X800 fuses data for unlocking

[W1zzard]

Download and install ATITool (http://atitool.techpowerup.com)
Hold down the shift key and click on "settings"
Now scroll to the bottom of the list, you should see four new values listed. (The screenshot here is from an X850 XT PE)


http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/127/images/fuses.gif

Post yours here and include information like model and number of active pipelines.

Especially interesting would be data from before bridging laser cut and after.

[SPHERE]

9700 pro 8/4 pipes

illl post my x850 later :)

[W1zzard]

this is only for x800 series :) old cards dont have fuses

[Compuweb]

I've attached my ATITool results for my Powercolor X850PRO.

The default clock speeds are 507 CPU / 520 MEM.
I've overclocked successfully to 590 CPU / 630 MEM.

Can the pipes be modified from 12 to 16 with my Powercolor X850PRO PCIE video card?

[SPHERE]

^doesnt look like it :(

this is only for x800 series :) old cards dont have fusesnot even the x700s?

[Don__1]

Sapphire X800 Hybrid VIVO NON Pro AGP 12pipes.
X800 Pro R430 PCIx GPU on an AGP board.

[Megatron]

http://www.doomiii.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Fuses.jpg

powercolor x800gt gddr3 256Mb 2ns chips, apparently r480 though I havent checked yet.

[65tweet]

The first pic is an AGP x850 pro vivo with original bios. The second is the same card flashed to 16 pipes then back to pro (keeping the pipes). No hard mod needed. http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=719&stc=1
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=720&stc=1

How do you post the pic's on the reply?

EDIT
I get it now, they show up after you post. :o

[Shyska]

Sapphire X800GT GDDR3 256RAM
laser cut mod to 12 pipes.

edit-> chip R423 (pics are available)

[djbbenn]

Heres mine...X800Pro Vivo AGP.

-Dan

[dolf]

Here it is my X800XT PE AGP result with 16 pipes.

W1zzard I have sent you a mail but did you receive it?

Shyska's result is interesting because on R423 the fuse is applied only for the last quad. It is another example for getting 12 pipes with connection the right bridge but no success with last quad (even sometimes not laser cutted) ;) This comes probably to show that 3th quad were disabled after creation of the card with just laser cut but the 4th quad were disabled after testing of the core with additional fusing :confused: .

[WillyWacker]

Hi,

my Card:
Sapphire X800Pro ViVo PCIe
Picture Front: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/front.JPG)
Picture Back : klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/back.JPG)
Picture Naked: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/naked.jpg)
Picture Settings: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/settings.jpg)

The bridge I soldered and then I tried these Bios:
1.ATI X800 XT (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: recognized X800 SE / 12pipes
2.Sapphire X800 XT (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: recognized X800 SE / 12pipes
3.ATI X800 Pro VIVO 16P (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: no screen on boot

What I can do for 16 Pipes ???
I here already read everything, up to now without success.
Yes, and my English is also shits :( Sorry..
I come from Germany

Please Help me :o

WillyWacker

[VulkanBros]

Manufacturer :MSI
Model :RX800SE TD256
Device ID :4A4A
Chip Name :R420
Host Interface :AGP
Cat. Version :5.8
Mem. Size :256 MB
Mem. Type : DDR3 ( Samsung 419 - K4J5532QF-GC20 )
Mem. Bus Width :256 Bit
Active Pipelines :8
Default GPU Clock :425 Mhz
Default Mem Clock :400 Mhz


And a little pray for you W1zzard ... cant you make a build-in report tool in ATItool...so that it is possible to make a config overview for your grahpics card ??

[Chefkoch81]

X800GT (Club3d X800RX)

[SPHERE]

Heres mine...X800Pro Vivo AGP.

-Danunlockable :)

Hi,

my Card:
Sapphire X800Pro ViVo PCIe
Picture Front: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/front.JPG)
Picture Back : klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/back.JPG)
Picture Naked: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/naked.jpg)
Picture Settings: klick (http://www.christiansen.de/graka/settings.jpg)

The bridge I soldered and then I tried these Bios:
1.ATI X800 XT (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: recognized X800 SE / 12pipes
2.Sapphire X800 XT (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: recognized X800 SE / 12pipes
3.ATI X800 Pro VIVO 16P (PCI-E) 256 MB --> result: no screen on boot

What I can do for 16 Pipes ???
I here already read everything, up to now without success.
Yes, and my English is also shits :( Sorry..
I come from Germany

Please Help me :o

WillyWacker
try using the moded flashrom utility?

[dolf]

Don't waste your time ;)

[SPHERE]

Don't waste your time ;)dont waste our time with posts like that...

[OldSpice]

My X800 from Visiontek Xtasy - R430 core

Matches up to the x800pro Hybrid posted by Don__1 accept the cores are different as well as the Config_Rom_Fuses part, he has A60, i have A61..

[Don__1]

Hell, sorry. My card is actually a R430. Can't think why I posted 423 on the original post sorry. And the card is a non Pro plain X800. It uses a core that is marked as X800 Pro PCIx.

[WillyWacker]

unlockable :)


try using the moded flashrom utility?

yes.. i have

[tales]

Hi, I must say that I'm extremely awestruck by one's genius to comeout with this softmod.

Anyway, I'm planning to get a new graphics card, and after seeing this, I'm quite interested in getting an X800 GTO². The only main prob is that I can't really seem to find it anywhere.

Can all R480 core work? Or you can only tell after running the utility tools to find out if the marked numbers fit? Is there a certain way to tell if it can be modded before buying the card? Thanks in advance!

[SPHERE]

gt02s are suposed to be sold as modable cards as far as i know :)

[freddymc]

Powercolor x800 pro, 12 pipes.

[Marl76lopes]

MSI X800SE 256MB, this is what apeares --»

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8892/atitool3ob.jpg

But I Have bridging the lazer cut and flashed other bios, but still 8 pipelines.
The lazer cut is still bridged.

[dolf]

With this registry configuration you should have 12 pipes. Try to use modified flashrom and PRO BIOS.

[z1]

http://xxdownloadsxx.serverbox.org/zero/temp/R420.jpg

Sapphire X800 PRO, Non-Vivo, R420, 12 pipes, AGP, 256MB Samsung GC20, blue pcb.
Oced to 540 core/560 mem, stock bios


Would really like to see 16 pipes :cool:
I can solder bridges if you guys figure this out.

[SPHERE]

^ i think you are pwned dude :( but its still worth a shot :)

[Marl76lopes]

With this registry configuration you should have 12 pipes. Try to use modified flashrom and PRO BIOS.

I have tried everything but still no luck...give an idea of what i should do.

[Anthony2002]

Gecube x800 AGP 128mb DDR1 (400/700) (R430)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x6E48

I hope this will be helpfull....

[AndreyPopov]

more statistics can be found here
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129374

[SPHERE]

Gecube x800 AGP 128mb DDR1 (400/700) (R430)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x6E48

I hope this will be helpfull....may be unlockable to 16 pipes :)

[Andi64]

I don't think so. Substrate Fuses ends with E. It must be an F, or not?
R430 and R480 PCIe are very hard to mod, even imposible.

[Clutch]

connect3D X800GTO

Chip name = R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xEFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x2724


Can I mod this Card to X850XT or X800 XL or X800XT???


Tim

[dolf]

I think YES. About X850XT, X800XL and so on I have no idea. If you haven't modded it yet to 16 pipe GTO maybe it is better to do it ;)
See also that: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127/3

[SPHERE]

connect3D X800GTO

Chip name = R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES = 0xEFF7FFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES = 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES = 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT = 0x2724


Can I mod this Card to X850XT or X800 XL or X800XT???


Tim

look at the core to be shure of the core name and report back :) (looks modable)

[peta01]

Hi all, my card is X800np, R430, 256MB DDR3 1,6ns, VIVO, 12 active pipes

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

Any chance on pipe unlocking?

[SPHERE]

Hi all, my card is X800np, R430, 256MB DDR3 1,6ns, VIVO, 12 active pipes

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

Any chance on pipe unlocking?
doesn't look like it :( but if you want you should ba able to flash to a x800xl anyway :)

[tamalero]

Does this only apply to the PCIe version? or does it work with the AGP version of the same model?

[SPHERE]

^this reads from pcie and agp x800's :)

[tamalero]

^this reads from pcie and agp x800's :)

ok thanks!
just wondering because I found some GTO^2 for sell in a shop in my country, and Im saving to buy them.
and considering the normal X850's PE are over 700 US over here, an dthe GTO^2 is just 260 US, its a DEAL if I can flash it to 16 pipelines :P

[gmpowerup]

I have a Sapphire X800GT PCI-e Samsung 2.0 R423 8 pipelines

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x19940

any chance to flash to GTO (bios not found) to 12 pipelines or XT (better powercolor i think for ram timing) to 16 pipelines? I hope.... :)

Thanks a lot!

[SPHERE]

ok thanks!
just wondering because I found some GTO^2 for sell in a shop in my country, and Im saving to buy them.
and considering the normal X850's PE are over 700 US over here, an dthe GTO^2 is just 260 US, its a DEAL if I can flash it to 16 pipelines :P

indeed :)

[SPHERE]

I have a Sapphire X800GT PCI-e Samsung 2.0 R423 8 pipelines

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF39FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFF61D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x862
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x19940

any chance to flash to GTO (bios not found) to 12 pipelines or XT (better powercolor i think for ram timing) to 16 pipelines? I hope.... :)

Thanks a lot!
what core do you have (take off the cooler to see) [programs will lie about the core name btw]

[djbbenn]

X800GT's are the R423.

-Dan

[SPHERE]

X800GT's are the R423.

-Dan
no they are r423 and r480 ;)

[djbbenn]

GTO's are r423 and r480... Must be the same then for the GT. :ohwell:

-Dan

[SPHERE]

GTO's are r423 and r480... Must be the same then. :ohwell:

-Dan
gtos are r480 and r430 :)

gto2s are r480 :)

[djbbenn]

Well this (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/) must be wrong then.

-Dan

[SPHERE]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2512 it seems we are both right :)

[djbbenn]

Lol...I can settle for that. ;) When you said it before I was like, thats not what I read. Went back and checked...and saw that.

That GPU database is like one of my bibles. :toast:

-Dan

[gmpowerup]

I am not able to read directly my model...

it's written on the chip:

215RBMAGA12F
GF8743.1.
0447AA


Is it enough to know which model is?

Thanks...

[djbbenn]

I believe that is a R423, because I think they are the cores that don't say what they are directly. Well I'v seen lots of pictures of R423's and not many of them said R423. :rolleyes:

-Dan

[gmpowerup]

If it's a 423 i could flash directly to a x800XT or i have to do anything else to unlock pipelines?

Am i OT if i ask what's laser bridge or something like this?

[SPHERE]

Lol...I can settle for that. ;) When you said it before I was like, thats not what I read. Went back and checked...and saw that.

That GPU database is like one of my bibles. :toast:

-Dan
ive made a few corrections to that database over the few months ive been here lol do you wanna pm w1zz or should i?

btw thx w1zz for makin that database its awesome :P

I am not able to read directly my model...

it's written on the chip:

215RBMAGA12F
GF8743.1.
0447AA


Is it enough to know which model is?

Thanks... upload your bios and ill tell you :)

[djbbenn]

I can talk to him tomorrow. I always talking to him.

-Dan

[Clutch]

Woohoo thanks for the Help!!!!
I flashed my 3D connect X800GTO with the modified X800 GTO² BIOS and now my GTO have 16 Pipes.

:rockout:

[SPHERE]

Woohoo thanks for the Help!!!!
I flashed my 3D connect X800GTO with the modified X800 GTO² BIOS and now my GTO have 16 Pipes.

:rockout:
did you find out for shure what core it has? (look at the chip it's self :))

[Clutch]

shit at Benchmarks i have problems with Errors.

So i flash the Card with a X800XT BIOS (PowerColor X800 XT (PCI-E) 256 MB with 500 / 500 Samsung 2.0) and now it works perfect

[nick255]

hi just thought ild add, i also have a connect 3d gto, it appears to have a r423 core, and had the following serials on the core:

215RBJAGA12F
GG3877.1
0506SS

Ive also manage to unlock the other pipes successfully using that powercolor x800 xt bios too and i dont appear to have any artifacts.

Before i got about 4500 points on 3d mark 05 with everything at stock speeds and post unlocking i get about 5000 points with core and memory at stock speeds.

[tamalero]

Hey guys, another question.
Every bios to flash to transform this to a X850 with 16 pipelines, changes betwen brands?

Example, a Powercolor must be flashed with a diferent BIOS than a Sapphire?
or they're all equal ?
or depends on the memory modules and other stuff?

[rampage2]

Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GTO(400MHz) 256Mb DDR(490MHz) 256-Bit VGA/Tv-Out/DVI PCI Express Video Card
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=008119&cid=999.243

I'm just wondering if this card will be able to unlock to the x850 thingy with the 16 pipelines.

please help, thx :)

[SPHERE]

Hey guys, another question.
Every bios to flash to transform this to a X850 with 16 pipelines, changes betwen brands?

Example, a Powercolor must be flashed with a diferent BIOS than a Sapphire?
or they're all equal ?
or depends on the memory modules and other stuff?you aren't makeing any sence :confused: but i think i know what you are asking :)

you can use diferent brand bioses on diferent cards most of the time as long as they are the same model :)

Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GTO(400MHz) 256Mb DDR(490MHz) 256-Bit VGA/Tv-Out/DVI PCI Express Video Card
http://canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=008119&cid=999.243

I'm just wondering if this card will be able to unlock to the x850 thingy with the 16 pipelines.

please help, thx :)
it might help if you did what it tells in the first post of this thread :)

[tamalero]

you aren't makeing any sence :confused: but i think i know what you are asking :)

you can use diferent brand bioses on diferent cards most of the time as long as they are the same model :)


it might help if you did what it tells in the first post of this thread :)

sorry man but seems rarely, the post I did was utterly transformed into something else, like it was "changed" by a translator.

What I was triying to tell you is..
Every model needs a bios?
or Every BRAND needs its own kind of bioses?

I was wondering because I'm worried that flashing ( example ) a X800 GTO2 of Sapphire with a X850PE bios from Powercolor ( Ie, other completely diferent brand )

and also this GTO Im about to get is even announced on the website to be "fully modeable with all software needed to unlock the 16 pipelines"
so that called my attention, thats why I did some research and found this forum.
I hope I make sense now. and I seriusly hope whatever made my first post that f*cked up, to dont modify my reply again :P

[SPHERE]

sorry man but seems rarely, the post I did was utterly transformed into something else, like it was "changed" by a translator.

What I was triying to tell you is..
Every model needs a bios?
or Every BRAND needs its own kind of bioses?

I was wondering because I'm worried that flashing ( example ) a X800 GTO2 of Sapphire with a X850PE bios from Powercolor ( Ie, other completely diferent brand )

and also this GTO Im about to get is even announced on the website to be "fully modeable with all software needed to unlock the 16 pipelines"
so that called my attention, thats why I did some research and found this forum.
I hope I make sense now. and I seriusly hope whatever made my first post that f*cked up, to dont modify my reply again :P
:)

diferent models need diferent bioses (se/pro/np/gt/gto/xt/xl/xtpe)
diferent makers can use the same bios and often do (the diferent makers usaly follow a reference design which usaly means compatability with diferent makers bioses)

in short yes you should have no trouble at all using a powercolor bios on a sapphire card :)

btw the gto2 is the one that unlocks not the gto (only some gtos unlock)

[Megatron]

Ive heard that u should stick to using vivo bios with vivo cards and same memory type (e.g. GDDR3 /= DDR1).

[djbbenn]

If you don't use a Vivo bios on a Vivo card, you simply loose the Vivio features. But with respect to memory, yes you have to use the same type of mem. A card with GDDR3 needs a bios with GDDR3. But most of the time you can't get a bios that will work on a card with the wrong type of mem. But there are some cases that it might happen, like the 9800's.

-Dan

[tamalero]

:)

diferent models need diferent bioses (se/pro/np/gt/gto/xt/xl/xtpe)
diferent makers can use the same bios and often do (the diferent makers usaly follow a reference design which usaly means compatability with diferent makers bioses)

in short yes you should have no trouble at all using a powercolor bios on a sapphire card :)

btw the gto2 is the one that unlocks not the gto (only some gtos unlock)
its a GTO^2 card
but I Got lazy and wrote it as just "GTO" :P

[Megatron]

If you don't use a Vivo bios on a Vivo card, you simply loose the Vivio features.
-Dan
Thats funny cause Ive read several places on this forum where Wizzard has recommended that u use RaBit to uncheck the vivo features before u use the bios.;)

[SPHERE]

Thats funny cause Ive read several places on this forum where Wizzard has recommended that u use RaBit to uncheck the vivo features before u use the bios.;)thats probibly cause the card it was being flashed to was a nonvovo card :)

btw if you flash a vivo bios to a non vivo card it will give you a error message in windows :) (fyi)

[djbbenn]

If you flash a card with no Vivo supporting bios, you will get an unknow decive in windows too. And like sean said, you'll get a error is its the other way around. So its good to uncheck it if the card does not have Vivo.;)

-Dan

[scytheblades]

this is my sapphire x800 gt with currently 8 active pps.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1803/atitoolscreenshot8ee.th.png (http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitoolscreenshot8ee.png)

can i flash bios or something to increase the pps?

[SPHERE]

this is my sapphire x800 gt with currently 8 active pps.

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/1803/atitoolscreenshot8ee.th.png (http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitoolscreenshot8ee.png)

can i flash bios or something to increase the pps?
doesnt look like you will be able to get all 16 :( but you can try for 12 :)

what core do you have? (you need to look at the core its self cause programs can lie ;))

[mdmitriy]

Where can I get bios to unlock 4pipes on Sapphire 800GT 128 Mb (DDR1). Chip - X800SE (R423). Lasercut is connected.
I have only bios for 256 Mb X800, X800 Pro, X800 XT but for DDR3 and 256 Mb and crash system on flashing.
I think that bios from Sapphire X800 GTO or GTO2 128 Mb (DDR1) unlock 4 pipes, but I cannot find it.

e-mail: mdadmitriy@mail.ru

[scytheblades]

doesnt look like you will be able to get all 16 :( but you can try for 12 :)

what core do you have? (you need to look at the core its self cause programs can lie ;))

so do you mean that I have to take the cooler off the vid card?

[SPHERE]

so do you mean that I have to take the cooler off the vid card?
Yes :)

be shure to reaply the thermal grease though :)

Where can I get bios to unlock 4pipes on Sapphire 800GT 128 Mb (DDR1). Chip - X800SE (R423). Lasercut is connected.
I have only bios for 256 Mb X800, X800 Pro, X800 XT but for DDR3 and 256 Mb and crash system on flashing.
I think that bios from Sapphire X800 GTO or GTO2 128 Mb (DDR1) unlock 4 pipes, but I cannot find it.

e-mail: mdadmitriy@mail.ru
use the moded flashrom and your x800xt bios :) (be shure that bios is a pcie bios though)

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

[mdmitriy]

Yes :)

be shure to reaply the thermal grease though :)


use the moded flashrom and your x800xt bios :) (be shure that bios is a pcie bios though)

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

I have moded flashrom.
Im needed 128 Mb (DDR1) bios from X800 or X800 pro or X800GTO (not GT)

[scytheblades]

Yes :)

be shure to reaply the thermal grease though :)

Ok! Sounds good, now do go find some thermal grease.....


Just out of curiosity, can i just flash the BIOS with the x800XT bios and see if it works??? If it is the wrong core, what will happen? Lol I don't have any thermal grease.....

[SPHERE]

Ok! Sounds good, now do go find some thermal grease.....


Just out of curiosity, can i just flash the BIOS with the x800XT bios and see if it works??? If it is the wrong core, what will happen? Lol I don't have any thermal grease.....if its the wrong core you could fry the card ;) (ive done it first hand so dont think im kidding ;))

[SPHERE]

I have moded flashrom.
Im needed 128 Mb (DDR1) bios from X800 or X800 pro or X800GTO (not GT)
ill tell you how to make that bios into a 16 pipe bios :)

what core is it?

[mdmitriy]

Core - R423 (X800SE), 128Mb DDR1 2,8ns (Samsung)

[SPHERE]

Core - R423 (X800SE), 128Mb DDR1 2,8ns (Samsung) did you find that out by looking at the core its self or from a program?

btw do you have a pci vid card cause to make this work we are gonna have to bad flash your card with a ddr3 bios temporarly :) lol

[z1]

Hi
I posted my fuse data back on page 3. I'm wondering if anything has changed since then with the cards unlockability. If there's any chance at all I'll give it a shot. If not, let me know. Thanks.

Sapphire X800 PRO, Non-Vivo, R420, 12 pipes, AGP, 256MB Samsung GC20

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF37FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF1E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x20
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4

[GVH]

Have read the modding guide and it saying that its only applicable for the sapphire card, but my connect card has the same settings for the fuses, but the chip is R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF7FFFF
CONDIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9F

does this mean its moddable?

Cheers

[scytheblades]

Ok, i went and bought a new cooler and some thermal paste. The core is a R423.... I put the grease and the cooler on. So now what?

[slaesche]

http://www.anthonylauzon.net/tmp/atitool.png

Card: Sapphire x800GTO
Piplelines Unlocked: 12
Core: R480

I am interested in knowing if I can get 16 unlocked. Anyone have any ideas?

[SPHERE]

http://www.anthonylauzon.net/tmp/atitool.png

Card: Sapphire x800GTO
Piplelines Unlocked: 12
Core: R480

I am interested in knowing if I can get 16 unlocked. Anyone have any ideas?Doesn't look like it :( but it should flash to a x850xtpe (the ram might not run that fast without better cooling though. or you may hav 2.0ns ram that wont at all :()

[Megatron]

Have read the modding guide and it saying that its only applicable for the sapphire card, but my connect card has the same settings for the fuses, but the chip is R423
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF7FFFF
CONDIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9F

does this mean its moddable?

Cheers
I think its modable.

[SPHERE]

I think its modable.
indeed :)

[slaesche]

Doesn't look like it :( but it should flash to a x850xtpe (the ram might not run that fast without better cooling though. or you may hav 2.0ns ram that wont at all :()

Is it because there are E's there? It has the 480 core, just like the GTO2. What do you mean when you say it should be able to be flashed to an x850 xt pe? Should I just flash it with that bios?

[SPHERE]

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0XxxxFxxx
CONDIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XxxxxxxF

if a f isnt there then its bad :(

if you want you can flash to a xtpe but overclocking will give you the same performance gain :)

[diduknowthat]

811

edit: oops forgot to tell what kinda card. ATI x850pro w/ vivo...now someone help me unlock the pipes..cause i've failed many times trying already.

[SPHERE]

811

edit: oops forgot to tell what kinda card. ATI x850pro w/ vivo...now someone help me unlock the pipes..cause i've failed many times trying already. this card is agp right?

when did you buy this card? and from where?

btw you aren't going to be able to get those pipes :( acording to that they are locked perminatly :(

[vexen]

here is my card

[tamalero]

ok ladies and gentlemen, I just got my Sapphire GTO^2
Imnow just waiting for my new PCI-E motherboard to set it up :o

rare thing is... this thing came witouth a box and witouth manual, seems a OEM version.. I think they removed the box in the shop because they already offered the flashed versions.

[mdmitriy]

did you find that out by looking at the core its self or from a program?

btw do you have a pci vid card cause to make this work we are gonna have to bad flash your card with a ddr3 bios temporarly :) lol

Where your help?
I tried flash bios with DDR3 - crashed system
I found R423 by looking at the core
and I think you are bluff

[SPHERE]

Where your help?
I tried flash bios with DDR3 - crashed system
I found R423 by looking at the core
and I think you are bluff
you aren't making sense.... :confused:

steps:
flash to x800xt (pci-e) ddr3 with moded flashrom
flash back to origional bios with unmoded flashrom. (using a pci vid card to see the screen.)
that should give you the pipes. :)

[tamalero]

you aren't making sense.... :confused:

steps:
flash to x800xt (pci-e) ddr3 with moded flashrom
flash back to origional bios with unmoded flashrom. (using a pci vid card to see the screen.)
that should give you the pipes. :)
told you this website is weird. It seems randomly "breaks" the english. like a cheap ass translator ;)
:laugh:

[gto2-doc]

Hey guys,

yesterday my new Sapphire x800 gto² arrived. After installing all drivers and stuff I tried to unlock from 12pp to 16pp. I followed every step showed at http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/127/1

After flashing the bios (worked only with the -f parameter) and rebooting the card didn't work. Thank god, that i burned the original bios on the boot-cd too (I blindly typed the parameters :P)

If you have any idea, how my card will work with the 16pp please post it. :)

Edit: I actually tried it with a other .bin from a german site (think it's the same only with other name, has the same size). Here it worked without the -f parameter but card still doesn't work with this bios.

Edit no.2: Now I used a standard x850xt bios, and it worked (only turned off Vivo support with rabit). What is the critical temperature for the sapphire x800gto²? In idle my card has now 35° C (30° C with gto² bios). I did the HL²stress test, the temperature goes up to 50° (think thats no problem, but the stress test is very short.. what about long term usage?)

thx a lot..

doc`

[peta01]

Hey guys,

yesterday my new Sapphire x800 gto² arrived. After installing all drivers and stuff I tried to unlock from 12pp to 16pp. I followed every step showed at http://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/vidcard/127/1

After flashing the bios (worked only with the -f parameter) and rebooting the card didn't work. Thank god, that i burned the original bios on the boot-cd too.

If you have any idea, how my card will work with the 16pp please post it. :)

Edit: I actually tried it with a other .bin from a german site (think it's the same only with other name, has the same size). Here it worked without the -f parameter but card still doesn't work with this bios.

Edit no.2: Now I used a standard x850xt bios, and it worked (only turned off Vivo support with rabit). What is the critical temperature for the sapphire x800gto²? In idle my card has now 35° C (30° C with gto² bios). I did the HL²stress test, the temperature goes up to 50° (think thats no problem, but the stress test is very short.. what about long term usage?)

thx a lot..

doc`

Hey man, you are lucky, your card is unlockable:D . Just find a better BIOS that is suitable for your video card parametres (memory type, speed(ns), amount).
Try to run Artifact scan for a least two hours. Then you can be sure that the card is stable at these clocks. Temperatures around 50°C are OK and do not short the life of your card;)
But you can buy a better cooler to get more speed, lower temps and lower noise.

[gto2-doc]

I've bought the Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 5 Rev.2.. think this will work a long time =)

but i'm still looking for a better bios.. when i scan for artifacts the test freezes my computer after 5 mins or so.. but no artifacts were found. After this I used ATI-tool to slow down ram and gpu frequenzy. So i'm still looking for the perfect bios.

If anyone has "THE" bios for the gto² plz post it :P.

[SPHERE]

I've bought the Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 5 Rev.2.. think this will work a long time =)

but i'm still looking for a better bios.. when i scan for artifacts the test freezes my computer after 5 mins or so.. but no artifacts were found. After this I used ATI-tool to slow down ram and gpu frequenzy. So i'm still looking for the perfect bios.

If anyone has "THE" bios for the gto² plz post it :P.
the x850xt non vivo bios should be 1000% compataple with that card if you are having probs its likely that it's overheating or it needs to be returned for rma

is your fan spinning?

[gto2-doc]

First the fan was always at 52%, no matter if the card was in idle or in high ratio. So I forced the fan by using ATI-tool (a very smart tool.. was till this moment nvidia user :P) to run always 100%. This night i will try to run the artifact test under xt circumstances. Now I have my card at standard gto²settings, aside from the 16pp. First I will try to run a test under settings in the mid of standard and the x850xt settings. Then I will raise the settings step by step.

plz explain "rma" to me.. normally i'm no overclocking fan (i'm really a newbie in this profession..) but this card was introduced as a "hot tip". I'm not satisfied with my old 6600gt. So i chose this card, and try now to find a way to get in the mid between maximum performance and a stable long time life of the card.

[SPHERE]

rma is where you call up sapphire and ask them for a replacement

you ship it to them and they ship you a new one :)

tell them it randomly crashes on you but other than that it's best to sound like a noob while talking to them :) ;)

[gto2-doc]

naaa, on this setting now the card works without crashes. Only when I have the card @xt850xt or xt pe settings it freezes my system (nothing works, reset is the only solution). Atm i have the card on standard settings as suggested for the gto² (only the 16 pixelpiplines are unlocked). Now I can run the artifact test for hours. Only @high settings it causes crashes. Don't think a new card will react otherwise :P

[tamalero]

naaa, on this setting now the card works without crashes. Only when I have the card @xt850xt or xt pe settings it freezes my system (nothing works, reset is the only solution). Atm i have the card on standard settings as suggested for the gto² (only the 16 pixelpiplines are unlocked). Now I can run the artifact test for hours. Only @high settings it causes crashes. Don't think a new card will react otherwise :P

maybe your case is so hot the poor card cant disipate enought heat, other thing could be that.. you overclocked your cpu and it affected your pci express slot?

[gto2-doc]

i overclocked nothing (remember: problems only occur when i run my gto² @x850xt mhz). i played 1,5 hours @doom3 (1024 @high details, 4xAA, 4AF) and several times cs:s (but not so long each time) and the card never reachs a temperature higher than ~50-55°C, even with x850xt speeds. I don't think the temperature is the prob. Only when i do the artifact test, the system freezes after ~5min (only @x850xt frequenzies, @std settings it works for hours)

Edit: my cpu has under maximum usage ~38°C, system temperature is about 37°C. Video Card in idle: 34°C --> maximum: ~50°C

[ShadowFlare]

Mine appears to be a little different than for another GTO2 posted here. BTW, mine is modded to 16 pipelines, of course. ;)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2183/x800gto2fuses2ec.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800gto2fuses2ec.jpg)

Does anyone know what those last two numbers mean?

[forss]

r430
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES : 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES : 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES : 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT : 0x227A4

bleh doubt this is any gd ;P
wouldnt mind flashing though since I had a 9700np with 8 pipes.
flashing it to pro got me a better performance increase then just overclocking.

[malware]

Here's my brand new Sapphire X800GTO 256Mb PCI-E
core: R480, memory: Samsung 2.0ns
It can't be unlocked with both X850 and Connect3D GTO BIOS

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1305/x800gto9sz.png

[sniviler]

I'm having trouble getting 16 pipes on my BBA x850pro agp, I can get the increased core/mem speeds OC 540/590 NP.

looks flashable though ?

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861

Maybe I'll try a different bios.

[dolf]

Don't forget to use modified flashrom!!!;) .

Success

[SPHERE]

I'm having trouble getting 16 pipes on my BBA x850pro agp, I can get the increased core/mem speeds OC 540/590 NP.

looks flashable though ?

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861

Maybe I'll try a different bios.
yah, that should be unlocking. :)

do as dolf said and make shure you have the moded flashrom :)

[peta01]

i overclocked nothing (remember: problems only occur when i run my gto² @x850xt mhz). i played 1,5 hours @doom3 (1024 @high details, 4xAA, 4AF) and several times cs:s (but not so long each time) and the card never reachs a temperature higher than ~50-55°C, even with x850xt speeds. I don't think the temperature is the prob. Only when i do the artifact test, the system freezes after ~5min (only @x850xt frequenzies, @std settings it works for hours)

Edit: my cpu has under maximum usage ~38°C, system temperature is about 37°C. Video Card in idle: 34°C --> maximum: ~50°C

Are you sure, that you installed the heatsink properly? Look wether the memories sit on the cooler. Did you use thermal paste?

[tamalero]

Here's my brand new Sapphire X800GTO 256Mb PCI-E
core: R480, memory: Samsung 2.0ns
It can't be unlocked with both X850 and Connect3D GTO BIOS

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1305/x800gto9sz.png

I tought only GTO^2 special editions were moddeable?
if you're using a normal gto , lot of ppl will tell you that its not moddeable o_O

[Michel]

who can tell me what is the best way to clock my x800rx? can i reach more pipelines?
I have now 8 pipelines enabled...

[ShadowFlare]

I'm having trouble getting 16 pipes on my BBA x850pro agp, I can get the increased core/mem speeds OC 540/590 NP.

looks flashable though ?

Chip Type: R481

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861

Maybe I'll try a different bios.
According to that, yours should be unlockable. What flash utility are you using and what commands are you using for the flash?

For the utility, you should be using the modified flashrom or use atiflash 3.xx with its -newbios option.

[gto2-doc]

Are you sure, that you installed the heatsink properly? Look wether the memories sit on the cooler. Did you use thermal paste?


Sure. I think I found the problem. I dunno why.. but my soundcard seems to be damaged. After removing it from the computer no problems occur. This is a little bit strange in my eyes. Oo

[tamalero]

I must be lucky, I got a message from my support who sold me the GTO^2
they sold me the card already modded, and WITH GARANTEE as long I dont overdo the overclocking :P

[tamalero]

Sure. I think I found the problem. I dunno why.. but my soundcard seems to be damaged. After removing it from the computer no problems occur. This is a little bit strange in my eyes. Oo
maybe the vid card lockd the irq or has much higher priority and thus the soundcard b*tches for not being hable to access the resources? happened with a lot of Creative Audigy 2 cards

[gto2-doc]

was an audigy I card. think there can be the same probs too, because Audigy I & II have the same chip.

now i activated my soundblaster 24bit live onboard.. no probs till this moment :]

[SPHERE]

who can tell me what is the best way to clock my x800rx? can i reach more pipelines?
I have now 8 pipelines enabled...
post what it tells you to do on the first page plz...

[m1rage]

This is my sapphire x800gt 256mb red PCB:
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/42123.jpg

and fuses:
846

Can i mod it to 12 or 16 and how?

[Logar]

Hi,
I can overclock my sapphire gto fireblade (R480, 1.6ns samsung) to 615/609 (stabel), reaching 6177 points in 3dmark05 with a venice 3000+ (not overclocked)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

but i have only 12 active pipelines.

i know, that their must be a "F" instead fo an "E", but i have still hope :ohwell:
can i unlock my gto with a bios update? or is it laserlocked?

(sry 4 my bad enlish)
thx 4 answers

[Michel]

who can tell me what is the best way to clock my x800rx? can i reach more pipelines?
I have only 8 pipelines now.....

To put it simply, the Radeon X800 RX is a Radeon X800GT, simply using a different name as decided by Club 3D. The clock speeds and architecture are the same as that seen in our recent Powercolor Radeon X800GT review, featuring as it does six vertex shaders and eight pixel pipelines clocked at 475MHz core and 490MHz DDR RAM (980MHZ effective). It does appear (from the part description on Club 3D's web site) that the Radeon X800RX uses only R480 cores, compared to Radeon X800GT parts which can be made up of either R423, R430 or R480 cores.
http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=12175

so... a r480? I'm not @home right now....
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=847&stc=1&d=1129579792
And I have a powersuply of 350 watt is this a bottleneck

[tamalero]

was an audigy I card. think there can be the same probs too, because Audigy I & II have the same chip.

now i activated my soundblaster 24bit live onboard.. no probs till this moment :]
you can just change to a diferent PCI port, wich has a diferent signal or interrupt than the PCI EXPRESS or AGP used for the vid card.

[dolf]

M1rage, my opinion is that you can't have even 12 pipes but you can try. Please post results after:) .


Logar, your ATITool result is very interesting and the flashing result could be also interesting. Probably you will have the pipes. Please try and post what you have got (with another run of the ATITool with the same pipe fuse research). :confused: :confused:

[SPHERE]

This is my sapphire x800gt 256mb red PCB:
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/42123.jpg

and fuses:
846

Can i mod it to 12 or 16 and how?you can try :) but i dont think you will get any more pipes :( btw im pretty shure thats a r423 but just incase upload your bios for me and ill tell you what core it has :) (so you will know what bios to try)

Hi,
I can overclock my sapphire gto fireblade (R480, 1.6ns samsung) to 615/609 (stabel), reaching 6177 points in 3dmark05 with a venice 3000+ (not overclocked)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

but i have only 12 active pipelines.

i know, that their must be a "F" instead fo an "E", but i have still hope :ohwell:
can i unlock my gto with a bios update? or is it laserlocked?

(sry 4 my bad enlish)
thx 4 answers
look at the core to be shure that it is a r480 :) but if i remember right that "e" means that the lasercut is cut (which can be moded) (somebody correct me if im wrong..) (upload your stock bios aswell dude :))

who can tell me what is the best way to clock my x800rx? can i reach more pipelines?
I have only 8 pipelines now.....

To put it simply, the Radeon X800 RX is a Radeon X800GT, simply using a different name as decided by Club 3D. The clock speeds and architecture are the same as that seen in our recent Powercolor Radeon X800GT review, featuring as it does six vertex shaders and eight pixel pipelines clocked at 475MHz core and 490MHz DDR RAM (980MHZ effective). It does appear (from the part description on Club 3D's web site) that the Radeon X800RX uses only R480 cores, compared to Radeon X800GT parts which can be made up of either R423, R430 or R480 cores.
http://www.elitebastards.com/page.php?pageid=12175

so... a r480? I'm not @home right now....
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=847&stc=1&d=1129579792
And I have a powersuply of 350 watt is this a bottleneck gt cant use r430 the core speed is too fast for it..

look and find out for shure if you have a r480 core ok :)

[dolf]

Sean, are you sure that this core has lasercuts (front side)? If yes the left cut should be connected and 16 pipes will be possible.
If not the core should be R480 which changes the situation and it will tells me different storry. But let the guy to post picture of the core and to send you the bios. I am very concerned with the results of that case:) .

[SPHERE]

Sean, are you sure that this core has lasercuts (front side)? If yes the left cut should be connected and 16 pipes will be possible.
If not the core should be R480 which changes the situation and it will tells me different storry. But let the guy to post picture of the core and to send you the bios. I am very concerned with the results of that case:) . logars card? no im not shure ;) but it's worth a look under the hood and a shot in the dark :) if you know what i mean :)

[Logar]

Thx guys, :toast:
i will do the things after i come back from scool.
(The Hope never dies) :roll:


Had a look, its the same core like on the picture and definitly a R480 (sry, have no cam)
The BIOS i willl post later

[Michel]

sean478 I have really a r480, and the text on the core is ati GO

[SPHERE]

sean478 I have really a r480, and the text on the core is ati GO what does it say on your mem chips? :)

[Michel]

:toast: samsung 2.0, is that what you mean? I'm also sorry for my prayed English:P I'm not sure about this... I'm not @home right now. ... is it is a samsung 2.0 than?? or what can I do if it is a 1.6? Greez

[SPHERE]

:toast: samsung 2.0, is that what you mean? I'm also sorry for my prayed English:P I'm not sure about this... I'm not @home right now. ... is it is a samsung 2.0 than?? or what can I do if it is a 1.6? Greez
ok :)

I'd suggest takeing a pcie x850xtpe bios opening it with rabit bios editor 1.7 and disableing the vivo features (asumeing you have none on your card) and setting the ram clocks to 500

after you make the bios use the moded flashrom to flash the bios to your card if the pipes dont unlock try atiflash with the -newbios swich if that doesn't work then leave the xtpe bios on there and call it a day lol (btw fyi you arent going to get all 16 pipes so dont get your hopes up :( but there is a chance of 12 ;))

[Michel]

thnx sean, can you explain me how to backup my orginal bios?

[SPHERE]

thnx sean, can you explain me how to backup my orginal bios? ati tool/settings/misc./dump bios :)

[Michel]

looks easy:) thnx, when I'm @ home I'll tell you the results;)

[SPHERE]

looks easy:) thnx, when I'm @ home I'll tell you the results;)
k :)

btw make shure that you dont put a agp bios on that thing it will turn it into a paperweight infact show me your bios once you are done and ill confirm it's a r480 bios :)

(if the flash doesn't work and you cant see the screen you will need a pci vid card to flash back :))

[Logar]

And now here is the bios from my GTO Fireblade with r480 core

My first Post:

Hi,
I can overclock my sapphire gto fireblade (R480, 1.6ns samsung) to 615/609 (stabel), reaching 6177 points in 3dmark05 with a venice 3000+ (not overclocked)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

but i have only 12 active pipelines.

i know, that their must be a "F" instead fo an "E", but i have still hope
can i unlock my gto with a bios update? or is it laserlocked?

[SPHERE]

And now here is the bios from my GTO Fireblade with r480 core

My first Post:


Hi,
I can overclock my sapphire gto fireblade (R480, 1.6ns samsung) to 615/609 (stabel), reaching 6177 points in 3dmark05 with a venice 3000+ (not overclocked)

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

but i have only 12 active pipelines.

i know, that their must be a "F" instead fo an "E", but i have still hope
can i unlock my gto with a bios update? or is it laserlocked?ok thx (i wasnt able to open up the bios in a editor cause it think it's corrupt but i was able to tell from notepad that it is indeed a 4r80 core but you already confirmed that so it's all good ;))

ok let's see now..

i think you should do the exact thing that i told michel to do with his bios except leave your mem at 590 (x850xtpe stock)
:)

let me know how it goes dude :)

btw,
Is yours soldered or gold?>

[Michel]

mine is soldered

[Logar]

ok thx (i wasnt able to open up the bios in a editor cause it think it's corrupt but i was able to tell from notepad that it is indeed a 4r80 core but you already confirmed that so it's all good ;))

ok let's see now..

i think you should do the exact thing that i told michel to do with his bios except leave your mem at 590 (x850xtpe stock)
:)

let me know how it goes dude :)

btw,
Is yours soldered or gold?>


Its like the first one (xtpe)
i think in 30 minutes i know if that worked for me or not

[Michel]

I'll post my bios when I'm back @home (concerning a 7 hours, I'm @ Work for now,: (so I can flash my card tomorrow:)

[Logar]

Ok guys thx 4 help,
but it doesnt work 4 me.
1. I tried with a Sapphire x850 xt pe bios (vivo disabled with rabit)
2. than a modified x800 gto² bios including 16 pipes
after thad, i overclocked my original gto fireblade bios with rabit 1.7 to 540/590

i tried to flash all bioses with the moddified flashrom utility
but, what you mean with "-newbios switch" that i should try with atiflash? thiere is no parameter like that listed in atiflash.

Now i will wait and look what the time brings or can i do a hardmod to unlock the 4 locked pipes?

[Michel]

here is my bios,

[ShadowFlare]

i tried to flash all bioses with the moddified flashrom utility
but, what you mean with "-newbios switch" that i should try with atiflash? thiere is no parameter like that listed in atiflash.
It isn't listed, but it is a hidden option in atiflash 3.xx. There is no need to try it, since you have already tried the modified flashrom. When using the -newbios option, it behaves equivalent to the modified flashrom.

[SPHERE]

It isn't listed, but it is a hidden option in atiflash 3.xx. There is no need to try it, since you have already tried the modified flashrom. When using the -newbios option, it behaves equivalent to the modified flashrom.
actualy there is sometimes atiflash can unlock pipes that flashrom won't (idono) so it's best to try both :)

those marks in the picture dudes im not shure what exactly they are for but it may explin the werid fuse reading logar got (though idono)

the x850 pro is usaly soldered and the xt/xtpe usaly isn't ;)

here is my bios,
ok that confirms that it's a r480 core :)

let us know how it goes :)

[newmodder]

p4ge-mx mobo
p4(prescott @2.4ghz/ 2.8ghz oc
win xp home
80 gig ata harddrive 7200rpm
512 pc3200
ati x800XL 16pixpipes/agp 4times

[The_NME]

Could anyone who has an AGP x800GTO of any brand (preferably Sapphire) please post the PN at the top of the card as well as what core it has, and if it has modded OK?

I have to chose between keeping the Sapphire x800GTO AGP I have or getting a x800GTO2 PCI-E (what I originally ordered)

[SPHERE]

^go for the gto2 dude :) take this chance to move on to pcie :)

[mrvomit]

Hi MATES!
My card is a HIS x800gt iceqII 475/590.
I got a bunch of very Useful information from ShadowFlare about my card (THANKS!),that's my
screenshot

[mrvomit]

and thats is my original bios.
ANy info and help to the possibility of unlock would be gladly accepted,though shadowflare already adviced me is very difficult it could be done

[SPHERE]

thx for the bios im looking into it now hold on :)


Edit: grrr... stupid gt bioses lieing about the core lamo! it says you have a r430 but there is no way lmao!

can you take off the cooler and take a pic of the core without thermal grease on it :)

[mrvomit]

yep thanks!(hey a thundelight speed !of answer)
The only think i don have a pci video in the case i make something wrong,but i'm so tempted..ghgh

Edit: urgh is the pc i 'm using in that moment .Can't take out so easily now GRRR.
When i make it,i have to put thermal arctic again right after?

[SPHERE]

yep thanks!(hey a thundelight speed !of answer)
The only think i don have a pci video in the case i make something wrong,but i'm so tempted..ghgh
hummm that would be a prob.. :(

btw did you see my edit? :)

[mrvomit]

yep i saw the edit :-).
Any other thing i could make to take infos?i took the bios out with atitool

[SPHERE]

yep i saw the edit :-).
Any other thing i could make to take infos?i took the bios out with atitool
you could tell me what it says on the mem chips :)

yes you will need to put more thermal goop on it :(

[mrvomit]

that you mean?

The card is really FAT(impossible for example a sli with it).
i'm kinda worried to open it at the moment.
i've hoped to handle just software thing (uhm ati flash is just Dos?or Win also?)

[SPHERE]

that you mean?

The card is really FAT(impossible for example a sli with it).
i'm kinda worried to open it at the moment.
i've hoped to handle just software thing (uhm ati flash is just Dos?or Win also?)
When i make it,i have to put thermal arctic again right after?
yes you will need to put more thermal goop on it :(

sli.. ? eh?

im thinkin r423 core but if im wrong the card could be badflashed and become a paperweight :(

what is your max stable core oc? :)

[mrvomit]

OC with atitool?
i dunno exactly,when atitool ran the tests the values changed a lot .
Option "find maximum core" and "memories" are faulty as you have to run for hours
(and i did'nt do for hours,fearing to damage the card)

I think it could be safely 500-540, but is just a guess.
for now i did put 492.75/ 519.75. Temp 35 gpu/38 memory
i WILL Run a 3DMARK05 to see it,but is a too short test i think

[SPHERE]

OC with atitool?
i dunno exactly,when atitool ran the tests the values changed a lot .
Option fin nd maximum core and memories are faulty as you have to run for hours
(and i did'nt fearing to damage the card)

I think it could be safely 500-540, but is just a guess.
for now i did put 492.75/ 519.75.
i WILL Run a 3DMARK05 to see it,but is a too short test i think
ati tool is suposed to run for hours testing stability (actualy forever.. but dont let it run more than a hour or 2 cause its pointless)

set it to 575 core and click for find max core and tell me where it settles (example it starts at 575 and settles around 550) :)

[mrvomit]

i got an Hardware crash after i did set core to 575 .So no way to set so high the core.Dunno if the fan raised speed accordingly but i doubt (now fun is at 54%).better to start from 490 core i think
(now is raising at 533 when i'm writing).
I will keep an eye to thi useful post and forum.
I will take the guts to try ,as for now ,i did not meet other people with a His videocard,

When i was speaking about" sli ",i was meaning just th the card is really fat/large ,it occupies almost 2 slot of space

[SPHERE]

i got an Hardware crash after i did set core to 575 .So no way to set so high the core.Dunno if the fan raised speed accordingly but i doubt (now fun is at 54%).better to start from 490 core i think
(now is raising at 533 when i'm writing).
I will keep an eye to thi useful post and forum.
I will take the guts to try ,as for now ,i did not meet other people with a His videocard,

When i was speaking about" sli ",i was meaning just th the card is really fat/large ,it occupies almost 2 slot of space
o i c :) if it crashed at 575 then it is likely a r423 but i cant say for shure what about 555?

[mrvomit]

it's running at 546,75 from 30 minutes. 52-53 TemP
i think i will let the atitool to find a bit now th i have started,It is taking 98% of my new amd3000+ cpu ,heavvvvyyy.
atiflash is just Dos?

EDIT:AFTER 1 hour of NO ERRORs it suddenly hardCRASHed .IS ist strange or not ?also the tmp never got beyond 52, thas why i feel is strange.

[tal47]

Sapphire X800GT GDDR3 256RAM
laser cut mod to 12 pipes.

edit-> chip R423 (pics are available)

can you explain me how to do the mod?

[Shyska]

can you explain me how to do the mod?

Remove cooler, on the core there are 4 yellow dots like that:

o....o
..o..-
o....o

notice the minus sign, it is a laser cut between two dots, your goal is to connect those dots.

On my card those dots were covered with some thin substance, so i simply used needle to gently rub it of. Then use some conductive pen or pencil (i used some silver conductive gel or whatever they gave me at hardware shop, it costed like 3$) and connect dots around laser cut not filling laser cut itself. Thats all. Now you only need to put back some thermal paste and cooler.

Now your card should perform with 12 pipes. In case pipes are bad you can always clean that bridge you made (so make it carefully at the first place).


EDIT:
there is pic of mycard:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2554/front14pa.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front14pa.jpg)

you can notice red dot on upper right corner of the core with 4 yellow dots arround it, also laser blurs in between them. Unfortunately I never took pic of moded core.

[julesdakar]

hi everybody:toast: i'm from senegal in west africa sorry for my poor english

i have a SAPPHIRE X800 GTO 256 Mo ddr3 :laugh:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=119

this is my config :

gigabyte GA-k8nf-9
amd 64 3000+
2x256 corsair dual
Maxtor sata 200Go

in my vga cards under the fanless i have seen the chip of my card is a R480 ATI like atitools sayed:rockout:

but in the ati tools 0.24 this what i see in the shift+setting :banghead: (attached jpg files)

no hope for me to change the bios?:respect: :cry:

respect the community thanks :(

[SPHERE]

hi everybody:toast: i'm from senegal in west africa sorry for my poor english

i have a SAPPHIRE X800 GTO 256 Mo ddr3 :laugh:

http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/products/graphics_specifications.php?gpid=119

this is my config :

gigabyte GA-k8nf-9
amd 64 3000+
2x256 corsair dual
Maxtor sata 200Go

in my vga cards under the fanless i have seen the chip of my card is a R480 ATI like atitools sayed:rockout:

but in the ati tools 0.24 this what i see in the shift+setting :banghead: (attached jpg files)

no hope for me to change the bios?:respect: :cry:

respect the community thanks :(
well you should be able to flash to a x850 xtpe with no problems but you will still only have 12 pipes :(

what are your max stable overclocks?
is the mem cooled?

[koolpc]

Looking at the ATI readout i don't think your card can be flashed mate!

[julesdakar]

:toast: i have this card since one week!

sincerely this is my first ati card in my laptop i have a x700 that's why i bought this cards.
and in the store where i buy the card i haven't seen x800 gto2 it was in france, and the next day i have take the plane for africa.

i have ati tools can you help me?

1 - firstly i want to backup my bios : in ati tools i use the fonction "dump the bios" ? to backup my bios ?

2- secondly to test the max overclocking of my vga card. in ati tools i must use the "find max core" fonction to know my limit overclocking ?

3 - thirdly in the ram chip of my vga card , my ram aren't no "cool" i have only one fanless in the ati chip! ( i'll take picture of my chip and my ram today for my post) if i buy onje ZALMAN VF 700CUfor my vga card

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zalman/VF700-Cu/2

it's a good investissment for overclocking ? sorry i don't want buy this only for fun that's whay i ask this question!!:respect:

thanks

[julesdakar]

koolpc---> where you can see the ATI "readout" ?

[SPHERE]

Looking at the ATI readout i don't think your card can be flashed mate!
can't be unlocked but there isn't a problem with flashing ;)
:toast: i have this card since one week!

sincerely this is my first ati card in my laptop i have a x700 that's why i bought this cards.
and in the store where i buy the card i haven't seen x800 gto2 it was in france, and the next day i have take the plane for africa.

i have ati tools can you help me?

1 - firstly i want to backup my bios : in ati tools i use the fonction "dump the bios" ? to backup my bios ?

2- secondly to test the max overclocking of my vga card. in ati tools i must use the "find max core" fonction to know my limit overclocking ?

3 - thirdly in the ram chip of my vga card , my ram aren't no "cool" i have only one fanless in the ati chip! ( i'll take picture of my chip and my ram today for my post) if i buy onje ZALMAN VF 700CUfor my vga card

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zalman/VF700-Cu/2

it's a good investissment for overclocking ? sorry i don't want buy this only for fun that's whay i ask this question!!:respect:

thanks
backup bios: yes
max oc: yes use the find max buttons they will eventualy settle on a mhz after about 1 hour :)
ram: yes its normal for them to get hot

zalman a good investment: yes its a great cooler :)

[julesdakar]

thanks sean! i have a question :

to flash the bios i must do this protocol ?

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127

today i'll command the zalman cooler.....

and i'll modified my bios to shared my original bios to the community

[tal47]

Remove cooler, on the core there are 4 yellow dots like that:

o....o
..o..-
o....o

notice the minus sign, it is a laser cut between two dots, your goal is to connect those dots.

On my card those dots were covered with some thin substance, so i simply used needle to gently rub it of. Then use some conductive pen or pencil (i used some silver conductive gel or whatever they gave me at hardware shop, it costed like 3$) and connect dots around laser cut not filling laser cut itself. Thats all. Now you only need to put back some thermal paste and cooler.

Now your card should perform with 12 pipes. In case pipes are bad you can always clean that bridge you made (so make it carefully at the first place).


EDIT:
there is pic of mycard:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2554/front14pa.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front14pa.jpg)

you can notice red dot on upper right corner of the core with 4 yellow dots arround it, also laser blurs in between them. Unfortunately I never took pic of moded core.


Thanks Man!!!

but how can i be sure that i have 12 pipes? should i burn a new bios?

[julesdakar]

somebody can see my post here please ?

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5920

[cyclups]

Hi is mine, a Sapphire X800pro.

[Sibic]

Can i put a better bios in my card? Maybe get thoose 16 pipes?
I can clock the memory up to 607 mhz, and the core to 533. I did put the mem on stock speed, and then put ATItool to find max core, and it just went on and on and on and at 580 i just cancelled it because i thought maybe it wasnt really clocking the core because 570 was insane heh.
Here is my picture. It's a r480 core. Oh it's Sapphire x800GTO unfortunetly not GTO2 :(

[SPHERE]

@ 2 above posts: it looks like your dudes are F***** as far as pipe unlocking goes sry :(

@julesdakar use this command to flash flashrom.exe -p -f 0 <bios name>.<bin/rom>

[julesdakar]

hi sean 478!
i have test the cd-dvd flash with the bios of gto2 12 pipes and after reboot i have take the bios of the gto2 16 pipes.
in my pc i have no 3 1/2 i'll we do tis tommorow with a floppy drive.
thanks a lot good night

[tamalero]

I got my modded thingie he he he :>

[julesdakar]

sean478 i have test again with my card, i have uninstalled all my ati driver
force the flash with the 16 pipes after the 12 pipes x800 gto2 bios
after reboot i have installed my drivers, in panel properties x850 i have seen but in atitools always the clock of x800 gto2 400/490 (core/mame) :-(

[Sibic]

I can still bios mod my Sapphire x800GTO?
What bios should i use?
Is it completely impossible to get 16 pipes on this card? Or can i try? Do i need a special unlock bios or just flash to x850XT?

[Ghozy]

Power Color X800GT 475/980 1.6ns

[ShadowFlare]

Did anyone who unlocked pipelines on a Powercolor X800 GT have to flash the bios after doing the hardmod to unlock them? I tried flashing the Powercolor X800 GT bios to my GTO2 so I could do some benchmarks with 8 pipelines, but it stayed at 16! Are there any X800/X850 bioses that are known to be set at 8 pipelines?

BTW, I've confirmed the Powercolor X800 GT bios to be compatible with R480 chips. I've flashed an X850 XT PE bios (with reduced speeds) to the Powercolor X800 GT and it works just fine, and the Powercolor X800 GT bios works on an R480, too. (my GTO2)


To anyone who would respond saying that I did something wrong: no, I absolutely did NOT do anything wrong during the flash, I have plenty of experience with flashing the bios on these cards, so don't even suggest that I did something wrong! I am a fairly advanced computer user, not some n00b.

[SPHERE]

Did anyone who unlocked pipelines on a Powercolor X800 GT have to flash the bios after doing the hardmod to unlock them? I tried flashing the Powercolor X800 GT bios to my GTO2 so I could do some benchmarks with 8 pipelines, but it stayed at 16! Are there any X800/X850 bioses that are known to be set at 8 pipelines? use the moded flashrom :)

[ShadowFlare]

use the moded flashrom :)
That's exactly the kind of response I was saying that I didn't want. I'm looking for a different bios, not the right way to flash it. I'm pretty sure I've been able to get my card back to 12 pipelines before, so the flashing isn't the problem.

Anyway, my first question was directed to people who have successfully unlocked pipelines on that card by doing the hardmod (bridging the laser cut).

[RatusNatus]

Man, i think you are the only one that have successfully unlocked pipelines on this card...

Tell us more!

[julesdakar]

Did anyone who unlocked pipelines on a Powercolor X800 GT have to flash the bios after doing the hardmod to unlock them? I tried flashing the Powercolor X800 GT bios to my GTO2 so I could do some benchmarks with 8 pipelines, but it stayed at 16! Are there any X800/X850 bioses that are known to be set at 8 pipelines?

BTW, I've confirmed the Powercolor X800 GT bios to be compatible with R480 chips. I've flashed an X850 XT PE bios (with reduced speeds) to the Powercolor X800 GT and it works just fine, and the Powercolor X800 GT bios works on an R480, too. (my GTO2)


To anyone who would respond saying that I did something wrong: no, I absolutely did NOT do anything wrong during the flash, I have plenty of experience with flashing the bios on these cards, so don't even suggest that I did something wrong! I am a fairly advanced computer user, not some n00b.

have you unlocked an x800 gt ? to a 16 pipelines ? tell me the procedures ? perhaps it will work with my x800 gto 256 Mo (i'm staying to 12 pipelines)
thanks

[.:DemiaN:.]

I have a PowerColor X800GT 256Mb DDR3 PCI-E and i dont have "fuses", i dont understand :(
Please help me

PD: Sorry for the bad english, im from Argentina and here the people use other language

[Roboque]

8 pipes aktive
490 gpu
980 ram
R480

Which bios use on this card? Possible Saphire x800 gto or x800 gto2?
Im lamer how use the ATIWinflash? How determine the filename? Tiping this name file xxx or xxx.bin? And then use the load? I try filename and load but no response :(((

[ShadowFlare]

Man, i think you are the only one that have successfully unlocked pipelines on this card...

Tell us more!
have you unlocked an x800 gt ? to a 16 pipelines ? tell me the procedures ? perhaps it will work with my x800 gto 256 Mo (i'm staying to 12 pipelines)
thanks
Lol, sorry for the confusion, but this was on a Sapphire X800 GTO2. ;) I flashed to the Powercolor X800 GT bios. BTW, here are some pictures of the number of pipelines and the fuses data when using that bios:

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/1769/x800gt16p5ci.th.jpg (http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800gt16p5ci.jpg)http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/4665/x800gt16pfuses6yq.th.jpg (http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x800gt16pfuses6yq.jpg)

Notice that it calls in an R423 and it has the X800 GT clock speeds.

I've double-checked by flashing back to the original bios to get 12 pipelines first and checking the number of pipelines before flashing to another bios and have found that the Powercolor X800 GT bios does indeed have the number of pipelines set to 16 in the bios. This means that for the people who are successful with a hardmod on that card will not need to flash the bios to get the unlocked pipelines to show up.

[Er4z0r]

is it possable to unlock this x800 gto, its got the R480 chip

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Er4z0r/pic1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Er4z0r/pic2.jpg

it dosnt exceed 40c under full load and clocked at 555/555
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Er4z0r/pic3.jpg
i think i atached the bios too

911

[ShadowFlare]

is it possable to unlock this x800 gto, its got the R480 chip
Based on what other people have said about the fuses data, it's not likely that your's will unlock. It probably wouldn't hurt to try flashing the bios, but it will probably just be a waste of time.

[SPHERE]

Based on what other people have said about the fuses data, it's not likely that your's will unlock. It probably wouldn't hurt to try flashing the bios, but it will probably just be a waste of time.
agreed :(

[Er4z0r]

any idea's what bios to try flashing it with then ?

[SPHERE]

any idea's what bios to try flashing it with then ?
any pcie x850xt/xtpe bios :)

[RatusNatus]

There are another threat to unlockeble cards... but they are doing some hard mod over there, hehehe. Let they try and get the results.

Shadowflare, as you can see, my english is not so good. My bad.

Cheers

[ShadowFlare]

I think I've figured out more about what some of the fuses data means. For CONFIG_ROM_FUSES when it is in a form like 0x26X, 0x86X, or 0xA6X:

When X = 0, no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 16 pipelines)
When X = 1, 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (bios is set to 12 pipelines)
When X = 2, 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 8 pipelines)

This seems to be the case for a lot of bioses I've seen, mainly for R423, R430, and R480. Now, just because you have a zero there, that doesn't mean you have 16 pipelines, it just means that your bios is set to that.

For example, in all cases I've seen a zero there on Powercolor X800 GT's, but that card only has 8 pipelines. However, if you flash that bios to a 16 pipeline card (using the modified flashrom or atiflash -newbios), you will still have 16 pipelines. For example, if you flash it to a GTO2 that hasn't been unlocked to 16 yet (still has 12 pipelines), the Powercolor X800 GT bios will unlock it to 16.

[janjansen]

MSI RX800-se

http://home.planet.nl/~bunte067/fuses.jpg

and here's mine, not to unlock i think

[SPHERE]

http://home.planet.nl/~bunte067/fuses.jpg

and here's mine, not to unlock i think
what card is that x700?:confused:

[Sibic]

I think I've figured out more about what some of the fuses data means. For CONFIG_ROM_FUSES when it is in a form like 0x26X, 0x86X, or 0xA6X:

When X = 0, no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 16 pipelines)
When X = 1, 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (bios is set to 12 pipelines)
When X = 2, 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 8 pipelines)

This seems to be the case for a lot of bioses I've seen, mainly for R423, R430, and R480. Now, just because you have a zero there, that doesn't mean you have 16 pipelines, it just means that your bios is set to that.

For example, in all cases I've seen a zero there on Powercolor X800 GT's, but that card only has 8 pipelines. However, if you flash that bios to a 16 pipeline card (using the modified flashrom or atiflash -newbios), you will still have 16 pipelines. For example, if you flash it to a GTO2 that hasn't been unlocked to 16 yet (still has 12 pipelines), the Powercolor X800 GT bios will unlock it to 16.

So the Powercooler X800GT bios unlocks pipes? Could it work on a Sapphire X800GTO?! :) i have 0x261 on my Config_Rom_Fuses.

[janjansen]

what card is that x700?:confused:

sorry, MSI rx800-se

[ryboto]

Remove cooler, on the core there are 4 yellow dots like that:

o....o
..o..-
o....o

notice the minus sign, it is a laser cut between two dots, your goal is to connect those dots.

On my card those dots were covered with some thin substance, so i simply used needle to gently rub it of. Then use some conductive pen or pencil (i used some silver conductive gel or whatever they gave me at hardware shop, it costed like 3$) and connect dots around laser cut not filling laser cut itself. Thats all. Now you only need to put back some thermal paste and cooler.

Now your card should perform with 12 pipes. In case pipes are bad you can always clean that bridge you made (so make it carefully at the first place).


EDIT:
there is pic of mycard:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2554/front14pa.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front14pa.jpg)

you can notice red dot on upper right corner of the core with 4 yellow dots arround it, also laser blurs in between them. Unfortunately I never took pic of moded core.
I did that mod...only, i didn't go around the laser cut, the card still functions. I've got an X800pro non vivo, oc's pretty high, and stays cool. The conductive ink should still be there, but if the key is to go around the laser cut, then i guess i should go back and redo it...it's been almost a year since then..

[ShadowFlare]

I think I've figured out more about what some of the fuses data means. For CONFIG_ROM_FUSES when it is in a form like 0x26X, 0x86X, or 0xA6X:

When X = 0, no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 16 pipelines)
When X = 1, 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (bios is set to 12 pipelines)
When X = 2, 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 8 pipelines)
I found where this was stored in the bios and used a hex editor to change it. I was exactly right with this, it does affect what pipelines are locked/unlocked in the bios. In addition to those values, when X = 3, 3 pipelines quads are locked in the bios, so you end up with only 4 pipelines left.

[ryboto]

I noticed a lot of people are using pci-x cards....am I excluded from all this pipeline fun?? i've got an x800pro non-vivo, as stated previously, and it looks like, based on the conclusions made about the fuses, that i've unlocked my pipes...I've done the hard mod, and traced the link where the laser cut was made. I have also tried to flash the thing, but I don't recall using a modified flashrom...is there a special flashrom i'm supposed to use?? Cause when i did it, i used the latest flashrom on this site, and used rabit to remove the vivo, and flashed it to an xt. The thing worked fine, but the pipes didn't unlock. What's a guy to do?

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/995444/atitool.JPG

[SPHERE]

sorry, MSI rx800-seno chance of 16 pipes but maby 12 :)

[SPHERE]

I noticed a lot of people are using pci-x cards....am I excluded from all this pipeline fun?? i've got an x800pro non-vivo, as stated previously, and it looks like, based on the conclusions made about the fuses, that i've unlocked my pipes...I've done the hard mod, and traced the link where the laser cut was made. I have also tried to flash the thing, but I don't recall using a modified flashrom...is there a special flashrom i'm supposed to use?? Cause when i did it, i used the latest flashrom on this site, and used rabit to remove the vivo, and flashed it to an xt. The thing worked fine, but the pipes didn't unlock. What's a guy to do?

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/995444/atitool.JPG
the pipes are locked on the bottom of the core via lasercuts and are almost certanly bad.. :(

[ryboto]

the pipes are locked on the bottom of the core via lasercuts and are almost certanly bad.. :(
i thought the laser cut was on top?

[SPHERE]

i thought the laser cut was on top?
top and bottom :) the ones on top are the only ones worth moding though so it's all good cause the pipes locked on the botom ones are bad anyways ;)

the lasercuts on the botom are cut before the core is marked to be used on any model they are there to perminatly disable bad pipes

[ryboto]

how can you be sure the bottom is cut? based on what atitool says??

[Neocal]

Thanks guys for your effort to try understand the pipes unlock mechanism.
If i can help you just say it.

Neocal.

[SPHERE]

^you could try for 12 pipes :) but 16 is out of the question :( (use the moded flashrom and a x850 xt pcie bios :))

btw thx for posting all the needed info ;)

how can you be sure the bottom is cut? based on what atitool says??
yes :)

[.:DemiaN:.]

I have a PowerColor X800GT 256Mb DDR3 PCI-E and i dont have "fuses", i dont understand :(
Please help me

PD: Sorry for the bad english, im from Argentina and here the people use other language

Anyone can help me???

[ryboto]

yes :)
What part of atitool tells me i have a laser cut below the chip?

[mrvomit]

Originally Posted by ShadowFlare
I think I've figured out more about what some of the fuses data means. For CONFIG_ROM_FUSES when it is in a form like 0x26X, 0x86X, or 0xA6X:

When X = 0, no pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 16 pipelines)
When X = 1, 1 pipeline quad is locked in the bios (bios is set to 12 pipelines)
When X = 2, 2 pipeline quads are locked in the bios (bios is set to 8 pipelines)

I found where this was stored in the bios and used a hex editor to change it. I was exactly right with this, it does affect what pipelines are locked/unlocked in the bios. In addition to those values, when X = 3, 3 pipelines quads are locked in the bios, so you end up with only 4 pipelines left.
now that's is interesting.

So do you mean you can unlock pipes just by modifying that value ,instead to use a modded flash?
You got the unlock by Hex-editing?
So..Could that be a way to reduce risk of a wrong bios flash?

great work shadowflare

[Neocal]

Anyone can help me???

You must hold the shift key before press the settings button in ati tool to view these special registers....

Neocal.:cool:

[ShadowFlare]

now that's is interesting.

So do you mean you can unlock pipes just by modifying that value ,instead to use a modded flash?
You got the unlock by Hex-editing?
So..Could that be a way to reduce risk of a wrong bios flash?

great work shadowflare
It's not really that useful, since you can get the same effect without hex editing by just flashing the bios using methods that have been posted. Someone could ask the author of RaBiT to add that feature, though. That would make it easy for others to do the mod on the number of pixel pipelines. Especially since just modifying only that value is not all that should be done; there are CRC values, checksums, or something similar that need to be changed, too. I have found that if you modify that value, then open and save the bios in RaBiT, it will fix those things, though.

There is one reason that it was useful for me, though. By modifying that I was able to reduce the pipelines on my card so I could test it at X800 GT speeds.

[MrW]

I have a Sapphire X800GTO with a 480 core:
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gto7bt.jpg
Is unlocking possible or am I out of luck? Thanks.

[ShadowFlare]

I have a Sapphire X800GTO with a 480 core:
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gto7bt.jpg
Is unlocking possible or am I out of luck? Thanks.
Your bios is set to 12 pipelines, but based on the fuses data, it doesn't look like you will get any more pipelines if you flash the bios.

[MrW]

Is there a hard mod I could do? Can the pipes be physically re-connected, bypassing where they are cut?

[Sibic]

I have a Sapphire X800GTO with a 480 core:
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gto7bt.jpg
Is unlocking possible or am I out of luck? Thanks.

What kinda cooling do you have on your card with thoose speeds? And whats the temperature?

[MrW]

A Zalman Copper cooler.
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempm9od.jpg

[.:DemiaN:.]

Here is a pic of my card, any chance of mod the videocard??

[mrvomit]

It's not really that useful, since you can get the same effect without hex editing by just flashing the bios using methods that have been posted. Someone could ask the author of RaBiT to add that feature, though. That would make it easy for others to do the mod on the number of pixel pipelines. Especially since just modifying only that value is not all that should be done; there are CRC values, checksums, or something similar that need to be changed, too. I have found that if you modify that value, then open and save the bios in RaBiT, it will fix those things, though.

There is one reason that it was useful for me, though. By modifying that I was able to reduce the pipelines on my card so I could test it at X800 GT speeds.

but could be that be a safer way ,respect to a bios flash?

Speaking for me:
i don Have a pci videocard,and i could'nt resolve a bad bios -flash,
that's why i'm not tryng,though deep tempted.

if making that manually ,would be it safer ,what ya think?

[Sibic]

A Zalman Copper cooler.
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tempm9od.jpg

:twitch: Im ordering that as i type this :wtf:

[ShadowFlare]

Here is a pic of my card, any chance of mod the videocard??
Based on the information there it looks like you have a Powercolor X800 GT 256 MB, correct? Your bios is already set to 16 pipelines (since CONFIG_ROM_FUSES has zero for the last digit), so unlocking more is not possible by just flashing the bios.

but could be that be a safer way ,respect to a bios flash?

Speaking for me:
i don Have a pci videocard,and i could'nt resolve a bad bios -flash,
that's why i'm not tryng,though deep tempted.

if making that manually ,would be it safer ,what ya think?
You still have to flash the bios, so what's the difference? If a utility such as RaBiT included support for making that modification, that would be good, though.

[mrvomit]

ok i just thought ,th a MODIFIED original bios,would be better than a bios thought for another card ,just that.

i'm kinda afraid to flash the wrong bios ,i would have to buy another card as i don have any other pci -vga .

[ShadowFlare]

Just do this using atiflash 3.09:

1) Make a backup of your bios.
2) Flash to a 16 pipeline bios and use the -newbios option to override the number of pipelines.
3) Flash back to your original without the -newbios option to go back to your original bios, but keep the number of pipelines.

For example, if you want to save your bios as x800gto2.bin and you have downloaded an X850 XT bios and renamed it to x850xt.bin, the commands would be as follows:

atiflash -s 0 x800gto2.bin
atiflash -f -p 0 x850xt.bin -newbios
atiflash -f -p 0 x800gto2.bin

Heh, I've posted those same 3 steps quite a few times already. BTW, you need to do this from DOS, don't do it with Windows running.

That process will make a bios identical to if I had manually modified the bios to 16 pipelines.

One more thing I thought I should mention: since flashing the video bios is fairly quick (usually takes a second or less), there is less risk of having it messed up from a power outage than when flashing the motherboard bios.

[mrvomit]

im thinkinyou have r423 core but if im wrong the card could be badflashed and become a paperweight :(


as he told me that ,i'm kinda afraid.
is it safe to try if i have 480 or 423 either ?

What other bios ("newbios") i would have to try for my his x800gt?
an x850gt or what?
..from that site for example which one ? = http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/

i think i have to create a bootable diskette for those kind of flash utility if i'm not mistaking.

[.:DemiaN:.]

Based on the information there it looks like you have a Powercolor X800 GT 256 MB, correct? Your bios is already set to 16 pipelines (since CONFIG_ROM_FUSES has zero for the last digit), so unlocking more is not possible by just flashing the bios.

I Have a Powercolor X800GT 256Mb, its any chance of hardmod. The only option is overclock mem/core?

[ShadowFlare]

I Have a Powercolor X800GT 256Mb, its any chance of hardmod. The only option is overclock mem/core?
I think there is an article for that somewhere on this site.

BTW, since you have a Powercolor X800GT 256 MB, there is something else you could do to make it a little faster, besides just trying to unlock pipelines. Take a look here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=6056

[Magnum_]

Can someone please tell me if this card here is unlockable?

http://www.boereke.be/upload/x800gto.PNG

It's a connect3D x800 GTO from a German shop. I'm almost certain it cannot be unlocked...

The guy who sold it to me told me he was 100% certain this particular card would be unlockable to 16 pipelines. And I've tried some bioses with the 16P-modified flashrom, but no luck, it keeps stuck at 12 pipelines.

I'll take off the heatsink this afternoon to make sure, but ATItool says it's a R423.
Is there a way of unlocking it by hardware? I remember having a x800pro vivo that could be flashed by SW, and if I recall correctly, it was r423 as well. I don't get it...

[dolf]

Unfortynately NOT. It is locked, sorry for that information

[Magnum_]

Bah, that really sucks... I'm gonna sell this card I think. He has a gto² for sale as well, maybe I'll get a good price on that one...


Thank you for the information !

[dolf]

Yes it should be a good choice (GTO2). Take that card ;).