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erocker
04-25-2008, 10:50 PM
Alcpone's Vantage Discussion Thread
Post your 3dMark Vantage discussion, questions, and insights here!
Post your scores here: Alcpone's Official 3dMark Vantage Compilaion (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=58927)
erocker
04-25-2008, 10:55 PM
Feel free to give your ideas and opinions here, before the benchmark is released. Once released this will be a "post your score" only thread. :toast:
erocker
04-28-2008, 05:21 PM
Post up your scores!:)
scope54
04-28-2008, 05:49 PM
and here it is...sorry about the first post lawl...it was kind of like a teaser
lol and my cpu score rocks and the gpu score blows.....
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/results014.jpg
new results with hotfix:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/new results.jpg
oli_ramsay
04-28-2008, 05:54 PM
Failed to open results properly the first time. Worked 2nd time, however you can only view your results online which is a bit wierd. Anyway here's what I got with the specs in my profile (8800gt @ 675/1620/975):
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/dgdg.jpg
Edit: new image with cpu-z and gpu-z pasted next to original image
Just noticed they got my CPU and it's speed wrong.
erocker
04-28-2008, 05:56 PM
Post a CPU-Z and GPU-Z with the results. Just like in the 3D06 thread.:toast:
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 06:06 PM
perhaps you should make a discussion thread like 3dm06?
marsey99
04-28-2008, 06:08 PM
^^^^i think it could be a reserved post??
Dr. Spankenstein
04-28-2008, 06:12 PM
...and so it begins, AGAIN! THE MADNESS, the madness....
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/First 3DMark Vantage.png
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/Vantage breakdown.png
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 06:15 PM
damn... wait till you get the e8500 in there. it should go up a LONG way.
my score should be NICE and HEFTY with my setup. i just picked up another E8500 and it's on the way. Q9550 is in the works as well.
Dr. Spankenstein
04-28-2008, 06:16 PM
Imma going to have to break down sometime and get a quad to bench with as well.
Waiting (im)patiently for the E8500! :p
Comments on the test:
Each graphics test seems a lttle long-winded, but that probably me. Shameless Sapphire plug made me want to puke. Nice test, not revolutionary for the time they had to work on it.
Looking at the Highest Score makes it seem like its ALREADY out of date! Isn't the cycle "Once people strt scoring over 10,000 marks they make a new one?!?
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 06:32 PM
how many people do you think will actually pay for this like i did? LOL!
i just got basic though. UNLIMITED BENCHING at default is all we do anyway.
erocker
04-28-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm sure that many manufacturers will start throwing in Vantage disks with thier products. Then you have the pirates of course... I still fight the urge to go to Vista.
Dr. Spankenstein
04-28-2008, 06:38 PM
how many people do you think will actually pay for this like i did? LOL!
i just got basic though. UNLIMITED BENCHING at default is all we do anyway.
That's where the smart money is! I'm buying mine later today...
C'mon! Scores people!!!!
BTW, Thank Alcpone & erocker for this. We ALL understand how much work is required to maintain one (let alone multiple) compilation thread.
erocker
04-28-2008, 06:41 PM
He got 4057. It says it on the screenshot.
He edited it.;)
That's where the smart money is! I'm buying mine later today...
C'mon! Scores people!!!!
BTW, Thank Alcpone & erocker for this. We ALL understand how much work is required to maintain one (let alone multiple) compilation thread.
I decided to name it in Al's honor for the previous great compilation. It just sounds better than erocker's 3dmark blah blah.:)
t_ski
04-28-2008, 06:59 PM
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=6195&resultType=19
Everything running at default for the moment
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 07:06 PM
eh.... ran like crap...
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13916&stc=1&d=1209405960
Fahim
04-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Here is my GeForce 8800 GTS result:
Crappy score...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/8800GTS.jpg
eh.... ran like crap...
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13916&stc=1&d=1209405960
dont think you will get 3dmark06 scores with vantage lol :roll:
evil bill
04-28-2008, 07:28 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/kuat/3DMarkVantage.jpg
P4698 3DMarks
E8200 @ 3.2Ghz
MSI 8800GT OC 660/950/1650
thebeephaha
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm sure that many manufacturers will start throwing in Vantage disks with thier products. Then you have the pirates of course... I still fight the urge to go to Vista.
I may chuck vista on a spare POS drive just to try this at least tho and decide if I wanna buy it later. I got 3DMark06 w/ my Striker Extreme so I bet Vantage will ship with the new version.
EDIT:
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=22070&resultType=19
weak... 6942
Dr. Spankenstein
04-28-2008, 07:37 PM
eh.... ran like crap...
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13916&stc=1&d=1209405960
Interesting! Your CPU score was double mine, but it only translated to roughly 800 marks.
Seems they were listening and made it a GRAPHICS benchmark!:toast:
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 08:30 PM
EEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
as with everything i own... scores went down.
that patch sucks ass. i need to unpatch this S&*#.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13918&stc=1&d=1209410989
t_ski
04-28-2008, 09:11 PM
Dang, I nned to get a ket to submit multiple results. Anybody else see any kind of graphics corruption? I was seeing what looked like waterfalls nearly everywhere...
erocker
04-28-2008, 09:13 PM
Oh man! Looks like I'm going to have some work to do! Thanks for all the posts so far!:toast:
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 09:15 PM
Dang, I nned to get a ket to submit multiple results. Anybody else see any kind of graphics corruption? I was seeing what looked like waterfalls nearly everywhere...
mine too. nvidia seems to be weighted heavier. most nvidia systems seem to get far more points.
another thing i found wierd is the fact that it crashes on the CPU test when i run 3.8ghz.... when i've been 24/7 stable and benchable at 3.8ghz for weeks now. WTH?
t_ski
04-28-2008, 09:44 PM
There are some bugs in the program. Saw a couple messages about crashes in the FAQ.
jbunch07
04-28-2008, 10:14 PM
ok ran the benchmark but it failed to submit my results has anyone else had this problem?
t_ski
04-28-2008, 10:31 PM
The only reason it's failing to submit results for me ATM is because I got the one-time use trial key. I'll get a regular key later and post up some OC results.
Fit, did you uninstall the old ATI drivers before you tried the hotfix drivers? I didn't see the results in a score before I did, but afterwards the notfix drivers seems to not only fix all the corruption (there was some in New Calico I did not know was corruption), but framerate seemed much better, too.
jbunch07
04-28-2008, 10:34 PM
i have the advanced edition im going to be very pissed if i paid 20 bucks for something that i cant use?
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 10:34 PM
it's a effing hotfix.. why would you have to uninstall the driver? that makes no sense at all.
Fahim
04-28-2008, 10:35 PM
My 8800 GTS Overclocked:
Leadtek GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB (650,2000) 174.93
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/GTSOC.jpg
Going to test my HD 3870 now....
erocker
04-28-2008, 10:36 PM
it's a effing hotfix.. why would you have to uninstall the driver? that makes no sense at all.
They are hotfix "drivers" meaning they are "new" drivers.
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 10:37 PM
so uninstall just the driver? or the whole thing?
erocker
04-28-2008, 10:38 PM
Uninstall everything from the control panel.:)
fitseries3
04-28-2008, 10:43 PM
any other secrets i dont know? these ways of ati drivers and software are crap. i hate having to EFF around for an hour everytime i change cards.
Creatre
04-29-2008, 01:33 AM
P4486 3D Marks
CPU Score - 11981
Graphics Score - 3712
Need to get more juice outta this card, or upgrade it looks like! Getting stomped by the 3870!
Photo:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/3dmarkV_01.jpg
CrackerJack
04-29-2008, 01:38 AM
ok ran the benchmark but it failed to submit my results has anyone else had this problem?
Me too, :banghead: :banghead: I din't once. But now i can't do it at all :banghead:
finally it just started working
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/3dmark vantage.jpg
t_ski
04-29-2008, 03:31 AM
so uninstall just the driver? or the whole thing?
Just run the setup program again, but choose "Uninstall." Then reboot, and then install the hotfix.
Kursah
04-29-2008, 03:32 AM
Well, figured I'd give it a run...reminds me of running my x850xt pe on 3D Mark 06 LOL! Looks pretty good though, I hope they make a game out of the Space 3D Demo..that was pretty cool.
:toast:
EDIT: Just another note, I ran this after my Vista was running for over 24 hours, I had been gaming, running Opera with multiple tabs, I did not disable, fresh restart or anything...pretty much ran how I would any of my games, that's how I believe in getting a more accurate score of how your system will perform in comparison to skimping everything on startup and resources to see the max potential one could attain in the 3D Mark. I know a lot do this, and it's cool, I just prefer to see how I score in the same environment and settings my games are enjoyed in. :rockout:
Wile E
04-29-2008, 04:24 AM
24/7 settings. Hope Rivatuner is OK to verify clocks. gpu-z didn't show anything. I'm gonna buy this app methinks. EDIT: Bought the Advanced version
Wile E - P5567 - Palit 8800GT 1GB @ 720/999 (1782 shader) - QX9650 @ 3600Mhz (400*9)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=19932
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/Vantage 24-7186.png
Lt_JWS
04-29-2008, 04:28 AM
E2160 @3Ghz | 3870 @ 840/1170
P4322
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7149/vantageocqz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=19159
jbunch07
04-29-2008, 04:33 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080428/3DMarkVscore.jpg
ASUS 3870 @ 850/1224
Phenom 9850BE @ stock
farlex85
04-29-2008, 05:22 AM
Here's my virgin run w/ completely stock settings. I'll give it a week or so then get the basic and do some oc.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/Capture011.jpg
Wile E
04-29-2008, 05:26 AM
Here's another run, with the only change being my QX9650 is clocked to 4GHz, using a higher multi. Absolutely everything else is the same, including ram and fsb.
Wile E - P5637 - Palit 8800GT 1GB @ 720/999 (1782 shader) - QX9650 @ 4000Mhz (400*10)
As you can see, this one is much less dependent on the cpu compared to 06.
More to come.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=20263
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/Vantage 4GHz 24_7gfx.png
warup89
04-29-2008, 05:43 AM
here's mine, i didn't ran 3d mark without the patch. but this is what i got patched
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2539/markscorehh9.jpg
Wile E
04-29-2008, 05:47 AM
Ok, I'm done tinkering for the night. Will do more tomorrow.
Wile E - P5929 - Palit 8800GT 1GB @ 756/1053 (1890 shader) - QX9650 @ 4000Mhz (400*10)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=20488
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/Vantage4Ghz_756_1050.png
warup89
04-29-2008, 05:48 AM
hehehe so far im on the very top :pimp:, i wonder who is gonna trow me down :rolleyes:
jbunch07
04-29-2008, 05:58 AM
hehehe so far im on the very top :pimp:, i wonder who is gonna trow me down :rolleyes:
give me a few weeks to get a X2 so i can pair it with my 3870 and w/c for my phenom...then ill give you a run for your money ;)
jbunch07
04-29-2008, 03:53 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/3DMarkVscore2.jpg
i reinstalled the hotfix...seems to help
Asus 3870 @ 850/1224
Phenom 9850BE @ Stock
P4847
Fahim
04-29-2008, 04:55 PM
I finished my benchmarking with both 8800 GTS and HD 3870 in stock and overclocked mode...
Leadtek PX8800 GTS 640MB (513,1584) 174.93 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=6894)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/8800GTS.jpg
Leadtek PX8800 GTS 640MB (650,2000) 174.93 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=12493)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/GTSOC.jpg
ATI RADEON HD 3870 512MB (800,2340) 08.4 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=15691)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/3870.jpg
ATI RADEON HD 3870 512MB (800,2340) 08.4 Hotfix (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=16867)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/3870hotfix.jpg
ATI RADEON HD 3870 512MB (850,2400) 08.4 Hotfix (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=28975)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/Fahim/3870hotfixoc.jpg
In stock speed, 8800 GTS is marginally slower than 3870, but with hotfix, 3870 is a better performer. But when overclocked, 8800 GTS is much faster than HD 3870. Maybe because I didn't overclock my HD 3870 further. I am gonna try ForceWare 175.12 and compare the stock results next.
erocker
04-29-2008, 05:55 PM
I'll get things updated tonight. If you want your score added, put "Add this" in the title please. Thank you!:toast:
erocker
04-29-2008, 06:28 PM
Well.. I just noticed another thread on this, so not sure what to do right now...
jbunch07
04-29-2008, 06:31 PM
erocker ygpm
Dr. Spankenstein
04-29-2008, 06:37 PM
hehehe so far im on the very top :pimp:, i wonder who is gonna trow me down :rolleyes:
Challenge accepted!
http://img.techpowerup.org/080429/Top Vantage.png
fitseries3
04-29-2008, 06:55 PM
Count me in!!!
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13959&stc=1&d=1209491704
erocker
04-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Open for your benchmarking discussing enjoyment!:toast:
fitseries3
04-29-2008, 10:30 PM
WTF? open closed open closed open again?
Dr. Spankenstein
04-29-2008, 11:10 PM
Open for your benchmarking discussing enjoyment!:toast:
A great use for this thread. Nice reincarnation!
@fitseries3
Keep them scores coming! Got your package, thanks again. Will submit to heatware if you wish.
fitseries3
04-29-2008, 11:23 PM
A great use for this thread. Nice reincarnation!
@fitseries3
Keep them scores coming! Got your package, thanks again. Will submit to heatware if you wish.
please do! i use the same username for everything.
more benches comming. i just got my REDS from crucial!!!
Blacklash
04-30-2008, 12:20 AM
Guess I will drop this here too-
I've been abusing this GTX since just after 11|07|2006 and she still does alright.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2553/vantagep8800gtxaca5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It's single card, Vista x64, 175.12 driver, and 650|1014 1512 clocks.
t_ski
04-30-2008, 05:15 AM
Since this thread is about discussion...
Do you guys think that Ageia PhysX was used to make Jane Nash's boobs jiggle?
Gotta love the upskirt shot when she's laying on the cargo container. :pimp:
fitseries3
04-30-2008, 05:17 AM
Since this thread is about discussion...
Do you guys think that Ageia PhysX was used to make Jane Nash's boobs jiggle?
Gotta love the upskirt shot when she's laying on the cargo container. :pimp:
OMG!!! i was SO gonna say something about that but i didn't know what kinda response i would get.
the boob jiggle is pretty nice... people may not notice it on lower end machines though.
jbunch07
04-30-2008, 05:18 AM
Since this thread is about discussion...
Do you guys think that Ageia PhysX was used to make Jane Nash's boobs jiggle?
Gotta love the upskirt shot when she's laying on the cargo container. :pimp:
lol my brother-in-law walked in right at that part he was laughing his ass off
but im sure they had fun with her physical characteristics :laugh:
t_ski
04-30-2008, 05:18 AM
:laugh: I was like :eek: and then she laid down and I was like :respect:
jbunch07
04-30-2008, 05:19 AM
yea it was quite nice!
evil bill
05-01-2008, 04:34 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/kuat/3DMarkVantage2.jpg
P4936 3DMarks
E8200 @ 3.2Ghz
MSI 8800GT OC 704/1002/1760
Include this please
Cheers.
evil bill
05-01-2008, 04:36 PM
lol my wife was tryign to have a serious conversation with me when it was running, and got quite upset when I said "hmmm, jiggly"
jbunch07
05-01-2008, 06:41 PM
lol my wife was tryign to have a serious conversation with me when it was running, and got quite upset when I said "hmmm, jiggly"
lol thats pretty funnny...
t_ski
05-01-2008, 07:00 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b378/kuat/3DMarkVantage2.jpg
P4936 3DMarks
E8200 @ 3.2Ghz
MSI 8800GT OC 704/1002/1760
Include this please
Cheers.
Hey Bill, please post that in the Score Compilation thread. Since we had two threads for the same thing, the other is now for compilation and this one is for discussion. Thanks :toast:
Wile E
05-02-2008, 07:23 AM
Yeah, I posted similar results with my QX earlier in the thread. 400Mhz on my quad didn't make much of a difference at all. Less than 100pts, iirc.
thebeephaha
05-02-2008, 08:30 AM
OMG!!! i was SO gonna say something about that but i didn't know what kinda response i would get.
the boob jiggle is pretty nice... people may not notice it on lower end machines though.
I was running this on our high end display system at work and my manager was like I don't see what looks so good about this new 3dmark and then the boobs came by and he was like, "oh so thats why we needed an 8800".
jbunch07
05-02-2008, 04:51 PM
hey i just noticed that in the last feature test "perlin noise" you can see the word "futermark" in the center in big bold letters...did anyone else notice this or am i slow?
t_ski
05-02-2008, 05:06 PM
Nope, didn't notice. It's there but not too noticable.
jbunch07
05-02-2008, 05:12 PM
yea you really have to be looking for it...
jbunch07
05-02-2008, 05:19 PM
hey T_ski quick question...what drivers where your using when your ran the bench?
jbunch07
05-02-2008, 10:18 PM
how come i cant get the result page like some of you people can? i can only submit my scores online? whats the deal with that?
OzzmanFloyd120
05-03-2008, 03:48 AM
I'm a little late, but throw this into the mix.
flashstar
05-03-2008, 04:33 AM
When I run my GPU and my graphics memory at any speed over stock, I get really weird flashing multi-colored lights on the calico level and strange graphics corruption on the Jane Nash level. My memory, gpu, and pcb are at 56 degrees or less! Currently, I'm trying to run the benchmark at 870/927. Could this be a software problem? I can play all games (Crysis, etc.) and 3dmark 06 fine without graphics corruption...
Does anyone know a solution?
Thanks. :toast:
OzzmanFloyd120
05-03-2008, 04:35 AM
My uncle had the same problem on his 1600pro even at stocks, he just bought a new card.
jbunch07
05-03-2008, 04:36 AM
what cat are you using?
flashstar
05-03-2008, 05:32 AM
I've tried both 8.4 and the Futuremark Vantage Hotfix driver. Both result in the same corruption. :(
jbunch07
05-03-2008, 05:34 AM
I've tried both 8.4 and the Futuremark Vantage Hotfix driver. Both result in the same corruption. :(
what happens when you run the bench at stock clocks?
or have you done that yet?
flashstar
05-03-2008, 07:24 PM
If I run the benchmark at stock clocks, it's fine. However, if I speed my gpu up at all (even 20 mhz), I get the weird graphical flashes and errors.
t_ski
05-03-2008, 08:32 PM
jbunch, I was using the hotfix for the bench with the CPU @ 3.6 GHz. The first one I listed (perhaps it was the other thread) was with the 8.4's and the CPU @ stock, but I have major corrption in Jane Nash and New Calico.
Which version of Vantage do you have? I have the Pro version. The basic version (IIRC) only allows you to view your results in the ORB (online results browser).
jbunch07
05-03-2008, 08:35 PM
jbunch, I was using the hotfix for the bench with the CPU @ 3.6 GHz. The first one I listed (perhaps it was the other thread) was with the 8.4's and the CPU @ stock, but I have major corrption in Jane Nash and New Calico.
Which version of Vantage do you have? I have the Pro version. The basic version (IIRC) only allows you to view your results in the ORB (online results browser).
i have the advanced version.
t_ski
05-03-2008, 08:53 PM
I really don't know all the Ins & Outs of the different versions they have. All I know is that Basis = 1 submission, Pro has the built-in results screen.
jbunch07
05-03-2008, 09:01 PM
I really don't know all the Ins & Outs of the different versions they have. All I know is that Basis = 1 submission, Pro has the built-in results screen.
ohh ok isnt the pro like 4 or $500
erocker
05-03-2008, 09:25 PM
Yeah, what is the difference? That is a lot of money for a benching program?!
Wile E
05-04-2008, 07:27 AM
Yeah, what is the difference? That is a lot of money for a benching program?!
Pro is targeted at businesses and the like. I believe it may be a VLK of some sort. It's also the only one that will show you the results without submitting. hwbot and some other sites are lobbying Futuremark to include that feature in the advanced version as well. Hopefully they'll do it in the next update. It would make more people willing to spend the $20 on the Advanced version, imo.
t_ski
05-31-2008, 07:29 AM
I installed the CAT 8.5's and found out they did not have the hotfix included. I went to revert back to the hotfix driver and, even though it was installed correctly, I still got corruption like the original 8.4's.
I was hoping to push the mobo & CPU a little more and see what I'd get :(
jbunch07
05-31-2008, 07:31 AM
so you would advise not using cat 8.5 ?
i was about to install them.
t_ski
05-31-2008, 04:25 PM
Well, if your sole purpose is to run the benches, I'd say no. If you want the other features from the 8.5's more, then yes.
jbunch07
05-31-2008, 04:27 PM
hmm ok well thanks for the info.
erocker
06-02-2008, 09:54 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080602/bloomfieldx58.jpg
Are you kidding me?!:eek:
dark2099
06-02-2008, 09:56 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/080602/bloomfieldx58.jpg
Are you kidding me?!:eek:
Wow, that looks like its gonna do some major damage to current records.
Wile E
06-03-2008, 12:52 AM
I'll believe it when I see it after it's official release.
OzzmanFloyd120
06-03-2008, 12:55 AM
I'm with Will, I have a hard time believing that any 2.6ghz CPU can score over 10K on a vantage CPU test.
It's too easy to photoshop, and for all we know that could be any quad over 4ghz on a 3dMark06 test, too much is cropped out to know anything.
Dr. Spankenstein
06-03-2008, 01:29 AM
If they are benching a Nehalem, who KNOWS what kind of GPU grunt they have attached alongside!?!?
Cold Storm
06-03-2008, 01:50 AM
If they are benching a Nehalem, who KNOWS what kind of GPU grunt they have attached alongside!?!?
True. knowing it, it might as well be a skull trail of x2's or tri gx2's just for the Sh1ts and giggles. They give you the hope for it.... Just can't wait to see how much everything will be!
t_ski
06-09-2008, 05:21 AM
I think I may have my 8.4 hotfix driver issue figured out. I just uninstalled the 8.5's and uninstalled the 3DMV hotfix, then installed the 8.4 hotfix. I only had the two main GPU's show up, so I installed the drivers for the secondary GPU's manually. Then I rebooted and enabled CrossFireX. No more corruption.
Now that I have that fixed, I'll make a few more runs for the money ;) I've got some new parts and want to see what difference they'll make.
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