View Full Version : Case, Fan, Cooler Combo - Help Please!
alexp999
04-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Okay, atm i have the case in my avatar. I noticed that when I was messing about with the side off, my CPU temp drops about 4-5*C. :eek: .
What I'm thinking is that cus my cooler has the same fan orientation as the stock cooler, it needs a nice air supply directly inline with it on the side of the case.
I am a bit worried cus when orthos had been running for 3hrs the cores were hitting 65*C. Now I know that it is 20*C away from cut off, but it is too high for my liking. So what I wanted to ask was, if I get this case:
http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/R0121074-03.jpg
Is it better to leave the side panel with no fans and let the CPU cooler supply itself, or is it better to put a 120mm fan directly in line with the CPU fan. I read a thread the other day asking whether two fans inline are better than one, and it was agreed that the fans would be out of sync and do worse than a single fan.
So i though that what I would do, would be to get the above case, and just have a 120mm front fan and a 120mm exhaust fan.
What do you think??
Cheers.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 11:58 AM
Just left it idle with the side off, and cpu temp went from 22*C (side on) to 14*C, side off!!! :eek:
My NB temps have dropped too, I'm guessing that this case has eally bad airflow :(
If you're looking for air flow, you could try this one:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Apluscase/TwinEngine/
Be advised, however: Tuniq tower 120, Thermalright Ultra 120, Noctua NH-UP12 and other big CPU coolers won't fit unless you leave the door open.
Take a look @ my system specs: Both the case and the coolers haven't arrived, yet, but you'll get an idea of what it will look like.
Ofc, it all depends on your case and / or cooler(s) budget.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 12:44 PM
If you're looking for air flow, you could try this one:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Apluscase/TwinEngine/
Be advised, however: Tuniq tower 120, Thermalright Ultra 120, Noctua NH-UP12 and other big CPU coolers won't fit unless you leave the door open.
Take a look @ my system specs: Both the case and the coolers haven't arrived, yet, but you'll get an idea of what it will look like.
Ofc, it all depends on your case and / or cooler(s) budget.
Thanks, but too expensive, I'm prob gonna order the one I said, just trying to work out if it works better with a fan on the side or not.
Both A+CASE X-Clio II
http://www.aplus-case.de/pages/products/xclio2/Aplus_Xclio2_UK_mini.pdf
and
A+Case 188 AF
(couldn't find a PDF for this model on their site)
cost less then 60 euros (less then half of the Twin Engine) and both have a 25 cm side fan, and that's from A+Case only: there are many more manufacturers.
You should take the time to make a search: there are hundreds of cases that can match your budget / specs.
As for if it works better with a fan on the side, it should: just try to clear the cables as much as possible because it will improve the air flow.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 01:13 PM
Yeah but I dont have that much still. A 60 euro case would be £50 in this country and I dont have the money to spend that much on a case. I might just get this one and try it with a cheap 120mm fan on the side and compare the temps, then post back if anyone lese has the same question.
My problem is not about the case, it is about the affect of ventilation for the CPU cooler, whether a fan blowing at it or just a vent inline with it is better.
trog100
04-06-2008, 01:21 PM
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=48124&doy=6m4
these work well with a 120 fan in the rear and another 120 in the side.. £40..
i have one..
trog
alexp999
04-06-2008, 01:24 PM
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=48124&doy=6m4
these work well with a 120 fan in the rear and another 120 in the side.. £40..
i have one..
trog
Looks nice but I need 2x 3.5 external bays. :(
The one I have chosen is an Icute. I have bought the one in my OP now.
With your case do you have a fan on the side window. Do you have any pics?
oli_ramsay
04-06-2008, 01:32 PM
What I do to further improve airflow is remove the pci slot covers, and just put a 120mm intake fan there, fits perfectly and blows straight on to my graphics card :)
alexp999
04-06-2008, 01:34 PM
What I do to further improve airflow is remove the pci slot covers, and just put a 120mm intake fan there, fits perfectly and blows straight on to my graphics card :)
Not enough space with the position of the gfx card. prob only fit a 80mm in there. And when I go Xfire there will be no space! lol
intel igent
04-06-2008, 01:58 PM
why not mod your current case?
alexp999
04-06-2008, 02:01 PM
Its too small. i wanted a new case anyway, HDD's are too close to the GFX card, and the PSu is resting on my CPu cooler, worried its gonna warp the board.
trog100
04-06-2008, 02:09 PM
the case i linked to has the big 140 in the front.. i have a floppy plugged in behind the front door that opens up.. its just sat in one of the bigger bays..
i have one 120 blowing in on the side and one blowing out at the back.. the case comes with an intake funnel thing that lines up with the cpu if u use a stock type blow down cooler..
the big front fan is the secret.. if the hardrives are kept above and below it the air just blows straight in at the mobo unobstructed..
the chinese icute site is a good place to look..
http://icute.com.tw/english/AllProduct.html
trog
alexp999
04-06-2008, 02:19 PM
well this is the one I have ordered,
http://icute.com.tw/english/UL01.html
but with a windowed side, like the one you linked to on Maplin
philbrown23
04-06-2008, 03:24 PM
dude that case is friggin small! you say that the ones they posted were to small, the one you ordered is dinky small! congats you just wasted some money!lol.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Its the same size as trog100's one.
my dad has a similar I-cute, and it is the perfect size. How big is your case then??
And I didn't say the ones anyones poster were too small. I said my current one is too small!
trog100
04-06-2008, 04:18 PM
where did u order it from.. ??
icute often come under many names and can be hard to find.. it will be plenty big enough.. it looks nicer than the one i have..
trog
alexp999
04-06-2008, 04:22 PM
ebuyer.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/121074
Get a lot of my stuff from there. We got my dad's from there too.
trog100
04-06-2008, 04:29 PM
ebuyer.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/121074
Get a lot of my stuff from there. We got my dad's from there too.
thats a sweet price.. u might need to buy some more 120 fans assuming u havnt already .. mine came with 80 ones.. "optional"..
trog
alexp999
04-06-2008, 04:31 PM
thats a sweet price.. u might need to buy some 120 fans assuming u havnt already .. mine came with 80 ones.. "optional"..
trog
I got too of these for it:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124810
One for the front, one for the back.
I hate how noisy this PC is ATM.
That was the whole point in this thread, lol! I was trying to work out if I needed to order more than too.
Have you got ur rig in the case gallery?
theonetruewill
04-06-2008, 04:35 PM
Just left it idle with the side off, and cpu temp went from 22*C (side on) to 14*C, side off!!! :eek:
My NB temps have dropped too, I'm guessing that this case has eally bad airflow :(
Temps cannot be that good realistically at idle under air cooling with the kind of overclock you have. Please try Core Temp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/CoreTemp.zip).
alexp999
04-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Temps cannot be that good realistically at idle under air cooling with the kind of overclock you have. Please try Core Temp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/CoreTemp.zip).
This house is damn cold, and it snowed this morning, so... I can believe that is the right temp.
Also I have C1E on in the bios so it is only running at 2Ghz idle.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Check this out:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080406/temps.jpg
Bit warmer in here since this morning but you can still see the temp difference. The top reading on Speedfan is CPU temp, I checked it against the bios.
alexp999
04-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Dropped a little bit more while I was doing last post, lol!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080406/temps229.jpg
AsRock
04-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Get a Dremel and make a hole at the top of the case for a fan.
Is there any fans in the front of that ?. Maybe get one of those cases that MKMods customized lately or even see if you can order one to your needs :P..
alexp999
04-06-2008, 05:34 PM
Get a Dremel and make a hole at the top of the case for a fan.
Is there any fans in the front of that ?. Maybe get one of those cases that MKMods customized lately or even see if you can order one to your needs :P..
My PSU does a nice job of taking air out of the top of my case, and I have already ordered the case from my original post. It will be interesting to see the difference in temps between, new case/new case with side fans.
AsRock
04-06-2008, 06:01 PM
My PSU does a nice job of taking air out of the top of my case, and I have already ordered the case from my original post. It will be interesting to see the difference in temps between, new case/new case with side fans.
Well a friend of mine ( Auto ) had the same issue as you and i told him the same. And he's been happy since. He was on temps that were crashing his comp a lot and droped his temps from 70C to 45-50C. it was in summer time in CA so that was not helping him either. Not such a good idea to drive hot air though the PSU as well.
Maybe you can get your hands on a cheming case normally cheap and easy to mod + cheap.
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