which is butter 8800gtx or 9800gtx

[hayder.master]

i am ask the butter of 8800gtx 768 or 9800gtx 512

[DeathTyrant]

The 9800GTX is better, although in some cases (high resolutions) the 8800GTX might possibly come out on top.

[MikeJeng]

Like in COD4.


But the GTX is so hot it will burn down your house.

[oli_ramsay]

The 9800GTX is better

[Mussels]

i am afraid neither video card is butter.

The 9800GTX is better however - despite having less ram, it has a more powerful GPU, runs a lot cooler, uses less power, and has far more powerful Decoding for High Definition media. I own an 8800GTX and an 8800GT (the 9800GTX is very similar to the 8800GT) and i can say that the 9800GTX will prove far superior.

[CHAOS_KILLA]

HD3870X2 is better!

[newconroer]

In terms of performance, it's very close. While we assume the 8800 would have better power at the top end with high resolutions, the 9800 stays right with it, however, the 9800 suffers lower minimum FPS with it's reduced bandwidth/memory.

+1 for 8800

In terms of power requirements, cooling and etc. The 9800 is suprisingly efficient drawing upon less power than expected, and needing less special cooling or high fan speeds to keep it within it's limits.

+1 for 9800


Pricing

Depending on where you live(naturally), prices will vary, though it seems the 8800 GTX prices are slightly lower in some places. Yet majorily, both the 8800 and 9800 are roughly the same in most cases, or within a margin of difference that's not worth concerning yourself over. A lot expected the 8800 price to fall even more, however distributors and resellers are not mindless drones. They know the 8800 GTX's performance and how much value it can still hold.

Having said that, if you'd like to save a little bit of money, I'd find yourself an EVGA 8800 GTS 512. With the money saved from not purchasing a GTX, you can afford to spend a little more on making sure you get an EVGA model for the warranty and step up program, which might come in handy later on. Note: I do not mean to purchase a "KO" or pre-overclocked one, stock will be fine.

[Mussels]

newconroer: the 8800GTX sells for $600-$700, while i can get a 9800GTX for $380. the 9800GTX is VERY cheap in some countries.

[panchoman]

neither!

this is butter:

http://www.dairy.com.au/consumers/images/dairyaustralia/agda_07_tatura_butter.jpg

sorry.. had to do that lol...

i think the 9800 is better..

[newconroer]

You live in Australia; I'm sorry but that's not a competitive region :)

I cannot include everyone. Though he's in Iraq, which means if he is after a card, he most certainly will be getting it from either US, UK or somewhere else in Europe.

[wolf]

its the 9800GTX absolutely, that G92 core just loves to be over clocked, and the 0.8ns memory on it is very nice.

mine runs happily all day @ 800/2000/2500 which makes for some really smooth gaming.

[Mussels]

well since my GT beats my GTX (as the GT is overclocked) i have no doubts that the 9800GTX will pwn an 8800GTX, unelss its a situation in which the video cards extra ram/ram bandwidth comes into play.

[mk_ln]

well since my GT beats my GTX (as the GT is overclocked) i have no doubts that the 9800GTX will pwn an 8800GTX, unelss its a situation in which the video cards extra ram/ram bandwidth comes into play.

how does it beat your GTX? are you referring to benchmark scores or actual performance?

thanks

[Mussels]

how does it beat your GTX? are you referring to benchmark scores or actual performance?

thanks

both. uptil 1680x1050 res, my GT is faster. It is overclocked to its limits (as is the GTX) but at resolutions below 1080p, the faster GPU/shaders matters more. its as simple as that. games do not use 768MB of ram yet.

edit: at stock clocks the GTX is of course faster. Its just that G92 based chips OC superbly, whilst still remaining cold. My GT is passively cooled, while my GTX overheats with a cooler far larger unless it has at least a 92mm fan on it.

[Guarana]

The 9800's dump most of the heat into the case, which really sucks. This is based off of a few friends who purchased some 9800's and all they do is complain about the heat dumping into the case.

Where in Iraq are you? Why don't you hit up some CA people to get you a video card, say you're the electrical engineer for Taji or something and request it. Too easy.

Of course if you said you were the electrical engineer of Taji.. I'd have to approve of the funds going to you, so I wouldn't suggest it.

[Solaris17]

neither are butter the 9800GTX is technically better but bleeds mroe heat than the 8800

[wolf]

actually my 9800GTX runs very cool, i have put after market cooling on, but it was a decision solely driven by how loud the stock fan is at 100% constant.

keep in mind that if Mussels's 8800GT is faster than an 8800GTX (both max oc) at res's under 1920x1200, then my 9800GTX running even faster (+6%), with more shaders (+12.5%), and the memory providing +25% more bandwith, well, thats a hands down sub 1920x1200 win.

definatly nvidias best single gpu card out, given that youll have to buy it, so an Ultra just isnt worth the money.

[Solaris17]

i want a gtx or gx2 soooo bad.

im actually gonna save for 2x GX2's so i can punch crysis in the face. hopefully at that time ill also have a q6600 @ ~3.6ghz.

[CHAOS_KILLA]

HD3870X2 is better

[CHAOS_KILLA]

wait for the next generation man, its not that far off

[D4S4]

i want a gtx or gx2 soooo bad.

im actually gonna save for 2x GX2's so i can punch crysis in the face. hopefully at that time ill also have a q6600 @ ~3.6ghz.

Solaris17-> :nutkick: <-Crysis

Hell yeah!!! :rockout: :rockout: :rockout: ROFL!

:toast:

Anyways, 9800Gtx should be better in most cases.

[wolf]

and i dunno about you guys but my 9800GTX it totally butter :D if the motherboard was bread....

hey Sol, my single 9800GTX already punches Crysis in the face, i can play DX10 at 1280x1024/1440x900 and its smooth as, lowest fps ive seen is about 28, which is way above the threshold of playable for crysis. although the quad core at 3.6ghz probably has something to do with that... however i will be moving to a 1920x1200 screen soon so im tossing up SLi now, or 9900 in a few months...

[Solaris17]

i love my sli..had to go to xp x64 to get it though the vista x64 drivers wouldnt do it...but in XP all settings on high and the cards oc'd i dont dip below 40 at 1440x900 so i think im doing pretty good. i wanted a GTX so bad but once iv gone sli.....im just not sure if i want to go back to 1 card..i might have to do sli all the time now...the one card might get lonely..i hope these 2 get along. but after returning 5 9600 these 2 worked so they must.

[spearman914]

If you are gaming in the mid resolutions like 1680 x 1050 then the 9800 GTX wins. They have the same gpus as the 8800 gts while clocks a bit higher. The 8800 GTX has a different GPU and lower clocks although has more VRAM and Memory Bandwidth which makes it useful at higher resolutions ONLY (Ex:1920 x 1200)

[wolf]

i really want to get a 8800GTX (or borrow one) and oc it to the max, then run a comprehensive set of benchmarks myself.

[Smartbomb]

neither!

this is butter:

http://www.dairy.com.au/consumers/images/dairyaustralia/agda_07_tatura_butter.jpg

sorry.. had to do that lol...

i think the 9800 is better..
OMG I think I just pee'd a little:laugh:
Man I do feel bad for it though

[largon]

neither are butter the 9800GTX is technically better but bleeds mroe heat than the 8800http://img.techpowerup.org/080510/GTX-61.jpg
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/5363-bfg-9800gtx-512mb-review-17.html (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/5363-bfg-9800gtx-512mb-review-17.html)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080510/chart_total_consumption.png
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9800gtx-review,1800-12.html (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9800gtx-review,1800-12.html)

[wolf]

HD3870X2 is better

completely irrelevant fanboyism, please keep it out of this thread, and next time read the title.

and even so your point is highly debatable. if you want to debate it, start a new thread please.

[hayder.master]

neither!

this is butter:

http://www.dairy.com.au/consumers/images/dairyaustralia/agda_07_tatura_butter.jpg

sorry.. had to do that lol...

i think the 9800 is better..


thnak's my friend you make me shy:banghead:

[btarunr]

8800 GTX + <Your OC here> is better.

Reviews are pretty divided, some show 9800 GTX to beat 8800 Ultra (though with insignificant leads) while others show it's a disappointment, that it's doing nearly the same as 8800 GTX. Since the prices of 8800 GTX are going down, I'd pick the EVGA 8800 GTX, give it a decent OC. End up with a better memory subsystem for the card. More means moar.

[Fahim]

I have both cards at the moment, so if anyone wants, i can post some benchmark results here.

[wolf]

8800 GTX + <Your OC here> is better.

Reviews are pretty divided, some show 9800 GTX to beat 8800 Ultra (though with insignificant leads) while others show it's a disappointment, that it's doing nearly the same as 8800 GTX. Since the prices of 8800 GTX are going down, I'd pick the EVGA 8800 GTX, give it a decent OC. End up with a better memory subsystem for the card. More means moar.

see in aus the 9800GTX is $400 flat, and the 8800GTX is anywhere from 550 to 700 AUD, so the 9800GTX is the far better choice, given that in most situations, which happen to be at or below 1920x1200 with some AA and AF, the 9800GTX wins. not to mention HUGE oc potential, especially with a vmod. even with a vmod, the 8800GTX would put out waaaaaay to much heat.

i will grant that with huge res, lots of AA and big texture games, the 8800GTX can have its advantages, but its just not worth the price and the heat.

[btarunr]

see in aus the 9800GTX is $400 flat, and the 8800GTX is anywhere from 550 to 700 AUD, so the 9800GTX is the far better choice, given that in most situations, which happen to be at or below 1920x1200 with some AA and AF, the 9800GTX wins. not to mention HUGE oc potential, especially with a vmod. even with a vmod, the 8800GTX would put out waaaaaay to much heat.

i will grant that with huge res, lots of AA and big texture games, the 8800GTX can have its advantages, but its just not worth the price and the heat.

Yeah, but he's from Iraq. Their prices are high in their markets but usually, the people make their acquaintances (or friends) who keep shuttling between the US and Iraq bring hardware from there. In the US, the 8800 GTX from EVGA price took a nose-dive. I've guided Hayder buy a Gigabyte 8800 GT in the past, and he got it for less than US $300 which isn't uncommon there considering other brands' 8800 GT costs like US $350+ by Iraq's market rates. So, the smart choice if you live in Iraq is that you make a few American friends, make them bring you hardware from America each time they go back home on a leave.

[mlee49]

http://www.dairy.com.au/consumers/images/dairyaustralia/agda_07_tatura_butter.jpg



I cant believe it's not butter! :laugh:

I like the 9800 series personally...

[Mussels]

more or less teh consensus is that the 9800GTX is better, but if you already have an 8800GTX (or can get one realllly cheap) then there is no reason to upgrade to the 9800.

[Dia01]

Wait for the new gen's to come out. If you can't, like the majority, 9800GTX.:D

[Huxley2k7]

Don't mean to hijack this thread at all, but i saw someone mention they got an aftermarket cooler for the 9800GTX. So, what's a good after market cooler for the 9800 GTX? :D

[btarunr]

Don't mean to hijack this thread at all, but i saw someone mention they got an aftermarket cooler for the 9800GTX. So, what's a good after market cooler for the 9800 GTX? :D

Thermaltake DuOrb (http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Cooler/VGAnCHIPnMEM/CL-G0102/cl-g0102.asp) looks pretty compatible. The screw-holes on a 9800 GTX PCB resembles that of 8800 GTS G92. So the main unit has no problems fitting ; the kit includes heatsinks for memory and MOSFETs. 9800 GTX isn't part of the support list, but trust me, the 8800 Ultra (that's in the list) has a similar TDP to 9800 GTX, hence, this cooler shouldn't fall out. Arctic Cooling Accelero Xtreme 8800 works great as well.

[driver66]

:laugh: At the title :roll: 9800 IMO

[Mussels]

the 9800 is a G92 card, so most G92 coolers will fit. you could probably even get an accelero S1 on there, and slap a fan onto it.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00032CDPA.01-A3CDPEGSIQM61V._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Guarana]

I got two 9800 GX2's with DD Waterblocks for it. I haven't been able to install them in my rig yet or do anything with the cards, so it's just a game of patience.

[hayder.master]

anyone put another butter sign here
thanx for butter guys