bigger sig space.

[Azazel]

currently the sig space is 500x100. im asking if this could be made bigger. say 500x150 . 100 is a little to narrow imo.

any one else want this?

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/sig.png

[Triprift]

I think thats a good size myself but then thats just my opinion.

[Azazel]

I think thats a good size myself but then thats just my opinion.

i just find it hard to make a sig to fit in that space when its narrow....the space is wide enough but not high enough imo :)

[Triprift]

The only things id liked changed with avvy sigs is animated avvy/sigs i no it wont happen but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever. :D:D

[spud107]

moar sig = moar bandwidth = nay

[Azazel]

The only things id liked changed with avvy sigs is animated avvy/sigs i no it wont happen but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever. :D:D

:p rofl :) haha...:toast:

[Azazel]

moar sig = moar bandwidth = nay

50 pixels wont really make all that difference...

[HTC]

50 pixels wont really make all that difference...

Actually, that would be 25000 pixels but i agree: not much difference ...

[W1zzard]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

[HTC]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

Let's not overdo it ...

How about a trade off: instead of 500 by 150 how about 400 by 150? That's only 10000 pixels more then current.

EDIT

Observe a comparison:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/500 by 100.png

Current one


http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/500 by 150.png

Azazel's proposal


http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/400 by 150.png

My trade off proposal

[DaMulta]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

I'm down!!!!

I can hear it now......

[JrRacinFan]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

Something we all would like, except for me, but unfortunately will definitely not happen.
Hey W1zz, wasn't at one time the size 375x80 or something weird?

@azazel

I have no problem making any of my sigpics 500x100. Why should the size increase again?

[HTC]

Something we all would like, except for me, but unfortunately will definitely not happen.
Hey W1zz, wasn't at one time the size 375x80 or something weird?

It was increased before? Was unaware of this.

Question to W1zzard: how big of a hit was the change from the previous sig size to the current?

[JrRacinFan]

NO I am unsure, think it was but who knows.

[Azazel]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

why are you being sarcastic...no need for that...

Something we all would like, except for me, but unfortunately will definitely not happen.
Hey W1zz, wasn't at one time the size 375x80 or something weird?

@azazel

I have no problem making any of my sigpics 500x100. Why should the size increase again?

its just to narrow imo....its to squished...id like more freedom space to make a sig....many websites have bigger sig space and they run fine...


what about HTC idea of 400x150

or how about 500x130

[JrRacinFan]

its just to narrow imo....its to squished...id like more freedom space to make a sig....many websites have bigger sig space and they run fine...

Since when is TPU like other communities? IMO, I think its perfectly fine the way it is. But meh, to each his own I guess.

[Triprift]

I have to agree with ya jr the size of the av sigs are perfect in my view.

[Azazel]

Since when is TPU like other communities? IMO, I think its perfectly fine the way it is. But meh, to each his own I guess.

i was not talking about the community...:) ...just the sites let you have bigger sigs

[Exavier]

I honestly don't have a problem, maybe another text line would be nice, but I'm not complaining.

Second, if you were gonna offer flash embeds, stipulate they have a play button..otherwise you get what I did over at another site...clashing sounds, and headaches..

[HTC]

This is my regular sig resized to this site's current sig size:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/500 by 100.jpg


Azazel's proposal, with same sig, resized again:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/500 by 150.jpg


My proposal, with same sig, resized again:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/400 by 150.jpg


It's far too squished for the current size and if i shorten it's width, you can't see it that well ...

With this example, my proposal looks better.

And yes: i'm an One Piece fan!

[JrRacinFan]

just the sites let you have bigger sigs

Which sites/forums? How long is the full load time for them?

[HTC]

Which sites/forums? How long is the full load time for them?

You have a point there: this site is VERY crowded, which is why i asked W1zzard that question in post #13.

If the hit was big with the transition, then i totally understand why not to increase otherwise, i don't see why not.

[Azazel]

Which sites/forums? How long is the full load time for them?

http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm
http://www.onrpg.com/boards/
http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums

[W1zzard]

there wont be any server side load problem with any size of signature or other eye candy.

the problem is page loading times, the bigger sigs/avatars are the slower a page is to load.

maybe we could remove the [img] tag so you cant link external sigs which go above the size limit anymore and give you more area but the same KBs

[Azazel]

there wont be any server side load problem with any size of signature or other eye candy.

the problem is page loading times, the bigger sigs/avatars are the slower a page is to load.

maybe we could remove the [img] tag so you cant link external sigs which go above the size limit anymore and give you more area but the same KBs

yes that would be great....:)

[W1zzard]

26.4 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
22.3 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
13.3 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.html
7.9 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242

[Azazel]

26.4 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
22.3 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
13.3 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.html
7.9 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242


26 seconds??? it opens up in a flash for me...and i don't have that fast of an internet...

[HTC]

there wont be any server side load problem with any size of signature or other eye candy.

the problem is page loading times, the bigger sigs/avatars are the slower a page is to load.

maybe we could remove the [img] tag so you cant link external sigs which go above the size limit anymore and give you more area but the same KBs

That's what i meant:

I can give you an example of a site that takes a while to fully load (in my case, anyway):

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg

Whether it's their sig size, adds or something else, i don't know but i would HATE to see it happen to TPU.

If the load times don't increase that much, percentage wise) or if your suggestion works better, i don't see a problem with the increase.

[W1zzard]

26 seconds??? it opens up in a flash for me...and i don't have that fast of an internet...

cleared your cache? use firefox YSlow addon to measure the loading time

[WhiteLotus]

Having only just got a clubhouse sig i dont really like the idea of wider sig's i like as many post as i can to fit on one screen so i don't have to keep scrolling down. Call it lazy if you wish but i like to read the post fluently and not get interupted by the sheer amount of rubbish people have in thier sig's - i am personally thinking of making my own - the same length but alot narrower; just to give some personal attachement to my posts and to keep the thread from being broken up by everyone's sig's

my2c

[W1zzard]

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg

ouch .. server located in singapore, seems to be overloaded, page html design doesnt allow progressive rendering... bad bad

[HTC]

ouch .. server located in singapore, seems to be overloaded, page html design doesnt allow progressive rendering... bad bad

That's an example of how bad it can be. I'd HATE for it to happen with this site!

26.4 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
22.3 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
13.3 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.html
7.9 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242

Let's say, as an example, that an eventual increase in the sig size would increase the time to load of the TPU page to ... say ... 8.5 or even 9 seconds: would that be bad?

[DanTheBanjoman]

What exactly is the added value of signatures in the first place? Do they help you understand your or somebody elses problems? Do they attract you to the site, browsing the site all day long looking at sigs. Do they do anything useful?

On the negative side they do increase loading times and 150 pixels = 20% of my screen height (10x7 on my laptop).

[Polaris573]

Looking at two posts with two 150 px signatures 1/3 of my screen (1280x1024) would be taken up by signature pictures. I've been to other forums with larger limits and besides longer page load times, having to search through large signature pictures to find a line of text his extraordinarily frustrating. Most of your signature pictures are an amalgamation of corporate logos smashed together in a haphazard fashion. How much space do you really need to express your corporatism and brand loyalty?

[thoughtdisorder]

I'll chime in even though I don't have any sig set up, I think it's fine the way it is. Don't forget that our load times with our rigs will be faster than most of the folks who come here looking for help. If it takes forever for their page to load here they just might go somewhere else.:twitch:

[HTC]

Looking at two posts with two 150 px signatures 1/3 of my screen (1280x1024) would be taken up by signature pictures. I've been to other forums with larger limits and besides longer page load times, having to search through large signature pictures to find a line of text his extraordinarily frustrating. Most of your signature pictures are an amalgamation of corporate logos smashed together in a haphazard fashion. How much space do you really need to express your corporatism and brand loyalty?

A point of view that is totally understandable.

I agree that many sigs leave much to be desired, in that respect.

Currently, and although my monitor supports up to 2048 by 1536, i have it @ 1280 by 1024 because the letters become too small and i don't like to increase the size of the letters with that windows option, but that's just me.


Maybe in a near future, when the average PC monitor has a resolution no smaller then 1600 by 1200.

[Darknova]

I don't like any pictures in sigs..I know I used to have one, but meh, it just got old, it was pointless, and took up space.

Text only sigs would be much better IMO.

[Triprift]

Yeah apsolutely i got good speed internet but alot of ppl dont so got to cater for everyone. Dan the only thing about whats good about sigs is that they can create an identity along with the avvy and can give members a chance to be creative my 2cents worth.

[Azazel]

well rtip explained why i wanted bigger sig space...but allot of people are against it so....hehe....i guess its a no..lol

[HTC]

Looking at two posts with two 150 px signatures 1/3 of my screen (1280x1024) would be taken up by signature pictures. I've been to other forums with larger limits and besides longer page load times, having to search through large signature pictures to find a line of text his extraordinarily frustrating. Most of your signature pictures are an amalgamation of corporate logos smashed together in a haphazard fashion. How much space do you really need to express your corporatism and brand loyalty?

Another point of view and since you have the same monitor resolution as me:

check from the beginning of post 36 and not the beginning of the page and tell me how many posts you see? Do you see any sigs in them?

Many times, the entire post, including the sig, is smaller then the poster's information, on the left side.

Including this post.

[JrRacinFan]

well rtip explained why i wanted bigger sig space...but allot of people are against it so....hehe....i guess its a no..lol

Im not against it, neither am I for it, but my question is why when the change is fairly minimal but the way it is works fine. Change is good, but what isn't broken can't be fixed. ;)

[Azazel]

Im not against it, neither am I for it, but my question is why when the change is fairly minimal but the way it is works fine. Change is good, but what isn't broken can't be fixed. ;)

yeah change is good...also its hard to compare it to other sites...as they allow gifs is sigs and ava and also some sites have there own uniques forums so they are pretty intensive as well .....i just don't think it will slow down the site as people say it will...as only a handful of people have pics in there sigs in the first place...

[Polaris573]

Another point of view and since you have the same monitor resolution as me:

check from the beginning of post 36 and not the beginning of the page and tell me how many posts you see? Do you see any sigs in them?

Many times, the entire post, including the sig, is smaller then the poster's information, on the left side.

Including this post.

Yes I know there would usually still only be two posts per screen, but I would still have to search between the pictures to find the text and 1/3 of my screen would still be filled with pictures that, more often than not, I would not like. A little open space makes the forums feel less cluttered. I think the pictures sizes are fine the way they are. However, that's just my opinion 500x150 would not really be that much worse, but it isn't really "better" either.

[panchoman]

i agree with polaris that its not going to really make things better or worse besides adding some extra loading time for the slower computers. personally, i think that the poster information on the left should be revamped. there should be pull down for all of the info like location join date, etc. and there should be multiple system specs in one pull down so that people dont have to use their sigs for that..

edit: also all of the extra space at the bottom of people's posts should be removed.. this way there can be more posts per screen and it'll make it so that even with larger sigs.. posts per screen still remains relatively the same.

[Kreij]

Text only sigs. Three line maximum. Fixed font size (any color).
You can put your fanboiism in your avatar if you want.

That's my opinion.

[Triprift]

No wai i love my sig hands off :laugh:

[Pinchy]

Yup I find big sigs annoying as well. Prefer them as they are, if not, smaller :D

But on that same note, you don't just want post after post after post of plain ole text.

[WhiteLotus]

...and there should be multiple system specs in one pull down so that people dont have to use their sigs for that..

now that is a good idea - the option of them anyway. If you don't need one then a checkbox that says its another system doesn't get checked etc

[panchoman]

multiple system specs:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/Capture294.gif

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

26.4 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
22.3 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
13.3 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.html
7.9 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242

9.519 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
3.252 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
2.679 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.htm
4.176 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242

Just saying.

[Azazel]

9.519 seconds - http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175197
3.252 seconds - http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=177723
2.679 seconds - http://www.onrpg.com/boards/87569.htm
4.176 seconds - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=759242#post759242

Just saying.

thats seem more right...:)

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

multiple system specs:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/Capture294.gif

+1

Id love that. Or even an option (as well as the current system spec information just give an option of which one to use) like overclock.net has.

Like this:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/system specs.jpg

That shows up in a sig like this:
http://www.overclock.net/3734323-post7.html

Ive seen many forums like this and I love it.

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

10.293 seconds for hardwarezone.

[das müffin mann]

i personally like the way they are there nice but not to overpowering as to not to take away from the main purpose of the site, they dont make things look to plain while at the same time they are not to distracting
also i would like our images to be maybe like 21kb max insted of 19 that would be the only thing i would maybe want to change

also i love the idea for multiple system specs (we should have a spot for keyboard and mouse)

[HTC]

multiple system specs:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080421/Capture294.gif

Most EXCELLENT, dude!

+1

[Azazel]

yeah multi system will be cool...

[hat]

No. Not only does it cost TPU more bandwidth, but I hate big sigs. I've seen forums with people using avatars as big as 640x480 and sigs that took up nearly the whole screen (when I was using 1024x768)

Multi system specs however, yes.

[Skrabrug]

how about unlimited size, area, flash signatures with music embedded?

does it come with a free GPS?

[Thermopylae_480]

I would like to take the time to remind everyone that there are many of you who are currently in violation of this rule. Remember, the current signature limit is no greater than 100px x 500px, and 19.5 Kb. Many of you are linking to outside sites to host your signatures to get around this limitation. This slows down the site since it has to load images from many different sites which may be slower than TPU. Please use the provided upload applet in the signature section of UserCP, this allows us to have quicker load times since the signatures are locally hosted, and also lets you know that your signature image is not in violation of the current size limitations.

[Thermopylae_480]

For those of you unfamiliar with the provided upload application for signatures go to
UserCP > Edit Signature > then scroll down to the bottom of the page where you will see an upload bar.

[ShadowFold]

I like the multisystem specs alot!

[imperialreign]

I would like to take the time to remind everyone that there are many of you who are currently in violation of this rule. Remember, the current signature limit is no greater than 100px x 500px, and 19.5 Kb. Many of you are linking to outside sites to host your signatures to get around this limitation. This slows down the site since it has to load images from many different sites which may be slower than TPU. Please use the provided upload applet in the signature section of UserCP, this allows us to have quicker load times since the signatures are locally hosted, and also lets you know that your signature image is not in violation of the current size limitations.

agreed. If image size is an issue - ask a forum user who runs photoshop to adjust the image compression when saving it; most images can be cut down to the 19.5Kb limit without any noticeable spoiling of the image.

No. Not only does it cost TPU more bandwidth, but I hate big sigs. I've seen forums with people using avatars as big as 640x480 and sigs that took up nearly the whole screen (when I was using 1024x768)

Multi system specs however, yes.

agreed as well - there's too many sites out there that let users upload their whold photobucket account as a sig, and it's aggrivating as hell having to hit the scroll wheel three times just to hurdle someones sig. Same goes for the 350x780 avatars out there as well.

At least here, IMO, we're given the freedom to use pratcially whatever we want (within reason) for an avatar and sig image - coupled with being able to slap on multi-quotes, links and other odds and ends that don't take up too much space - as long as we stay within the image limitations. Granted, for the vast majority of us on broadband, load times aren't a big deal; but for the users still stuck with dial-up, having to wait 5min for a 5MB sig image to load shouldn't have to be dealt with.

[JrRacinFan]

Thanks thermo for showing me that.

[Nitro-Max]

lowest i can get mine in jpg format is 30kb and thats at 100px X 311px lower than allowed and image quality sucks bad.
guess ill have to do without a sig its no big deal but 19.5k isnt alot at all.

rules are rules and im happy to comply with them but the forums full of outside links screenshots allsorts photobucket.. and all break the 19.5k mark by alot.

[imperialreign]

lowest i can get mine in jpg format is 30kb and thats at 100px X 311px lower than allowed and image quality sucks bad.
guess ill have to do without a sig its no big deal but 19.5k isnt alot at all.

rules are rules and im happy to comply with them but the forums full of outside links screenshots allsorts photobucket.. and all break the 19.5k mark by alot.

tell ya what - PM me the image you want to use as a sig, and let me see if I can't get it to meet the specs with Photoshop . . . cool?! :toast:

[Triprift]

I dont no all u members breaking the rules lol

[spearman914]

The only things id liked changed with avvy sigs is animated avvy/sigs i no it wont happen but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever. :D:D

Didn;t understand a word (but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever) WHAT THE HELL?!!

[das müffin mann]

Didn;t understand a world (but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever) WHAT THE HELL?!!

i understood every word...

[Triprift]

Didn;t understand a word (but i can dream cant i and make it to were u cant change ur avvy ever) WHAT THE HELL?!!

I was talking abot azazels avvy dude :p

[Nitro-Max]

"http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3830/tf2sigv1copysz0.png"

you're better to remove that shadowfold thats out side linking.

[imperialreign]

@nitro - pick up the attachment. I tried hosting it through imageshack, but that was bumping the file size up to 19.8 for some odd reason.


<edit> - removed.

@nitro - curious . . . how come your sig is now 12Kb?

[Nitro-Max]

@nitro - pick up the attachment. I tried hosting it through imageshack, but that was bumping the file size up to 19.8 for some odd reason.


<edit> - removed.

@nitro - curious . . . how come your sig is now 12Kb?

thanks alot for that m8 looks alot better than my attempt got it down to 30kb and the image was no good.
top man!:toast:

[Nitro-Max]

mmm it says 19.4kb when i saved it??

[das müffin mann]

i just tested something for some reason photobucket added an extra 10kb onto the size of my file, if you upload it through tpu it cut the file size in half (for me anyway)

[Nitro-Max]

ur right Imperialreign the image is 19.5kb on my pc and is a little bigger but uploaded it looks smaller?

[spearman914]

ur right Imperialreign the image is 19.5kb on my pc and is a little bigger but uploaded it looks smaller?

It would be so stupid if the limit was 19500 Bytes but the sig was 1950"1" Bytes and it has to be removed.

[DanTheBanjoman]

This is how I browse the forums half the day:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/Capture001.jpg
Seriously, how much actual information is on that screen?

[btarunr]

26 seconds??? it opens up in a flash for me...and i don't have that fast of an internet...

Not everyone lives in the UK or US. Internet bandwidth isn't uniform throughout. People come here to solve IT problems primarily, all the bling and show are some of the last things this forum sets to achieve.

[Wile E]

I vote no on the sig change. I think the aspect ratio of the current sigs are perfect.

[zaqwsx]

I wouldn't mind a bigger sig.

[cdawall]

if you know how to tweak the image 19.5 kb is just fine and honestly why do you need a bigger sig?

i think 450x50 is just fine and we should lower the size limit so more stuff shows on the screen

[Thermopylae_480]

This is just about ego, and attention seeking in my opinion. Some people need something in everything they do that says, "Hey everyone!! Look at me!! I'm important!! I'm the center of attention!!" I honestly can't think of any other legitimate reason for larger, and larger signatures, or the display of copious amounts of quotes and information.

The only reason I've seen for bigger signatures, is "Hey... uh... yeah, I think larger signatures would be totally neat. We need larger signatures!"

Which only re-enforces my opinion.

[JrRacinFan]

You know there was talk a while ago about doing away with sigs. And if it's pushed hard enough it may be done.

Talking about bigger sigs and the such. Not needed.

[Polaris573]

I don't ever remember talk about getting rid of signatures. Maybe you just remember the discussion over whether we should have signatures pictures in the first place. Obviously it was decided we should.

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah, it was a long time ago, before I was a member and visited the forums often to read up on the ATi 9x00 softmods.

[Polaris573]

Yeah, back when the 9x00 series was big was when the forums were first getting a start. So it probably was when we decided to have them.

[erocker]

Cdawall has the perfect size sig pic in my opinion.:) Nice and skinny.

[cdawall]

an example of why big sigs suck look what i am able to read off here

http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/bigsig.png

[PVTCaboose1337]

I like the size of the sigs now. Making them bigger is trying to make up for something...

[Nitro-Max]

tbh the amount of moaning over stupid sig sizes might as well just get rid of them altogether i really cant see the problem you can post as much crap in a thread as you want like desktop screen shots which are uber kb's and uber in size which slow forums much more than sigs yet anything over 19.5kb sigs get moaned about? im not bitching i just dont see the logic in the sig size thing so wont it be best to just stop sigs???

my sig is 19.5kb but when i uploaded it its been reduced to just over 12kb looks poor and i dont see it as attention seeking look at me!! either its information for other users and a form of personal expression.but if thats how im seen by others im removing it.

[HTC]

Why not limit the size of the written sig? Or maybe a max size (height) for written + image sigs?

cdawall's example is extreme but illustrates the point:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/bigsig048.png

Let's suppose that, by some miracle, the image of this sig was within TPU's sig image's size limit (and it's NOT): how much do you suppose the written part of the sig adds to it, in percentage? 120%?

@ present, some sigs can be written only and be far bigger the the allowed image size, no?

EDIT

Another example:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/2008-04-24_220940.png

Although the image is the max size allowed, it has writing before and after which adds to the total size of the sig.

[cdawall]

you are limited in size 8 lines is max and you cant have over 1000 characters including code

[Triprift]

cdawalls example from earlier is a good example do we really needa dozens of lines of stuff in a sig? Just cus its done at other forums doesnt mean we needs to implement such things here lets be unique.

[PVTCaboose1337]

When I make my sigs for people, and they request them, I always make them at 500 x 100. In the future I will make them alot smaller, including my next one, so no one else takes offense.

[HTC]

When I make my sigs for people, and they request them, I always make them at 500 x 100. In the future I will make them alot smaller, including my next one, so no one else takes offense.

You miss understood: no offense @ all, @ least to me.

Many people have argued why is best to keep it as it is, get it bigger or get it smaller but the fact is that, when sigs have image + writing they can be bigger then the allowed size of the image only.

When i copied your sig to give an example, i learned that it is 500 by 170 because of the added writing.

Another example of this:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/2008-04-24_232451.png

Although the image in this sig is only 450 by 50, the whole sig is 450 by 155.

[Nitro-Max]

the current size and width isnt the problem thats fine its getting it to look good at 19.5kb

[ex_reven]

I have a question related to post length.

Some peoples posts have large areas of white space after them?
Could this be removed? It would definately free up more space on screen.

Or is it limited by the vbulletin software?

the current size and width isnt the problem thats fine its getting it to look good at 19.5kb

Its actually very easy.
Make sure image resolution is 72DPI and use photoshop's "save for web" feature to drop the image to exactly 19.5kb.
19.5kb is quite large given the tiny image size (500x100).

The problem is not so much the compression process, its the fact that changing the size of a graphic to suit the sig dimensions often makes the image dirty/aliased.
This needs to be cleaned up a bit before saving/compressing.

[btarunr]

I have a question related to post length.

Some peoples posts have large areas of white space after them?
Could this be removed? It would definately free up more space on screen.

Or is it limited by the vbulletin software?


The 'red' portion is caused due to the information in the 'blue' portion:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080425/bta6.jpg

Is that what you meant?

[cdawall]

You miss understood: no offense @ all, @ least to me.

Many people have argued why is best to keep it as it is, get it bigger or get it smaller but the fact is that, when sigs have image + writing they can be bigger then the allowed size of the image only.

When i copied your sig to give an example, i learned that it is 500 by 170 because of the added writing.

Another example of this:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080424/2008-04-24_232451.png

Although the image in this sig is only 450 by 50, the whole sig is 450 by 155.

actually in technicality its 450x140 :cool:

[Nitro-Max]

Its actually very easy.
Make sure image resolution is 72DPI and use photoshop's "save for web" feature to drop the image to exactly 19.5kb.
19.5kb is quite large given the tiny image size (500x100).

The problem is not so much the compression process, its the fact that changing the size of a graphic to suit the sig dimensions often makes the image dirty/aliased.
This needs to be cleaned up a bit before saving/compressing.

Thanks for that thats the part i could never get right maybe you make a sticky on how to make a sig that is right for tpu.

Im not bad with graphics but ive never really been in a situation were ive had to compress as small as 19.5k i think this info would be usefull to alot of people.
Those that have never used photoshop or think its too complex try picture publisher series its pretty good program and alot more beginer friendly.

[ex_reven]

The 'red' portion is caused due to the information in the 'blue' portion:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080425/bta6.jpg

Is that what you meant?

Yeah thats what I was referring to.
If we were to sacrifice our avatars, youd probably halve the amount of space used on a page. Which means sigs could theoretically be larger (by a small margin) in both dimensions AND in filesize, since the avatar no longer needs to be loaded.

EDIT - You could alternatively make User information (date of join, location, postcount, system specs etc) all as a drop down feature to save space. OR this information could be removed entirely by option in the user CP.

The effect is not as dramatic in large posts with the use of quoting other members, but in posts with single lined comments (arguably the most common posts made on TPU) the amount of blank space is quite impressive.

[ex_reven]

heres a small, scaled illustrated example to show how much space could be saved by making user details (the ones below the avatar) into a drop box or optional in user CP form.

[btarunr]

Have you seen what the printable version looks like? http://forums.techpowerup.com/printthread.php?t=58354

[ex_reven]

Have you seen what the printable version looks like? http://forums.techpowerup.com/printthread.php?t=58354

ugly :p?

[Triprift]

This is still going keep it the same i no i sound like a broken record but honestly its great the way it is but thats just my opinion.

[ex_reven]

This is still going keep it the same i no i sound like a broken record but honestly its great the way it is but thats just my opinion.

It is fine the way it is.
But no reason not to talk about how it could be better lol.

Its all fun and games :D

[Wile E]

I actually think putting all user info in a drop down would be great.

[ex_reven]

I actually think putting all user info in a drop down would be great.

Yeah I was thinking of it.
Really we only look at it if we need to see someones system specs since we know most of the people on the forums and their post counts etc.

[Nitro-Max]

This was a frustrating task for me i didnt think i could get good image quality at 19.5k i kept killing my sigs or making them even smaller than required but thanks to Ex revens advice its possible and with good results so now i vote keep it as is. It doesnt need to be changed.

[Azazel]

im not really bothered with the sig size anymore :p
i like my new sig..:p

[thoughtdisorder]

My vote is Again, fine the way it is. No offense, but there is enough "fan boyism" already. I love all you guys, but the site is awesome the way it is. My 2 pennies.........:cool:

[Polaris573]

Previous posts have been deleted. Please stay on topic, this is not the general nonsense section. If you want to discuss your attraction to someone's signature picture then do it elsewhere.

[blobster21]

Signatures and avatars are turned off here, they serve no purpose and are ugly most of the time. That must be an e-penis things IMO....

[Nitro-Max]

Signatures and avatars are turned off here, they serve no purpose and are ugly most of the time. That must be an e-penis things IMO....

Not always m8 some have Informational purposes and some are just a way of self expression and creativeness.

[Azazel]

why do you have an avatar then?

[Nitro-Max]

I find azazels avatar very pleasing to the eye's id glady look at her all day :laugh:

But for creativity and possibly self expression i like polaris573's sig i love anything to do with space.