dumb video bios and it should have bad CRC.

I did it and Rabit don't say me about this in the log. To be on the safe side i saved the log as a .txt file and attached it on this post. Would you take a look at that? ;)
I really can't throw my card out of the window :(

Is it possible that there are differences between dave's bios and mine just because his is for r430 and mine is for r480?

:confused:

[peta01]

I did it and Rabit don't say me about this in the log. To be on the safe side i saved the log as a .txt file and attached it on this post. Would you take a look at that? ;)
I really can't throw my card out of the window :(

Is it possible that there are differences between dave's bios and mine just because his is for r430 and mine is for r480?

:confused:

Yep that should be the difference R430/R480.
If the CRC is bad Rabit alerts you with an alert message imediately after opening the bios. According to that log it seems ok.

btw. R430 card can work with R480 bios and vice versa. But I do not recomend you to do this.

And are you sure that your card has 1.6ns memory. I have not seen any R430 together with 1.6ns mem yet.

[tsunamitaly]

And are you sure that your card has 1.6ns memory. I have not seen any R430 together with 1.6ns mem yet.

I think so because the mem chips are labeled as 1.6ns (as you can see in the attachment). The sign on theme says (...GC16). Is it correct?

Just one question: the first message on Rabit's log was "! There are problems with the driver RaBiT.sys!
Readed from file: 57856 bytes, ROM len: 57856 bytes". Can you tell something me about this? I don't think it is important but i repeat: I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. ;)

Thank's a lot :respect:

[peta01]

I think so because the mem chips are labeled as 1.6ns (as you can see in the attachment). The sign on theme says (...GC16). Is it correct?

Just one question: the first message on Rabit's log was "! There are problems with the driver RaBiT.sys!
Readed from file: 57856 bytes, ROM len: 57856 bytes". Can you tell something me about this? I don't think it is important but i repeat: I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. ;)

Thank's a lot :respect:


There are problems with the driver RaBiT.sys! - This is OK.
You read your memory labeling correctly, it really seems to be 1.6ns.

Good luck with flashing :toast:

[Lt_JWS]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9759/capture222006105318pm1te.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
What can you guys tell me from this screenshot?

[tsunamitaly]

Good luck with flashing :toast:

I DID IT!!! :toast:
I flashed my card with a club3d bios and i'm testing it but i realized an increase of the gpu temperature of the order of 2-3° c. Moreover after all reboots of my system, windows reads two unknowned peripheals. Maybe i used a vivo bios? :eek:
Except this the card seems to work perfectly with an increas of performance of about 15-20%.

[peta01]

I DID IT!!! :toast:
I flashed my card with a club3d bios and i'm testing it but i realized an increase of the gpu temperature of the order of 2-3° c. Moreover after all reboots of my system, windows reads two unknowned peripheals. Maybe i used a vivo bios? :eek:
Except this the card seems to work perfectly with an increas of performance of about 15-20%.

Congrats ;)
The two unknown devices should be something related to old not properly unisntalled Ati drivers. Everytime you want to install new Ati driver you have to uninstall the old one first.
If your new bios has enabled VIVO and your card does not have it then it is OK and there should be no unknown devices.

[tsunamitaly]

Congrats ;)
The two unknown devices should be something related to old not properly unisntalled Ati drivers. Everytime you want to install new Ati driver you have to uninstall the old one first.
If your new bios has enabled VIVO and your card does not have it then it is OK and there should be no unknown devices.

Ok, now i'm easy ;)
I would never have did it without you :respect:
This forum was a wonderful discovery for me :toast:
Thanks again

[pkruger]

Hi,

I have a GIGABYTE GV-RX80256D. Attached is the screen capture from ATITool. Any suggestions for this card?

Regards,
Pieter

[badsykes]

pkruger: those fuses are bad .... no unlocking in the easy and sure way...I have those on C3d X850pro :(

[bgiovanny]

Help Alive Asus Exstrem X850PRO 12P To Asus X850XT PE 16P

X compliments the site.

Reading her various discussions I have flashato my X850PRO Vivo in X850XTPE with this bios:
Asus X850 XT PE (PCI-E) 256 MB Dec 1st 2004 4:15 AM Sep 29th 2005 7:00 AM 540 / 590 Samsungs 1.6

All ok, but have the Pipelines remained 12, as I do to bring her to 16???

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4217/ati5hl.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ati5hl.jpg)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7686/ati0mr.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ati0mr.jpg)


x Flashare the bios I have used: flashrom16p.zip

ok, as to decontrol the card to the level hardware x to train the 4 pipelines???

I attach the photos of my card:


http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7546/dscn4425large3ja.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4425large3ja.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2144/dscn4427large6ye.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4427large6ye.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5623/dscn4428large3zm.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4428large3zm.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2773/dscn4429large9pg.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4429large9pg.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3486/dscn4431large4dx.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4431large4dx.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1219/dscn4432large1av.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4432large1av.jpg)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/455/dscn4433large0nb.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4433large0nb.jpg)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3281/12p3ef.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12p3ef.jpg)

Help My...

[infrared]

When you flash using either flashrom or atiflash, try adding -newbios to the command line.

e.g.

atiflash -p -f -newbios 0 [bios name].bin

flashrom -p -f -newbios 0 [bios name].bin

The second line of your fuse data shows that you cannot unlock 16 pipes though. I can't see any lazer cuts that you can bridge either :(

[bgiovanny]

Hi, I have used:
flashrom16p.zip
with the following procedure:
flashrom - p - f 0 [bios name] .bin

The flash is always ok but the pipelines 12...

What to do???

[infrared]

Hmm, unfortunatly then it doesn't look like you can get to the last 4 pipelines. They're hardware locked. :(

Sorry.

[bgiovanny]

TKS... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[RatusNatus]

Hi Blobby,
Just two things:
1) Have you ever seen GTO2 with R430 core?
2) Do you know what is the difference between GTO and GTO2?


1-There are a lots of GTO2 VIVO with a 430 core.
2-With GTO2 you will have 16P anyway. With GTO is just a maybe.

[peta01]

1-There are a lots of GTO2 VIVO with a 430 core.
2-With GTO2 you will have 16P anyway. With GTO is just a maybe.

My God, again. :shadedshu
THERE ARE NO X800GTO2 WITH R430 CORE. If you think you have saw one, try to look under cooler. You will always see R480.
Some newer GTO2s have different bios ("R480 X800 XL") which makes the card look like it has R430 core, because they have different device ID - 554D. Older GTO2s have deivece id: 5D4F.

[tyellbee]

My God, again. :shadedshu
THERE ARE NO X800GTO2 WITH R430 CORE. If you think you have saw one, try to look under cooler. You will always see R480.
Some newer GTO2s have different bios ("R480 X800 XL") which makes the card look like it has R430 core, because they have different device ID - 554D. Older GTO2s have deivece id: 5D4F.
Anyone know anything about the new x800gto² with blue pcb and no external power conector??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102674

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102675

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16565&vpn=100130%20(102-A47487-10-AT)&manufacture=SAPPHIRE

I read about someone that removed the heatsink and it was using a r430 core... Since those "new" x800gto² use blue pcb and don't have external power conector it's possible isnt it?

[peta01]

Anyone know anything about the new x800gto² with blue pcb and no external power conector??
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102674

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102675

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=16565&vpn=100130%20(102-A47487-10-AT)&manufacture=SAPPHIRE

I read about someone that removed the heatsink and it was using a r430 core... Since those "new" x800gto² use blue pcb and don't have external power conector it's possible isnt it?

I have not heard about these new blue PCBs yet. But it seems like a crap. X800GTO2 without external power connector is like a car with three wheels. You would not be probably able to unlock to 16p, because of lack of power :shadedshu And you would not reach the same clock as with older GTO2s.

[infrared]

That just seems so incredibly pointless

[tyellbee]

I have not heard about these new blue PCBs yet. But it seems like a crap. X800GTO2 without external power connector is like a car with three wheels. You would not be probably able to unlock to 16p, because of lack of power :shadedshu And you would not reach the same clock as with older GTO2s.
That's exactly what happened... The same user that said he checked and the card had a r430 core said he couldn't mod it to 16 pipelines... An it overclocked really bad... Too bad he returned it before he could post the fuses...

As we speak i am only running 12 pipes thats the problem, i also checked, and its also a R430 core, i just pulled the HS off and checked, as of right now though its only running 12 Pipes @ 400/500 and the card can't even get to 450 on the core before it locks up, all in all i am very disapointed.
http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=5908685&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=1

Since it is called x800gto², i think it should mod to a x800xl, since the x800xl don't use external power conection too.... Maybe he didn't use the modified flashrom... But i still don't think they should call it x800gto².... People will buy those thinking about the "regular" x800gto², not this one...

[peta01]

I still dont believe that Sapphire should make such a cheat on us. They said that all GTO2s will have R480 core and 1.6ns memory. And so it was untill today... I would like to ask that guy where did he buy that card (if he wasnt cheated by someone, its very easy to exchange GTO for GTO2).
Most R430 core would not reach 430MHz, you must have a very big luck to run it at 450 MHz. That is why could not get more.
btw. Most X800XL have external power connector. Generaly most of all X800 cards with 16 pipes have it, otherwise they dont perform well at overclocking.

[noneed4me2]

these newer GTO2s just seem to be rebagded XL's, at least there 16p but I think Sapphire should stop selling those as GTO2s as they don't overclock to like an r480 which everybody now assumes that thats what the GTO2s have always come with. A standard GTO monicer like Powercolors GTO 16 would be more appropriate. not all XLs have the pci/e power connector, ATIs reference design didn't http://firingsquad.com/media/article_image.asp?fs_article_id=1605&pic_id=03 neither did Sapphires http://www.penstarsys.com/reviews/video/sapphire/x800xl/

[tsunamitaly]

Hi all,
i'm testing my x800gto@x800xl 16 pipes (R430) and at the moment everithing is ok (i hope so :D ).
I'm tring to overclock core and mem freq and my max result was @425/540 :wtf:
I know that it's normal for the core R430 but i was surprised about memories because I have 1,6 ns modules. :mad:
Is it possible that the system can't allows an excessive asinc with core and mem? :confused:
Would the bios be wrong?
More suggestions?

Thanks

[peta01]

Hi all,
i'm testing my x800gto@x800xl 16 pipes (R430) and at the moment everithing is ok (i hope so :D ).
I'm tring to overclock core and mem freq and my max result was @425/540 :wtf:
I know that it's normal for the core R430 but i was surprised about memories because I have 1,6 ns modules. :mad:
Is it possible that the system can't allows an excessive asinc with core and mem? :confused:
Would the bios be wrong?
More suggestions?

Thanks

Try VoltModing the core. You can gain 20-30 MHz more, even with air cooling. 540MHz is not so bad for your mem. Does your card have external power connector?

[infrared]

I didn't get anything from volt-modding the core, but it's always worth a try. Even at 1.7v the core wouldn't go any faster. The volt mod was working ok, because the temperature was rising as the volts increased. I got loads from volt-modding my memory though, with the vdd and vddq mods i got 610mhz with my 2ns memory :D

[peta01]

But his max core is 425MHz, your is 480MHz. I am sure that tsunamitaly will be able to hit 450 MHz with VoltMod and air cooling.

[tsunamitaly]

Try VoltModing the core. You can gain 20-30 MHz more, even with air cooling. 540MHz is not so bad for your mem. Does your card have external power connector?

Unfortunetly my card have not external power connector. I guessed that 1,6ns mems can go above 600 mhz. This is the reason of my surprise. My card is already cooled by zalman vf700AlCu and temps are very good.
I think i'm not able to get a vmod without making mistakes :o so i think i'm fine with this freq ;)

[Fireye]

My x800gto fireblade from sapphire reports:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES - 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES - 0xFFFFFF9E

... any chance to unlock it?

[infrared]

Sorry, doesn't look like it unfortunatly :(

[RatusNatus]

That just seems so incredibly pointless

Sorry Infrared but i dont think so.

The MOD is to make a GTO2 work like a X850XTPE. With 430 its not possible and its important.

Cheers:)

Edit fom here:

Hummm, on fuses it is really pointless, sorry.

[infrared]

lol, it's alright.

having an R430 core is bad enough since it doesn't overclock very far, but not being able to unlock to 16 pipes is terrible. I still can't believe sapphire bought out such a card. :wtf:

[peta01]

Does anyone have a picture of GTO2 with R430 core. I still dont believe this :)

[infrared]

I agree. I havn't seen the card yet, I'm just going on the links that were posted in the last page that show the card without the power connector. I think someone's just packaged the wrong card as the gto2.

[crunchy]

Hello, I purchased one of the first ATI RADEON branded X800 PRO cards when they were first released

Can I open up the extra pipes or overclock this?


Here are the specs

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 4A49
Chip Type R420
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 475.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 450.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF1E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4


All of your help and expertise is appreciated

thank you!

-edit-

okay the core overclocked to 546.75Mhz (memory at stock) It held steady for a while and whenever ATiTool tried to step the frequency higher it would show errors. Temerature held steady at 80-83 degress Celsius. Then crash - black screen. Next I tried memory and took it to 564.75Mhz (GPU at stock) with no errors but got nervous and at this point and hit abort, I thought I could smell a faint burning smell, although it may have been my imagination. What is a safe overclock for everyday use on this card with stock cooler but in a well ventilated case?

[dolf]

Hello, I purchased one of the first ATI RADEON branded X800 PRO cards when they were first released

Can I open up the extra pipes or overclock this?


Here are the specs

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 4A49
Chip Type R420
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 475.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 450.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF1E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4


All of your help and expertise is appreciated

thank you!

-edit-

okay the core overclocked to 546.75Mhz (memory at stock) It held steady for a while and whenever ATiTool tried to step the frequency higher it would show errors. Temerature held steady at 80-83 degress Celsius. Then crash - black screen. Next I tried memory and took it to 564.75Mhz (GPU at stock) with no errors but got nervous and at this point and hit abort, I thought I could smell a faint burning smell, although it may have been my imagination. What is a safe overclock for everyday use on this card with stock cooler but in a well ventilated case?

Looking the fuses it can't be unlocked to 16 pipes but having in mind that this card is of the very first batch comes out (I consider that there is chance) it is good to try hardmod and to see what wiil happen. Remove the cooler and inspect tha bridge area. You should connect the left bridge with something conductive (paint, glue, soldering) but before that clear with something sharp the contact dots.

After the hard mod conduct the fuse research again and post results. On the BIOS level you already are with 16 pipes :D .

Good luck

[tdbone1]

i just got this card
SAPPHIRE 100600-Red Radeon X800PRO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102465
http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/o/howet/fuse.JPG http://bellsouthpwp.net/h/o/howet/fuse2.JPG

note atitool shows it as 12 pipes currently

could someone tell me what can be done with this card?
i think the ram is 2.0ns

i let atitool run "find max core" and it got upto 605mhz b4 freezing and upon reboot and starting atitool it says last know working frequency
for my mem i got upto 630mhz b4 it also froze (well b4 monitor shutoff anyhow) and upon reboot and start of atitool it said that was last know working freq

note: i seen yellow blips on the rotating 3d box way before i ever hit those speeds on both core and mem

what does that mean?

[peta01]

Those yellow blips on the rotating 3d box were artifacts. If some artifacts appear it means that your card is not stable at this clock and you have to decrease it.
Your memory is 1.6ns, because most of 2.0ns memories cant work at 630MHz.
Your fuses data sais that unlocking pipes is not possible, but you should try the hardmod(connect bridge on the GPU).

[tdbone1]

Those yellow blips on the rotating 3d box were artifacts. If some artifacts appear it means that your card is not stable at this clock and you have to decrease it.
Your memory is 1.6ns, because most of 2.0ns memories cant work at 630MHz.
Your fuses data sais that unlocking pipes is not possible, but you should try the hardmod(connect bridge on the GPU).


peta01 i think my mem is 2.0 cause on the chip it says g20 and i read that somewhere it said that is 2.0ns (although that might be wrong) i sure hope it is 1.6ns

dont forget that 630mhz is the speed at which my monitor turned off and i was seeing tons and tons of yellow artificats at that point and maybe even 75mhz b4 that point is where artifacts began to come into pic

anyhow im not sure which thread that is that you suggested about "hardmod(connect bridge on the GPU)" so if you can give me the link that can explain howto do this i would appreciate it

i will look for "hardmod" and "connect bridge on gpu" and see if it comes up with anything

and thnx for the reply

[peta01]

peta01 i think my mem is 2.0 cause on the chip it says g20 and i read that somewhere it said that is 2.0ns (although that might be wrong) i sure hope it is 1.6ns

dont forget that 630mhz is the speed at which my monitor turned off and i was seeing tons and tons of yellow artificats at that point and maybe even 75mhz b4 that point is where artifacts began to come into pic

anyhow im not sure which thread that is that you suggested about "hardmod(connect bridge on the GPU)" so if you can give me the link that can explain howto do this i would appreciate it

i will look for "hardmod" and "connect bridge on gpu" and see if it comes up with anything

and thnx for the reply

Here is the link for the hardmod: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100

[tdbone1]

has anyone had any success with the "hardmod" and my card?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=9123

if anyone can tell me what i can actually do with this card i would appreciate it

[tyellbee]

CHIPE NAME: R480
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: FFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: FFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROMFUSES: 0x261

No softmod in this one... But is there a hardmod? I don't think so cause if it is really r480 as Atitool reports there's no hardmod to make the pipes avaliable again is it?

[dolf]

CHIPE NAME: R480
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: FFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: FFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROMFUSES: 0x261

No softmod in this one... But is there a hardmod? I don't think so cause if it is really r480 as Atitool reports there's no hardmod to make the pipes avaliable again is it?

You can forget about more pipes with these fuses :cry: .

[CL0uDXii]

1882


How many pipes can this be modded 2, or can this card even be modded and how??

[infrared]

I'm afraid your fuse data indicates that your card can't be unlocked, sorry :(

[CL0uDXii]

Dude not even with a hard mod (laser cut mod)???

[dolf]

1882


How many pipes can this be modded 2, or can this card even be modded and how??

I also think that you can't even have 12 pipes with these fuses but no offence if you try to connect the right bridge and to see what will happen. Please post the fuses again after the laser cut connection.

Good luck

[nicksoti]

Hi from Greece.

I have a gecube GTO card, 430 core.

Ati tool readings: CONFIG DIE FUSES :0xFFFFFFFF, CONF SUBSTRATE FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E

Acording to what I read in previes posts, my chip should have a laser cut, if i bridge it it will unlock.

BUT, i noticed something strange.

If you carefully look at the top right of the picture of an R430 chip, you will see that there are not any bridges for lazer to cut. The small copper traces seen at R420 chips don't exist in r430's. So where is the lazercut? Maybe R430's can't be modded that way?

I dont want to remove my stock cooling for nothing, so I need this info before.

Thanks in advance and congrats for good info in here.




edit: looked at many photos of X800XL - GTO R430 cores, and none had those traces or dots that some r420-r480 chips have. Any idea; Maby laser cuts are somwhere else in mine? A resistor maby? Remind you that my card doesn't seem to be hardware locked in the core, according to those 0x... numbers

[dolf]

R430, R480 haven't laser cuts (at minimum) on the front side. Of course they can't be modded with connection of the laser cut/s. R420 and R423 have laser cuts on the front side and sometimes could be modded to 12 or even to 16 pipes depending on the fuse values.

Definitely your card will remain with 12 pipes with the fuses shown :( .

[nicksoti]

I thought 0xFFFFFFFF value means that there is somenthing out of the core that prevents unlocking, like a laser cut or resistor value - placement. But nobody knows what it is for sure right?

Thanks for the responce anyway.

[dolf]

We know (I think 99% sure) what that it means. Fuses (DIE, SUBSTRATE) are a hardware level pipe "configurator". They exactly show how many and which exactly pipes (pipe quads) should work. The swiching is done permanently by means of switches (laser cuts on the back side of the core). Unfortunately it can't be fixed .

On some cores only 8 pipes are enabled originaly but on the hardware level they are 12 for instance (some X800SE's with R420 or R423). That kind of cards could be unlocked with connecting one bridge and flashing new BIOS.

Some cores comes with 16 working pipes on hardware level but locked on BIOS level :D . They need to be unlocked.

In both cases locked or unlocked will be the card could be exactly predicted knowing the fuses ;) .

[nicksoti]

So you say mine has lazer cuts but not accesible right? I can recall somewhere you wrote about some resistors at the back of the pcb and the relasionship between them and lazer cuts.

To make a long story short, you say that no R430 or 480 card without both "f" values in fuses can unlock extra 4 pipes right? 0xffffffff isn't enough? Too bad.

Thanks again for the responce.

[CL0uDXii]

Dudes, im really thinking of doing the laser cut connection on my x800se, is this mod reversable if it dont unlock no pipes, i an going to use a graphite pencil to connect the 2 circles, cant the pencil mark be rubed off if not successfull??????

[infrared]

yep, it's easier done with a conductive pen. Graphite doesn't stick well to the silicone, and it's basically a pain in the a** to get a good connection.

just using some rubbing alcohol will take it off. You won't even be able to tell they were connected if you use a pen, whereas with a pencil there are often scratch marks.

Good luck ;)

[Jello.01]

Hi, I was wondering if I could unlock any pipelines by softmodding my card, I really don't want to hard mod until I get another card.

Here is what atitool says:
http://i1.tinypic.com/op8hli.jpg
or attached image

Thanks:)

[CrAsHeR]

I'have bought an X800GT By Powercolor
It got red PCB

Here'are my Fuses
CORE R423
GPU CLOCK: 475.00MHz
MEM CLOCK: 490.00MHz
0xFFFF3FFF
0xFFFFFF9D

Is there any pipeline i can revive? In negative way, what bios could i flash in order to increase performance as lot's of users here did?

Thanks ;)

[dolf]

Unfortunately the fuses show that you already have the max. possible pipes (8 pipes).

[CrAsHeR]

Unfortunately the fuses show that you are already have the max. possible pipes (8 pipes).


Which bios could i flash in order to increase performance? :) can't i try to unlock 16pipes? (If yes, which bios is needed for R423 With Samsung 2.0?)

Thanks ;)

[ShadowFlare]

I'have bought an X800GT By Powercolor
It got red PCB

Here'are my Fuses
CORE R423
GPU CLOCK: 475.00MHz
MEM CLOCK: 490.00MHz
0xFFFF3FFF
0xFFFFFF9D

Is there any pipeline i can revive? In negative way, what bios could i flash in order to increase performance as lot's of users here did?

Thanks ;)
Hmm, it sounds like you are referring to what I posted here about various X800 GT cards: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056

[Loritus]

Please helpme, I have a Sapphire x800gto 256mb PCI-E. It has memories 1.6ns and core r480.
This is the screen of atitools. Can my card mod to x850xt? and how?

[tyellbee]

Please helpme, I have a Sapphire x800gto 256mb PCI-E. It has memories 1.6ns and core r480.
This is the screen of atitools. Can my card mod to x850xt? and how?
Yes, it can be modded :toast:

Just follow this guide: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

[Loritus]

Yes, it can be modded :toast:

Just follow this guide: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

I can belive it. I´m from argentina and I bougth this card in 195usd and the x800gto2 sale 320. jaja. I will try it. Thanks

[Loritus]

Yes, it can be modded :toast:

Just follow this guide: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

what bios I have to use? x800gto2 mod to 16p? but my card don´t have dual dvi.

[amiiam]

im 99.9% sure that atitool lies
you have r430
try to overclock ur card - it shouldnt go above 450 mhz core
flash x800xl bios - for my r430 fireblade it works perfectly

[Loritus]

im 99.9% sure that atitool lies
you have r430
try to overclock ur card - it shouldnt go above 450 mhz core
flash x800xl bios - for my r430 fireblade it works perfectly

yo have a r430 but atitools what show? r430 or r480?

[tyellbee]

yo have a r430 but atitools what show? r430 or r480?
he is right... Atitool only shows what is in the bios.. you have to overclock it to find out if you really have a r480 core...

[amiiam]

Aititool showed r480.

[thomasg2001]

i feel pretty pissed. i got my ati sapphire x800 gto2 today!

first of all, there was a message in the case, that i should connect the card to the power supply before using it ... and there is an extra connector cable added too for doing so. BUT there is no connector on the card ... :wtf: ... i feel pretty fooled by that.

the card is green and the cooler is like every other gto2 cooler from sapphire (i think).

then i used the atitool and it says, that i have an r430, the fuses "lines" (information) are like they should be with the F's at the right position, so i should be able to get it to 16 pipes ... i can post a screenshot later ... btw. which bios should i use now?

BUT ... i didn't get, what i thought that i will get ... okay, the card was "just" 170eur incl. delievery but i think someone should warn, that it could be that the new gto2 from sapphire are not the same than days before ...

greetings from germany ...

[ShadowFlare]

i feel pretty pissed. i got my ati sapphire x800 gto2 today!

first of all, there was a message in the case, that i should connect the card to the power supply before using it ... and there is an extra connector cable added too for doing so. BUT there is no connector on the card ... :wtf: ... i feel pretty fooled by that.

the card is green and the cooler is like every other gto2 cooler from sapphire (i think).

then i used the atitool and it says, that i have an r430, the fuses "lines" (information) are like they should be with the F's at the right position, so i should be able to get it to 16 pipes ... i can post a screenshot later ... btw. which bios should i use now?

BUT ... i didn't get, what i thought that i will get ... okay, the card was "just" 170eur incl. delievery but i think someone should warn, that it could be that the new gto2 from sapphire are not the same than days before ...

greetings from germany ...
So there's a green one, too? Hmm, you could maybe try overclocking it a little with ATITool. If it doesn't get anywhere near 500 on the core, then it is indeed R430. If you are planning on returning it, you might not want to try that, though.

[thomasg2001]

returning? i don't know if i could/should, because there is a policy, that they will give me less money back, because it is used (u can see the scratches of the copper pins of the pci slot) ... otherwise, the card is not like it should be ... it is not logical to put the powercable with it and not beeing able to use it ...

atitool: checked ... right now i am at 415mhz core and 530mhz memory ... bad, isn't it :wtf: i get artefacts with 420/530 ... damn ...

can somebody check the bios? i will up it as .txt (but it really is bin ... ) ...

[ShadowFlare]

returning? i don't know if i could/should, because there is a policy, that they will give me less money back, because it is used (u can see the scratches of the copper pins of the pci slot) ... otherwise, the card is not like it should be ... it is not logical to put the powercable with it and not beeing able to use it ...

atitool: checked ... right now i am at 415mhz core and 530mhz memory ... bad, isn't it :wtf: i get artefacts with 420/530 ... damn ...
OK, it definately has R430 then. Don't flash that card to the regular X800 GTO2 bios. Instead you could go here to either mod the bios yourself or have someone else do it for you: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8060

[noneed4me2]

Sapphire has been shipping GTO2s with r430 cores and all come with 16 pipes; the only way to distinguish between the r430 ones and r480s is the VIVO and power connector and the color of the pcb. I would return it if at all possible as you will be much happier with the r480 based version.

[thomasg2001]

i think that this policy is a little bit crappy of sapphire ... one should know, what you get for your money. and if they decide to make a "limited" gto2 edition so these cards should all be the same ... and not limited within the limited editons?!?!

i think it WAS limited and now they just keep one selling the old junk to people like me ...

not okay ...

[AlanJB]

My new system came with a Sapphire X800GTO (256MB DDR3). ATITool and RaBIT both identify the core as an R480 (device ID 5D4F) but core/memory overclocking with ATITool couldn't get beyond 407/525 without artifacts at a max GPU temp of 71.5C. Looks like the core is really an R423, correct? On the bright side, CONFIG_DIE_FUSES=0xFFFFFFFF and CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES=0xFFFFFF9F so unlocking to 16 pipelines should be possible. Finally, is there a recommended BIOS upgrade to squeeze any extra out of this card?

Thanks in advance.

[mmx]

My new system came with a Sapphire X800GTO (256MB DDR3). ATITool and RaBIT both identify the core as an R480 (device ID 5D4F) but core/memory overclocking with ATITool couldn't get beyond 407/525 without artifacts at a max GPU temp of 71.5C. Looks like the core is really an R423, correct? On the bright side, CONFIG_DIE_FUSES=0xFFFFFFFF and CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES=0xFFFFFF9F so unlocking to 16 pipelines should be possible. Finally, is there a recommended BIOS upgrade to squeeze any extra out of this card?

Thanks in advance.
Only 407/525 and artifacts, whit 71.5C?? there could be a problem.... Try flushing a 16p bios and see how its working.

[AlanJB]

Only 407/525 and artifacts, whit 71.5C?? there could be a problem....

The best it managed was:
2006-03-05 01:37:45 Clocks set to: 415.38 / 488.08
2006-03-05 01:37:49 Artifacts detected after 04:06.87. 6 pixels don't match.

I told ATITool to stop scanning after 1hr without artifacts, figuring that would be a good enough test for stabilty.

Try flushing a 16p bios and see how its working.

Which would you recommend? I had a quick look at the various X800 offerings and quickly became lost. :confused:

Thanks,
Alan

[mmx]

What kind of memory you have 1.6ns or 2.0ns??

[peta01]

My new system came with a Sapphire X800GTO (256MB DDR3). ATITool and RaBIT both identify the core as an R480 (device ID 5D4F) but core/memory overclocking with ATITool couldn't get beyond 407/525 without artifacts at a max GPU temp of 71.5C. Looks like the core is really an R423, correct? On the bright side, CONFIG_DIE_FUSES=0xFFFFFFFF and