Fix for 4gb XP problem?

[ScSiDaN]

Does anyone know of a third party fix for the XP 4GB ram problem. Installed SP3 but still nothing.

[ShadowFold]

Yea get XP x64 :p x86(32bit) only reads 3.2-3.6gb.

[GameSinewPCs]

...XP 32-Bit and Vista 32-Bit don't recognize more than (around) 3.3GB of system memory. You need to go 64-bit in order to utilize 4+GB...


It never ceases to amaze me how poorly advertised simple information such as ^^ is to those who do not study the market exclusively. It isn't that uncommon for "enthusiasts" to ask these questions and it proves evident the information that is being widely advertised by current marketing schemes. As another example, the higher the frequency the better slogan that intel is still trying to reverse. To some degree it is a necessary component to our economy in general as it would be an impossilbe feat for every individual to be an expert in every market at all times. Albeit, information is improperly inhibited at times...just a thought (nothing against any individuals).

[DanTheBanjoman]

...XP 32-Bit and Vista 32-Bit don't recognize more than (around) 3.3GB of system memory. You need to go 64-bit in order to utilize 4+GB...


It never ceases to amaze me how poorly advertised simple information such as ^^ is to those who do not study the market exclusively. It isn't that uncommon for "enthusiasts" to ask these questions and it proves evident the information that is being widely advertised by current marketing schemes. As another example, the higher the frequency the better slogan that intel is still trying to reverse. To some degree it is a necessary component to our economy in general as it would be an impossilbe feat for every individual to be an expert in every market at all times. Albeit, information is improperly inhibited at times...just a thought (nothing against any individuals).

On the other hand the information is not 100% correct, utilizing PAE 32 bit OSes can address 4GB just fine.

Besides, higher frequency is a good thing as long as you're talking about the same design. ie a higher clocked Conroe is faster than a lower clocked Conroe. And for a long time it actually worked across different designs.
Nothing in the IT world is as black and white as you make it seem.

[GameSinewPCs]

Indeed, AWE (Address Windowing Extensions) for windows does exist, but it's not applicable to his situation and pertains primarily to server based windows. Also, it doesn't natively support more than 4GB of Virtual memory but rather allocates it via the means of software addressing (not really efficient for most requirements) and of course PAE operations built into the chip. The programs must be coded to make use of AWE. As for the marketing...Most markets (not in any way limited to electronics) tend to bend the facts towards the current market trends. While this in itself isn't inherently a bad thing, it tends to cause confusion under certain long term marketing schemes, such as X86 based CPUs. As for most processors scaling across architechtures, not so much. Any major architechture changes tend to drastically influence the performance of the chip. The market is anything but black and white, but companies have tendencies to leave out information to try and over-simplify their products to sell. Again, this is not necessarily a bad thing, just thinking out loud.

Edit:

"ie a higher clocked Conroe is faster than a lower clocked Conroe."

Try comparing an E8200 at 2.66Ghz VS a Core-2 derived "pentium" E2160 oc'd to 2.66Ghz, or an E4700 or even an E6750. The E8200 should be faster than any of those processors in a majority of tasks (although not necessarily by any substantial amount, usually between 1%-5% gains).

[DanTheBanjoman]

"ie a higher clocked Conroe is faster than a lower clocked Conroe."

Try comparing an E8200 at 2.66Ghz VS a Core-2 derived "pentium" E2160 oc'd to 2.66Ghz, or an E4700 or even an E6750. The E8200 should be faster than any of those processors in a majority of tasks (although not necessarily by any substantial amount, usually between 1%-5% gains).

Exactly, nothing is as black as white as they seem. There are simply far too many variables and possibilities everywhere.