Does my system need more power

[xmountainxlionx]

I didnt really know where to post this exactly so ill post here. :toast:
I replaced my video card(in specs) with a 8800gts 512 and my mobo(in specs) with an Asus P5E x38. I got everything put together and ran 3dmark06. i get about 12~ depending on the driver. I know something is wrong because thats about what i got with my old hardware. Xazax thinks my PSU is holding me back. Its really annoying to spend money on stuff and not see a difference. :shadedshu

here is a link to the psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163109

I havnt overclocked the cpu, but i did overclock the gpu, and got a little higher but not much.

also im running 2 gigs of PNY bestbuy ram at 800mhz @ 55515, untill i get my corsairs in. I dont think this would really cause anything

everywhere ive read on the internet i should be getting atleast 14~ with a q6600

[Nitro-Max]

Should run youre system ok but theres no mention of what amp rating the 12v rails are or overall efficiency rating just run it but if you have the cash later get somthing thats highly rated like a corsair psu.Overclocking the cpu will score you better results in 3dmark alot more than just overclocking the card.
If your fans slow or go dimmer than normal thats normally a sign that the psu is struggling a bit.

[xmountainxlionx]

Brand SILVERSTONE
Model SST-ST60F
Spec
Type ATX 12V 2.01 & EPS 12V
Maximum Power 600W
Fans 1
PFC Active
Main Connector 20+4Pin
+12V Rails 4
PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
NVIDIA SLI Support NVIDIA SLI Certified
Modular Cabling Support Yes
Efficiency 75.80%
Over Voltage Protection Yes
Overload Protection Yes
Input Voltage 115 - 240V
Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
Input Current 10 - 5A
Output +3.3V@33A, +5V@24A, +12V1@13A, +12V2@18A, +12V3@16A, +12V4@8A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF 100,000 hours at 25°C, full load
Features
Features Quad +12V rail for superior performance
100% modular cables include dual PCI-E
Powerful & quiet running 120mm fan
Industrial class components

I wouldnt think that the processor would impact it THAT much

[AsRock]

12~ ?.. A good sign of a PSU not being able to cope with demand is shutdowns were the PSU just overloads and shuts off.

Is the PSU getting real hot ?. What are all the issue's you having ?


Ampage a little low on that PSU.

Aah you on about 20k on 3Dmark LMAO silly me. no thats not to bad. Worry when your games and OS is crashing.

[xmountainxlionx]

i just dont understand why i upgraded, but im not seeing any kind of benefit?

[AsRock]

i just dont understand why i upgraded, but im not seeing any kind of benefit?

Hehe same here near enough all though FPS is more stable and some games like stalker i am getting a extra 25FPS more than b4..

I did what i should not of done and waited 3 years like i normally do ( excluding graffics cards ).

EDIT: Quad core will help at the end of those 3 years i would of thought to like my daul core did when all told me go single core and they ended up upgrading. Puzzles me why i did not go quad lol.

[JrRacinFan]

I dont remember, what did you upgrade from lion? Also, 3dmarks aren't everything. ;)

EDIT: Also, the PSU I have has about the same amount of power as that Seasonic. Oh wait guess what? The OEM of my psu is Seasonic IIRC :D

[xmountainxlionx]

I dont remember, what did you upgrade from lion? Also, 3dmarks aren't everything. ;)

a 8800gts 640 and an abit ip35 pro. the motherboard i know is no big upgrade.

and yeah i know 3dmarks arnt anything really, but they tell me my computer isnt as fast as i paid for.

[hat]

i just dont understand why i upgraded, but im not seeing any kind of benefit?

Because your system was powerful as hell before.
Silverstone is a GREAT brand, 600w should suffice for you.

[xmountainxlionx]

Because your system was powerful as hell before.
Silverstone is a GREAT brand, 600w should suffice for you.

well i wouldnt have upgraded at all if it wernt for i sold my other computer and it didnt have a gpu at all in it and the guy wouldnt buy it unless it had one, so i sold my 8800gts 640, and i NEEDED to replace it. i wanted the mobo though :D

[hat]

Your system was still powerful as hell before. Did you bother overclocking it yet?
I'm sure your CPU has a death-grip (extreme bottleneck) on your GPU. Really these graphics cards and cpus are like comparing the strength of a bear to the strength of a dog. You need to give your dog some steroids so it can stand up to the bear. Understand?

[strick94u]

One more gpu for sli should do it :D

[JrRacinFan]

Well, you also have to look at it this way lion. When you get into some multithreaded gaming, that is when your new stuff is truly going to shine. For the older games that are single threaded, personally I would rather do a dual core @ 3.3Ghz than say a quad @ 2.8.

Why not the power supply I have? Link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371007

[xmountainxlionx]

Your system was still powerful as hell before. Did you bother overclocking it yet?
I'm sure your CPU has a death-grip (extreme bottleneck) on your GPU. Really these graphics cards and cpus are like comparing the strength of a bear to the strength of a dog. You need to give your dog some steroids so it can stand up to the bear. Understand?

No i havnt "bothered" overclocking the cpu yet.

and yes i "understand" you dont have to talk to me like im a 12 year old

[hat]

If I were buying a computer in the near future I would be getting single core if the price gap between single and dual core wasn't so small.

Cheapest retail Athlon 64 x1:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103199

Cheapest retail Athlon 64 x2:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103243

Wow a whole $20 more.
I know and acknowledge a rather large gain going from single to dual core. But if the sinlge cores were around $50 and duals $130 or so I would be getting a single. But duals are cheap. Single core is still the standard, and multithreaded apps will work on single threaded processors.

[hat]

No i havnt "bothered" overclocking the cpu yet.

and yes i "understand" you dont have to talk to me like im a 12 year old
Sorry if I seemed offensive, I was just making an analogy that was supposed to be humorous.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128347587844687500fail.jpg

[JrRacinFan]

I still say you really should clock the proc up a bit. Also, did you know the P5E is just a rebadged maximus? :D

[xmountainxlionx]

oh yeah i remember why i havnt oc'ed yet; this ram is absolute crap, not to mention i cant figure out this bios...i cant seem to get it to let me adjust the vcore. wierd

The newer dual cores have a whole different architecture than the single cores, and running alot of music recording/playing apps like i do i use the extra cores.

[xmountainxlionx]

I still say you really should clock the proc up a bit. Also, did you know the P5E is just a rebadged maximus? :D

lol yeah i peeled the sticker off !

[JrRacinFan]

Weird, you're still running the A-data's? They are supposed to be really really good. Link us to the ones you got.

[xmountainxlionx]

Weird, you're still running the A-data's? They are supposed to be really really good. Link us to the ones you got.

no no, i had to sell those also with the other computer. I bought the 4 gigs of corsair's off of Athlonx2, but i havnt gotten them yet. So i got some PNY 667mhz 55515 ram from bb to hold me over. I will be returning them if the corsairs ever show up.

its basically these with heatspreaders.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8221453&productCategoryId=abcat0506001&type=product&tab=2&id=1166236338366#productdetail

[hat]

That explains a lot. :laugh:

[JrRacinFan]

So, this kit then?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178095
Yeah, NewEgg gives you a ton of information about them as well! :p

[xmountainxlionx]

So, this kit then?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178095
Yeah, NewEgg gives you a ton of information about them as well! :p

yup dat's dem. Its running at 800mhz fine but they wont go anywhere else

[Paulieg]

oh yeah i remember why i havnt oc'ed yet; this ram is absolute crap, not to mention i cant figure out this bios...i cant seem to get it to let me adjust the vcore. wierd

The newer dual cores have a whole different architecture than the single cores, and running alot of music recording/playing apps like i do i use the extra cores.


Can't adjust the vcore on a 780i? What's it doing when you try to change it?

[JrRacinFan]

Ahhh, you know why right? You have them overclocked as it is. You don't have a 4:3 divider in your bios?

Can't adjust the vcore on a 780i? What's it doing when you try to change it?

He's got a P5E Paulie, he needs to update his specs.

[Paulieg]

a 8800gts 640 and an abit ip35 pro. the motherboard i know is no big upgrade.

and yeah i know 3dmarks arnt anything really, but they tell me my computer isnt as fast as i paid for.

Man, once you have high end stuff, there is a law of diminishing returns...the gains get smaller and smaller as you go up.

[Paulieg]

Ahhh, you know why right? You have them overclocked as it is. You don't have a 4:3 divider in your bios?



He's got a P5E Paulie, he needs to update his specs.

Yeah, that would be very helpful.

[xmountainxlionx]

yeah, i updated the specs. i guess im just going to wait for the good ram to come in, overclock it, and the cpu, and see what i get then.