5000+ BE Need help with HT and Voltages

[MDK22]

You can see my full specs in my system specs thing. Right now I am running at 3225Ghz 31C@Idle/42C@Load prime 95 stable 2hrs 41 mins the problem i am having is when i lower the multiplier and up the frequency my stuff just stops working cant boot windows :banghead:. I tried setting the HT multiplier lower but it doesn't seem to want to take so I am wondering is there a bios option somewhere that i could have overlooked. :banghead:

Also my memory since the oc is now at 403.5 cpu/8 5-5-5-15-23-2T 1.9v. I know the ram is good stuff as it is listed under the TechPowerUp ram review (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/OCZ/PC2-6400Crossfire/3.html) The previous setting is listed in system specs.

My Mobo is supposed to be able to handle 380Mhz according to Tech Report (http://techreport.com/articles.x/11629/15)

I tried upping the voltage on the cpu never went above 1.375. For fear of frying stuff. Ran at 213 x16 v1.375 3408 booted but unstable. The other thing that I am wondering is if it isn't possible it could be pci-e voltages.

Also I don't know if this is just pc probe flipping out but every 5-6 hrs it will say my vcore has jumped to some ridiculous number between 2.91-3.91 which unless im mistaken if it did my processor would be a flamming pile of dog crap.:confused: The other lovely thing is that the voltage information is displayed improperly 1.37-1.39 @1.35v in bios by just about everything i have run unless asus is auto adjusting it even though its set manually. This along with core temp/everest/speedfan telling me my cpu temp is something like 1-2C is not nice, lovely brisbane glitch.:twitch: This means im relying on pc probe/AI Booster for info which i really dont like.:cry:

So basically I am overclocking this thing blind all and all im doing pretty well but my goal is 4Ghz on air :D if possible but I definitely need some help as this is my first amd system and my first major cpu overclock. I am going to be with my girl all day :nutkick: so i wont be back on till late tonight.

If you have any suggestions I am up for them.:respect:

[iamajunky]

I have a 5000+ be and never have been able to get it to boot over 3.5, if you can hit 4ghz then you are good, but i can't get 3.225ghz with idle temps of 8c in core1 and i've seen it go -1c in core 2 and i primed it for 2hrs and it never went above 21c, but as soon as i bumped it up to 3.5ghz windows booted but when i ran prime it crashed and that's all cpu 220*16, i'll test some more settings later on and let you know what i get

[blkhogan]

The voltage that windows reads on mine is always off (usualy higher than set). I am currenty runing @ 3.2GHz on 1.425v. The voltage that you are running is fine for oc'ing. Once you hit above 3.2 or so a voltage increase is usualy needed. I have had mine @ 3.35GHz on 1.475v. The big thing is to watch your temps. Also to get anything stable above 3.25 I had to give my NB alittle voltage not much though. I run my HT@ 1000MHz with the oc it is around 1065MHz. The number you are trying to get (3.4+) is tough on air. It has been done but not very often. You will have to crank the voltage up to get anything stable that high. Temps usualy get up to high without H2O.

My settings
3.195GHz
x15 multi
213 FSB
1.425v
memory 4-4-4-12 1T @ 399MHz 2.1v

[MainframeTM]

Yeah 3.2 is hard to do. Right now I'm @ 3210 @ voltage of 1.5 - with vdroop it's actually around 1.47 - my ram is set @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.10v @410.3mhz - my htc linek is 1060ish - my multipler is @ x13 & fsb is 214

[SuperStarr]

Well, this is my exampler, not 5000+ BE but still G2 core, pictures will rell you all :) :
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/130/4200opnbi5.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4200opnbi5.jpg)
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/705/x24200g2maxiu2.th.png (http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x24200g2maxiu2.png)

[MDK22]

Sigh its not the same chip though. Mine is a BE which means it should handel stuff better. and is that totally accurate the 1.648 volts? That seems really really high. Also what kind of cooling do you have on it.

[dark2099]

Some chips were known to hit 3.2 with the multi upped to 16x at about 1.4v, I think I pumped my volts up to 1.5v and never got stable at that setting, but did at various combo's of HTT and FSB and multi. So if you are curious, just get into windows and run a benchmark application with different settings and see which give you the best result. Also run SuperPi to see how the ram runs, because I was able to get better scores with my ram at 800MHz due to 400MHz FSB rather than not dropping the ratio and having the ram at 800MHz with a lower FSB.

Edit: I think I am still confused about what I tried to say there.

[MDK22]

Ok I am having a problem with the hyper transport i believe. As soon as i up the fsb from 215 i start to get rounding errors. Is there anyone with an asus board that may be able to shed some light on why when i change my ht multiplier it does not stay. If I up the multiplier i get hardware errors Sum out of something.

[dark2099]

Try upping the voltage, if you are at 215x15x @ 1.35v that might be a little low for that CPU.

[Snipe343]

Personally I've had bad luck overclocking with Asus boards, the fsb never wants to go very high, you might just be out of luck,

[MDK22]

nah i had tried it at 1.375v its the multiplier i cant seem to change it. Even though i change it in the bios its not sticking. I dont think i need to go to 1.4v to get it to stabilize at 220mhz. Im 99% sure its the HT i think i will try to up the voltage but first im going to lock out the ram timings.

So i set my new timings on the ram 400Mhz CPU/8 4-4-4-12-23-2T v1.9. I tried setting the HT Multiplier to 250Mhz x4. It wouldnt boot upped voltage to 1.3v instead of 1.2v it didn't seem to help. PCI voltage i left at Auto. Once i go above 215Mhz system becomes unstable. Above 230Mhz it wont boot. If anyone has any ideas where the bottleneck is let me know

[SuperStarr]

and is that totally accurate the 1.648 volts? That seems really really high. Also what kind of cooling do you have on it.
Buddys, on G2 (that is BE 5000+ - Brisbane G2 core) pump up the Volts w/o fear to 1.55V (on net can be found pin mod) if you have some properly cooling.
That my picture upward, that's with ASUS Silent Knight II Cooler (92fan, SMART enabled), but polished (I gain few °C with polishing), now I have ZALMAN 9700NT and still lower temps.
Temperature is fundamental, if core not goes above 55°C you can pump up the Volts as yo' MoBo can deliver.

BTW; lower the multi above 10-12x and raise FSB, that's real OverClock. :)

[MDK22]

Yeah so i tried uping the voltage to 1.4v and and upped the pci/HT bridges to 1.3v and it corrupted the bios:cry:. So i tried to reflash it, it didn't work:twitch:. I had to do a capacitor drain then reflash it:cool:. I think that has scared me enough to back down. I should have some final results on everything for scores in a bit. As for possibly replacing the mobo seeing as how i don't have money this may take a while. For right now my clocks are what are in my specs.

[exodusprime1337]

If it helps you out at all, i have an asus m2n32 sli delux and i'm currently sitting 76 hour stable at 3.46Ghz. I'm running 288x12 at htt 5x and my board handles it just fine. Whoever said the asus boards don't like a high fsb is wrong. A few tips i might be able to pass to you.

1. don't raise the nb voltage til you hit about 260 fsb, and then only raise it one notch if at all.
2. leave the htt a 4x untill you find what your cpu can handle then do 5x htt. For some reason some be chips like it
3. 1.475-1.525 is about all you'll need to throw at it. I was sitting at 3.35 for the longest time till i found out that i could drop the v from 1.55 to 1.475 and squeezed an extra 100 mhz out of it. My chip will also post at 3.6 Ghz but to this day i've been unsuccessful in getting it stable no matter what i do.
4. If you are feeling brave, take the ihs off that thing. Currently at my clocks and voltage with an ultra 120 xtreme i idle at about 24 and loat at 35. *not bad for any chip*

[exodusprime1337]

Buddys, on G2 (that is BE 5000+ - Brisbane G2 core) pump up the Volts w/o fear to 1.55V (on net can be found pin mod) if you have some properly cooling.
That my picture upward, that's with ASUS Silent Knight II Cooler (92fan, SMART enabled), but polished (I gain few °C with polishing), now I have ZALMAN 9700NT and still lower temps.
Temperature is fundamental, if core not goes above 55°C you can pump up the Volts as yo' MoBo can deliver.

BTW; lower the multi above 10-12x and raise FSB, that's real OverClock. :)



please don't ask him to fry his computer. All because the temperature doesn't go about 55 doesn't mean you can throw a huge amount of voltage at it. 1.5 or lower should get you to the max.

You're also only running at 3.2Ghz which can be done on stock clocks on most be cpu's, you might want to rethink your oc yourself.

[SuperStarr]

Hehe, this (mine) is just bad sample. Maybe it need lower V but I modded him with litz wire, so called pinmod.
I have that OC expirience from Socket A porocessors, I did many this mods on S754 CPUs and all of that is still alive.
My verdict is that temperature and good RAM are crucial for OverClock on AMD CPUs.

[MDK22]

3d Mark 06

6414
2445 SM2.0
2768 HDR/SM3.0
2355 CPU Score

Everest

8885 MB/s Memory Read
8925 MB/s Memory Write
8358 MB/s Memory Copy
47.2 ns Memory Latency
11200 CPU Queen
17027 CPU Photoworxx
36199 KB/s CPU ZLib
7462 CPU AES
5183 FPU Julia
3029 FPU Mandel
8520 FPU SinJulia

Super Pi 32MB 27m 8.110s

[kyle2020]

You can see my full specs in my system specs thing. Right now I am running at 3225Ghz 31C@Idle/42C@Load prime 95 stable 2hrs 41 mins the problem i am having is when i lower the multiplier and up the frequency my stuff just stops working cant boot windows :banghead:. I tried setting the HT multiplier lower but it doesn't seem to want to take so I am wondering is there a bios option somewhere that i could have overlooked. :banghead:

Also my memory since the oc is now at 403.5 cpu/8 5-5-5-15-23-2T 1.9v. I know the ram is good stuff as it is listed under the TechPowerUp ram review (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/OCZ/PC2-6400Crossfire/3.html) The previous setting is listed in system specs.

My Mobo is supposed to be able to handle 380Mhz according to Tech Report (http://techreport.com/articles.x/11629/15)

I tried upping the voltage on the cpu never went above 1.375. For fear of frying stuff. Ran at 213 x16 v1.375 3408 booted but unstable. The other thing that I am wondering is if it isn't possible it could be pci-e voltages.

Also I don't know if this is just pc probe flipping out but every 5-6 hrs it will say my vcore has jumped to some ridiculous number between 2.91-3.91 which unless im mistaken if it did my processor would be a flamming pile of dog crap.:confused: The other lovely thing is that the voltage information is displayed improperly 1.37-1.39 @1.35v in bios by just about everything i have run unless asus is auto adjusting it even though its set manually. This along with core temp/everest/speedfan telling me my cpu temp is something like 1-2C is not nice, lovely brisbane glitch.:twitch: This means im relying on pc probe/AI Booster for info which i really dont like.:cry:

So basically I am overclocking this thing blind all and all im doing pretty well but my goal is 4Ghz on air :D if possible but I definitely need some help as this is my first amd system and my first major cpu overclock. I am going to be with my girl all day :nutkick: so i wont be back on till late tonight.

If you have any suggestions I am up for them.:respect:

with my 5000+ BE i can get to 3.1 stable, 3.2 if im lucky. My problem is my motherboard has limited my voltage settings to 1.4 max. So thats how im stuck. If you could hit 4Ghz STABLE i would kiss your feet haha :laugh:

The voltage readings going slightly up or down is normal - when set to 1.3V, 15x multi @ 3Ghz my voltage fluctuates between 1.27 and 1.34 or so. Its normal, dont worry about it.

Sounds like you may have a sensor damaged or something thats taking temps, or the program might not be installed correctly - if you want a better program, try this (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/840/AMD_Overdrive_2.0.7.html) - its called AMD overdrive, dont know if you have tried it before but its a spot on program.

Keep up the good work overclocking mate, do me proud where i cant do myself proud (that made no sense what so ever but you get me haha). And get some pictures up! :D

[MDK22]

From what I can tell i think my mobo is bad either that or its the bios revision i have revision 1009 and for some reason it hasnt been letting me go back to the previous version 906 that i want to go to. It seems this revision is mainly for phenoms only but this was not listed when i updated the bios. I will be working on a way to downgrade to 906 like i want and go from there.

[MDK22]

Ok so i got this problem the bios doesn't want to flash to 906 because it says the motherboard does not support the eeprom. It is kinda ridiculous that I once I have flashed up I can't flash back. I even made sure to do the downgradable option in AsusUpdater. I also tried from floppy to no avail said the motherboard doesn't support it. All I have to say is thank god I got a retail one as it is still under the 3 year warranty but wth how many parts do I have to rma first the processor now the mb whats next my ram?

It would be really nice to get someone who has been in my shoes to tell me im an idiot and have something set wrong anmd all I have to do is this to fix it. I did post in the Asus forums. But. hopefully I can get some more info from you guys.

Edit: I am sorry for the double post but it is also a bump. I have tried everything suggested and have tried a bunch of other things I just cant find what the problem is.

[MainframeTM]

I even made sure to do the downgradable option in AsusUpdater. I also tried from floppy to no avail said the motherboard doesn't support it.

On my M3A mobo when reverting back to a previous bios I had to go under options & check bios downgradeable for it to revert back. Might wanna check that out.

[MDK22]

I already did that didnt work. It said the eeprom wasn't compatible.