What do I need for nVidia GeForce 9600GT

[lakeoffire800]

Is it possible to put a nVidia GeForce 9600GT card into my computer and if not then what will I need to upgrade if its possible

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: RC494AV-ABA s7600e
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 958MB RAM
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[Solaris17]

well first off...your going to need a new psu if its the stock 1...2 the case s prob to small. 3 you sure it has a pci-e slot i help my bud at BB and alot of those prebuilts dont have a pci-e slot it helps cut costs..

[lakeoffire800]

Do you think it would it cost alot if I just went to best buy and let them do it?

[BrooksyX]

Do you think it would it cost alot if I just went to best buy and let them do it?

:roll:

Best Buy will charge you a crazy amount to do it. You would be much better off doing it yourself and probably spend less than half of what bestbuy would charge you.

[Solaris17]

best buy would make it uber expensive i have seen the same psu's for example that they carry for more than half the price on newegg..if i was you....id buy a new case...and a new 500w+ psu with 25A on the +12v rail...and you should be good....that will be all it would take really...but let me check your mobo real quick to see if you have a slot\



hmm i didnt find it at all...damn propritary mobo...lakeoffire would you know if it had a pci-e x16 slot?

[Darren]

Do you think it would it cost alot if I just went to best buy and let them do it?

We can't say, only Best Buy can give you an official quote, but in my experience it's quicker and cheaper to do it yourself, plus you get all the self satisfaction.

Is the 9600 GT for gaming specifically, if so what games are you intending on playing, if your budget can stretch further you may want to consider a 8800 GT. Download an application called "CPUZ" it will tell you everything about your systems specification and report back to us the findings. Until you tell us what motherboard you have we can not determine if you have a PCI express slot as new graphics cards like the 9600 GT require such a slot.

CPUZ can be downloaded from http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Ibut I believe you do not have a PCI-E or an AGP slot.

Although I respect your findings, but isn't it convention for all motherboards to have expansion slots whether AGP or PCI Express, it can't be missing both.

[Paulieg]

I can't find anything definate in my searches, but I believe you do not have a PCI-E or an AGP slot. I think you just have on board graphics, which means no upgrading to a new video card. The guys at Best Buy would tell you this after they charged you $40 to inspect your system. You're out of luck man. You need a new system.

[Solaris17]

I can't find anything definate in my searches, but I believe you do not have a PCI-E or an AGP slot. I think you just have on board graphics, which means no upgrading to a new video card. The guys at Best Buy would tell you this after they charged you $40 to inspect your system. You're out of luck man. You need a new system.

and that just goes to show yiou...bb rips ppl off they will charge you 40 to insoect your system woul;d u like to know how long they'll be looking at it?..about 15sec.

[lakeoffire800]

So I cant upgrade at all?

[Paulieg]

and that just goes to show yiou...bb rips ppl off they will charge you 40 to insoect your system woul;d u like to know how long they'll be looking at it?..about 15sec.

They prey upon noobs. I tell potential clients over the phone whether their computer will take a video card or not...and charge $0 for it.

[Solaris17]

So I cant upgrade at all?


yes

[ShadowFold]

My old M-ATX HP case held my rosewill psu and HD 3850 fine.

[Paulieg]

One way to be sure. Open up your case, and check to see if you have a PCI-E or AGP slot above your pci slots. If you don't, there is no place for a video card to go.

[Paulieg]

My old M-ATX HP case held my rosewill psu and HD 3850 fine.

Well, the issue is that I'm pretty sure his board does not have a PCI-E or AGP slot, so case size is irrevevant.

[Solaris17]

PCI Express Capability
Offset 80h
Device type Root Port of PCI-E Root Complex
Port 0 (usually means theirs only 1 slot)
Version 1.0 (pci-e x16 slot)
Physical slot #0 (usually the first slot if reads 0)
Presence detect no
Link width 16x (max 16x)

[ShadowFold]

well I know for a fact that those stock 300w HP psu's can power a 8600GT :)

[Darren]

lakeoffire800, the documentation is ambiguous and it's unclear whether you have a vacant PCI Express slot, I'm even confused about the motherboard manufacture as no Google search can find anything. HP most probably built the computer on the cheap, super cheap in fact. Your best bet is to open the case and take a few pictures and we would no for sure.

Assuming your computer doesn't have a PCI express or AGP slot you will need a new motherboard that supports PCI Express, in which event Tech Power Up will make it our duty to guide you on a compatible PSU, motherboard, and graphics within budget.

Edit:
You would think so, but I've recently worked on several Dell P4 systems built in 2003, that have neither expansion slots. The big pre-built companies want you to throw away and buy a new system rather than give you an upgrade path.

Bloody hell, whats wrong with these companies they're the PC market a bad name.

[Paulieg]

We can't say, only Best Buy can give you an official quote, but in my experience it's quicker and cheaper to do it yourself, plus you get all the self satisfaction.

Is the 9600 GT for gaming specifically, if so what games are you intending on playing, if your budget can stretch further you may want to consider a 8800 GT. Download an application called "CPUZ" it will tell you everything about your systems specification and report back to us the findings. Until you tell us what motherboard you have we can not determine if you have a PCI express slot as new graphics cards like the 9600 GT require such a slot.

CPUZ can be downloaded from http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php



Although I respect your findings, but isn't it convention for all motherboards to have expansion slots whether AGP or PCI Express, it can't be missing both.

You would think so, but I've recently worked on several Dell P4 systems built in 2003, that have neither expansion slots. The big pre-built companies want you to throw away and buy a new system rather than give you an upgrade path.

[Solaris17]

lakeoffire800, the documentation is ambiguous and it's unclear whether you have a vacant PCI Express slot, I'm even confused about the motherboard manufacture as no Google search can find anything. HP most probably built the computer on the cheap, super cheap in fact. Your best bet is to open the case and take a few pictures and we would no for sure.

Assuming your computer doesn't have a PCI express or AGP slot you will need a new motherboard that supports PCI Express, in which event Tech Power Up will make it our duty to guide you on a compatible PSU, motherboard, and graphics within budget.

+ 1 on that its basically the reason im here kinda like a job

[Paulieg]

PCI Express Capability
Offset 80h
Device type Root Port of PCI-E Root Complex
Port 0 (usually means theirs only 1 slot)
Version 1.0 (pci-e x16 slot)
Physical slot #0 (usually the first slot if reads 0)
Presence detect no
Link width 16x (max 16x)

Did you find this info for his system? Where did you locate it? I looked all over the place for it.

[Solaris17]

You would think so, but I've recently worked on several Dell P4 systems built in 2003, that have neither expansion slots. The big pre-built companies want you to throw away and buy a new system rather than give you an upgrade path.

thisd much is true iv helped my buddy in BB fix a rig once he couldnt figure it out so when i went over to buy some blank dvd's he called me over and was like come in the back real quick so i did and looked at the system in question and as i looked it was a new compaq not to ald...had a single core conroe a gig of ddr2 80gig hdd and 2 pci slots with an nvidia 6200 or somthing in it...i was like wtf?...but alas the problem was the sata cable their was some sort of stuff in it.

[Solaris17]

Did you find this info for his system? Where did you locate it? I looked all over the place for it.

in his cpu-z report.

it looks like he has 4 slots on his pci hub 3 of which are pci one of witch is pci-e

[lakeoffire800]

so now what needs to be upgraded if I have a pci-e compatible computer?

[ShadowFold]

A new motherboard

[Paulieg]

so now what needs to be upgraded if I have a pci-e compatible computer?

Your psu, and make sure your case is big enough for the 9600gt. It's a fairly long card.

[Solaris17]

well if your mobo does infact have a pci-e slot....you need to see if your case can hold a long card...youll have to measure from the back were u screw the card in to the first thing it could hit like an hdd etc....if it will fit fine good..if not youll need a new case...and most deff a new psu is alerady on the board.

damn paul beat me too it no fair

[Paulieg]

Did you find this info for his system? Where did you locate it? I looked all over the place for it.

:slap: me LOL

[Solaris17]

its ok paul your own embarrassment is punishment enough.

[Paulieg]

well if your mobo does infact have a pci-e slot....you need to see if your case can hold a long card...youll have to measure from the back were u screw the card in to the first thing it could hit like an hdd etc....if it will fit fine good..if not youll need a new case...and most deff a new psu is alerady on the board.

damn paul beat me too it no fair

LOL. Trying to make up for the fact that I missed the pci-e info on the cpu-z report.

[Solaris17]

LOL



this has to be the most wastefull post iv ever posted i just want that noted i just found it necessary to reply to you. At the time i had found your last reply extremely amusing.

[lakeoffire800]

any recommendations for a new psu?

[Paulieg]

any recommendations for a new psu?

That's tough. You will be limited by the size of your case. Many of the better psu's will be too big to fit in your case. This may be one of the only times I suggest buying local at a microcenter etc. You'll need to see what actually fits.

[Darren]

any recommendations for a new psu?

Assuming you have a standard ATX case any power supply should fit. If your on a budget don't pay attention to brand names and ensure it's atleast 500 watts with a 20-Pin connector 4-Pin Connector.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817162017 - $33.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171018 - $49.99