View Full Version : blu-ray has it won the war
rampage
05-16-2008, 06:43 PM
Before i buy a blu-ray drive i thought i had double check ans see if blu-ray has won the war...
yes, HD-DVD has been discontinued.
beyond_amusia
05-16-2008, 06:44 PM
HD DVD is deader than dead... =/
rampage
05-16-2008, 06:52 PM
k, thanks
niko084
05-16-2008, 06:53 PM
All thanks to a BIG sony payoff...
Dr. Spankenstein
05-16-2008, 07:51 PM
Yea, I won't post my "sour grapes" but Blu ray is (unfortunately) now the ONLY way.
I'm about to purchase a LG Super drive that is a Blu burner/player and HD DVD ROM!
Go me!
niko084
05-16-2008, 08:15 PM
Well on the down side every early adapter for bluray got ripped!
None of the current players up to today even will be worth anything in 2 years, except the ps3 which isn't too great, especially on a videophile standpoint.
imperialreign
05-16-2008, 08:23 PM
someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I had heard HD-DVD will be continued but only for the PC market as a form of storage media. Something along the lines that since HD-DVD used standard DVD manufacturing techniques, they can continue it for new softare titles so they don't need to use 2+ standard DVD disks . . . but no movies.
don't remember where I read that, though . . . :confused:
niko084
05-16-2008, 08:30 PM
Thats very possible... But I'm not certain.
razaron
05-16-2008, 08:35 PM
i think hd-dvd is already in in games use because dl-dvd's are 10gb's so how could a non bluray media hold turok, its like 12-13gb's.
niko084
05-16-2008, 08:43 PM
i think hd-dvd is already in in games use because dl-dvd's are 10gb's so how could a non bluray media hold turok, its like 12-13gb's.
Compression :)
A non HD drive will not read a HD disk, its a different format.
razaron
05-16-2008, 08:52 PM
:confused:my computer reads turok as 13gb's so is that with or without commpression.
niko084
05-16-2008, 08:59 PM
:confused:my computer reads turok as 13gb's so is that with or without commpression.
In computers you can overburn and really nice presses that punch out disks like that can do it far more, so its probably just a dual layer dvd or I guess its possible its a triple layer maybe...
imperialreign
05-16-2008, 09:02 PM
In computers you can overburn and really nice presses that punch out disks like that can do it far more, so its probably just a dual layer dvd or I guess its possible its a triple layer maybe...
haven't heard of a triple layer yet
a dual layer typically holds about 8-9GB of information. If a game is broken down into seperate packs and then compressed individually, it's quite possible to force 13GB uncompressed to an 8GB disk.
niko084
05-16-2008, 09:04 PM
haven't heard of a triple layer yet
a dual layer typically holds about 8-9GB of information. If a game is broken down into seperate packs and then compressed individually, it's quite possible to force 13GB uncompressed to an 8GB disk.
No thats true, I am under the impression he was talking about the drive reports the disk as 13gb of data, which should report physical data not de-compressed.
Easy Rhino
05-16-2008, 09:06 PM
All thanks to a BIG sony payoff...
the HD-DVD crew paid out tons of money for universal exclusivity. both sides paid out tons of cash. hd-dvd didnt "lose" because of money, they lost because of bad marketing and poor business strategy.
niko084
05-16-2008, 09:07 PM
the HD-DVD crew paid out tons of money for universal exclusivity. both sides paid out tons of cash. hd-dvd didnt "lose" because of money, they lost because of bad marketing and poor business strategy.
Didn't know HD did a payoff, but the last payoff was the deciding factor. Bad marketing and poor strategy is most deffinetely always a major factor.
imperialreign
05-16-2008, 09:10 PM
No thats true, I am under the impression he was talking about the drive reports the disk as 13gb of data, which should report physical data not de-compressed.
good point, I overlooked that.
in that case, IDK - everything I've just looked at on triple layer points to HD-DVD, even stating that current DVD players wouldn't work with a triple layer DVD :confused:
niko084
05-16-2008, 09:11 PM
Hmm well then.... Maybe just a really big overburn... lol
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