If you had my system what would you upgrade?

[CDdude55]

What in my PC would you upgrade to. I would like some suggestions and what you think is a good opinion to pick. Another thing is that if its the CPU, it can only be 65nm. I only game and go on the internet on photoshop or benchmarks(besides FRAPS). And lets say the budget is $600. My PC is in my system specs tab. I also don't OC.

[hat]

I also don't OC.
I would fix this problem first :rockout:

[ktr]

I would get a 8800gts 512mb, you can get one for 170-180 after MIR on newegg.

[niko084]

I would fix this problem first :rockout:

Lol, well I would say that too...

But if you don't overclock get a processor and a video card.
E7200, E6750, E8400, something in there so you don't bottleneck your 8800GT real hard.

I would clock that chip to 3ghz or so and get an 8800GT, you would be amazed by what you pickup for speed.

[kyle2020]

either an E8400 or possibly a quad core - dont know what american prices are, then an 8800GT or 9600GT dependant on prices.

[erocker]

65nm only. E6850 would fit the bill.

[niko084]

either an E8400 or possibly a quad core - dont know what american prices are, then an 8800GT or 9600GT dependant on prices.

Quads are a waste for gaming and general use, and will be for some time yet.

[kyle2020]

65nm only. E6850 would fit the bill.

oh yeah forgot that :slap:

[btarunr]

An E8400. That EVGA board supports Wolfdale with a BIOS update. Besides, E8400 and E6850 are priced nearly the same in some places.

[kyle2020]

Quads are a waste for gaming and general use, and will be for some time yet.

cant be bad to future proof though? :ohwell:

[erocker]

In that case E8400 or E8500 is your best bet.:)

[btarunr]

I'd try to squeeze in two 8800 GS cards for SLI.

Ahem, I'm 'ideating' as IBM puts it :o

[niko084]

cant be bad to future proof though? :ohwell:

Erocker is right in that case an e8400/e8500 is still a better bet...

By the time games are taking full advantage of Quads and the performance differences are worth it, Quads will be the normal processor, and Octo's or more will be the top thing.

Also that part being the midline will blow away the top line of today.
Look at an e6300 vs a P4 EE 3.4, absolutely no comparrison.
Same thing will happen again in a few years, or sooner.

[kyle2020]

Erocker is right in that case an e8400/e8500 is still a better bet...

By the time games are taking full advantage of Quads and the performance differences are worth it, Quads will be the normal processor, and Octo's or more will be the top thing.

Also that part being the midline will blow away the top line of today.
Look at an e6300 vs a P4 EE 3.4, absolutely no comparrison.
Same thing will happen again in a few years, or sooner.

point taken - an E8400 looks the best option then :o

[philbrown23]

no no no! I'd upgrade the WHOLE thing!

[kyle2020]

no no no! I'd upgrade the WHOLE thing!

remember he only has $600 to spend. i think the translates roughly to around £300.

[spearman914]

You don't OC then buy an E7200 OEM with the stock cooler and ur fine. And you game so get a 8800 GT or 8800 GTS 512 G92.

[Exceededgoku]

EVERYTHING! Lol I'd probably start with the graphics card, go with something like a HD3870 or an 8800GT or something equivalent. I wouldn't bother upgrading the processor unless you wanted quad core because you don't overclock it's basically pointless.

[spearman914]

EVERYTHING! Lol I'd probably start with the graphics card, go with something like a HD3870 or an 8800GT or something equivalent. I wouldn't bother upgrading the processor unless you wanted quad core because you don't overclock it's basically pointless.

It would be a waste to get a 8800 gt or 3870 with out upgrading CPU cuz since he doesn't overclock this will make it a bottlenecked system. :slap:

[niko084]

EVERYTHING! Lol I'd probably start with the graphics card, go with something like a HD3870 or an 8800GT or something equivalent. I wouldn't bother upgrading the processor unless you wanted quad core because you don't overclock it's basically pointless.

When is the last time you tried to play a high end game with a high end graphics card on a e4*** chip?

I'll tell ya something, it doesn't go over very well..

[kyle2020]

It would be a waste to get a 8800 gt or 3870 with out upgrading CPU cuz since he doesn't overclock this will make it a bottlenecked system. :slap:

and like stated, hes only surfing the net and gaming, so a mid - high level dual core would be spot on.

[FatForester]

Yea, for 600 bucks you can do a complete overhaul. Grab a DVD-RW drive, they're so cheap there's no reason not to have one. 8800GTS 512 and an e8400 would give you a huge performance boost, but if for some reason the evga 680 doesn't work with the Wolfdale, sell it and grab a P35. Then to finish out get a Samsung F1 750GB at zipzoomfly for $110 bucks.

[spearman914]

Yea, for 600 bucks you can do a complete overhaul. Grab a DVD-RW drive, they're so cheap there's no reason not to have one. 8800GTS 512 and an e8400 would give you a huge performance boost, but if for some reason the evga 680 doesn't work with the Wolfdale, sell it and grab a P35. Then to finish out get a Samsung F1 750GB at zipzoomfly for $110 bucks.

680i do work with E8400/45nm chips. It just needs a newer bios update to be compatible. I still suggest getting a E7200. Price beats all dual cores and overclocking.

[CDdude55]

If i upgrade my CPU i will have to take the mobo out. Should i put it on a wooden table? if so, can it be any kind of wood?. But then again there is nothing underneath the mobo to comfort it. Also do you guys think i should upgrade both at the same time? I am thinking about getting a E6850 and maybe a 9600 GT.

[rick22]

Your motherboard.....and your video card.....for the board i would go DFI and for the card just upgrade to the 8800gt or a 3870.....good luck ..

[FatForester]

680i do work with E8400/45nm chips. It just needs a newer bios update to be compatible. I still suggest getting a E7200. Price beats all dual cores and overclocking.

Yea, I was saying if it doesn't for some reason. An e7200 is great, but since he isn't overclocking the e8400 would be better.

[spearman914]

If you are changing mobo get a nice X38 or P35 NM board. Stick with DFI, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte brands. 8800 GT and E7200. Oo forgot about price dunno if u have enough.

[Black Panther]

When is the last time you tried to play a high end game with a high end graphics card on a e4*** chip?

I'll tell ya something, it doesn't go over very well..

Well, it isn't that bad if you overclock the e4*** to 3.0Ghz or 3.2Ghz...:p

[spearman914]

Well, it isn't that bad if you overclock the e4*** to 3.0Ghz or 3.2Ghz...:p

That may be good according to you but he doesn't overclock. :shadedshu :shadedshu

[niko084]

That may be good according to you but he doesn't overclock. :shadedshu :shadedshu

And thats my point in the needing a processor upgrade.

[oli_ramsay]

I would OC that proc and get an 8800GT!!!

That would give you a MAJOR boost!

[kyle2020]

basically he will be needing a 65nm processor thats quite nimble on STOCK. STOCK! he doesnt overclock.

[spearman914]

basically he will be needing a 65nm processor thats quite nimble on STOCK. STOCK! he doesnt overclock.

STOCK is fine. But for gaming the temps would shoot up a bit.

[kyle2020]

true, but slap a xigmatek on it or an AC FP and thats that area covered?

[CDdude55]

basically he will be needing a 65nm processor thats quite nimble on STOCK. STOCK! he doesnt overclock.

Ya, thats why i was thinking a E6850 on stock with my AC Freezer 7 Pro cooling it. BTW i like my Mobo and don't see any reason to upgrade it.

[CDdude55]

BTW:If i upgrade my CPU i will have to take the mobo out. Should i put it on a wooden table? if so, can it be any kind of wood?. But then again there is nothing underneath the mobo to comfort it. Also do you guys think i should upgrade both at the same time? I am thinking about getting a E6850 and maybe a 9600 GT.

[niko084]

Ya, thats why i was thinking a E6850 on stock with my AC Freezer 7 Pro cooling it. BTW i like my Mobo and don't see any reason to upgrade it.

That would work fine. Your mainboard is also fine for anything but heavy overclocking, in which case I would also reccomend a new mainboard, but being you don't your fine with it.

An e6850 or e8400 either one with your cooler and an 8800GT/9600GT/8800GTS 512mb would be a pretty nice setup for you and your needs.

[hat]

basically he will be needing a 65nm processor thats quite nimble on STOCK. STOCK! he doesnt overclock.

we're trying to convince him to overclock.
Look dude, you can either save money by not buying a new processor and just overclock, or you can get more performance by getting a kickass processor and overclock it, or you can just not overclock and lose both ways. >_>

[cdawall]

he should jut rebuild from the ground up my build is totaling @ $200 right now with new mobo/cpu/VGA/ram/add-on PSU he can reuse everything else

[pentastar111]

I don't OC either, I've dabbled then reverted to stock clocks..oh-well...Anyway here's my 2 cents http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814130357
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
or even this dual core http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028
I don't care what anybody say's the "quads" are noticably faster...This Q6600 is a very nice proc...Great performance for the buck ratio...The vid card also looks pretty damn good...EVGA's a great co. And your still under 500. You could just keep your current proc because, unless you are using a single core or some proc that's less than 2 gig most dual core's and most all the quads won't bottleneck that dramatically at res's below 1920 X1200... bottlenecking (if you want to call it that)occurs mostly in the very high res's 2560 X 1600 and above..at that res everything evens out among the duals and quads....even Skulltrail...and that's using 2 cpu's..doesn't really show an advantage as far as FPS..at least that's my understanding after reading this http://www.guru3d.com/article/cpu-scaling-in-games-with-quad-core-processors/9 Personally I would get two of the above mentioned cards SLI'em and enjoy!

[kyle2020]

we're trying to convince him to overclock.
Look dude, you can either save money by not buying a new processor and just overclock, or you can get more performance by getting a kickass processor and overclock it, or you can just not overclock and lose both ways. >_>

agreed, but im just going by what hes specified he wants. Id personally advise him to get an E8400, overclock it 'till it screams and drop an 8800GT into it.

[AsRock]

I'd wait till the next ATI \ NVidia cards are out and get a v card.

we're trying to convince him to overclock.
Look dude, you can either save money by not buying a new processor and just overclock, or you can get more performance by getting a kickass processor and overclock it, or you can just not overclock and lose both ways. >_>


Funny only thing i have noticed when my CPU is overclocked is benchmarks are better. Game wise it been pointless.

[pentastar111]

I'd wait till the next ATI \ NVidia cards are out and get a v card.




Funny only thing i have noticed when my CPU is overclocked is benchmarks are better. Game wish it been pointless.
Yep

[jonmcc33]

What in my PC would you upgrade to. I would like some suggestions and what you think is a good opinion to pick. Another thing is that if its the CPU, it can only be 65nm. I only game and go on the internet on photoshop or benchmarks(besides FRAPS). And lets say the budget is $600. My PC is in my system specs tab. I also don't OC.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
GeForce 8800GTS 512MB (G92)
Windows Vista Business x64 OEM

Comes out to $570 @ NewEgg

[ShadowFold]

I respect that you dont OC so im gonna recommend these. You said 600$ right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814260066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136043
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

And if you dont want to upgrade your board get a E6850 like others have said.

[hv43082]

Either vid card or monitor. Everything else is fine.

[CDdude55]

If i upgrade my CPU i will have to take the mobo out. Should i put it on a wooden table? if so, can it be any kind of wood?. But then again there is nothing underneath the mobo to comfort it. Also do you guys think i should upgrade both at the same time? I am thinking about getting a E6850 and maybe a 9600 GT.

[ShadowFold]

just it on the mobo box. thats what I do.

[farlex85]

I would upgrade the monitor, in a couple of months the video card (once the new ones drop their prices a bit), and hold off on the mb + proc upgrade till nahalem (or an equally performing amd if there is one at the time). Maybe a better heatsink to oc the hell out of the e4400.

[CDdude55]

Thanks guys

[CDdude55]

just it on the mobo box. thats what I do.

I don't have the mobo box anymore.:(

[ShadowFold]

I don't have the mobo box anymore.:(

Any hardware box is fine.

[CDdude55]

Basically anything cardboard?

[DonInKansas]

Yeah. Just don't lay it on the carpet.:) I use my wooden table to no ill effects.

[CDdude55]

Yeah. Just don't lay it on the carpet.:) I use my wooden table to no ill effects.

You don't have anything supporting the motherboard at the bottom?

[pentastar111]

You don't have anything supporting the motherboard at the bottom? Nope..your not forging a sword on it...just changing the cpu.:p Just remember to ground yourself...

[hat]

I put my motherboard on the carpet :p I just didn't drag it around