selling my G80 320mb what should i buy instead?

[mullered07]

selling my 320mb g80 on fleabay (along with a few other things including my Raptor (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WD-Raptor-36GB-internal-3-5-HD-SATA-150-10000RPM_W0QQitemZ110245289842QQihZ001QQcategoryZ1 6178QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) if anyones interested ;) ) and am looking to get a new graphics card, obviousley i dont want to downgrade my problem is for the price im looking to spend i dont know if i have many upgrade options, £150 which looking around will get me a 8800gt or a 9600gt but is there going to be any perf gain from either of these cards?? also the only other option is the hd3870 xt not too sure about ati since i got this 8800gts but would consider the best bang for buck.

1 more thought would it be possible to pay someone in the states to order me one off newegg if there prices are better and pay for shipping here ? thx in advance

[Silverel]

Uh, you might wanna pull that sale, nothing wrong with the 8800gts g80. Marginal upgrades all around unless you feel like spending on a GTX/Ultra or X2.

[Darknova]

£130 will get you a decent 3870.

£150 will get you a decent 8800GT

both 512Mb.

Personally I am more than happy with my 3870 (Well, before I killed it lol), plays Assassins' creed at 1680x1050 at full really nicely. Plays Crysis, same res at mostly high.

The 8800GT of course does perform better, but eh. Does what I want.

[mullered07]

well i might be able to get the old 8800gtx 768mb for around £160, is that a noticeable improvement ? also what about ati's offerings? the only thing i can think of aside from the 3850/70 x2 is a 3870xt but that doesnt look like it will be much of an upgrade due to price £120+

anyone wanna ship me a card over from the US LOL hate the way we pay lots more over here, if i had $300 to spend on newegg what kinda cards could i be looking at ?

[hat]

A GTX for £160 is one hell of a deal and the GTX will be quite an improvement over the GTS

[calvary1980]

keep in mind you have a 19" display either pull the sale or purchase an 8800gs or 9600GT I would recommend the Galaxy 8800GS it's the only kind to use 0.8ns Samsung memory and comes with a HDMI port it's available in the UK.

- Christine

[Darknova]

well i might be able to get the old 8800gtx 768mb for around £160, is that a noticeable improvement ? also what about ati's offerings? the only thing i can think of aside from the 3850/70 x2 is a 3870xt but that doesnt look like it will be much of an upgrade due to price £120+

anyone wanna ship me a card over from the US LOL hate the way we pay lots more over here, if i had $300 to spend on newegg what kinda cards could i be looking at ?

Pfft. Get an 8800GT if u want to stick nvidia, performs the same as the GTX at low resolutions, uses much less power, is slightly cheaper, and is newer tech. Not to mention you only game at 1440x900.

And there is no such thing as the 3870XT. There is the 3850 and 3870, and 3870X2, that's it.

[calvary1980]

8800GT is way too much for a 19" display unless you know your going to shell out $300 for a new display.

- Christine

[Darknova]

8800GT is way too much for a 19" display unless you know your going to shell out $300 for a new display.

- Christine

Could be the next step couldn't it? Why shell out for an 8800GS, then get a new display, then pay for a card that will run at the higher res....if he can afford to get an 8800GT then I really think he should, I don't however believe he should go for an older G80...purely because it's just that, older.

[mullered07]

Pfft. Get an 8800GT if u want to stick nvidia, performs the same as the GTX at low resolutions, uses much less power, is slightly cheaper, and is newer tech. Not to mention you only game at 1440x900.

And there is no such thing as the 3870XT. There is the 3850 and 3870, and 3870X2, that's it.

8800gt performs the same as a gtx ? link

also i game on my 32" 1080i tv sometimes too

so why the hell are companies labelling 3870's as pro/xt

asus 3870xt (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-145-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=416)

[calvary1980]

if he purchases an 8800gs he will get a good product, save money and have more options for future upgrades.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-GALAXY-9600GSO-8800GS-384MB-2-Yrs-Warranty_W0QQitemZ270229973333QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3 762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

- Christine

[Darknova]

8800gt performs the same as a gtx ? link

also i game on my 32" 1080i tv sometimes too

so why the hell are companies labelling 3870's as pro/xt

asus 3870xt (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-145-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=416)

Yes, at lower resolutions. IE 1680 and below, 1920 and above the GTX walks over it due to the larger memory bus, and to be honest I don't have a link, quick google search should get you something :)

[mullered07]

keep in mind you have a 19" display either pull the sale or purchase an 8800gs or 9600GT I would recommend the Galaxy 8800GS it's the only kind to use 0.8ns Samsung memory and comes with a HDMI port it's available in the UK.

- Christine

surely the 8800gs (384mb one right ? ) isnt going to have any perf increase at all over my current as its practicly the same card on paper ?

[Darknova]

if he purchases an 8800gs he will get a good product, save money and have more options for future upgrades.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAND-NEW-GALAXY-9600GSO-8800GS-384MB-2-Yrs-Warranty_W0QQitemZ270229973333QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3 762QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

- Christine

Heh, I never said it wouldn't be a good product. It is, for his current set up, and he may save money in the short term, but he won't have more options. In fact he'd have less money in the long run, and less options.

If he upgraded to a bigger monitor he'd need a more powerful card, so not only has he just bought a new monitor, but also needs to buy a new card to run at the higher resolutions with all his prefered eye candy turned on.

I personally don't think the price difference right now is enough to outweigh the cost of buying a new monitor and then being forced to get a brand new card because it can't drive it...

[calvary1980]

8800GT is still too much for his system he won't fully utilize the card with his display, 8800GS is on par with the GTS but it has a new core so it will be more cooler (despite being single slot) and efficient.

- Christine

[mullered07]

im not getting a new monitor period!! lol like i said i sometimes game on my tv 1080i, i also like buying better hardware than i have now regardless wether i need to or not (its an addiction ya know :wtf:) i like benching aswell. hence why i want the best/ most powerful card for my money, the 8800gs looks like my card revamped im not into it at all, the gt is a possibility but still only a modest upgrade from what i believe, i may have to add some funds and fork out for a g92 gts or a 9800gtx.

back onto what i was saying before would it be possible for me to pay someone from the US to buy me a 9800gtx and ship it here, $300 for the card from the egg 3 days free shipping and around $30 for shipping here ? still a lot cheaper than the uk @ £200/$400

[hat]

I would get a 9600GT. Around the same price as an 8800GS and slightly more futureproof.

[calvary1980]

if you know your going to game on 1080i than you should probably get a GTS.

- Christine

[kylew]

Pfft. Get an 8800GT if u want to stick nvidia, performs the same as the GTX at low resolutions, uses much less power, is slightly cheaper, and is newer tech. Not to mention you only game at 1440x900.

And there is no such thing as the 3870XT. There is the 3850 and 3870, and 3870X2, that's it.

THANK YOU! Everywhere I see everyone going on about 3850Pros and 3870XTs! They don't exist! But they don't listen when you tell them that :shadedshu. Oh well :D.

On-topic - I reckon you'd be better with an ATi 38XX card, DX10.1 has shown it's more than just a gimmick, even though nvidia were heavily playing it down, saying it was worthless and so on, 20% improvement worthless? :laugh:, plus, you can get a 3870 for less than £105 now: Linkage (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140852). 3870s can more than hold their own at 1920x1200, I had a 2900XT for about 6 months, it played most of my games maxed at 1920x1200, albeit with the later drivers that brought the performance increases. I upgraded to a 3870X2 because I wanted something new to play with, and I got a decent price for my 2900 (£80). Either way, regardless of res, keep away from cards that have below 512MB of RAM, it's not practical to get one anymore, as they're not that much cheaper, and you can't have too much graphics ram.

[mullered07]

so how much faster is that going to be than my g80 ?

[kylew]

so how much faster is that going to be than my g80 ?

Well, the 2900XT ended up being faster than than the g80 640MB GTS. I'm not too sure about the exact amount (some one correct me if I'm way off), I think it was about 10% in the end, and the 3870 is about 10% faster than a 2900XT, so I reckon the 3870 would be around 20% faster than an 8800GTS 320MB, even more so if you overclock it, you should easily get 800Mhz on the core, I can get 930 on both cores on my 3870X2 :).

[mullered07]

Well, the 2900XT ended up being faster than than the g80 640MB GTS. I'm not too sure about the exact amount (some one correct me if I'm way off), I think it was about 10% in the end, and the 3870 is about 10% faster than a 2900XT, so I reckon the 3870 would be around 20% faster than an 8800GTS 320MB, even more so if you overclock it, you should easily get 800Mhz on the core, I can get 930 on both cores on my 3870X2 :).

sod it im gonna have a rumage around and sell soem more crap on fleabay (also got £70 coming from a friend who owes me this week) and go for the 9800gtx, cheapest uk price i can find is £190 shipped for an msi card on fleabay (new)

hey from liverpool :rockout: u a red or a blue lol :wtf:

[BarbaricSoul]

Well, the 2900XT ended up being faster than than the g80 640MB GTS. I'm not too sure about the exact amount (some one correct me if I'm way off), I think it was about 10% in the end, and the 3870 is about 10% faster than a 2900XT, so I reckon the 3870 would be around 20% faster than an 8800GTS 320MB, even more so if you overclock it, you should easily get 800Mhz on the core, I can get 930 on both cores on my 3870X2 :).

Honestly, from experience in owning a 320 gts, and going by what I read about the 3870's(never owned one though), I would say the increase might be more than 20%. My 320 gts gave about the same performance in crysis as my 512 meg 8600gt and only benched 2000 points higher on 3dmark06 running with a x2 5200 90nm cpu, 2 gigs ddr2 800 ram and 570 sli chipset motherboard(4000 pts with the 8600gt and 6000 pts with the 8800gts)

[mullered07]

Honestly, from experience in owning a 320 gts, and going by what I read about the 3870's(never owned one though), I would say the increase might be more than 20%. My 320 gts gave about the same performance in crysis as my 512 meg 8600gt and only benched 2000 points higher on 3dmark06 running with a x2 5200 90nm cpu, 2 gigs ddr2 800 ram and 570 sli chipset motherboard(4000 pts with the 8600gt and 6000 pts with the 8800gts)

think youll find you were cpu limited as i scored 6000 with my 8600gts and nearly 10k with this 8800gts with more room to oc and i would be damn pissed after paying £180 for this card in august last year if it gave me the same performance as an 8600 in crysis :p

[BarbaricSoul]

back onto what i was saying before would it be possible for me to pay someone from the US to buy me a 9800gtx and ship it here, $300 for the card from the egg 3 days free shipping and around $30 for shipping here ? still a lot cheaper than the uk @ £200/$400

You know anyone in the states you could trust with the $300 not to rip you off?

Also, I'm not totally sure $30 would get the card acorss the pond to you(stands on beach and waves)

[mullered07]

You know anyone in the states you could trust with the $300 not to rip you off?

Also, I'm not totally sure $30 would get the card acorss the pond to you(stands on beach and waves)

i know a few people yea, just wondering wether it would be viable/cost effective

[BarbaricSoul]

think youll find you were cpu limited as i scored 6000 with my 8600gts and nearly 10k with this 8800gts with more room to oc and i would be damn pissed after paying £180 for this card in august last year if it gave me the same performance as an 8600 in crysis :p


Crysis played great when I got my 9800 gx2. Add the fact that the 5200 was OC'ed to 2874mhz. I know the CPU was the bottleneck, but it wasn't as much as your probably thinking.

[BarbaricSoul]

i know a few people yea, just wondering wether it would be viable/cost effective

Well, if it saves you equivalent of $100, I say hell yes, it's viable and cost effective.

[mullered07]

Crysis played great when I got my 9800 gx2. Add the fact that the 5200 was OC'ed to 2874mhz. I know the CPU was the bottleneck, but it wasn't as much as your probably thinking.

i think ur score of 6000 compared to mine of 10'000 is as much as i was thinking thats a hell of a gap there buddy and the fact crysis perf was roughly the same as your 8600 512mb even prooves that fact more, a 8800gts g80 ate the 8600 for breakfast in everything the 8600 was only slightly decent when overclocked to the hilt, i am speaking from exp aswell as ive owned both/own the 8800gts

[mdm-adph]

back onto what i was saying before would it be possible for me to pay someone from the US to buy me a 9800gtx and ship it here, $300 for the card from the egg 3 days free shipping and around $30 for shipping here ? still a lot cheaper than the uk @ £200/$400

Isn't that like "International Tariff Evasion" or something? :laugh:

Better be careful -- anything involving money and international boundaries is liable to get you on a "watch" list in America, these days. ;)

[mullered07]

Isn't that like "International Tariff Evasion" or something? :laugh:

Better be careful -- anything involving money and international boundaries is liable to get you on a "watch" list in America, these days. ;)

international what ? dont think your laws are applicable to me, anyway people ship from america all the time to the uk on ebay etc , a watch list never heard of that one lol let them "watch" me all they want the uk is one of the most watched countries in the world lol the US may aswell get there 2 cents too lol :laugh:

[mullered07]

EBAY US 9800gtx in the US £170 shipped to the UK beat that :p (http://cgi.ebay.com/PNY-Geforce-9800-GTX-512MB-Geforce-9800GTX-Retail_W0QQitemZ300218131550QQihZ020QQcategoryZ376 2QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ShippingPay ment)

[kylew]

sod it im gonna have a rumage around and sell soem more crap on fleabay (also got £70 coming from a friend who owes me this week) and go for the 9800gtx, cheapest uk price i can find is £190 shipped for an msi card on fleabay (new)

hey from liverpool :rockout: u a red or a blue lol :wtf:

Neither! :eek: I'm not into football :D

[mdm-adph]

international what ? dont think your laws are applicable to me, anyway people ship from america all the time to the uk on ebay etc , a watch list never heard of that one lol let them "watch" me all they want the uk is one of the most watched countries in the world lol the US may aswell get there 2 cents too lol :laugh:

Yeah, people ship to Europe over Ebay all the time, and unless stuff has changed, you have to pay taxes on it when it gets there. :p (I thought you were implying the whole "declaring as a gift thing" to save money.)

And for God's sake, they're called "periods." Use them occasionaly. :laugh:

[kylew]

EBAY US 9800gtx in the US £170 shipped to the UK beat that :p (http://cgi.ebay.com/PNY-Geforce-9800-GTX-512MB-Geforce-9800GTX-Retail_W0QQitemZ300218131550QQihZ020QQcategoryZ376 2QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ShippingPay ment)

9800GTX = Rip off! :D For a 19" screen, it's quite overkill, BUT, call me an ATi fanboy if you want (:D) but their 48XX cards are coming out soon (possibly may) hold off till then atleast, you should be able to get a killer card for cheaper than that 9800GTX. :)

[kylew]

Yeah, people ship to Europe over Ebay all the time, and unless stuff has changed, you have to pay taxes on it when it gets there. :p (I thought you were implying the whole "declaring as a gift thing" to save money.)

And for God's sake, they're called "periods." Use them occasionaly. :laugh:

That's also true, if your package is "caught" you'd have to pay import duty, and VAT on top of that, and a possible customs fee? It'd end up being more than it'd cost here. It's better when you buy yourself, as you can just put it in your luggage or something.

[mullered07]

9800GTX = Rip off! :D For a 19" screen, it's quite overkill, BUT, call me an ATi fanboy if you want (:D) but their 48XX cards are coming out soon (possibly may) hold off till then atleast, you should be able to get a killer card for cheaper than that 9800GTX. :)

i believe you didnt read my 2 posts on the first page stating i also game on my 32" 1080i tv :rolleyes:

ive always bought stuff from international sellers and never had to pay any extra taxes

and btw u sound like an idiot correcting someone for there grammer, i type a lot if i dont want to out in a comma or a "period" i wont if you cant understand my posts thats your problem :shadedshu

[kylew]

I believe you didn't read my 2 posts on the first page stating i also game on my 32" 1080i tv :rolleyes:.

I've always bought stuff from international sellers and never had to pay any extra taxes,

and btw, you sound like an idiot correcting someone for their grammar, I type a lot if I don't want to put in a comma or a "period" I wont if you cant understand my posts that's your problem :shadedshu

Hey, I didn't say anything about your grammar and punctuation, but I can if you want?^ ;) :D

Joking aside, a 9800GTX is still a rip off, either get an 8800GTS G92, a 3870, or wait until the ATi 48XX come out, 1080i is no better than 720p really, is it actually a screen with a res of 1920x1080, or is it a 1366x768 screen that can accept a 1080i input?

[mullered07]

Hey, I didn't say anything about your grammar and punctuation, but I can if you want?^ ;) :D

Joking aside, a 9800GTX is still a rip off, either get an 8800GTS G92, a 3870, or wait until the ATi 48XX come out, 1080i is no better than 720p really, is it actually a screen with a res of 1920x1080, or is it a 1366x768 screen that can accept a 1080i input?

not u on the grammer lol

no its a true 1080i :slap: its 1080p btw not I (1920x1080 non interlaced)

[mdm-adph]

and btw u sound like an idiot correcting someone for there grammer, i type a lot if i dont want to out in a comma or a "period" i wont if you cant understand my posts thats your problem :shadedshu

No, it's your problem, because (and I'll take a little of your likely vernacular, here) you're the one typing like a wanker.

It's not that I can't understand your posts; it's that I'm having to read over things again and again just so that I can sort of "imagine" where a normal person might put appropriate punctuation.

I make a lot of allowances when going to this board -- I understand that a lot of its visitors may be young kids (maybe you haven't had grammar class yet) and/or may be from another country where English isn't your native tongue. That's cool -- I can deal with it.

You don't want to capitalize. Fine. You don't want to spell things correctly -- that's cool too.

But for the love of all things good and holy, use periods and commas here and there. They're just one key on your keyboard, and they're positioned in a way so that it should be natural to press them along with whatever else you're typing.

[kylew]

my 32" 1080i tv :rolleyes:

:D, my comment still stands though, ;) I also have a 1080p TV, 9800 GTX = you bending over. :D

[will]

sod it im gonna have a rumage around and sell soem more crap on fleabay (also got £70 coming from a friend who owes me this week) and go for the 9800gtx, cheapest uk price i can find is £190 shipped for an msi card on fleabay (new)

hey from liverpool :rockout: u a red or a blue lol :wtf:

Do you really think the 9800gtx is worth that much more than a gt/gts 512? In benchmarks the 512gts and the 9800gtx are pretty much equal (after all the gtx is basically a slightly overclocked gts 512)... you can get a gt for £110 new or a gts for about £140, spending £80 more than a gt for a minimal performance improvement REALLY isnt worth it IMO...

[WarhammerTX]

I had a 8800gts 320 meg card that scored 9672 on 3dmark06 and replaced it with a hd 3870 and it runs a 10928 in 3dmark06. Is the 3dmark faster yes did I really notice a difference gaming between the cards NO.

[asb2106]

Do you really think the 9800gtx is worth that much more than a gt/gts 512? In benchmarks the 512gts and the 9800gtx are pretty much equal (after all the gtx is basically a slightly overclocked gts 512)... you can get a gt for £110 new or a gts for about £140, spending £80 more than a gt for a minimal performance improvement REALLY isnt worth it IMO...

the 9800GTX and the G92 GTS are the same chips. The only difference is the ROPS and the clocks.

OC a GTS and you have yourself a 9800GTX basically

I had a 8800gts 320 meg card that scored 9672 on 3dmark06 and replaced it with a hd 3870 and it runs a 10928 in 3dmark06. Is the 3dmark faster yes did I really notice a difference gaming between the cards NO.

The larger amount of RAM on the ATI will allow better FPS on high rez. And that little difference could be the difference between barely playable, and playable

[kylew]

No, it's your problem, because (and I'll take a little of your likely vernacular, here) you're the one typing like a wanker.

It's not that I can't understand your posts; it's that I'm having to read over things again and again just so that I can sort of "imagine" where a normal person might put appropriate punctuation.

I make a lot of allowances when going to this board -- I understand that a lot of its visitors may be young kids (maybe you haven't had grammar class yet) and/or may be from another country where English isn't your native tongue. That's cool -- I can deal with it.

You don't want to capitalize. Fine. You don't want to spell things correctly -- that's cool too.

But for the love of all things good and holy, use periods and commas here and there. They're just one key on your keyboard, and they're positioned in a way so that it should be natural to press them along with whatever else you're typing.

No offence to mullered07, but I'm with mdm-adph on this one. I really hate to see bad spelling and punctuation. The thing that annoys me the most is when people over use apostrophes to the point of it being ridiculous. Overclock'ed? OC'd? Spec'd? BIOS'? Makes me angry :mad: lol :D. I'd love to know where they learn to use their apostrophes.

I bet I get ignored now :rolleyes: :D

[kylew]

I had a 8800gts 320 meg card that scored 9672 on 3dmark06 and replaced it with a hd 3870 and it runs a 10928 in 3dmark06. Is the 3dmark faster yes did I really notice a difference gaming between the cards NO.

At your res, 1440x900 is a pretty low res, the differences come into play when playing at a higher res, and or more demanding games with higher res textures, otherwise you wouldn't actually notice much difference since your games would have most probably been at playable frame rates already. Newer games will require more RAM for higher res textures.

[Thermopylae_480]

Please stop correcting other's grammar. It only causes conflict. The misuse of the English language is rampant; it is apparently to much effort to make even the slightest attempt at common courtesy. We will all just have to continue to decipher the lackadaisical posts of others, because they will never change.

[Exavier]

mullered mate bear in mind you could well end up paying £30 (in GBP, yes) for Customs Taxation considered that's what caught me out on my PSU from Paulie :shadedshu
really annoying, but if you're getting anything stateside, it should be in your suitcase, that way you get rid of all these external costs, rather than hoping it won't get screened by HMSC.

[kylew]

mullered mate bear in mind you could well end up paying £30 (in GBP, yes) for Customs Taxation considered that's what caught me out on my PSU from Paulie :shadedshu
really annoying, but if you're getting anything stateside, it should be in your suitcase, that way you get rid of all these external costs, rather than hoping it won't get screened by HMSC.

+1, even if you've never been taxed, it's not worth relying on it not happening. That's what put me off trying to get stuff shipped from the US. I have bought stuff internationally, and I have avoided getting taxed many times. The seller declared the value of the items below what is taxable, and as a gift, but it wasn't computer goods.

[mullered07]

No, it's your problem, because (and I'll take a little of your likely vernacular, here) you're the one typing like a wanker.

It's not that I can't understand your posts; it's that I'm having to read over things again and again just so that I can sort of "imagine" where a normal person might put appropriate punctuation.

I make a lot of allowances when going to this board -- I understand that a lot of its visitors may be young kids (maybe you haven't had grammar class yet) and/or may be from another country where English isn't your native tongue. That's cool -- I can deal with it.

You don't want to capitalize. Fine. You don't want to spell things correctly -- that's cool too.

But for the love of all things good and holy, use periods and commas here and there. They're just one key on your keyboard, and they're positioned in a way so that it should be natural to press them along with whatever else you're typing.


ok if you wanna pick me up for one post on here where my punctuation wasnt all it should carry on, you obviousley have nothing better to do than flame people who dont agree/find you helpful and act like a little kid calling people wankers (which the mods seem to condone from the pm i got in my inbox, nm) i would love to sit and flame you back all night but i actually have a life and was looking for constructive comments, so if you have nothing constructive to say please dont post on my thread any more. :slap:

anyway on topic, ive decided im going to wait and see how my auctions do and add a few more and decide then. I do think the 9800gtx is nice albeit a tad on the pricey side hence why im going to see what the £ situation pans out like. Thx Guys. :D

[anticlutch]

ok if you wanna pick me up for one post on here where my punctuation wasnt all it should carry on, you obviousley have nothing better to do than flame people who dont agree/find you helpful and act like a little kid calling people wankers (which the mods seem to condone from the pm i got in my inbox, nm) i would love to sit and flame you back all night but i actually have a life and was looking for constructive comments, so if you have nothing constructive to say please dont post on my thread any more. :slap:

anyway on topic, ive decided im going to wait and see how my auctions do and add a few more and decide then. I do think the 9800gtx is nice albeit a tad on the pricey side hence why im going to see what the £ situation pans out like. Thx Guys. :D

The only reason why people pick on others who cannot (or do not) use punctuation and grammar properly is because it is extremely annoying to see the English language get chopped up like that. I'm with mdm-adph on this one... if English is not your native language, or if you have not received enough schooling to use correct grammar, then that's fine. If you have gone through school, or if English is your native language, then there should be absolutely no excuse to the total absence of proper grammar. But enough with this... if people do not care enough to speak/type the language properly, that's their loss.

On topic, I think if the OP is willing to shell out the money for a 9800GTX, I'd say go for it. Personally however, I would rather keep the 8800GTS for a bit longer and wait until this summer/fall for the new products that are supposedly coming out (I'm not 100% sure on this but I think I read something about new products coming out later this year). I would also consider buying the 8800GTX as it still performs reasonably well, and can be found rather cheaply after a bit of research (used, obviously).

[mullered07]

I can totally understand if my posts were one long spiel but there not, it was referring to one 2 sentanced paragraph where i didnt put in a full stop (period) i find someone picking up on somthing like this to be EXTREMELY annoying , its actually arrogant, flipant and rude aswell if you ask me, the thread has gone way off topic because of this one person, hence why i said im going to wait and see now.

and for those that like to jump on the bandwagon as we all know people do, read the above post and tell me you have never been one to forget the odd punctuation mark? it does happen, we are human after all. we just dont need someone there to point it out and insult us when we do!!

i do type fast and i dont start every sentance with a capital letter as im posting on a forum and feel there is no need to, if i wanted to write a perfect piece of literature i wouldnt be doing it here, hell i have a résumé like most people on here do. Do i write that like i would post here ? no because its a totally different situation and i felt i didnt need to, if this is a requirment are we all meant to be sitting up straight in our chairs also when we post ? (rant over :laugh:)

[Xaser04]

I would go for this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-071-OK&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1008

£110 so money in your back pocket for future upgrades and more than enough grunt up to 1680x1050 with eye candy (AA and AF)

[kylew]

I can totally understand if my posts were one long spiel but there not, it was referring to one 2 sentanced paragraph where i didnt put in a full stop (period) i find someone picking up on somthing like this to be EXTREMELY annoying , its actually arrogant, flipant and rude aswell if you ask me, the thread has gone way off topic because of this one person, hence why i said im going to wait and see now.

and for those that like to jump on the bandwagon as we all know people do, read the above post and tell me you have never been one to forget the odd punctuation mark? it does happen, we are human after all. we just dont need someone there to point it out and insult us when we do!!

i do type fast and i dont start every sentance with a capital letter as im posting on a forum and feel there is no need to, if i wanted to write a perfect piece of literature i wouldnt be doing it here, hell i have a résumé like most people on here do. Do i write that like i would post here ? no because its a totally different situation and i felt i didnt need to, if this is a requirment are we all meant to be sitting up straight in our chairs also when we post ? (rant over :laugh:)

It's a bit more that just missing out full stops and so on. It's VERY annoying when people use 'there' for everything, when they might mean 'they're' (they are) or their. That looks pretty bad and gives the impression of being unable to use english properly. I've seen people many times use 'they're' when they are saying 'it's over they're'. When you point out that they have used the wrong word they sometimes get aggressive and aren't willing to admit they are using wrong words or even making words up. Especially when they inleta apostrophes into everything and anything, make up ways to use them. I would love to know who taught some people to use apostrophes. BIOS' has NEVER meant BIOSes, though some people think it does due to ignorance. Although I do appreciate that you yourself haven't been apostrophe injecting, i'm in a moaning mood so I'm ranting about it anyway :D

[paybackdaman]

I say buy another 8800GTS 320mb and SLI those beasts. I was told to do the same thing by someone else on these forums. Don't know if anyone put this down yet, but that is what I would recommend as it saves money and you will probably get a better FPS increase then buying a single card.

[JrRacinFan]

Mullered, after reading through your thread. Get the 8800GT and call it a day. Although payback has a point.

[mullered07]

I say buy another 8800GTS 320mb and SLI those beasts. I was told to do the same thing by someone else on these forums. Don't know if anyone put this down yet, but that is what I would recommend as it saves money and you will probably get a better FPS increase then buying a single card.

would be a good idea as i could probably pick another one up for £80 but then i'd need a new sli board and cant afford one lol ill see how the £ sitiuation pans out during the week:toast:

[mullered07]

ok i dont want the 8800gt if anything i want similar performance of the newer g92 gts. So in the running is a g92 8800gts/8800gtx/9800gtx (pricey) and what about the newer Gddr4 3870's? is there going to be a improvment over the gddr3 version ? (more oc room) and whats the perf like compared to a 8800gts G92?

[Tatty_One]

ok i dont want the 8800gt if anything i want similar performance of the newer g92 gts. So in the running is a g92 8800gts/8800gtx/9800gtx (pricey) and what about the newer Gddr4 3870's? is there going to be a improvment over the gddr3 version ? (more oc room) and whats the perf like compared to a 8800gts G92?

Just having a quick read there are some good points in here, Christine has a very good point about the 8800GS and your resolution, forget the 8800GTX at the resolution you are using, go for the 8800GTS G92 512MB, it matches the new 9800GTX in many benches, beats the GTX at you res in almost every bench, is wicked fast and damn good value, it is close enough to your budget to make it viable...............

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=720490

IMO if you really want the performance, whilst the HD3870 is good, even the GDDR4 version lags a little behind the Gt, the GTS G92 is the only option.

But as Christine says, at your res, the GS is actually not going to "appear" any slower in most things, perhaps Crysis being the exception......but who in their right mind would play such a game? :)

[Tatty_One]

No, it's your problem, because (and I'll take a little of your likely vernacular, here) you're the one typing like a wanker.

It's not that I can't understand your posts; it's that I'm having to read over things again and again just so that I can sort of "imagine" where a normal person might put appropriate punctuation.

I make a lot of allowances when going to this board -- I understand that a lot of its visitors may be young kids (maybe you haven't had grammar class yet) and/or may be from another country where English isn't your native tongue. That's cool -- I can deal with it.

You don't want to capitalize. Fine. You don't want to spell things correctly -- that's cool too.

But for the love of all things good and holy, use periods and commas here and there. They're just one key on your keyboard, and they're positioned in a way so that it should be natural to press them along with whatever else you're typing.

I think you are being a little hard on him there, yes if his grammar and punctuation is such because of laziness then thats one thing and I could easily agree with you on that, however, the last time I looked, it was not a requirement to be "literate" to join this forum, there are plenty of people out there who's native tongue is english but who may have difficulty with the written word for a whole host of reasons, sometimes we need to be a little more tolerant and patient, what if someone who perhaps struggles with written english was reading this thread as a guest and read some of the comments here, he would probably think twice before joining!....the sad thing is, by joining they could probably improve their skills.........no offence intended here, just my thoughts.

[calvary1980]

yes but he also mentioned after he was gaming on his television 1080i (1920x?) so I recommended the GTS instead.

Thanks Tatty.

- Christine

[Tatty_One]

yes but he also mentioned after he was gaming on his television 1080i (1920x?) so I recommended the GTS instead.

- Christine

In that case, obviously great minds think alike!

[vexen]

if you are into benching, my 8800GTS 512 treats me good ;)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6378533

[will]

ok i dont want the 8800gt if anything i want similar performance of the newer g92 gts. So in the running is a g92 8800gts/8800gtx/9800gtx (pricey) and what about the newer Gddr4 3870's? is there going to be a improvment over the gddr3 version ? (more oc room) and whats the perf like compared to a 8800gts G92?

The 8800gt does have similar performance to the g92 gts (5-10%), but if you really want the g92 gts, get it! You can get them for about £140 if you look in the right places! 9/8800GTX probably isnt really worth it, just get the gts...

[mullered07]

Just having a quick read there are some good points in here, Christine has a very good point about the 8800GS and your resolution, forget the 8800GTX at the resolution you are using, go for the 8800GTS G92 512MB, it matches the new 9800GTX in many benches, beats the GTX at you res in almost every bench, is wicked fast and damn good value, it is close enough to your budget to make it viable...............

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=720490

IMO if you really want the performance, whilst the HD3870 is good, even the GDDR4 version lags a little behind the Gt, the GTS G92 is the only option.

But as Christine says, at your res, the GS is actually not going to "appear" any slower in most things, perhaps Crysis being the exception......but who in their right mind would play such a game? :)

i also game @ 1080p on my tv

and i for one would play crysis :eek: :toast:

its looking like the gts although if i can get a good deal (near enough £ as the GTS) im gonna opt for the 9800gtx

[wiak]

get a Radeon 4800 series card whey they come out
aint long now

[kylew]

get a Radeon 4800 series card whey they come out
aint long now

That'll most probably end up being the better solution. Hopefully they'll be out early may. Not too long to go! :D

[FreedomEclipse]

if you really cant wait then i say +1 with the G92 8800GTS. or if u still want to save money, im not sure how much it will save but if you get an ASUS 8800GT TOP - one of their new GT cards which has been overclocked so hard its scores are literally right behind the 8800GTS 512 by a few fps

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=30093 - this link here is from microdirect - im not saying you should by from them in particular but just use it as a referance. im sure you will be able to find it somewhere cheaper by now so its worth a look. but obviously if u still prefer the GTX then go ahead but an overclocked 8800GTS 512 beats the GTX

[will]

if you really cant wait then i say +1 with the G92 8800GTS. or if u still want to save money, im not sure how much it will save but if you get an ASUS 8800GT TOP - one of their new GT cards which has been overclocked so hard its scores are literally right behind the 8800GTS 512 by a few fps

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=30093 - this link here is from microdirect - im not saying you should by from them in particular but just use it as a referance. im sure you will be able to find it somewhere cheaper by now so its worth a look. but obviously if u still prefer the GTX then go ahead but an overclocked 8800GTS 512 beats the GTX

Actually, with that Asus GT being £176, it would actually be cheaper to just get a gts...

[FreedomEclipse]

Actually, with that Asus GT being £176, it would actually be cheaper to just get a gts...

well no because this here (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=695921) is a standard Asus 8800GT from Scanpc

& this 'here' (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=745804) is a XFX Alpha Dog Edition 8800GTS - the same one i have

note the price difference.....

if anything the Asus TOP should be fairly cheaper now since its been out for a while & what with all the new cards Nvidia have been kicking out.


P.S

I did clearly state use micro direct as a 'REFERANCE' e.g. go do some research & find the card cheaper else where. nothing to their with their price

[will]

well no because this here (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=695921) is a standard Asus 8800GT from Scanpc

& this 'here' (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=745804) is a XFX Alpha Dog Edition 8800GTS - the same one i have

note the price difference.....

if anything the Asus TOP should be fairly cheaper now since its been out for a while & what with all the new cards Nvidia have been kicking out.


P.S

I did clearly state use micro direct as a 'REFERANCE' e.g. go do some research & find the card cheaper else where. nothing to their with their price

Yeah but you were talking about the TOP model, which is more expensive (cheapest I could find was £160) than the standard Asus GT you linked, and you can get a standard GTS for £140 so its still cheaper.

[mullered07]

I think im going to go with THIS BADBOY (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1179&maincat_no=130), the MSI 8800gtx water cooled, may be overkill for what i need now however im going to be keeping this for 2 years hopefully. Managed to find a good deal on one around £150 new, cant pass it up, reviews are good on it and it performs nearly aswell as the Ultra.

[will]

I think im going to go with THIS BADBOY (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1179&maincat_no=130), the MSI 8800gtx water cooled, may be overkill for what i need now however im going to be keeping this for 2 years hopefully. Managed to find a good deal on one around £150 new, cant pass it up, reviews are good on it and it performs nearly aswell as the Ultra.

good deal! definitely go for that, i bet you could easily oc it to ultra speeds...

[Tatty_One]

I think im going to go with THIS BADBOY (http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1179&maincat_no=130), the MSI 8800gtx water cooled, may be overkill for what i need now however im going to be keeping this for 2 years hopefully. Managed to find a good deal on one around £150 new, cant pass it up, reviews are good on it and it performs nearly aswell as the Ultra.

Where is that £150 deal?

[mullered07]

Where is that £150 deal?

a friend of mine knows someone thats all i can say, im keeping mum, until i have the £ tomorrow :laugh:

[Tatty_One]

a friend of mine knows someone thats all i can say, im keeping mum, until i have the £ tomorrow :laugh:

I want 3 for tri sli! Cash deal :toast:

[mullered07]

tbh tatty i think the guy my friend knows only has 2, i want to find out if i defo have the £ tomorrow, if so ill be getting a lot more info on it then. dont know weather he could get any more, i will be speaking to the guy personally once i know ive defo got the funds (2moro/friday latest) :toast:

edit: and wow 17k with a single 8800gt thats amazing although im betting that E8400 and ddr3 has somthing to do with it :toast: