Official 9600GSO Thread

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

This is for lookouts for GSO's for sale and such, comparos and whatever.

[JrRacinFan]

So far this looks like an awesome midranger. Thank you for posting a thread IRA!

EDIT: The question being now can 8800GS's be flashed for SLi.

[Solaris17]

im pretty sure it can only diff is 768 instead of 512 if your cool with the loss i say absolutely

[newtekie1]

eVGA Announced the card April 24th, but still haven't put it up in their product section. I hate paper launches, not that this on is a big deal since you could just buy an 8800GS if you wanted one.

EDIT: The question being now can 8800GS's be flashed for SLi.

I hope so, since they are the exact same card all the way down to clock speeds, I don't see why not.

im pretty sure it can only diff is 768 instead of 512 if your cool with the loss i say absolutely

Both the 8800GS and 9600GSO have 384MB, some Palit's 8800GS's came with 768MB and I assume they will also be a 768MB 9600GSO.

[JrRacinFan]

im pretty sure it can only diff is 768 instead of 512 if your cool with the loss i say absolutely

Ahhh so thats where the difference comes into play 768mb vs 384mb. May not be a go then.

Are the GSO's 512-bit ram?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

GSO's are 192. i want a >384RAM GSO

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Cant find them anywhere d00d

[JrRacinFan]

Check this out IRA. Soon, VERY soon......
http://technewstime.com/gaming-news/9600gso-to-arrive-in-may-2008

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

add some more tags to teh thread please.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Nvidia-GeForce-9600GSO-Cards-Popping-Up-84384.shtml

next week monday!

[Gruenz]

Got a XFX 9600GSO 580M yesterday.
GPU 580 Mhz, MEM 700 Mhz, SHADER 1450 Mhz.
Runs fine @ GPU 700, MEM 1000 --> 3Dmark06 = 10.519 @ 1280x1024 noAA, E2180@3000 Mhz.
Both GPU and MEM temperature monitoring.
Automatic, smooth fan control. Runs silent@2D.
Price around 90 Euros in Germany for retail package, Company Of Heroes was included.

Thommy.

[wolf]

very nice but is it 384mb or 768?

[Gruenz]

The card has 384MB.
GPU temperature peaks around 80° Celsius under 3D load.
At the moment there is only one 9600GSO model (PV-T96O-FDF4) available from XFX.

[wolf]

you should tweak the fan to hit 100% earlier, 80 degrees is technically fine, but not a temp i would be comfortable with in my box.

[Widjaja]

How does the 9600GSO compare against the 8800GT?

I thought the 8800GT was midrange?

[Gruenz]

9600GSO is just a rename of 8800GS and therefore exactly the same as 8800GS, using 192bit memoryinterface, 384 MB RAM, 96 stream processor units, G92-Chip.
8800GT has 256bit, 512MB, 112 sp-units, G92-Chip.

9600GSO is about 5 to 25 % slower than 8800GT (and about 30% cheaper than 8800GT).
So it is a fine card for the budget gamer, about twice the power of a 8600GTS.


Thommy

[wolf]

+1 absolutely, its an AWESOME card for the budget gamer, the 9600GT/GSO are freakin WIN for gaming on a budget.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

ill soon update the thread with some basic 9600GSO info

[candle_86]

lol all the info we need is in my 8800GS thread

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

postlinks, guests are always in here and i guess they want info.

[Solaris17]

well if they both coe out in 768 and 384 a bios flash eaither way will alloow you to sli :)

[candle_86]

_FBi;782635']postlinks, guests are always in here and i guess they want info.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52922


the 8800GS thread, 100% the same card

[Ekklesis]

It would be a nice thing to post here some results of the "newer" card and impressions(We all know the performance of the card via the 8800GS benchmarks but some "real-life" results would be useful for many).Of course I refer to those who will buy cause for now it's obvious that aren't owners of this little "beast".

[smig]

I'm waiting to get my new XpertVision (Palit) 9600GSO 786mb Sonic

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

9800gso?

[PVTCaboose1337]

Has anyone found it for sale yet, i really want this card.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Voice_of_Palit said that in the next week they'd be out.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Palit 768 GSO (http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/view.php?id=10582&cid=6)

[Ekklesis]

Wow that 9600GSO Sonic should have some advantages compared to 512MB 9600GT cause those frequencyes coupled with 768MB should score pretty high.

[calvary1980]

are the 768mb variants coming to north america?

- Christine

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

are the 768mb variants coming to north america?

- Christine



According to Voice-of_palit, yes.

[smig]

_FBi;783168']9800gso?

oops... sory
XpertVision (Palit) 9600GSO 786mb Sonic

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

oops... sory
XpertVision (Palit) 9600GSO 786mb Sonic

where did you buy it?

[Solaris17]

Wow that 9600GSO Sonic should have some advantages compared to 512MB 9600GT cause those frequencyes coupled with 768MB should score pretty high.

my clock speeds stock came higher than that...and my 256bit bus means more data bandwidth.

[candle_86]

yes it does solaris, but 192 isnt to far from 256, and i'm willing to bet with the populatrity now of 640 and 768mb cards though that this amount of memory will start to be the norm, better texters and AA can be done with higher mem count, 512mb is the norm much like 2 years ago 256mb was the norm, so it wont be to long till games need the extra memory. And you know what they say, more memory over speed is always more useful in the longrun as long as it can be used by the device.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

id rather a gso than a gt

[Solaris17]

yes it does solaris, but 192 isnt to far from 256, and i'm willing to bet with the populatrity now of 640 and 768mb cards though that this amount of memory will start to be the norm, better texters and AA can be done with higher mem count, 512mb is the norm much like 2 years ago 256mb was the norm, so it wont be to long till games need the extra memory. And you know what they say, more memory over speed is always more useful in the longrun as long as it can be used by the device.

o i know all about that im running 2 GT's and 1gb of vid ram is fun and games.

_FBi;784384']id rather a gso than a gt

i wish i had had the option i would 2

[Ekklesis]

The only problem that could appear in purchase a 768MB GSO is that the GSO is more expensive than a 512MB GT(at least in my country this is the case).

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

which cuntry is that?

[calvary1980]

http://en.expreview.com/2008/05/09/galaxy-unveils-9600gso-black-edition/#more-364

when they said "we believe it will be as cheap as under 140USD." it kinda gives me a vibe the 768mb variants will come to North America however this Galaxy model won't you will have to order it from eBay.co.uk it will probably be the only model once again to use Samsung 0.8ns Memory like there 8800GS 384mb.

2 of these volt modded and under water are very attractive.

- Christine

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

drool .. 9600GSO or HD4850

[calvary1980]

Galaxy is pretty cheap too you could probably get 2 of them for the price of a 4850, why not the GT200? don't forget it's not far another 2 months I think 9900GTX (512-Bit, 1GB GDDR3, 240 Shaders, 32 ROP, 120 TMU, 120 TFU) 9900GTS (448-Bit, 896MB GDDR3)

- Christine

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

my wallet is small .. and i have a p965 chipset.

[smig]

_FBi;784262']where did you buy it?

I live in Israel.
I ordered it a week ago. not sure if they have it in stock, but normaly they don't sell if they don't have it or at least on the way.
I'll give more info when I have it.

[wolf]

Galaxy is pretty cheap too you could probably get 2 of them for the price of a 4850, why not the GT200? don't forget it's not far another 2 months I think 9900GTX (512-Bit, 1GB GDDR3, 240 Shaders, 32 ROP, 120 TMU, 120 TFU) 9900GTS (448-Bit, 896MB GDDR3)

- Christine

mmmm cant wait.

[Ekklesis]

_FBi;784417']which cuntry is that?


Romania - the whole country it's a piece of junk but I can't do anything.To be more exactly even now a 8800GS 768MB has the same price as the 8800GT 512MB (the cheapest one of course).

[smig]

I just talked to the seller.
he said they decided not to sell it since it's based on the G-80 chip.

can anyone aprove this ?
what is the correct chip for this card ?

[JrRacinFan]

What?! It's G92 based.....
http://img.techpowerup.org/080511/Capture036.jpg

Courtesy of WikiPedia.org

Now, according to specs the 9600GSO is just a re-badge of the 8800GS.

[smig]

The G80 design, code name G92.... :D

In any case this seller don't have the XpertVision 9600GSO 768mb :(

I have an option to buy the INNOVISION Geforce 9600GSO 384MB DDR3 PCI-E (for less money ;) )
I know it's only 384mb and not 768mb. my screen can only go up to 1280*1024 . will the amount of memory make any difference for me ?

[calvary1980]

the extra memory will not, 384mb is pleanty. you should only get the 768mb variant if you know your going to purchase a new monitor.

- Christine

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Tommorow!

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Anyone seen any for sale?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Anyone seen any?

[JrRacinFan]

http://ozdirect.com/product_info.php?products_id=53115&currency=USD&language=en

Only link I found.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

meh ...

[Joe Public]

Strangely enough, around these here parts (Norway) the 9600GSO is actually more expensive than the 8800GS right now. :S

[newtekie1]

I haven't seen any for sale. It looks like nVidia's plan to rebadge the 8800GS to get companies to sell the cards isn't working out so well. It seems the 8800GS just isn't a popular enough card, which is a shame since they are bad ass cards.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

I want a 768 model for cheep ..

[Palit_Guy]

good grief

It looks like our GSO cards got hung in customs. Next shipment should be here in a matter of days.

Yes, we have both flavors of GSO 384 and 768.

And I agree about paper launches- for suck. We haven't really announced anything because we don't have product available to purchase.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Ok ima look out.

[Xaser04]

Just as a quick message to anyone in the uk, it looks like Novatech have a small amount of 768mb 9600GSO's under their own novatech branding (which I assume is similar to the palit card?!).

The only problem is they are over £90. This is too much considering you can get a 8800GT for only £10 more if you look around.

Here is the card:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-96GSO

Looks excellent its just a bummer on the price.

[calvary1980]

thats an Xpertvision 9600GSO 768.

- Christine

[Palit_Guy]

Palit GSOs will be in Newegg next week.

[wolf2009]

Palit GSOs will be in Newegg next week.

thats nice to hear , what about price ?

[Palit_Guy]

Not allowed to say until they are available.

[caldran]

hey has any one seen this 9600gso review.....waiting to see many more reviews.....
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-9600-gso-386-mb-review-point-of-view/1

[caldran]

hey they have 9600gso in newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130356&Tpk=9600gso

[newtekie1]

hey they have 9600gso in newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130356&Tpk=9600gso

That is the same base price as the identical card branded as the 8800GS but with a single slot cooler (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130333). But the 8800GS has a $30 MIR and the 9600GSO only has a $10. I don't like the 9600GSO being more expensive.

[caldran]

i think this one is a top end model with double slot design.....i think the original price is 120

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

ncix has but thats in canada for 149

[caldran]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=9600gso&x=0&y=0

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

no 768 wtf?

[newtekie1]

The more I think about it, the more I believe that a 768MB version won't really be that great. The extra memory will push the price beyond that of a 9600GT, and the 9600GT would outperform it.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

dont forget the extra shader power.

[Joe Public]

Wouldn't the narrower memory bus probably make it slower when using AA?

[Palit_Guy]

I think a lot of that will depend on the game engine and how it does it's thing.

[smig]

just installed my new inovision 9600gso 384mb :)

no OC - both CPU (AMD2 5600+ @2800) and graphics are at stock clocks.

3dmark6 score - 8500

is this score OK for the system ?

when I look at the scores it say I have a generic VGA card, but in the first screen it correctly show it as 9600sgo :wtf:

what are the best settings for the nVidia control panel ?
I mostly playing BF2, and want to have the best quality, as long as I will have a descent playable frame rate. MAX screen resolution - 1280*1024.

stupid nVidia won't let changing the control panel language. it's in Hebrew now and I can't understand a thing of the translations :mad:
it's so stupid cause people who don't know what to change won't go there, and people who do know what to do use English for tchnical language :banghead:
maybe I should say I leave in USA to be able to read it correctly :D it's easier for them to read the user's location and translate it to the correct language then leting the user chose the language he want :p

[ChromeDome]

yay for teh 9600GSO! :toast:

i have the 8800GS version i am ahead of my time :cool:

Wouldn't the narrower memory bus probably make it slower when using AA?
depends on what resolution you're at. the card is meant for 1280X1024 / 1440X900, essentially. it will game at 1680X1050 just fine, but you might have to cut some AA in the most demanding games. otherwise its fine. if you game at a bit lower res and have no intention of upgrading your monitor anytime soon no real reason to spend more if you don't want to or can't. you'll never miss that 8800GT...
just installed my new inovision 9600gso 384mb :)

no OC - both CPU (AMD2 5600+ @2800) and graphics are at stock clocks.

3dmark6 score - 8500

is this score OK for the system ?

when I look at the scores it say I have a generic VGA card, but in the first screen it correctly show it as 9600sgo :wtf:

what are the best settings for the nVidia control panel ?
I mostly playing BF2, and want to have the best quality, as long as I will have a descent playable frame rate. MAX screen resolution - 1280*1024.

stupid nVidia won't let changing the control panel language. it's in Hebrew now and I can't understand a thing of the translations :mad:
it's so stupid cause people who don't know what to change won't go there, and people who do know what to do use English for tchnical language :banghead:
maybe I should say I leave in USA to be able to read it correctly :D it's easier for them to read the user's location and translate it to the correct language then leting the user chose the language he want :p
i think its a good score. might be a little low for your system for w/e reason. i have a similar system and scored a 9100 or so, stock. after an overclock it went to 9971 or some odd shi...like that. pretty good. i'm not really into benchmarking and stuff like that. if it works, hey it works :rockout:

3DMark also reads my 8800GS as 256mb. i have no idea why?

also, the evga model of this card overclocks pretty well. at least if its the same as the 8800GS, and i believe it is. don't know about other models, but i wouldn't hesitate

stock is 550 / 1375 / 1600. i have mine at 680 / 1700 / 1900, no problem. basically the same as the evga "Superclocked" version plus an additional 30mhz on the core.

its a good, solid performing card. i like it a lot

[flyin15sec]

I don't have a 9600GSO or 8800GS, but I think Candle_86 mention that he might be intrested in adding memory chips to his 8800GS. I've done some preliminary research, it may not be too hard to do.

First identify the chip being in use on your video card. Then find the same chips and get an idea for the price. Try this place for the chips:
http://www.digikey.com/
I've done a search for GDDR3, but it came up empty. However, I search DDR3, they list Micron and Gimonda chips, which means they can and should be able to get you GDDR3 chips.

Next you'll need the stencil to apply the solder paste. The BGA package type is P-TFBGA-136
Note: The package is conforming with JEDEC MO-207i, VAR DR-z. I'd try a company like this for the stencil: http://www.solder.net/
Go under their StencilQuik. They have a video on how to apply the solder paste. I also checked their catalog for P-TFBGA-136, however it appears they don't have it, but I'm sure they can produce it quite easily. Their costs however is quite expensive, at around $70 per 10, and you'll need 2.

Once you have all the items, you will need access to a heat gun or a toaster oven. A heat gun is probably preferred, but here is a link to get an idea of doing it with a toaster oven:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Toaster-Oven-Reflow-Soldering-BGA/

Now some of you may be wondering, with all these costs, It's much cheaper to buy a 9600GT 512 or 8800GT(S) 512. That is true, but why are you here in this forum if you only wanted to stay stock.

If you find that something like this works, maybe in the future you can even go for a 1Gig setup or even with faster GDDR4 chips replacement, so long as they use the same voltage and BGA pin out.

Just an idea.

[caldran]

nice can be done if u want to burn some money......or how about this....build one from scratch for 1500bugs like this one...:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/22/graphics-card-launched-fpga

[calvary1980]

I know candle from another forum, hes against water cooling and volt modding I can't imagine him wanting to add more memory ic to his video card :laugh:

I haven't been on in 2 weeks so I missed the 9600GSO launch did newegg have more vendors and variants because they only have 2 at the moment and I remember when the 8800GS was launched there was like 6 vendors than it was quickly cut down to 2 or 3 XFX and eVGA. the 768mb variants did come to North America NCIX (both Can and US) has the eVGA and Palit 768mb Variants and CanadaComputers has the Galaxy 9600GSO 384 with the 3 Phase Power, Samsung 0.8ns Memory and the option for the Soft Mod aka Stud Card.

- Christine

[ChromeDome]

^ nah newegg has had just two vendors for it since its release. in fact one at first.

i'm not sure how interested nvidia is in pushing this card? maybe they will OEM it as they did the 8800GS at first? it doesn't seem to garner much interest around the forums, and the 8800GS still has to fight for respect even as a "bang for the buck" card.

i post at a few forums (tech oriented and otherwise) and 'peeps are always like "i need the cheapest card i can play Crysis with below 1680X1050" and i'm like 'hey there friend 8800GS / 9600GSO is just the ticket! overclock it, fool'

and 'peeps are like "um...no i meant the NEXT cheapest card i can play Crysis with"

:banghead:

even people who don't play Crysis start to whine "omg 192 bit, 384mb memory, only 96 shaders, 12 ROP, IT'S CRIPPLED wahhhhh!!"

lol the card and i get no respect :(

'tis ok 'cause i'm a smart buyer not easily manipulated by meaningless benchmarks and tech stats

but i am still on teh outside looking in on the "serious" gaming world :'( maybe i do need to upgrade?

nahhh! :rockout:

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

im on the fence as to hd3870 or a 768 9600gso .. ill just watch and see

as ive been doing a while now.

[ChromeDome]

i think its apples and oranges at that point. i suppose the "nvidia or ATI" thing might influence some, however. other then that just pick the fruit you like best. prolly get similar out of both.

when i built (ok helped build) my computer last year i dumped a used (from a friend) 8600GT in it. its a fairly inexpensive build (its like my Frankenstein lol) so when it came time for a vid card upgrade i didn't want to change my uber powerful 300w ps, and so power consumption from an 8800GT, 9600GT, etc...concerned me. not so much at idle, but under load / peak. so...after lots of investigating (and a tight student budget reminding me to be frugal) i chose the 8800GS. have never regretted it.

i like to sing its praises, i have been surprised and happy with its solid performance. too many times i hear a chorus of boos in return...

somehow i will soldier on :(

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

http://www.ncixus.com/products/29851/NE%2F96SOSXT379/Palit%20Multimedia%20Inc./

[ChromeDome]

that looks like a pretty good buy. and the higher memory will help at higher resolution if the time comes for it. nicely clocked, this one. and it can go higher too, of course. Palit is an interesting maker. heatsink is kind of wild

[marvelous211]

double post

[marvelous211]

The more I think about it, the more I believe that a 768MB version won't really be that great. The extra memory will push the price beyond that of a 9600GT, and the 9600GT would outperform it.

9600gt doesn't always outperform the 8800gs or 9600gso. Some games are shader heavy. Some games are pixel heavy. Some are texture heavy. Some are bandwidth hogs. You get the picture.

They are a different beast.

Usually 9600gt does better with AA because of more bandwidth and more pixel fillrate combined with more vram which AA takes advantage of. 8800gs/9600gso is usually the better raw performer because it has more shader and massive texture fillrate. What I mean by raw is without any filters like AA and AF although 8800gs has no problems with AF it does take bigger performance hit with AA because of smaller bandwidth and vram particularly at higher resolutions above 1600x1200. 768meg card would burn the 9600gt even in higher resolutions long as you don't run AA or keep AA to a minimum.

The fact that 8800gs/9600gso is really downclocked to 550 core and SP clocks down to 1375 and memory to 800mhz. It's a full fledged G92 with 1/4 of the cluster disabled should be clocked same as 8800gt. 600 core 1500 SP 900mhz on the memory...

One thing about 8800gs or 9600gso is that it does like to overclock like crazy. Usually 25+% overclocks like all the nvidia midrange GS lineups.

I have mine clocked 729/1728/1044 for every day use. It can easily do more just with the stock fan @ 100%. I've tested it with ATITOOL to 756/1836/1060 without any artifacts.

[ChromeDome]

^ yeah all those things are pretty much on the mark about the card. its great at 1440X900 and i run full AA in games with no problem whatsoever.

i was over at newegg buying stuff earlier and checked if anymore GSO's were added. Leadtek just added one. so Leadtek, evga, and EliteGroup at newegg so far. trouble is evga and Leadtek have their cards priced at $139. one has a rebate of $10. the least expensive 9600GT is an XFX at $139. a PNY can be had for $144. this pricing scheme does not work for sales in the GSO's favor.

those are regular prices, too. the EliteGroup is at a more reasonable $119. personally i think a $20- $25 difference, minimum, should be between the two cards. not because the GSO doesn't do well, just because it is the next one "down" in the model chain.

this kind of pricing scheme is designed like this..."oh look teh budget card is $139. but the "non budget" card is $144 and for just $10 more i can almost get a GT 256mb and for 30 more then that a GT...." and on and on it goes until you have probably spent over 50% more then you needed or intended to when you started out. its great for sellers like newegg, but bad for the buyer. and XFX will clobber the competition with a $139 9600GT. perhaps price drops / rebates for the GSO are coming? but they'll have to be a little dramatic.

if EliteGroup can sell a $119 GSO why can't Leadtek or evga?


EDIT: well, the evga 8800GS and noisy as hell XFX model can be had for $89 after rebate atm...deal of the year so far in graphics cards imo. newegg has the stock clocked evga 8800GS at $119 and the "superclocked" at $138. i think nvidia should stop selling these asap and price the GSO the same.

[caldran]

may be because people wont buy it....as i ve seen it in newegg....even at 145 no body buys an ecs 8800gt 512mb ....but loud xfx or reference evga.......may be its customer service and rebate does the trick....

[ChromeDome]

hey there...

just want to keep this thread going as more 9600GSO's are coming out weekly. damn good deal right here, it would seem

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121251

happy gaming....

[robertc]

I have my EVGA 9600GSO oc'd and I'm getting 7676 in 3DMark06 @ 1280x1024 no AA. I have an AMD Athlon X2 BE-2300 (stock 1.9, oc'd to 2.4). What are the best recommended OC settings for RivaTuner for this card? Right now i have the shader clock linked to the core, core is 700 w/ mem @ 950.

[DaMulta]

Here is some PALiT GSO scores from ocLIT
http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1354

The popular top 06 score.
1. 3Dmark 2006 - 13383 marks - TheGoat Eater (Overclocking TeamPalit) - (GeForce 9600 GSO @ 800/955mhz [#1 GeForce 9600 GSO in 3Dmark 2006] on air)

This was done on the stock cooler I believe, Dom has done this too on the stock cooler.


Another thread to look at for the 9600 GSO
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=63671

[DaMulta]

Dom just posted a 14k score on Hwbot with the Sonic 9600GSO
3Dmark 2006 Hall Of Fame:
3Dmark 2006 - 14200 marks - DOM (Overclocking TeamPalit) [ inspect ]
Processor: 4x Xeon X3350 @ 3802mhz on h2o [ view screenshot ]
Videocard: GeForce 9600 GSO @ 850/985mhz on h2o
Memory: 2048MB DDR2 PC8500 @ 1188mhz CL5.0 5-5-15 2T
Motherboard: P5B Deluxe P965
Global Rank: not in top 1000, not ranked yet, or not the best result with this hardware of this user.
Hardware Rank: not ranked or not in top 100
Description: no description
Verfication: no verification image or link found.
Scan date: 25-06-2008 06:50

[ChromeDome]

wow this card is returning some pretty decent scores. very nice for teh budget gamer :D

[john34]

i could overclock my 8800gs to 765mhz core, 1902mhz shader and 1030mhz memory. i score over 11000 on 3dmark 06.

[john34]

i think 8800gs is faster than a 8800gts 640mb with those clocks. :P. its so close to 8800gt anyway.

i get 25 to 30 fps on crysis at very high settings 1280*1200 resolution. im happy :).

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i jumped ship, went ati .. got a hd3870 :(

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

this is what id get

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261014

[john34]

why didnt u get a 8800GS :(? 8800gs is better than 3870. sell it and buy a 8800GS. u wont regret it. dont go for 8800gt. 8800gt is not worth it. 8800gs would be the best bang for the bunk and is close to 8800gs. in here 8800gt is $80 more expensive than 8800gs. which is not worth it.

[ChromeDome]

_FBi;858281']i jumped ship, went ati .. got a hd3870 :(
ha! after allll that time and allll those posts in the 8800GS thread, etc....

well good going, anyway. nice card, of course.

[john34]

i think i need a better psu. please check these psus and see which one is good enough for 8800gs plus a dual core cpu. http://www.globespec.co.nz/product.php?PID=18157 and http://www.globespec.co.nz/product.php?PID=19406 . thanks. can i get that 400w psu? is it ideal?

[calvary1980]

holy schnikeys http://www.forumsextreme.com/imgs1/sSc_spin.gif expensive power supplies. I recommend this one (http://www.globespec.co.nz/product.php?PID=1467)

- Christine

[john34]

oh no.too expensive for me . :(. can i choose between the 2 i posted? i dont have alot of money.

[calvary1980]

can you post your system specs. if you can swing it this (http://www.globespec.co.nz/product.php?PID=1468) the Strider 500 would be my choice between the two.

- Christine

[john34]

what about http://www.globespec.co.nz/product.php?PID=19406 ? isnt it good? i have core 2 duo e4500 overclocked to 2.98ghz. 2gb of ddr2 ram. 2 hard drives at 7200rpm. and 1 pci express. plus 2 fans. what do u think?

[calvary1980]

thats the Strider 500. it's fine.

- Christine

[john34]

now when i am idle i have reboots. i had a reboot once when i wasnt even gaming. what is happening ?:( why i should get all these problems as soon as i upgraded my 8600gt to 8800gs???

is there any temp solution till i buy a new psu? its like getting worse and worse. so that Strider 500 $104 is fine for 8800gs and a dual core cpu???

[john34]

this is what i am looking to buy later.

SILVERSTONE ST50F 500W PSU
1. Strong continuous power output
2. Components designed for reliability
3. Dual +12V rails for newest systems
4. Dual 6pin PCI-E connectors
5. Six serial ATA connectors
6. Intelligent 120mm variable speed fan
7. Active PFC

[calvary1980]

yes. please fill out your system specs. User CP, Edit System Specs

- Christine

[john34]

or how about this one?
Silverstone Strider ST400 400W Power Supply Retail
1. Dual +12V rails for newest systems
2. Silent running 120mm fan
3. Four serial ATA connectors
4. Support PCI-E 6 pin connector
5. Strong continuous power output
6. Support ATX 12V 2.2


i listed my spec above. i have a core 2 duo e4500 2.20ghz overclocked to 2.98ghz. 2GB of RAM DDR2, 2 hard drives running at 7200RPM, 2 case fans, 1 cpu fan. and 8800gs and 1 DVD RW drive.

and how about this one http://www.playtech.co.nz/product.php?action=showdetail&id=4442

that 400W PSU would be enough as well or not????

[john34]

please somebody help me in here.

[calvary1980]

I already told you. the Silverstone Strider 500 is fine.

- Christine

[john34]

i found the some error messages in the minidump log file everytime i get disconnected.
one message was about MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION. A fatal Machine Check Exception has occured.
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER _FAULT. I have other logs as well. could it be caused by power supply???

[calvary1980]

post it.

- Christine

[john34]

im afraid if the reboots are due to faulty card. which is most likely to be? power issue or a faulty card? my 8800gs is brand new. I dont want to return back the card and wait for replacement. it takes too long. i hope its power issue. and I got a reboot once while i was in desktop.

[john34]

on my psu it says the maximum output is 478w

[john34]

does anyone havea Gigabyte geforce 9600gso or 8800gs in here?

[john34]

does anyone know if there is a new BIOS update for 8800GS cards?????

[newtekie1]

I don't know, but I believe if you can get your hands on a 9600GSO BIOS, you should be able to flash it to your 8800GS.

I however just stepped up my eVGA 8800GS to a eVGA 9600GSO. I wanted the dual slot cooler.

[john34]

9600gso is the same thing :P. i guess i solved my rebooting problem. it seemed that there was a power leak as the power cable wasnt connected to the motherboard properly. i also disconnected my 120mm case fan just in case to save the power. i never had reboots since then. I also got the chance to overclock my card to 1932mhz shader, 789mhz core and 1050mhz memory. i will keep on overclocking if i dont have an issue. so far i dont have any issue while playing crysis. the frame rate is smooth at very high settings on 1280*1200 resolution. that would be as smooth as a 8800gt with that speed :P. i tried company of heroes, i can play it on max settings at my max resolution which is 1600*1200 and still can get 40 to 50fps during the game. thats amazing :).
i prefer 8800GS over 9600gt or 8800gt anyday. just because 9600gt is 256 bit and has 512mb ram doesnt mean its faster than 8800gs. i never liked 9600gt. with the clocks that i reached i am sure it surpasses 9600gt and is very close to 8800gt. i guess i won the lottery of my life :P. i scored 11500 on 3dmark 06.

[smig]

@John - this is the 4th. topic I noticed you ask for help with your reboots problems.
please put all the problems you have with your specific card and rig in one single post.
good god it solved ;)

[yem]

hey guys to the bios list with vga bios i found gainward 8800gs with these clocks core720 shader 1780 an memmory 2000. i am owner of 9600gso and i want to flash this bios to my card but i dont know if it works.can someone help me about this?
i dont want to destroy my card

[newtekie1]

What brand is your 9600GSO? I wouldn't risk flashing a different brand BIOS, especially not one from Gainward as I believe they use custom PCBs and BIOSes. You are probably better off just overclocking your card via software, or modifying your own BIOS and flashing it to the card.

[yem]

i have biostar 9600gso and i have mod it to galaxy 9600 gso with these clocks core 618 shader 1475 and memory 2040 the card is very stable but i want more power and i want beter bios to flash it because i cant overclock more the shaders clock. do you have a beter bios for me? the card before was core 550 shaders 1375 memmory 1600 with biostar bios

[yem]

the problem is i cant risk it because the new cards if something goes wrong can not be fixed.if you flash a wrong bios then you cant flash it with the original bios because your pc cant boot there is no way to flash it even if you have a pci card the pc wont boot whith these new cards

[john34]

what would happen if you increase your shader clock?????

[yem]

what would happen if you increase your shader clock?????

if i increase it and test it with ati tool i get artifacts.

[yem]

i have tested my card and the temperature at full load is 96c and it works perfect to my pc :D . to my friends pc the temperature with my card ise only 65 c strange and you can increase more the shader clocs core and memory

[john34]

dont u get any restarts or freezing due to overclock?

[yem]

dont u get any restarts or freezing due to overclock?

no i am not geting restarts the card works perfect. i think the problem is the old motherboard not the overclock.the card to new motherboars is at 65 c. with overclocking i get 2c more. so to a new motherboard i can overclockit more because the temp is too low

[john34]

i think those restarts were due to my overclocked E4500. what can i do to make the overclock stable? when i tried to stress test the cpu with prime95 my computer restarts after 2 minutes. is it because of the overheating or the lack of voltage????

[yem]

i think those restarts were due to my overclocked E4500. what can i do to make the overclock stable? when i tried to stress test the cpu with prime95 my computer restarts after 2 minutes. is it because of the overheating or the lack of voltage????
dont overclockit :D you dont need to overclock this cpu i think is enaugh for you.or try to do stable overclocking.is not the overheating. if you overclock the cpu you also overclock the pci express bus try do reduse the clock of your cpu

[john34]

my current clocks are 801mhz core, 1920mhz shader and 1070mhz memory. i could manage to reach 51.4 GB/s memory bandwidth, 9.6 GPixels pixel fillrate and 33.6 GTexels Texture fillrate. so far its stable. pretty good eh?

i guess im lucky i bought Gigabyte version. because it came with an aftermarket zalman cooler. otherwise it would get too hot i would not be able to overclock it that much.

[john34]

i have core 2 duo e4500 at 2.97ghz. would it bottleneck my 8800GS? i cant overclock my cpu anymore.

[yem]

my current clocks are 801mhz core, 1920mhz shader and 1070mhz memory. i could manage to reach 51.4 GB/s memory bandwidth, 9.6 GPixels pixel fillrate and 33.6 GTexels Texture fillrate. so far its stable. pretty good eh?

i guess im lucky i bought Gigabyte version. because it came with an aftermarket zalman cooler. otherwise it would get too hot i would not be able to overclock it that much.

wow your card is amazing i think your card is beter than 9600 gt now

[john34]

:P. thanks ;p