faulty graphics?

[saikou]

Im having trouble with my AGP X1950 Pro. recently when i play games the screen goes strange colours and the computer freezes. ive tried new drivers and reinstalling windows with no luck. can anybody help?

[A Cheese Danish]

Is it overclocked at all?

[saikou]

no never

[ShadowFold]

its overheating. Try dusting it and if that doesnt work get a better fan.

[Castiel]

Or your ATI card could be a POS.

[saikou]

already cleaned it. its a powercolor x1950 pro with Arctic cooling called acelero x2

[A Cheese Danish]

It's most likely overheating. Try to get more airflow around it and keep it clean

[saikou]

ok i let u know how it goes. thnks

[saikou]

hey i dont think its overheating. temps in the catalyst control center says everything is fine. i can windows for hours but as soon as i load up a game or dvd or anything that uses direct 3d it freezes

[3n3rgy]

I got your same problem dude but I got the saphire ( pci e ) one. from the search I did it turned out to be a bios problem. I still don't know how to update it and posted a Thread in this same forum. will let you know when I have some results ;)

[Silverel]

Didja recently get new drivers for it? There's an AGP hotfix out for the 8.5's that my 2600xt AGP is running on. Seems to work alright.

[3n3rgy]

agree , try the latest driver first. How it works for you. but unfortunately didn't help me at all :(

[CrackerJack]

what are your temps anyway?

[3n3rgy]

above 80 s :S ... when rendering they increase in from 50s to 80s s in no time . Thank god I made a very good ventilated pc otherwise I think now adays my card would be a fried one :( lol

the problem is that I cant test it any more to avoid heating it up :(

[CrackerJack]

thats way to hot for that card. mine will do the same thing at 70c, i know the pci-e had this problem becasue of the fan speeds. I don't know about the AGP's, i would edit the bios and change the fan speed. Usually they are only running around 45% peak. But at 100% you can't really tell, towards noise. But that's with a stock cooler.

[3n3rgy]

yeah ... I currently started a new thread because I didn't find a way to either update the bios or else set the fan speed to increase ( my idea for the fan was to attach it to the mobo instead of the card ) but from what I read the problem with my vga's bios goes beyond overheating :( ... well hope I find some guides that work hehe :)

[CrackerJack]

upload your bios, i'll see if it's the fan.

[3n3rgy]

upload your bios, i'll see if it's the fan.

mmm I would if I new how :( sry my dumbness

[CrackerJack]

mmm I would if I new how :( sry my dumbness

that's cool. download gpu-z and there's a option to save the bios. then once you save use winrar (or whatever) to zip the file, then upload.;)

[3n3rgy]

Darn :( ... it says "BIOS reading is not supported on your device"

However if it may help I uploaded these :

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/06/14/34.png
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/06/14/hdy.png

[CrackerJack]

oh ok, i didn't see where you said that you had a pci-e. :laugh:

give me a min, i'll just upload mine.


There the bios, Sapphire 1950pro 256mb Fan Fix. I hope this helps. My card runs about 11c cooler at 100% just at idle. I never have problems playing games.
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[spud107]

try downclocking the memory 10mhz or so, i used ati tray tools for this,

[3n3rgy]

all I really wish is to find a way to update the bios to : SA99902.007 and I found a tool online to manage the fan controller for this driver but i still didn't touch it to see weather it solves the problem by itself. I don't really like to mess with clocks.

tyt Cracker Jack and thanks for your help :)

[3n3rgy]

oh ok, i didn't see where you said that you had a pci-e. :laugh:

give me a min, i'll just upload mine.


There the bios, Sapphire 1950pro 256mb Fan Fix. I hope this helps. My card runs about 11c cooler at 100% just at idle. I never have problems playing games.
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Yeah I downloaded that one :) . Do you have any idea on how I could update my card's bios ?? The problem is that I don't have floppy drive :S

btw RaBit v2.20 is tool I found to hack the bios. it's quit cool :D ... but for now I am going to stick to saphir's default.

[CrackerJack]

that's a edit bios that i did. (rabit) use the link to find out how to use atiflash.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57750&highlight=atiflash

[3n3rgy]

that's a edit bios that i did. (rabit) use the link to find out how to use atiflash.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=57750&highlight=atiflash

Holy krep man !!!! ur great :D Thanks man :D

[3n3rgy]

$£$£~##### "@#@# .... :( darn ... when i tried to do the update it said mis match and I used the -f comand ... guess what :( (f@# up my vga :( )

just thrown away 200 euros :mad: :ohwell: :(

anything I can do from here ? :respect:


Hey :D I redone all the comands without seeing anything and waited a few seconds ... IT WORKD :D :D :D now i need to check on which vga bios i am running to see wether the update was done :D : http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/06/14/2r9.png

wooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooo :D :D

[CrackerJack]

yeah the 1950 can be kinda wierd. I flash my one time, went all wrong. Then i flash it with a 1950 256mb (i've got a 512mb) and it work. But for some reason the 512mb bios wouldn't flash or work for nothing. drove me insane. is it working better for you?

[3n3rgy]

Darn :( I'm going crazy :S ... I am having the same symptoms :( ... as soon as rendering starts the systems goes to black out ... and I have restart.

all drivers are up to date ... all bios up to date ... I donno ... :(

[saikou]

i got these alternative drivers from omega. they worked on cod 4 for a while then it died like before. it the same it was before now

[3n3rgy]

Guys ... I think I found a solution !!!

I was using my hiper Type R gfx card power cord and while doing some tests I decided to try the one that saphire provided ... the difference is that the hiper has 6 cables and the provided one only has 3 ...

Don't ask me why or how but on the one that sphire provided (3 cables only and you attach it to a normal 4 pin power from the psu ) the card seems to run smooth and great ... :D

btw ... this worked only after I updated the bios to the one Saphire provided SA99902.007 and followed Jack's tutorial :)

Any one has any idea on what or why this change made so much difference ?

This is the cable I used http://xtreview.com/images/x1950-pro-agp_13.jpg

[driver66]

Guys ... I think I found a solution !!!

I was using my hiper Type R gfx card power cord and while doing some tests I decided to try the one that saphire provided ... the difference is that the hiper has 6 cables and the provided one only has 3 ...

Don't ask me why or how but on the one that sphire provided (3 cables only and you attach it to a normal 4 pin power from the psu ) the card seems to run smooth and great ... :D

btw ... this worked only after I updated the bios to the one Saphire provided SA99902.007 and followed Jack's tutorial :)

Any one has any idea on what or why this change made so much difference ?

This is the cable I used http://xtreview.com/images/x1950-pro-agp_13.jpg

The 12v rail on your psu probably wasnt supplying enough power? Bad plug?
Those hiper Type R psu are not known to be that great. :toast:
Glad ya figured it out :D

[3n3rgy]

Last year I read some reviews all of them were positive regarding the Type R ... well :toast: hope this solution works for some one else :)

Apart from all the hassle I found this forum that I consider a very good one :D with a lot of technical people . Something good turned out from my bad experience :D

[kyle2020]

above 80 s :S ... when rendering they increase in from 50s to 80s s in no time . Thank god I made a very good ventilated pc otherwise I think now adays my card would be a fried one :( lol

the problem is that I cant test it any more to avoid heating it up :(

WAY too hot - that doesnt even sound characteristic of an Accelero :wtf: mine stays around 35 on idle and goes to 50 on load :wtf:

Im confused, must be a poorly ventilated pc?

[3n3rgy]

WAY too hot - that doesnt even sound characteristic of an Accelero :wtf: mine stays around 35 on idle and goes to 50 on load :wtf:

Im confused, must be a poorly ventilated pc?


Nope :S the fan was not spinning when rendering ... that was all the problem ... thats why I had to update the card's bios ... now everything is smooth :D 60 - 75 degrees after 7 hrs of rendering (using ati tool) 82 degrees but that's a standard and the card was developed to work under such temperatures from what I found.

I also did a 2 hour Scan for artifacts and everything went smooth with no errors :)

I pretty happy with this new BIOS

[kyle2020]

Glad you solved your problem :D And i bet your glad you joined TPU :D haha.

Im still a little concerned about those temps, it may not produce artifacts BUT it will be killing the card. Id try and solve that issue next.

'Grats again anyway :)

[3n3rgy]

Glad you solved your problem :D And i bet your glad you joined TPU :D haha.

Im still a little concerned about those temps, it may not produce artifacts BUT it will be killing the card. Id try and solve that issue next.

'Grats again anyway :)

DEFINITELY im super glad I joined TPU :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :toast:

yep your right , 80s are too high :

http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/video/12/temperatura.png

First I'll try to change the thermal paste , I'll use MX 2 ... it reduced around 10 degrees on my core 2 duo. If that doen't work I guess I'll buy a new heat sink fan for my card but soon I'll upgrade to a HD 3XXX series :D but I'm still thinking about it. The HD4XXX sounds to be a bargain range of cards :)

[kyle2020]

DEFINITELY im super glad I joined TPU :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :toast:

yep your right , 80s are too high :

http://www.hwupgrade.com/articles/video/12/temperatura.png

First I'll try to change the thermal paste , I'll use MX 2 ... it reduced around 10 degrees on my core 2 duo. If that doen't work I guess I'll buy a new heat sink fan for my card but soon I'll upgrade to a HD 3XXX series :D but I'm still thinking about it. The HD4XXX sounds to be a bargain range of cards :)

As long as it doesnt melt itself i cant see the major harm in running it until upgrade.

Welcome to TPU then! :D

[3n3rgy]

As long as it doesnt melt itself i cant see the major harm in running it until upgrade.

Welcome to TPU then! :D

Thanks dude :D

[kyle2020]

No problem mate ;)

Now get some PC specs up before i beat you with your George Foreman Grill of a graphics card! :laugh:

[3n3rgy]

No problem mate ;)

Now get some PC specs up before i beat you with your George Foreman Grill of a graphics card! :laugh:

How do I ??

[kyle2020]

How do I ??

go into your CP, and then go to "edit your system specs" on the left hand side. 2nd item down.

[CrackerJack]

Now that it seems we got 3n3rgy issue solved. Now how about saikou?

[3n3rgy]

Now that it seems we got 3n3rgy issue solved. Now how about saikou?

I do suggest to update the bios , and then try to use the provided cable ... my thinking is that on 6 rails the power consumption of the vga is different from the 3 rail one and this card was developed to work on the 3 rail one.

Giving it a try wouldn't cost anything.

What do you think guys ?

[p_o_s_pc]

hey i dont think its overheating. temps in the catalyst control center says everything is fine. i can windows for hours but as soon as i load up a game or dvd or anything that uses direct 3d it freezes

I had the same problem but with a HIS pci-E. I contacted the support and did everything they wanted me to and nothing helped. So i sent it back to the egg for a refund and got a nvidia card\


EDIT:could have something to do with the PSU i HAD a Hiper Type-R when i had the x1950pro a few times when i started playing a game the PSU would just turn its self off and i had the same problems that you are having

[3n3rgy]

Could be ... and I think so too ...
saikou did you try anything or have any news ?

[saikou]

nah im just gonna send mine back anyone know what the warranty is on an agp powercolor x1950 pro?