Anyone know when these boards will be out?

[fitseries3]

My sources have been totally wrong lately so im looking to see if anyone else has heard anything on the Asus P5Q3 or the Asus Pinot Noir and when they are going to be available. i have read all the 50+ reviews on both of them so i wont be needing any of that information.

and in case you have no idea what im talking about...

Asus P5Q3 = 775, P45+ICH10R, DDR3

Asus Pinot Noir = 775, X48+ICH10R, DDR3

[Gam'ster]

OCUK have them for pre order now but for the states im not sure ill have a hunt around im not doing much atm, but heres a link anyway:

P45's (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=1155)

Gam