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BigD6997
08-09-2006, 10:26 AM
Well I know that. I actually had an arctic silencer 5 on my x800xl for a little while before it magically died on me.

What I'm saying is, as a stock cooler for that card, it does the trick at stock settings and keeps it cooler than the crap fan they put on the regular GTOs, BUT, once you start messing with voltage then your voltage regulator temperatures start to go up, and your core temperature goes up, which inevitably means your whole board's temperature will go up.

The IceQ fan does not cool the voltage regulators. In fact, if anything, the regular GTO VGA coolers will cool off the voltage regulators BETTER than the IceQ fan since the normal GTO fan exhausts on to the regulators. The exhaust might be warm air, but warm air is better than no air.
true... but onthe iceq air is getting pulled over the regulators so it still cools it:toast:

andrey_sebastian
08-09-2006, 10:53 AM
I'm waiting to put my money in
Please , don't pry in with leisure replies


HIS X1800GTO Platinum model can be unlocked to 16 pipelines?
Is there any connection between the only 5 mosfets instead of 6
(blackboxes) ?

HIS ATI Radeon X1800GTO Platinum 256MB DDR3 256-bit:
X1800GTO Platinum 256MB GDDR3 (256 bit),Dual DVI, VIVO, Fan Cooler HIS

Tatty_One
08-09-2006, 11:11 AM
While fiddling around trying to make some custom cooling for my card i saw that i've got samsung 1.2ns mem, most people know this is rated to 800mhz, however, so far i've reached 756mhz @ 2.2v for mem, i havn't gone any higher for fear of cooking them.

What i'd like to know is what are most of u guys with Gto's running memory voltage at?
I've attached a chart from samsung for my memory and it states absolute max volts of 2.5. Does anyone think this is ok to do or will it lead to a very premature death?

Another chart i've attached is to do with the CAS latency of the mem. At default my cas latency is 9 which as you can see equates to an allowable frequency of 600mhz, so if i raise it to 10-11 which should allow 800mhz reachable will this have a big impact on performance?

Obviously i'd rather change mem timings over fear of cooking the little things to death, but what do u guys think?

Although I don't have the GTO may I suggest something with your memory overclock efforts, try reducing the volts to the memory to slightly BELOW stock. 1.2ns memory can become very volatile and get stability issues on higher volts when pushed to it's MHz limits, I actually get more out of mine (880) by underclocking it slightly from stock although I have only just got my card yesterday but I am sure I will get beyond 900.

BooStFeD
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Although I don't have the GTO may I suggest something with your memory overclock efforts, try reducing the volts to the memory to slightly BELOW stock. 1.2ns memory can become very volatile and get stability issues on higher volts when pushed to it's MHz limits, I actually get more out of mine (880) by underclocking it slightly from stock although I have only just got my card yesterday but I am sure I will get beyond 900.

What card do you currently get 880 from undervolting the mem? Is it 1.2ns memory? It takes my HIS1800GTO IceQ3 with 1.2ns, 2.3v on the mem to reach 801.

spyke
08-09-2006, 04:59 PM
Hello boys, , exists one modification in order to increase the volt of the gpu via haedware for the x1800xl?
thanks

up!!!

a salute from Italy :toast:

Tatty_One
08-09-2006, 07:33 PM
What card do you currently get 880 from undervolting the mem? Is it 1.2ns memory? It takes my HIS1800GTO IceQ3 with 1.2ns, 2.3v on the mem to reach 801.

It is in my specs....the 1800xt, I undervolt from 2.097V to 1.995. That was just the first day though, only got it yesterday so have lots of room to play. I will double check but I am sure it's 1.2NS tho I may be wrong, am going to go googling now, it's pretty common knowledge as in I have read loads of reviews that say that the xt and xl's do better with undervoltage than overvoltage.

Everything I have just googled says 1.2ns for the 1800xt so I spose it must be! The first guide I read before my card arrived mentioned the underclocking issue, the link is below...have a look:

http://forums.uk-oc.co.uk/showthread.php?p=144

ace80
08-09-2006, 09:16 PM
Although I don't have the GTO may I suggest something with your memory overclock efforts, try reducing the volts to the memory to slightly BELOW stock. 1.2ns memory can become very volatile and get stability issues on higher volts when pushed to it's MHz limits
I just tried this and it doesn't work unfortunatly, default mem volts are 1.889 so i tried 1.875 and it would just about reach 540mhz!!

As BooStFed says it also take me 2.335v to hit 801 and even then things aren't always stable

I've compared a few XT bioses to the HIS GTO and the GTO's have much tighter timings on the mem, so i'm guessing if i change them to XT timings i should get a better overclock, but will it actually improve performance because of the looser timings.

One last question, has anybody tried or heard of anyone flashing a XT bios to a GTO, or if it works at all?

Tatty_One
08-09-2006, 10:26 PM
I just tried this and it doesn't work unfortunatly, default mem volts are 1.889 so i tried 1.875 and it would just about reach 540mhz!!

As BooStFed says it also take me 2.335v to hit 801 and even then things aren't always stable

I've compared a few XT bioses to the HIS GTO and the GTO's have much tighter timings on the mem, so i'm guessing if i change them to XT timings i should get a better overclock, but will it actually improve performance because of the looser timings.

One last question, has anybody tried or heard of anyone flashing a XT bios to a GTO, or if it works at all?

Many seem to flash to 1800xl but none seem to flash to XT, I think it's a voltage issue which may explain why the memory underclock wont work on the GTO. The GTO and XL are very similar albeit the xl has 4 more pipes, some of those who have successfully flashed can go on to overclock quite well but some cant get past 600/600 with the xl BIOS.

BooStFeD
08-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Many seem to flash to 1800xl but none seem to flash to XT, I think it's a voltage issue which may explain why the memory underclock wont work on the GTO. The GTO and XL are very similar albeit the xl has 4 more pipes, some of those who have successfully flashed can go on to overclock quite well but some cant get past 600/600 with the xl BIOS.

Undervolting the memory does not work for me aswell :( . I tried 1.996 as you stated and could not do more than 702. To reach 801 overvolting is the only way. Using 2.335 on the memory and 1.450 on the core has been 100% stable for me. Played hours of FEAR with out problems and have done a 20min. artifact scan without hick-ups ;) . I think the memory timings is whats causing this. I have seen people on xtremesystems with GTO's reach 900 on the mem using OVERCLOCKER which does losen mem timings. I have seen comparisons that show a drop in 3DMark scores when using OVERCLOCKER compared to ATI Tool. I think the different timings take away from performance :banghead: .

Tatty_One
08-10-2006, 12:34 AM
yeah I have not even tried lots of volts yet on the core, have just upped it to 1.4V so have miles to go yet for her, am hoping to get well over 750 out of the core and I have read where memory can reach 950!....wtf only stopped at 880 because it was day one with card, am going to play a bit more at the weekend, my aim is to get over 10500 on 3D Mark 2005 which beats my 7900GTand do you know the really good thing?.....I paid £10 more ($18US) for this than I would have paid for a decent GTO!

jjnissanpatfan
08-10-2006, 01:41 AM
With my system cpu at 2.8 gpu@750\920 10,900 in 3Dmark 05!!With my friends 3700+@2.9 ive got 11,138:rockout:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060809/11138957.jpg[/IMG]

BigD6997
08-10-2006, 07:01 AM
damn... GJ!!

Tatty_One
08-10-2006, 12:23 PM
Hmmmmm.....damn gotta change my targets now to 11000+!!!! I m sure I can get a stable 2.9-3Gig outta this processor, I think I will increase volts to 1.5 at the weekend and see what I can get outta the GPU core.

I am not too bothered about increasing memory speed, I have read many articles that suggest that with the cards memory once you get beyond 850 there is actually little or no visible gain, I benched at 860 and 880 and there was 4 3DMark 2005 points difference and when you get to a certain point then the performance actually reduces, it's about finding that perfect point I think.

ace80
08-10-2006, 12:50 PM
just to let u guys know, i tried flashing with my origonal bios but with XT mem timings modified through RaBit, as a result i had major screen corruption and couldn't tell what i was doing!!:cry: , luckily i have a spair pci card and my modded bios on a backup cd(always handy to have), crossed my fingers and prayed, everything is back to normal again. :rockout:

Tatty_One
08-10-2006, 01:24 PM
Just done a bit more digging on the memory voltage/speed that we were discussing a couple of posts ago. It seems that when overclcoking memory in ATI tool it does not effect timings but if doing it within AI overdrive for example it does? not sure how. Anyways to update on volts for some to try (but in ATI tool) if you increase your MVDCC as most of you have done in anycase but slightly LOWER your VDDQ that should provide some overclocking benefits. There is no suggestion on just how much to lower so take it fairly easy and sensible but give that a try, it may well make some difference.

The last semi interesting thing is that those with higher voltage/bigger clocks to the core should be getting higher memory clocks because apparantly the core volts/speed can directly affect the memory performance.

Grateful if you could let me know how you get on, I stress these so called tips are sposed to be for the 1800xt but if both cards have the 1.2ns memory then it should equally apply to the GTO.

BooStFeD
08-10-2006, 06:38 PM
Just done a bit more digging on the memory voltage/speed that we were discussing a couple of posts ago. It seems that when overclcoking memory in ATI tool it does not effect timings but if doing it within AI overdrive for example it does? not sure how. Anyways to update on volts for some to try (but in ATI tool) if you increase your MVDCC as most of you have done in anycase but slightly LOWER your VDDQ that should provide some overclocking benefits. There is no suggestion on just how much to lower so take it fairly easy and sensible but give that a try, it may well make some difference.

The last semi interesting thing is that those with higher voltage/giger clocks to the core should be getting higher mamory clocks because apparantly the core volts/speed can directly affect the memory performance.

Grateful if you could let me know how you get on, I stress these so called tips are sposed to be for the 1800xt but if both cards have the 1.2ns memory then it should equally apply to the GTO.

Will give this a try later today when i finish with class ;) .

chron
08-10-2006, 07:07 PM
I'm waiting to put my money in
Please , don't pry in with leisure replies


HIS X1800GTO Platinum model can be unlocked to 16 pipelines?
Is there any connection between the only 5 mosfets instead of 6
(blackboxes) ?

HIS ATI Radeon X1800GTO Platinum 256MB DDR3 256-bit:
X1800GTO Platinum 256MB GDDR3 (256 bit),Dual DVI, VIVO, Fan Cooler HIS
After reading up on the sapphire X1800GTO2 at newegg, I'd say THAT is the best bang for the buck rite now. 16 pipes, 512MB of memory, 6 mosfets...

Difference between 5 mosfets and 6 is this; 5 mosfets usualy wont give you power above 1.25V while the 6 mosfet cards (like mine) can go up to 1.45V

true... but onthe iceq air is getting pulled over the regulators so it still cools it:toast:

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't "suck" the heat off of them due to the fact that the fan is open ended only on the opposite side of the voltage regulators... From all the pictures I've looked at, this seems to be the case. Correct me if I'm wrong and pleast post pics

BooStFeD
08-11-2006, 12:49 AM
Just done a bit more digging on the memory voltage/speed that we were discussing a couple of posts ago. It seems that when overclcoking memory in ATI tool it does not effect timings but if doing it within AI overdrive for example it does? not sure how. Anyways to update on volts for some to try (but in ATI tool) if you increase your MVDCC as most of you have done in anycase but slightly LOWER your VDDQ that should provide some overclocking benefits. There is no suggestion on just how much to lower so take it fairly easy and sensible but give that a try, it may well make some difference.

The last semi interesting thing is that those with higher voltage/bigger clocks to the core should be getting higher memory clocks because apparantly the core volts/speed can directly affect the memory performance.

Grateful if you could let me know how you get on, I stress these so called tips are sposed to be for the 1800xt but if both cards have the 1.2ns memory then it should equally apply to the GTO.

Well tonight i have been playing with VDDQ and havnt gained a thing besides lower load temps. They droped a good amount. Atleast i got something beneficial :D . Even with the lower temps. i am unable to increase the memory without instability. I appreciate your help and info thanks :rockout:

Old
VGPU = 1.450
MVDDC= 2.335
VDDQ= 2.165
= 729/801 with 68c on the core

New
VGPU= 1.450
MVDDC=2.335
VDDQ=1.900
= 729/801 with 63c on the core

(Recorded temps. after a 10min. artifact scan)

Tatty_One
08-11-2006, 08:48 AM
JJNissanpatfan.....could you share with us your settings to acheive those clocks....voltage, what you are using ...ati tool etc etc with what cooling and temps please? Seems you have definatly found the "sweet spot" I am struggling at the moment with ATI tool, it gets very tempremental and locks in 3d view even tho I am overclocking without it on and then bringing it in to test settings...no artifacts just locks but then in benching with the 3D marks it's fine....might try overclocker for the revs.

jjnissanpatfan
08-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Ok im using ati tool 0.25 beta14 only.I have all ati services disabled on start up i use ati catalyst version 6.5. Now i've done allot of testing here and the only way i can overclock after
using ati tool past 700gpu is NOT to use the show 3D view if i do i locks up!! So after i turn up the voltage put the memmory voltage down, fan at 100% apply then run bechmarks.I just tested put my settings in put 750gpu then went to show 3d view locked up lost my whole first post:( So my temps with stock cooling after i flashed with no fan control 58idle 88-90underload
now with the a/c cooler no fan control 46idle 68-70 underload.Now with the fan 100% 40idle-60-64underload.Like i said before after i set it this high i dont use the 3d view.

VGPU-1.525
MVDDC- 1.996
MVDDQ- 1.996
Fan@ 100%
= 750/900
I can go a little higher on both but found this is the sweet spot!!Hope this helps:D

Also i have the 512 version i had the 256 one and i could not overclock this high.And i while ago i made a post about me being a noob messin with fan control somehow set to 0% played hl2 noticed glitching windowed out to my horror 116C wow powered off then back on quickest way to get the fan on!!! And its still runnin great.

Tatty_One
08-11-2006, 10:26 PM
Thats great thanks, I only use ATI tool but only got the card this week so am just starting to play. I have found exactly the same with the 3d view so will stay well away from it, I spose if set to high the screen will start to corrupt in 3d mark 2005 so abort....lowre and crack on.

I breifly tried her on 1.525V, slightly different memory settings and ran her at 735/900 and my temps on my stock never went above about 83C but I was warned never to go above 80 for any length of time. I actually have a very good Zalman fatality lying around but having felt how much hot air is exhausted outta the back with the stock cooler I am thinking my ambient temps are gonna get roastin with the zalman even if my GPU is running 10C cooler...what U think?

Edit: I however do not go anywhere near CCC and dont have it installed, I have some modded drivers that come without it and all other ATI processes I too have disabled.

jjnissanpatfan
08-11-2006, 11:22 PM
I have a 120mn fan blowing directly on the card its tied in the front brive bay's on the bottom there's about 1in from the pwer connecter on the video card to the fan.Works great i have 3 other fans one top two side three back my temps didnt go up.Also i have a slot cooler under video card so it does the same as the stock one with the 120 fan blowing the hot air out!!Same temps!

Tatty_One
08-12-2006, 12:03 AM
I have a 120mn fan blowing directly on the card its tied in the front brive bay's on the bottom there's about 1in from the pwer connecter on the video card to the fan.Works great i have 3 other fans one top two side three back my temps didnt go up.Also i have a slot cooler under video card so it does the same as the stock one with the 120 fan blowing the hot air out!!Same temps!

Thanks I might give the zalman a try then, I have a slot extractor fan I could place right next to the zalman fan and a couple of decent spare fans to blow.

I am away on holiday for a week now but I will let you know how I get on with the clocks when I get back, thanx for the help.

chron
08-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Thanks I might give the zalman a try then, I have a slot extractor fan I could place right next to the zalman fan and a couple of decent spare fans to blow.

I am away on holiday for a week now but I will let you know how I get on with the clocks when I get back, thanx for the help.

Look into the VF1-Plus. Brought my temperatures WAY down. At 1.45V 700/700 I get load and idle temperatures that are lower than the stock cooler at stock settings...

Apocalypsee
08-13-2006, 06:35 AM
Anyone with X1800GTO? My GTO 2ns memory achieve 774MHz with 2.43V MVDDC and 2.001V MVDDQ but the core stuck at 645MHz 1.275V

sefu
08-14-2006, 01:03 PM
After mounting an Arctic Cooling Accelero X2 cooler on my Sapphire x1800 gto, 12 pipes only, y was abble to overclock at 700/700 with maxim temps of 70 c, full stable gaming, this is my scores with cpu intel 930 default, ock only on vga.

solideliquid
08-15-2006, 02:25 AM
I'm having a problem with my X1800XT, please help.

When I OC my X1800XT with ATI tool I get almost no improved performance than when I play something and only use the CCC @ 625/750 (stock).

I don't get it, and when I run 3dMark06 I get a 200 point difference. What gives? What does 200 points get you in real time game playing anyway?

The games I'm currently playing are: MS Flight Sim X demo, Oblivion, CS:S, Dark Messiah Demo, and Call of Jaurez Demo. All pretty graphics heavy games, and all good.

When I OC my card with ATI tool here are the settings: 685/792, 1.395V, 2.162V, and 2.135V
am I doing something wrong please help.

Thanks in advance!

chron
08-15-2006, 06:28 PM
yea its your processor bottleneckin the system. I have a pentiium 4 at 3 ghz that does the same thing. You will notice an improvement in certain things but not all round. For instance, in oblivion, I never noticed my framrate go UP but i found that I could turn on shadows after i overclocked from 500/500 to 700/700, and not loose fps as much. So in other words, i guess it raises your average lowest fps.

ace80
08-16-2006, 03:55 PM
Thanks to Tatty One for suggesting to lower MVDDQ a few posts ago :toast: , as BooStFeD stated i also saw a 4-5°C drop in temps too :)

I've been playing around with the voltages for some time now and have reached a conclusion for me, I need a new PSU. It just doesn't cut it when overclocking to the max. Its rated to 33 amps which just isn't enough.

When finding max core at 1.5v i can hit 740mhz stable at 63° - drawing 32 amps
When finding max mem at 2.370v & 1.851v i can hit 810mhz stable - drawing 28 amps

Thing is when i combine them i'm stable for about 10 secs then comp freezes and i noticed the thing is drawing about 35-40 amps. Monitoring the 12v supply through uguru it dropped to 11.50v.
So i've backed off to a stable 720/801 and this keeps me between 30-32 amps everything rock solid.
Do you all think its my PSU holding me back or that i've just hit my cards limit?
I'm hoping a new PSU will help me find this amazing cards potential :rockout:

edit, sorry mistype, i've backed off to 705/797

solideliquid
08-17-2006, 01:16 AM
Thanks to Tatty One for suggesting to lower MVDDQ a few posts ago :toast: , as BooStFeD stated i also saw a 4-5°C drop in temps too :)

I've been playing around with the voltages for some time now and have reached a conclusion for me, I need a new PSU. It just doesn't cut it when overclocking to the max. Its rated to 33 amps which just isn't enough.

When finding max core at 1.5v i can hit 740mhz stable at 63° - drawing 32 amps
When finding max mem at 2.370v & 1.851v i can hit 810mhz stable - drawing 28 amps

Thing is when i combine them i'm stable for about 10 secs then comp freezes and i noticed the thing is drawing about 35-40 amps. Monitoring the 12v supply through uguru it dropped to 11.50v.
So i've backed off to a stable 720/801 and this keeps me between 30-32 amps everything rock solid.
Do you all think its my PSU holding me back or that i've just hit my cards limit?
I'm hoping a new PSU will help me find this amazing cards potential :rockout:

edit, sorry mistype, i've backed off to 705/797


OK we are talking an X1800xt here right? I don't see much of an improvement in games with 685/792. Are you getting any improvement at 705/797?

ace80
08-17-2006, 01:01 PM
OK we are talking an X1800xt here right? I don't see much of an improvement in games with 685/792. Are you getting any improvement at 705/797?
No i have a His X1800 gto Iceq3 turbo, see system specs.

Default clocks of my card are 520/500, so i do see quite a notible difference, however there comes a point when the cpu will limit any improvement. e.g
When running proc @ default of 3.4 658/715 - 7727 pts 3DMark05
proc @ default of 3.4 705/756 - 7887 pts
not a great difference and not really noticable in gameplay;
however with proc @ 3.7 705/756 - 8361 pts (quite a difference and shows during gameplay, more consistant fps)
(Just a shame my mobo has a 10% cpu overclock lock :banghead: )

BooStFeD
08-20-2006, 02:04 AM
Thanks to Tatty One for suggesting to lower MVDDQ a few posts ago :toast: , as BooStFeD stated i also saw a 4-5°C drop in temps too :)

I've been playing around with the voltages for some time now and have reached a conclusion for me, I need a new PSU. It just doesn't cut it when overclocking to the max. Its rated to 33 amps which just isn't enough.

When finding max core at 1.5v i can hit 740mhz stable at 63° - drawing 32 amps
When finding max mem at 2.370v & 1.851v i can hit 810mhz stable - drawing 28 amps

Thing is when i combine them i'm stable for about 10 secs then comp freezes and i noticed the thing is drawing about 35-40 amps. Monitoring the 12v supply through uguru it dropped to 11.50v.
So i've backed off to a stable 720/801 and this keeps me between 30-32 amps everything rock solid.
Do you all think its my PSU holding me back or that i've just hit my cards limit?
I'm hoping a new PSU will help me find this amazing cards potential :rockout:

edit, sorry mistype, i've backed off to 705/797

Great to see that you are getting lower load temps. with reduced MVDDQ too :rockout: . I was shocked to see them drop soo much :D .

I do think that your PSU is holding you back some. Im running a OCZ GameXStream 700w now, but before i was using some cheapo 400w. With the 400w i was unable to push past 720/751. My 12v would fall to 11.20 when the profile was loaded and even more when in 3D aps. Anything past those clocks she would artifact and lockup in ATI Tool. With the OCZ 700w i havnt seen it drop below 12.050v with 1.50v gpu @ 751/801. OCZ 700w is a beast :respect: (and im running 7 case fans).

On a fresh start-up and default clocks i have seen the 12v reach 12.400v.

Tatty_One
08-20-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi guys, am back from hols! nice to see some lower temps! am not sure how low you can take the voltage before it actually effects the memory speed, I might have a little play to find out.

I did some tweaks last night, still on stock cooling, have not benchmarked yet but got mine to 740 core and 910 memory so getting there slowly. I cannot get my CPU overclock stable beyond 2.8Gig so may struggle to hit that 11000 3D Mark 2005 but my memory may be my limiting factor, reckon as it stands 10500 is the best I will acheive, I am getting into that nervous territory on the graphics overclocks now as I am putting 1.5V thru her and although there is a bit to go have been warned against going above 1.5V. Am not sure if my Zalman Fatality will do much better than the stock cooling as it does not have an extractor so it's going to be throwing the hot air (and I have felt just how hot that air is!) around the inside of my case, may be OK for winter.

Have just ordered some PC4000 Ram that may allow me to get a litle more out of the CPU (will have no need to use a divider on memory or lower multiplier on CPU) so I will keep you posted on how I get on, especially with the "how low can you go voltage wise on MVDDQ"

Edit: Not sure it is your PSU holding you back, it might be but with my dual rail 500W Antec with the Graphics overclock I mentioned and the CPU at the overclock in my specs neither of my 12V or 5V rails are dropping below 12 or 5 so unless you have a poor quality PSU I am not so sure.

KennyT772
09-04-2006, 04:49 PM
730/920 max stock cooler 100% 70c core 68c vreg 55c evn. vcore 1.425 mvddc 2.20 mvddq 2.18.

running on a 12+18a tt420w psu. draw is 32.7a:eek: 12+ is 11.98v

BooStFeD
09-04-2006, 05:20 PM
730/920 max stock cooler 100% 70c core 68c vreg 55c evn. vcore 1.425 mvddc 2.20 mvddq 2.18.

running on a 12+18a tt420w psu. draw is 32.7a:eek: 12+ is 11.98v

What card is this? 730/920mem is killer :rockout: . Are these clocks set with ATITool or OverClocker?

wizard23
09-04-2006, 07:49 PM
any good moded bios for x1800xt 512? stoch cooling.

KennyT772
09-04-2006, 08:39 PM
it is a sapphire 1800xt 256mb. i havnt removed the cooler but i can bet its running 1.1ns memory. im using atitoolb14 for clock setting fan control and temp monitoring. i havnt benched it yet as im on a new install of xp.

Tatty_One
09-04-2006, 08:52 PM
Have not tried to go above me specs speeds yet, just stopped it there as temps were getting a bit high on stock cooling, got the accelero coming this week so might push a bit more, am looking at getting 750 on the core, not too bothered about the memory as a review I read said once you go past 900 you actually start going backwards, not sure what memory it was tho.

chron
09-05-2006, 08:45 PM
I've pushed the gpu to 110C before... in fact, i think it wouldn't have complained until it boiled itself through the PCB! I think 120C is max...

The major thing to keep an eye on is your voltage regulators. Anything above 70 is kind of dangerous to the card.

Tatty_One
09-05-2006, 08:48 PM
I've pushed the gpu to 110C before... in fact, i think it wouldn't have complained until it boiled itself through the PCB! I think 120C is max...

The major thing to keep an eye on is your voltage regulators. Anything above 70 is kind of dangerous to the card.


Thanks I will bear that in mind. Would it not just crash before it fried tho on the voltage regulators?

yogurt_21
09-10-2006, 08:06 AM
yeah you'd probably lose display at 110C after a few minutes, if not from the card frying, then from the surrounding components. lol

I've never had mine above 70C and that was on stock cooling with my water it never goes above 50C fully oced (mem actually a bit lower 42C max)

the vreg is annoying, I think i'll have to mod my own cooler for it, it hits 60C when gaming at full gpu volts. needless to say causing an unnessesary heatsource in my comp when everything else usually stays around 30C or less. lol

but 730/920 is quite impressive for a 256mb card. shoot mine maxes out at 785/950 and thats a 512mb one.

Tatty_One
09-10-2006, 11:23 AM
yeah you'd probably lose display at 110C after a few minutes, if not from the card frying, then from the surrounding components. lol

I've never had mine above 70C and that was on stock cooling with my water it never goes above 50C fully oced (mem actually a bit lower 42C max)

the vreg is annoying, I think i'll have to mod my own cooler for it, it hits 60C when gaming at full gpu volts. needless to say causing an unnessesary heatsource in my comp when everything else usually stays around 30C or less. lol

but 730/920 is quite impressive for a 256mb card. shoot mine maxes out at 785/950 and thats a 512mb one.

What kind of 3D Mark 2005 scores you getting with the card and your Sandy, changing topic slightly, you seem to have high volts for the sandy at 2.9Gig, mine went to 3.2 (3.198 to be precise)on 1.55V but had some temp issues so have her at 3Gig on 1.5V prime stable for 10 hours but have not run 3D 2005 as yet as I am playing some more first, only got the Sandy Thursday.

chron
09-10-2006, 05:14 PM
wow lol 1.65v to a cpu seems so high to me now that i have a core 2 duo... 1.325 gives me 3.2GHz 24/7 prime stable... Unfortunately my ram is bad so instead of running at DDR2-800 I have to keep it arround DDR2-600-700... RMAing it monday, hopefully i'll get some sticks that work at their rated speed.

tommyboy71
09-14-2006, 10:57 PM
I was wondering if anybody here could help me.
I have an x1800gto2, flashed it to an x1800xtpe but couldn't get the drivers to install. Then I learned about the different bios' (102 and 103),so I flashed it to xt 102 bios and now it is working. I maxed out overdive to 689/792, but I'm only getting a score of 7805 in 3dmark05:wtf: . Does this seem right to anyone?
oh btw I'm running cat 6.8 and my computer is an nforce4-a939, atholon64 1.8 3000+,1 gig memory.

cisco kidd
09-15-2006, 02:41 AM
I was wondering if anybody here could help me.
I have an x1800gto2, flashed it to an x1800xtpe but couldn't get the drivers to install. Then I learned about the different bios' (102 and 103),so I flashed it to xt 102 bios and now it is working. I maxed out overdive to 689/792, but I'm only getting a score of 7805 in 3dmark05:wtf: . Does this seem right to anyone?
oh btw I'm running cat 6.8 and my computer is an nforce4-a939, atholon64 1.8 3000+,1 gig memory.

you are better off to run the stock Sapphire X1800XT 512 bios over the PE bios, the timings are too tight on the PE bios and your card will require higher voltage and it will increase temps huge. With my X1800GT2 running at 610/1440 to test it on a E6300 all at default in 3D05 I scored 89xx I know that once I run the chip at 400x7 for 2.8 and max the cards fan out at 100% for benches at 640/1500 it should hit near 11K. I will post a link to the bios I have used

KennyT772
09-15-2006, 03:08 AM
i get right around 8000 tommy so thats about right.

my card is stable up to 760/940!! sapphire x1800xt 256mb

cisco kidd
09-15-2006, 08:03 AM
i get right around 8000 tommy so thats about right.

my card is stable up to 760/940!! sapphire x1800xt 256mb

I dunno about that I ran a true X1800XT 256 sapphire card and at stock speeds with an X2 3800 running 2.5 it was getting 10,3xx in 3D05 on a S939 system
. He should be scoring higher especially with a 512 card

JC316
09-15-2006, 08:32 AM
Damn, I have hit 7600 with 600/600 on a 12 pipe X1800GTO. Seems like you should be scoring higher.

Tatty_One
09-15-2006, 08:53 AM
Cisco, you will get to a certain point with your CPU speed that will make no difference to your 2005 score, bottom line is that unless you can get 750 core or more and 900+ on memory you will not reach that 11000 score, once the CPU stops being a bottleneck then I am afraid its ALL down to the card, for example, my score at 3Gig on my 4000+ is only 7 3D 2005 points less than at 3.2Gig.

There are a couple in here that have hot 11000 with the xt and the one is running a 4000+ at 2.9Gig but has got his core to 770 and memory to 950 on a 512MB xt.

Edit:, I WILL be one of those hitting 11000 (hopefully) by the end of the weekend, just got my new mobo, PSU and Gfx cooler so will for the first time go above 740/900 (too hot b4)

cisco kidd
09-15-2006, 09:18 PM
Cisco, you will get to a certain point with your CPU speed that will make no difference to your 2005 score, bottom line is that unless you can get 750 core or more and 900+ on memory you will not reach that 11000 score, once the CPU stops being a bottleneck then I am afraid its ALL down to the card, for example, my score at 3Gig on my 4000+ is only 7 3D 2005 points less than at 3.2Gig.

There are a couple in here that have hot 11000 with the xt and the one is running a 4000+ at 2.9Gig but has got his core to 770 and memory to 950 on a 512MB xt.

Edit:, I WILL be one of those hitting 11000 (hopefully) by the end of the weekend, just got my new mobo, PSU and Gfx cooler so will for the first time go above 740/900 (too hot b4)

I agree and disagree, I was pretty much at 10400 with a stock Xt1800XT 256 version running on S939 platform at 2.5. Architecture of the C2Duo chips will give the extra points needed to break 11K. At 610/1440 like I mentioned on a stock E6300 I am near 9K flat. If my stock 256 version was hitting just shy of 11K I know the 512 version running higher than 750 on the mem and near 700 on the core will easily do 11K. On oc.com there are many who have done 11K with an X1800XT. I have some fairly decent room to still overclock the card to score the extra points needed plus I am looking at another 1-1.4ghz to overclock the CPU by, those 2 factors combined will allow 11K

cisco kidd
09-17-2006, 07:54 AM
I agree and disagree, I was pretty much at 10400 with a stock Xt1800XT 256 version running on S939 platform at 2.5. Architecture of the C2Duo chips will give the extra points needed to break 11K. At 610/1440 like I mentioned on a stock E6300 I am near 9K flat. If my stock 256 version was hitting just shy of 11K I know the 512 version running higher than 750 on the mem and near 700 on the core will easily do 11K. On oc.com there are many who have done 11K with an X1800XT. I have some fairly decent room to still overclock the card to score the extra points needed plus I am looking at another 1-1.4ghz to overclock the CPU by, those 2 factors combined will allow 11K

** Update**
Well I have to say what I was thinking is not working out as planned. I am basically getting 10K with E6300at 2.8 and the card at 630/745. I am a bit surprised that my real X1800XT 256 version scored about 400 points more on a S939 system running 2.5-2.6. 11K will be a stretch and like you said TattyOne the mem has to be pushed closer to 850+ and the core at or over 700. I am gonna see where I max out and then provide some links to 3D05, but for now the card is working solid and I have played with voltages a bit and set some profiles in ATI tool for quick overclocking. What one has to do though with these X1800GTO2 512 cards flashed to X1800XT 512 is make sure you up your voltage to the card to 1.395 over the stock 1.2750 and also bump mem and gpu core to 2.102 each or 2.095 each. I also have been running the fan at 100% for benches and temps are pretty decent

KennyT772
09-17-2006, 07:58 AM
Damn, I have hit 7600 with 600/600 on a 12 pipe X1800GTO. Seems like you should be scoring higher.

well theres this thing, its called shit ram. its single channel and wont run 1 clk over 200 @3*3*3*8

Tatty_One
09-17-2006, 12:37 PM
The stock xt core voltage in 3D mode is higher than it would appear the stock on the GTO2 is and in actual fact you want to reduce the volts to MDDQ (I think it is) by a little, that reduces temps and aids stability on memory, I rest by my origional point some time ago, my xt cost the same as the GTO2 so why bother? I took mine out of the box, installed it and within 5 minutes had her at 740/920 on stock cooling with the full 16 pipes, if there is no price advantage in buying the lesser (IMHO) GTO2 why would anyone buy it? Now of course I can only speak for prices here in the UK and I gather xt prices are more in the US and we all know XT's are hard to come by now but not so hard in the UK it would appear.

Having said that I am a great fan of GTO/GTO2 cards that unlock and are real "bang for buck" but for me with the xt availability and pricing in the UK I do not at this time see the GTO2 being bang for buck, when all the xt's dry up.....most definatly tho.

cisco kidd
09-18-2006, 05:28 AM
The stock xt core voltage in 3D mode is higher than it would appear the stock on the GTO2 is and in actual fact you want to reduce the volts to MDDQ (I think it is) by a little, that reduces temps and aids stability on memory, I rest by my origional point some time ago, my xt cost the same as the GTO2 so why bother? I took mine out of the box, installed it and within 5 minutes had her at 740/920 on stock cooling with the full 16 pipes, if there is no price advantage in buying the lesser (IMHO) GTO2 why would anyone buy it? Now of course I can only speak for prices here in the UK and I gather xt prices are more in the US and we all know XT's are hard to come by now but not so hard in the UK it would appear.

Having said that I am a great fan of GTO/GTO2 cards that unlock and are real "bang for buck" but for me with the xt availability and pricing in the UK I do not at this time see the GTO2 being bang for buck, when all the xt's dry up.....most definatly tho.

But at 206US shipped for a Sapphire X1800GTO2 512 DDR3 that comes unlocked already with 16 pipes and only requires a bios flash how can you go wrong. here is a link with my 05 score at 630/747
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2218147

Tatty_One
09-18-2006, 08:45 AM
Ok, that was an old 3D Mark 2005 score with my old processor, once I get my new PSU (had to RMA this one) I will post again my new score, the run I did before PSU went bang (also got an accelro x2 now) was at 755/930 @ 3.1Gig on the Athlon 4000+ and I got 10,905, I will do another run as I am determined to hit 11000!, nice score for you tho with that slow core and memory LOL!!!!

JC316
09-18-2006, 09:07 AM
well theres this thing, its called shit ram. its single channel and wont run 1 clk over 200 @3*3*3*8

I am running single channel 204MHZ 2.5-3-3-8. It's supposed to run at 3-3-3-8, but since I OC, it's lowered.

cisco kidd
09-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Ok, that was an old 3D Mark 2005 score with my old processor, once I get my new PSU (had to RMA this one) I will post again my new score, the run I did before PSU went bang (also got an accelro x2 now) was at 755/930 @ 3.1Gig on the Athlon 4000+ and I got 10,905, I will do another run as I am determined to hit 11000!, nice score for you tho with that slow core and memory LOL!!!!

You will find the Acceler X2 is actually terrible, the stock cooler is by far the best for temps. Just lap the base and add AS Cerqamique. I had an Accelero X2 on my X1800XT 256 and temps were worse than with stock cooler, reason being it does not vent the hot air outside the case.

I know even with my slower core/mem which is basically stock X1800XT speeds I break 10K. I have not had time to lap or replace the thermal pads or tim on the gpu with better stuff, but I am sure the card can do alot better. Post the 11K breakthrough when you have it!!

Tatty_One
09-18-2006, 07:06 PM
Cisco, the accelero lowered my idle temps by 8C and load temps by 15C!! plus it aint half as noisy as the jet engine stock machine, I hear what your sayong about the hot air staying in the case but I have some serious extractors in there so it dont stay inside for too long.

cisco kidd
09-19-2006, 06:29 AM
Cisco, the accelero lowered my idle temps by 8C and load temps by 15C!! plus it aint half as noisy as the jet engine stock machine, I hear what your sayong about the hot air staying in the case but I have some serious extractors in there so it dont stay inside for too long.

if it works for you continue to use it, most reviews from users many on oc.com agree it is garbage stock cooler is the best imho but I agree it is noisy esecially when it ramps up 100% I hate it as much as you, reason I downclock my card for reg usage then set it up in ATI tool for gaming and noise is not really noticeable with the fan speed decided by GPU temp

Tatty_One
09-19-2006, 04:15 PM
if it works for you continue to use it, most reviews from users many on oc.com agree it is garbage stock cooler is the best imho but I agree it is noisy esecially when it ramps up 100% I hate it as much as you, reason I downclock my card for reg usage then set it up in ATI tool for gaming and noise is not really noticeable with the fan speed decided by GPU temp

Well to be honest, I thought.....Accelero in the autumn/winter with the lower ambient temps and simply refit the stock come spring/summer to keep case temps down because even tho I have all these extractor fans I appreciate that you cannot get rid of all the heat but it just wont matter during a UK winter.

By the way for those that are interested, it's now official, the 1800XT in the UK is now CHEAPER than the 1800GTO2, the XT now costs just over £120 if you know where to get it ;) which makes it cheaper than the guys earlier post with the Sapphire unlocked to 16 pipes with the slow memory (sorry just had to mention that) at $209 US........BARGAIN!

stinzza
09-28-2006, 01:20 PM
anyone knowes of any 1800xt256mb with pn=102-a52004-xxx and not 113-a52004-xxx... this is critical since if i use a bios from techpowerup bios collection..there is only 113-a52004-xx bioses... i cant regulate tempfan or voltage in atitool... only if i use a x1800XL256 bios..help..somebody..need..pn=102-a52004-xxx

Apamedvapen
09-28-2006, 01:32 PM
I'll just take a pic of my clocking, so I don't have to write so much.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5992/1mn1.jpg

If I had a better CPU I would probably get a better 3Dmark05 score. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2228692

jonathan
10-18-2006, 07:35 PM
My Sapphire x1800GTO
12 pipes

core 730MHz 1.38V
memory 830MHz 2.1V


My results
http://forum.purepc.pl/index.php?s=&showtopic=194975&view=findpost&p=2311542

Tatty_One
10-18-2006, 07:52 PM
I'll just take a pic of my clocking, so I don't have to write so much.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5992/1mn1.jpg

If I had a better CPU I would probably get a better 3Dmark05 score. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2228692

Drop the MVDDQ to 2.075, that may allow for slightly higher memory clock but at the very least should reduce temps, give it a try.

Tatty_One
10-18-2006, 07:54 PM
anyone knowes of any 1800xt256mb with pn=102-a52004-xxx and not 113-a52004-xxx... this is critical since if i use a bios from techpowerup bios collection..there is only 113-a52004-xx bioses... i cant regulate tempfan or voltage in atitool... only if i use a x1800XL256 bios..help..somebody..need..pn=102-a52004-xxx

I am not sure but check out the connect 3D 1800XT 256MB, that may be your answer.

JC316
10-18-2006, 09:38 PM
Tatty, I already got Stinzza that Bios. I asked Wizz to post it, but I am not sure if he ever did.

Tatty_One
10-18-2006, 10:21 PM
Tatty, I already got Stinzza that Bios. I asked Wizz to post it, but I am not sure if he ever did.

K

hagr
11-12-2006, 01:00 AM
I got my x1800GTO to 730 on GPU and 860 on RAM with a voltage of 1,3000 on GPU and 1,8945 on the RAM... I use a x1800XL BIOS but i was not able to unlock the last 4 pipelines... so I use only 12... anyone got an idea how to get 16 pipelines working on my card? I got a Powercolor radeon x1800GTO 256MB.

Tatty_One
11-12-2006, 12:15 PM
I got my x1800GTO to 730 on GPU and 860 on RAM with a voltage of 1,3000 on GPU and 1,8945 on the RAM... I use a x1800XL BIOS but i was not able to unlock the last 4 pipelines... so I use only 12... anyone got an idea how to get 16 pipelines working on my card? I got a Powercolor radeon x1800GTO 256MB.


As I understand it...powercolor dont unlock.

bchivers
11-12-2006, 12:38 PM
What are the max voltages for the x1800gto, and what are normal OC'ed volts? TIA.

hagr
11-12-2006, 04:36 PM
I dont remember the mem. volts but core is 1.1 V

KennyT772
11-12-2006, 08:30 PM
im curious to what you all run your x1800xt's at for desktop usage. with atitool i set 350/500 with 1.00vcore 2.00/2.00 ram with a 40% fan speed.

Tatty_One
11-12-2006, 11:01 PM
Whilst mine does 740/900 (at 1.5V)I run her at 725/880 (1.45V) all day and just up the revs for benching. That gives me a 3D Mark 2005 score of around 10550 on my CPU at 3.2Gig, although TBH I have hardly used her since getting the 7900GTO.

bchivers
11-12-2006, 11:20 PM
Whilst mine does 740/900 (at 1.5V)I run her at 725/880 (1.45V) all day and just up the revs for benching. That gives me a 3D Mark 2005 score of around 10550 on my CPU at 3.2Gig, although TBH I have hardly used her since getting the 7900GTO.

1.5V is the core? What do you use for the memory voltage? I can't get my memory above 720 which bios are you using?

ace80
11-13-2006, 02:37 PM
1.5V is the core? What do you use for the memory voltage? I can't get my memory above 720 which bios are you using?Dont forget tatty has an xt, they also have looser timings than the His gto.
Still pushing at the mo but
@ 1.475v gpu=725
mem @ 2.37v=801, to hit 810 i need 2.4v

bchivers
11-13-2006, 03:11 PM
Dont forget tatty has an xt, they also have looser timings than the His gto.
Still pushing at the mo but
@ 1.475v gpu=725
mem @ 2.37v=801, to hit 810 i need 2.4v
The most I have used is 1.45v core and 2.2v mem. I use overclocker to OC it but it will only let me go to 2.2v on the mem. how do you get to 2.4v?

ace80
11-13-2006, 04:17 PM
The most I have used is 1.45v core and 2.2v mem. I use overclocker to OC it but it will only let me go to 2.2v on the mem. how do you get to 2.4v?
Using atitool b14, allows up to 2.482v.
When i first got the card in the early days i was using overclocker to control voltages, rivatuner to monitor temps and atitool to scan (long winded i know), then i think in the other x1800 thread it mentions about flashing a saph xl and the origonal bios at the same time to allow monitoring in atitool b14. It worked for me anyway and have been using eversince.

steve258
11-13-2006, 06:07 PM
I managed 730/840 on my C3D 1800Xt 256mb with 1.475V/2.1V so far using Ati Tray Tool, but I can't seem to change the mem voltage, anybody has any idea why??

Tatty_One
11-13-2006, 07:40 PM
1.5V is the core? What do you use for the memory voltage? I can't get my memory above 720 which bios are you using?

Memory at stock volts but try lowering the MVDDQ by a little, at worst it will lower your temps by up to 5C and at best it will give you 10-20Mhz in memory speed, raise the other (cant remember what its called) memory volt slightly, the same up for that as the MVDDQ is down so just a little, if my memory serves me right I had the MVDDQ on 2.0 does that sound right? not sure what the GTO's is set at and I cant check my XT because I have the 7900GTO in at the moment.

mascaras
11-13-2006, 07:48 PM
The most I have used is 1.45v core and 2.2v mem. I use overclocker to OC it but it will only let me go to 2.2v on the mem. how do you get to 2.4v?


Overclocker tool relax memory timings , you can run 900mhz memory but the score in 3dmark is same as +- 800mhz in memory with atitool ;)


regards

hagr
11-14-2006, 04:26 PM
SHIT!! you guys use high voltages... I clock 850 mem, with 1,9V... I have not even tried to run eith more then 2V

yogurt_21
11-17-2006, 03:42 AM
memory voltage needs to be upped on stock cooling and aircooling. when i put the water block on the x1800 and applied some ramsinks I was able to get to 950(1900) at stock mem voltage.

Easy Rhino
11-17-2006, 11:14 AM
alright i need some good input here. just upraded my PSU to OCZ 700 watter from CoolMax 550 W. The CoolMax performed well at times but kept shutting down on me. I also purchased a new motherboard which has the R540 chipset and the 3200 crossfire set, an upgrade from my r480 set and XPESS 200. im hoping these two purchases boost not just stability but performance as well. my 3dmark06 score prior to upgrades is 4550. ive overclocked to about 675/790 using 1.35v and 2.095 v. any more juice on the original setup and it would usually shit the bed on me. im using traytools to overclock. i was using atitool b14 but it would reset the clocks to default 594/693 setting when i hit set clocks. traytools has been very good to me. i dont like using overclocker because the voltage reader doesnt work correctly. anyway, im going to attempt to get this bad boy stable at 700/800 first using 1.5v and 2.1v im also adding a crossfire card next month so i want to make sure all is well.

ive read through most of this thread since i bought this card back in august so im familiar with most of peoples experiences here. just hoping for some more good input.

Tatty_One
11-17-2006, 07:33 PM
Firstly, in my opinion, better to bench with 2005 to measure your progress as its more graphics biased. I would not go above 1.5V myself, do you have stock or aftermarket cooling? 1.5V gives me 740 on the core, even if yours is not as lucky you should make 720 with 1.5V but dont go there straight away, there is a fine line here and the Idle temps once you get to 1.475V are unreliable in as much as at stock voltage the difference at a speed between idle and full load may be say 20C but at 1.5V the difference could be 30+C so keep your eye on those temps.

Combine increased GPU temps with memory overclocks and its going to get warm in there, r, increase the memory volts a little but decrease the MVDDQ by about the same, it helps memory stability and lowers your temps by about 5C (but do this at end), make sure when raising volts you do so in no more than 0.25V increments and then within that raise GPU core by maximum of 10Mhz (preferably just 5 but some are impatient!), test it say in 3D Mark 2005 (if you are not using ATi tool) for just 3 or 4 minutes before keeping at same volts but raising Mhz on core until you max out at that voltage then move up the volts and repeat.

Again in my opinion and from my personal experience, do not even attempt to overclock the memory until you have done everything with the core, once you have found your max core at the max voltage you are prepared to attempt then think about the memory, doing both together as you go along can accasionally cause instability and at the end of the day, core increase is MUCH more relevant than memory speed increase, in performance terms a 10Mhz core increase is worth anything in the region of 40Mhz+ in memory speed.

Easy Rhino
11-17-2006, 10:44 PM
Firstly, in my opinion, better to bench with 2005 to measure your progress as its more graphics biased. I would not go above 1.5V myself, do you have stock or aftermarket cooling? 1.5V gives me 740 on the core, even if yours is not as lucky you should make 720 with 1.5V but dont go there straight away, there is a fine line here and the Idle temps once you get to 1.475V are unreliable in as much as at stock voltage the difference at a speed between idle and full load may be say 20C but at 1.5V the difference could be 30+C so keep your eye on those temps.

Combine increased GPU temps with memory overclocks and its going to get warm in there, r, increase the memory volts a little but decrease the MVDDQ by about the same, it helps memory stability and lowers your temps by about 5C (but do this at end), make sure when raising volts you do so in no more than 0.25V increments and then within that raise GPU core by maximum of 10Mhz (preferably just 5 but some are impatient!), test it say in 3D Mark 2005 (if you are not using ATi tool) for just 3 or 4 minutes before keeping at same volts but raising Mhz on core until you max out at that voltage then move up the volts and repeat.

Again in my opinion and from my personal experience, do not even attempt to overclock the memory until you have done everything with the core, once you have found your max core at the max voltage you are prepared to attempt then think about the memory, doing both together as you go along can accasionally cause instability and at the end of the day, core increase is MUCH more relevant than memory speed increase, in performance terms a 10Mhz core increase is worth anything in the region of 40Mhz+ in memory speed.


ive been pretty successful overclocking this card for the past 3 months. now that i have more juice im going to really crank this thing out. ill definately get a aftermarket cooler tho. since i will be buying a crossfire card in a few weeks how will that impact overclocking? also, if i get a watercooler for these cards is there 1 unit that will cool both cards?

Old Bear
11-17-2006, 10:47 PM
Few days ago there was an article about thermaltake watercooling unit for 2 cards, should chk there.

sornypanafonic
12-04-2006, 08:45 PM
hi there, i actually put this up in a very old thread i had about a different problem, put since thats mislabeled and everyone here has the same type of card i decided to place this here as well

the problem is that i have a HIS x1800gto card and i want to unlock the extra 4 pipes. now i already have a bios that will do that thanks to ACE80, who gave me a copy of his that worked on HIS, har har har :laugh:. at the time i didnt have a floppy drive so i created some bootable cds. the bootable cds wouldnt work for reasons unknown, i created like 5 of them, none would really get working so i jsut caved in and attatched a floppy drive. created one with atiflash, didnt work, reasons unknown, maybe because its a HIS ICEQ3 x1800gto so i used flashrom240, 237 and 16p. none worked. the same problems would come up-

device 0 not found
ati adapter not found
error 0FL01

obviously the card is there and is working fine. before this a while back and as recently as a few hours ago i attempted atiwinflash or winflash or whatever the f*ck its called but it never worked, sure it may have just worked enought to royally screw sh*t up but i dont think it ever really did much, a problem of unmatching or something would come up and it never did anything. ive been trying to flash the bios ACE80 was kind enough to give me but without getting device 0 to be recognized im pretty much screwed.

actually just edited my bios myself (i dreaded it because i feared i would eff it up royally) but it worked great and now im running all 16 pipes at 550/570. oh yeah. thanks goes out to ace for his bios.

Aguiar
01-02-2007, 02:21 AM
HI ALL:toast: ...I too own a X1800 XT 512:roll: ...OC´ing stock cooler@675/792 so far and got 7764@3DMark05 and with only 4675 for CPU...Using ATITool 0.26 and altered VGPU to 1.400 V.**MVDDC/Q to 2.108 V. I´ll let it run for a few days to check behavior of system...I´ll be back.:D

Steevo
01-02-2007, 02:27 AM
I actually found that keeping my memory voltages lower and the clocks below 840 would prevent the white fuzz around the edges of the screen, as well as allow better GPU OCing.

Easy Rhino
01-09-2007, 09:30 PM
bah! why is the x1800xt still so expensive. it has been around for a year and a half now. ive had mine for 6 months. the price hasnt dropped! yet we see dx10 cards coming out and a few faster dx9 cards from ati and nvidia. anyone know why this is? :mad:

just asking cause im going to get a mastercard to go crossfire. im sick of reading about all this dx10 stuff when we wont see any big difference for atleast a year. :banghead:

Tatty_One
01-09-2007, 10:26 PM
bah! why is the x1800xt still so expensive. it has been around for a year and a half now. ive had mine for 6 months. the price hasnt dropped! yet we see dx10 cards coming out and a few faster dx9 cards from ati and nvidia. anyone know why this is? :mad:

just asking cause im going to get a mastercard to go crossfire. im sick of reading about all this dx10 stuff when we wont see any big difference for atleast a year. :banghead:

Rhino you can have mine if you want.

Easy Rhino
01-09-2007, 11:32 PM
Rhino you can have mine if you want.

is it the mastercard? cause that is the one i need.

Funkole
02-18-2007, 01:26 PM
x1800 XT @ V-Mod > Water & DryIce .....


810 MHz / 980 MHz @ 1,57 V / 2,2 V @ Water
855 MHz / 1000 MHz @ 1,91 V / 2,2 V @ DryIce > (coldbug)


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7324/unbenanntcm2.png


http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6162/13eb6.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3016/18ox7.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7771/19sq5.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6439/25um4.jpg

Love this card ;)

Waiting for the ATI r600 :cool:


Funkole

jjnissanpatfan
02-18-2007, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=Funkole;265310]x1800 XT @ V-Mod > Water & DryIce .....


810 MHz / 980 MHz @ 1,57 V / 2,2 V @ Water
855 MHz / 1000 MHz @ 1,91 V / 2,2 V @ DryIce > (coldbug)




I was wondering what you got in 3-d mark 05 or 06???I can get my 1800xt to 760/900 i know i could go higher but temps get outta control.

Funkole
02-18-2007, 01:42 PM
3DMark'06: 6366 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=852144)
3DMark'05: 13026 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2467097)
3DMark'03: 25899 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5124337)
3DMark'01: 63694 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9116982)

^^all with watercooling :toast:

chron
02-18-2007, 09:15 PM
WOW:toast:
awesome overclocking...

If I had some more cash and bigger genitals, I think I'd attempt stuff like this. I wonder though, if your running 1.91V to the core with dry ice, what happens to your voltage regulator temperatures? Does the entire card stay cold enough to cool them too? Same with water cooling, what kind of idle/load temperatures are your voltage regulators having?

Easy Rhino
02-22-2007, 10:55 AM
so what have yall got on air???? ive got a zalman cooler on mine with copper heatsinks and im stable at 710/820 at 1.4v with idle at 43 and load at 75. i have a lot of room to push it farther and since ive had this card for almost a year now i wanna know what guys have achieved recently on air.

Tatty_One
02-22-2007, 11:00 AM
so what have yall got on air???? ive got a zalman cooler on mine with copper heatsinks and im stable at 710/820 at 1.4v with idle at 43 and load at 75. i have a lot of room to push it farther and since ive had this card for almost a year now i wanna know what guys have achieved recently on air.

740/900 on Accelero x2 at 1.5V core coupled with my 4000+ @3.2Gig gave me 11,220 3D 2005 marks, cards fried now tho! nothing to do with overclocks, the PSU blew and fried it so its warranty returned.

Easy Rhino
02-22-2007, 11:09 AM
740/900 on Accelero x2 at 1.5V core coupled with my 4000+ @3.2Gig gave me 11,220 3D 2005 marks, cards fried now tho! nothing to do with overclocks, the PSU blew and fried it so its warranty returned.

that blows. i see you using the 7900 now? how does that compare in real world performance. ill see if i can hit 740/900 today. oh yea, what was your load/idle temps?

jjnissanpatfan
02-22-2007, 01:15 PM
The highest clocks with the 512 version was 760/910 side panel off with a big fan on it.
1.5 on the gpu and 1.9 on the memory the 256bit one didnt clock as good

Tatty_One
02-22-2007, 03:09 PM
that blows. i see you using the 7900 now? how does that compare in real world performance. ill see if i can hit 740/900 today. oh yea, what was your load/idle temps?

I actually did get it to 748/922 but it was not that stable, only using the 7900GTO, well got it because the 1800XT fried, am STILL waiting for Connect 3D to replace it with a 1950XT. How did the 2 cards compare? The 7900GTO is faster, runs cooler on stock silent heatpipe cooling and the IQ (notwithstanding no simultaneous HDR/AA) is at least as good as the 1800, I am by no means an NVidia fanboy as most of my cards have been ATi but I was genuinly surprised just how good the 7900GTO and therefore 7900GTX really is.

When I bought the GTO it was the same price as the 1950Pro as it was at the time of launch and for nearly 2000 extra 3D Mark 2005 point more with GTO I considered it excellent Bang for Buck. I loved the 1800 however because at the time it was almost the best out there and it is still fast with excellent IQ, IMO there would never be a reason to upgrade it to another DX9 card before going DX10 in the future!

Temps on the 1800 was around 46C idle, 56-60C at load on, as I said the Accelero with AS5.

chron
02-22-2007, 07:47 PM
yea i heard those 7900GTO's rock... Hard to find them now though.

Easy Rhino
02-22-2007, 09:08 PM
I actually did get it to 748/922 but it was not that stable, only using the 7900GTO, well got it because the 1800XT fried, am STILL waiting for Connect 3D to replace it with a 1950XT. How did the 2 cards compare? The 7900GTO is faster, runs cooler on stock silent heatpipe cooling and the IQ (notwithstanding no simultaneous HDR/AA) is at least as good as the 1800, I am by no means an NVidia fanboy as most of my cards have been ATi but I was genuinly surprised just how good the 7900GTO and therefore 7900GTX really is.

When I bought the GTO it was the same price as the 1950Pro as it was at the time of launch and for nearly 2000 extra 3D Mark 2005 point more with GTO I considered it excellent Bang for Buck. I loved the 1800 however because at the time it was almost the best out there and it is still fast with excellent IQ, IMO there would never be a reason to upgrade it to another DX9 card before going DX10 in the future!

Temps on the 1800 was around 46C idle, 56-60C at load on, as I said the Accelero with AS5.

didnt know the GTOs were really that good. im glad i got the 1800xt when it was the best. while it doesnt have the most pipes now for dx9 cards it still flies and plays everything at high settings with most games maxed. im going to shoot for stable 750/900 and leave it at that. very high settings on air IMO.

Tatty_One
02-23-2007, 12:11 AM
didnt know the GTOs were really that good. im glad i got the 1800xt when it was the best. while it doesnt have the most pipes now for dx9 cards it still flies and plays everything at high settings with most games maxed. im going to shoot for stable 750/900 and leave it at that. very high settings on air IMO.

750/900 is excellent if you can, make sure you have some active cooling on the back of the PCB cause it gets HOT at those clocks, I have an 80mm fan mounted on my freezer pro with a couple of screws stuck between the fins just to blow air on the PCB, it really does help.

Ohhh and when you said that you had not realised that the GTO was so good, well its faster than a stock 7900GTX so thats gotta be something, same chip, same memory, just lower volts to memory, core overclocks as well as a GTX (same volts) memory does not clock as well (less volts) but the GTX stock memory is 800 and will reach 910, my GTO goes upto about 850.

Sound_Card
02-27-2007, 05:00 PM
The x1800gto2 has got to be the best over clocker ever in the history of 3d cards. :cool:
All it is, is a down clocked x1800xt with lower core and memory voltages and lower memory latency.

I have my gto2 clocked at 700mhz/1600mhz from 500mhz/1000mhz. :rockout:

Tatty_One
02-28-2007, 07:43 PM
The x1800gto2 has got to be the best over clocker ever in the history of 3d cards. :cool:
All it is, is a down clocked x1800xt with lower core and memory voltages and lower memory latency.

I have my gto2 clocked at 700mhz/1600mhz from 500mhz/1000mhz. :rockout:

I had a 7900GT that stocked at 450/660, I got it to 665/900 with a voltmod :D then it fried :eek:

sl4vik
03-01-2007, 08:16 PM
Hello Guys, I'm new to these forums and have also recently obtained an x1800xt 512mb for $150, which I thought was a good enough deal to carry me over till R600.

I have some questions to you guys.

Currently the card is using the super loud and annoying stock fan, but I have recently ordered the Zalman VF900 to quiet and cool it down. Currently it idles at 51 Stock, so hopefull that will change.

Anyways, the card is clocked right now at 625/750. Which I am assuming is stock?

I mainly use this card for Oblivion and Medieval Total War II.

What is a good safety range I could try for overclocking it? So far on the stock cooling it goes up to 81C after about 2 hours playtime in Oblivion.

What are some good numbers I should go for with the Zalman VF900? I'm skeptical about raising the voltages, although some reassurance from you guys would help me.

Also to anyone who uses this card with Oblivion at 1680 x 1050 what kind of settings and tweaks are you getting to insure the smoothest gameplay? Right now I still drop to 21 FPS in the forest areas with HDR +2x AA 8xAF Tree Canopy shadows on, everything else maxed and grass/self shadows are off.

Thanks!

Tatty_One
03-02-2007, 01:04 PM
Hi and welcome!

As far as clocking is concerned, if you want to play it safe and not increase voltages in ATi Tool then 700/825 should work, if you want to raise your GPU volts a little just play with clocks but it is possible to get to 740/750 on around 1.5V but it gets kinda warm!

At 700/825 you should be able to run Oblivion on Max settings but perhaps keep AA to x2 and tinker with AF, perhaps just x8, if you Enable HDR you might have to slightly drop some in game settings, just play, you can download "FRAPS" to check what in game FPS you are acheiving and adjust accordingly.

largon
03-07-2007, 09:14 PM
Does someone here have a Connect3D X1800XT 512MB?
I'm trying to find the original bios for this card.

pt
03-09-2007, 03:10 AM
anyone knows why my card locks up with 1.225 voltage and everything above???
loads at 44ºc, max. clocks i can get is 550/550 (stock 500/500)
any ideas?

Tatty_One
03-09-2007, 09:44 AM
anyone knows why my card locks up with 1.225 voltage and everything above???
loads at 44ºc, max. clocks i can get is 550/550 (stock 500/500)
any ideas?

I am not aware of this specific problem and from what you have said it cannot be temps, are any other elements of the card/pcb very hot to the touch? You may find that it could be something else other than GPU/memory heat, if so try a fan mount blowing air onto the back of the PCB.

Some find that raising the memory voltage very slightly but lowering the MVDDQ "loostens" and stabalises things also, you could try that.

Let me know how you get on, if that doesent work we will have to try something else. ohhh, if they dont work, just try raising your PCI-E speed to say 105Mhz see if that helps.

pt
03-09-2007, 11:52 AM
I am not aware of this specific problem and from what you have said it cannot be temps, are any other elements of the card/pcb very hot to the touch? You may find that it could be something else other than GPU/memory heat, if so try a fan mount blowing air onto the back of the PCB.

Some find that raising the memory voltage very slightly but lowering the MVDDQ "loostens" and stabalises things also, you could try that.

Let me know how you get on, if that doesent work we will have to try something else. ohhh, if they dont work, just try raising your PCI-E speed to say 105Mhz see if that helps.

about the fan on top it's a bit tight, but i will try, the ambient is also 33ºc
don't know if a part is too hot since i don't touch it :p
will they raising the pci-e speed

Easy Rhino
03-09-2007, 11:54 AM
well ive beaten the crap outta my 1800xt and havnt had any problems with it. sorry i cant help.

Rick Hunter
03-14-2007, 05:10 PM
I've got a HIS X1800XT 256MB. Stock bios, 1.425 V gpu / 1.996 V mem with modded stock cooler (kept stock heatsink & removed stock fan & added an 80 cfm Delta fan with ducting on a rheobus).
711 MHz gpu / 860 MHz mem stable for hours in Oblivion. Temps are around 53 to 55 deg under load with 23-25 deg ambient.

Haven't pushed more volts into it yet. It seems the key for good mem OCing seems to be more gpu volts. At 1.375V, I wasn't able to break 830 MHz on the mem (regardless of mem volts).

Update:
My HIS X1800XT 256MB is running fine at 1.475 V gpu / 2.050 V mem 1.945 MVDDQ @ 715 MHz GPU and 880 MHz mem - same cooling as above. The aforementioned lowering of MVDDQ compared to mem voltage has helped the mem OC. I haven't played around with the voltages enough - perhaps there's still some headroom in the mem. Temps are running to ~57 with the extra gpu voltage.

Tatty_One
03-14-2007, 07:54 PM
Update:
My HIS X1800XT 256MB is running fine at 1.475 V gpu / 2.050 V mem 1.945 MVDDQ @ 715 MHz GPU and 880 MHz mem - same cooling as above. The aforementioned lowering of MVDDQ compared to mem voltage has helped the mem OC. I haven't played around with the voltages enough - perhaps there's still some headroom in the mem. Temps are running to ~57 with the extra gpu voltage.

Your doing OK there and if your 57C is at heavy load (ie ati tool 3D artifact scanning) then there is headroom to push on a little more, but is there a need?.....probably not.

Rick Hunter
03-18-2007, 06:08 AM
Your doing OK there and if your 57C is at heavy load (ie ati tool 3D artifact scanning) then there is headroom to push on a little more, but is there a need?.....probably not.

Yah, 57 degrees under heavy load.
I'm now running at 715 MHz GPU and 891 MHz mem stable artifact free.
VGPU is 1.475 V
VMem is 2.095 V
VMDDQ is 1.925 V

900 MHz artifacts within a few minute regardless of voltage (went up to 2.120 V and played with VMDDQ).

Now if only I'd have 512 MB memory - Oblivion really needs a lot of vid mem for the best texture mods. I'm spending more time tweaking/resizing texture packs than playing the game :)

damian911
03-26-2007, 09:15 PM
I had a situation recently arise with my Sapphire X1800GTO. When I initially purchased it about 3 months ago I was able to get stable speeds of ~650/650 using stock voltages and stock cooling. Wanting to push things, I installed a VF900 and was able to easily get the same results but with much lower temps (~20C lower under load, 15C idle). The voltages still had not been adjusted.

In the last couple of days, my card started locking up at these OC'd speeds when I loaded the OC profile in ATITool (0.26). Isolating the problem to my GPU (I can still OC the memory just fine), I am suddenly capping out at about 550MHz before artifacts appear in the 3D test, and at anything above ~620MHz, it locks up forcing a restart. All of this has been done with a software mod with ATITool, the BIOS is still the default. I have tried this with my E6400 OC'd up to 3.2GHz, or stock at 2.1GHz, memory set above and below the rated 800MHz. I can't seem to figure out what caused this issue.

I can't seem to figure out what may have happened in any of the settings to limit this. Is there a chance that the board got too hot (I don't see how considering that all the voltages are stock) and this has permanently damaged/limited the OC capabilities? Something else?

Also, what are the safe voltage limits on this card if I wanted to try raising this to improve stability? I plan to limit the GPU temps to around 60C. I've seen several people with 1.5V+, but I believe that was on a XT and I wasn't sure if those tolerances were different.

Thanks for any help.

Tatty_One
03-26-2007, 10:04 PM
It may be temps on the other components of the card, with stock cooling at best you get GPU and Ram cooled, all the other bits and pieces get hot also, you could try an active fan mounted so it blows cold air onto the PCB see if that helps.

DrunkenMafia
03-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Hey PT

I have the same card as you, the powercolor X1800GTO. I found that with mine if you raise the volts on the gpu more than 2 steps I get artifacts, I believe this is called the voltage bug or something.... does your card have 5 or 6 vregs on the pcb?

damian911
03-27-2007, 01:35 AM
Mine has 5 voltage regs on the PCB. If I remember right, only the HIS has 6 on it (I'm not certain which version has 6, but I thought it is the same one with all the success unlocking the add'l pipes).

This is all happening at the standard 1.075V. And the weird thing is that I was able to OC much further on 1.075V before. I can't figure out what may have changed.

pt
03-27-2007, 01:38 AM
Hey PT

I have the same card as you, the powercolor X1800GTO. I found that with mine if you raise the volts on the gpu more than 2 steps I get artifacts, I believe this is called the voltage bug or something.... does your card have 5 or 6 vregs on the pcb?

5, and it doesn't like votlage at all, nor high overclock at stock voltages
the highest i got was 550/550 :(

Filip
04-02-2007, 06:08 PM
EY! I need help! I have sapphire ati radeon x1800gto 256mb with samsung 2.0 memory and zalman vf900-cu, and I want clock my card and flash a bios of XT/XL version. But I dont know how! Can you explain me how to do that? I am from Croatia and dont speak english so good but I can understand what you say! Thanks advance!:toast:

chron
04-02-2007, 09:32 PM
EY! I need help! I have sapphire ati radeon x1800gto 256mb with samsung 2.0 memory and zalman vf900-cu, and I want clock my card and flash a bios of XT/XL version. But I dont know how! Can you explain me how to do that? I am from Croatia and dont speak english so good but I can understand what you say! Thanks advance!:toast:

Sapphire cards have not had a very good unlock rate. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=12138&highlight=Radeon+X1800GTO% This is a good forum for your questions.

Basically, if your card does not unlock, you can still raise the voltages (given the propper cooling.) At 1.45v I ran my x1800gto at 700/700 which i think was the best it could do period.

Filip
04-08-2007, 08:44 AM
Sapphire cards have not had a very good unlock rate. http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=12138&highlight=Radeon+X1800GTO% This is a good forum for your questions.

Basically, if your card does not unlock, you can still raise the voltages (given the propper cooling.) At 1.45v I ran my x1800gto at 700/700 which i think was the best it could do period.


How raise temp. is on 700/700, and have you stock cooler or some better?

chron
04-08-2007, 08:27 PM
My cooling for my X1800GTO was a VF1-Plus. Newegg has them for sale. Excellent heatsink. Kept load temperatures under 70C and idled at arround 45. Very safe. For some reason I never needed to mess with my memory voltages. When I would raise my core voltage, I found I could raise my core clock AND my memory clock for some reason. It might not be the same for all cards, but thats how it was for me.

Good luck.

Filip
04-08-2007, 08:45 PM
So, if load temp is under 70-75 card is safe?!

Easy Rhino
04-09-2007, 01:59 AM
So, if load temp is under 70-75 card is safe?!

oh yea. ive cranked mine up to 90 for a good hour and it was fine. i think when it hits 93 it shuts it self down.

Nitrogliserin
04-25-2007, 09:24 PM
yeah my x1800xt is hitting 93-94 at playing test drive unlimited.
I cant imagine the card that moment :S

Aguiar
04-27-2007, 05:28 AM
Hi all...i want a x1800xtx crossfire edition,does someone know were i can get 1,cause i´ve searching and it seems to vanish from the face of the earth.Thank u for any info.

pt
04-27-2007, 12:34 PM
http://www.kuantokusta.pt/Placas-Video-Placas-Graficas-Sapphire-Radeon-X1800-CrossFire-512Mb-(PCI-E).php

too expensive to be worth it

Easy Rhino
04-27-2007, 02:25 PM
yea way to expensive. i cant see too many people buying those considering the price of good dx10 cards to come soon.

Aguiar
05-04-2007, 06:05 AM
Theyre very expensive...if you buy from a store,but i´m considering someone witch is doing a upgrade and want to sell is...:D

Steevo
05-06-2007, 06:03 PM
76 @ 1.4core running F@H GPU 675Mhz.


No issues.

Ripper3
05-13-2007, 06:03 PM
ATi factory made X1800GTO, still locked
Max. temp. of 74*c with Accelero X2
VGPU @ 1.4V
MVDDC @ 2.201V
MVDDQ @ 2.001V
Memory timings much much looser than stock

With all of this, I can manage:
GPU @ 695MHz
Mem @ 693MHz (1386MHz)

Any higher voltages, and I reach the point of dimished returns. With 1.425V I can only reach 702 GPU, and 703 Mem, but with some occasional artifacting and higher temps, but I can also reach these speeds with the current voltage, with only a little more artifacting.

yogurt_21
05-14-2007, 04:17 AM
pretty sweet oc on air cooling, whats the performance improvement over stock speeds, just curious.

Ripper3
05-14-2007, 04:52 PM
I haven't tested it extensively with benchmarks at this speed, but for reference:
With catalyst 7.2, and stock cooler, no volts added, in 3DM05 and with the system in my specs on teh left;
No OC (500/500): 6690
Small OC (546/500): 7070
Not huge, but a nice little increase, from just a simple 46MHz on the GPU.
When I upped the voltages a little I managed to get: 600/666 (heheheh, twas the max actually), but still with stock cooling and very small voltage increase.
At 600/666: 7763

This GPU really speeds up nicely and does improve alot more than I expected. Even without the extra pipeline quad though, it manages Oblivion at 1280x1024, HDR, 16xAF (cba for AA), and Ultra-High settings with an average of, I'd say, about 35fps. It dips to 25fps when outisde, looking at a large forrest from a high hill.
Definately beats my old 6600 (which could still manage 1280x1024 with 8xAF and Medium settings with 25fps average, dipping to 15, which is still kinda playable to me)

Also, I think I could probably lower my temps with some extra air circulating my case, it's not quite got the air circulation of my old case (two 120mm fans one up front, one at the back, and side vent in front of GPU, and an 80mm in front of my CPU), but will probably improve when I get the other fans I ordered.
I'd love to get watercooling, but I doubt I can get it with £25, heh.

What d'you get with that overclock btw?

Filip
05-18-2007, 06:38 PM
I haven't tested it extensively with benchmarks at this speed, but for reference:
With catalyst 7.2, and stock cooler, no volts added, in 3DM05 and with the system in my specs on teh left;
No OC (500/500): 6690
Small OC (546/500): 7070
Not huge, but a nice little increase, from just a simple 46MHz on the GPU.
When I upped the voltages a little I managed to get: 600/666 (heheheh, twas the max actually), but still with stock cooling and very small voltage increase.
At 600/666: 7763

This GPU really speeds up nicely and does improve alot more than I expected. Even without the extra pipeline quad though, it manages Oblivion at 1280x1024, HDR, 16xAF (cba for AA), and Ultra-High settings with an average of, I'd say, about 35fps. It dips to 25fps when outisde, looking at a large forrest from a high hill.
Definately beats my old 6600 (which could still manage 1280x1024 with 8xAF and Medium settings with 25fps average, dipping to 15, which is still kinda playable to me)

Also, I think I could probably lower my temps with some extra air circulating my case, it's not quite got the air circulation of my old case (two 120mm fans one up front, one at the back, and side vent in front of GPU, and an 80mm in front of my CPU), but will probably improve when I get the other fans I ordered.
I'd love to get watercooling, but I doubt I can get it with £25, heh.

What d'you get with that overclock btw?

Voltages?

Ripper3
05-19-2007, 12:18 AM
I think I had it at 1.3V GPU and 1.9V MVDDC and 1.9V MVDDQ for 600/666, or something similar to those voltages. I was trying to be a little conservative with that overclock in terms of temperatures and voltages.
546/500 was on stock voltages I believe, although I wouldnt be surprised if I did end up upping the GPU voltage a bit for that.

Filip
05-27-2007, 06:57 PM
If anybody have sapphire ati radeon x1800gto with samsung 2.0 memory, please upload your original bios!? What are stock voltages of gpu? Tnx advance

Pandaz3
06-01-2007, 04:55 AM
In my rig #2, I just replaced my ATI X850 Pro AGP, a 256 card (540, 590), with a ASUS X1800 XT 512 card stock at (594, 693)

(I have a ASRock 939 Dual VSTA motherboard that has both AGP and PCI-E slots)

I really see a difference and it makes me happy, meanwhile the clocked X850 Pro will replace my unclocked 9500 Pro in a Abit UL8 board

I just loaded the 7.5 cats on this and my X1950 XTX the only difference I see is they now package Steam and Earthsim downloads.

Ripper3
06-01-2007, 09:07 PM
OH God, they now include EarthSim, as well as Steam?
I hate EarthSim, most useless program ever, unless you pay for the upgrade.
I already have Steam, what will it do if you already have Steam, or can you choose not to install the extra programs?

Pandaz3
06-02-2007, 12:20 AM
You can deselect both of them

Nitrogliserin
06-23-2007, 01:11 AM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7673/untitledco6.jpg

countdown to death for my card :S

1.4vgpu 2.097vdimm 680/780 accelero x2 cooler :S

Nitrogliserin
08-22-2007, 03:11 AM
dont worry its still alive :D

Pandaz3
08-22-2007, 04:01 AM
Glad to hear your card is still plugging away!

I bought a second X1800XT and tried them on a Abit AT8 32X Cossfire board thinking I coud get them to work with the latest Cats in Crossfire.

No I couldn't

and I picked up a X1900XT too.

Easy Rhino
08-22-2007, 10:06 AM
Glad to hear your card is still plugging away!

I bought a second X1800XT and tried them on a Abit AT8 32X Cossfire board thinking I coud get them to work with the latest Cats in Crossfire.

No I couldn't

and I picked up a X1900XT too.

really?? that is the mobo i use but i only have 1 1800xt. dumb question but did you make sure to get the right crossfire edition card??

Pandaz3
08-22-2007, 12:46 PM
No I did not have a X1800 Crossfire edition, I have a ASUS and Sapphire 512 editions of ot the X1800 XT, and I looked low and high for an answer as to whether you could use them via software, and the general was NO. but no one knew for sure. I know my setup won't work.

I did know of the hardware stipulation, but that had been around since the X1800's existance, and with the newer Cat drivers using software Crossfire, no one seemed to know for sure if it would or would not work with two X1800 series.

I did get the Abit splash screen which was correctly rendered, and it indicated it would enter setup if (For my Abit motherboard) I pushed the delete key, but it would not actually enter setup, just go to the next screen in the post sequence and Hang.

I should not have mentioned the 1900 XT, as it was just to replace one of the 1800 XT's to free up the 1800 for my Crossfire project.

I have really given up on finding a reasonable 1800 Crossfire edition (It is not worth much more than a 1800 XT to me). Instead I will seek a Crossfire capable 1900 series.

I just want to use the dual GPU folding client, which will only work with ATI based cards.

(I do use the single GPU client on my X1800 XT and it works well, but the X1900 XT is a monster at folding)

At least someone has attempted to use X1800 XT's in software Crossfire and now we know for sure there is a hardware limitation that cannot be overcome without a dedicated X1800 Crossfire card.

FreedomEclipse
09-26-2007, 08:49 PM
Oh great a X1800XT series club - count me in!!!!!!


GeCube X1800XT 512Mb

Ive run it at gpu: 682Mhz Mem: 783

but I think my PSU is holding me back a lot as i literally squeezing every single bit of power out of it as soon as my pc boots up with the amount of hardware i got connected up to it.

will have to get that sorted soon the possibly try o/c again

MadDias
10-11-2007, 08:47 PM
i was just browsing this forum looking for atitool updates and stumbled across this thread.
i´m a proud owner of a x1800 crossfire rig ;)
owning three of them

x1800xt 256mb (350euro in feb2006)
x1800xt 512mb (290euro in dec2006)
x1800crossfire edition (250euro in nov2006)

the 256mb was my first card, followed by the cf-edition card. but a 256mb card and the cf-edition card didn´t really work well together.
oc stopped at 690/790

so i had to get another 512mb card, which was more expensive than the cf card.
and they are running 732/850 in cf since i put them under waterblocks.

if u wanna see some benchmarks check out my overclocking database entry (http://www.diy-street.com/forum/showpost.php?p=687925&postcount=379) over at diy-street (former dfi-street).

i will get two shiny new hd2900pro´s next week. so if ur from germany (or wanna pay ridicolous high shipping fees) and want to buy one of these cards, send me a pm.

Nitrogliserin
10-11-2007, 09:04 PM
x1800 is still cool for me
It can play well every game except dx10

Easy Rhino
10-12-2007, 01:21 AM
yea my x1800xt still plays all games at high resolutions and frame rates. but no dx10 :/

Pandaz3
10-13-2007, 01:19 PM
The Warden (Wife) had a problem with her EPoX 9NPA+ computer which had a HIS X1650XT in it but I changed HDD'S thinking that was possibly the random oddity thing. No it wasn't, I pulled the X-Fi, Floppy with no change so I got the "small" (Physically, compared to the ASUS) X1800XT and at the same time changed out the Crucial Ballistix for Corsair PC3200 XL. I guess it was the RAM. I haven't had time to check it yet. But the Warden won't let loose of that X1800XT !

Easy Rhino
11-21-2007, 04:30 PM
well im pretty sure my x1800xt 512 is shot to shit. it heats up way to fast! ive got a zalman on it and that worked really well for 8 months. not sure what happened but running games the PC craps out after 10 minutes. i run the atitool cube thingy and i can see the gpu burn up! wtf happened! im gonna try and take it out and see.

Pandaz3
11-21-2007, 08:44 PM
I had a very high OC on a 9500 Pro for nearly two years and it then crapped out. I had mine backed off just a tiny bit from artifact's, I would guess you did your OC after you installed the Zalman. Overclocking is great but it tires the equipment quick.

Easy Rhino
11-21-2007, 09:21 PM
I had a very high OC on a 9500 Pro for nearly two years and it then crapped out. I had mine backed off just a tiny bit from artifact's, I would guess you did your OC after you installed the Zalman. Overclocking is great but it tires the equipment quick.

yea, that is what everyone says. oh well, it was fun while it lasted. the only way i can play anything for longer than 20 minutes is too underclock and undervolt the card, and keep the fan at 100% and lower gaming resolution.

Pandaz3
11-22-2007, 12:01 AM
Well the 3870's (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161212)are sold out at the moment but therir prices are not bad

Easy Rhino
11-22-2007, 01:20 AM
Well the 3870's (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161212)are sold out at the moment but therir prices are not bad


im actually about to buy a ps3. im love building and modding computers, but im tired of spending all the cash just to play games.

snuif09
12-12-2007, 03:58 PM
then buy an xbox 360 it has an x1800 and tri core proccesor:rockout::rockout::rockout::rockout:

ps3 has 7900GTX and ps3 doesnt have anti alliasing

Easy Rhino
12-12-2007, 07:50 PM
then buy an xbox 360 it has an x1800 and tri core proccesor:rockout::rockout::rockout::rockout:

ps3 has 7900GTX and ps3 doesnt have anti alliasing

i dont know who told you the ps3 doesnt have anti aliasing because it does. also the 7900gtx is superior to the x1800... and all the ps3 games look 3x as good as the xbox360 games on my 42 inch 1080p tv. thanks though.

snuif09
12-13-2007, 03:42 PM
but you will notice in benchmarks of the 7900gtx with HDR and AA will have an error and that it doent have
AA is told by my eye or it was only in that F1 game

Easy Rhino
12-13-2007, 05:55 PM
but you will notice in benchmarks of the 7900gtx with HDR and AA will have an error and that it doent have
AA is told by my eye or it was only in that F1 game

it doesnt work that way. the ps3 is an entire system. it is more than the cpu/gpu .

tvdang7
01-02-2008, 05:24 AM
i think the xbox is more of x1900 since its got shader units.

and here they state the ps3 saying it has a 7800gtx like gpu not 7900gtx.
http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152&p=2

Pandaz3
01-02-2008, 05:59 AM
"The Warden (Wife) had a problem with her EPoX 9NPA+ computer which had a HIS X1650XT in it but I changed HDD'S thinking that was possibly the random oddity thing. No it wasn't, I pulled the X-Fi, Floppy with no change so I got the "small" (Physically, compared to the ASUS) X1800XT and at the same time changed out the Crucial Ballistix for Corsair PC3200 XL. I guess it was the RAM. I haven't had time to check it yet. But the Warden won't let loose of that X1800XT !
10-11-2007 05:21 PM"

Well I was wrong about the RAM. I put the X1650XT in an new machine (Abit KN9 SLI, AM2 X2 5000+ Blackie, 2 Gig GSKill PC6400 in a New Antec 900 case) The Video card was acting up so I had to put my X1900 XTX in there, made the Warden even happier. The HIS is in NewEgg's RMA process now. I think, if they can't replace it I will pay the difference for a 3870. I have two more boards I think that will need cards and I would like the better one in my main rig...naturally

kay188
04-18-2008, 03:09 AM
so if we got an X1800 we just post here?

I got an X1800XL! :)

Quite slow though with 2ns ram.
It cant OC much.
I tried OCing the core, but it just locks up :P