RV770 has 800 SPs, breaks 1.2TFLOPS

[KainXS]

nortichardware is pretty reliable in my opinion

800SP's = :)

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7841.html

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4666/image3phppc1.jpg

The extra 320 are supposed to be for PhysX to rival Nvidia's CUDA PhysX

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7755.html
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7585.html

hope its real

[Exceededgoku]

That is ridiculous...

[J-Man]

:)

[Megasty]

Even so...

These idiots are eating it up http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=182304&page=62

I do commend their stupidity, it made for a good laugh :p

Even if everyone is saying its impossible, its definitely been heard before with the 29xx & 38xx. 160*5D vs 96*5D is certainly possible but the card will pwn either way :rockout:

[calvary1980]

it's fake see this thread (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=62298)

XS IQ level is getting smaller by the month.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs :laugh: trekkies know what i'm talking about!

- Christine

[MrHydes]

fake or true?

any news on this strange 800 SP's??

[flashstar]

Might be true...

[calvary1980]

it's fake, these cards have already been shipped and the final specs have been out for the last 30 days. it is impossible to fit 800 stream processors on a core of that size.

- Christine

[MrHydes]

it's fake, these cards have already been shipped and the final specs have been out for the last 30 days. it is impossible to fit 800 stream processors on a core of that size.

- Christine
i belive in Andreas G from nordic but if this comes out fake, i will not read any thing from

him again...

[WarEagleAU]

That is awesome if its any sort of true.

[MrHydes]

That is awesome if its any sort of true.

at least th 1200 Tfloops seems to be correct as many people aclaims

[panchoman]

very interesting,

i think this might be true, as amd did promise 1tflop+ and a new shader architecture... plus whoever made that would get into uber trouble for stamping the amd logo on unofficial documents etc

but you never know, it is preety suspicious

[Megasty]

very interesting,

i think this might be true, as amd did promise 1tflop+ and a new shader architecture... plus whoever made that would get into uber trouble for stamping the amd logo on unofficial documents etc

It might be that its just unfinished but from the way it looks, it was probably not ready for the public just yet. If it was right the 4870 would crush the 3870x2 - in benchmarking :rolleyes: I want to see these things in action - NOW :p

[magibeg]

I'm not sure how much weight I'm going to put in this. I hope its true but at the same time it seems far fetched to me.

[largon]

This thread and some post here will look quite funny after a short while...

[magibeg]

This thread and some post here will look quite funny after a short while...

what do you mean?

[Megasty]

This thread and some post here will look quite funny after a short while...

I don't mine at all. None of us truly believe these fuzzy charts anyway. I'll be going to XS for my laughs. They are incredible compared to us. Some of those idiots are staking their firstborn on them :shadedshu

[KainXS]

I posted the story because I thought nortichardware was reliable but after closely inspecting the characters on that chart, it looks fake

check yourselves, it looks fake

maybe its my lcd

[tkpenalty]

it's fake, these cards have already been shipped and the final specs have been out for the last 30 days. it is impossible to fit 800 stream processors on a core of that size.

- Christine

+1. 800SP would have to equate to a die size larger than the GTX280's-the GTX280's die size is already a monstrousity (2x the surface area of a G92's die... thats freaking huge!).

Unless of course that was a typo and was meant to be the R700, but STILL. AMD Does not make their shader processor quads in 100s...R700 is 960 Shaders, 480x2.

[b]heres an interview with one of the AMD engineers explaining about the R700s: http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

I posted the story because I thought nortichardware was reliable but after closely inspecting the characters on that chart, it looks fake

check yourselves, it looks fake

maybe its my lcd

Yep its fake. Specs are too fishy.

Hey guys does malware have something against Fudzilla? Those guys have good info on the latest stuff, but some reason Malware likes to ignore me when I approach him with those articles...

[lemonadesoda]

I cant believe I got Ricked... that's usually my trick on RV770. LOL. Good one.

[SSXeon]

SPs are cheaper then you think. :slap: (R580 anyone?) And why is everyone set on this 256mm2 die? The pics ive seen are very close to the size of the G92, but a bit smaller. Also R580 had 12 SIMDs vs 4 of the R520, and it looks like close to that but down 2 to 10. The only reason im on the 800sp train is because of the "Terascale" talk with RV770, and that would imply so with the clocks shown. The 480sp with shader domain was FUD, and alot of guys know this. This will be very interesting, and i dont see how this isnt crazy to think, this reminds me ALOT of last gen, cept instead of the RV770 coming when the RV670 came out. I can understand because of the complexity of these newer chips.

ATi partners and even employees are so tight lipped about this chip its not ever funny. So all my views are not from ATi, they dont really tell me much, cept "test this driver please". :laugh: :roll:

[calvary1980]

malware and jimmy wont accept inquirer or fudzilla articles period. they are also skeptical on vr-zone and nordic articles as some of them are rumor or hearsay.

- Christine

[tkpenalty]

malware and jimmy wont accept inquirer or fudzilla articles period. they are also skeptical on vr-zone and nordic articles as some of them are rumor or hearsay.

- Christine

Well... Inquirer, there is a reason-the writer makes the articles really biased (to ATi) most of the time.. Fudzilla, I wouldn't really know. Last year I accused them of making BS up, but I was shut up when all their "bullshit" was actually true; i.e. R600 actually was inferior to the G80.

Those guys seem to usually have the news of hardware specs WAY before everyone else...

[ShogoXT]

Well as a ATI fanboi heres hoping. I have a question though: I have been getting a advanced feel for computers and how it got to where it is for a while now, enough so to make it a effective career, but would some be able to explain a bit how die size comes into this and how it works for the video cards? I would greatly appreciate it.

[tkpenalty]

Well as a ATI fanboi heres hoping. I have a question though: I have been getting a advanced feel for computers and how it got to where it is for a while now, enough so to make it a effective career, but would some be able to explain a bit how die size comes into this and how it works for the video cards? I would greatly appreciate it.

Die = the silicon chip of a processor. Basically we are talking about the size of the chip itself, or the "Die size" in this context.

[flashstar]

Tkpenalty, the G80-g92 are in fact inferior to the R600. The ring bus is actually quite amazing. I remember reading several articles on how it works and it's definitely a step ahead of Nvidia's design. Unfortunately, ATI was rushed to finish the R600 and consequently had to release an inferior product. The core design is certainly not inferior to Nvidia's current generation.

I wouldn't be surprised if the R770 actually matches the GTX-280 in raw performance. Once ATI fixes all of the corners that they cut with the R600 and adds more raw power in order to develop the R770, you will be looking at a much larger boost in performance that Nvidia could ever hope to squeeze out of their design.

Remember folks that Nvidia has pretty much stayed with the same core design since the Nv40! ;)

[hayder.master]

great

[yogurt_21]

800 or 480 doesn't matter considering the extra 320sp's are al simple.

it has been confirmed by the wiz however, that there are 160 complex shaders on the core. which is the only number I care about being that the 2900's/3870's only had 64 complex shaders.

so either way this thing is definetly going to perform better then it's predecessors.

[From_Nowhere]

I thought "Stream Processing Units," on ATI cards meant that number divided by 5 because their stream processors are capable of 5 operations per clock. So 800 Stream Processing Units (160 Stream Processors) seems reasonable. Anyway, the 4800 series seems to be a very good improvement over the 3800 series.

[P4-630]

And when it's out, it would have 500 SP's and everyone would be wrong hehe:roll:

Was it not "800"+ million transistors and 480 stream processors?


Specifications: 480 stream processors, 800+ million transistors

Let’s have a look at the general specifications of the Radeon 4800 series, which is based on the RV770 graphics processor. The new GPU has 480 stream processors or shader units (96+384), 32 Texture units (up from 16), 16 ROP (same as 2900/3800), a 256-bit memory controller and native GDDR3/4/5 support (expect GDDR3 and GDDR5 memory versions of RV770 cards).

The transistor count has jumped from 666 million in the RV670 to more than 800 million transistors in the RV770.

The manufacturing process has been carried over: TSMC is producing the GPUs in 55 nm (the process itself is called 55GC).

The Radeon 3800 series had a serious flaw called texture low fill-rate, which was addressed by ATI with an increased number of TMUs (Texture Memory Unit) from 16 to 32. The specifications indicate that 16 TMUs can address 80 textures on the fly, which means that 32 units should be able to fetch 160 in the RV770: This should allow the new GPU to catch up with Nvidia’s G92 design. However, the G92 has 64 TMUs that were enabled gradually (some SKUs shipped with 56), resulting in a fill-rate performance that beat the original 8800GTX and Ultra models.

ATI’s RV770 will be rated at a fill rate of 20.8-27.2 GTexel/s (excluding X2 version), which is on the lower end of the GeForce 9 series (9600 GT: 20.8; 9800 GTX: 43.2 9800 GX2: 76.8).

New for the 4800 series is AMD’s decision to split the clock of the GPU and shaders, following a move that Nvidia made with the GeForce 8800: Back then, the shaders were clocked at 1.35 GHz, while the rest of the chip ticked at 575 MHz.


http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37093/135/

[hayder.master]

anyone have more details of hd 4850 and 4870,4870 x2 , evrything

[HydroIT]

I don't know, I think it looks reasonable, especially considering how serious AMD is with marketing it as "one teraflop" etc... :p

[P4-630]

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3
21132-00-20R

€ 184,00

bus 256-bit
memory 2,0GHz GDDR3
ATI RV770
HDCP compatible
HDMI out
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Single slot cooling
Shader speed 850Mhz
Shaders 480
clock speed 625Mhz
TV-Out S-Video

http://www.digicom-it.be/product/19170/Sapphire_Radeon_HD_4850_512MB_21132-00-20R.html

[HydroIT]

Erm..

http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html

Stream Processors 800
Core Clock 625 MHz
Memory Clock 1000 MHz
Memory Interface 256 bit
Memory Type 512MB GDDR3
Texture Fillrate (billion/sec) 24.0
Fabrication Process 55nm
Bus Interface PCIe 2.0 x16

[P4-630]

Erm..

http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html

Stream Processors 800
Core Clock 625 MHz
Memory Clock 1000 MHz
Memory Interface 256 bit
Memory Type 512MB GDDR3
Texture Fillrate (billion/sec) 24.0
Fabrication Process 55nm
Bus Interface PCIe 2.0 x16



Do we believe a "Jimmyz from a small town in Indiana"
http://fxvideocards.com/PCI-Express-2.0-PCI-E-2.0-p-1-c-275.html
VisionTek Radeon HD 4850 with no specific product code specified and......Out of Stock......
http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html

or

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Productcode 21132-00-20R

€ 184,00
Pre-order

http://www.digicom-it.be/product/19170/Sapphire_Radeon_HD_4850_512MB_21132-00-20R.html


:roll:

[HydroIT]

Um, I believe little "Jimmyz", since XS got a sample card from fxvideocards :)

[MrHydes]

Um, I believe little "Jimmyz", since XS got a sample card from fxvideocards :)

yes

Today we will be looking at the Visiontek HD 4850 512MB Video card.

First off I would like to thank FXvideocards for supplying me with a review unit, as you can imagine it hasn't been easy, but they never let that stop them before.:up:

The card: Radeon HD 4850 (http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html)

The site: http://fxvideocards.com/

Reseller ratings (platinum): http://www.resellerratings.com/store/FxVideoCards


As you probably already know from the news and leaks around the web, this card is code named "Makedon " presumably after Terry Makedon who heads up the Catalyst driver team. Yhis is a good omen for having driver support, as it would be a bad move to have a card named for you and have the drivers not work well. So far I have no way of confirming the shader count or rops, tmu's etc. so that info will be updated as it becomes avaiable.

First off some pictures:

The VisionTek box, My favorite part is on the back where it says Lifetime Warranty!!!:up: They have really stepped up where most board partners adopted the 1 YR policy of ATI.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2361/boxqn1.jpg

What's inside the box, VisionTek doesn't bundle any games or Benchmark discs nor is there any DVD trial offers like other board partners, What you do get is a clean reference design card without the often tacky stickers of the other makers. which I find to be a better look. they do however include all the connectors you would need like the DVI yo HDMI adapter, as well as a component out cable. and the usual DVI to VGA adapter. Also included is the crossfirex interconnect bridge. They also Include a PCI-E power adapter plug for the cards six pin power plug.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7097/bundleku8.jpg


Now onto the card itself. If you saw the HD3850 reference design this should look familiar to you, it is essentially the same card with a slightly different cooler,( and of course a truckload more power). It comes with UVD-2 the second generation on-chip video decoder.http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8844/frontij5.jpg

On to the back, again pretty familiar stuff here nothing earthshaking, It does BTW use the same mounting pattern as the reference 3850 so most coolers should fit fine http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5390/backpn4.jpg



Now onto the pron...lol here is the obligatory Die shot. The actually quite large chip is once again surrounded by a shield but this one looks to pose no issues with most coolers I have seen, the possible exceptions being the full cover waterblocks, but as the layout is very similar they may possible fit with some slight modification or with little contact on some ramchips.



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2817/toplessrk2.jpg

The main difference between the 3850 and 4850 visually is this vent which exits the side. to allow better airflow. instead of just bouncing it off of the i/o plate.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2690/ventpx8.jpg

The sticker of course, and this is also the area that hide the volt mod...more on that in the overclocking section:up:

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2489/stickeruo3.jpg
special thanks to jimmyz from XS

home reviews as started :toast:

[TooFast]

http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=7244


http://www.pcvonline.com/productDetails.aspx?id=7245

[hayder.master]

thanx guys good work, what about 4870 and 4870x2

[Darknova]

Do we believe a "Jimmyz from a small town in Indiana"
http://fxvideocards.com/PCI-Express-2.0-PCI-E-2.0-p-1-c-275.html
VisionTek Radeon HD 4850 with no specific product code specified and......Out of Stock......
http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html

or

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Productcode 21132-00-20R

€ 184,00
Pre-order

http://www.digicom-it.be/product/19170/Sapphire_Radeon_HD_4850_512MB_21132-00-20R.html


:roll:

Personally, I'd believe the place Jimmyz got the card from ;)

[erocker]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080616/gpuz024hb1.jpg

800sp's confirmed as far as I'm concerned.:)

[imperialreign]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080616/gpuz024hb1.jpg

800sp's confirmed as far as I'm concerned.:)

interesting!

no shader clocks, though - I thought they were supposed to be clocked independantly?

[erocker]

Yeah, I wonder what's up with that? Perhaps, for now they are just clocked faster but still locked? Hmmm....

[hayder.master]

i need to know how much rop in 4850 and 4870 please

[Darknova]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080616/gpuz024hb1.jpg

800sp's confirmed as far as I'm concerned.:)

Well there we go, hey, maybe cavalry1980 would like to comment? seen as you were adamant that it's physically impossible to get 800 shaders in there?

[btarunr]

http://img.techpowerup.org/080616/gpuz024hb1.jpg

800sp's confirmed as far as I'm concerned.:)

Funny, isn't that a rather low texture fill-rate? GPU-Z shows it's GDDR3, has to be HD4850, but the pic shows Qimonda banks....HD4870, GDDR5.

[From_Nowhere]

Twice the texture fillrate of a 3850, the pixel fillrate I don't know about.

[calvary1980]

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-news/343051-hardspell-4850-gpu-z-3dmark-vantage.html

4 days ago, from hardspell. 480SP

- Christine

[Darknova]

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-news/343051-hardspell-4850-gpu-z-3dmark-vantage.html

4 days ago, from hardspell. 480SP

- Christine

And yet it's an older version of GPU-Z.

[calvary1980]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3754/vantagextremestock2808tn4.jpg

lol, looks like jimmy went back and corrected it. pretty sure this said 800 unified yesterday now it says 480 unified. oh and look it's same version of gpu-z and memory error as the one from overclock.net

- Christine

[Darknova]

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3754/vantagextremestock2808tn4.jpg

lol, looks like jimmy went back and corrected it. says 480 unified now. oh and look it has the same memory error as the one from overclock.net

- Christine

I believe that if you look about 3 posts up in this thread, you will see that GPU-Z 0.2.4 reports it as 800SPs, GPU-Z 0.2.3 reports 480SPs.

I would believe the latest version as it's the one closest to release. Any evidence for 480SP with the latest version?

[From_Nowhere]

The launch date obviously isn't getting here fast enough...

[calvary1980]

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:3TkB8x5UpwUJ:www.amazon.com/Diamond-Radeon-4850PE3512-512MB-GDDR3/dp/B001ASJJ4Y+4850PE3512+%2Bsite:amazon.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Amazon also claims 480 Stream Processors like the other Store.


Product Description
The ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series of GPUs redefine HD Gaming. The HD 4800 series deliver a cinematic gaming experience with unprecedented performance. The powerful new TeraScale graphics will propel you deep into your gameplay with seamless frame rates and high resolutions. Enhanced anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering create striking graphics with unparalleled realism so you can max out the settings for the best experience. Advance to the next generation of HD game performance and life-like realism thanks to DirectX 10.1 capabilities and plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX¿ multi-GPU upgradeability. Watch the latest Blu-ray and HD-DVD videos in full 1080p HD ¿ and upscale beyond - without placing huge demands on your CPU. Technical Specs: ASIC: RV7000, 512MB Memory, GDDR3 Memory Configuration, 256-bit Memory Interface, Display Formats:x2 Dual Link DVI + HDTV-out with built-in HDMI, PCI Express 2.0 support, 480 Stream Processing units, Direct X 10.1 / Shader Model 4.1,OpenGL 2.0, ATI Crossfire X Multi-GPU Support for highly scalable performance (Up to four GPU support with an AMD 790FX based motherboard), High-speed 128-bit-HDR (High Dynamic Range) rendering, 55nm process technology, ATI Avivo HD Video and Display Technology, Game Physics processing capability, Up to 24X Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing, Unified Video Decoder (UVD) for Blu-ray and HD DVD, ATI PowerPlay energy conserving technology. System Requirements: AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4, PCI Express based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard, 450 Watt or greater power supply (550 Watt for ATI CrossFireX¿ with two 6-pin connectors) , 1GB of system memory, Installation software requires CD-ROM drive, DVD playback requires DVD drive, Blu-ray¿ / HD DVD playback requires Blu-ray / HD DVD drive. Comes with two DVI to VGA adapters, S Video cable, Crossfire Bridge Interconnect, Component HDTV adapter, install CD, and DVI to HDMI adapter.

- Christine

[tkpenalty]

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:3TkB8x5UpwUJ:www.amazon.com/Diamond-Radeon-4850PE3512-512MB-GDDR3/dp/B001ASJJ4Y+4850PE3512+%2Bsite:amazon.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Product Description
The ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series of GPUs redefine HD Gaming. The HD 4800 series deliver a cinematic gaming experience with unprecedented performance. The powerful new TeraScale graphics will propel you deep into your gameplay with seamless frame rates and high resolutions. Enhanced anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering create striking graphics with unparalleled realism so you can max out the settings for the best experience. Advance to the next generation of HD game performance and life-like realism thanks to DirectX 10.1 capabilities and plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX¿ multi-GPU upgradeability. Watch the latest Blu-ray and HD-DVD videos in full 1080p HD ¿ and upscale beyond - without placing huge demands on your CPU. Technical Specs: ASIC: RV7000, 512MB Memory, GDDR3 Memory Configuration, 256-bit Memory Interface, Display Formats:x2 Dual Link DVI + HDTV-out with built-in HDMI, PCI Express 2.0 support, 480 Stream Processing units, Direct X 10.1 / Shader Model 4.1,OpenGL 2.0, ATI Crossfire X Multi-GPU Support for highly scalable performance (Up to four GPU support with an AMD 790FX based motherboard), High-speed 128-bit-HDR (High Dynamic Range) rendering, 55nm process technology, ATI Avivo HD Video and Display Technology, Game Physics processing capability, Up to 24X Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing, Unified Video Decoder (UVD) for Blu-ray and HD DVD, ATI PowerPlay energy conserving technology. System Requirements: AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium 4, PCI Express based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard, 450 Watt or greater power supply (550 Watt for ATI CrossFireX¿ with two 6-pin connectors) , 1GB of system memory, Installation software requires CD-ROM drive, DVD playback requires DVD drive, Blu-ray¿ / HD DVD playback requires Blu-ray / HD DVD drive. Comes with two DVI to VGA adapters, S Video cable, Crossfire Bridge Interconnect, Component HDTV adapter, install CD, and DVI to HDMI adapter.

Amazon also claims 480 Stream Processors like the other Store.


- Christine

Err... wtf?

[calvary1980]

I don't think Amazon has a habit of being liars.

- Christine

[yogurt_21]

I don't think Amazon has a habit of being liars.

- Christine

amazon products are posted by a amazon sellers, so you're saying that joe blow is more repudable than a regular site. think of amazon as a beefed up ebay. the "powersellers" have to pay a monthly fee to be able to list new products. other than that, they're regular sellers just like you'd find on ebay. I sell on amazon all the time and I could list a product and put whatever the hell sp's I wanted to on it.

[Darknova]

I don't think Amazon has a habit of being liars.

- Christine

So who's the liar, GPU-Z (made by w1z) or Amazon?

[HTC]

So who's the liar, GPU-Z (made by w1z) or Amazon?

Considering that W1zzard already has a 4850 card:

gpuz bug i guess .. my 48xx should arrive tomorrow so new release soon

This was posted in this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=61906&page=2) topic (post #33): look @ the date it was posted on.

I would definitely say Amazon!

[Darknova]

Considering that W1zzard already has a 4850 card:



This was posted in this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=61906&page=2) topic (post #33): look @ the date it was posted on.

I would definitely say W1zzard!

Are you saing w1z is lying, or he's right? lol

[HTC]

Are you saing w1z is lying, or he's right? lol

Right, ofc.

He has this card now (that's what he led me to believe with that post, anyway) and he's the creator of GPU-Z. If his prog says 800, who am i to doubt it?

EDIT

I miss wrote what i wanted to say in my previous post, lol :slap:

EDIT #2

I've corrected it now!

[xkm1948]

800

One Thousand Times

[erocker]

I guess untill we have official confimation directly from ATi, we just don't know and isn't worth arguing about.

[dark2099]

I guess untill we have official confimation directly from ATi, we just don't know and isn't worth arguing about.

Agreed, but from seeing the 480 in GPU-Z screenies make that more believable than some random chart.

[Darknova]

Agreed, but from seeing the 480 in GPU-Z screenies make that more believable than some random chart.

The latest version of GPU-Z says 800 ;)

[dark2099]

Oh, I haven't seen that screenie yet.

[erocker]

Agreed, but from seeing the 480 in GPU-Z screenies make that more believable than some random chart.

Yes it does, yet ATi still has to confirm it. What about the talk that the shader clocks were separate?

[dark2099]

LIES, I mean like you said about the SP's only certainty is wait for an official announcement from ATI, most of the cards being tested now are probably engineering samples so probably don't have the same specs as the retail ones do.

[HydroIT]

http://www.madpixelz.net/kepfeltoltes/images/5553arch_rv770.jpeg

*cough* :)

[Megasty]

Who knows with the 800 vs 480 junk. As long as its 160 * [whatever] its all good. The 3870 was 64 * 5 so it just makes sense for the 4870 to be 160 * 5.

[EastCoasthandle]

http://www.madpixelz.net/kepfeltoltes/images/5553arch_rv770.jpeg

*cough* :)

Looks at graph 40 TMUs :wtf:??? If the 4850 has both 800SP (which I believe) and 40TMUs (which I didn't know about) it should perform much higher then what we are seeing now. Unless the 4850 is different from the 4870. Time will tell. Awaiting review.



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/23.png

[vojc]

jap 800 is the right numbero ;)
just check other rewievs on xtreme forum, u can actualy see a box.
old GPU-Z just speculate the No. of shaders, latest version has correct infos.
so 800........

[panchoman]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=840948#post840948

vote :D

[yogurt_21]

I'm going with the most optimistic vote for 800sp's and 40tmu's I mean the r700 architecture has been indevelopment for quite a while.

[jimmyz]

Do we believe a "Jimmyz from a small town in Indiana"
http://fxvideocards.com/PCI-Express-2.0-PCI-E-2.0-p-1-c-275.html
VisionTek Radeon HD 4850 with no specific product code specified and......Out of Stock......
http://fxvideocards.com/VisionTek-Radeon-HD-4850-p-16381.html

or

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 512MB
Productcode 21132-00-20R

€ 184,00
Pre-order

http://www.digicom-it.be/product/19170/Sapphire_Radeon_HD_4850_512MB_21132-00-20R.html


:roll:



LOL you guys kill me. I'm for real , ask W1zzard he has been online with me . I "loaned" him the card to get the dumps for GPU-Z 0.2.4. he will assure you the card is real. the old one would show 480 the corrected one shows the proper 800. It would be pretty tuff to fake registry dumps he is taking himself.

and yes I'm just a welder by day from a small town in Indiana. not a pro hardware guy , I do run a phase cooled quadfire rig at 4+ ghz daily and have previously held the 3850 wr.s on hwbot. I know my way around cards some.I had really no time before getting the card and posting the first part.I only rec'd the card thur. by monday morning the performance is known, the shaders confirmed, lots of rumors put to rest and I even sucsessfully v-modded it to take advantage of the obviously knee-capped performance of the card. heck 25.5k single card at only 700mhz in vista no less. that's pretty good for a 200 dollar card IMO.

[imperialreign]

LOL you guys kill me. I'm for real , ask W1zzard he has been online with me . I "loaned" him the card to get the dumps for GPU-Z 0.2.4. he will assure you the card is real. the old one would show 480 the corrected one shows the proper 800. It would be pretty tuff to fake registry dumps he is taking himself.

and yes I'm just a welder by day from a small town in Indiana. not a pro hardware guy , I do run a phase cooled quadfire rig at 4+ ghz daily and have previously held the 3850 wr.s on hwbot. I know my way around cards some.I had really no time before getting the card and posting the first part.I only rec'd the card thur. by monday morning the performance is known, the shaders confirmed, lots of rumors put to rest and I even sucsessfully v-modded it to take advantage of the obviously knee-capped performance of the card. heck 25.5k single card at only 700mhz in vista no less. that's pretty good for a 200 dollar card IMO.

damn it, the anxiety is killin meh!!

looks pretty promising, TBH :toast:

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

LOL you guys kill me. I'm for real , ask W1zzard he has been online with me . I "loaned" him the card to get the dumps for GPU-Z 0.2.4. he will assure you the card is real. the old one would show 480 the corrected one shows the proper 800. It would be pretty tuff to fake registry dumps he is taking himself.

and yes I'm just a welder by day from a small town in Indiana. not a pro hardware guy , I do run a phase cooled quadfire rig at 4+ ghz daily and have previously held the 3850 wr.s on hwbot. I know my way around cards some.I had really no time before getting the card and posting the first part.I only rec'd the card thur. by monday morning the performance is known, the shaders confirmed, lots of rumors put to rest and I even sucsessfully v-modded it to take advantage of the obviously knee-capped performance of the card. heck 25.5k single card at only 700mhz in vista no less. that's pretty good for a 200 dollar card IMO.

25.5K in what?3d mark 06?

[erocker]

That would deffinitely be in 3dMark 05

[HydroIT]

I'm guessing it should be approx 16k in 3dmark06 with that freq?

[tigger]

found this pic of a 4850(could be an R700 tho') die,i believe.niice

http://img.techpowerup.org/080617/amd_01.jpg

from here-
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3068197&postcount=2808