X800 fuses data for unlocking

[rpg711]

dolf, he alredy flashed to 16

[skooma]

Well thanks a million again guys :) i unlocked the 16 pipes and got the DNA drivers and now my fps in counter strike source has gone from a solid 60 to a whopping 120-130 :rockout:
Dolf, should i have used the realto? and if so is thier any harm in running the disk again and using realto this time?

[rpg711]

:rockout: dna drivers are awesome :rockout:

[skooma]

Eh, one thing i had noticed though, there is a new disk after appearing in my computer, its 7.96mbs and its named "RAMDRIVE" any ideas what that is?

[rpg711]

it could be the ram?

[Steevo]

Perform a cold boot. The CD uses a small portion of your system RAM to copy files to and move things around etc... And as you performed a warm boot the temporary drive was still left in place as there was still voltage supplied to the RAM.

For a cold boot shut down the computer for at least 30 seconds to allow for any static data still left in the systems main memory (RAM) to clear.

[rpg711]

in other words, a cold boot is a hard reboot, use the power button or shut down and shut down, after u see everything not spin, power up... thats a hard boot ;)

[Steevo]

No, a hard shutdown is holding the power off button to shut down a computer. I have never heard of a hard reboot.


Again, a cold boot is from a shutdown or off state, not a reboot, that is called a warm boot, as the CMOS doesn't have to be called again, it is already loaded and some residential data will still reside in volatile RAM.

[skooma]

Ok thanks, a few more graphics card related question if you dont mind :)
1. What is the max safe tempature for my graphics card to be at? (AGP x800GTO)
2. Is there any way to make my gfx card start up with the fans at 100%? they are currently at 52%
3.steevo, do you know if i should have used the realto installation from the cd image? (see the page before if you have no idea what i am talking about) i am not sure exactly what it does, does it like emulate a PCI-e version of the card? Anyway, if you can explian what it is and let me know if i can do it again but this time installing the realto thing. thanks

[rpg711]

max temp supported is 125 degrees but i reccomend u keep it under 80. u dont need to have the fan start at 100% because the vid card is idleing and wont create much heat... once u get into windows u can use ati tool to set it on 100% and save the profile... i use 3d detection so my 2d clocks on my x800gto is 400/400 and my 3d clocks is 650/650... i put 2d so low so i can turn fan to 5%... i have a HIS iceq2 cooler so im fine with running 400/400 on 5%
if it works then dont do anything else other than nessisary stuff

[skooma]

Thats the problem though i cant find where to turn the fans up in ATI tool, possibly because i'm using the beta? or maybe i just dont know where it is:) . oh and the RAMDRIVE thing never went away, but i dont think its doing any harm there, so its fine for now, who knows maybe one day it will just go away :laugh:

[rpg711]

u go to settings and u click the pull down thingy... fan control

[skooma]

Yea its not there, i guess they dont have it in the beta, i'll d/l another version

[rpg711]

yes it does... does it say ati too beta 14 on the top?

[skooma]

Yea but i got a different version now and its there along with some other options that werent there for me in the beta 14 (misc, refresh rate monitoring, and tempature monitoring)

[AntiKris]

Unfortunately your feeling is correct and you can't unlock more pipes. The only thing that you can do is to overclock.[/QUOTE]


Dolf, thanks for the feedback. Overclocking this baby seems to be working fine; guess I'm just greedy! :p

[bchivers]

Does the x1800 use the same method to unlock it's pipes as the X800?

[rpg711]

no, thats in a new thread

[tc_terencec]

dammit!!! seeing everybody being able to get an extra 4 pipes out of their cars make me feel suicidal... time to do the ZIDANE HEADBUTT!!!

[rpg711]

what? u cant unlock?

[tc_terencec]

CAn I unlock to 16 pipelines... or am i stuck at 12?? Sapphire Radeon X800GTO Ultimate PCI-e Core = R480.... more system specs on side...

Nope I dont think so...

[tc_terencec]

whoops forgot this...

[rpg711]

ehhh? no

[tc_terencec]

exactly :( well... I heard R480 core is great for overclocking... so i might just do that

[error_f0rce]

exactly :( well... I heard R480 core is great for overclocking... so i might just do that
Yes, they are great for OCing vs R430. In the end R480's can usually match at least the same benchmarks of 16 pipe unlocked R430, if not surpass them. Get some good aftermarket cooling, (i.e. Zalman vf900-cu, AC Silencer 5 Rev.2) and you'll be set!

[tc_terencec]

for some reason... my Sapphire X800GTO Ultimate has a built in fan on the back of the board (embedded into the heatsink) :twitch: I have no idea why... but the card was bought in Hong Kong from a well-trusted reseller... I'll post some pics later... if i decide to take my case apart again. but otherwise... anybody know if 512mb DDR400 RAM is way too little for my system? especially when I play Battlefield 2... because it just says "connection with server lost" when I finally finish loading a map for 10 minutes.

[rpgbefore...]

as the connection with server lost thing goes, its probably ur connection wat are u on? cable, dsl, 54k? also are u in network or not, wired or wireless. as the ram goes, if u want a 50% performance decrease in games sure... but u cant just have 512... the system will auto turn on virtual memory so u should get another 512 stick, anyways dualchannel has 2x the bandwidth of single channel anyways... and as the 10 minute loading time goes, wat hard drive do u have and wat speed(rpm)? how fragmented is it? wat interface is it? also, do u have a firewall because that might cause slower connection to servers resulting in higher pings.

[skooma]

Also if you have frequently changed the video options go into my documents and look for the battlefield folder then go into mods/bf2/cache and delete any folders in there then start up bf2 and load a map it will optimise your shaders and then try not to change the graphics settings anymore. this should help it load faster

[rpgbefore...]

is ur map loading time 10minutes itself? if it is thats amazing... i get like 20 secs... reformatting might help

[itguy]

I'm sad because I don't think I can unlock my just purchased Sapphire X800GTO card. Is there any hope for me? Can someone check out my fuse data and tell me what my options are? Can I still overclock it some even if I can't unlock it, and if so, how much should I go to for a safe and stable overclock?

http://img.techpowerup.org/060711/x800gto_fuses400.gif

[rpgbefore...]

no, no unlock for u :( but the overclock is up to u... i was lucky enough to get a high overclocking and unlocking one... wat core do u have? if its r480 then it should be able to reach 550/600 at least... it all depends on ur card

[error_f0rce]

I'm sad because I don't think I can unlock my just purchased Sapphire X800GTO card. Is there any hope for me? Can someone check out my fuse data and tell me what my options are? Can I still overclock it some even if I can't unlock it, and if so, how much should I go to for a safe and stable overclock?
check out what core ATiTool says you have (i'm guessing R480 since you can't unlock it). If it is R480, yes it has great overclocking potential. Let ATiTool determine what a safe/stable OC is. Do the "Find max core" and "Find max mem" on ATiTool and let that run until it starts finding artifacts, then you'll see the counter return to 0 seconds. You'll see what I'm talking about. Once you have found the max core/mem save it as a profile, then you can use those stable settings whenever you want to. But a word to the wise, watch your temps closely, you'll need some aftermarket cooling if you want to keep it OC'd while gaming for hours.

[rpgbefore...]

and if ati tool says r430 dont get too confident u cant overclock... take the heatsink off and see what it phisically says on the chip

[error_f0rce]

and if ati tool says r430 dont get too confident u cant overclock... take the heatsink off and see what it phisically says on the chip
Look, don't take the heatsink off unless you know what you're doing. You don't usually need to do that to confirm core type. If you take it off you will need to properly clean the GPU and your RAM chips and re-apply thermal paste to all (correctly) and reseat the heatsink.

EDIT: Come to think of it, why are your clock/mem set at 390|350? Default for Sapphire X800 GTO's is 400|490, have you been messing around with it? Anybody else see those clocks on a Sapphire X800 GTO?

[itguy]

No, those wre the settings that were on it when I first booted it up and installed ATI Tool. I have bad news. I clicked the core clock test button and it began raising the clock and my whole system crashed when it got to 445mhz. Now I can't even set the card back to default because it won't come up. I'm booting into my onboard video right now to type this. :(

This was a open box item off of newegg, so it's possible I got a card some kid already tried to overclock the crap out of and then returned after he smoked it. :( So how do I set it back to default mhz?

[error_f0rce]

No, those wre the settings that were on it when I first booted it up and installed ATI Tool. I have bad news. I clicked the clock test button and it began raising the clock and my system just crashed when it got to 445mhz. Now I can't set the card back to default because it won't come up. I'm booting into my onboard video right now to type this. :(

This was a used card off of newegg, so it's possible I got a card some kid already tried to overclock the crap out of and then returned. So how do I set it back to default mhz?
445 is good for an R430, but you still haven't told us what core ATiTool says you have. It looks to me like someone was messing with that card. When your system crashed, it will reset to stock clocks though, because ATiTool works on a software level and isn't changing your card bios. So I don't know why your computer isn't booting up after crash.

Crashing is not uncommon when finding your maxes, so that sucks but does happen sometimes. So if 445 was your max, set your profile at like 440. Now find max mem, set that about 5 below max and there you go! Make sure temp monitoring is one though.

EDIT: Run the "find artifacts" after setting your card at max core and mem and then let it run for a good while to make sure your settings are stable. If it start finding some in the first 10 minutes, back down your core setting just a few and try it again.... watch your temps while doing this. What's the max temp you've seen so far?

[itguy]

What temps do I want to be under for safety of the core? I saw that it was 58C when it was raising the core clocks before it crashed. I will now reboot and try to come back on the X800. I forgot to check ATItool if it was a 430 or 480 before this happened. ooops.

[rpgbefore...]

did u have the latest drivers installed and had the video card fail safe on?

[error_f0rce]

What temps do I want to be under for safety of the core? I saw that it was 58C when it was raising the core clocks before it crashed. I will now reboot and try to come back on the X800. I forgot to check ATItool if it was a 430 or 480 before this happened. ooops.
yeah, that's getting kind of warm; it's ideal to stay under 60c. Some guys here have cards that run much hotter than that though, so you should be ok for now. Just keep in mind, that fuzzy dice thing puts more strain on your card than just about any game will.

[rpgbefore...]

no... the fuzzy dice thing isnt the same as battlefield 2 fsaa at 6 af at 16 and all settings maxed... i get 45-70 fps at 1204*1048... and i get over 300 fps on the dice thing so games put more stress, also for temps.. when artifact scanning for the dice.. i get about 55max... when gaming i get 60 max

[error_f0rce]

no... the fuzzy dice thing isnt the same as battlefield 2 fsaa at 6 af at 16 and all settings maxed... i get 45-70 fps at 1204*1048... and i get over 300 fps on the dice thing so games put more stress, also for temps.. when artifact scanning for the dice.. i get about 55max... when gaming i get 60 max
First off your card is OC'd far past anything his card could reach and therefor your temps are completely irrelevant to his situation (not to mention your fps), in addition you have an iceq2 cooler and the manufacturers aren't the same.... so basically everything you said right there doesn't partain to him at all.

I think this goes back to thinking about what you're writing before you post it. I'm not trying to flame you or anything, but you're not helping him at all...

EDIT: btw, welcome back bunny :D

[rpgbefore...]

(\__/)bunny says "nice to be back" hello error!!!
(='.'=)
(")_(")
ya but the iceq2 cooler is just a modded silencer so if u get a silencer he should get comparable results... iceq2 is still better... its one of the best coolers... iceq3 is the best
edit: i ment air coolers

[error_f0rce]

ya but the iceq2 cooler is just a modded silencer so if u get a silencer he should get comparable results...
Ok, I'm gonna try one more time, and then just give up... he will not get comparable results. You can't even begin to compare the 650 overclock you have with a 440 OC. The temps could be drastically different.

I digress... :shadedshu

[rpgbefore...]

oh yeah... but isnt that only a 40mhz overclock?

[itguy]

OK. I finally got the darn thing to come back online. I have the 430 core and I set the over clock at 436 which is 9 lower than the max overclock I did when it crashed. I set the memory overclock at 371 which was right at the point when artifacts sharted showing up in the memory test.

So do I have a bad overclocker? Or is this what I should expect? I switched to a much more aggressive gpu fan schedule and my current temps are 47C while doing nothing except having it OC'd. It hit a max temp of 71C when doing a memory test and rotating the fuzzy dice and then it crashed again and that's when I upped the fan percentages.

[rpgbefore...]

ur fan is probably at 5%... u need to put at 100% and 70c!!! thats crazy!! that card is clocked at 430 core and its hitting 70? even on stock thats crazy

[tc_terencec]

as the connection with server lost thing goes, its probably ur connection wat are u on? cable, dsl, 54k? also are u in network or not, wired or wireless. as the ram goes, if u want a 50% performance decrease in games sure... but u cant just have 512... the system will auto turn on virtual memory so u should get another 512 stick, anyways dualchannel has 2x the bandwidth of single channel anyways... and as the 10 minute loading time goes, wat hard drive do u have and wat speed(rpm)? how fragmented is it? wat interface is it? also, do u have a firewall because that might cause slower connection to servers resulting in higher pings.

THanks for the advice! I just defraged my HD and it loads really really really quick... As for the RAM... I took a 512 stick from my dad's computer for a test, and it runs at full settings no problem! so if anybody has the same problems as me in BF2... I suggest taking RPG's advice and defrag your comp first.. and then get some ram!

[skooma]

I have mine at 450/560 any more than that and it locks up in games after about 10 mins play, even though the max temp it reaches is about 60.Oh and the same happens to me when detecting clocks in using ATI tool, it always crashes so you are not alone :)

[rpgbefore...]

get better cooling... ur card probably cant handle 60c :eek: or u reached the absolute limit

[skooma]

To be honest i wouldnt be bothered at the moment, maybe in the future sometime, but right now i am VERY pleased with the unlocking of the pipes, new drivers etc. its increased my fps in games by a hell of a lot

[error_f0rce]

ur fan is probably at 5%... u need to put at 100%
yes RPG is right in this instance, you need to make sure your fan is set at 100% when benchmarking your graphics card.

It sounds to me like you have a bad card, that's probably why it was returned before. To my knowledge, those are not stock settings... defaults should be 400|490 on Sapphire X800 GTO's. Manufact website says so, and I know cause I have one.

IMO RMA it, suck up the shipping costs and just order another, preferably new if you can swing it. Then we'll see about getting that sucker unlocked and OC'd proper. Good luck!

[rpgbefore...]

yes RPG is right in this instance
HA I SAID SOMETHING RIGHT!!!! :rockout:

[Azn Tr14dZ]

For the first time...

[rpgbefore...]

THanks for the advice! I just defraged my HD and it loads really really really quick... As for the RAM... I took a 512 stick from my dad's computer for a test, and it runs at full settings no problem! so if anybody has the same problems as me in BF2... I suggest taking RPG's advice and defrag your comp first.. and then get some ram!
i say thats the second

[tc_terencec]

lol:roll:

[tc_terencec]

Yes, they are great for OCing vs R430. In the end R480's can usually match at least the same benchmarks of 16 pipe unlocked R430, if not surpass them. Get some good aftermarket cooling, (i.e. Zalman vf900-cu, AC Silencer 5 Rev.2) and you'll be set!

Are you sure the Vf-900CU is sufficient... looks pretty small to me... but again its copper :rockout:

[rpgbefore...]

its not small... if uve had it, ull no its HUGE it almost takes 2 slots

[itguy]

yes RPG is right in this instance, you need to make sure your fan is set at 100% when benchmarking your graphics card.
It sounds to me like you have a bad card, that's probably why it was returned before. To my knowledge, those are not stock settings... defaults should be 400|490 on Sapphire X800 GTO's. Manufact website says so, and I know cause I have one.
IMO RMA it, suck up the shipping costs and just order another, preferably new if you can swing it. Then we'll see about getting that sucker unlocked and OC'd proper. Good luck!
Anyone else ever seen an X800 GTO with default settings at 390/350?
I cranked the fan up to 100 percent and was able to get the memory up to 384.75@70C before it artifacted and froze. Afterthat, I tried a few more times to up the core clock with 100% fan but I couldn't even get past 438.75 without it crashing.

Using the stock settings of 390/350 I played counterstrike for an hour and the temp was 55C. Idle at stock it is 49C. I'm going to uninstall the drivers and use catalyst 6.4 version. If it is still heating up and not overclocking, then it looks like I will be calling to RMA it tomorrow.

[dolf]

Yes such GTO exists (390/350MHz) but it is with 128MB DDR memory (like on 9800PRO - 2.8ns).

[josedu]

can i unlock this card?

[dolf]

can i unlock this card?

Lucky you to have R480. It means that you can overclock it (deppending on Vcore) to 500-600MHz. Flash with the moded BIOS "bios16.bin" to unlock the pipes and test for max. core/memory with ATITool.
If you can, please show me a picture of your card in order to prepare Automated flash Utility and to include the card in the flash instructions file. Please report your max. core and memory overclock after flashing to 16 pipes.

Use atiflash under DOS with the following command line:
atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin

Success

[error_f0rce]

Yes such GTO exists (390/350MHz) but it is with 128MB DDR memory (like on 9800PRO - 2.8ns).
Wow, news to me. Thanks for the info dolf! If you want a good gaming card, I guess I would stay away from that one then.

[error_f0rce]

can i unlock this card?
Ahhhh... lucky man, R480 and unlockable. :rockout: Please post your max/mins like dolf said, I'd like to see how that works out and what 3DMark05 score you can swing with it OC'd and unlocked. Congrats! :D

[zxc]

can i unlock this card? the card is sspphire x800gto pci-e

[itguy]

Yes such GTO exists (390/350MHz) but it is with 128MB DDR memory (like on 9800PRO - 2.8ns).
Yes, DOLF is correct. My GTO card only has 128mb. So why would the 128mb versions have a crappier core than the 256 versions that are defaulted at 450/490mhz? I assumed when I ordered it that all the 430 cores would be the same and I would just have less memory to work with, but it looks like it is normal for the 128mb versions of the X800 GTO to have lower default core and memory speeds as well as less ram.

Does anyone have the 3Dmark scores of the stock 128mb GTO's when compared to the higher clocked and more memory stock 256mb GTO's? Looks like I now have a decision to make.

EDIT: In another post, Dolf commented that the 128 versions may use 2.8ns ram while the 256 versions use 2ns ram.

[rpgbefore...]

can i unlock this card? the card is sspphire x800gto pci-e
nope but u can overclock :D

[rpgbefore...]

Yes, DOLF is correct. My GTO card only has 128mb. So why would the 128mb versions have a crappier core than the 256 versions that are defaulted at 450/490mhz? I assumed when I ordered it that all the 430 cores would be the same and I would just have less memory to work with, but it looks like it is normal for the 128mb versions of the X800 GTO to have lower default core and memory speeds as well as less ram.

Does anyone have the 3Dmark scores of the stock 128mb GTO's when compared to the higher clocked and more memory stock 256mb GTO's? Looks like I now have a decision to make.
i dont but just to tell u, i suggest u get a 256 ddr3 one because they are clocked higher and use faster ram, ur games would be hindered by a 128 ddr if u play on higher settings.this is the card i have (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166) its on newegg for 150 with a 30$ rebate 6$ shipping... if ur lucky u can unlock and get clocked as high as me

[stevorob]

josedu... you're a very lucky man.

I guess like everyone else said, post your max core/mem speeds after the 16 pipe unlock.

I want your card :P

[tc_terencec]

can i unlock this card? the card is sspphire x800gto pci-e

you have the exact same fuses as me...! Sorry but you cant unlock it... but I overclocked my card (Sapphire X800GTO ULTIMATE PCI-e) to core:560 and mem:510 and it runs like a dream. I am currently playing Battlefield 2 on the highest possible settings, except AA4x and have used ATI Tray Tools to put the card's prefs on full quality as well... So dont be sad. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE 1GB OF RAM, YOU WILL PWN :rockout: :rockout:

[rpgbefore...]

wat fps are u getting? im guessing like 10 min 20 avg and 30 max... because for my x800 gto 16pipes 650/650... i play on everything maxed... at 1204*1028 and i get 40 min, 50 avg and 62 max

[tc_terencec]

yes, your prediction is right, I get average i say around 33

[error_f0rce]

i dont but just to tell u, i suggest u get a 256 ddr3 one because they are clocked higher and use faster ram
Agreed. If you have that kind of cash and want a good gaming card, it would be good investment for the price. Between the card you have and a 256MB DDR3 card you will see a significant increase in gaming performance. Also, I'm guessing that card is 128bit as well?? Most other GTO's are 256bit which is a plus as well.

What it really comes down to is what you want out of your card. Here's some advice: spend some time playing some games you own, try seeing how high you want your settings and if that works for you and you're happy great! If it's still not enough, then consider a different card, but don't just get a more expensive card for the sake of having a better card. Get what you need and will be happy with. :)

EDIT:
the 256 versions that are defaulted at 450/490mhz
btw, those typical GTO stock clocks are 400|490

[rpgbefore...]

for me, i have to have the fsaa atleast at 6x because i CANT STAND THE STUPID JAGGYS... in fear the jaggys are freaking the crap outa me... i think people are everywhere and when i turn back around i see alma staring at me... i pause it right there and lie on my bed...

[josedu]

josedu... you're a very lucky man.

I guess like everyone else said, post your max core/mem speeds after the 16 pipe unlock.

I want your card :P

with 12 pipes have the card running 500/550 but the atitool says 567/592 when i put 16 pipes tell you results.
12 pipes 500/550 3d mark 03 10657pts
3d mark 05 5121pts

[josedu]

i flash the bios and this is my new card.
thank you very much

[itguy]

OK. I have a chance to get this card: "connect3D 3038 Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM " for $25 more than my open box Sapphire X800 GTO 128mb that had stock clocks of 390/350mhz and seemed to run hot.

The connect 3d card should have 400/490 clocks and has double the memory and faster memory. The connect3d card is also an open box, so I doubt that I can unlock it (Who in their right mind would return an unlockable GTO?).

I should RMA the 128mb sapphire and get the connect 3d for 25 bucks more right? I would get a brand new one but I don't have enough funds.

P.S. Do people really need the cables and dvi adaptor that come in the retail version. I ask this because I will get no accessories at all. Just the card itself.

[rpgbefore...]

nonoononno dont get that!!! get this, the his x800gto with a 30$ rebate making it 120$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166) i have the card and u see... it overclocks sooo good

[error_f0rce]

with 12 pipes have the card running 500/550 but the atitool says 567/592 when i put 16 pipes tell you results.
12 pipes 500/550 3d mark 03 10657pts
3d mark 05 5121pts
can you list the rest of your system specs?

[rpgbefore...]

yes, your prediction is right, I get average i say around 33
i wouldnt play at 33... i can barely play at 50 but when i loosen the graphics settings for more fps... it looks really annoying... :ohwell:

[error_f0rce]

nonoononno dont get that!!! get this, the his x800gto with a 30$ rebate making it 120$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166) i have the card and u see... it overclocks sooo good
Well the VIVO is nice if you're gonna use it, if not then I would go with the ICEQ2. HIS is a good brand and also remember that if you're gonna OC it, you want a good cooler and the ICQ2 already comes with one. If you get the GTO you'll have to buy and install a cooler if you want to OC it much. Up to you bro...

[itguy]

nonoononno dont get that!!! get this, the his x800gto with a 30$ rebate making it 120$ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166) i have the card and u see... it overclocks sooo good
I was checking that one out too. It looks awesome! For that one it says the clock is 500mhz compared to 400mhz for the connect3d. Is that because the HIS radeon has a 480 chip in it or is it because it has a massive icy turbo cooler on it. LOL. Also, if I get the one above, what's the percent odds that I can get to 16pipes sometime down the road?
P.S. Thanks for all the help. You guys are great!:toast:

[rpgbefore...]

i dunno the percentage but some all of the his ones are r480 because they factory test the clocks and the ones that dont pass the 500/500 clocks are eliminated... so chances of high overclock is 100% and chances of unlock is like probably 50-60% u can get it to 650/650 with 16 pipes if ur lucky... i did!!! play all games on all highest at 1204*1028 with 6 fsaa and 16 af

[error_f0rce]

P.S. Do people really need the cables and dvi adaptor that come in the retail version. I ask this because I will get no accessories at all. Just the card itself.
No you don't need any of that junk unless you going to be using the VIVO or something. Your monitor should plug in just fine to the VGA or DVI port (whatever cable you already use).

[josedu]

pentium 4 3.0 1gb ddr sata 120gb

[rpgbefore...]

P.S. Do people really need the cables and dvi adaptor that come in the retail version. I ask this because I will get no accessories at all. Just the card itself.
ya u need the vivo if u wanna connect it to hd, i did once with my 7.1 dolby digital and my 70" plasma and it was so fun playing games on... just a bit too scary on fear

[error_f0rce]

7.1 dolby digital and my 70" plasma
holy cow, your parents must be loaded...

[itguy]

OK. Which one would be the fastest. And which is the best deal.

1. HIS X800 GTO with 500/500 clocks brand new in box with all cables for $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166

2. HIS X800 XL with 400/490 clocks but all 16 pipelines open for $120. This is an open box return item and it has no cables and is used.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161165R

3. Same as #1 but OPEN Box returned HIS X800 GTO with 500/500 clocks. No cables. $93

4. Or go super cheap and get the connect 3d X800 GTO OPEN BOX with 400/490 clocks for only $80.

[rpgbefore...]

get the his, it has 1.6 ns memory that can overclock really well and the c3d only has 2ns memory, the his is only 120 anyways

[error_f0rce]

OK. Which one would be the fastest. And which is the best deal.

1. HIS X800 GTO with 500/500 clocks brand new in box with all cables for $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166

2. HIS X800 XL with 400/490 clocks but all 16 pipelines open for $120. This is an open box return item and it has no cables and is used.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161165R

3. Same as #1 but OPEN Box returned HIS X800 GTO with 500/500 clocks. No cables. $93

4. Or go super cheap and get the connect 3d X800 GTO OPEN BOX with 400/490 clocks for only $80.
Good question... one of the first two for sure. Read some reviews for the XL and the TURBO and see what the scores have been in the past. It's best to do some research at this point. Both are great deals though!!!

[rpgbefore...]

ehhh... u wanna get the x800gto... heres the review
it overclocks to the moon
it unlocks 60% of the time
it overclocks high 100% of the time cause the r480 chip
its good
buy it...
if ur still doubting the overclocking read my sys specs

[lilpsboi]

I hav the His x800gto ice2 turbo, is unloking the 4 extra pipelines possible

[lilpsboi]

oh yeah the card is VIVO

[lilpsboi]

For the people dat already flash the card, which HIS bios did u guys use, and when you flashed it did u guys lose vivo functionality

[tc_terencec]

I hav the His x800gto ice2 turbo, is unloking the 4 extra pipelines possible

show us your fuses with a screenshot from ATI Tool.

[lilpsboi]

Dont really know how to take a screen shot but here's the fuses

CONFIG_DIE 0xFFFFFFFF

CONIFG_SUB 0xFFFFFF9F

CONFIG_ROM 0x261

GP_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

[tc_terencec]

from what I see YES you can unlock to 16 pipelines... However I do not know how to mod/alter the bios, so you will have to wait until somebody that knows comes online (wait for a about a day or so)

[rpgbefore...]

1. Download and unpack the archive.
2. Burn the iso image on CD (CD-RW) using the option "burn image" in your burning software.
3. Adjust the MOBO's BIOS for first boot device to be the CD
4. Boot from the already burned CD
5. Choose one of the following flash options:
- Flash to 16 pipes X800GTO PCI-E, R480 (VIVO)
- Flash to X850XT PCI-E, R480, 1xVGA/1xDVI, (520/540MHz)
- Flash to X850XT PE PCI-E, R480, 1xVGA/1xDVI (540/590MHz)
- Rollback to [ X800GTO, R480 (12 pipes - Original BIOS)

http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=482201

[lilpsboi]

whats the best option, I want the PE but ui think thats best choice

[tc_terencec]

RPG has been banned from the forum... so you would have to wait until someone comes along to help you. FOr now though, I suggest you download something like ATI TOol or ATI Tray Tools (dosent matter) and overclock your card to a safe level (use the Find Max Core and Find Max Mem functions in ATI Tool) After you overclock it, it should run pretty well already. It should be a good temp. (or permanent as well!) solution to making your card go faster while waiting for help.

[Frogger]

stock speeds for xt 520core 540 mem..... pe 540/ 590... use ati tool to test card at those speeds before flashing .... you can unlock to 16 pipes but you should check the speeds to make sure that card will be stable before setting the speeds to default with flash...if card is stable at xt or pe speeds you can use Dolf's utility for the flash ..http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=482201

[dolf]

whats the best option, I want the PE but ui think thats best choice

This is the link http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=482201 (given to RPG) to my bootable flash utility containing the described options. Which is best you have to find yourself. Test and see. Personally I prefer to see X850XT PE (especiaaly when the card realy is XT PE with 1xVGA 1xDVI and this is the only difference).

[64ninjas]

ok here's my information, hopefully I can unlock and flash to xt :toast:

Built by ATi (reference) x800 pro 256MB pci-e vivo

according to atitool...
Chip Type:R423
Active Pipelines: 12
GPU Clock: 475Mhz
Mem Clock: 450Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xEFF3EFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFF71E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES: 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT: 0x6E48

Thanks

[dolf]

Unfortunately not possible.

[64ninjas]

could I atleast unlock to 16 pipes?

[dolf]

could I atleast unlock to 16 pipes?

"atleast" - you can flash to XT (PE) but not to unlock 16 pipes.

[64ninjas]

ok apparently my pro vivo has the laser cut between the two pins mentioned in the article. What is the best way for me to reconnect them?

[dolf]

ok apparently my pro vivo has the laser cut between the two pins mentioned in the article. What is the best way for me to reconnect them?

Even connected the laser cut you probably will remain with 12 pipes (99% sure) but still there is chance. Use conductive paint, lacquer or other conductive material and connect the dots. But befor to connect clean the dots with something sharp because they are covered with insulator. Don't fill the laser cut just make the bridge around the cut. If you notice change in DIE fuse value after the connection it could have 16 pipes.

Good luck

[64ninjas]

I'll give it a try, thanks

[64ninjas]

made a new path, same values in atitool. thanks for trying to help me though, guess I'll be happy with what I have until I can afford an 850 or better

[dizzo]

here is my info, hopefully you guys/girls can help me out.


Device ID 554F
Chip Type R430
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724




tytyty

[stevorob]

here is my info, hopefully you guys/girls can help me out.


Device ID 554F
Chip Type R430
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724




tytyty

Heh, you didn't have to post twice in 2 different threads :P

But you can unlock your last 4 pipes. Try using dolf's flash utility, it's posted around here somewhere.

[EricS]

This is the link http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=482201 (given to RPG) to my bootable flash utility containing the described options. Which is best you have to find yourself. Test and see. Personally I prefer to see X850XT PE (especiaaly when the card realy is XT PE with 1xVGA 1xDVI and this is the only difference).

Is there a similiar program for AGP version of X800GTO with R480 core? (assuming my card can be unlocked)


http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=121632&postcount=577

[dolf]

There still haven't but if you post your BIOS I will include automated flash utility. Also I need to know how the card looks (the same like R430 version or different?), what is the average overclock of the core with 16 pipes to include overclocked BIOS (normal for R480 is 500 plus MHz).

[EricS]

There still haven't but if you post your BIOS I will include automated flash utility. Also I need to know how the card looks (the same like R430 version or different?), what is the average overclock of the core with 16 pipes to include overclocked BIOS (normal for R480 is 500 plus MHz).

I havent tried to unlock pipes on my card yet since I dont know if its possible. Details on my graphics card can be seen from link in my last post. I can overclock it with 12 pipes to core 550 and memory to 550 (1100).

It looks almost like on the picture posted below, but it has white power connector on the right upper corner and the layout and components are bit different. Cooler and color of the board are the same.

http://www.digitalreviews.net/reviews/200512/sapphireradeonx800gto/p4.jpg

Original bios with 12 pipes as attachment.

[dolf]

Your card can be unlocked. Tomorrow I will include Automated Flash Utility for your card :) .


Edited: Here you are a link to the promised Utility: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=733218

Success and let us know about the overclock of your core/memory :)

[EricS]

I'll unlock my card as soon as I get new PSU. I havent had any problems with current 300w power supply but I'm afraid that I'm already pushing it to the upper limits. I'll post info about unlock and overclock later when I've got the new PSU.

Thanks alot :)

[stevorob]

Your 300W should be able to handle it. I have a 250W and I have overclocked/unlocked my card and it still runs fine.

[Lehoka]

Hi there!

I think my x800gto's 12pp can be modded to 16pp.
I linked my ati tool screens and my dumped bios. Can anyone of you help me out here ??:confused:

[lilpsboi]

I hav a r480 core but only 12 active pipelines can I unlock the other four

0xffffbfff
0xffffff9e

[klen_ghost]

hello ,
i am an owner of an x800 gto fireblade pci-e vga card.
it has the R480 core and samsung 1.6 ns ram
but it seems that every thing i've read on all the forums that they all can clock much higher clock speeds than mine. my card goes to 420 core , 550 mem. stock cooling.
so my question is .. can i flash this card to an x 850 xt pe or an x 800 xt pe card.
if not can some one make/edit a bios for an sapphire x800gto fireblade
where 16 pixel pipes are unlocked and the core and mem speeds to 420 / 540.
if so i would be thanking you very much.
thanx in advance.

[stevorob]

Hi there!

I think my x800gto's 12pp can be modded to 16pp.
I linked my ati tool screens and my dumped bios. Can anyone of you help me out here ??:confused:

Yes, you can unlock your last set of pipes

Use this tool by dolf http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

I hav a r480 core but only 12 active pipelines can I unlock the other four

0xffffbfff
0xffffff9e

I don't beleive you can unlock your last set of fuses... Fuse data doesn't match up.

hello ,
i am an owner of an x800 gto fireblade pci-e vga card.
it has the R480 core and samsung 1.6 ns ram
but it seems that every thing i've read on all the forums that they all can clock much higher clock speeds than mine. my card goes to 420 core , 550 mem. stock cooling.
so my question is .. can i flash this card to an x 850 xt pe or an x 800 xt pe card.
if not can some one make/edit a bios for an sapphire x800gto fireblade
where 16 pixel pipes are unlocked and the core and mem speeds to 420 / 540.
if so i would be thanking you very much.
thanx in advance.

Post your screenshots from ATI tool and show your fuses... dolf will be able to tell you what you can do with your card. He's the x800 master.

[zipo]

can anyone please let me know if i can get extra pipes (16) with the following card
...thx

=======================
Club3d x800rx gto

Use DEV
0x4a49:R420, bus:1,dev:0

deviceID = 4a49
chipname = r420
host interface = agp
catalystversion = 6.5
mem size = 256
mem type = ddr3
mem bus width = 256
acive pipelines = 12
default gpu clk = 475.00 mhz
default mem clk = 450.00mhz
cfg die fuses = 0xeff3Bfff
cfg sub fuses = 0xffffff1e
cfg rom fuses = 0x8021
gb pipe select = 0x12b84

=======================

thx

[stevorob]

I don't believe you can zipo, as your fuse data doesn't match up. Sorry :(

[klen_ghost]

as you asked here is the screen of ati tool
http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/x800%20gto%20fireblade.JPG
everything i think you need is in there
and with that ati bench utility last night it said i scored higher dan an x1800xl well my speeds are even lower dan x800xt pe, so i gues i can't trust that it said i scored somewhere in the 6900 points area well it should be somerwhere around 4500.
3dmark03 score is 9595 with the 420 core , 540 mem speeds
so i think i can't reach the xt pe speeds at all
maybe that the bios of the xt pe gets more speed over the pci-e slot cause the sapphire x800gto fireblade doesn't have an extra powerconnector on it.
and in the bios i can't change the pci-e voltage settings but the pci-e mhz can be changed its is now on 120 mhz.
but if someone can edit an bios for my card where the 16 pp are open and the speeds have been edited to 420 core/ 540 mem. that would be perfect :)
thanx in advance :) ;)

[stevorob]

as you asked here is the screen of ati tool
http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/x800%20gto%20fireblade.JPG
everything i think you need is in there
and with that ati bench utility last night it said i scored higher dan an x1800xl well my speeds are even lower dan x800xt pe, so i gues i can't trust that it said i scored somewhere in the 6900 points area well it should be somerwhere around 4500.
3dmark03 score is 9595 with the 420 core , 540 mem speeds
so i think i can't reach the xt pe speeds at all
maybe that the bios of the xt pe gets more speed over the pci-e slot cause the sapphire x800gto fireblade doesn't have an extra powerconnector on it.
and in the bios i can't change the pci-e voltage settings but the pci-e mhz can be changed its is now on 120 mhz.
but if someone can edit an bios for my card where the 16 pp are open and the speeds have been edited to 420 core/ 540 mem. that would be perfect :)
thanx in advance :) ;)

You're in luck because you can unlock your last 4 pipes. dolf has a tool that you can use, I think... I know he has an R480 AGP tool, but since you're PCIE, that one will not work.

He'll be around, so dump your bios with ATI Tool, and post it up, and he'll mod it for you and make you a tool :)

[klen_ghost]

i'll hope it all works
max core with ati tray tools is 423 and with ati tool also 423
@ 424 it starts to give artifacts
and mem up to 555
but the 415 or 420 for core wil be fine
and 540 for mem wil also do for me.
and the 16 pp will be very nice

thanx in advance :) ( this site is the best ;) )

[dolf]

i'll hope it all works
max core with ati tray tools is 423 and with ati tool also 423
@ 424 it starts to give artifacts
and mem up to 555
but the 415 or 420 for core wil be fine
and 540 for mem wil also do for me.
and the 16 pp will be very nice

thanx in advance :) ( this site is the best ;) )

Your core seems to be R480 but "stumbled" if you have doubts you should look on it with your eyes. It can be unlocked to 16 pipes but probably that will limit the overclock further. I need the following information:
From the BIOS I saw that the card has 1xVGA / 1xDVI.
1. Does it have external power supply?
2. 2.0 or 1.6ns memory your card has?
3. What is the core voltage (Vcore=?)
4. What is the PCB Part Number (top-front side of the card, something like: PN 109-A474xx-xx)

Principaly it could be converted to real X850XT or X850XT PE but it have to reach XT or XT PE speeds first (probaly will be necessary Vmods). It is only possible using X850XT non VIVO 1xVGA / 1xDVI BIOS or my "special" modded X850XT PE non VIVO/VIVO 1xVGA / 1xDVI BIOS. Originally X850XT (PE) is designed with dual DVI.

For the core voltage and other voltmods you can read here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/voltmods/112

Here you are your BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Use atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 x80gto16.bin command in DOS mode and you will have 16 pipes ;) .

[klen_ghost]

thanx
and where can i see the vcore voltage ?
bios is limited @ my mobo ( k8nf4g sata 2 ) socket 754 , tried to find it there but it isn't in there :(.
i'll do my best to find the info you need
1. no it does not have external power supply
2. it has 1.6ns memory
3. i don't know as i told you above , maybe a programm where i can see / edit it execpt bios ?
4. pcb part number = PN 1024-BC60-01-SA

i hope you got enough info this way
ow and riva tuner also say's i have a R480 core so i believe that it is a R480
(don't have thermal paste so i can't check it with my own eyes

but thanx for the modded bios. and all the extra info

[Lehoka]

Thanx for the utility, but it doesn't seem working.:(
Ati tool says that the 16pps are in use, but I don't see any difference in performance (3D Mark). I tried two of the bioses, first the flash cd ver. 2, cuz my card has the same info.
Second I tried the first flash cd (not OC), and still nothing. How can it be solved?:confused:

[tc_terencec]

Guys... just a very very quick reminder.... its kind of irrelavent, BUT! Whenever you overclock, make sure you use the Find Max CORE/MEM tests. I was lazy and refused to use those methods and caused my video card to lock up everytime I ran a 3D app. Also, IF you DO overclock for an extended period of time, DO NOT, DO NOT stick with the stock cooler/fan. I was too lazy/cheap to get one and ended up getting 80+ degrees celcius. Luckily catalyst and its great VPU recovery reset my GPU just in time to prevent it from roasting *phew* btw I was running GTO Ultimate from sapphire (heatsink without fan) for 2.5 hrs overclocked to Core 560, mem 510 (anyone know if this is a good OC btw?)

[dolf]

klen_ghost, could you please direct me to a review of your card or to send me pictures of it (what exactly is your card?). I have attached 16 pipes BIOS in previous post but would like to help you (if possible) to make it X850XT or X850XT PE if it can handle the speeds after flashing to 16 pipes. To avoid any mistakes I need pictures.

The Vcore can be measured with multimeter (voltmeter) in points which can be found in the voltmod guide in the link, posted in the my previous post.

[klen_ghost]

i will do my best on the info you ask. going to take a picture ( with webcam )
and all the stores i call in my town say sorry no cooling paste ,or not in store.
grr.
but i'll post the pictures rightn away , ( don't have a multimeter )
ps. i am from holland
thanx ;)

[klen_ghost]

http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/complete card (down side ).JPG
http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/complete card (top side ).JPG
http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/label gto fireblade.JPG

as you asked for ( tell me if they are good enough )
i am waiting from a response from another pc store in town maybe they've got the thermal paste and then we all can move on faster cause i will be taking a look i've they've got the stuf.

[klen_ghost]

i am sorry for the ( blurry foto's ) just called another store they've got the thermal paste.
going to get it and after that i will be checking the core and the voltage if you can see it on there ?..

thanx for al the info

[klen_ghost]

so i took of the huge cooler and voila
the core isn't stumbled
the ****** at sapphire are cheating in the software :(
it is actualy an
Ati radeon X800 pro
R430 core
215RBBAKA11F
0512AAP
made in taiwan pci expres

that's al i can see on the core
so any thing that i can do with
something like a flash to 800xt pe if possible
need volt modding or so ?
so thanx for the bios but .. now it seems i need one for a R430 core
maybe x800xt or x800 xt pe .. or one with 16 pipes unlocked ( Makes atleast a small peformance boost.

thanx. to bad it is just some **** that made up this kind of software. so in windows every program it seems to be an R480 .. you look on the core it self and see .. an R430 :( ..
but the ram is samsung 1.6ns

thanx anyway. maybe you can make up something for me ?

[klen_ghost]

ow here are some new pic's. :) ..
hope you can help me out

thanx
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/x800gto fireblade core.jpg
http://www.klen.nl/Downloads/gto%20fireblade%20memory.JPG
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/backside.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/complete card (down side ).jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/complete card (top side ).jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/fireblade special edition.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/huh.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/label gto fireblade.jpg


ow the 6th picture that connector .. can anyone tell me where is that thing for .. i just saw it and i was like ..... uhhh yeah .. what for is it..

thanx

[stevorob]

Well, the R430 would be the reason why you can't overclock it as much as others with the R480 core can.

At least the core can be unlocked to 16 pipes though, so you've got that much out of it...

[klen_ghost]

well thats atleast something better :) .. and it was actualy more about the 16 pipes unlocked than the speeds ..( would be nice if it could be both ).. so speeds can't get higher or can they when extra power through a volt mod is done ?.
if so .. can any one tell me what i can do best to get more Core speed.
and a bios for 16 pipes on the R430 core would be nice

thanx for the hint on checking the core my self.. seems like those geus at sapphire are messing with us.

[dolf]

Everything is clear now. R430 is not supposed to be an overclocker. I also have learned something (get a proove) from that "R430 fireblade case". The Device ID of the PCI-E cards could be changed almost complete (3 digits) 5xxx, the AGP allows to change only the first two 4A(B)xx ;) .

[klen_ghost]

so we take the same bios as we have now , and we just change the pipeline setting so we can use 16 pipes. and then everything is ok . and i will be scoring in 3dmark 05 around 500 points or more higher ?.. i gues..

[dolf]

Did you flash it with the 16 pipes BIOS?.

I can send you X850XT BIOS for that card with limited clocks but it is useless because your core will be limited to 430MHz for instance.

Flash it as described early.

[Lehoka]

It's me again.;)

If I would link my bios here, anyone can mod it for me, pretty please?:respect:
Here it is.

[klen_ghost]

we have not yet flashed the card .. i was wondering what bios and what could be unlocked.
my brother wil be editing the bios you made a little bith
so it would be something like
16 pipes enabled
420 core
540 mem

so al little bit tweaked.
cause on that settings my card seems to peform best.
lets see what it does then

thanx for al the info and the bios you made
the r430 core with 16 pp bios i mean . and you gues are (Y) ..rlxt :)

[stevorob]

It's me again.;)

If I would link my bios here, anyone can mod it for me, pretty please?:respect:
Here it is.

Use dolf's automated flash utility http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

It already has a modified r430 AGP bios

[klen_ghost]

i have pci-e .. not agp .. but thanx anyway

[stevorob]

i have pci-e .. not agp .. but thanx anyway

I was directing that towards Lehoka. dolf will be getting back to you

[klen_ghost]

Ow ok sorry than
but thanx for all the help you give down here

[itguy]

ehhh... u wanna get the HIS x800gto... heres the review
it overclocks to the moon
it unlocks 60% of the time
it overclocks high 100% of the time cause the r480 chip
its good
buy it...
if ur still doubting the overclocking read my sys specs
Well, I took the advice of the banned guy right before he got banned and ordered a brand new HIS X800 ice II turbo because of the above input. I just got it in and it looks like I have an R430 chip in it! I'm so confused because newegg even advertised that the core clock speed of this card was 500mhz, but it is defaulting at 400/490, just like all the other r430 chips. :(
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161166

Am I doing something wrong on ATItool where it's not reading my card properly? I also, can't find the fuses, they are not there. Is there another tool I can download to view my fuse data? Please tell me I'm doing something wrong and my new card really is a R480.
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6591/hisx800turboiifusesbo6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[klen_ghost]

hold shift before pressing the settings key in ati tools
then you will get the fuse data ;)

[stevorob]

Unless you take off your heatsink/fan and visually inspect the core, then most of the time (95%) ATI Tool doesn't lie... looks like you have the R430.

Try overclocking... if you start crashing around 450MHz, then you have an R430 core... if you can get up to 500MHz, then you have the R480.

[woodhead]

I have just buyed Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO 256Mb for AGP. I have 12 pipelines (or something) in use only, but can i get all 16 to use?

http://jumbo66.adsl.netsonic.fi/jussi/r480.jpg

EDIT: And if answer is yes then how this is supposed to happen? I'm noob in overclocking and all kind of modding stuff. I have only overclocked my Ati Radeon 9200 mem and core clocks, but i haven't ever flashed bios or anything.

[Lehoka]

Thx, for the link again, but I said, it doesn't work.
Thats why I linked my bios in my previous post.
Ati Tool and RaBit says that the 16pps are running, but it doesn't seem so.

Is it possible to be my problem is that before I used that linked flash cd, I ran a modified flashrom.exe? After I ran it, ati tool said my 16pps are running, but I didn't flashed my bios with another bios file, just ran that exe only.

[Lehoka]

ps: I ran the flashrom.exe from winxp.

[itguy]

Unless you take off your heatsink/fan and visually inspect the core, then most of the time (95%) ATI Tool doesn't lie... looks like you have the R430.
Try overclocking... if you start crashing around 450MHz, then you have an R430 core... if you can get up to 500MHz, then you have the R480.
Thanks.
I can now see the fuses. So am I correct in assuming that I have an r430 chip and that I cannot unlock?
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4471/hisx800gtofusesdl1.gif (http://imageshack.us)
I was able to overclock it above 500mhz, but I'm sure it's because of the massive aftermarket cooler that this card ships with. It's a good overclocking result for an r430 chip. Can someone confirm if this card can be unlocked or not? I also saw a thread where a guy was able to modify the fuse data of his powercooler x800 GTO, and then unlock it eventhough the fuses were not the unlockable type at the beginning.

[stevorob]

I have just buyed Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO 256Mb for AGP. I have 12 pipelines (or something) in use only, but can i get all 16 to use?

http://jumbo66.adsl.netsonic.fi/jussi/r480.jpg

EDIT: And if answer is yes then how this is supposed to happen? I'm noob in overclocking and all kind of modding stuff. I have only overclocked my Ati Radeon 9200 mem and core clocks, but i haven't ever flashed bios or anything.

Use dolf's automated flash utility. Your pipes can be unlocked. http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168

Thx, for the link again, but I said, it doesn't work.
Thats why I linked my bios in my previous post.
Ati Tool and RaBit says that the 16pps are running, but it doesn't seem so.

Is it possible to be my problem is that before I used that linked flash cd, I ran a modified flashrom.exe? After I ran it, ati tool said my 16pps are running, but I didn't flashed my bios with another bios file, just ran that exe only.

If ATI Tool says that they are open, then they are open. I looked at your BIOS, and even the hex says that you should have 16 pipes enabled (If I read it right). Why does it seem that they are not enabled?

Thanks.
I can now see the fuses. So am I correct in assuming that I have an r430 chip and that I cannot unlock?
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4471/hisx800gtofusesdl1.gif (http://imageshack.us)
I was able to overclock it above 500mhz, but I'm sure it's because of the massive aftermarket cooler that this card ships with. It's a good overclocking result for an r430 chip. Can someone confirm if this card can be unlocked or not? I also saw a thread where a guy was able to modify the fuse data of his powercooler x800 GTO, and then unlock it eventhough the fuses were not the unlockable type at the beginning.

Your pipes aren't unlockable, although I'm not sure if there is a hardware mod that can be done to make it unlockable. 500Mhz is very nice with the R430 chip, even with great cooling.

[woodhead]

Use dolf's automated flash utility. Your pipes can be unlocked. http://savefile.com/projects.php?pid=971168



What different's between R430 and R480? Atitools says that i have R480, but that dolf's automated flash utility is meaned for R430?

[stevorob]

R480 is more overclockable than the R430. One sec, and I'll link you to the modded R480 AGP BIOS.

Here you go. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=119795&postcount=2061

[klen_ghost]

r480 is on the x850 series and if you can't oc high than it means you have an r430
r480 rocks while r430 S*cks
r430 can't be flashed to another only to 16 pp enabled

[Lehoka]

Well then, could it be that my prob is, that my motherboard has 4x agp?
Is the card slower in that, than the 8x agp?

[error_f0rce]

Well then, could it be that my prob is, that my motherboard has 4x agp?
Is the card slower in that, than the 8x agp?
Honestly, I upgraded from a 4x agp board to an 8x because I thought the same thing, but in all reality it isn't that much faster. It looks twice as fast on paper, but it doesn't give you as much as you think it would, although there is obviously increases in performance... but I tell ya it wasn't worth the money. IMO wait till you have enough $$ to buy a PCIe card and that's when you should change up your mobo. I love AGP, but it's on the way out and I'm going to follow mine own advice on this one.

[Lehoka]

Honestly, I upgraded from a 4x agp board to an 8x because I thought the same thing, but in all reality it isn't that much faster. It looks twice as fast on paper, but it doesn't give you as much as you think it would, although there is obviously increases in performance... but I tell ya it wasn't worth the money. IMO wait till you have enough $$ to buy a PCIe card and that's when you should change up your mobo. I love AGP, but it's on the way out and I'm going to follow mine own advice on this one.

Do u mind, if I ask that how many points did you get with 4x agp?

In 3Dmark 05 of course.

[error_f0rce]

Do u mind, if I ask that how many points did you get with 4x agp?

In 3Dmark 05 of course.
~4960 = 4x AGP stock clocks with 16 pipes (if I remember correctly)
5138 = 8x AGP stock clocks with 16 pipes

but just to be sure, when I get home tonight I'll run 3DMark05 on this board at 4x agp and give you that score so you can compare solid numbers.

Check back in a couple hours k?

[Lehoka]

~4960 = 4x AGP stock clocks with 16 pipes (if I remember correctly)
5138 = 8x AGP stock clocks with 16 pipes

but just to be sure, when I get home tonight I'll run 3DMark05 on this board at 4x agp and give you that score so you can compare solid numbers.

Check back in a couple hours k?

Oh, thanks a lot!:D

[woodhead]

R480 is more overclockable than the R430. One sec, and I'll link you to the modded R480 AGP BIOS.

Here you go. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=119795&postcount=2061

How big possiblies there is that i screw everything and what's the worst episode that can happen when that happens? I haven't yet tryed anything because i haven't be enough unscare to do that. And if something bad happens then what can i do or can i do anything to fix it? Have i then throw away 150euros of my money for free?

[error_f0rce]

How big possiblies there is that i screw everything and what's the worst episode that can happen when that happens? I haven't yet tryed anything because i haven't be enough unscare to do that. And if something bad happens then what can i do or can i do anything to fix it? Have i then throw away 150euros of my money for free?
you can always reflash the bios if it goes badly, so you can set it back to normal. you might need another graphics card to use temporarially if the flash goes bad, so you can boot up and reflash your other card. But I think the best way is to make an automated boot disk that will auto-reflash your card to stock bios. I believe dolf could help with that.

[stevorob]

How big possiblies there is that i screw everything and what's the worst episode that can happen when that happens? I haven't yet tryed anything because i haven't be enough unscare to do that. And if something bad happens then what can i do or can i do anything to fix it? Have i then throw away 150euros of my money for free?

It's pretty simple to do really... My advice is don't be scared, be confident that you can do it, and you'll do it right. As long as you follow the command line right, you can't mess up.

If you do mess it up, I think you can reflash the original BIOS back onto the card. Make sure you keep a copy on the boot disc that you make to do the modded flash. You can make a copy of your BIOS through ATI Tool. Its called Dump BIOS. Under miscellaneous I think.

[Flawz]

I could use some help with my Sapphire ATI Radeon x800GTO card. I need help unlocking my pipes.

Bios file: http://rapidshare.de/files/26210485/FlashOriginell.bin.html

Anyone that could help me out please?


// Flawz

[stevorob]

Post a screen of your fuse data from ATI Tool

[klen_ghost]

post youre bios on this site not on some outside link
if you post it here they will be helping you faster.
and it will be easyer if you say if it is an agp or pci-e card

[Flawz]

Here u go, fast reply damn :O

AGP card, 8x And Sapphire & R480 chip

[stevorob]

Nah, don't really need to post the BIOS... dolf has already made a number of modded BIOSes for each card.

What I really need is a screen shot of ATI Tool fuses, and whether the card is AGP or PCIE, and what core is present.


Hold Shift and click on settings in ATI Tool, and scroll down to the Fuses and post a screenshot of it. Make sure you include a screen shot of the core as well.

[klen_ghost]

there is that thing for that you receive an e-mail when some one post on te same toppic ;)

[Flawz]

I posted image of everything.

Sapphire ATI Radeon x800GTO AGP 8x R480 Chip

Fuses:

[klen_ghost]

haha i think you better can get of youre cooler of the card
clean the cooling paste on the core .. if you have new.
there you can see which core you have
i thought i had an r480 as wel but the programs where lying i have an r430 core
i checked it cause the overclock was so low if you compare it to others

[stevorob]

I posted image of everything.

Sapphire ATI Radeon x800GTO 8x R480 Chip

Fuses:


Here is the modified BIOS and the instructions to flash. Let us know how it goes.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=119795&postcount=2061

EDIT: Damn, lots of R480 AGP showing up. Anyone wanna trade :P

[Flawz]

According to RabiT it sais: Radeon x800/x850 Series (r423) though, wich is weird. but ATI tool sais R480

[Flawz]

And RivaTUner sais:

$0900000000 Graphics core : R480 (12pp)

[klen_ghost]

got the same thing .. x800gto fireblade .. atitool and rivatuner say r480 core
rabit says r423 and on the core stands r430
so i believe the last thing

[Flawz]

so wich is it? lol

[klen_ghost]

mine is r430
this afternoon i took of the cooler of the card , clean'd the cooling paste from the core
and voila r430 . ( looks to me that sapphire is cheating ) .
cause the programs see it as an r480 :S..

[Flawz]

http://www.hardavenue.com/reviews/sapphirex800gto_1l.jpg

That's my card, yours too? if so, i dont have to open everything :P

[Flawz]

Hum, can't i just try both then? r230 one first or can something really serious happen to my card?

[klen_ghost]

no mine is pci-e but here is a pic of it
http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/fireblade1-b.jpg

for the rest pretty much the same

[klen_ghost]

Hum, can't i just try both then? r230 one first or can something really serious happen to my card?

i think you mean R 430

[Flawz]

oh, yes ^.^ sorry

[klen_ghost]

;) everyone makes mistakes .. ( its humanly )
so me and my brother are going to try the 16 pipe bios.
we will inform you. what and how.
(what are youre max clock's flawz ? .. mine are 423 core .. 555 mem )

[Flawz]

549 Mem, started getting artifacts at 550+ Havnt tried maxing out the Core, but 445, why?

[bzoli34]

hi all i no speak englis
http://www.gecube.com/products-detail.php?prod_cat_pid=9&prod_cat_id=134&prod_id=22856

unlock 16pip??
img]http://img.techpowerup.org/060718/atitool862.jpg[/img]

[Flawz]

you must have the F like this:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/127/images/fuses.gif

[bzoli34]

i no know paste
0X554F:R430,Bus1,Dev:0

Device ID 554F
Host Interface AGP
Default GPU Clock 400.00Mhz
Default Mem Clock 350.00Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES_ 0XFFFFDFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0XA61
GB_PIPE SELECT 0XAD46

[woodhead]

It's pretty simple to do really... My advice is don't be scared, be confident that you can do it, and you'll do it right. As long as you follow the command line right, you can't mess up.

If you do mess it up, I think you can reflash the original BIOS back onto the card. Make sure you keep a copy on the boot disc that you make to do the modded flash. You can make a copy of your BIOS through ATI Tool. Its called Dump BIOS. Under miscellaneous I think.

Thanks for help, but i made that stuff to go back so i have now again only 12 pp open. I tested 3dmark03 with 16pp and i get only about 90 points more and game tests were going even more bad than before, but feature tests were going good and i get even +1000 Mtexels/s more than before. With Atitools artifact test i tested my system for a 30 minutes and i started to get much of artifacts and triXX says that my VPU temp have gone even 110ºc and board temp gone about 80ºc.

[Flawz]

i no know paste
0X554F:R430,Bus1,Dev:0

Device ID 554F
Host Interface AGP
Default GPU Clock 400.00Mhz
Default Mem Clock 350.00Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES_ 0XFFFFDFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0XA61
GB_PIPE SELECT 0XAD46

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES_ 0XFFFFDFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
They are not an F, meaning you cant open pipes

[bzoli34]

thenks

[error_f0rce]

Oh, thanks a lot!:D
hey, those benchmarks are gonna take a little longer than I thought... for some reason 3DMark keep crapping out on 4x.... i'll repost later tonight, hang tight. :eek:

[error_f0rce]

Lehoka, finally got it working:
3DMark05 8x AGP stock clocks w/ 16 pipes: 5137
3DMark05 4x AGP stock clocks w/ 16 pipes: 5123

I used ATi Catalyst to make the changes, booted my computer. ATi Catalyst reported 4x AGP as did 3DMark05 for the second test. I did not however try disabling it directly from the BIOS, don't think that should matter though unless both programs are lying.

So there ya go, don't waste your money :D

[klen_ghost]

hey any one know where dis thing is for ?
http://img.techpowerup.org/060719/connector.jpg
thnx

[Over_Doser]

Hi to allz!
I've got a Sapphire X800GTO with 128Mb(hynix 2,8ns) onboard (blue PCB), the fuses seem to be ok http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledvy6.jpg

maybe it was discussed, but i don't know how to unlock the card, i can't find a suitable BIOS dump and can't modify mine as well, can someone help me?

[zipo]

thx STEVOROB for the reply (club3d x800rx)

ok i have another card....

can anyone please let me know if i have allready or if i can get extra pipes (16) with the following card

...thx

=======================
Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO2 256-mb PCI-E

Use DEV
0x5d4f:R480, bus:5,dev:0

deviceID = 5d4f
chipname = r480
host interface = pci-e
catalystversion = 5.8
mem size = 256 mb
mem type = ddr3
mem bus width = 256 bit
active pipelines = 16
default gpu clk = 400.00 mhz
default mem clk = 490.00 mhz
cfg die fuses = 0xffffffff
cfg sub fuses = 0xffffff9f
cfg rom fuses = 0x260
gb pipe select = 0x3fe4

=======================

i also have a Sapphire X700 256 Agp, is there any hope for this card also?

thx

[klen_ghost]

youre gto2 has all 16 pipes enabled. no extra pipes to unlock there
but it can be flashed to a x850 xt

[Flawz]

i got my 16 pipes opened now, works fine

[Flawz]

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/929/ypy4.png

Settings: Core = 500 \ Memory = 545

3977 12 Pipelines 3DMark 05
9600 12 Pipelines 3DMark 03

4886 16 Pipelines 3DMark 05
10958 16 Pipelines 3DMark 03

Thank you for all your help

[klen_ghost]

i've got a gto fireblade .. to bad it has an r430 core
but my 4 pipes can be unlocked :)
so soon i've got a gto fireblade 16 pp :D

[Flawz]

my core was r480, not like yours

[dolf]

Flaws, you can flash that overclocked BIOS to 500/500MHz.

[Flawz]

what do u mean?

[Flawz]

do you want me to re-flash again? since that file u gave me worked just fine, but is it set to be 400\490 ? cause i was wondering why it didnt change inside the settings

[Over_Doser]

dolf,
please take a look, maybe you can edit the BIOS for me

[dolf]

Over_Doser,
Here you are 16 pipe BIOS. I hope that you know how to flash but:

Prepare boot floppy disk with your original BIOS (max. 8 symbols), 16 piped BIOS (not in archive) and atiflash.

Use (in DOS mode): atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 x80gto16.bin

Success

[Over_Doser]

//2208, big thanks dolf! but I have done it by mysefl, I've used a hex editor HxDen, and managed to unlock the card, but one thing still bothers me - I didn't get any substantial performance boost :(, maybe the slow memory is the bottleneck or maybe the size, I've only got 128 Mb, what do You say? maybe i should reinstall my drivers? currently i'm using catalyst 6.6

[dolf]

I hope that you open the moded BIOS with RaBit and seve it before to flash. If you see 16 pipes after the mod they should be 16. Even 128MB you have to notice some increasing of the performance up to 10-15%. If not probably you didn't unlock :confused: . If you have expected 25% performance more it won't.

[Over_Doser]

//2210, dolf
of course i did open it with rabit, the pipes seem to be ok, I've reinstalled my OS and the drivers suite, now I have noticed some performance gaining in games :) and about 900 marks in futuremark 2003, now the score is about 10K, it's a pity that my card doesn't overclock at all, even with some decent cooling

[dolf]

//2210, dolf
of course i did open it with rabit, the pipes seem to be ok, I've reinstalled my OS and the drivers suite, now I have noticed some performance gaining in games :) and about 900 marks in futuremark 2003, now the score is about 10K, it's a pity that my card doesn't overclock at all, even with some decent cooling

That is typical for R430 and the overclock is almost independent from the cooling. But you are lucky to have 16 working pipes. 10K in 3DMark03 is very good result for that card with 128MB. That 2.8ns memory should be good overclocker and instead 350MHz you could reach 380-390MHz.

[klen_ghost]

well i'll posting my bios so you can see what and how .. about the voltages
maybe it is that , that causes al of this crappy oc'ing
thanx .. brother made a new bios for me

[Over_Doser]

That is typical for R430 and the overclock is almost independent from the cooling. But you are lucky to have 16 working pipes. 10K in 3DMark03 is very good result for that card with 128MB. That 2.8ns memory should be good overclocker and instead 350MHz you could reach 380-390MHz.

Well it's not bad at all, considering that i've payed only 100$ for it :cool:
Regarding the memory, its overclocking potential is very poor, maximum I can get without artifacts is about (370)740 Mhz, well by default it works at its maximum 2,8ns DDR1 - U don't get to much from it even if it's hynix :ohwell:

[Volvobrute]

Lucky you to have R480. It means that you can overclock it (deppending on Vcore) to 500-600MHz. Flash with the moded BIOS "bios16.bin" to unlock the pipes and test for max. core/memory with ATITool.
If you can, please show me a picture of your card in order to prepare Automated flash Utility and to include the card in the flash instructions file. Please report your max. core and memory overclock after flashing to 16 pipes.

Use atiflash under DOS with the following command line:
atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin

Success


Is this bios for 2.0 ns memory?

[klen_ghost]

is my card hard moddable ?
i mean .. the holes for the pci-e power connector ar on the card but the thing to plug the cabble into arent
so i thought , dind a defective pci-e card with that power connector , get that power connector of it and then put it onto my own card. but is that ok or will i make my own card go like .. poeff .. and then it all smell's burned inside :P

[ch1000_man]

Hi pips, first post here.

I've got a Powercolor X800GTO 256MB PCI-E which has an R430 core as displayed on ATI tool. I tried overclocking it but it would not go past 415Mhz on the core meaning it's really an R430. Anyway, I also want to unlock the extra pipelines on this VC, problem is ATI Tool (0.24) does not show the fuses and the other required info to know if the VC could be unlockable or not. GPU temps and fan speed also can't be seen on ATI Tool... Can somebody please help me out...

[klen_ghost]

hold down shift before pressing on the settings key ;)
that's wat you got to do .. hold it when you press the settings key . and the fuse data wil be there

[ch1000_man]

Hey thanks, I see them now :)

Anyway here are my fuse info:
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES:0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUNSTRATE_FUSES:0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES:0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT:0x227A4

So by looking at those values, can anyone tell me if mine can be unlocked :) If so, can somebody help me do a bios flash. I haven't done one ever since and it would be my first if I decide to do it to my VC now.

[stevorob]

Unfortunately you can't unlock your last 4 pipes. Sorry.

[ch1000_man]

Dang, and I here I am thinking I wouldn't need an upgrade... Well then now that that's out, is there anything I can do so as I can see the GPU temps and fan speed on ATI Tool?

[stevorob]

Are you using ATI Tool .25?

For me, 25 doesnt have the fan control and temp monitor on my x800gto, so I reverted back to .24

Try that and see if it works.

[ch1000_man]

I was using ATI Tool 0.25 before but then I couldn't see the temps and fan speed so I reverted to 0.24 but still no temps and fan speed :(

[Tigas]

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/134/atitoolxs7.jpg

PCI-Ex

hope for some help on unlocking the pipes or even put the ram on full availabilty.

cheers! :toast:

edit: btw, Hynix mems ;)

[dolf]

Your card couldn't be unlocked to 16 pipes. About the memory size 3DMark has data base with different cards which doesn't include your 128MB model (all GTO's) are recognized like 256MB. The same happened with my 9800XT 128MB ;) .

[Tigas]

Your card couldn't be unlocked to 16 pipes. About the memory size 3DMark has data base with different cards which doesn't include your 128MB model (all GTO's) are recognized like 256MB. The same happened with my 9800XT 128MB ;) .


out of luck then :\ oh well.. hope for an upgrade

[duceduc]

Hi guys. I've just got a sapphire x800 gto card and was reading up on unlocking it. Here is a screenshot of what the ati tools .25 bata 14 says. Is this card unlockable? The box says 12 PixelPipelines; however, atitool says 16. I am confuse. Has this card been unlocked already?

What makes it more mind bogging is that when I use the atitool .24 stable version the four lines doesn't show up to see if this card can be unlock. Only the beta version 14 sees it.

[dolf]

Hi guys. I've just got a sapphire x800 gto card and was reading up on unlocking it. Here is a screenshot of what the ati tools .25 bata 14 says. Is this card unlockable? The box says 12 PixelPipelines; however, atitool says 16. I am confuse. Has this card been unlocked already?

What makes it more mind bogging is that when I use the atitool .24 stable version the four lines doesn't show up to see if this card can be unlock. Only the beta version 14 sees it.

It should be with 16 pipes already.

[capfelix]

Hi Guru,

Recently I got myself an X800GTO 128MB graphics card and I wonder if this card can be upgraded from existing 12 pipelines to full 16 pipelines.

Attached is ATITool details and VGA BIOS dump binary file (done with ATITool) for your reference.

Thanks!

http://img.techpowerup.org/060724/Unika R420 ATITool.jpg

[stevorob]

Hi Guru,

Recently I got myself an X800GTO 128MB graphics card and I wonder if this card can be upgraded from existing 12 pipelines to full 16 pipelines.

Attached is ATITool details and VGA BIOS dump binary file (done with ATITool) for your reference.

Thanks!



Unfortunately you're card can't be unlocked. I'm not sure how well you can overclock your core either.

[FNK_Drake]

Ok.. so i want to unlock 16 pipes on my video card... so, can you guys help?.. heres my info:

Connect3d X850 Pro AGP

http://img.techpowerup.org/060725/Ati.jpg



I have already followed the steps in the Sticky post... but i dont know hwo to flash the bios.. I have the modded bios made tho...

[dolf]

Ok.. so i want to unlock 16 pipes on my video card... so, can you guys help?.. heres my info:

Connect3d X850 Pro AGP

http://img.techpowerup.org/060725/Ati.jpg



I have already followed the steps in the Sticky post... but i dont know hwo to flash the bios.. I have the modded bios made tho...

In this case you need that: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=738578 ;)

Follow the instructions and you will have 16 pipes :D .

[sloop]

ASUS X850PRO 508/10PCIEX VIVO 12pipe to 16pipe?

[stevorob]

ASUS X850PRO 508/10PCIEX VIVO 12pipe to 16pipe?

Unfortunately no. Sorry :(

[sloop]

Unfortunately no. Sorry :(
Got.it... OC only 565/1210 capable...

[joinmeindeath417]

so yeahhhhh i did what you told me to...now what am i able to do with my videocard if anyone would like to help me :)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Despairfactors/th_data.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Despairfactors/data.jpg)

[joinmeindeath417]

am i able to do anything i have an R423 chip :-\

[stevorob]

Nothing can be done with that card unless if overclocks good. No unlock for you unfortunately :(.

Sorry.

[Das_Capitolin]

Here is my brand new X800GT, with a virgin ATI fuses data:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/Das_Capitolin/Archive/X800GT.png

Please let me know what you think I could do with the pipelines on this one... thank you (again)!

[stevorob]

Here is my brand new X800GT, with a virgin ATI fuses data:

Please let me know what you think I could do with the pipelines on this one... thank you (again)!

Sorry, not unlockable.

What kind of overclocks do you get though?

[joinmeindeath417]

but i read somewhere that the powercolor x800gtos dont read right, i dont know how high it overclocks i'll find out but im still really new to all this thanks !

[FNK_Drake]

In this case you need that: http://www.savefile.com/projects.php?pid=738578 ;)

Follow the instructions and you will have 16 pipes :D .


Well i did all that... and now it shows that i have 16 pipes... but i cant run any games... so theres somethign wrong... any ideas what it could be?... i gotta goto sleep, work tommrow.. but ill try and take a closer look tommrow.. any ideas would be apreciated.. thanks

[dolf]

Well i did all that... and now it shows that i have 16 pipes... but i cant run any games... so theres somethign wrong... any ideas what it could be?... i gotta goto sleep, work tommrow.. but ill try and take a closer look tommrow.. any ideas would be apreciated.. thanks

"i cant run any games" what does it mean?
Did you reinstall the drivers?
It is possible to have bad pipe!

[FNK_Drake]

"i cant run any games" what does it mean?
Did you reinstall the drivers?
It is possible to have bad pipe!

Duh..drivers... ill hafta do that... when i get home from work... thanks. :D

[diverfish]

x800 gto fireblade.

is it unlockable?

http://img.techpowerup.org/060726/fuses218.jpg

:wtf:

[stevorob]

Unfortunately no, but you have the R480 core, so you should be able to get some nice overclocks out of it.

[diverfish]

:(

570/621.

[dolf]

Fireblade has limited power supply circuit and probably the core has lower Vcore than X850XT/PE which Vcore is 1.4V. Measure it and if needed Vmod the card to get 600 and more MHz.

[F430]

what I need to do for 12 16 pipelines???

[joinmeindeath417]

hey questionsss

1. i have a r423 chip on my x800gto
2.its a power color
3. i have an arctic cooler rev 5 on it
4...how come i cant go over
425- core and 501 memory without it locking up in benchmark :(

can anyone help me :\ i even tried bios flashing worked but still didnt unlock pipes >:0