Speakers for Honda Accord

[flashstar]

I'm looking for 2 replacement rear speakers for a Honda Accord 1992 station wagon. The problem is that these speakers are 3.5" (I'm assuming that they're 3.5 because that is the measurement from both sides of the actual speaker part (not the metal holder with mounting holes)). They also have 4 mounting holes rather than the usual 2 for this speaker size.

Both of these speakers are 20 watts, 4 ohms resistance. The distance to the outer frame of the car from the front of the speaker cut out is 2 inches on both sides of the car. Due to the climate here, I'm wondering as well if the original speakers might have melted... :twitch:

Finally, it might be worth it to upgrade all of the speakers and front console while I'm upgrading the back ones. There are 5 speakers total, 2 front 5 inchers, 2 rear 3.5 inchers (the ones I'm replacing now), and a 6x9 inch subwoofer.

Any recommendations for an upgrade? I know that there are a ton of car savvy tpu users.

And where do I find 3.5 inch speakers with 4 mounting holes (or do I need 4 mounting holes?)? I've check at most of the major online sites and I've yet to find any 3.5 inch speakers that are designed like this. :(

Here's a picture of the speaker:

Thanks.

[imperialreign]

I'm looking for 2 replacement rear speakers for a Honda Accord 1992 station wagon. The problem is that these speakers are 3.5" (I'm assuming that they're 3.5 because that is the measurement from both sides of the actual speaker part (not the metal holder with mounting holes)). They also have 4 mounting holes rather than the usual 2 for this speaker size.

Both of these speakers are 20 watts, 4 ohms resistance. The distance to the outer frame of the car from the front of the speaker cut out is 2 inches on both sides of the car. Due to the climate here, I'm wondering as well if the original speakers might have melted... :twitch:

Finally, it might be worth it to upgrade all of the speakers and front console while I'm upgrading the back ones. There are 5 speakers total, 2 front 5 inchers, 2 rear 3.5 inchers (the ones I'm replacing now), and a 6x9 inch subwoofer.

Any recommendations for an upgrade? I know that there are a ton of car savvy tpu users.

And where do I find 3.5 inch speakers with 4 mounting holes (or do I need 4 mounting holes?)? I've check at most of the major online sites and I've yet to find any 3.5 inch speakers that are designed like this. :(

Here's a picture of the speaker:

Thanks.


looks like 4.5" - the mounting base is included in the overall speaker measurement.

[Cold Storm]

From what I'm getting at with Crutchfield its 5" (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-mNlFpNmvb7R/App/Product/Group/ProductMenu.aspx?g=400&l=C) speakers.. I don't know if I found the right model of the car or not..

[flashstar]

Where on earth do I find 4.5" speakers lol. The closest that most places have is 5 inches!

The model is a 1992 Honda Accord EX station Wagon.

@ cold storm: Crutchfield recommends 5" too but then they also list the car as having 3.5" speakers but that the ones that they have don't fit... There are 5 inchers in the front of the car.

[Cold Storm]

I don't know where to buy those.. I mean they only carry 4" then 4x6...

These? (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8696663&type=product&id=1199494465638)

[Wile E]

Where on earth do I find 4.5" speakers lol. The closest that most places have is 5 inches!

The model is a 1992 Honda Accord EX station Wagon.

@ cold storm: Crutchfield recommends 5" too but then they also list the car as having 3.5" speakers but that the ones that they have don't fit... There are 5 inchers in the front of the car.

Pull out the dremel and the tin snips. Shoehorn either 5 1/4" in there, or a 4x6" plate.

Or, just get rid of the rear speakers. (They just screw up proper imaging anyway), and spend all of your speaker budget on an absolutely killer set of Component speakers up front, and a sub.

[flashstar]

I checked and I might be able to fit a 5" into both of the back slots if I drill out some new mounting holes. It will be tight but possible. There is no way to get 5 1/2" speakers in there because I would have to cut out some of the vinyl around the speaker holes and somehow get new speaker grills that are bigger... The 4x6 has the same problem.

There is one 6x9 speaker in the back as well. If I upgrade that and upgrade the two front 5 inchers instead of getting new back ones too would I still have good sound? I'm not ready to get a real hardcore sub for a 17 year old car with 150,000 miles. ;)

Btw, thanks for the tips.

[Cold Storm]

Just tear that car apart to get the speakers you need in it! thats what I did with my old cars! But the Caddy, I keep since it has everything In it all ready! lol

[flashstar]

Just tear that car apart to get the speakers you need in it! thats what I did with my old cars! But the Caddy, I keep since it has everything In it all ready! lol

I think it might just come to that... :D

One more question though. I'm looking for a receiver that will power the new speakers but all of the speakers that I'm looking at require much more power than the $130 receivers at crutchfield. According to them, even the standard 5 1/4" speakers need up to 150 watts peak power and 30 watts continuous power while the standard receivers only supply up to 50 watts peak and 22 watts continuous. Do I need a $200-$300 receiver? And is a real component sub worth it?

[Cold Storm]

Your not all ways going to use that much watts onto your speakers.. You need to worry about continuous watts.. Peak is if your blasting that beast with everything all the way up. Most all recivers that are out power the normal.. The higher the money you spend, its just the more features you get with it. Might be the higher Continuous watts you can have, but not all the time its like that..
Component speakers are worth the money because of the fact that it doesn't have your speakers trying to do everything. It has your speakers being the bass, where it also has tweeters that control the treble... I'm not 100% on that. Its ether that, or the tweeter is the Highs, and the subs are the lows...

[Wile E]

I think it might just come to that... :D

One more question though. I'm looking for a receiver that will power the new speakers but all of the speakers that I'm looking at require much more power than the $130 receivers at crutchfield. According to them, even the standard 5 1/4" speakers need up to 150 watts peak power and 30 watts continuous power while the standard receivers only supply up to 50 watts peak and 22 watts continuous. Do I need a $200-$300 receiver? And is a real component sub worth it?
That's not what the speakers need, that's what they're capable of handling. You can run lower power thru them, and they'll work just fine.

And a component sub is worth it in many cases, because you can remove all the bass from the front speakers. They'll sound clearer at higher levels that way, and last longer. But the sub is not a necessity by any means. A single decent 10" (12" or even 15" if rap is your thing) with a modest amp in the 150-200W rms range should compliment the power output of a head unit nicely. The bass wont be crazy, but it will be well matched to your highs, for a nice balanced sound. I'll never understand those people that put a 1000W of sub in a car with an otherwise stock sound system. It sounds like shit.

RMS ratings are what is important. Peak power means nothing really. It means a component can handle a short burst at that power level, But in the process of hitting those peaks, they always sound like crap, because they are distorting.

For head units, I say look to Pioneer. They have a great, if not the greatest, bang for the buck, in terms of features.

Check this one out: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=300&i=130DEHP4UB&tp=5684

Here's a suggestion for a sub and amp:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=520&i=1081050W&tp=111
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=120&i=500MRPM450&tp=115

Then whatever speaker arrangement you decide on for the front.

[flashstar]

That's not what the speakers need, that's what they're capable of handling. You can run lower power thru them, and they'll work just fine.

And a component sub is worth it in many cases, because you can remove all the bass from the front speakers. They'll sound clearer at higher levels that way, and last longer. But the sub is not a necessity by any means. A single decent 10" (12" or even 15" if rap is your thing) with a modest amp in the 150-200W rms range should compliment the power output of a head unit nicely. The bass wont be crazy, but it will be well matched to your highs, for a nice balanced sound. I'll never understand those people that put a 1000W of sub in a car with an otherwise stock sound system. It sounds like shit.

RMS ratings are what is important. Peak power means nothing really. It means a component can handle a short burst at that power level, But in the process of hitting those peaks, they always sound like crap, because they are distorting.

For head units, I say look to Pioneer. They have a great, if not the greatest, bang for the buck, in terms of features.

Check this one out: http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=300&i=130DEHP4UB&tp=5684

Here's a suggestion for a sub and amp:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=520&i=1081050W&tp=111
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=120&i=500MRPM450&tp=115

Then whatever speaker arrangement you decide on for the front.

Wile E, do you think that I should go with this arrangement rather than just replacing the back speakers with 5-1/4" ones (I think I can fit those) as well as a new 6x9? The head unit looks like a great deal. I'm just not sure if I can find a place for the woofer (without a professional install).

I'm trying not to spend over $300 or so since the car is only worth $1600. :p I'll probably focus on getting the base audio system finished before adding a sub-woofer. What do you think about this set for the rear speakers:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=51800&i=130TSG1342&tp=97&avf=N
I only have 2" of clearance between the mounting bracket and the outer frame of the car. Hopefully I won't get too much magnetic interference with these.

Then I have the 6x9 speaker. What do you think about these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=52300&i=500SPS69C2&tp=91&avf=N
Crutchfield says that they won't fit but I'm not sure why. Other 6x9 speakers are listed as fitting.

I believe that I can probably just order another set of the 5-1/4"s that I have listed for the front two speakers. I can probably do a little dremeling there too... Is the quality ok, or do you recommend another brand/set?

I read a review that recommends using an amp with the 6x9 speaker (and maybe the 5-1/4"s too). Is it worth it?

Thanks a bunch. I totally agree that 1000 watt amps that guys with hummers use sound like shit.

I apologize for the numerous questions. :o