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novacheck
03-04-2008, 05:08 AM
I have an ICS954141CFLF. I have tried some various clockgens in systool, and the closest I can get that will actually read my specs is ICS954123. Now I don't want to try to set anything, as I don't want to mess anything up. Do you know of any software that can read my clockgen? Anything I can try? I have read before of someone overclocking on an older d845, but I wasn't sure if anything can be done on this one. I do plan on upgrading my specs later on down the road, but for right now, I would like to get the most out of my system. Thanks to all that wants to help.

Frogger
03-04-2008, 05:15 AM
intel MB's are a b*tch read this it has worked for some http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=96648&highlight=Intel+D945GNT

JrRacinFan
03-04-2008, 05:16 AM
Try out none other than Clockgen. Then while you are doing PLL setup make sure "Ignore GSB/PCI" is checked.

off-topic: Which part of Ohio yah from?

novacheck
03-04-2008, 05:23 AM
Mechanicsburg.

Yeah, I tried that earlier, but my system froze. However I didn't check "Ignore GSB/PCI". Also, when trying this, does it matter what OS I am running? I did it in Vista x64. But I also dual boot with XP Pro x86.

JrRacinFan
03-04-2008, 05:27 AM
It really shouldn't matter, but since it it is tried and proven with XP Pro, why not do your experimenting there? Also, don't do a "start with windows",
previously I have done it and it FUBAR'd one of my installations. Mind you this was on rig #2 right after I put it together.

off-topic: Mechanicsburg?! PM me with what you mean ....

novacheck
03-04-2008, 05:29 AM
Sorry for lack of PM, I don't have AIM. I use Windows Live.

novacheck
03-04-2008, 05:59 AM
I have tried using ITK before, but I didn't do it right, I guess. It never worked for me. But, I think I see where I may have gone wrong. I will give it a shot again. Thanks, Frogger.

novacheck
03-04-2008, 06:02 AM
off-topic: Which part of Ohio yah from?


Mechanicsburg. About 20 miles west of Columbus, and 12 miles northeast of Springfield.

novacheck
03-04-2008, 06:34 AM
I just tried the ITK again. It has been a while since I tried it last. There are no options in the chipset config page to enable overclocking. Just burn in mode. That is what I tried last time, but it didn't work. Any ideas? Is it possible to hack a bios to enable the features, or is it board dependant?

novacheck
03-04-2008, 06:55 AM
I guess it is not possible to use clockgen for this board. Everytime I try it, my system freezes. Even if I only take it up a few mhz. So, if there are any more ideas, I would be glad to hear them. How about hard mods for the mobo? I am not afraid to solder. Volt mods? I would try the bsel mod on the processor, but I am afraid I would waste all that time for nothing. I would like to try other things first.

Sorry to waste your time on this, but someone has to try to figure things out, and let others know what can and can't be done.

novacheck
03-06-2008, 01:11 AM
Don't bother any more. Gonna get a new MB. Thanks, though.

JrRacinFan
03-06-2008, 01:36 AM
Ygpm nova!

Frogger
03-06-2008, 01:43 AM
Don't bother any more. Gonna get a new MB. Thanks, though.
:cool:prob your best bet just stay away from intel mb's the bios suck

novacheck
03-06-2008, 01:52 AM
I had to learn it the hard way. But what can I say, it was free. I couldn't agree more

SirKeldon
03-06-2008, 01:54 AM
I think we should do a list of "most overclockable things", including mo-bo's (specially brands and chipsets), cpu's (intel or amd) and of course, ram's, (graphical cards will be optional) ... but since i submerged into the overclocking i think it will be important to have a reference of what you'll get before buying, and not just technical specs :)

novacheck
03-06-2008, 03:02 AM
I agree. Though I wouldn't be much help. I just started getting into the hardware of PC's. I have been into software, and programming for a while now. I know of one to add to the list of NOT overclockable!!

SirKeldon
03-06-2008, 03:12 AM
I agree. Though I wouldn't be much help. I just started getting into the hardware of PC's. I have been into software, and programming for a while now. I know of one to add to the list of NOT overclockable!!

Just like me, joined to this computer world when i was 4 ... now i'm 24 ... most of the time i'm a programmer (script or compiled), graphic designer and pc fan to use it in all senses, but i never joined to the hardware at this level and it's addictive, trust me, it would be helpful for my engineering studies, that's for sure, practice means everything :D

novacheck
03-06-2008, 03:14 AM
practice means everything :D
Very true. I would like to learn as much as I can. Even if I don't use it for personal gain, I would be able to help someone out. That is my ultimate goal. I love helping people. And I help out in whatever way possible. Keep that in mind, guys!!!

novacheck
03-08-2008, 06:56 AM
I guess it wasn't such a stupid question after all. I ran speedfan, and generated a report.

- Thermal Monitor and Software Controlled Clock Supported : yes

Here is a copy of the entire file, for whoever would like to look through it.

So, maybe it is possible after all. Who know's.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 07:37 AM
There is a little program called cpucool. It has my clockgen listed. I haven't tried it yet, I would like to get your opinions first. It autoreads my frequencies accurately, and even tells me that my pll accepts autotuning.

JrRacinFan
03-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Who would have though one of the older programs would have worked. Good luck. Oh also, check into an app called memset. You may need it.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 07:58 AM
I made it to a whopping 1.7 ghz before my system crashed. Oh, well. But, hey, it worked. Ha Ha.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 09:08 AM
Ok, the furthest I have made it was 1784.40 Mhz. Any higher, and the system crashes. Is it just a board limitation, or could it be ram timings, or even that it adjusts everything, fsb, pci, etc.? It is getting late, and I need to go to bed now. Should I try to talk to W1zzard? If there is anyway I can get the info to get the PLL into clockgen, I will do it. I don't mind what it takes, as long as I have everything necessary to do it. I feel like I can get a little more out of it. My FSB only went to 223. I have two ram setting in my bios, 400mhz, and 533. I tried them both, and tried to fiddle with the ram timings, but that is slightly out of my ballpark. If anybody has any suggestions, I would be happy to try them out. As long as I can be told how to do it, I can do it. Feel free to post. Thanks again, and good night.

JrRacinFan
03-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Try pulling it down to 400mhz, and then get back into Windows and see what you can do from there.

p_o_s_pc
03-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Mechanicsburg. About 20 miles west of Columbus, and 12 miles northeast of Springfield.

damn ur close to me.

Do you have any overclocking in the BIOS?

cdawall
03-08-2008, 03:00 PM
pin mod

JrRacinFan
03-08-2008, 03:02 PM
I was just thinking that too cdawall. A BSEL mod may be at hand.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 03:11 PM
No overclocking in Bios. Just burn-in mode. Never figured that one out. Anyway, even at 400 mhz, I couldn't really get anyfurther. Just about 700mhz on the processor.

How are you guys liking this weather? lol. Gotta love Ohio.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 03:15 PM
I was just thinking that too cdawall. A BSEL mod may be at hand.

I was thinking that also, but, would my board handle it? the furthest I could get my fsb without it was 223. With the bsel, do you think that would make the difference for it to get 266?

JrRacinFan
03-08-2008, 03:28 PM
Yes, but you also have to think, your board would also have a higher bootstrap after the mod. So it may like it.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Gotcha, is it possible that, with cpucool, it also increased my pci clock, and that is what held me back? Or would that matter?

Also, some recent links for it? It has been almost a year since I last read about it.

JrRacinFan
03-08-2008, 03:42 PM
That's what I am thinking about the PCI clocks. Also, how many add-on cards are you using?

novacheck
03-08-2008, 07:00 PM
None, now. I had redone the cooling on my 8500gt, and now I can't fit my sound card in, so I am using onboard audio.

rangerone766
03-08-2008, 07:33 PM
off topic but i'm so suprized at how many ohio peeps we have here. im in cincy and really getting tired of shoveling snow. its still coming down, got another 2 or 3 inches since i shoveled last a few hours ago.

novacheck
03-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Tell me about it. Got some pics of it up here if you want to see.

novacheck
03-09-2008, 05:23 PM
Well, after it was all said and done, we got 21" of snow in the past couple of days. There are 7'-8' drifts in alot of places. Gotta love this Ohio weather, huh?

Well, I have ran out of things to try. It might be a few days before I try the Bsel mod. The one thing I worry about with that, though, is that my mobo won't handle it. However, it did get up to a 226 fsb pretty easily, but the program I had to use, raised the frequency of EVERYthing. It didn't give me a lockout option to just raise the fsb. But, the bsel will only affect the fsb, won't it? And, will that FORCE the mobo to run at 1066? Or will it just default to 800?

JrRacinFan
03-09-2008, 09:14 PM
It would bootstrap everything to 1066.

novacheck
03-10-2008, 03:45 AM
Another noob question. Everything, as in fsb and ram? Or is there more to it?

novacheck
03-10-2008, 06:27 AM
I just tried it. It didn't work. Fans came on full blast, and it didn't even post. No video, no audio, nothing. Damn thing sounded like a jet taking off.:twitch::twitch: So I guess there are no options for this mobo. God, I can't wait to pick up this new board. I really want to see what this processor can do. I don't suppose there would be any type of hardmod for this motherboard that could help it be stable any higher than 226 fsb, would there?:confused:

JrRacinFan
03-10-2008, 07:04 AM
No offense, NC, but that really effin sux! There is no more information I can help you out with, unless someone else knows about hardmodding motherboards.

novacheck
03-10-2008, 07:12 AM
No offense taken, JR. I totally agree. But, on the other hand, the only program I have found that has my pll, is cpufsb, and cpucool. When I set my memory to 400mhz, I have gotten as far as this.


http://img.techpowerup.org/080310/Capture005.jpg

I know my temps were high in the pic. I don't usually see them that high, and it wasn't the overclock that did it. Dumbass me forgot to plug the cooling fan back in. I was wondering why the temps were slowly rising. :)