new to overclocking

[drag0n439]

im looking to overclock my ram and cpu if possible with what i have
this is what i have
asus p5k se mobo
intel E4400
4x1gb corsair xms 2(5.5.5.18)
rosewell 750watt psu

possible overclocking it some without buy a new cpu cooler?

[Duxx]

Easiest way is to just up the MHZ in the bios, usually 5-10 at a time. With a stock cooler, you will want to watch the temperatures very close. Dont go balls to the wall and excite yourself while your CPU slowly dies(or fast). Thats a good place to start :)

[drag0n439]

cool. around what temp should i look for just idoling speed?

[dadi_oh]

cool. around what temp should i look for just idoling speed?

Load temps are more important than idle temps. Get yourself Prime95 or Orthos (the links are in a sticky at the top of this forum). Load both cores with small FFTs to check the CPU stability and temps and then go to a balanced test to check out CPU + Memory.

Measure your core temps with Realtemp or Coretemp or Speedfan. A lot of pople like to keep the cores under 60 at full load but I think mid-60's is still OK. Tj max on most of the C2D's is 95C although my E8200 is 105C according to Coretemp?

Do your research first and then proceed in small steps, watching your temps and testing stability and you'll be fine. Welcome to the OC community :)

[Kirby123]

is there a program i can get to see the temp of my CPU? i oc mine 200 mhz i have the E8400 3.0 ghz now at 3.24ghz

[Paulieg]

is there a program i can get to see the temp of my CPU? i oc mine 200 mhz i have the E8400 3.0 ghz now at 3.24ghz

Several. coretemp speedfan, and realtemp for starters. Coretemp and realtemp measure core temperatures, which is 10-12c higher than cpu temps, usually.

[Kirby123]

well i oc my processor to 3.4ghz and the rest of the specs are on the picture, this is on air, not liquid :). i am quite impressed with this processor

[Duxx]

Several. coretemp speedfan, and realtemp for starters. Coretemp and realtemp measure core temperatures, which is 10-12c higher than cpu temps, usually.

Apparently RealTemp is more accurate for the E8xxx series than coretemp is. Their TJ max are different allowing for a 10 degree difference. I'd give real temp a shot.


The E8400 should hit 4.0 very easily, i had to barely bump the vcore(core voltage) to get it stable at 4.0. I would recommend getting an alternative cooler to the intel POS they send you if you decide you want to take it to another level. :)

[Kirby123]

well ill try realtemp then, and compair

[Kirby123]

actually i would stick with coretemp because it seems to update it better than real temp.. well thanks for the help guys. i still would like to know the fastest the E8400 can go on air. ppl say it breaks 4.0 ghz on air
but i would like to stay safe :)

[Duxx]

lol what do you mean updates it better?

http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

I would take a look :)

I have hit 4.3 on mine, dont want to kill anything yet though. Ill aim higher tomorrow. Im running stable 4.2 and currently seeing how little vcore i can go for 4.0

[Kursah]

cool. around what temp should i look for just idoling speed?

It's not really the idle speed you need to focus on, but more-so the LOAD speed. Just remember the recommended CPU Stress tests like Orthos, OCCT and Prime95 will load your CPU heavier than most programs out there for the usual gamer/user, so you could easily lop off 2-5C off of the highest temp these programs extract from stressing your CPU and be fine.

Many people focus on the idle temps...really that's "e-penis" junk...if your idle is a tad high, yet you can keep your load temps well within specs, who cares? Personally that's how I view it, sure in most instances, if you have a colder idle temp, in theory you "should" have a lower load temp...but with power saving options turned on like I do, you will have cooler idle temps in comparison to those power saving features disabled and running the CPU at full speed/voltage at all times.

Just make sure to research your components, get an idea of what they can do, understand that 4GB of memory may not OC as well as a 2GB kit, not all hardware will OC the same....set a goal that's realistic, like 20% increase on CPU speed. Find a way to get there with stable results, get your memory settings figured out, find out what voltages need changed if any, verify it's stable for a few hours and decide if it's worth moving beyond that point. To an extent, overclocking becomes more bragging rights than practicality...2 cores at 3.0-3.5GHz in reality will suffice for most gamers/users out there for quite a while...4GB of memory even at stock speed will do a good job...things to watch are temps, GPU power and such if gaming is the plan. Sure there can be bottle necks...but a modern CPU in dual/quad core with 3.0+ GHz will generally take care of that.

So like I said, set a goal, don't set it too high, ensure you have decent airflow in your case, if overclocking, an aftermarket CPU cooler is recommended for sure...and on the Graphics side...depends on the card, and it's cooling solution. Research and Google are your best friend, take advantage of it to get an idea of what others are achiving out of the hardware/components you have, plus you may learn about what settings are more helpful than others, anything to gain knowlege here is definately a plus!

Hope that helps! :toast:

[Kirby123]

The temp frequently changes, the other one i have to keep clicking refresh -.-

[Kursah]

The temp frequently changes, the other one i have to keep clicking refresh -.-

That will happen, it's not unusual by any means...my temps never stop moving...if it sits on idle or load long enoug it'll get within 1-2C of changing and I take the average (usually the higher end) and post that for my results.

[Kirby123]

i have the stock one that came in the box and the tempis around 50 for cpu, my gpu is oc and that temp is around 50 to 60, i mean for gaming my fps did jump with 400 extra mhz

[Kursah]

i have the stock one that came in the box and the tempis around 50 for cpu, my gpu is oc and that temp is around 50 to 60, i mean for gaming my fps did jump with 400 extra mhz

I'm assuming 400 extrea MHz on the CPU, which odds are were included with extra MHz on the FSB, which affecst the memory bus too, even with dividers to keep the memory in check at stable speeds, increasing the system bus, memory bus and cpu speed can make a huge difference. I noticed a huge performance increase on my e6300 powered rig when I took that dual core from 1.86GHz stock to 3.5GHz OC'd, with temps that maxed in the mid 50's under stress, and never hit 50 when gaming...my memory was at a 1:1 ratio, went from DDR800 to DDR1000 and system bus went from 1066 to 2000 (FSB), this will help...but the major factor in games will be the GPU itself...the rest of the system can help greatly, but the greatest impact will be on the graphics end of the situation for sure.

:toast:

[Kirby123]

the fastest my processor goes is 6.3 something ghz. i got scred when i put it on max but i didnt apply it :O , omg my comp would be dead if i did........ XD since im just on air. lol well i ment the extra on the speed. 3.4 ghz instead of 3.0