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dolf
05-29-2006, 07:33 AM
ok heres mine i hope...dont know if itll anything can be doneAIW x800xl 256 (256bit)

Obviously you are already with 16 pipes and probably with X800XT BIOS. The only thing that can be done is to overclock it to X800XT PE speeds and if it is stable on them eventually to flash X800XT PE BIOS which will bring you dynamic fan-control.

Boneface
05-29-2006, 07:42 AM
Obviously you are already with 16 pipes and probably with X800XT BIOS. The only thing that can be done is to overclock it to X800XT PE speeds and if it is stable on them eventually to flash X800XT PE BIOS which will bring you dynamic fan-control.



no its i havent flashed it to xt dont really know how to...lol...and is that the dynamic fan control in ati tool cause i already have that

Moleman
05-29-2006, 11:32 PM
Hey everyone. I recently got a Retail Sapphire x800GTO 256MB AGP.

Here's the card info:
http://static.flickr.com/73/155905573_010f45e1ac_o.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/49/155905583_1e4505f473_o.jpg


Based on some other posts I've looked at, mine should be moddable to 16 pipes, but I'm posting the data just in case. Also, this thread's quite big with a lot of info, so if I'm able to mod mine, could you provide the instructions/links to what flashing programs and such I should use? Thanks in advance for your help.

DOM
05-30-2006, 03:20 AM
Hello every one !

im like very new at this i just found out that i could even oc my card "ATI_X800XL_PCI-E" so plz tell me what i can do to make it the best it could be. cuz its default (400/490) i oc it to (435.25/544.50) is that good ?? its my first card so i really need some help!! and does it matter what ati tool you use the .24 or the .25 beta 14 ?? and would i be able to flash it well hope i to hear someting soon.:D :respect:

dolf
05-30-2006, 07:15 AM
Hey everyone. I recently got a Retail Sapphire x800GTO 256MB AGP.

Here's the card info:
http://static.flickr.com/73/155905573_010f45e1ac_o.jpghttp://static.flickr.com/49/155905583_1e4505f473_o.jpg


Based on some other posts I've looked at, mine should be moddable to 16 pipes, but I'm posting the data just in case. Also, this thread's quite big with a lot of info, so if I'm able to mod mine, could you provide the instructions/links to what flashing programs and such I should use? Thanks in advance for your help.

Go to post N152 from that thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=10955&page=16 ;)

Moleman
05-30-2006, 02:53 PM
Awesome, thanks a lot! Now running smoothly on 16 pipes :D

My 3DMark05 score went from 4325 to 4741, no overclocking yet. Also gave games like FEAR just enough of a boost to make it nice and smooth at high settings.

Thanks again.

SSovets
05-30-2006, 05:34 PM
Hi guys!
I just got this X800Pro, no VIVO, apparently BBA.
This is the screenshot:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060530/ATT_X800Pro_SS.jpg
What do you say, is there any chance to unlock the last 4 pipes? Soft or hard, am willing to try both...
Bios dump (with ATT) attached.

LE: forgot to say it's AGP (maybe it matters)

xuanker
05-30-2006, 09:55 PM
any chance for me ??

MSI RX800TD128
R430 390/350

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5166/dibujo9rx.jpg

matieches
05-31-2006, 03:22 AM
Hi Friends!!! i have x800gto 128Mb 16 Pipes. What can i do for win more performance?? The card is not oc more than default clocks!!

Yik
05-31-2006, 03:39 AM
Sorry, don't think so zuanker

dolf
05-31-2006, 08:36 AM
Hi guys!
I just got this X800Pro, no VIVO, apparently BBA.
This is the screenshot:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060530/ATT_X800Pro_SS.jpg
What do you say, is there any chance to unlock the last 4 pipes? Soft or hard, am willing to try both...
Bios dump (with ATT) attached.

The only chance for you (even insignificant) is to conduct hardmod (to connect the left bridge) and to pray. On the BIOS level you are already with 16 pipes. After connecting of the bridge take the fuses again and post them.

swoop
05-31-2006, 04:18 PM
It is the first X850PRO PCI-E which can be modded to 16 pipes :D . :toast: . If you need help let me know. You can directly flash with XT or XT PE BIOS or modded PRO BIOS. Just don't forget to use modified flashrom or atiflash with -newbios option within the command line.

Woooohoooo! Unlocked to 16 pipes with XT PE bois with about 30% increase in performance. First X850PRO PCI-E to be modded with 16 pipes I feel special. Thanks for your help dolf :toast:

xuanker
05-31-2006, 11:04 PM
Sorry, don't think so zuanker
:( thanks

dahwang
06-02-2006, 10:46 PM
Sapphire x800GTO here are my fuses:

http://www.rpi.edu/~hwangd/fuses.jpg

dolf
06-02-2006, 11:03 PM
Your card will have 16 pipes :D . I consider that you have to see that: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=10955 and especially post N152. Just download what is hosted there, read carefully the pdf instruction and use the utility.

Good luck

dahwang
06-02-2006, 11:09 PM
Your card will have 16 pipes :D . I consider that you have to see that: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=10955 and especially post N152. Just download what is hosted there, read carefully the pdf instruction and use the utility.

Good luck

thanks dolf, you rock.

SSovets
06-03-2006, 09:42 PM
The only chance for you (even insignificant) is to conduct hardmod (to connect the left bridge) and to pray. On the BIOS level you are already with 16 pipes. After connecting of the bridge take the fuses again and post them.
Thanks for the info, Dolf!
After a long week finally the week-end has come and I found some time to mess with the card :) I tried a pencil trick today, but it apparently didn't work, as nothing changed in AtiTool (same 12 pipes, die_fuses and other data, I suppose something would have changed if the contact was made) :(. I will look for something else, as I'm not crazy enough to try soldering :D, and will keep you informed (I hope I can find something else here...)

dolf
06-03-2006, 11:37 PM
Thanks for the info, Dolf!
After a long week finally the week-end has come and I found some time to mess with the card :) I tried a pencil trick today, but it apparently didn't work, as nothing changed in AtiTool (same 12 pipes, die_fuses and other data, I suppose something would have changed if the contact was made) :(. I will look for something else, as I'm not crazy enough to try soldering :D, and will keep you informed (I hope I can find something else here...)

Look the successfull hard mod will be indicated at minimum with change in last digit of SUBSTRATE fuses to F. It is not enough for 16 pipes but means good contact over the left bridge. First of all you have to clean the contact dots with something sharp (they are protected with lacquer). When connecting DON'T fill the laser cut trace with conductive compaund!!!

SSovets
06-04-2006, 01:26 AM
Look the successfull hard mod will be indicated at minimum with change in last digit of SUBSTRATE fuses to F. It is not enough for 16 pipes but means good contact over the left bridge. First of all you have to clean the contact dots with something sharp (they are protected with lacquer). When connecting DON'T fill the laser cut trace with conductive compaund!!!
I did the cleaning, I think this part is ok, the problem is probably in the pencil, will try to find some conductive paint or similar. Do you mean I should go around the laser cut trace? Or through it, but only a thin line?

dolf
06-04-2006, 10:31 AM
Yes around the laser cut trace. If you are lucky the DIE fuses also should be changed. If they remain unchanged it mean that no more pipes unfortunately.

blaadtje
06-04-2006, 08:28 PM
Can someone please help me unlocken my vid card

can't seem to get it to work :banghead:

Sapphire X800 GTO PCI-e fireblade 256 MB

TIA

Blaadtje

dolf
06-04-2006, 10:00 PM
Here you are modded to 16 pipes BIOS. Use flashrom16 (modified flashrom) with: flashrom -f -p 0 bios16.bin or atiflash with: atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin both in DOS mode.

Success

blaadtje
06-04-2006, 10:09 PM
thx mate :rockout: :respect:

will try this one.. Keep ya'll informed

WELL

:respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:

munz778
06-05-2006, 01:11 AM
Volt modded Sapphire X800 Pro (12 Pipe AGP, Blue PCB, Non-VIVO, 600.75/546.75 core/mem using Samsung GC20 DDR3)

I tried the 12 pipe to 16 pipe hardmod however it was not sucessful...i'm not sure if i did it correctly, there was a lasercut which i did put conductive paint on top of in order to link the two traces. I did NOT flash the bios (still using the one that came with the card out of the box)

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 4A49
Chip Type R420
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 475.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 450.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFF3DFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF1E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0xAD46

Text on the GPU is as follows:
Radeon X800
215RAACGA11F
GB7280.3
0422AA
TAIWAN

Text on the memory is as follows:
SAMSUNG K4J55323QF-GC20
KOREA

any help would be much appreciated.

cheers

dolf
06-06-2006, 09:15 AM
The fuses show that no more pipes are possible. The successfull connecting of the left bridge will result in change of the last digit of CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF1E to 0xFFFFFF1F. The chance to obtain 16 pipes is almost 0 but connecting the bridge can result in change also in CONFIG_DIE_FUSES (you should be very lucky). In that case your card could have 16 pipes on hardware level, because on BIOS level you are already with 16 pipes :) .

munz778
06-06-2006, 02:39 PM
thanks very much for the response.

FW1374
06-07-2006, 09:07 AM
My card's data is same with munz's card.But how can i connect the left bridge?İ don't know much about
hardmodding.Please help me(with pictures if possible) or an adress which i can learn somethin about :respect: :respect: :respect:

dolf
06-07-2006, 09:18 AM
My card's data is same with munz's card.But how can i connect the left bridge?İ don't know much about
hardmodding.Please help me(with pictures if possible) or an adress which i can learn somethin about :respect: :respect: :respect:

I think that link could help you to understand: http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/rx800-3.html ;) But with such fuses the chance for 16 pipes is almost 0 and you have to know that.

theskyfadesaway
06-08-2006, 03:31 AM
Hi, I've been reading around on various forums and I've been wondering if my card is unlockable from its 8 pipes to 12 or so.

It's an AGP Sapphire Radeon X800GT.

I just have it overclocked right now, but I would like to open my pipes.

Here's my ATI Tool screenshot:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060607/untitled3ao.jpg

Thanks for any help :)


Also, when I dump my BIOS, RaBit tells me that my card is an SE, if that helps.

dolf
06-08-2006, 07:27 AM
No more pipes even 12 sorry :mad: .

theskyfadesaway
06-08-2006, 03:46 PM
Ah, okay.

I guess I should just spend time using it than tweaking it, huh?




Thanks for your help, dolf, you've been the only person so far to give me a direct answer.

DarkAlester
06-09-2006, 04:24 PM
Hi, just got this card yesterday and i believe i am capable of opening it to 16 pipelines just need someone to mod the bios for me so i can flash it. I uplaoading an image of my atitool results for refrence and ill repost with my bios.

Thx in advance for the help, really appreciate it.

dolf
06-09-2006, 04:49 PM
Hi, just got this card yesterday and i believe i am capable of opening it to 16 pipelines just need someone to mod the bios for me so i can flash it. I uplaoading an image of my atitool results for refrence and ill repost with my bios.

Thx in advance for the help, really appreciate it.

Go to post N152 from that thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=10955&page=16 and download what is hosted there. Follow the instructions.

DarkAlester
06-09-2006, 07:27 PM
Thx For the help Dolf greatly appreciate it, UR th man :respect:

phaze
06-10-2006, 11:47 AM
Hi there,

Sorry if im wrong, but you have just given Darkalester a link to a bios for the agp version of the card, i have compared my atitool info to darkalesters and they are identical, which im guessing means that he also has a pci-e card, same as me..

i am about to flash the bios for my gto2 but am just making sure that this is correct. if the agp bios can be used for the pci-e card too..

once again i apologize if im incorrect..

edit:

my atitool info just in case:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2953/info8xx.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=info8xx.jpg)

thanks and regards,
phaze

Opson
06-10-2006, 11:52 AM
I've got Sapphire Plain X800 256 MB with samsung 2.0 ns memory. Card looks like this, but the PCB is red

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1390/x80018xo.jpg

I Flashed to Sapphire, Powercolor X800XL, no effect. I used flashrom for unlocking X800 GTO2 - still no effect. Card runs as XL, but only 12 pipes are active. Any solutions? The core is of course R430 marked as X800PRO, date 0442

Screenshot from ATITool

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8608/atitool2xj.jpg

mmx
06-10-2006, 11:56 AM
I've got Sapphire Plain X800 256 MB with samsung 2.0 ns memory. Card looks like this, but the PCB is red

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1390/x80018xo.jpg

I Flashed to Sapphire, Powercolor X800XL, no effect. I used flashrom for unlocking X800 GTO2 - still no effect. Card runs as XL, but only 12 pipes are active. Any solutions? The core is of course R430 marked as X800PRO, date 0442

Screenshot from ATITool

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8608/atitool2xj.jpg
No more pipes for you, but for "phaze" dump bios and post it to mod it to 16 pipes, i dont think a agp bios is compatible with the pcie bios.

Opson
06-10-2006, 12:08 PM
Here is pack

stary.rom - my original bios

and

Sapphire X800XL bios - that i use now

2736

phaze
06-10-2006, 12:10 PM
Sorry,

Here is the bios

Opson
06-10-2006, 12:17 PM
is's PCIE or AGP bios?

phaze
06-10-2006, 12:21 PM
The bios that i uploaded is a pci-e one :) , i am just waiting for a reply from mmx.

mmx
06-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Sorry,

Here is the bios
here is your 16 pipes mod bios
use atiflash -p 0(zero) -newbios bios16.bin

phaze
06-10-2006, 12:26 PM
mmx, you are officially a hero in my books, thank you very much for this, i greatly appreciate it, i will let you know what happens with the flash.

Thanks again :)

mmx
06-10-2006, 12:26 PM
Here is pack

stary.rom - my original bios

and

Sapphire X800XL bios - that i use now

2736
The bios from sapphire has the 16 pipes open but your core has hardware lock on thoes pipes so no bios is going to mod it to 16 pipes. Sorry.

Opson
06-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Still 12 pipes :( So i must Vmod it strong. How high R430 works with Voltage at about 1,4V? Is 500 MHz realised?

mmx
06-10-2006, 12:40 PM
Still 12 pipes :( So i must Vmod it strong. How high R430 works with Voltage at about 1,4V? Is 500 MHz realised?
I dont think so, r430 is a bad overclocker..... i have seen r430 vith vmod up to 465Mhz..., my without vmod works at 440 with ati silencer on it...and from 440 to 465 isnt that mutch performance boost that worth vmodding.....only my opinion

Opson
06-10-2006, 01:17 PM
I've got Zalman VF700Cu

phaze
06-10-2006, 01:33 PM
hey mmx, i have attempted the flash, and i have had an error which said:

flash already programmed

can you explain this to me, sorry if im being annoying, just that im not very confident with flashing gfx cards.

thanks,
phaze

mmx
06-10-2006, 01:34 PM
hey mmx, i have attempted the flash, and i have had an error which said:

flash already programmed

can you explain this to me, sorry if im being annoying, just that im not very confident with flashing gfx cards.

thanks,
phaze
did you used atiflash ??

phaze
06-10-2006, 01:35 PM
yes, atiflash 3.09

mmx
06-10-2006, 01:38 PM
yes, atiflash 3.09
try this command atiflash -p 0(zero) -newbios -f bios16.bin

phaze
06-10-2006, 01:39 PM
ok will do, thanks

phaze
06-10-2006, 01:48 PM
ok atitool is now reporting 16 pipes, so it must be sweet now, thanks for helping me mmx! :)

tigger
06-10-2006, 05:51 PM
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/p27195untitledo122.jpg
its a powercolor x800gto 265mb ddr3

mmx
06-10-2006, 07:01 PM
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/p27195untitledo122.jpg
its a powercolor x800gto 265mb ddr3
No more pipes for you. Sorry!!

phaze
06-16-2006, 11:03 AM
heya, here is one that i can hopefully unlock too,

thanks

dolf
06-16-2006, 11:16 AM
heya, here is one that i can hopefully unlock too,

thanks

That exactly you can't unlock :mad:, sorry.

blade1212
06-16-2006, 07:38 PM
Hi guys, can you please put me out my misery on the upgrade possibilities of my Sapphire X800 GT :)

Thanks

dolf
06-16-2006, 11:47 PM
Hi guys, can you please put me out my misery on the upgrade possibilities of my Sapphire X800 GT :)

Thanks

No more pipes for you also (just 8). Sorry:mad: .

Johev
06-17-2006, 06:03 AM
Hi people, I’ve just read about 70 pages of this thread and managed to register just to be able to be part of this community.

I too have a Sapphire X800GT card, but it only has 8piplines active and would like to see if I can get at least 12 :laugh:

I'm not any expert but after reading some posts I'm sure that if it is doable you guys would know it, and maybe even help me through it.:respect:

I'm using it with a Zalman VF700-Cu and ram heat sinks. Can't tell you if it has laser cut or not, because it already came with the new cooler. :D

Thanks again and hope to hear from you all soon.

dolf
06-17-2006, 09:35 AM
Unfortunately no more pipes :mad: . Sooooorry. Your card has R420 core which is with 2 laser cuts. You can try to connect the right bridge but most probably the result will be again 8 pipes.

Johev
06-17-2006, 11:02 AM
Unfortunately no more pipes :mad: . Sooooorry. Your card has R420 core which is with 2 laser cuts. You can try to connect the right bridge but most probably the result will be again 8 pipes.

No problem, I can't always win...hehe.
And I got a good price for it anyway :laugh:.

By the way, when I use TRIX or the ATItool to see the stable overclock it just doesn't seem to stop. ATItool took like 30 min or more testing and looking fro errors (didn’t find any). Normally after a slight increase of the stock speed you can see some problems, but all that time was making me nervous, so I pressed "Abort". One of the reasons was that I couldn’t see the speeds it was doing and I didn't want to burn it. What do you recommend?

Thanks again for your reply.:D

PS: At least this thread brought me to this nice forum.

ali2487
06-17-2006, 10:48 PM
These are my fuses

I know that i have the r423 core but i am mystified by the fact that i can oc from 475/450 stock clocks to 560/650 staedy clocks

I am also geting a 3D Marks of 1058 on 3D mark06

so please advise me!

bchivers
06-18-2006, 12:11 AM
I hve been having a hard time following this thread but from what I have read it's very interesting. I have a powercolor x800gt 265mb ddr3. The info on the chip is
R480, 215RBQAGA11F, GF5039.1, 0445AA

This is from the ATITOOL, config_die_fuses 0xFFFF9...
CONFIG_SUBSTATE_FU 0xFFFF....
How do I know if I have any pipes to open?
Which bios is the best for this card?
TIA.:)

mmx
06-18-2006, 10:05 AM
I hve been having a hard time following this thread but from what I have read it's very interesting. I have a powercolor x800gt 265mb ddr3. The info on the chip is
R480, 215RBQAGA11F, GF5039.1, 0445AA

This is from the ATITOOL, config_die_fuses 0xFFFF9...
CONFIG_SUBSTATE_FU 0xFFFF....
How do I know if I have any pipes to open?
Which bios is the best for this card?
TIA.:)
Use atitool to dump your bios, then post it here and we will mod it to 16 pipes, and the instructions how to flash it.

bchivers
06-18-2006, 10:25 PM
Use atitool to dump your bios, then post it here and we will mod it to 16 pipes, and the instructions how to flash it.
How do I do this, where do I find the setting to dump? I have a dump from ATI Tray Tool but am unable to upload it. It says it is an invalid file. Is this the line you are looking for?

0000000070 0080 1867 03E4 8C14 5161 6008 0000 0000

mmx
06-19-2006, 07:41 AM
How do I do this, where do I find the setting to dump? I have a dump from ATI Tray Tool but am unable to upload it. It says it is an invalid file. Is this the line you are looking for?

0000000070 0080 1867 03E4 8C14 5161 6008 0000 0000
In Atitool press <settings> then <Miscellaneous> then <Dump BIos>

Q`res
06-19-2006, 09:16 AM
I have a 256MB Radeon X800GTO AGP card. ATITool lists it as an R420, I know, look at the core, but in this case I suspect I'd be wasting my time. Also, should note that in Windows Vista it is misidentified as an X800 Pro.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c132/qres/x800.jpg

bchivers
06-19-2006, 07:43 PM
I am able to get the dump and upload it but I can't seem to get the attacthment into the thead.
Edit. There it is.

mmx
06-20-2006, 07:28 AM
I am able to get the dump and upload it but I can't seem to get the attacthment into the thead.
Edit. There it is.
There is something wrong with that bios, use Atitool0.24 for x800 series

Casheti
06-20-2006, 08:23 AM
This is from my stock cooled stock clocked PCI-E X850XT with 16 pipes default.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8227/atitoolsettings0xr.jpg

dolf
06-20-2006, 10:41 AM
Please if it is not VIVO to dump and post here your BIOS :) .

Thanks

tigger
06-20-2006, 12:16 PM
here is my ati tool and bios can anyone have a look and see if it is possible to make it 16p
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/c50868atitoolr33.jpg
it is a powercolor x800gto 256mb hynix 2.0ns mem

Casheti
06-20-2006, 12:38 PM
Hey Tigger, you got a Pentium D 930 to 4050MHz? WOW. What motherboard are you using, and what cooling? I have a Pentium D 920, but my motherboard is all locked, so I can't overclock. Its an ASUS P5LP-LE. Also, can somebody please reply to my ATi Tray Tools thread please, if you know the answer to my question.

dolf
06-20-2006, 12:48 PM
here is my ati tool and bios can anyone have a look and see if it is possible to make it 16p
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/c50868atitoolr33.jpg
it is a powercolor x800gto 256mb hynix 2.0ns mem

Unfortunately NO more pipes for you regardless of BIOS modification.

Casheti, please to give some answer on my question about the BIOS (#1822).

bchivers
06-20-2006, 12:50 PM
mmx I really appreciate your help, thank you.
I reflashed my bios with"POWER COLOR.X800GT_R480_16P.256.SAMSUNG20_0507026.ZIP" is this a good bios for this card?
EDIT: Just ran 3D Mark 2006 and my score dropped from 1518 to 1441 with the POWER COLOR.X800GT_R480_16P.256.SAMSUNG20_0507026 bios.

tigger
06-20-2006, 12:55 PM
casheti-
it is a asus p5wd2 955x board.i have had to up the vcore to 1.31v tho.runs sweet.does not really like this hot weather in the uk at the mo'.36-44c idle,max 53c
i have a arctic cooling freezer 7 pro cooler on it.
i am pretty sure it will do more,i had it to 4.2 by upping the vcore to 1.35,still not much higher vcore.i reckon it'll do 4.5 with more power and water.
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/l26783cpuzc33.jpg

Casheti
06-20-2006, 12:57 PM
Ah, I see. Is it true that the Pentium D is crap? Cos some of my mates beat me, and they have single core comps. :(

Casheti
06-20-2006, 12:59 PM
And also, anybody know why my distant terrain looks like absolute CRAP in Battlefield 2, even though I have full anisotropic filtering options?

I use ATi Tray Tools, please reply to my ATi Tray Tools thread if you have the answer

tigger
06-20-2006, 01:18 PM
i dont think its crap,it certainly beats my last chip(a64 3000+@2.4ghz).i have had less probs with this then the amd,and it was cheaper than the lowest amd x2 3800+,and out performs it at 4gig.at the mo' amd mite be the best,but not for long when core2 comes out.and the jump from 939 ddr to 940 ddr2 has done nothing for amd.
heres a coupla pics-
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/i39930mema33.jpg

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/p28658memw33.jpg

not many can beat 8400mb/s on the sandra mem test,and the cache and mem bandwidth is good,games like lots of mem bandwidth.
with a differant board your 920 should do roughly the same as mine,wots the lvl 2 cache on that?.mine is 2x2mb
incidently,i'am using ati tray tools.

Casheti
06-20-2006, 03:11 PM
OK. New board for me.

tigger
06-20-2006, 04:17 PM
i think you need the asus p5wd2 premium.if its a new revision it may support core 2 duo.if i'd had more money this would'a been the one i got.mine is a 955x chipset,the premium is 975x.i dont know what country you're in,but in the uk this board is about £150.

bchivers
06-20-2006, 04:31 PM
Is there a thread that shows where the pipes are and tells you how to unlock any that may have been cut?

dolf
06-20-2006, 06:25 PM
Is there a thread that shows where the pipes are and tells you how to unlock any that may have been cut?

That is the thread that "tells you how to unlock any that may have been cut?". But you can read and interpretate the fuse values :) .

tenstrum
06-20-2006, 08:39 PM
Got my Sapphaire Radeon X800GTO on Friday.
It has problems. I get red, green, and blue dots all over my display when it boots into Windows. I've tried updating every driver for my motherboard and it didn't help. I even took it to work today and tried it on a PC there and I got the same thing. I also tried the latest Catalyst and even earlier versions, but that didn't help.
I called ATI and they think I have a bad memory module.
Newegg has issued my RMA and I'm going to get it replaced.

On a high note, I went ahead and tried unlocking the pipes just to see what would happen and I was able to get all 16 pipes. I pulled the heatsink and I have the 430 chip. Too bad something is wrong with the card. Hope I can unlock the one they send to replace it...

Casheti
06-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Why would you want that card? And how much did you pay for it? I got my Sapphire Radeon X850XT for £115

tigger
06-20-2006, 10:21 PM
were'd you get the 850 from m8.which board are you going for?.it mite be worth waiting a while till the conroe compatible boards appear.

Casheti
06-20-2006, 11:04 PM
Well, I got the X850XT from ebay. BARGAIN! And nothing wrong with it so far. Idle temps never below 39*C with stock cooler @ 100% though. But I'm buying a new Arctic Cooling fan for it anyway. And, about the new motherboard, I'll have to wait a while for some money. :( I guess maybe I might be able to get one at christmas. I'm planning to buy another GB of ram as well, before the new board, to see If i can improve my FPS in games enough to be happy with. AND PLEASE, SOMEBODY REPLY TO MY ATi Tray Tools Settings THREAD!! PLEASE!!

bchivers
06-21-2006, 12:15 AM
That is the thread that "tells you how to unlock any that may have been cut?". But you can read and interpretate the fuse values :) .Can you tell me if I have any?

dolf
06-21-2006, 07:18 AM
Can you tell me if I have any?

The fuses are not full but for sure you are on the max. number of pipes.

ali2487
06-21-2006, 10:35 AM
PLEASE WOULD SOMEBODY REPLY TO MY QUESTION GUYS PLEASE?

These are my fuses

I know that i have the r423 core but i am mystified by the fact that i can oc from 475/450 stock clocks to 560/650 staedy clocks

I am also geting a 3D Marks of 1058 on 3D mark06

so please advise me!

Casheti
06-21-2006, 12:39 PM
You Disgust Me Because You Own A Dell

tenstrum
06-21-2006, 02:14 PM
Why would you want that card? And how much did you pay for it? I got my Sapphire Radeon X850XT for £115

Because I have an AGP mobo and don't want to build a whole new system just yet. I paid $100 US for the card.

dolf
06-21-2006, 04:14 PM
PLEASE WOULD SOMEBODY REPLY TO MY QUESTION GUYS PLEASE?

These are my fuses

I know that i have the r423 core but i am mystified by the fact that i can oc from 475/450 stock clocks to 560/650 staedy clocks

I am also geting a 3D Marks of 1058 on 3D mark06

so please advise me!

12 pipes is the max. for you. Overclock it to the max. and enjoy it ;) .

ali2487
06-21-2006, 04:51 PM
hey DOLF

would you mind telling me how to unlock to 12 pipes? i am currently on 8!

ali2487
06-21-2006, 04:52 PM
You Disgust Me Because You Own A Dell
__________________
ATi FOOKING RULE!!

whys that?? are dell shit for games or what? enlighten me friend!

bchivers
06-21-2006, 05:31 PM
The fuses are not full but for sure you are on the max. number of pipes.
dolf Thanks for your reply. I don't understand what you mean by the fuses are not full. What do I do next? Where do I look for the pipes on the card?

dolf
06-21-2006, 06:11 PM
dolf Thanks for your reply. I don't understand what you mean by the fuses are not full. What do I do next? Where do I look for the pipes on the card?

See your fuse picture and compare it with the others and you will understand. Regardless of that (not full lenght) you can't change the number of the pipes.

dolf
06-21-2006, 06:22 PM
hey DOLF

would you mind telling me how to unlock to 12 pipes? i am currently on 8!

You have to connect the right bridge on your R423 using conductive compaund (paint, lacquer, glue). First you have to clear rhe contact dots with something sharp and to remove the isolation (they are covered with lacquer). Don't fill the laser cut with conductive material. Connect making a conductive trace around the laser cut. After successfull connection the last digit of your CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES=0xFFFFF61D will be changed to 0xFFFFF61F. Only then you can have 12 pipes.

Casheti
06-21-2006, 06:39 PM
Is 16 pipes the max for my X850XT?

soypunisher
06-21-2006, 09:44 PM
I'd appreciate if someone could help me about modding this card. Here is the atitool dialog box.
Memories are samsumg 16ns.
http://www.subir-imagenes.com/subir-imagenes-server/6551acbe7c.jpg (http://www.subir-imagenes.com)

dolf
06-21-2006, 10:03 PM
No more pipes for you. Sorry.

Casheti
06-21-2006, 10:15 PM
Well ali2487, im afraid to say, Dell computers ARE shit for games. I'm sorry, they just are.

ali2487
06-22-2006, 01:31 AM
hey dolf

can i do this with the compund which is put in between the core and the heatsink? and as for the link should i just get a pin and etch a groove into the laquer going around the laseer cut and then fill it with compound? is this correct?

dolf
06-22-2006, 07:13 AM
hey dolf

can i do this with the compund which is put in between the core and the heatsink? and as for the link should i just get a pin and etch a groove into the laquer going around the laseer cut and then fill it with compound? is this correct?

You have to buy conductive lacquer or paint. You can't do it with silver thermal grease.

Pfauhr
06-22-2006, 08:42 AM
hi,
is there a way to mod 16 pipes ?

samsung 2.0ns

thx 4 help
2856

2857

ali2487
06-22-2006, 08:45 AM
ok then dolf so once i get the laquer or paint i etch a deep groove into the substance it already has on the card around the laser cut and fill it right?

ali2487
06-22-2006, 02:28 PM
You have to buy conductive lacquer or paint. You can't do it with silver thermal grease.


also dolf

do you know where the thread has gone from shadowflare about this very mod.

i have seen it before but i just didint understand it!

SaDrsII
06-22-2006, 07:17 PM
Hi i have HIS X800GTO VIVO 256MB PCIe, it's external power connector and R480 core, on the back side of the card (right-top corner) on the card are present 8 mosfets,
p\n 102A4748810160714. can it be moded to 16 pipes? in atitool i have
0x554F:R430, Bus:1, Dev:0
0xFFFFBFFF
0xFFFFFF9E

beastt
06-23-2006, 02:56 AM
g'day People my first post :) i have an HIS 800gto 12 pipes,480 core, 1.6ns ram and have tried flashing to x800xt,x850xt and failed both times.. flash worked but on reboot xp still saw it as x800gto and ati tool says i got 4 pipes ? and writing is all in japenese or something lol i can ova clock her from 400 eng to 553 - and mem from 490 to 560 (ill post screeny of test soon)

eres a screenshot of my ram fuses i dont have a screenshot of failed attempt of flashs sorry
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/beastt/untitled.jpg
http://www.hisdigital.com/newimages/products/A474_DualSlotFAN_s_250.jpg

HIS X800GTO 256MB PCIe
Chipset Radeon X800 PCIe Series
ASIC R480
Pixel Pipelines 12
Vertex Engines 6
Manu. Process(Micron) 130/110nm
Transistor 160M
Fill Rate 4800MTexel/s
Memory Size (MB) 256
Memory Type GDDR3
RAMDAC (MHz) 400 Dual
Engine CLK (MHz) 400
Memory CLK (MHz) 980
Memory Interface (bit) 256
Memory Bandwidth 31.4GB/s

also can someone tell me weather an x800gto bios with 16 pipes enabled will work? and point me in the right direction to one if it will plz :) thanks in advance :toast:

edit : or if someone could edit my bios to have 16 pipes ill try that

dolf
06-23-2006, 07:35 AM
g'day People my first post :) i have an HIS 800gto 12 pipes,480 core, 1.6ns ram and have tried flashing to x800xt,x850xt and failed both times.. flash worked but on reboot xp still saw it as x800gto and ati tool says i got 4 pipes ? and writing is all in japenese or something lol i can ova clock her from 400 eng to 553 - and mem from 490 to 560 (ill post screeny of test soon)

eres a screenshot of my ram fuses i dont have a screenshot of failed attempt of flashs sorry
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/beastt/untitled.jpg
http://www.hisdigital.com/newimages/products/A474_DualSlotFAN_s_250.jpg

HIS X800GTO 256MB PCIe
Chipset Radeon X800 PCIe Series
ASIC R480
Pixel Pipelines 12
Vertex Engines 6
Manu. Process(Micron) 130/110nm
Transistor 160M
Fill Rate 4800MTexel/s
Memory Size (MB) 256
Memory Type GDDR3
RAMDAC (MHz) 400 Dual
Engine CLK (MHz) 400
Memory CLK (MHz) 980
Memory Interface (bit) 256
Memory Bandwidth 31.4GB/s

also can someone tell me weather an x800gto bios with 16 pipes enabled will work? and point me in the right direction to one if it will plz :) thanks in advance :toast:

Unfortunately NO more pipes for :mad: .

Casheti
06-23-2006, 08:39 AM
Hahah, Im Already On 16 Pipes!! Ahahaha!!

madtaz
06-23-2006, 08:15 PM
Hi, Today I got the new graphic card.
This one-> http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=318812
And i was wondering if I could Flash this card.

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/5115/bilde19qa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/1334/bilde21pt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If you want to tell me (if I can) step by step how i flash it. It would be great!

Sry my English. :o

stevorob
06-23-2006, 08:44 PM
Hi, Today I got the new graphic card.
This one-> http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=318812
And i was wondering if I could Flash this card.

(Pictures)

If you want to tell me (if I can) step by step how i flash it. It would be great!

Sry my English. :o

Are those actual pictures of your ATI tool? If so, it already looks to be unlocked to 16 pipes....

Casheti
06-23-2006, 08:49 PM
You may have 16 pipelines, but you have the R430 core, so therefore you suck.

Casheti
06-23-2006, 08:50 PM
How much did you pay in English pounds for it?

I got my graphics card like a few weeks ago for £115

stevorob
06-23-2006, 08:51 PM
You may have 16 pipelines, but you have the R430 core, so therefore you suck.

Why spam this nonsense? Lots of people have the R430 and have great luck with their cards. Sure they don't overclock well, but for the price, they are awesome.

Please don't post unhelpful information.

Casheti
06-23-2006, 08:53 PM
Well, I dont see your post helping anyone

stevorob
06-23-2006, 08:54 PM
I was asking if those were his pics... If they are, there is no need to flash because his pipes are already unlocked...

Casheti
06-23-2006, 08:55 PM
Well who do you think the pics belong to, the queen?

Look, madtaz, you could have saved a little bit longer and got a better card. Now is not the time to be buying GTO's.

Nowadays, with AGP, you'd play games real nice on an X800XT PE. :)

stevorob
06-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Please just stop spamming.

madtaz
Your pipes are unlocked from the looks of the pics you posted, so there is no need to flash. R430 cores don't overclock well, but the extra pipes can make up for it. Have fun with it, and watch your temps. The extra pipes make the core run hotter than it should. I would advise replacing the stock cooler for either a zalman or an ati silencer to help keep your temps low.

dolf
06-23-2006, 09:12 PM
Madtaz, answering to your question I will repeat the above post. You don't need to flash that card because it is on the max. of the pipes. Just use it as it is or buy better cooling (ATISilencer) I will recommend that because the memory is cooled too.

ali2487
06-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Madtaz, answering to your question I will repeat the above post. You don't need to flash that card because it is on the max. of the pipes. Just use it as it is or buy better cooling (ATISilencer) I will recommend that because the memory is cooled too.

hey guys so does the arctic cooler cool the ram?

the_cat-dog
06-24-2006, 01:55 AM
4 pipes :( cant seem to unlock - any ideas?

beastt
06-24-2006, 04:20 AM
Unfortunately NO more pipes for :mad: .

well could someone edit my bios file to have 16 and ill try that / ? i want 16 :) if not its all good i wouldnt know were to start and how to edit a bios file and wat to look 4 ...

mmx
06-24-2006, 09:45 AM
well could someone edit my bios file to have 16 and ill try that / ? i want 16 :) if not its all good i wouldnt know were to start and how to edit a bios file and wat to look 4 ...
As dolf said, no more pipes for you....Sorry but no bios in the world wont make it 16 pipes...

dolf
06-24-2006, 10:29 AM
4 pipes :( cant seem to unlock - any ideas?

It seems that ATI uses all the cores even with 4 pipes. Your fuses show that no space left and you will remain with 4 pipes. But for sure those 4 pipes can work faster. It shouldn't be problem 500-540MHz for the core.

Casheti
06-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Even an X1300 has 4 pipes

the_cat-dog
06-24-2006, 11:25 AM
It seems that ATI uses all the cores even with 4 pipes. Your fuses show that no space left and you will remain with 4 pipes. But for sure those 4 pipes can work faster. It shouldn't be problem 500-540MHz for the core.

Then ATI should be beaten down with a big stick for creating a 4pipe core on an x800 series. I live in shame for buying it as well. Never mind eh. I'm prob gonna get an x1800GTO and unlock it to the x1800XL. good idea?

Casheti
06-24-2006, 11:26 AM
No, get XL and unlock to an XT

the_cat-dog
06-24-2006, 11:32 AM
Take into account money here!

x1800GTO = £125 (unlock to x1800XL)
x1800XL = £175 (unlock to x1800XT)
x1800XT = £190

-seems better value to get the GTO and unlock the extra pipes.

I dont have much money left and I bought my x800ve for £110 ish and could probably sell it for around £90.

I'm not too fussed about massive frame rates. Just want to comfortably run Oblivion (ie not 8-20fps I often get with this x800ve :o )

the_cat-dog
06-24-2006, 11:45 AM
It seems that ATI uses all the cores even with 4 pipes. Your fuses show that no space left and you will remain with 4 pipes. But for sure those 4 pipes can work faster. It shouldn't be problem 500-540MHz for the core.

Also yes its very overclockable. 425:400 stock, 590:575 stable at the mo with no problems under stock cooling. But the 4 pipes means that my 3dmark scores are still shit, even though the overlcoking managed about 37% increase in speed!!

ps thanks for help dolf

Casheti
06-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Everybody please reply to my Catalyst Control Centre Optimizastion Post please. I want to know the highest quality setting for every setting there is.

dolf
06-24-2006, 12:16 PM
Also yes its very overclockable. 425:400 stock, 590:575 stable at the mo with no problems under stock cooling. But the 4 pipes means that my 3dmark scores are still shit, even though the overlcoking managed about 37% increase in speed!!

ps thanks for help dolf

That card is not designed for high bench results or gaming but for TV watching and video. One thing is sure that R420 is created to work at 520MHz without problem. Your memory probably 2.0ns should work at 500MHz (max. overclock 540-580MHz).

rpg711
06-25-2006, 09:42 PM
hi, i have a his x800gto iceq2 vivo r480... i broke my mobo so im waiting for a new 1 but in the mean time... can u all explain to me how the process will go?can r480 cores go to the clocks of a x850xtpe?
oh yeah also i have 1.6 ns samsung
also... do you think my clocks will be higher if i have ac5 on my stuff?

ali2487
06-25-2006, 09:44 PM
hi, i have a his x800gto iceq2 vivo r480... i broke my mobo so im waiting for a new 1 but in the mean time... can u all explain to me how the process will go?can r480 cores go to the clocks of a x850xtpe?
oh yeah also i have 1.6 ns samsung

YES they can! i have read sooooooo many forums bout this! and they can mate!

i think i also remember reading that it can be flashed to 1 buh dnt flash it unless u read a forum n see it for yourself!

rpg711
06-25-2006, 09:45 PM
yay :respect: HIS

Casheti
06-25-2006, 09:45 PM
I have X850XT overclocked to PE NO PROBLEM!!

Casheti
06-25-2006, 09:50 PM
A HIS is just an Arctic Cooling Silencer 5 with HIS written on it

ali2487
06-25-2006, 09:51 PM
A HIS is just an Arctic Cooling Silencer 5 with HIS written on it
lol EXACTLY! i have the arctic cooler 5 rev.2! :respect:

Casheti
06-25-2006, 09:53 PM
Yeah. That owns. Can't wait to get one. But GOD DAMN, the X850XT's get so damn hot. I peaked in BF2 at 78*C with stock fan at 100%, and I idle around the 40*C mark

ali2487
06-25-2006, 09:57 PM
Yeah. That owns. Can't wait to get one. But GOD DAMN, the X850XT's get so damn hot. I peaked in BF2 at 78*C with stock fan at 100%, and I idle around the 40*C mark

im idling 34-35 mate! i have to say the stock fan is CRAP! do ur card a fovour and buy it a cooler! it will run MUCH happier maybe even higher clocks! wen i had a stock cooler on my x800gt i was clocking 520/570 after i gt a cooler i gt stable clocks of 560/630 (core/mem) never going over ~50oC !

Casheti
06-25-2006, 09:59 PM
Nice, also, the Arctic Cooling Silencer 5 cools memory independantly too :) Thats a nice feature. I cant wait to get one. THEY ARE SOOOO COOL (GEDDIT, COOL, HEHE)

Casheti
06-25-2006, 10:04 PM
Oh, and when you say never over 50*C, do you mean while playing games?

ali2487
06-25-2006, 10:05 PM
Oh, and when you say never over 50*C, do you mean while playing games?

ye sory mate

50 wile playin games plus wen i run the furry dice thing on ATI tool which is supposed to heat it WAY more than any other game soo...........id say pretty gud!

Casheti
06-25-2006, 10:07 PM
WOW, thats some real good temps dude.

ali2487
06-25-2006, 10:09 PM
WOW, thats some real good temps dude.

i know i was surprised myself! seeing as i had to customise the cooler a bit to fit into my comp the pentium heatsink was in the way so i had to get it modified!

Casheti
06-25-2006, 10:11 PM
Lol, what cooler have you got on the CPU?

ali2487
06-25-2006, 10:14 PM
Lol, what cooler have you got on the CPU?

SHITTY CRAPPY dell cooler mate! looking to upgrade it soon to an artic freezer because i hear that the cooler the pentium the faster it runs sooo guta giv it a try if it dnt run faster atleast it will run cooler n quieter so no losses!

Casheti
06-25-2006, 10:18 PM
Yeah, I guess, I got a cooler master, which are OK I guess, but I have the worst motherboard known to man, so the BIOS are locked so I cant adjust CPU fan speed, or Overclock the CPU or anything, which sucks a little. Tbh, theres a lot I need to do to my computer to make it an effectively cooled rig, as it sucks ass for heat at the moment. Motherboard temps have reached around 70*C before, and considering my case is so cramped, and the lack of fans I have, and also the lack of space, it pretty much says to me that I need way better cooling, starting with the graphics, as my graphics card is my pride and joy, and I dont want it to melt. My case is so crap that the back of the case got bent a smidge when installing the X850XT. It was so hard to screw it in, I had to get my sister to help me :)

ali2487
06-25-2006, 10:22 PM
Yeah, I guess, I got a cooler master, which are OK I guess, but I have the worst motherboard known to man, so the BIOS are locked so I cant adjust CPU fan speed, or Overclock the CPU or anything, which sucks a little. Tbh, theres a lot I need to do to my computer to make it an effectively cooled rig, as it sucks ass for heat at the moment. Motherboard temps have reached around 70*C before, and considering my case is so cramped, and the lack of fans I have, and also the lack of space, it pretty much says to me that I need way better cooling, starting with the graphics.

thats true mate although i have NEVER checkd mobo temps and i only have the stock cooler on it! so i dnt no! i have tried to oc my mobo aswell but i cant seem to do it! can you guide me throu it amte just to c if i can if ya gt msn add me please its ali2487@msn.com im online nw it wud be a real help mate! plus if can oc my mobo i will make the whole case out of FANS! lol plus i will put an air conditioner next to it!

tigger
06-27-2006, 11:24 AM
are you gonna get a new mobo casheti?.i have an arctic on my machine i run the fan full speed all the time tho',i've tried it on auto speed,but it gets into a loop.fan runs slow so chip gets hot so fan speeds up,when its cooler fan slows so chip gets hot so fan speeds up,gets cooler fan slows etc etc.i have a zalman vf700cu on my pussy of a x800gto.432,560 is the max clocks on this crappy 430 core.it was only £50 on special from ocku tho'.
i'm thinking of a 7600gt next tho' s'only £117 from ocuk for a bfg one,i've read the tests on it and it just about beats a 6800ultra.
can you post some pics of your machine and i will do the same.i have an akasa eclipse 62 case.it is really long(560mm) and wide(240mm).

Casheti
06-27-2006, 04:01 PM
Honestly mate, you are my Pentium D GOD!! I really wanna be able to overclock my pussy 2.8GHz Pentium D 920 to 4.0GHz like you did. I'm so gonna get your mobo, if it doesn't cost too much. My rig is bog standard apart from the mouse and the X850XT, so theres not much to see. I'll post my pics l8r

NSXR
06-27-2006, 04:16 PM
I have an Sapphire Radeon X800GTO PCIe 256MB GDDR3 Lite Retail

It has 12 active piplines and an R480 chip, but:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E

Is there any way to unlock some piplines?

http://img.techpowerup.org/060627/Uten navn.jpg

Casheti
06-27-2006, 04:45 PM
Hey tigger, this is my comp.

Notice how you can't even see the ram because my case is so cramped. LOL!

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2999/comp18ji.jpg

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/893/comp24fy.jpg

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4053/comp30kl.jpg

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6848/comp41rl.jpg

stevorob
06-27-2006, 07:28 PM
NSXR
Your fuses don't match up, so I don't believe the extra pipes can be unlocked. However, you have an R480 core, which is great for overclocking. Stick an ATI Silencer 5 or a Zalman VF900 on it, and you should be set.

Casheti
06-27-2006, 08:40 PM
Hey stevorob, could your system BE any more stock? Get rid of all that Dell crap, and pretend it's a mesh, or a HP or sumthin'.

dolf
06-27-2006, 09:02 PM
Hey guys this thread is not ironware. There should be another thread for cases, mobo's and DELL :D . It should be "X800 fuses data for unlocking "............

NSXR
06-27-2006, 10:10 PM
so there's nowere in hell i can unlock the piplines?
why?

I got a crappy DELL 8400 system too.. :laugh:

wich of the coolers are best?

stevorob
06-27-2006, 10:17 PM
Casheti
stfu and quit spamming.

NSXR
I know how you feel... my system is getting pretty old, so eventually I'll be building a new one... I've got an 8300.

For my comp, I chose the ATI Silencer purely because it vents heat out of the back of the case... my case has poor ventilation, so it doesn't take much to heat it up. Temps are good with the silencer... 33-35 idle depending on room temp and about 53-55 load.

Casheti
06-27-2006, 10:36 PM
Dont tell me to shut up, and I'm not spamming, I'm giving you advice.

drade
06-27-2006, 10:43 PM
Wow this is getting nasty.

NSXR
06-27-2006, 10:55 PM
Wow this is getting nasty.

LOL!

My DELL system is old too. And the cooling is so bad that I need to open the window if I use it over a long time! Yeh, it warms up my entire room!

stevorob
06-28-2006, 12:03 AM
Casheti
I have reported you for spam and harassment... quit being a little kid a grow up. I don't need to take advice from you about my system. I have noticed how you constantly spam and harass people telling them "that sucks, you should have bought this" or "My video card is better than that". How about being helpful instead of being a dick to people. Maybe someone would then listen to you...

NSXR
Yeah, mine does the same thing if I leave my door closed... my room will heat up 6 or 8 degrees. When you're not in your room, heh, leave the door open and get some circulation.

Casheti
06-28-2006, 12:16 AM
Listen stevorob, I don't care what you report me for, because I think you're a n00b to be honest. And I like the word n00b, because I think it's funny. And what's with the WTF???

I have had 206 posts now, and only YOU have ever had a problem with them, so it's you who is creating the problem in the first place, by moaning.

stevorob
06-28-2006, 12:20 AM
Oh gosh... he called me a n00b.... I'm so hurt.

Casheti
06-28-2006, 12:21 AM
See, there you go again, turning it into an insult competition, it's me who should be reporting you, but I'm not that sad.

Oh, and I like your knowledge of computers, like, where you have put next to motherboard: Dell. No...Dell is a manufacturer of computers. They make motherboards for sure, but they dont call their motherboards...Dell

W1zzard
06-28-2006, 12:24 AM
you two stop fighting please

ali2487
06-28-2006, 01:03 AM
guys come on no need to have a cyber fite!

please both of you stop actin like KIDS!

stevorob
06-28-2006, 01:06 AM
I'm done.

Casheti
06-28-2006, 08:35 AM
What's say we settle this on the black top? My '67 Ford Mustang against your whatever? Hmmm??

rpg711
06-28-2006, 12:07 PM
oh wow :rolleyes: sad.....

NSXR
06-28-2006, 12:20 PM
finally...

rpg711
06-28-2006, 12:23 PM
and also... stevorob... ur comp sucks...change it. Casheti was trying to help u

Casheti
06-28-2006, 12:37 PM
rpg711, THANK YOU!

tigger
06-28-2006, 12:40 PM
here casheti-
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/u44237cpuzk231.jpg

Casheti
06-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Omfg Thats Amazing!! What Was Your Stock Clocks, Mulitiplier And Fsb??

Oh, and is this your motherboard?

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/imageview.php?image=9493

Cos OH MAN!! I wanna get me one of them babies hell yeh!

Oh, and also, are they 2 PCI-E slots I see?

Oh, and by the way, here is my CPU-Z screen.

Please tell me you didn't have to change the voltage, cos I'm no good at all that.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4909/cpuzscreen8nj.jpg

tigger
06-28-2006, 12:57 PM
do you wanna just create a new thread in general hardware so we can do this wiyhout upsetting anyone as this is x800 fuse thread?.
just create a thread of anything and we can talk in there.

Casheti
06-28-2006, 12:58 PM
OK. I made a Pentium D overclock thread. No worries mate. Lets go talk in there dude.

Casheti
06-28-2006, 01:02 PM
Pssst. It's in Overclocking!

Peterix
06-29-2006, 07:11 AM
Here's one
Club3D X800 RX
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1642/ati8003xg.jpg

yusufak
06-29-2006, 08:06 PM
Hello I bought i x800gto a week ago and i want to overclock it unlock and stuf like that

butt i dont know how to do it so please help explain PLEASE I BEG OF YOU OR SOMEONE

mmx
06-29-2006, 08:07 PM
Hello I bought i x800gto a week ago and i want to overclock it unlock and stuf like that

butt i dont know how to do it so please help explain PLEASE I BEG OF YOU OR SOMEONE
First read this http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367 and post your fuses to see if it can be unlocked

Casheti
06-29-2006, 08:07 PM
How much yo buy it for? More than £115 and you got ripped

yusufak
06-29-2006, 08:33 PM
bougt it for €150 I hope im not ripped of:confused:

yusufak
06-29-2006, 08:38 PM
And i have a r430 core I guess

yusufak
06-29-2006, 08:42 PM
I know for shure it can be unlocked its the same PLEASE HELP I BEG OF YOU AND KISS YOUR FEET

Casheti
06-29-2006, 08:57 PM
Well, I dont know what 150 euros translates into, but I guess you got an OK deal.

Casheti
06-29-2006, 08:58 PM
I got an X850XT for £115 which came from Calafornia

yusufak
06-29-2006, 08:59 PM
:respect: IF ANYONE KNOWS how to do it please please tell it to me:respect:

Casheti
06-29-2006, 08:59 PM
I CAN tell you how to overclock, but I don't know how to unlock or flash BIOS ok?

So...You want to overclock?

Do you have ATiTool or ATi Tray Tools?

tenstrum
06-29-2006, 09:22 PM
Got my replacement X800GTO yesterday and unlocked it to 16 pipes!

Casheti
06-29-2006, 09:23 PM
I Just Said I Know How To Overclock. Do You Want Help!!

yusufak
06-29-2006, 09:24 PM
How did you do it tell it to me

Ovelcloking is no problem my granma can do that whit his teeth

the problem is unlocking. I dont know nothing about it i searched alot and find alot of crap so i hope this helps PLEASE:respect:

Casheti
06-29-2006, 09:26 PM
Erm, what was this then?

"Hello I bought i x800gto a week ago and i want to overclock it unlock and stuf like that

butt i dont know how to do it so please help explain PLEASE I BEG OF YOU OR SOMEONE"

yusufak
06-29-2006, 09:28 PM
ehehe Srry that me being silly i just meant unlocking

Casheti
06-29-2006, 09:31 PM
Ok. And If you can, fill in your system specs, it helps when people are trying to help you.

yusufak
06-29-2006, 09:39 PM
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
Moederbordnaam Intel La Crosse D865GLC (3 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN)
Moederbord Chipset Intel Springdale-G i865G
Systeemgeheugen [ TRIAL VERSION ]
BIOS Type AMI (08/04/05)
Communicatiepoort Communicatiepoort (COM1)
Communicatiepoort Printerpoort (LPT1)

Scherm:
Video kaart RADEON X800 GTO Secondary (256 MB)
Video kaart RADEON X800 GTO (256 MB)
3D-Versneller ATI Radeon X800 GTO (R430)
Monitor e-yama 17JN1 [17" LCD] (30015388)

Multimedia:
Geluidskaart SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Intel D865GLC)

Opslag:
IDE apparaat Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
IDE apparaat Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers
Diskettestation Diskettestation
Harde schijf WDC WD1600JD-00HBB0 (149 GB, IDE)
Optische Station _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A (DVD+R9:4x, DVD-R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/24x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW)

Casheti
06-29-2006, 09:41 PM
Why did you use German software?

yusufak
06-29-2006, 10:03 PM
dutch

Casheti
06-29-2006, 10:07 PM
What, you ARE dutch?

tigger
06-29-2006, 10:43 PM
hello there mate,i will be getting a powercolor x800xl in a couple of weeks,its already 16 pipe unlocked,i dont know if it will be much better than this tho'.

Casheti
06-29-2006, 10:44 PM
Dude, Why, You Have An X800 Already, At Least Get The Xt, Or An X850

Casheti
06-29-2006, 10:50 PM
Wanna see something amazingly flukey?

This is the first ever benchmark I did with my X850XT, and for some reason, it got whoop ass reults.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1599/myfuckingamazingwhoopassresult.jpg

bchivers
06-29-2006, 11:29 PM
How did you do it tell it to me

Ovelcloking is no problem my granma can do that whit his teeth

the problem is unlocking. I dont know nothing about it i searched alot and find alot of crap so i hope this helps PLEASE:respect:
Here is a good place to start.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8060

tigger
06-29-2006, 11:57 PM
how do you get the tray tool benchmarker m8?.

Frogger
06-30-2006, 03:39 AM
how do you get the tray tool benchmarker m8?.

do a google on 'Ray ADams ati tray tools' download and install:wtf: :wtf:

Casheti
06-30-2006, 08:22 AM
I think the reason for that score was because my card was somehow staying cool. When the temperatures start to pick up...I get crappy marks.

ali2487
06-30-2006, 08:51 AM
GUYS please remember this is for fuse data unlocking!

NightShade_pt
07-01-2006, 02:37 AM
http://nightshade.no.sapo.pt/atitool.JPG

people, can i execute the mod?
my videocard is a gigabyte x800pro 256mb @ 500mhz in core and 550mhz in mems...

Mortanius
07-08-2006, 04:43 AM
CONFIG FUSES OXFFFDFFF
SUBSTATE FUSES OXFFFFFFF9E
CONFIG 0X261
R480 + Show R423 How Can I change this ?

Can I Unlock any Pipes or not ?

Gabkicks
07-08-2006, 08:23 AM
doesnt look like ya can because of teh E on the end of your substate fuses

Mortanius
07-08-2006, 07:54 PM
doesnt look like ya can because of teh E on the end of your substate fuses


I can do LaserCut on R480 its possible !

peta01
07-09-2006, 01:34 AM
I can do LaserCut on R480 its possible !

If you find the correct bridges :laugh:
It is not possible to do the "laser cut mod" on R480. This can be done only with R423.
Sorry man, but there is not way how to unlock pipes on your card. :(

Mortanius
07-09-2006, 04:15 AM
If you find the correct bridges :laugh:
It is not possible to do the "laser cut mod" on R480. This can be done only with R423.
Sorry man, but there is not way how to unlock pipes on your card. :(


Thanks

ali2487
07-09-2006, 01:53 PM
If you find the correct bridges :laugh:
It is not possible to do the "laser cut mod" on R480. This can be done only with R423.
Sorry man, but there is not way how to unlock pipes on your card. :(

hey guys i have been wanting to do the hard mod on the x800 gt with r423 board

i jus wanted to know how?

The_M@ster
07-09-2006, 02:23 PM
Hello,

I have a X800 GT with 8 pp.
Can I have 12 pp with this card ?
I join a picture to help you :
http://www.hiboox.com/vignettes/2706/j87smqt.jpg (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=j87smqt.jpg)

Thx for your answer ;)

dolf
07-09-2006, 08:05 PM
Hello,

I have a X800 GT with 8 pp.
Can I have 12 pp with this card ?
I join a picture to help you :
http://www.hiboox.com/vignettes/2706/j87smqt.jpg (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=j87smqt.jpg)

Thx for your answer ;)

Unfortunately you can't have more pipes but the core should be R480 and should be very good overclocker (600+ MHz).

The_M@ster
07-09-2006, 09:47 PM
THX for the answer but the core is R423 not R480

Steevo
07-09-2006, 09:50 PM
No, it is a R480. The BIOS just reports it as a R423, it is in essence lying to the drivers when they install.


Now don't talk back to the man.

The_M@ster
07-09-2006, 09:52 PM
Excuse me,I thought it is R 480.
Thx for the answer ;) :(

rpg711
07-09-2006, 09:55 PM
look on the chip if ur still doubtfull, if its r423 then there usually wont be anything but if its r480 there will be the letters r480

Steevo
07-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Or just OC it and see how far it goes.

Low 400's is a R423 or crappy R430, mid 400's is a common R430 and anything over 480Mhz is a R480.

Pretty simple.

rpg711
07-09-2006, 09:58 PM
Or just OC it and see how far it goes.

Low 400's is a R423 or crappy R430, mid 400's is a common R430 and anything over 480Mhz is a R480.

Pretty simple.
no, some amazing r430's made it to 500 core but anything over 550 core is a r480

Steevo
07-09-2006, 09:59 PM
no, some amazing r430's made it to 500 core but anything over 550 core is a r480


With aftermarket cooling solutions.

rpg711
07-09-2006, 10:01 PM
or, u have a his x800gto with r430 core... i have a r480 but im making a example as r430... their coolers are amazing, its a modded version of the ac silencer except it has a copper base that has aluminum fins

skooma
07-09-2006, 11:56 PM
Ok heres mine: Sapphire X800GTO with standard 12 pipes.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4889/untitled13jk1.jpg

I'm not a complete noob when it comes to computers but i am a complete noob when it comes to overclocking and such, so if someone has the time to take me through unlocking it to 16 pipes (if i even can) then please do, thanks.

rpg711
07-10-2006, 12:01 AM
no... did u underclock ur vid card to 23 core 1 mem? that cant be right use the beta 14 version instead

skooma
07-10-2006, 12:08 AM
lol, yea i just noticed that after i posted, here is the one from beta 14 version
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9247/untitled24pj.jpg

rpg711
07-10-2006, 12:10 AM
unlockable dunno wat to do but its unlockable, dolf... we need u

skooma
07-10-2006, 12:12 AM
unlockable dunno wat to do but its unlockable, dolf... we need u

ok well thank you, i have to go now i'm tired :laugh: but i will check back tomorrow evening to see if dolf can sort it :)

rpg711
07-10-2006, 12:16 AM
ya np

Steevo
07-10-2006, 12:19 AM
Dump your BIOS in additional options, and save it to a compressed folder, and post it for modding.

AntiKris
07-10-2006, 01:38 AM
Hey folks--I've tried to sort through the forums and figure it out for myself, but now I'm just really confused. Here's the fuse info from AtiTool:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x6E48

I've got 12 pipes showing; apparently the 1 at the end of the ROM_FUSES indicates that one quad is locked in the bios. I've got a sinking feeling that my first register is the kiss of death, as it's the same as H20's, and for some reason, Dolf deemed his pipes unlockable. Hopefully I'm wrong, so two questions:

a) can I unlock 16 pipes?
b) if not, is there anything else I can do with the card?

Appreciate your patience and advice. Cheers.

rpg711
07-10-2006, 02:33 AM
correct me if im wrong, im rather new at this fuses stuff but the config die seems ok... im not sure about the substrate... doesnt it have to be a f instead of a e? and i would like to learn how to read the last 2 fuses

dolf
07-10-2006, 07:52 AM
Ok heres mine: Sapphire X800GTO with standard 12 pipes.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4889/untitled13jk1.jpg

I'm not a complete noob when it comes to computers but i am a complete noob when it comes to overclocking and such, so if someone has the time to take me through unlocking it to 16 pipes (if i even can) then please do, thanks.

It is strange result for ATITool because that are not the fuse values but the core registers themselves. Try with other version and if the result is the same just flash with 16 piped BIOS and see. If you have 16 pipes the fuses are OK and you don't need to worry. If still 12 pipes something with the fuses isn't OK but you can't do nothing.


CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x6E48

I've got 12 pipes showing; apparently the 1 at the end of the ROM_FUSES indicates that one quad is locked in the bios. I've got a sinking feeling that my first register is the kiss of death, as it's the same as H20's, and for some reason, Dolf deemed his pipes unlockable. Hopefully I'm wrong, so two questions:

a) can I unlock 16 pipes?
b) if not, is there anything else I can do with the card?

Unfortunately your feeling is correct and you can't unlock more pipes. The only thing that you can do is to overclock.

tc_terencec
07-10-2006, 09:28 AM
CAn I unlock to 16 pipelines... or am i stuck at 12?? Sapphire Radeon X800GTO Ultimate PCI-e Core = R480.... more system specs on side...

mmx
07-10-2006, 09:39 AM
CAn I unlock to 16 pipelines... or am i stuck at 12?? Sapphire Radeon X800GTO Ultimate PCI-e Core = R480.... more system specs on side...
Sorry , no more pipes for u, but R480 is a great owerclocker.

tc_terencec
07-10-2006, 09:45 AM
ahhh darn... whatever... it was a gift from my dad anyways :p being a 16 year old kid sure sucks sometimes...

Anyhow... i might be posting this on the wrong thread... but some quick feedback would be nice...

I got Catalyst 6.6 installed, and Battlefield 2 with patch 1.30. Even if I run BF2 with settings at low, and catalyst options set at "high performance" AND with the card overclocked using sapphire's TRIXX, i still get occasional frame drops and major lags, and sometimes it just quits the game immediately after loading the map... Perhaps this is the result of the lack of RAM in my system (512mb value ram) :D thx!

skooma
07-10-2006, 11:48 AM
Dolf i already did it with the beta 14 version its on the page before but i'll post it here too :)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9247/untitled24pj.jpg

by the way, im not sure if it matters but its an AGP card.

skooma
07-10-2006, 11:56 AM
ahhh darn... whatever... it was a gift from my dad anyways :p being a 16 year old kid sure sucks sometimes...

Anyhow... i might be posting this on the wrong thread... but some quick feedback would be nice...

I got Catalyst 6.6 installed, and Battlefield 2 with patch 1.30. Even if I run BF2 with settings at low, and catalyst options set at "high performance" AND with the card overclocked using sapphire's TRIXX, i still get occasional frame drops and major lags, and sometimes it just quits the game immediately after loading the map... Perhaps this is the result of the lack of RAM in my system (512mb value ram) :D thx!

I have an X800GTO AGP and 1280mbs RAM, i usually get about 30-40 fps on BF2 without it dropping at all, but everytime i load a single player map the game crashes to the desktop :confused:

skooma
07-10-2006, 12:02 PM
Dump your BIOS in additional options, and save it to a compressed folder, and post it for modding.
Here you go. (at least i think thats what you wanted me to do)

3045

dolf
07-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Skooma, here you are modede to 16 pipes BIOS. Flash it with atiflash using the following command line: atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin
Or you can use my automated bootable flash utility on CD image: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

Download also the flashing instructions. You have to use the main utility because it contains your BIOS (not ver.1 or ver.2)

Success

skooma
07-10-2006, 12:53 PM
Do i use the ATI winflash utility with the cd image? also, just a couple of questions, will this cause alot of extra heat on my graphics card? from the tempatures i have heard other people tell me their card usually runs at i think mine must have a relativley good fan :) the most i have seen it is about 60 degrees while gaming. Also a little off topic, do you think the omega drivers are better than catalyst?

rpg711
07-10-2006, 12:59 PM
dont use winflash as it doesnt save a backup, ur better off using ati flash and the atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin command umm omegas are better for the 9000's but catalyst is better for most others but if u want allittle more fps, get hacked drivers like dna drivers this is the site where u get it (dna-drivers.com)

skooma
07-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Ok and where are the flashing instructions i cant seem to find them:confused:

rpg711
07-10-2006, 01:03 PM
ok if ur new to cd images, use nero or any other burning and use the burn image thing and burn it to a cd, once u do that restart comp and go to bios, put cd as the first boot device and success, dont forget to use the atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin command and success;)

skooma
07-10-2006, 01:22 PM
Ok done! thanks you guys are legends :) i chose the overclocked one because i wasnt sure what realto was :confused: but i just checked with everest and it says 16 pipelines so i'm happy. But when you said not to forget to use atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin command where was i suppose to use it? because i didnt use it at all :ohwell:

rpg711
07-10-2006, 01:23 PM
gj on unlocking! lol i just unlocked so i have no idea wat im talking about but it seems like i did it right then

dolf
07-10-2006, 03:35 PM
Skooma atiflash is integrated in the Flash Utility. Flash instructions are also hosted in the link where the utility is. OC BIOS should be used after the unlocking of 16 pipes if your core/memory can handle the speeds for long time under load with 16 pipes (it means tests). Realto is bridge which bridges the native PCI-E core (R430 on your card) to the AGP.