This PSU

[Scott1]

Anyone have anything to say about this PSU?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148008

at $35 i cant pass it up.

But will it run a quadcore, 8800GT, and all my shit

[CrackerJack]

Anyone have anything to say about this PSU?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148008

at $35 i cant pass it up.

But will it run a quadcore, 8800GT, and all my shit

what are your full specs?

[Namslas90]

I wouldn't buy it. I'd hate too lose a mobo to a POS PSU.

[philbrown23]

I would get a better quality psu than that. It may run your system but there will more than likely have stability issues due to the fact that it is a low quality psu, just remember you get what you pay for. I have an 800 watt psu that I'm selling for $80 shipped. If you want more details/ are interested pm me.

[Scott1]

sorry im only ganna buy from a certified retailer that can give me a warrenty xD

but ill look at some other ones, so damn expensive.

[CrackerJack]

i would go with this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171016

but if we knew you full specs, it would help us, help u?

[Paulieg]

I hate to give this lecture once again, but the psu is the most important component in your system. Don't go cheap here. You will regret it. If it goes, it can take everything with it! Stick with Corsair, PC Power and Cooling, Tagan, Seasonic or Silverstone...and some of the OCZ models.

[Namslas90]

sorry im only ganna buy from a certified retailer that can give me a warrenty xD

but ill look at some other ones, so damn expensive.



My standard Power Supply answer;

Some things to keep in mind;
Electronics are not "IDEAL". IF you get a PSU with the exact wattage you "need" then you will probably end up having to replace more than just the PSU.
PSU's are the heart of your system, if your heart is always beating as fast as possable (to keep up with the demand) it won't last very long. The harder the PSU works the more heat it generates. A PSU that supplies more power than you need works less hard and last longer.
When Buying a NEW PSU, get the BEST, QUALITY PSU you can afford with MORE power than you "need". This allows room for future upgrades, and will give you better overclocks, smoother operation, and the PSU will last longer because it's not working so hard to supply the draw of your system.

Adding to that is that most PSU's run efficiently at between 70% and 80% so no need to go too big.
More power than you need is usually safer than not enough, Modern PSU's will not cost you more in electricity than the computer needs anyways.

[CrackerJack]

My standard Power Supply answer;

Some things to keep in mind;
Electronics are not "IDEAL". IF you get a PSU with the exact wattage you "need" then you will probably end up having to replace more than just the PSU.
PSU's are the heart of your system, if your heart is always beating as fast as possable (to keep up with the demand) it won't last very long. The harder the PSU works the more heat it generates. A PSU that supplies more power than you need works less hard and last longer.
When Buying a NEW PSU, get the BEST, QUALITY PSU you can afford with MORE power than you "need". This allows room for future upgrades, and will give you better overclocks, smoother operation, and the PSU will last longer because it's not working so hard to supply the draw of your system.

Adding to that is that most PSU's run efficiently at between 70% and 80% so no need to go too big.
More power than you need is usually safer than not enough, Modern PSU's will not cost you more in electricity than the computer needs anyways.
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bullet is spelled with a "e" not a "i"

sorry i just had to say that. :laugh:

[Scott1]

ok, so is this decent enough, for $70?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152026

or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256027

[GREASEMONKEY]

Stretch yourself a little so you dont kick yourself in the butt!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

your second choice is a good 1

[JrRacinFan]

99% of the time you can never go wrong with Seasonic or Silverstone. Antec NeoHE's are good as well.

Like everyone else, what are you going to be pairing with the psu?

[Paulieg]

ok, so is this decent enough, for $70?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152026

or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256027

Yes, your second choice is a good one. Silverstone is good quality. Do NOT buy a Raidmax! Oh, and to help your cause. Clicking on the thanks button will yield more replies! :)

[paybackdaman]

bought all my PSU's from Rosewill. Haven't had one fail. So i would recommend them. PC power and cooling is also a good brand to look at. although they have a $100< price tag. As the others have said though, don't be cheap.
I personally have one of these. they are great for the money.
550w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182017

600w sli ready for a little bit more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032

850w (the one i am using now) nice power for the price (wait for it to become available because it is great)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182072

[Namslas90]

bullet is spelled with a "e" not a "i"

sorry i just had to say that. :laugh:

Congrats - you are the 2nd person to catch that. (or at least the 2nd to say something)!:D

[JrRacinFan]

Eh, Rosewill?! They can be a 50/50, alot of times you will either get one and it die within a month or have no problems at all.

[Scott1]

im updating my First Build Since P4 thread momentarily.

please go there for specs

[paybackdaman]

Eh, Rosewill?! They can be a 50/50, alot of times you will either get one and it die within a month or have no problems at all.
bought 4, each a different model, and they seem to have their act together now. Maybe in the passed they had problems, but since 2007, like i have said, i have had 4 none were DOA and none have failed and 1 of my computers is constantly on 24 hours a day.

[JrRacinFan]

Hey, to each his own, all my experiences with Rosewill ended up bad. If you need a cheap and STABLE AS A ROCK psu....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817255010

Personally own one of these and still going strong after 2 years.

[CrackerJack]

i found a hiper psu, that's what i use. But some people say they burn out, but idk. Mines for fine and cool.

[Scott1]

APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

SILVERSTONE ST50EF-SC ATX 12V 2.2 500W Power Supply - Retail

MSI P6N SLI Platinum LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model LH-20A1L-05 - OEM

FROM AMAZON.COM
XFX 8800GT 512MB video card.

[JrRacinFan]

i found a hiper psu, that's what i use. But some people say they burn out, but idk. Mines for fine and cool.

Yeah, you remember me asking about it. I am surprised you havent had any issues, I think its cause you bought a high amp rated psu.

@Scott1

I see your build now, either go with that silverstone or check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

[Scott1]

is the silverstone a better quality at 500W than that 600W? because they are same price...

[CrackerJack]

Yeah, you remember me asking about it. I am surprised you havent had any issues, I think its cause you bought a high amp rated psu.

@Scott1

I see your build now, either go with that silverstone or check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

yeah i think your right i was looking around and only seen problems with the ones below mine

[JrRacinFan]

Well the OCZ I showed you I am pretty sure the OEM on it is Seasonic.

[CrackerJack]

this one good, but i haven't had a Silverstone, So i'm not sure. What do ya'll think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163108

[JrRacinFan]

this one good, but i haven't had a Silverstone, So i'm not sure. What do ya'll think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817163108

It's alright but if I had to choose I would still take the one previously mentioned
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256027

[DanishDevil]

I'm gonna make a thread of this soon...

DanishDevil's Fool-proof PSU Method

Compute your system's current power consumption here (http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp). Set both CPU Utilization and System Load at 100%.
Compute your system's power consumption after every upgrade you plan on doing within the next two years. Keep in mind overclocking (this can raise your needs by 150W easily!), multiple graphics card setups, extra HDDs, etc.
Add 150-200W. This is because all PSUs can't deliver as many watts at higher stress than at lower stress. Now you know how many watts you need.
Buy from a reputable brand (Antec, Corsair, Enermax, PC Power and Cooling are all rock-solid PSUs)
If you ever think you will want to go multi-GPU, getting a PSU with a single +12V rail is recommended, especially if the GPUs are high-end or power-hungry.
Decide whether or not you need/want a modular PSU.
Search for a good price on a PSU that meets all your needs. Use www.pricegrabber.com.
Enjoy your stable rig!

[JrRacinFan]

I dont totally agree with that, already a sticky on PSU's.

[DanishDevil]

Yeah, I know. I'm just tired of seeing threads like these when the information's out there. Oh well. That's what we're here for; To help.

[Scott1]

alright well the psuengine says 354W
so my 500 should be fine right? or should i shoot for 600?

[asb2106]

buy an Antec earthwatts, they are quality made, they dont waste power, they are not that expensive, and you could get a 430 or 500 watter cheaply and it will safely power your hardware. I never cheap out on a PSU, I have seen bad ones take down computers!

[ShadowFold]

I recommend RoseWill too. I got the Stallion 550w and its great.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182089

80%+ eff. Active PFC and SLI/CF support for 60$ is really good.

[Scott1]

my only problem with the earthwatts is, its grey (and i suck at painting) and its not pre-sleved.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
also not pre-sleved

[asb2106]

my only problem with the earthwatts is, its grey (and i suck at painting) and its not pre-sleved.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
also not pre-sleved

O I C, its about the looks too!

Ok, well IDK then, I go mainly for power and what not, but my PSU now is colorful and sleeved, but its expensiveish - PC power & cooling silencer 750

[Scott1]

O I C, its about the looks too!

Ok, well IDK then, I go mainly for power and what not, but my PSU now is colorful and sleeved, but its expensiveish - PC power & cooling silencer 750

yes im going for design and power here, i want this computer to be sexy and powerful.

[asb2106]

yes im going for design and power here, i want this computer to be sexy and powerful.

here yah go then!

It might be a bit more than you were expecting, but it can handle anything you throw at it, looks great, and is cheap for what it offers!

In my opinion they make the best PSU's. Most will agree

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011&Tpk=silencer%2b750

[Scott1]

hmm, yea a little more than i am willing to spend on a PSU, but gotta admit its sexy.

[DanishDevil]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194003

I own the 620W version. I've used it for almost three years non-stop powering my system, and it has been FLAWLESS.

I'm also selling mine, but the sleeving needs to be redone. Honestly, the Enermax Liberty is a subtle yet beautiful PSU.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817812002

This is also another good option. Mushkin is known for their memory, but the PSUs they made are pretty decent.

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If you're looking more flashy, go for this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001

Blue LED fan, and sleeved cables.

[Scott1]

is the 500W anough for me though, i plan on adding more stuff later

the PSU engine only hit me at 3xxW

Im really likeing the enermax because its modular.

[asb2106]

is the 500W anough for me though, i plan on adding more stuff later

the PSU engine only hit me at 3xxW

Im really likeing the enermax because its modular.

enermax for the most part is a quality PSU also

[DanishDevil]

I love the Enermax PSUs. I've got a neat link coming up in a second...

[ShadowFold]

My Rosewill 550w has sleeves :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182089

[asb2106]

My Rosewill 550w has sleeves :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182089

I used a rosewill PSU once in a budget build for a customer, worked great during setup, got to his house, hooked it up, worked great. It wasnt even 30 minutes, I get a phone call that the computer smells funny. So I went back to find the PSU smoking and releasing the blue smoke - meaning TOAST!

It might just have been bad luck, but after doing more looking around I dont hear all good, their is quite a bit of bad.

If you plan to use 2 or more HDs, multiple Optical drives, a quad core proc, and maybe even multiple videocards, then I highly recommend spending the extra bucks on something of quality!

[ShadowFold]

Like someone else said there quality has gone up alot the past few years. Plus the 550w I linked is one of there newer ones that came out Q4 2007.

[Scott1]

now you guys are giving me too many options xxD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194003

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182089

[asb2106]

now you guys are giving me too many options xxD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194003

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182089

enermax

[DanishDevil]

Enermax, without question. Like I said, mine has been running since late 05.

[JrRacinFan]

Look, Antec EarthWatts = Seasonic = good psu OEM builder! Enermax is good. Rosewill meh they can bo so-so.

If you are going with an Earthwatts, just a little note being about 82% efficient, when you look at amps on 12v rails, those are not the max its rated for. Just a side note on your purchase.

[EiAh]

That PSU in the OP doesn't look to bad. I'd buy it.

[DanishDevil]

That PSU in the OP doesn't look to bad. I'd buy it.

Edit: Sorry. Overstepped the line. See below...

[JrRacinFan]

Actually only to an extent I agree with him. But considering how much power Scott1 will need for his upgrade that psu will burn out quicker than you can say fried motherboard.

[DanishDevil]

Fried mothe...POP

aww :(

[EiAh]

I'm on a PSU that came with my case and is 2 1/2 years old. Still the same rig, and not the slightest bit of troubles..

Generic PSU's can actully be good IMO.

[JrRacinFan]

I'm on a PSU that came with my case and is 2 1/2 years old. Still the same rig, and not the slightest bit of troubles..

Generic PSU's can actully be good IMO.

Liek I said, I agree with you to only an extent. If it's the same one in your system specs then you dont have as power hungry system as what Scott1 will be upgrading to.

No, I am not downing or "dissin'" your system at all. I still have my 2 generic psu's that I am keeping as backup. But thats all they are is backup.

[erocker]

Then I'm sorry, but IMO, you are ignorant and insane. No offense meant, but if you are willing to risk your entire system on saving $50 on a PSU, you're a whackjob.

Take it easy, while you and I both disagree with EiHh, name calling isn't very cool.




I'm on a PSU that came with my case and is 2 1/2 years old. Still the same rig, and not the slightest bit of troubles..

Generic PSU's can actully be good IMO.

Just consider yourself very, very lucky.;) Generic PSU's can be sufficient IF your lucky.

[DanishDevil]

I'm on a PSU that came with my case and is 2 1/2 years old. Still the same rig, and not the slightest bit of troubles..

Generic PSU's can actully be good IMO.

Key work is can in that sentence. Yes, you can always get lucky. If you want to secure your components, don't skimp on a PSU.

This is one of the few things that I am pretty darn firm on, but think of it this way.

If you want your computer to be able to play games with good hardware, compare it to being an athlete. Your PSU is what you eat (I know...just go with it). If you eat nothing but crap (or buy a shit brand), or don't eat enough (not enough watts), you are not going to be able to win, and you will crash and burn, and possibly injure yourself.

[EiAh]

Just consider yourself very, very lucky.;) Generic PSU's can be sufficient IF your lucky.

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones :toast:

[cdawall]

get one of these it uses the same oem as ocz and tagen etc

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101011

great little PSUs

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

of the two scott .. enermax

[Scott1]

enermax is turning out to be expensive

how is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339006

good reviews.

[JrRacinFan]

Not the greatest but I've seen worse.

[Scott1]

so would that be a yes or no?

[DanishDevil]

I'd say no. I would stay away from those "unknown" or "lesser" brands.

If you want an enermax, and don't mind doing your own sleeving, I'll sell you mine. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

[JrRacinFan]

so would that be a yes or no?

I would say not really and invest an extra $20 and get the enermax/seasonic/epower. Then again, it would work for your needs, but dont plan SLi/Crossfire on it.

[Scott1]

well this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182032
has the best rating for 600W PSUs

but you guys advised against it.


grr i hate times like this.

[cdawall]

thats because in all likelyhood it will kill your rig!

[cdawall]

heres why we don't want you to buy one of them

read down to rosewill you will see ;)

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39758

[Scott1]

so just stick with this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101021

where can i buy cable wraps?

[Cold Storm]

Scott, a PSU is the MAIN THING in your COMPUTER. YOU NEED a good CPU in order to make sure everything will run to the extent. USING A 50 dollar PSU on a system that is costing around a grand isn't the SMARTEST THING to think about. Yeah, they can be a little pricey but its a pricey need! Look around here for a psu maybe, might find a deal here. But do not cut corners on PSU's. Its wroth less to do so... You'll ether end up frying your computer, or not having the psu give enough amps to the products that is needed.
I suggest going to a PSU Calculator (http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp) and giving yourself a 100w head room. That way you know what size you need and where to go from there.. Silverstone and OCZ are good psu's.. I love my Cooler Master Real Power.
Thats my 2 cents on it all. It is something you can't just cut corners on. You can oc stuff to make up. you can't give the psu more power

[Scott1]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341001
it recommends 325, so 600 should be good right.

[Cold Storm]

I like that one a lot better then the last few you've showed. It will be a good buy in your part.. A lot of people don't look at the psu being the most important thing to go with. They think its the CPU or Ram... but gotta power something :o

+1 on it

[JrRacinFan]

What about this Storm, it's pretty much the same thing right?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

[Cold Storm]

What about this Storm, it's pretty much the same thing right?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010

That is the exact same PSU. Stealth might have a quite Fan at which the Gamer doesn't... But I'd go with the Stealth one. Your's Jr.

[DanishDevil]

Buy mine! If you give me some extra money, I'll sleeve it for ya! :)

[cdawall]

Scott, a PSU is the MAIN THING in your COMPUTER. YOU NEED a good CPU in order to make sure everything will run to the extent. USING A 50 dollar PSU on a system that is costing around a grand isn't the SMARTEST THING to think about. Yeah, they can be a little pricey but its a pricey need! Look around here for a psu maybe, might find a deal here. But do not cut corners on PSU's. Its wroth less to do so... You'll ether end up frying your computer, or not having the psu give enough amps to the products that is needed.
I suggest going to a PSU Calculator (http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp) and giving yourself a 100w head room. That way you know what size you need and where to go from there.. Silverstone and OCZ are good psu's.. I love my Cooler Master Real Power.
Thats my 2 cents on it all. It is something you can't just cut corners on. You can oc stuff to make up. you can't give the psu more power

ITS THE SAME PSU AS AN OCZ 550W TOPOWER MAKES IT! this is NOT an elcheapo PSU it is topowers retail brand hence why its cheaper people like lemonadesoda and dandel use these thins to power much more powerful rigs than his without issues because this is a highend psu for cheap

here are some quotes out of tpus on psu guide

Heres some stuff you want to look for in a psu:

* first off, you want a psu from a good company, heres a list of good companies: (note that the number order doesn't matter)
1. Antec(Neohe, Truepower trio, earthwatts, solution, basiq, & quattro series)
2. Akaska
3. Bfg
4. Corsair
5. Enermax*
6. Enhance
7. ePower
8. Fsp/Forton/Sparkle
9. Muskin
10. Ocz
11. Pc Power & Cooling
12. Scythe
13. Seasonic
14. Silverstone
15. [ABS] Tagan
16. Zalman


ePower
Known Manufacturers - Topower
Specific Units

All Units - Topower E130843

*ePower is Topower's retail brand

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39758

[JrRacinFan]

LOL, I know cdawall.

[cdawall]

LOL, I know cdawall.

i just hate how people automatically say its POS because its not a well known name :slap: they make alot of the high-end companies psus :banghead:

[DanishDevil]

I didn't say POS (in case you were referring to me). I just, I dunno, feel safer with a known brand in my rig. I won't even buy Tagan, because I haven't heard the name for long enough.

Just my feelings on the whole PSU thing. Then again, I'm all about show as well...

[cdawall]

nah that wasn't at you that was towards the big group of people who only buy one brand that they know...

[Cold Storm]

i just hate how people automatically say its POS because its not a well known name :slap: they make alot of the high-end companies psus :banghead:

Cdawall, I stopped looking at the psu's once all I saw was just something along the lines of stuff they put in low end systems. I was giving him my thoughts on not cutting ends on the whole PSU Bit. I said at the end. MY TWO CENTS. SO if you want to say I was referring to anything you put out there, or anything else, wtf ever. All I have to say to you on that sort of thing i GFY and all the things you feel I did wrong to you. I was giving my opinion. If I was Scott I'd go with anything that you and Jr think would be the best. I don't think of a PSU brand as being a POS because of it being a non well known, I just know from seeing it in person. I don't look at the name, I look at rails, amps, and that sort of thing.
All I was doing was giving my 2 cents in the matter. Thats why I stopped giving advice to peoples builds. Even with someone giving their two cents, someone else will come in an just go ballistic over it all.