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goober
03-05-2008, 12:17 AM
My system specs are in their usual place, i dont know which version of Windows i should install to utilize the 4gb memory that i have, Windows XP 64Bit with the DX10 fix OR Windows Vista 64Bit?

Jelle Mees
03-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Vista X64, 3 reasons:
- Vista Superfetch
- More compatible software/drivers/hardware
- DirectX 10

I wouldn't rush in to buying Vista though...ok, you can't use all 4GB of ram, but performance in XP is still WAY better and 2.8-3.5GB is more then enough for XP X86...

goober
03-05-2008, 03:30 PM
I dont need to pay for either version of them because i got them from my school through the MSDN alliance, and my friend install 64bit Vista and he says "its been running great and with no issues." i know i would get more performance but i just wanted a second (maybe more) opinions.

boogerlad
03-05-2008, 03:36 PM
there is no dx10 patch for windows xp. go with vista x64

Triprift
03-05-2008, 03:36 PM
Definitly vista x64 in addition to what jm said youll get full access to ur 4 gig youll also have sp1 coming up pretty soon. And youll also have proper dx10 not the close too one.

goober
03-05-2008, 03:40 PM
i bet you 20 bucks there is a DX10 Patch for XP

Triprift
03-05-2008, 03:42 PM
At best ya can get near to dx10 under xp.

goober
03-05-2008, 03:42 PM
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp-from-alky-project/

Triprift
03-05-2008, 03:44 PM
yes ive heard of that believe me man full dx 10 is vista exclusive.

kenkickr
03-05-2008, 03:48 PM
I bet the DX10 patch for XP runs just as good as Halo 2 on XP...crap!!! I have used Vista Home Premium x64 now for 1yr and I have had only one software/hardware issue. The issue was PowerISO wouldn't let me mount anything. Called them up and found they had several complaints about so they made a new one and so far so good(switched to Dameon Tools lite, works much better). From everybody I chat with at work it seems the issues they have with Vista are they are just affraid to switch. Yes it is not as fast when you purchase a system from Worst Buy or Circle Jerk City but with my system I cannot tell performance wise from the nice XP systems that come in with Quad cores which one is faster. I don't PLAY benchmarks because I don't care what synthetics have to tell me.

Jelle Mees
03-05-2008, 03:48 PM
http://www.technospot.net/blogs/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp-from-alky-project/

Still haven't seen it actually working...

goober
03-05-2008, 04:11 PM
so i should go with 64bit Vista?

Darknova
03-05-2008, 04:23 PM
Alky project died because they said it was impossible to finish.

No DX10 in XP...ever.

Jelle Mees
03-05-2008, 04:41 PM
so i should go with 64bit Vista?

Yes.

Lillebror
03-05-2008, 04:45 PM
It isent possible for dx10 to work in xp, cause of some driver architecture stuff, thats only exist in the vista driver framework

Ben Clarke
03-05-2008, 04:54 PM
I just downloaded the DX10 hack thing... Windows detects DX10 now, and I've just played Crysis... and saw stuff I never sawbefore installing it... I'd say it works.

Darknova
03-05-2008, 04:58 PM
I just downloaded the DX10 hack thing... Windows detects DX10 now, and I've just played Crysis... and saw stuff I never sawbefore installing it... I'd say it works.

Link?

kylew
03-05-2008, 05:00 PM
My system specs are in their usual place, i dont know which version of Windows i should install to utilize the 4gb memory that i have, Windows XP 64Bit with the DX10 fix OR Windows Vista 64Bit?

Vista 64Bit all the way, I've been using 64Bit ultimate for about 5 months now, and vista ultimate in general since its release, there isn't that much of a difference performance wise now, the difference I've found is equivalent to a margin of error (I'm not saying it IS a margin of error mind). I went 64bit for 4GB of ram, and now I'm looking to double up to 8GB in the next few months or so. :D

Ben Clarke
03-05-2008, 05:01 PM
There was one above somewhere - downloaded and it works... here's a screenshot of DXDIAG:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080305/DXDIAG.jpg

exodusprime1337
03-05-2008, 05:39 PM
how do i install this alky thing ben?

tzitzibp
03-05-2008, 05:55 PM
Alky project died because they said it was impossible to finish.

No DX10 in XP...ever.

+1

go with vista 64:rockout:
I recently installed it and I must say I am impressed... to give you an example 3dmark06 in xp I managed 12526, in vista 32 I did 11714 and vista 64 ult. 12512 :rockout:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1394/__15.jpg

I think that memory utilization is by far the best I have seen....
xp 64 caused my system many many problems.... especially incompatibilities!:banghead:

Ben Clarke
03-05-2008, 05:56 PM
how do i install this alky thing ben?

Yeah, it's not our language :p

Just run thwe .exe, then keep clicking the second button, and the radio box that corresponds to "Agree". When it's done, restart, and voila.

FatForester
03-05-2008, 06:23 PM
Yea, go with Vista 64. I've had no issues with it and it has come a long way from its release. As far as XP and Crysis / DX10, you can edit the config files to enable "Very High" which gives you most of the DX10 features and textures. Before I installed Vista I did it, and it ran beautifully.

exodusprime1337
03-05-2008, 07:19 PM
Yeah, it's not our language :p

Just run thwe .exe, then keep clicking the second button, and the radio box that corresponds to "Agree". When it's done, restart, and voila.

i tried that and it worked but the cascades demo still fails and in the crisis console it's detected as no dx10 card available??

exodusprime1337
03-05-2008, 07:20 PM
i'm thinking about moving to vista 64 as well. will not having 4 gigs of mem kill me?? will the peroformance still be better the xp 32bit? or at least within a comparable range??

Ben Clarke
03-05-2008, 07:23 PM
Hmm... I didn't check that, but I get the DX10 effects anyway... maybe it says that if you don't have Vista.

cincybengal
03-05-2008, 07:34 PM
The PC listed in my specs is my first desktop in about 15 yrs (been using laptops). I installed Vista 64bit in this build and have been very pleased with the results. I did have some initial heartburn: had to reinstall Vista because drivers that are native would not load. Reinstall fixed all of that, and my ram would not run at spec, had to lower it to 667 mgz. Even being a relative noob, though, I really like Vista and have upgraded one of my laptops to Vista 32bit. Personally I have not had any network issues and I have two XP32 laptops and 1 Vista 32 laptop on network with Vista 64 desktop. My wife has been using the Vista laptop and wants one for herself now. The interface is just better. Vista is only going to get better as well since MS will support it more than XP in the near future.

Ravenas
03-05-2008, 07:37 PM
i'm thinking about moving to vista 64 as well. will not having 4 gigs of mem kill me?? will the peroformance still be better the xp 32bit? or at least within a comparable range??

No you will be fine, 2 gb is plenty. Of course people say 4 gb, but Vista 64 doesn't actually use all of the 4gb of ram. I've been using Vista 64 with only 2gb of Tracer ram, works great!

exodusprime1337
03-05-2008, 07:39 PM
good deal then ravenas, i'm gonna upgrade right now lol.

bassmasta
03-05-2008, 07:42 PM
it makes me curious as to why noone has recommended pae in x32 yet.

kylew
03-05-2008, 08:25 PM
it makes me curious as to why noone has recommended pae in x32 yet.

That's because it doesn't really work properly, 32bit is still restricted to addressing 4GB of ram. :)

kylew
03-05-2008, 08:27 PM
No you will be fine, 2 gb is plenty. Of course people say 4 gb, but Vista 64 doesn't actually use all of the 4gb of ram. I've been using Vista 64 with only 2gb of Tracer ram, works great!

I have 4GB RAM with Vista 64Bit and I regularly use over 2GB of it, I'm looking to go 8GB soon :D. Still though, it's not difficult to use over 2GB of RAM :rockout: