RBE feature requests

[BAGZZlash]

If you got ideas of more features to add, please post them here! :)

[t3hn0]

what if you could have some recently opened bios list so it wouldn't take you few minutes browsing on your pc to find bios?

* edit:
check for update button?

[VuurVOS]

An option to load and/or save the changes made on the bios. So you can load the changes when you got a clean bios from to begin.
A warning message like "This is a HD2x00/HD3xx0 Editor" If someone want to open/edit a PRE HD2x00/3xx0 Bios
Automatic check for a updates at start up

[VuurVOS]

A function which check after entering input, if there are other input boxes with the same old value. Gives a pop up and ask if the user want to change the other values boxes to the new value. (Is very handy when changing memory speed etc)

[Wolf91]

It would be lovely if it were possibile to control the FAN SETTINGS of 3870X2 cards.

Many people have great problems with the Fan Stepping table...... This could solve them and so won't be necessary to use RivaTuner!

My card have this problem.... The fan starts running fast just over 90°.... But in 9 cases out of 10 it will reset before this temperature to prevent frying.....

[Mad-Matt]

Id like to see a pal switch for enabling pal display sizes. Every previous radeon card allows 720x512, but for some reason missing on the 3870. Some cards have pal hardare switch as all previous radeon cards ... but not my launch day 3870.

If it can by added into the bios by this great bios editor, then that would be great ;)

[BAGZZlash]

Id like to see a pal switch for enabling pal display sizes. Every previous radeon card allows 720x512, but for some reason missing on the 3870. Some cards have pal hardare switch as all previous radeon cards ... but not my launch day 3870.

If it can by added into the bios by this great bios editor, then that would be great ;)


You can set this using the CCC, can't you?

[Mad-Matt]

No. Not with the 3870. drop any other card in such as x800 and 1950pro and it appears as a selectable res. plop 3870 back in and the res is gone. The 3870 does have an ntsc sticker on it. im not sure if any have been released as pal versions. kinda hoping that its an unlockable hidden away in the bios somewhere ;)

[L7R]

Support for changing voltages in 2900 series cards would be great! ...Or if someone already got it working (in any RBE version) please let us know, thank you. Although quantum force works fine for voltage changing, it doesnt preserve correct bios checksum.

[L7R]

Just tried previous versions and found 1.07 works with 2900Pro(512bit) and 2900XT. Both 2D and 3D voltages works fine! 1.08, 1.09 and 1.10 didn't preserve voltage changes. I use Atiflash for flashing.

[BodyAction19]

I would like adding support for the X*** series, because they aren't dead yet. Thks

[chamb]

It would be lovely if it were possibile to control the FAN SETTINGS of 3870X2 cards.

Many people have great problems with the Fan Stepping table...... This could solve them and so won't be necessary to use RivaTuner!

My card have this problem.... The fan starts running fast just over 90°.... But in 9 cases out of 10 it will reset before this temperature to prevent frying.....

Hello BAGZZlash. You really make an amazing work on this RBE!

I am definitely voting for this one: Fan Settings access for HD3870X2. Without RivaTuner my Asus card crashes anytime I'm playing some serious games, because of overheating...

What we'd really love is the direct temperature transfer function like the one you get for single HD3870... Much better than those stupid temperature tables they use by default.

[BAGZZlash]

It would be lovely if it were possibile to control the FAN SETTINGS of 3870X2 cards.



Hello BAGZZlash. You really make an amazing work on this RBE!

I am definitely voting for this one: Fan Settings access for HD3870X2.


RBE v1.11 (coming the next days) will add full support of fan control for most 3870 X². Still, some 3870 X² can't be supported because the part of the BIOS programming the controller is messed up. But again: For most cards it will work. :)

[chamb]

RBE v1.11 (coming the next days) will add full support of fan control for most 3870 X². Still, some 3870 X² can't be supported because the part of the BIOS programming the controller is messed up. But again: For most cards it will work. :)

This the best news of the day !

I will now start praying my Asus card has a standard design.

Have a nice day BAGZZlash.

[BAGZZlash]

This the best news of the day !

I will now start praying my Asus card has a standard design.

Have a nice day BAGZZlash.


In the TPU database, there are two BIOSes for 3870 X² from Asus, both are being supported. :) Still, gotta hope the card takes the changed values. Would you do me the favour and keep me updated after testing it?

[Wile E]

Does RBE support the HD4k series?

[chamb]

In the TPU database, there are two BIOSes for 3870 X² from Asus, both are being supported. :) Still, gotta hope the card takes the changed values. Would you do me the favour and keep me updated after testing it?

When RBE 1.11 is available I will take some time and try to flash my Asus HD3870X2 with updated fan control. I do not plan to change the clocks though. I'll post my results on this forum of course.

[BAGZZlash]

Does RBE support the HD4k series


Sure.


When RBE 1.11 is available I will take some time and try to flash my Asus HD3870X2 with updated fan control. I do not plan to change the clocks though. I'll post my results on this forum of course.


Thanks! :toast:

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

a force flash option witha big warning and many clauses.

[philbrown23]

I think it would be sweet if you ould set it up so that after you flash the card with the edited bios that you can overclock the card from there, this way you dont have to keep flashing the bios, it seems that after you flash the edited bios on to it they are then locked.

[CrackerJack]

I think it would be sweet if you ould set it up so that after you flash the card with the edited bios that you can overclock the card from there, this way you dont have to keep flashing the bios, it seems that after you flash the edited bios on to it they are then locked.

which card are using? I can still overclock more after i've flash. I just use RBE to edit voltage and fan settings.

[VuurVOS]

I want to edit/change the default values of mem/gpu which you can see in GPU-Z.

For example the Sapphire HD 3870 Atomic Edition bios has a speed of 825/1200mhz. When I edit my normal bios to those speeds I still see the old default vaules of 777/1126mhz.

[chamb]

When RBE 1.11 is available I will take some time and try to flash my Asus HD3870X2 with updated fan control. I do not plan to change the clocks though. I'll post my results on this forum of course.

Well I've just done it.
I flashed my Asus HD3870X2 card to modify the fan control. It worked perfectly at the first attempt, the card's fan speed is now proportional to the core temperature (transfer function). And I do not experience those crashes in games anymore.

Thank you so much BAGZZlash for making this possible.

My card exact reference is "EAH3870X2/G/HTDI/1G" in case someone has the same. It is a pretty standard design that almost every HD3870X2 on the market would follow.

[smartali89]

Support for X1000 plxzz...

[Divet]

Please, add the possibility to adjust "duty cycle min". On my Radeon 2650 this parameter is 31 and I am planning to change it to 25. For quietness.

[BAGZZlash]

Please, add the possibility to adjust "duty cycle min". On my Radeon 2650 this parameter is 31 and I am planning to change it to 25. For quietness.


WTF? It actually is changeable! ;)

[smartali89]

support for x1000 series???

[Divet]

WTF? It actually is changeable! ;)
I'm sorry, but it is changeable only if "Use transfer function (recommended)" is checked!
In my BIOS another item "Use look up table" is checked and I'm afraid of changing to "Use transfer function"...
Please answer me, can I do this: 1) change to "Use transfer function"; 2) set "duty cycle min"; 3) immediately after this change to "Use look up table" ("duty cycle min" becomes gray inactive)?
Would my new value of "duty cycle min" be saved???

[VuurVOS]

support for x1000 series???
I think RBE isn't going to support it because those card are'nt sold any more. Why dont you use RaBiT (http://rusjaz.narod.ru/)?

I'm sorry, but it is changeable only if "Use transfer function (recommended)" is checked!
In my BIOS another item "Use look up table" is checked and I'm afraid of changing to "Use transfer function"...
Please answer me, can I do this: 1) change to "Use transfer function"; 2) set "duty cycle min"; 3) immediately after this change to "Use look up table" ("duty cycle min" becomes gray inactive)?
Would my new value of "duty cycle min" be saved???
You only need to change the first fan value of the look up table to 25% :rolleyes:

[Divet]

You only need to change the first fan value of the look up table to 25% :rolleyes:
Of course, I tried! Without success!
First, first temperature value in my look up table was 60 degrees! So it's fan value works only if 60 degrees achieved!
I tried to change it from 60 to 40 degrees! (And fan speed value from 41 to 25)! But without any good result! After saving, flashing, rebooting - temperature was 45 degrees and fan was 31 !!!!!! A don't know, why!

[VuurVOS]

Could you post your bios in the bugtracker thread ?

[Ketxxx]

I want a new GUI, one labelling things properly :) like the UVD clock profile actually being labelled UVD :p

[VuurVOS]

I want a new GUI, one labelling things properly :) like the UVD clock profile actually being labelled UVD :p

BAGZZlash is already working on it. You can post a screenshot how it must look in the "General information and discussion" thread

PS This is my suggestion -> http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=886092&postcount=318

[BAGZZlash]

BAGZZlash is already working on it. You can post a screenshot how it must look in the "General information and discussion" thread

PS This is my suggestion -> http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=886092&postcount=318


Thanks for stepping into the breach for me. But to make things straight: I'm not working on it, I'm still thinking about it (a lot!). Because it's not that simple. I'm really willing to make your suggestion come real, but it's hard because all powerplay states vary for BIOS to BIOS.

[arroyo]

Hello BAGZZlash,

In RBE 1.14 CCC limits can be increased up to 720/1200 for HD4850. On techpowerup BIOS database there is BIOS from Gainward 4850 Golden Sample --link-- (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/20636/Gainward.HD4850.512.080806.html)(standard clocked 700/1100) witch allows go up to 750/1150. Can you add this profile to Method1 - Hash. Those are limits for my card on stock voltage, and I think most of 4850 users can do this.

If you will add this profile, I would be glad to test it on my HD4850.

PS. You are doing a hell of a good job for ATI users. Man ... you are legend!

[BAGZZlash]

Hello BAGZZlash,

In RBE 1.14 CCC limits can be increased up to 720/1200 for HD4850. On techpowerup BIOS database there is BIOS from Gainward 4850 Golden Sample --link-- (http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/20636/Gainward.HD4850.512.080806.html)(standard clocked 700/1100) witch allows go up to 750/1150. Can you add this profile to Method1 - Hash. Those are limits for my card on stock voltage, and I think most of 4850 users can do this.

If you will add this profile, I would be glad to test it on my HD4850.

PS. You are doing a hell of a good job for ATI users. Man ... you are legend!

Thank you man, I look every now and then after such BIOSes with increased overdrive headroom. Consider it done for the next RBE release! :)

[nafets]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before or if it's even possible;

Editing and setting voltage ranges.

Example: With my HD4870 there are a number of BIOSes available with varying voltage settings and/or ranges. Some come either locked in at one voltage setting (usually at 1.263v or even 1.276v; changing voltages in these BIOSes does nothing) or with a useable voltage range (1.083v to 1.263v; you can change voltages in these BIOSes to the 4 voltages in this range).

It would be great if you could expand the range to include the minimum value I've seen for the HD4870, which is 1.083v (for undervolting in 2D - saving power), and to the maximum value I've seen, which is 1.276v (for overvolting in 3DHP - increasing overclocking stability).

[VuurVOS]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before or if it's even possible;

Editing and setting voltage ranges.

Example: With my HD4870 there are a number of BIOSes available with varying voltage settings and/or ranges. Some come either locked in at one voltage setting (usually at 1.263v or even 1.276v; changing voltages in these BIOSes does nothing) or with a useable voltage range (1.083v to 1.263v; you can change voltages in these BIOSes to the 4 voltages in this range).

It would be great if you could expand the range to include the minimum value I've seen for the HD4870, which is 1.083v (for undervolting in 2D - saving power), and to the maximum value I've seen, which is 1.276v (for overvolting in 3DHP - increasing overclocking stability).
I tried the special Diamond Bios. It was a bad overclocker even with 1.276v. I could push 5MHz more out the 113-B50701-105 Bios and my screen wasn't corrupt when setting the RAM at 200MHz

The problem is, if you dont have any information about it, it impossible to find what your looking for. So changing the voltage range is impossible without knowing the bytes and maybe even not possible because hardware limits of the Voltage Regulator. So it is guesing in the dark.

If BAGZZlash had a HD4870 card, it would be easier for him to find it out.

[LuxZg]

@voltage range - I second that. I'm a bit late commer to this thread, but this was my initial request to be made.. nafets was quicker though :D
It's not that important to me personaly, but it would be usefull to have range from 1,083 - 1,276 just because you'd have a choice. Right now, you either have high voltages or low voltages, can't have both.. As for lousy overclockability of Diamond bios (VuurVOS) - it matters little if all that is taken from their BIOS is high voltage ;) Than we could take any BIOS that is good overclocker or original one from your card, and enable both low/high voltages, and low/high CCC limits. Btw, what's that with voltage regulator hardware limits? We know it can give +0,02V in real measured voltage with Diamond BIOS, and we all know it gives much lower voltage with 1,083V tweak, so voltage regulator can do it alright.

My second request would be just that. Any way to force CCC to show LOWER clock range in Overdrive? I'd really like if we would have 150-999 for GPU and 200-1200 for memory :)

For my third request, I'm getting back to posts #32/33/34 (Ketxxx ;) , VuurVOS, BAGZZlash)
Thanks for stepping into the breach for me. But to make things straight: I'm not working on it, I'm still thinking about it (a lot!). Because it's not that simple. I'm really willing to make your suggestion come real, but it's hard because all powerplay states vary for BIOS to BIOS.

I persume that changing label txt is problematic part. Why don't you use txtbox instead of ordinary label? or dropdown list or something like that, which is all similar to current solution. Only thing you need to change is that each group of clocks has its own changeable txtbox. I'm low on Visual Studio skills, but should be no more complicated than current solution.

[VuurVOS]

@voltage range - I second that. I'm a bit late commer to this thread, but this was my initial request to be made.. nafets was quicker though :D
It's not that important to me personaly, but it would be usefull to have range from 1,083 - 1,276 just because you'd have a choice. Right now, you either have high voltages or low voltages, can't have both.. As for lousy overclockability of Diamond bios (VuurVOS) - it matters little if all that is taken from their BIOS is high voltage ;) Than we could take any BIOS that is good overclocker or original one from your card, and enable both low/high voltages, and low/high CCC limits. Btw, what's that with voltage regulator hardware limits? We know it can give +0,02V in real measured voltage with Diamond BIOS, and we all know it gives much lower voltage with 1,083V tweak, so voltage regulator can do it alright.

Its not so easy. The problem is how it works. I am speaking and trying with BAGZZlash to find out how it works. I have an idea but its proberly more or less fault. I know more or less how it works on the 100 bios but the problem is my solution didn't fit with the 105. It did more or less explain why the voltages looked so on the 100 bios.


My second request would be just that. Any way to force CCC to show LOWER clock range in Overdrive? I'd really like if we would have 150-999 for GPU and 200-1200 for memory :)

I tought they where set by the states clocks.


For my third request, I'm getting back to posts #32/33/34 (Ketxxx ;) , VuurVOS, BAGZZlash)


I persume that changing label txt is problematic part. Why don't you use txtbox instead of ordinary label? or dropdown list or something like that, which is all similar to current solution. Only thing you need to change is that each group of clocks has its own changeable txtbox. I'm low on Visual Studio skills, but should be no more complicated than current solution.
Thats nice. A dropdown list where you can select a state. So you only need one set of boxed to show every thing. (so you still need 9 textboxes). I will make later a screenshot of you idea.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/112/naamloossi1.jpg

[LuxZg]

Well, didn't exactly envision it like this, but your screenshot looks fine to me :D So fine, I'll just forget my idea ;)

@lower CCC Overdrive limits - you mean, I should make BIOS clocks run on 160/200 by default, than I'll have 160GPU/200memory available in Overdrive?

@voltage ranges, well, we can just hope that you guys will find a way some day..

[Muhad]

Add help bubbles to most of the fields with text large enough to read.
A couple of the help boxes existing now display text that is really hard to read.


This is a great utility and I am sure glad I found it.

[eidairaman1]

Is there any Possible Way to allow Older Cards such as the Radeon X1K Series into the bunch, because i tried saving my bios using Rabit and tried loading it in the RBE and it gives this in the attachment

[BAGZZlash]

Is there any Possible Way to allow Older Cards such as the Radeon X1K Series into the bunch, because i tried saving my bios using Rabit and tried loading it in the RBE and it gives this in the attachment

Sorry, not gonna happen. RBE does and always will support video cards from HD 2x00 on only.

[VuurVOS]

Is there any Possible Way to allow Older Cards such as the Radeon X1K Series into the bunch, because i tried saving my bios using Rabit and tried loading it in the RBE and it gives this in the attachment

Why write a bios editor for the X1K Series if there is already a bios edior called Rabit. Why would BAGZZlash spend his time/money on something which isn't produced any more

EDIT Dammit BAGZZlash was faster......

[eidairaman1]

Why write a bios editor for the X1K Series if there is already a bios edior called Rabit. Why would BAGZZlash spend his time/money on something which isn't produced any more

EDIT Dammit BAGZZlash was faster......

Dude dont try to rip my head off, this is a free forum, Also Rabit doesnt detect Cards Properly anyway.

[BAGZZlash]

Dude dont try to rip my head off, this is a free forum, Also Rabit doesnt detect Cards Properly anyway.


I'm sure VuurVOS didn't mean to be rude. The thing is that this question is asked too many times. Three times just in this thread for example.
What X1xxx card are you using that your BIOS is not being properly processed using RaBiT?

[eidairaman1]

Sapphire Radeon x1950 Pro AGP 512, it doesnt detect the Max amt of ram, yet ATI CCC does.

[BAGZZlash]

I see. That shouldn't be such a big problem. Fact is that the memory amount isn't really contained inside the BIOS. :eek:
The BIOS is a computer program that is run at boot up. At this time, the card figures out the memory amount and, for newer cards, also timings etc. by some trial and error. So, programs that analyze BIOS files just as RaBiT or RBE have difficulties determining these things. The CCC however doesn't because the BIOS feeds its findings into a controller chip after determining the memory settings. CCC and "runtime" programs like RivaTuner or ATT can revert to these information directly, of course.
So, just go ahead and try RaBiT for your case. I'm pretty sure it will work for you. ;)

[eidairaman1]

Dude I know what bios is, it is Basic Input Output System, it is the firmware of the System, with out that system a Computer or component cant function properly, as that is low level software.

[BAGZZlash]

Dude I know what bios is, it is Basic Input Output System, it is the firmware of the System, with out that system a Computer or component cant function properly, as that is low level software.


I didn't mean to explain to you what a BIOS is per se but that it just determines what memory amount there is installed on the card and that there is no such thing as a simple value inside the BIOS that contains this information.

[arroyo]

Hi BAGZZlash!

I found fantastic bios for HD4850. It's not working with reference cards, but it has limits in overdrive 800/1300 and it's directly from ASUS TOP card.
You can use thoose CCC limits in new RBE.

Man...I just can't wait for new release. Just need to push my baby (4850) a little bit more.

[BAGZZlash]

Hi BAGZZlash!

I found fantastic bios for HD4850. It's not working with reference cards, but it has limits in overdrive 800/1300 and it's directly from ASUS TOP card.
You can use thoose CCC limits in new RBE.

Man...I just can't wait for new release. Just need to push my baby (4850) a little bit more.

Thanks, man. Will replace my 4850 750 MHz signature as soon as it's tested. :)

[arroyo]

Thanks, man. Will replace my 4850 750 MHz signature as soon as it's tested. :)

SO YOU HAVE 750 SIGNATURE!!!:twitch:

Please, let me test it. Remember that I've first post here quote about higher limits on Gainward 4850 GS.

[BAGZZlash]

SO YOU HAVE 750 SIGNATURE!!!:twitch:

Please, let me test it. Remember that I've first post here quote about higher limits on Gainward 4850 GS.

You got a PM! :)