Sum advice on a new build

[Furious_Funter]

Planing to build this next week to replace my dying machine p4 rig!
xfx 780i motherboard (http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=XFX+nForce+780i&seriesId=1743782)
4gb(2x2gb) ocz reaper 800mhz (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_reaper_hpc_edition)
intel core 2 quad q6600 or the q9300 which would be best?
2 maxtor 500gb(32mb cache) hard drives

havent got the money for a new graphics card so just getting a 2nd 7800gt from a friend to sli with the 1 i have now. am wanting to put windows vista ultimate x64 on it does any 1 know of any issues with it, things to avoid when setting up and which would be the beetter cpu choice the q6600 or the q9300

any help would be appricated

thankies:)

[GameSinewPCs]

Q6600 is a better buy for the money atm...Why vista Ultimate? Home-Premium 64-bit has most of the necessary fetures and is $XXX cheaper (theres the money for your gpu later on).

[EnergyFX]

Do you plan to multitask the heck out of your system? If not and you want more performance for gaming then spring for a faster dual core instead of a quad. Most software and nearly all games do NOT take advantage of multi processors. Even with a dual core you will notice one core ramp up and the second stay much lower on utilization.

For the same money you can get better gaming performance out of a faster dual core.

[FR@NK]

Yea I would recommend Q6600 if you plan on overclocking. The Q9300 only has a multi of 7.5 so your max overclock will be pretty limited once you hit the FSB wall. 500FSB x 7.5 = 3750MHz. With the Q6600 you should be able to run 450 x 8 = 3600MHz and run your ram 1:1 at 900 MHz with 2.2v 4-4-4-12 T1 and maybe push it abit farther.

[FR@NK]

For the same money you can get better gaming performance out of a faster dual core.

+1

E8400 would be a good choice aswell....it has a multi of 9.

[EnergyFX]

+1

E8400 would be a good choice aswell....it has a multi of 9.

agreed

[Furious_Funter]

thanks for the feed back guys
i probs would overclock the cpu alittle but am not too good with stuff like that havent managed to get much out of my old rig al have to look around. id prefer to get a quad core over a dual because itl be along time before i upgrade again so want to get what i can now so itl last for atleast 3 years or so. i used windows vista ultimate when it was out on RC1 and 2, and really liked it.

would you guys recommend the new geforce 9800gtx mite look into getting 1 over the summer when i get abit of money saved up or just sli 2 9600gt's for the same price

[EnergyFX]

thanks for the feed back guys
i probs would overclock the cpu alittle but am not too good with stuff like that havent managed to get much out of my old rig al have to look around. id prefer to get a quad core over a dual because itl be along time before i upgrade again so want to get what i can now so itl last for atleast 3 years or so. i used windows vista ultimate when it was out on RC1 and 2, and really liked it.

would you guys recommend the new geforce 9800gtx mite look into getting 1 over the summer when i get abit of money saved up or just sli 2 9600gt's for the same price

always take one powerful card over two less capable cards. With the 9800 you will have the ability to 'double up' later by getting another one and setting up SLI, thus future proofing your system even more.

[Furious_Funter]

thanks alot for the feed back
didnt think of that. al wait until i have money in the summer for 9800gtx id imagine 2 9600gt cards wouldnt be much better than 1 9800gtx anyway.

[VroomBang]

Planing to build this next week to replace my dying machine p4 rig!
xfx 780i motherboard (http://www.xfxforce.com/web/product/listConfigurations.jspa?series=XFX+nForce+780i&seriesId=1743782)
4gb(2x2gb) ocz reaper 800mhz (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_reaper_hpc_edition)
intel core 2 quad q6600 or the q9300 which would be best?
2 maxtor 500gb(32mb cache) hard drives

havent got the money for a new graphics card so just getting a 2nd 7800gt from a friend to sli with the 1 i have now. am wanting to put windows vista ultimate x64 on it does any 1 know of any issues with it, things to avoid when setting up and which would be the beetter cpu choice the q6600 or the q9300

any help would be appricated

thankies:)

If it's gaming you're interested in, lower your cpu expectations cause they might not deliver what you hope they will, whether you go for wolfdale, kentsfield or yorkfield. Today's games are GPU driven, and graphics cards are therefore key to good gaming.

If I were you, I would try the second 7800GT card in SLI first, even if just for a test, before ANY OTHER upgrade and depending on gaming performance, take it from there. :)

As already said here, I find a single graphics card a better solution, but it's not a bad idea to give the 2nd 7800GT a try if it's cheap and handy.

Don't rush on buying the latest cpu thinking it'll do miracles in games. You might end up with stuff which don't deliver a significant gain in gaming, although a lot faster for other applications.

Whatever you chose, do as much research as you can, read reviews, benchmarks, users' feedback (on newegg for ex.), people's comments etc.

Let me insist that for gaming, an average cpu with a great graphics card will yield A LOT better than an average graphics card with a great cpu. But don't take my word for it, check reviews and benchies.

[calvary1980]

9600GT over the 9800GTX, 9800GTX and 9800GX2 are rumored to be EOL in a couple months. better yet if your gaming in 1600x resolution or lower purchase the Galaxy 8800GS 384 it's the only 8800GS that uses 0.8ns Samsung Memory, HDMI Port and a nice Cooler Master Heatsink you shouldn't have any problems finding it in the UK. Q6600 is no good for overclocking it's already reached it's potential and is probably unnecessary anyways.

- Christine

[BarbaricSoul]

9800GTX and 9800GX2 are rumored to be EOL in a couple months.
- Christine



:confused: where you hear that*starts to worry alittle, I have a gx2 being delivered on thursday*:twitch:

[calvary1980]

HOCP, more of an article of some "great minds" voicing there opinion.

- Christine

[BarbaricSoul]

HOCP, more of an article of some "great minds" voicing there opinion.

- Christine

Damn, never gotten a faster respose than that when the person I quoted didn't have any warning I was quoting them.

You got some links, I would like to check that out myself(not saying I don't believe you). This is really gonna suck, freaking $600 for a graphic cards that's gonna be replaced in a acouple months. I thought this thing would stay on top, or atleast close to the top, for a decent amount of time. Damn, how long did the 8800s stay up there?

[calvary1980]

EOL doesn't mean replaced it's End of Life it just means nVidia will stop taking orders for the card it doesn't mean Stores won't stop selling already stocked ones however this could effect one's Warranty.

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzE1NjYsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=

you can also check the Forum for Discussion: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1292199

this has been quietly discussed for about a week now, it's only speculation.

- Christine

[Furious_Funter]

VroomBang
Icant sli on this board cos its an old dfi 925x-t2 only 1 pci-e slot and the cpu is a P4 650(3.4Ghz runing at 3.7ghz) its old an i cant really do any thing else with the board its reached its max really. plus its ddr2 533mhz and wont take new dual cores not even the old D series.

i will carry on using the stuff i have now, am trying to mod a i-mac case to fit all the stuff into seen it donw and i think it looks cool and handy 2nd rig


calvary1980

nice info on the cards if thats a possiblity of it happening. altho i must admit nvidia seem to be just updating alot og their products and not making new ones nforce 7 series being an example and the 9600gt cards are just slighty different setup to the new 8800gt and gts thier doesnt seem to be a great deal different but any upgrade graphics wise is gona help at the moment 7800gt cards are getting quite old now. al look and see wots available around summer time and decide then

as always thanks for the info
i will get the funds tomorrow so al decide then if i buy the parts!