8800gs /9600gt 3dmark06 benchmark result thread

[trt740]

here it is and I for one bet they bench almost exactly the same, but we will see. Post your results here

[trt740]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080226/8800gs848.jpg

[divinebaboon]

why do you post this when candle posted this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=53028) already?

[trt740]

because it is for a specific benchmark and a moderator asked me to.

[Paulieg]

Yes, this is specifically for 3dmark06 scores. I suggest we model it after the official 3dmark06 thread, but ONLY for these two cards. Tom, do you mind starting the list of scores in your first post, and update them as they are posted?

[candle_86]

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5318369

8749

AMD X2

[marsey99]

candle can you rerun it and post a screen with cpuz and gpuz like trt's post, makes it easier to compare the results if all the info is presented.

edit

nice score btw trt, that 8 cores or 4?

[Tatty_One]

These cards are going very well for their price point and I have to say, they seem quite impressive, I was one of the first to jump on the bandwagon with "why bother with the 8800GS when the 9600GT is coming out the week after", this thread might just tell me why.........nice score Tom! :toast: that Xeon of your is doing better than mine! I cannot bench 2006 above 3.7gig ATM.

I was thinking of resurecting/starting a new 3D Mark 2005 thread, 2005 is much more GPU and much less CPU and is not quadcore biased, with all these new cards coming out I think 2005 would give a better impression of GPU power.......what U think????

[trt740]

Yes, this is specifically for 3dmark06 scores. I suggest we model it after the official 3dmark06 thread, but ONLY for these two cards. Tom, do you mind starting the list of scores in your first post, and update them as they are posted?

Wel, I would love two but I fear I would be a slacker due lack of time to update :)

[trt740]

candle can you rerun it and post a screen with cpuz and gpuz like trt's post, makes it easier to compare the results if all the info is presented.

edit

nice score btw trt, that 8 cores or 4?

ment to post gpu and accidently post double cpuz

[Paulieg]

These cards are going very well for their price point and I have to say, they seem quite impressive, I was one of the first to jump on the bandwagon with "why bother with the 8800GS when the 9600GT is coming out the week after", this thread might just tell me why.........nice score Tom! :toast: that Xeon of your is doing better than mine! I cannot bench 2006 above 3.7gig ATM.

I was thinking of resurecting/starting a new 3D Mark 2005 thread, 2005 is much more GPU and much less CPU and is not quadcore biased, with all these new cards coming out I think 2005 would give a better impression of GPU power.......what U think????

Tatty, that's a good idea. Would you mind being responsible for listing and editing the scores?

[Paulieg]

I'll have my 9600GT tonight, and I should have some initial 3dmark06 scores posted later.

[Solaris17]

i thought candles was sufficent...seeing as the first post was always modified.

[Tatty_One]

Tatty, that's a good idea. Would you mind being responsible for listing and editing the scores?

Glad we agree! I just think that 2005 is far more GPU performance geared than 2006, we all know that 2006 scores are dependant on how many cores etc, in 2005 the CPU's main part is to ensure that it's not bottlenecking the performance of the GPU so as you raise the CPU higher, the benefits get lower which is kind of the opposite to 2006 (as the seperate CPU score keeps increasing even when the GPU is maxed).......if you get my meaning.

I would be happy to start a thread and keep it updated, I am sure I could manage at least once a week, probably twice a week for updates.

I would propose not to seperate ATI and NVidia but just to have a single GPU and a multi GPU table...........any thoughts? I could do it tonight when I get home.

[candle_86]

I ran that score awhile back, and i cant give you a ss of 3dmark06 mine is the free leagal version and i wont crack it. The ORB lists everything of importance.

[Titus]

My score : 11864 points on 3D Mark 2006 ;)

Intel Core 2 Duo E 6750@ 3.4GHz, 8800GS@ 730/1000/1728.

http://service.futuremark.com/results/showSingleResult.action?resultId=5459802&resultType=14

[Tatty_One]

I ran that score awhile back, and i cant give you a ss of 3dmark06 mine is the free leagal version and i wont crack it. The ORB lists everything of importance.

So is mine, you just "print screen" and then copy and save it into paint.

[Titus]

I have the 3DM06 free version too ... result appears only online :mad:
The 03 and 05 were better for this : a simple " print screan " :D

[Tatty_One]

I have the 3DM06 free version too ... result appears only online :mad:
The 03 and 05 were better for this : a simple " print screan " :D

In my case, I just wait till I get the score showing in Orb, bring up GPU-Z and CPU-Z onto my screen and "Fn + F8" then paste it into Paint.....job done!

[Titus]

For me, this is the result :
http://www.korti.info/images/bench/3dm06_config.jpg
I named my score with ref and make it public.

NB : i reduced the pic' ( 1680X1050 stock :rolleyes: )

[Paulieg]

Ok guys, here ya go...over 13K on my first run. :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/080227/9600gt3dmark061.png

[Solaris17]

sweet PUSH IT!!! im stable at 1100 mem 740 core 1900shader

[Paulieg]

give me 10 minutes, I'm gonna do another run...

[Paulieg]

Second Run...looking good so far. I'm going for run a third, pushing the memory and shaders next time.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080227/9600gt3dmark061800.png

[Solaris17]

do it up!!

[Paulieg]

Last run of the night. Increased cpu to 3.7ghz.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080228/9600gt3dmark061.png

[Solaris17]

that is a nice score dude wicked nice...i need to go 775 :(

[Paulieg]

that is a nice score dude wicked nice...i need to go 775 :(

Tonight I'm going to do a run at 3.8ghz, and see if I can push the core speed and memory a bit more. I don't think I can do much more with the shaders...I'm shooting for 14K. One thing that amazes me is the temps. It idles at 32c and only made it to 57c during my last 3dmark06 run.

[Paulieg]

I'm hoping that eventually there will be a nice volt mod for this card...Solaris?? ;)

[trt740]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080226/8800gs848.jpg

thats very close to my top speed looks like you will beat me at 3.8ghz by about 300 to 500 points. I'm betting but remember I don't have a very good overclocking 8800 gs because I have the 1.4 ram not the 1.1 ram. Plus you do have more systems ram than I do for the CPU part of the test 4gb mine 2 gb. Your ram should do more than that Paul. My clock on the bench was 723 core/ 1825 shaders/ 1000. Still it looks like your have a slightly better card than I do so far. I posted my bench again so they can be compared with out flipping pages.

[Solaris17]

lol i dont understand why everyone is making this a huge compitition really...i mean ppl wanted the 8800GS to win and ppl wanted the 9600 to win but it will never be solved because no body has the same config...i used my proc as an example...and your ram isnt fast enough.....id say the cards are pretty much even...though i would lean more tword the 9600 because of the ram chips.....but if you have an 8800GS and a 9600GT next to each other with the same chips...though highely unlikely because i think the 9600 uses 1ns..but if they were the same...id just go for what ever one was cheaper...

[Paulieg]

lol i dont understand why everyone is making this a huge compitition really...i mean ppl wanted the 8800GS to win and ppl wanted the 9600 to win but it will never be solved because no body has the same config...i used my proc as an example...and your ram isnt fast enough.....id say the cards are pretty much even...though i would lean more tword the 9600 because of the ram chips.....but if you have an 8800GS and a 9600GT next to each other with the same chips...though highely unlikely because i think the 9600 uses 1ns..but if they were the same...id just go for what ever one was cheaper...

For me the competition is just fun. I never get worked up by any of it. It's just like all the benches we do around here. It's to see how good our hardware is, and how it compares to everyone else. The only time it's not fun is when people take the stuff way too serious. Getting back on topic, I think I might just break 14k by this weekend...:)

[Paulieg]

thats very close to my top speed looks like you will beat me at 3.8ghz by about 300 to 500 points. I'm betting but remember I don't have a very good overclocking 8800 gs because I have the 1.4 ram not the 1.1 ram. Plus you do have more systems ram than I do for the CPU part of the test 4gb mine 2 gb. Your ram should do more than that Paul. My clock on the bench was 723 core/ 1825 shaders/ 1000. Still it looks like your have a slightly better card than I do so far. I posted my bench again so they can be compared with out flipping pages.

I think I can probably go higher with the core too...maybe in the 800 range. I'll give it a shot tonight.

[trt740]

For me the competition is just fun. I never get worked up by any of it. It's just like all the benches we do around here. It's to see how good our hardware is, and how it compares to everyone else. The only time it's not fun is when people take the stuff way too serious. Getting back on topic, I think I might just break 14k by this weekend...:)



number one Paul might just be my best bud on this forum(him and Tatty ) so this will never get ugly it is totally for fun.

[Solaris17]

I think I can probably go higher with the core too...maybe in the 800 range. I'll give it a shot tonight.

acutally your getting close to the 900 range....gpu-z reads it a couple mhz off....740 in gpu-z is a little over 800mhx...750 is like 863...if you use rivatuner look at the monitor it will give you what the core is running at...you may be able to go higher but your getting real close to the cards limit...infact your kinda alerady at the standard limit any higher and its basically just depending on the silicon.



i really wish i had a core 2 thngs would be amazing then.

[Tatty_One]

number one Paul might just be my best bud on this forum(him and Tatty ) so this well never get ulgy it is totally for fun.

:D

[Paulieg]

number one Paul might just be my best bud on this forum(him and Tatty ) so this well never get ulgy it is totally for fun.

:toast: to good friends at tpu. :)

[Paulieg]

acutally your getting close to the 900 range....gpu-z reads it a couple mhz off....740 in gpu-z is a little over 800mhx...750 is like 863...if you use rivatuner look at the monitor it will give you what the core is running at...you may be able to go higher but your getting real close to the cards limit...infact your kinda alerady at the standard limit any higher and its basically just depending on the silicon.



i really wish i had a core 2 thngs would be amazing then.

Yeah, I meant to ask about the discrepancies b/t Rivatuner and gpu-z, then I went back and read some posts. I'll have to check Rivatuner tonight and see what it's truly running at. Well, to the limit then...hopefully I'll still squeeze a few mhz out of it. I am sure I can get a bit more out of the memory. I just went a little conservative, dropping the memory when I was getting some artifacts in 3dmark06. Come to find out it was the shaders causing the artifacts. The card didn't like 1998.

[Solaris17]

ya i tried pushing 2ghz shader it wouldnt it stable for me at 1900 not a mhz further.

[Tatty_One]

ya i tried pushing 2ghz shader it wouldnt it stable for me at 1900 not a mhz further.

Is there a softmod for a BIOS flash for the card, anyone know what stock volts are and what the hardware max is?

[Paulieg]

This is at 3.8ghz...still have some tweaking to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080228/9600gt3dmark061115.png

[Tatty_One]

This is at 3.8ghz...still have some tweaking to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080228/9600gt3dmark061115.png

VERY nice, especially from that Xeon! :toast:

[trt740]

For the record I increased the voltage with a soft mod with almost zero improvement in my stable 24/7 clock. I can run individual clocks higher like 780 core 24/7 with ram and shaders down at default etc, but if I mix the overclocking I get lock ups. This should not happen really all a 8800 gs is, is a 8800 gt with two ram chips removed and bus made smaller. It should do core 800 / shaders 1850/ ram 2000 but really will only do 700/1740/2000. The temps are really low even with the voltage mod. I think nivida did bios lock these cards. Bastards lol. At 680 to 700 and anyone who says different is not stressing their cards enough. Mine artifacts at anything higher than 700 when i mix the overclocking, yet individually my core runs stable a 780 etc, but before the bios flash it was only stable at 740 etc. The bios has been screwed with I can tell. If you think your stable at over 700 (significantly not 705) use atitools artifacting tool to stress your card then post a screen shot. I got to see it to believe it.

[trt740]

This is at 3.8ghz...still have some tweaking to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080228/9600gt3dmark061115.png

very nice, very nice indeed Paul your ram is on fire baby.

[trt740]

This is at 3.8ghz...still have some tweaking to do.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080228/9600gt3dmark061115.png

my cpu :laugh: :rolleyes:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080313/record 06.jpg

[Solaris17]

Is there a softmod for a BIOS flash for the card, anyone know what stock volts are and what the hardware max is?

max for the physical chip and mem appears to be ~860mhz core and 1100mhz for the memory with no volt mod....the voltages if i remember correctly range from 1.1idle to ramping up to 1.15 during stress the cards can reach ~1.4v core with a vmod...however a couple of us are having problems with OCP atm so the volt mod being stable is teh limited.

[Tatty_One]

max for the physical chip and mem appears to be ~860mhz core and 1100mhz for the memory with no volt mod....the voltages if i remember correctly range from 1.1idle to ramping up to 1.15 during stress the cards can reach ~1.4v core with a vmod...however a couple of us are having problems with OCP atm so the volt mod being stable is teh limited.

OCP kick in at 1.3V??

[Solaris17]

OCP kick in at 1.3V??

ppl are having alot of problems it seems referance ad reg cards differ alot some ppl cant make it past 1.15v without the card shutting down others can boot and game at 1.45..

[Creatre]

Still have some work to do, but not bad for running this 4 hours after putting it all together. :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080315/3dmark06_1.jpg

[isox]

For the record I increased the voltage with a soft mod with almost zero improvement in my stable 24/7 clock. I can run individual clocks higher like 780 core 24/7 with ram and shaders down at default etc, but if I mix the overclocking I get lock ups. This should not happen really all a 8800 gs is, is a 8800 gt with two ram chips removed and bus made smaller. It should do core 800 / shaders 1850/ ram 2000 but really will only do 700/1740/2000. The temps are really low even with the voltage mod. I think nivida did bios lock these cards. Bastards lol. At 680 to 700 and anyone who says different is not stressing their cards enough. Mine artifacts at anything higher than 700 when i mix the overclocking, yet individually my core runs stable a 780 etc, but before the bios flash it was only stable at 740 etc. The bios has been screwed with I can tell. If you think your stable at over 700 (significantly not 705) use atitools artifacting tool to stress your card then post a screen shot. I got to see it to believe it.

I didn't really get what you ment trt, but I did it ati tools for a couple of minutes until the temp line balanced out, while I was watching a movie and defragmenting my harddrives lol.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5442/proofjs0.th.png (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proofjs0.png)

[Solaris17]

intresting fact about the 9600 setries....the core seems to stick to the shaders alot if you clock the shaders down you can over coock the core more...not sure if it will help seeing as the shaders carry alot of the load but who knows thought id let you know....also 9600 owners the volt mod is coming out well just a few more problems to work out :)

[Creatre]

intresting fact about the 9600 setries....the core seems to stick to the shaders alot if you clock the shaders down you can over coock the core more...not sure if it will help seeing as the shaders carry alot of the load but who knows thought id let you know....also 9600 owners the volt mod is coming out well just a few more problems to work out :)

Woot woot, can't wait for that. :respect:

[Titus]

... if you clock the shaders down you can over coock the core more...not sure if it will help seeing as the shaders carry alot of the load but who knows thought id let you know....
+1;)
My scores are better with shaders @ 1782 than @ 1800 or more when my core is @ 730MHz.
And as this, it runs stable several hours on ATi Tools ... and not @ 1800 and more :D
More stab and more perfs ... :roll::rockout:

[trt740]

I didn't really get what you ment trt, but I did it ati tools for a couple of minutes until the temp line balanced out, while I was watching a movie and defragmenting my harddrives lol.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5442/proofjs0.th.png (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proofjs0.png)

yes that says no error 3 minutes thats hardly stable plus you can barely read it. :rolleyes:

[Titus]

When i push shaders, i've artefacts since 7min @ 1825 and 15min @ 1800.

As said on the forum, it's possible running stable at high core clocks but only if you don't push the over values.
As this, running stable at 730 MHz core clock is possible if you're not greedy on shader clock ( only 1782 for me ).

Bios editing and flashing can resolve some problems too :)

[isox]

Here is my awesome score, check out that hot vcore.
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7986/11576fk9.th.png (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11576fk9.png)

and seriously guys show the resolution size, i know some of u guys do it in 640x480.

[Titus]

I see you're @ 740 core clock.
Is it running stable on several hours on ATi Tool ?
I tried your clocks and i've artefacts after only 5 seconds !

I run around 12000 points on 3DM06 in 1280X1024 ( standard parameters of basic version ) with my 8800 GS. It's not a rare score with this card.
Some ones hit 13000 and more points :eek:

[isox]

I have not tested my card for several hours on ati tools, I just run it until the temperature line balances out which takes from 3-10 minutes depending on the ambient temp. This is about the max for my card, anymore it will artifact.
I try to set my clocks so that not even a single yellow artifact shows even though there is no error.

If I ran my card for several hours on ati tools the life expectancy of the card will be greatly decreased, thats like playing crysis for a month nonstop. I wouldn't want to harm my precious like that :eek: and plus its only for benchmarking, i use 580/700 for default so I know its stable.

Congrats on your 12,000, I think my cpu might be holding me back, but then again the 8800gs does not perform so well on high resolutions.

[trt740]

I have not tested my card for several hours on ati tools, I just run it until the temperature line balances out which takes from 3-10 minutes depending on the ambient temp. This is about the max for my card, anymore it will artifact.
I try to set my clocks so that not even a single yellow artifact shows even though there is no error.

If I ran my card for several hours on ati tools the life expectancy of the card will be greatly decreased, thats like playing crysis for a month nonstop. I wouldn't want to harm my precious like that :eek: and plus its only for benchmarking, i use 580/700 for default so I know its stable.

Congrats on your 12,000, I think my cpu might be holding me back, but then again the 8800gs does not perform so well on high resolutions.

680/800 will be stable the overclocked card and yours are identical I falshed my card with it's bios.

[Titus]

680/800 will be stable the overclocked card and yours are identical I falshed my card with it's bios.

Yes, and that's the only differents between standard and O/C versions !!
I 've looked at the 2 XFX bios and they are similar : V-Core, memory timings etc ...

All 8800GS can be flashed in xXx version ;)

If someone want a 100% stable bios, i can upload mine ( 710/1000/1728 ) which scores better than higher clocks bios :eek: ( recognize in riva tuner as a linked 712.8 /1728 bios ).
Voltages are standard with a 58°C max temp in my case after several hours of benches, games and ATi Tool ( stable certified ;) ).
I'll try to edit this bios and find finest clocks. But 710/1000/1728 is full stable. Shaders are my OC bottleneck :banghead:

[isox]

This is hilarious Titus, you say your 710/1000 is 100% stable but for my card it crashes my system in a heartbeat, but then for my stable settings, your comp crashes in a heartbeat :roll:

my memory can only go up to 960 before it starts hiccuping, but my gpu seems to go higher than the average 8800gs, max 755.

[Titus]

This is hilarious Titus, you say your 710/1000 is 100% stable but for my card it crashes my system in a heartbeat, but then for my stable settings, your comp crashes in a heartbeat :roll:

my memory can only go up to 960 before it starts hiccuping, but my gpu seems to go higher than the average 8800gs, max 755.

:laugh::roll::laugh: sorry, i forgot my luck for memory chips :o
So, give a 8800GT :D That's what i'll do next ( or a G92 GTS if its price down ).
The XFX 8800GS is a real lottery : it seems to be an asembling of the worse 8800 chips ( core and memory ) ... i understand why 8800 GS is a limited model ( about sold items, not about perf ;) ) .
We have to keep in mind that 8800 GS is buit around a defficient G92 chip.

[isox]

New score 3dmark06 score 11814.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5173/11814gi4.th.png (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11814gi4.png)

Settings: If anybody wants to know, try em if you want to blow your pc up.

Voltages
MCH +0.4V
PCI-E +0.1V
FSB +0.1V
VMEM 2.2V
VCORE 1.80V

XFX 8800GS
PCI-E 120mhz
GPU 750
GPU MEM 955
GPU SHADER 1850

CPU E2180
3.67ghz

Just got the new memory that boosted my score up 200 points
Mushkin HP2 4-5-4-11 ddr2 800
Set at 4-4-4-11 800

[trt740]

:laugh::roll::laugh: sorry, i forgot my luck for memory chips :o
So, give a 8800GT :D That's what i'll do next ( or a G92 GTS if its price down ).
The XFX 8800GS is a real lottery : it seems to be an asembling of the worse 8800 chips ( core and memory ) ... i understand why 8800 GS is a limited model ( about sold items, not about perf ;) ) .
We have to keep in mind that 8800 GS is buit around a defficient G92 chip.

and you know this from what source? I'm not sure your right I believe they are just making a different card the Gpu seems the same as my old 8800gts but it appears they driver locked the card. Now my ram is somewhat slower. Still this card will kill a x1900 series and 7900 series cards. Thats hardly a bad card for 109.00. It maxes every game I own on high settings at 1400x900. This card is more than enough, two in sli would just be unreal bang for the buck for 218.00.

[Titus]

and you know this from what source? I'm not sure your right I believe they are just making a different card the Gpu seems the same as my old 8800gts but it appears they driver locked the card. Now my ram is somewhat slower. Still this card will kill a x1900 series and 7900 series cards. Thats hardly a bad card for 109.00. It maxes every game I own on high settings at 1400x900. This card is more than enough, two in sli would just be unreal bang for the buck for 218.00.

Hi TRT :)
I opened the two bios ( XFX standard and xXx version ) in NiBiTor and looked at parameters.
Except clocks values, all is similar : memory timings, core voltage ...

I never found a driver limit in my card.
May be the xXx version has a selected GPU, as CPU makers do : the best CPUs go to high end range ( ex : C2D 6850 ) the overs to most " popular " ranges.
The 8800 GS 's G92 is a 8800 GT's G92 wich is defficient ( shaders dead, not stable at GT standard clocks ... ). A way for Nvidia to sell more GPUs and make profitable its production.

When i see so differents between OC potential for the same card model ( XFX standard in my exemple ) i can't believe in a driver limited factor.
That's why i think all XFX standard could be flashed in xXx version ; it's not a great evolution.

[trt740]

Hi TRT :)
I opened the two bios ( XFX standard and xXx version ) in NiBiTor and looked at parameters.
Except clocks values, all is similar : memory timings, core voltage ...

I never found a driver limit in my card.
May be the xXx version has a selected GPU, as CPU makers do : the best CPUs go to high end range ( ex : C2D 6850 ) the overs to most " popular " ranges.
The 8800 GS 's G92 is a 8800 GT's G92 wich is defficient ( shaders dead, not stable at GT standard clocks ... ). A way for Nvidia to sell more GPUs and make profitable its production.

When i see so differents between OC potential for the same card model ( XFX standard in my exemple ) i can't believe in a driver limited factor.
That's why i think all XFX standard could be flashed in xXx version ; it's not a great evolution.

Your gpu core should do 780 with good cooling all 8800gs are driver locked. Thats why they error near 710(some will do slightly more but hardly any will, a 8800gs has basically a 8800 gt core and they will do well over 720 core speed. Also my card is flashed to a XXX my gpu never goes over 45c . There is no way it should only do around 710 on the core. I even modded my bios adding voltage and still error around 710 with artifacting. Also This is not my summation read wizzards review on the 8800gs cards. He also believe theses card are driver locked.

[Titus]

OK, i believed you was talking about driver limit on some cards which can't pass 680 MHz for core clock ;)

I think too that NVidia has limited this card's perf by drivers : it's a G92 chip but wich can't accept the last drivers ( " device not compatible " with last versions :cry: ).

May be someone will make beta drivers for this card :respect:

[Titus]

New top score @ 12222 points (http://service.futuremark.com/resultAnalyzer.action?resultId=6145176&resultType=14) in 3DM06 :D

That's the top score with similar CPU ( E6750 ).
Better scores with that card were done with SLi solution ( passed 13000 points ) or E8200 CPU.

I pushed clocks @ 735/1000/1836 MHz but if it passed 3DM06, it froze on AM03 :cry:

End of my bench story ...