decided to go Quad + 3Dmark06 update

[echo75]

Well folks i decided to take the plunge, i found a cheap Q6700 on the local online auction and since it cost an equvalent of just $189 i thought.. why not try it out even though i was happy with my E6850.

Many may ask why a q6700 and not a q9450 ? well first and foremost was the price bargain ,then (according to what i read on some forums)they say the q6700 clocks higher than the q9450, due to the fact that it can handle alot more voltage than the q9450. The q9450 has an 8x multi, the q6700 has a 10x multi. Thus giving more room to play overclocker :pimp: . Maybe thats why intel is phasing out the Q6700 since it may reduce the sales of the higher procs. At my current setting i am actually running it higher than a Q9550 and according to the internet, there room for more.

Well i got it today , it ran stock at 2.66GHz with a multiplier 10 and GO version and a 8 MB cache. i modestly overclocked the bastard to 3.5Ghz (i can probably take it higher but i am too tired for today) and dammit this quad is screeching!!

load temps are 68,68,65,66 C and it idles at 43,43 ,42,38 C . at the overclocked settings.

take a look at 3dmark06

[mrw1986]

That's a high vcore for 3.5ghz...it takes me 1.45v to hit 4ghz on my Q6600, with only a 9x multi...

[echo75]

yeah Mrw1986, i am kindda impressed. May just be selling my E6850 afterall.

[mrw1986]

I would, Q6700 is much better IMO. Also great price! I might be selling my Q6600 soon (seems to be a golden chip!). I'm getting a QX6850 very soon to play with :)

[newtekie1]

That's a high vcore for 3.5ghz...it takes me 1.45v to hit 4ghz on my Q6600, with only a 9x multi...

The later G0's don't overclock nearly as well. My G0 Q6600 won't do 3.6GHz even with 1.5v.

[ZenZimZaliben]

those voltage levels, and temps are very high. have your primed it yet? Run 4 instances of the 2M or 4M and see what you peak at. Anything close to 70 is throwing the dice.

[echo75]

those voltage levels, and temps are very high. have your primed it yet? Run 4 instances of the 2M or 4M and see what you peak at. Anything close to 70 is throwing the dice.

Intel specifies the Thermal specification (Tcase) for this CPU to be 71 C mine is 53 C under load , those values i gave are core temps (tjunction) which maximum for this processor is between 95 C and 100 C so i am still way off.

i have run OCCT and ORTHOS.

the confusion comes from the 2 terms Tcase and Tjunction

Tcase is what intel specifies .( NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TEMP IN PC CASE) . Temprature of the CPU die case if you like
Tjunction is the Max Core temps (intel is silent on this but it ranges between 95 C -100 C )

* Intel Processor Spec Finder: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx


Intel Thermal Specifications:

(*) The thermal specification shown is the maximum case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for that processor. It is measured at the geometric center on the topside of the processor integrated heat spreader.

(**) For processors without integrated heat spreaders such as mobile processors, the thermal specification is referred to as the junction temperature (Tj). The maximum junction temperature is defined by an activation of the processor Intel® Thermal Monitor. The Intel Thermal Monitor's automatic mode is used to indicate that the maximum TJ has been reached.

Read this for a detailed explanation- http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/221745-11-core-quad-temperature-guide

[ZenZimZaliben]

Thanks...I completely understand the difference.

Just in your post you say under load youre hitting 68c on some of the cores. That is to hot IMO,,and thats exactly what it is...an opinion. You can push it as hard as you like. I try to keep my chip under 65.

[echo75]

Thanks...I completely understand the difference.

Just in your post you say under load youre hitting 68c on some of the cores. That is to hot IMO,,and thats exactly what it is...an opinion.

so analysis of the temp ranges for the Q6700 are given as-

-Tcase/Tjunction-
--70--/--75--75--75--75-- Hot
--65--/--70--70--70--70-- Warm
--60--/--65--65--65--65-- Safe
--25--/--30--30--30--30-- Cool


my Tcase is falls into = cool (Safe starts from 60 )
My Tjunction falls also into Safe (close to warm which starts from 70)

None of em are even Hot ;)

the articale explains it all.

[EarlZ]

65c is even to hot for a Q6xxx / Q9xxxx you might wanna tone down the clocks to 3.2Ghz and settle for 1.315v bios

[ZenZimZaliben]

Ahh see..that is all I was saying...you are in the warm. I prefer to stay in the safe range. Although once I have owned this chip for a little while longer I may start pushing into the warm/hot...just to do it.

[echo75]

65c is even to hot for a Q6xxx / Q9xxxx you might wanna tone down the clocks to 3.2Ghz and settle for 1.315v bios

Actually on the contrary EarlZ, if u run 65 C on stress/load u are perfectly in the Safe zone, read the technical article it explains it all.

[mrw1986]

Actually on the contrary EarlZ, if u run 65 C on stress/load u are perfectly in the Safe zone, read the technical article it explains it all.

QFT...also my Q6600 G0 is from a later batch, January I believe. I'll check when I get home.

[kyle2020]

im going to have to consider an intel + qyad core system next year. You hear people say how they are getting speeds of 3.4Ghz + on a quad, and im struggling to get 3.2 on a dual core. Makes me so jealous! haha. Going to wait for prices to come down though, and i might have to consider the E8400. Lets see!

Might i add, impressive 3dmark score - whats your GT running at? going to properly overclock mine by end of this week when my accelero arrives :D

[echo75]

Might i add, impressive 3dmark score - whats your GT running at? going to properly overclock mine by end of this week when my accelero arrives :D


thanks, 720/1800/2100