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CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:14 AM
Which of these two would be better? I'm guessing maybe the XIGMATEK. But I hear everybody likes the MX-2. Plan to use it on cpu (duh) and gpu.


XIGMATEK PTI-G3801
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233006

OR

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020

ShadowFold
04-12-2008, 06:15 AM
MX2 is the best. Non conductive and keeps everything cool :)

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:16 AM
How about MX-2 or

OCZ OCZTFRZTC Freeze Extreme
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835202006

DaedalusHelios
04-12-2008, 06:18 AM
MX-2 is the best compared to everything. ;)

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:20 AM
thanks, sounds great!!! how much of a drop should i see? 30c idle/45 load on cpu and 45c idle/68c load on gpu

ShadowFold
04-12-2008, 06:22 AM
I went from 32c to 26c going from Intel stock.

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:25 AM
I went from 32c to 26c going from Intel stock.

well that's good, atleast i see a 5-10 drop i'll be happy. I would like to see 15-20 drop on my cards too. hopefully! i would be happy with atleast 10c drop

ShadowFold
04-12-2008, 06:27 AM
Yea the cool thing about it is if you get some on the pcb its non-conductive so it wont fry anything like Arctic Silver would.

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:29 AM
Yea the cool thing about it is if you get some on the pcb its non-conductive so it wont fry anything like Arctic Silver would.

ok sounds good. this arctic silver isn't really worth a crap. i just had gotten something different when i got the zalman. but oh well, i was in a hurry. :D

tzitzibp
04-12-2008, 06:30 AM
I use AKASA AK-455-5G HI PERFORMANCE THERMAL COMPOUND and at OCed settings for both cpu and gpu I get 20 C(E6420@3.2ghz Idle) and 55 C(8800GTX idle).....:rockout:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1394/__14.jpg
Also chk the following
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12664&d=1204572379

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 06:48 AM
just order the MX-2, thanks again guys!!!

tzitzibp
i couldn't find that compound :(

tzitzibp
04-12-2008, 06:54 AM
just order the MX-2, thanks again guys!!!

tzitzibp
i couldn't find that compound :(

MX-2 will be cool enough, we all know it...Good luck with your build, and give us some feedback when you are done....:toast:

CrackerJack
04-12-2008, 07:19 AM
MX-2 will be cool enough, we all know it...Good luck with your build, and give us some feedback when you are done....:toast:

thanks, i've been having heat problems since i built this system a month ago. this is got to be the only thing. Not in less i go water. But that will while though.

tzitzibp
04-12-2008, 08:28 AM
thanks, i've been having heat problems since i built this system a month ago. this is got to be the only thing. Not in less i go water. But that will while though.

maybe you could also change that zalman9500 to a 9700 (about 5 C temp drop) or even a ZEROTHERM NV120 NIRVANA PREMIUM 1 CPU COOLER (if you can find one) or Thermalright ULTRA 120 EXTREME COOLER (I like this one - especially for htpc)

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 04:25 PM
how much mx-2 should i put on my gpu's? should i do just i like doing a cpu. the size of grain of rice in the center and but the hs (fan) back on.

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 05:25 PM
how much mx-2 should i put on my gpu's? should i do just i like doing a cpu. the size of grain of rice in the center and but the hs (fan) back on.

well the size of the gpu is usually larger than the cpu so more than just a "grain of rice" size should be applied...

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 05:28 PM
well the size of the gpu is usually larger than the cpu so more than just a "grain of rice" size should be applied...

mine gpu is only about an half of inch wide, so maybe little less than.

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 05:30 PM
mine gpu is only about an half of inch wide, so maybe little less than.

sounds like the size of a cpu... so a drop of this size {:pimp:} should be enough....

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 05:32 PM
sounds like the size of a cpu... so a drop of this size {:pimp:} should be enough....

lol ok cool, thanks

WhiteLotus
04-14-2008, 05:35 PM
you guys are going to butcher me for this - i have used copper grease on my FX-62. Hey i was excited about the chip and couldn't find any compound in over 5 shops!

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 05:44 PM
lol ok cool, thanks

no problem... anytime.

btw... chk this http://techfuzion.net/ and you are welcome to join...:toast:

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 05:45 PM
you guys are going to butcher me for this - i have used copper grease on my FX-62. Hey i was excited about the chip and couldn't find any compound in over 5 shops!

what temps do you get now, compared to the previous setup?

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 05:48 PM
no problem... anytime.

btw... chk this http://techfuzion.net/ and you are welcome to join...:toast:

the link wouldn't open

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 05:52 PM
the link wouldn't open

they are in the process of moving everything to the new domain... so try a bit later... you 'll see some familiar Avatars...;)

sneekypeet
04-14-2008, 05:56 PM
Eastcoast did a shootout on TIM's.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=26300&highlight=thermal+paste

thebeephaha
04-14-2008, 06:05 PM
MX-2 is the best compared to everything. ;)

I agree 100%.

I had recently RMA'd my 8800 Ultra and had to swap my Arctic Cooling Extreme cooler to the new card. Well the cooler came with MX-2 pre-applied and all I had to use in the mean time on my new card was AC5... 10c hotter. :wtf: :banghead:

I put in an overnight order for MX-2 the same day.

WhiteLotus
04-14-2008, 06:10 PM
what temps do you get now, compared to the previous setup?

I got about 38C with my 3800+ on proper thermal compound now i get around 42-43C on copper grease with a much hotter chip.

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 06:36 PM
42-43C on copper grease with a much hotter chip.

true... so you are fine....:cool:

tzitzibp
04-14-2008, 06:37 PM
the link wouldn't open

you can try now...

domy85
04-14-2008, 06:57 PM
Artic Silver 5 paste is bad? Woah i need to stay on top of thermal paste improvments :twitch:

sneekypeet
04-14-2008, 07:03 PM
I wouldnt say AS5 is "bad" , it has just found better competition over the years!

WhiteLotus
04-14-2008, 07:07 PM
hang on then - if i get 43C average on copper grease - what can i expect to get with MX2?

sneekypeet
04-14-2008, 07:28 PM
hang on then - if i get 43C average on copper grease - what can i expect to get with MX2?

I dropped 2*C in my water loop moving from AS5 to MX-2. The result was instantaneous, as Mx-2 doesnt need a setup time.

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 07:34 PM
I dropped 2*C in my water loop moving from AS5 to MX-2. The result was instantaneous, as Mx-2 doesnt need a setup time.

so mx-2, theres no cure time?

sneekypeet
04-14-2008, 07:37 PM
no sir the package states MX-2 is NON-CURING....check out AC's site...pretty sure it says the same there....Supposedly last up to 8 years B4 you need to reapply as well:)

Trigger911
04-14-2008, 08:41 PM
wow great thread here i like to know this stuff myself btw hows the new cpu treating you crackerjack?

CrackerJack
04-14-2008, 08:43 PM
wow great thread here i like to know this stuff myself btw hows the new cpu treating you crackerjack?

it's working great, i'll upload a cpu-z shot in a min. do some crysis benchies :rockout:


but yeah it's staying pretty cool.

this is just right after do the bench. i play cod4 at this settings for almost 5 hours, with no problems.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080414/Untitled890.jpg

Trigger911
04-14-2008, 09:10 PM
great nice man if you need any help bro pm me i got the same board and i could probly hellp you with some settings

wiak
04-14-2008, 09:24 PM
MX2 is the best. Non conductive and keeps everything cool :)
jup mx-2, or mx-1,
its has no metal in it so its safe to :D

CrackerJack
04-15-2008, 08:23 PM
BEFORE
http://img.techpowerup.org/080415/temps.jpg

AFTER
http://img.techpowerup.org/080415/tempsafter.jpg

That's a good 5c drop. Now the video cards, i'm using the default bios. I'm about to use my custom fan speeds. That will help ALOT!!

AFTER FAN BIOS CHANGE
http://img.techpowerup.org/080415/perfect.jpg

cdawall
04-15-2008, 09:33 PM
just use white dow corning its cheap and works fine 33C on my old 3000+ 2.59ghz 1.82v

CrackerJack
04-18-2008, 04:14 PM
Ya'll think these temps look good? There alot better than before. I forgot to run coretemp, still about half into the wprime test. The first part is a idle and the next results where during the test, so at load. :D

ok just did another test (stabilty) and it BSOD damn it
check temp log 2

marsey99
04-18-2008, 04:33 PM
MX-2 is the best compared to everything. ;)

i wouldnt go that far, that mad japanese diamond stuff is better and i would guess those metal pads you need melt onto the ish are too.

ocz freeze and tuniq tx-2 are also about the same as mx-2 and i would recomend all 3 to all but if you cant get those i would then say as5.

WarEagleAU
04-18-2008, 05:47 PM
The freeze and tx-2 arent quite up there with mx-2 that I have seen. Now coolitlaboratories liquid TIM and that diamond stuff is alot better. But for AS series, the MX1/mx2 is top notch. I may take off my ICEQ3 cooler and clean off the tim and reapply the MX2 I have or put that VF900 on there I got from solotel.

wiak
04-20-2008, 09:37 AM
The freeze and tx-2 arent quite up there with mx-2 that I have seen. Now coolitlaboratories liquid TIM and that diamond stuff is alot better. But for AS series, the MX1/mx2 is top notch. I may take off my ICEQ3 cooler and clean off the tim and reapply the MX2 I have or put that VF900 on there I got from solotel.
MX-2 + Zalman VF900-Cu = :wub: my 3870 got from 50c idle to 30c!, 80c load to 50c
i love it! :respect:

Jeffredo
04-20-2008, 06:35 PM
Quick F.Y.I.. Tried Zalman's thermal compound (the kind in a bottle with a brush). My temps actually went up about 3 to 4 degrees or the pre-applied stuff on my Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro (guess that was Arctic Silver on it?).

EnglishLion
04-20-2008, 11:33 PM
I use Akasa AK-450 on my chips. I like it because PCWorld stock it so I can pop out and buy a tube without waiting and forking out for delivery.

Works great, I've tried others but not seen much difference, certainly nothing I can put down to anything more than variations in ambient and test conditions.

wiak
04-20-2008, 11:46 PM
Quick F.Y.I.. Tried Zalman's thermal compound (the kind in a bottle with a brush). My temps actually went up about 3 to 4 degrees or the pre-applied stuff on my Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro (guess that was Arctic Silver on it?).
MX-1 on Arctic Cooling stuff, not Artic Silver, thats another

cdawall
04-21-2008, 01:25 AM
just FYI dow corning TC 1996 is almost identical to the stuff that comes with coolermaster coolers (the nasty grey stuff that is like glue)