Windows 7 Confirmed for 2010

[malware]

Microsoft has confirmed that Windows 7 is on track for release in 2010. During its internal "MGX" global sales meeting this week, Microsoft witnessed that the code name for Vista's successor is "Windows 7" and the project is due to see light in approximately three years.We are currently in the planning stages for Windows 7 and development is scoped to three years from Windows Vista Consumer GA. The specific release date will be determined once the company meets its quality bar for release a Microsoft spokesperson revealed to Softpedia via email. Outside of the confirmation quoted above, Microsoft did not comment more on Windows 7.

Source: Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Confirms-Windows-7-for-2010-No-Word-on-Windows-7-M2-80768.shtml)

[Azazel]

if its 3 years wont that be 2011 :)....hehe.

[Xolair]

No-ooo... oh well, by then I'll have my ''own'' system. :D

[timta2]

And I am sure that the "Three Years" will be much longer. I wonder if Microsoft realizes that a new OS will have to have compelling features and performance if they want to sell it?

[phanbuey]

oh thank god. I think they realize that there is no "one size fits all" (or one size fits a 'segment') approach to an OS, or its features... i heard that windows 7 will be modular, which is amazing for people who want to customize their PC and good for OEM's since they will be more able to configure the software on their machines.

[Kreij]

Microsoft witnessed that the code name for Vista's successor is "Windows 7"

Strange verbage there.

[DanTheBanjoman]

if its 3 years wont that be 2011 :)....hehe.

No, 2011-3=2008, it's 2008 now. Vista didn't get released this year though.

[candle_86]

lol, hes misleading you, Windows 7 codename viennia has been in the works since 2003 actully

[Kreij]

I am not sure about the Netherlands, but here in the US, 3 years from now is definitely going to be 2011, not 2010. ;)

They are probably shooting for 4Q 2010, maybe Christmas release. Thus the "approximately" 3 years.

[DanTheBanjoman]

I am not sure about the Netherlands, but here in the US, 3 years from now is definitely going to be 2011, not 2010. ;)

They are probably shooting for 4Q 2010, maybe Christmas release. Thus the "approximately" 3 years.

My above calculation agrees on that. Though does the article say "from now"?

[EastCoasthandle]

...development is scoped to three years from Windows Vista Consumer GA... "GA" General Availability...

Wait, wasn't Vista released December 2006, January 2007?? If so, we maybe looking at a 2009 release. I guess we have to wait and see.

[mdm-adph]

And I am sure that the "Three Years" will be much longer. I wonder if Microsoft realizes that a new OS will have to have compelling features and performance if they want to sell it?

That's why I think Win7 will actually come out pretty quick -- hopefully it will be the "WinXP" to Vista's "WinME"... :shadedshu

[Azazel]

No, 2011-3=2008, it's 2008 now. Vista didn't get released this year though.

oh i c thx for clearing this up


ain't that a little soon

[Kreij]

My above calculation agrees on that. Though does the article say "from now"?

Oh sorry, I thought you were not agreeing with the statement you quoted in your calc post.

No, the article does not say "from now", but it does say that the meeting was "last week" and it also says "in approximately 3 years". One would surmise 2011 given those comments.

[ShadowFold]

I guess ill board the vista train sooner than I thought....

[phanbuey]

That's why I think Win7 will actually come out pretty quick -- hopefully it will be the "WinXP" to Vista's "WinME"... :shadedshu

:toast: that would make me so happy... a true 64 bit OS even? whoa... maybe i should cut down on the drinky.:laugh:

[Nicksterr]

i heard that windows 7 will be modular, which is amazing for people who want to customize their PC and good for OEM's since they will be more able to configure the software on their machines.

Every OS is modular. Have you ever heard of a compiler? Microsoft can include or exclude whatever features or programs they want. Have you not heard of the EU court trial? It had to do with Microsoft claiming that it was impossible to remove internet explorer from the OS to allow manufacturers to put Netscape on the machines. So what did the EU do? They asked the programmers if it was possible. What did they say? "Sure it is, we just won't compile it." So you can see the shadiness of MS here. Also Bill Gates made a complete idiot out of himself to the entire world in this case. It was filmed. Youtube it.

[phanbuey]

Every OS is modular. Have you ever heard of a compiler? Microsoft can include or exclude whatever features or programs they want. Have you not heard of the EU court trial? It had to do with Microsoft claiming that it was impossible to remove internet explorer from the OS to allow manufacturers to put Netscape on the machines. So what did the EU do? They asked the programmers if it was possible. What did they say? "Sure it is, we just won't compile it." So you can see the shadiness of MS here. Also Bill Gates made a complete idiot out of himself to the entire world in this case. It was filmed. Youtube it.


YES MICROSOFT CAN... and erm.. what on earth is this "compiler" you speak of :slap:. I meant functionally modular for ME (the consumer). I dont have access to microsoft code... nor do i want to recompile my kernel/OS every time i want to change its functionality or add/remove core features.

The fact thats its modular before they assemble it doesnt make it modular for us. Linux is modular... Unix is modular... Apple Leopard(or cheetath, or tangerine - whatever they called it) and MS Windows, however, are not modular. You buy vista. You got vista features. You don'y like it? you can whine about it, but thats about it... In linux.. you dont like how CUPS spools your printer? you can use something else... I heard rumors that windows 7 was going to bring a similar type of flexibility to windws; unfortunately i dont know if theyre true.

[surfsk8snow.jah]

That's why I think Win7 will actually come out pretty quick -- hopefully it will be the "WinXP" to Vista's "WinME"... :shadedshu

Oh man I'm dreaming... vista=flop. I was looking forward to something amazing, but alas.

[Nicksterr]

YES MICROSOFT CAN... and erm.. what on earth is this "compiler" you speak of :slap:. I meant functionally modular for ME (the consumer). I dont have access to microsoft code... nor do i want to recompile my kernel/OS every time i want to change its functionality or add/remove core features.

The fact thats its modular before they assemble it doesnt make it modular for us.

If Microsoft did something like that it would be a great step of faith for consumers. I'm sure most pc fanatics and retailers would love to have that option.

[DanTheBanjoman]

Oh sorry, I thought you were not agreeing with the statement you quoted in your calc post.

No, the article does not say "from now", but it does say that the meeting was "last week" and it also says "in approximately 3 years". One would surmise 2011 given those comments.

I agreed with your calculation. However the from now was implied by Malware, though if you read the quote he included you know it's not about "from now" but Vista launch. So even though Malware could have confused you reading the whole post would make it clear enough.

[Kreij]

I agreed with your calculation. However the from now was implied by Malware, though if you read the quote he included you know it's not about "from now" but Vista launch. So even though Malware could have confused you reading the whole post would make it clear enough.

Touche ... I did read the whole post and for some reason Malware's comments stuck in my craw, not the quote. :banghead:

In any event, I wonder what MS will strip out this time to try to make their self imposed deadline?

[KieranD]

It wont be a full new OS as such i think itll just be an update type OS untill they can bring out the next kernel. Like Windows xp wasnt really that different from Windows 2000.

[thebeephaha]

YAY! I can skip Vista, another two years, I can do that on XP x64.

[beyond_amusia]

I'm friends with a Windows beta tester (he tested Longhorn and Longhorn Server) and he said that Windows 7's system requirements will be the same as Windows Vista SP1, and Vista SP1 has lower requirements than Vista RTM according to him... Time will tell.

[jbunch07]

does anyone know what the new features of "windows 7" will be???

[imperialreign]

Touche ... I did read the whole post and for some reason Malware's comments stuck in my craw, not the quote. :banghead:

In any event, I wonder what MS will strip out this time to try to make their self imposed deadline?

well, if their handling of audio in Vista is any indicator - sell your speakers for the next WIN OS, as audio is going completely out the door. All audio will have to uploaded to a Zune player, and then played back - hope you don't mind a bit of a time delay

Oh, and considering MS, if you have a CRT or LCD monitor - kiss that too, WIN07 will be completely touch screen oriented

You'll probably need a webcam that supports retinal scans for validation, and instead of 30 days, they'll only give you 30 hours - they figure if they cut it down to 30 hours, that's less time the haxurz have in breaking activation codes before they'll have to re-install the OS. They're hoping to beat them by frustrating them with tighter time restraints.

I get that strange feeling in my pants, too, that you can kiss USB and 1394 support goodbye. We're going back to PS2, cause it was more stable . . . but the catch is, you'll have to buy a PS2 copmpatible IR unit, as all your peripherals will have to be wireless.

Readyboost will be a necessity, so go ahead and plan on purchasing a 120GB flash drive, as 16GB of onboard memory won't be enough for the OS to lug itself to the desktop - but you'll need to find one that supports PS2, cause USB and 1394 won't be around, remember?

WIN will have to be compatible with your video card, instead of your video card being compatible with WIN. Which means, when your getting buggy video performance in-game, you'll have to wait until the next support driver from WIN to be released. Don't expect compatiblity with Catalyst or Forceware . . . but, rumor has it, if you own a Matrox VGA, you've go nothing to worry about.

I believe this time, the EULA for WIN07 will also contain an appended "right to use" agreement that you'll have to sign before allowing usage. The agreement will require one to sign away your soul to make use of the product, and that any changing from WIN to a competing OS is strictly prohibited, and your soul will be collected upon promptly. MS has left it out of the last 2 OSes, cause they didn't think they had anything to worry about from OS-X and Linux . . . but they've changed their minds.
















Seriously, though, I'm really hoping they'll at least fix the audio issues with the new OS.

[jbunch07]

lol thats funny!

[beyond_amusia]

The new features will be smaller kernel and smaller footprint than Vista. :P Actually, I do believe THIS may be the version they will implement a completely new user interface, because it's been said by many that Vista would be the last Windows OS (and server 2k8) with the Windows 95 styled interface. Even a circular interface has been mentioned... (I send a lot of time reading about Windows, lmao.)

[effmaster]

The new features will be smaller kernel and smaller footprint than Vista. :P Actually, I do believe THIS may be the version they will implement a completely new user interface, because it's been said by many that Vista would be the last Windows OS (and server 2k8) with the Windows 95 styled interface. Even a circular interface has been mentioned... (I send a lot of time reading about Windows, lmao.)

That would be interesting. Do you mean by new interface something like that cubed user interface that Linux has which enables you to have 6 pages for the desktop screen?

[beyond_amusia]

Not sure, but the way I understand it, they are looking into circular windows and a 'pie' like interface... It was last year that I read about it and I discussed it with someone on my MSN. They also said that MS is also working on a new OS to completely replace Windows (I bet it's Sigularity)

[Eric3988]

I apologize for the caps in advance, but all I have to say is ZOMG ROFL GTFO MICRO$OFT!!!!

[jbunch07]

pie like huh?... wonder if they will name after some pie or somthing like windows apple or windows cherry...ha jk but that might be cool its bout time for something new imo

[eidairaman1]

I say keep the small Footprint, there is a writer over at CPU mag that still uses Word 2.0 because its not bloated like later versions are, IMO best Word apps that ive used were 97 and 2000, after that the apps are junk.
oh thank god. I think they realize that there is no "one size fits all" (or one size fits a 'segment') approach to an OS, or its features... i heard that windows 7 will be modular, which is amazing for people who want to customize their PC and good for OEM's since they will be more able to configure the software on their machines.

[jydie]

That's why I think Win7 will actually come out pretty quick -- hopefully it will be the "WinXP" to Vista's "WinME"... :shadedshu

Ha!! Nicely said. The first thing I thought of when I read this is that Vista could end up being similar to the Windows ME fiasco. :laugh:

[jbunch07]

found this pic on google very possible its fake

http://venublog.com/images/vista/vienna.jpg

looks more like a window blinds theme imo

[jbunch07]

http://www.windows7.cc/wp-content/concept_windows_7_by_digitalsoft.jpg

this looks more like that pie thing

[eidairaman1]

found this pic on google very possible its fake

http://venublog.com/images/vista/vienna.jpg

looks more like a window blinds theme imo

ya with the Rocket Dockbar at top

[jbunch07]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2144/mywindowsconceptbyalckolc2.png

[jbunch07]

notice how there is no mouse arrows, that touch screen idea might be true

[Kreij]

The above pictures are just GUI changes.
Who cares.

What's kernel changes are going to be made.

@Imperial Nice ... I almost ruined my new keyboard :D

[jbunch07]

prob nothin to amazing

[Kreij]

It doesn't matter how it looks. We can all adjust to a new interface.
It's how it works and new features that it implements that will determine if it's worthy.

[jbunch07]

i agree, i would like to know about the new features and everything as well, the gul really doesn't matter to me, just thought those pics were kinda interesting

[asb2106]

It doesn't matter how it looks. We can all adjust to a new interface.
It's how it works and new features that it implements that will determine if it's worthy.

kinda, I dont really see the need to change though. I hope they do not get rid of the start menu, I really like that about windows

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

I say keep the small Footprint, there is a writer over at CPU mag that still uses Word 2.0 because its not bloated like later versions are, IMO best Word apps that ive used were 97 and 2000, after that the apps are junk.
office 97 with publisher 98 was teh bomb

[imperialreign]

The above pictures are just GUI changes.
Who cares.

What's kernel changes are going to be made.

@Imperial Nice ... I almost ruined my new keyboard :D

What can I say, man? After having used every operating system M$ has put out since DOS 3.1 - I've got a fairly good idea as to what their idea of an "innovation" is . . . typically, it makes absolutely no sense, reverts back to a more stable technology, which is then re-skinned or covered over in some manner, reduces user-friendly features, and impliments more features that the average user doesn't really need . . . then they tack on a bunch of "behind the scenes" services to make the OS appear to run faster, but after about 1 week really just slow it down or instead gather all the other services and stage a picket line between the Windows\ directory and System32\ directory, leaving the OS asking the user "WTF is my shit, batman?! I can't find 'im_screwed.dll'!!!"

Remember, the MS motto is - if we can't figure it out now, screw it, meet the deadline; it can always be service packed later!

[Kreij]

kinda, I dont really see the need to change though. I hope they do not get rid of the start menu, I really like that about windows

There will always be a launch point (start menu) of some kind. There has to be a way for users to access the applicaitons on their machine that are not represented as icons on the desktop.

I just do not want them to add more useless animation to the desktop, as it improves nothing and is just eye candy. While many users see this as cool, it is just an annoying for people who want to get around the OS quickly.

I have this sort of sick feeling that one of these days MS is going to throw an entire 3D desktop at us that makes using the OS similar to playing an FPS. It will be very cool for the first 10 minutes or so, and they we will all slit our wrists.

[jbunch07]

What can I say, man? After having used every operating system M$ has put out since DOS 3.1 - I've got a fairly good idea as to what their idea of an "innovation" is . . . typically, it makes absolutely no sense, reverts back to a more stable technology, which is then re-skinned or covered over in some manner, reduces user-friendly features, and impliments more features that the average user doesn't really need . . . then they tack on a bunch of "behind the scenes" services to make the OS appear to run faster, but after about 1 week really just slow it down or instead gather all the other services and stage a picket line between the Windows\ directory and System32\ directory, leaving the OS asking the user "WTF is my shit, batman?! I can't find 'im_screwed.dll'!!!"

Remember, the MS motto is - if we can't figure it out now, screw it, meet the deadline; it can always be service packed later!

nicely said

[imperialreign]

I have this sort of sick feeling that one of these days MS is going to throw an entire 3D desktop at us that makes using the OS similar to playing an FPS. It will be very cool for the first 10 minutes or so, and they we will all slit our wrists.

That's an idea right there . . . MS should partner with ID Software for the next OS. That way, if you want to get to your Start menu, you're gonna have to kill a pack of zombies . . . you found the Run command, cool, but you're stuck dealing with a Cacodemon before the OS agrees to load your program . . . Oh, you want to get into Explorer? Well you've got to run the gauntlet of Shamblers, grab the BFG, turn around and waste 'em all with 1 shot beofre you can view the contents of your C:\ directory . . . . Now, you'll have to manage to find the beserker powerup that has been hidden within the depths of the System32\ before you can make any changes to your directory tree, or make new folders :ohwell:

y'know . . . that'd be pretty sweet :toast:

[jbunch07]

haha a windows fps not bad

[Triprift]

I guess ill board the vista train sooner than I thought....

Yeah i rekon ms wont support xp up till mid to late 2010.

[KieranD]

dont like the pie chart idea touch screen could be good but it would only be good for desktop stuff no point really as you can get touch screen monitors TODAY they have em at my local library and that was when they had win 98

this os just better do what it says on the tin

[jbunch07]

imo i think touch screen has its pros and cons...i def wouldn't want to have a touchscreen desktop though that would just get really tiring after a while, and how would you play games???

[xubidoo]

you would think they would fix the current OS b4 faffing about and announcing a successor to it,vista "may" actually be decent by the time W7 comes out :D
and then the cycle starts again ,crap for 2 yrs + and every1 saying how great vista is lol (maybe not)

[xfire]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080308/Assumptions.png

[Pinchy]

By the time this OS comes out we are all going to be using Windows Vista SP2 (which was an OS-changing service pack btw) and everyone will be saying "OMG Windows 7 is so crap, it uses a whole 50% of my $20 RAM...I can't wait till the new one is out because im just going to use vista until it comes out" :p

[asb2106]

By the time this OS comes out we are all going to be using Windows Vista SP2 (which was an OS-changing service pack btw) and everyone will be saying "OMG Windows 7 is so crap, it uses a whole 50% of my $20 RAM...I can't wait till the new one is out because im just going to use vista until it comes out" :p

LOVE IT!!! SO SO TRUE!

[qwerty_lesh]

'release date will be determined once the company meets its quality bar for release'


QUALITY BAR??!!
i tell you if i was holding a quality bar whilst vista was in the 'works' idve beaten the shit out of vistas bloated ass with it.


weewt 100posts =)

[jbunch07]

LOVE IT!!! SO SO TRUE!

I second that

[Saakki]

i think i will pass vista and go straight to this..will see...vista aint THAT bad but had some issues with it..

[candle_86]

yall bitch alot about vista, remember when XP came out, the weekly BSOD. or the update a day to keep it stable?

[imperialreign]

yall bitch alot about vista, remember when XP came out, the weekly BSOD. or the update a day to keep it stable?

what're you talking 'bout?! XP is still like that :laugh:

[Water Drop]

By the time this OS comes out we are all going to be using Windows Vista SP2 (which was an OS-changing service pack btw) and everyone will be saying "OMG Windows 7 is so crap, it uses a whole 50% of my $20 RAM...I can't wait till the new one is out because im just going to use vista until it comes out" :p
Yep, it happens everytime Microsoft releases a new OS.

[jbunch07]

Yep, it happens everytime Microsoft releases a new OS.

so true!

[qwerty_lesh]

for anyone who still cares about this thread,
ive borrowed an article from overclockers australia for you all to read
(apologies in advance if im breaking some kind of moderated rules)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080317-windows-7-official-date-rumor-whoring-no-its-not-official.html

so erm, enjoy :)

[Saakki]

use SP3 much better : 3