View Full Version : My Dell is being a Dell!
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 12:21 AM
I hope this is in the right section
My computer is a Dell Dimension E310
Intel Pentium 4 HT, 230W PSU, 2GB RAM, Windows XP Media Center 2004, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, Intel GMA900, 13 Total USB Ports
Ok, I have this weird problem with my Dell
I have a 7 USB Hub, and 6 USB Ports on my Dell
Sometimes when i unplug my USB Hub on accident it, flips out and when when i switch tabs or something, switch windows or whatever, my computer comes up with a Blue Screen of Death.
For your info...This is Windows XP Media Center,
So i though hmm. maybe my hub is dieing? So it finaly worked one day lol
And i install Ubuntu on my System.
Then a couple days later it won't boot my Keyboard and Mouse. So i couldnt switch to windows
So then I though plugging in the keyboard into the USB Ports on the Computer it self will do the trick,,,,
WRONG! It says Keyboard Failure and my Keyboard's lights don't come on
The Keyboard is a Microsoft Pro Digital Keyboard that i got a thrift shop for $5
This started in February about a month after i got my keyboard
So i called Dell to see if they can help me. They told me to do some Diagnostics testing...that found no problem. then the lady told me to Reformat thinking it was a virus or something messed with the OS.
That did not help either... After about a Week it still crashed my system...
So now I am Stuck in UBUNTU. and my dell wont boot my keyboard. Also I have tried It with other keyboards....still "Keyboard Failure"
Is it my Keyboard or a bug or a my USBs are screwed over? Please help me...I want to go back to windows....It has my music :( xD:D
Also it says "USB hub Malfunctioned" then it crashes. It does it for the USB ports in the back of the computer. (When i plugged in my External HDD.) which my dell doesn't recognize right now... Help me please
bundyrum&coke
06-24-2008, 12:40 AM
Are you saying that the keyboard works fine with Ubantu but not XP?
Can you try booting with no USB plugged into your system? i.e try PS2 keyboard etc.
If you can get it working like this, then try each USB device one by one until you find what item might be causing the problems.
Unfortunately, there are lots of possible causes and I don't know many answers.
I guess it's possible that there were too many USB devices taking power and you have damaged the motherboard. Also remotely possible that a BIOS setting can fix this.
Maybe someone else has better suggestions.
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 12:45 AM
Are you saying that the keyboard works fine with Ubantu but not XP?
Can you try booting with no USB plugged into your system? i.e try PS2 keyboard etc.
If you can get it working like this, then try each USB device one by one until you find what item might be causing the problems.
Unfortunately, there are lots of possible causes and I don't know many answers.
I guess it's possible that there were too many USB devices taking power and you have damaged the motherboard. Also remotely possible that a BIOS setting can fix this.
Maybe someone else has better suggestions.
Umm No i am saying the Keyboard is not booting up with BIOS....
I only have USB no PS2 on this Machine (It is a budget machine lol)
I can't use my keyboard in boot-up so i cant get to the BIOS Setup.
Ill Try booting with no USB.
Since there is the UBUNTU Boot manager, and Ubuntu is first, and my keyboard is not booted with BIOS I can not go down to Windows.
Edit: Removing the USBs worked then it failed again? It still wouldnt let me go to windows :(
bundyrum&coke
06-24-2008, 06:57 AM
Maybe you need to find a ps2 keyboard. They are even older than your system!. Almost any really old machine will use them - steal/borrow one for a try.
Im stating the obvious but your problem cant be fixed without a kb. If you can get the system running, then you can start to find what USB device is killing your system (if thats the prob).
UnkAsn93
06-24-2008, 07:02 AM
Maybe all of his USB ports are going bad? This happened to me, on an OLD Abit AT7..all USB.
look @ the motherboard and see if any capacitors are leaking/bulging. If so, replace them, and maybe that'll work.
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 07:39 AM
Maybe you need to find a ps2 keyboard. They are even older than your system!. Almost any really old machine will use them - steal/borrow one for a try.
Im stating the obvious but your problem cant be fixed without a kb. If you can get the system running, then you can start to find what USB device is killing your system (if thats the prob).
Umm, my computer doesnt have PS2 ports...
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 07:46 AM
Maybe all of his USB ports are going bad? This happened to me, on an OLD Abit AT7..all USB.
look @ the motherboard and see if any capacitors are leaking/bulging. If so, replace them, and maybe that'll work.
Now only if i knew where to get capacitors and knew what they are??
Error 404
06-24-2008, 09:27 AM
Umm, my computer doesnt have PS2 ports...
You sure? It should, even if it is a budget PC: my Dell has PS/2 ports, and it has similar specs.
If not, then try using a USB PCI card, if you can get hold of one.
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 06:37 PM
You sure? It should, even if it is a budget PC: my Dell has PS/2 ports, and it has similar specs.
If not, then try using a USB PCI card, if you can get hold of one.
I got a picture
http://img.techpowerup.org/080624/IMG_1112.jpg:confused:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080624/IMG_1109.jpg:confused:
200-240W? or 230W?
Snake05
06-24-2008, 09:12 PM
230W Peak. Thats odd about the PS2 ports. Have you tried a secondary USB keyboard yet?
EDIT: What model Dell is that?
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 09:44 PM
230W Peak. Thats odd about the PS2 ports. Have you tried a secondary USB keyboard yet?
EDIT: What model Dell is that?
Yes i have, no luck there either
EDIT: Dell Dimension E310 from 2006
candle_86
06-24-2008, 10:00 PM
hmm get a USB card from the local shop see if that helps if not your SOL man, sorry
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 10:00 PM
OMFG not plugging in the back USB things made my keyboard boot with my computer :o
It is one of the back USB Ports >_>
bundyrum&coke
06-24-2008, 10:57 PM
QUOTE=NeotonicDragon3;854381]OMFG not plugging in the back USB things made my keyboard boot with my computer :o
It is one of the back USB Ports >_>[/QUOTE]
:toast:
Edit: I dont know how many USB devices you can run off one port or whether your hub is externally powered but you should consider that this problem may have been caused through excessive power drain. Take it a bit easier on your remaining USB ports!
UnkAsn93
06-24-2008, 11:03 PM
Now only if i knew where to get capacitors and knew what they are??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
http://www.howstuffworks.com/capacitor.htm - a simpler one
here's a picture
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i303/30328_4lo.jpg
Basically, you want to make sure your capacitors don't look like the ones that are arrowed to in red. Note: Not all capacitors look the same, IE, colors, size.
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 11:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor
http://www.howstuffworks.com/capacitor.htm - a simpler one
here's a picture
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i303/30328_4lo.jpg
Basically, you want to make sure your capacitors don't look like the ones that are arrowed to in red. Note: Not all capacitors look the same, IE, colors, size.
They look normal..they all have random blue shit on them..since i got machine..So i know that is not a broken Capacitor. it looks normal to me.
NeotonicDragon3
06-24-2008, 11:12 PM
QUOTE=NeotonicDragon3;854381]OMFG not plugging in the back USB things made my keyboard boot with my computer :o
It is one of the back USB Ports >_>
:toast:
Edit: I dont know how many USB devices you can run off one port or whether your hub is externally powered but you should consider that this problem may have been caused through excessive power drain. Take it a bit easier on your remaining USB ports![/QUOTE]
The 7 Port USB Hub has a Power supply on it. but i think i now have 4 or 5 avalible that are working properly :D
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 12:27 AM
Something new/weird that happened!
Ok i got back to windows and whatnot. then didnt unplug any USB Devices.
So then i plug my headphones into the Jack. then i moved my mouse and whabam! Blue Screen of Death!
Then it wouldn't boot my keyboard or any usb device at BIOS.
What is going on?
Error 404
06-25-2008, 01:31 AM
By the looks of it, your motherboard is failing, or at least something serious has happened to it.
Can you try resetting your BIOS? That might help. If it doesn't work, you might want to consider replaceing your motherboard.
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 01:57 AM
By the looks of it, your motherboard is failing, or at least something serious has happened to it.
Can you try resetting your BIOS? That might help. If it doesn't work, you might want to consider replaceing your motherboard.
Ok How do i do both?
bundyrum&coke
06-25-2008, 09:50 AM
To reset bios, check your manual. It may have some instructions on how to do this. You are probably looking for a small jumper that needs moving to another set of pins. It should also be marked on the motherboard (in very small writing).
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 07:08 PM
To reset bios, check your manual. It may have some instructions on how to do this. You are probably looking for a small jumper that needs moving to another set of pins. It should also be marked on the motherboard (in very small writing).
LOL i never got a manual :( But they have one online.
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 07:13 PM
is it known as
clear CMOS jumper
(RTCRST)?
I reset ther BIOS!.....
Now it says
"Floppy Disklette seek failure
Keyboard Failure
Strike F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility"
I don't have a floppy drive... and my keyboard wont work on boot up!
I locked my self out basically!
dannylill1981
06-25-2008, 07:19 PM
defiantely sounds like the motherboard is dyeing, or at least damaged, should consider replacing at some point soon......
kyle2020
06-25-2008, 07:23 PM
LOL i never got a manual :( But they have one online.
either find out how to do it in the manual or heres a picture i made for you:
http://i29.tinypic.com/5bb9xz.jpg
Basically your looking for those 2 things - the motherboards battery and the clear cmos (depicted as CLR_CMS on my old motherboard) jumpers.
Number one is the jumper
Number two is the battery.
Youll want to remove the battery, then move the jumper. e.g say there are 3 pins in a row, numbered 1 - 2 - 3. The plastic cap is covering pins 2 - 3, so you will want to remove the plastic cap and put it on pins 1 - 2. you see? leave it like this for about 10 seconds, then replace the cap back to its original position on the pins and replace your battery.
kyle2020
06-25-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn it appears i was too late. Quick! Back to the bat cave! Ner ner ler ner!
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Damn it appears i was too late. Quick! Back to the bat cave! Ner ner ler ner!
LOL opps
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 07:39 PM
Basically reading the diagonistics lights on my dell it shows me
The Dell Diagnostics is running a test, or a device on the system board may be faulty or incorrectly installed. and Another failure has occurred.
Isnt that useful...? Kindof not!
razaron
06-25-2008, 07:41 PM
:eek:what no ps/2, my fairly new pc (check spec) has ps/2 ports
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 07:47 PM
:eek:what no ps/2, my fairly new pc (check spec) has ps/2 ports
LOL my eMachine has PS/2 Ports
NeotonicDragon3
06-25-2008, 08:02 PM
its working currently...the keyboard booted for once...now i hope it keeps on workin :)
The date and time is fucked...but thats easy to change
UnkAsn93
06-26-2008, 04:49 AM
So it just worked out of randomness? It's a motherboard issue, and it's probably dying.
Error 404
06-26-2008, 05:50 AM
Yep, motherboard is definately going to go.
NeotonicDragon, is your CPU an LGA 478 or LGA 775?
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 01:22 AM
Yep, motherboard is definately going to go.
NeotonicDragon, is your CPU an LGA 478 or LGA 775?
LGA 775
Intel Pentium 4 HT 2.8ghz 521
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 01:22 AM
So it just worked out of randomness? It's a motherboard issue, and it's probably dying.
Good To know...:shadedshu
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 01:36 AM
Now it is just crashing with the Blue Screen of Death...
zithe
06-27-2008, 01:36 AM
I guess it's possible that there were too many USB devices taking power and you have damaged the motherboard. Also remotely possible that a BIOS setting can fix this.
Maybe someone else has better suggestions.
Hubs are plugged into the wall. Only 1 USB port would get power from to PC on a hub.
I'd consider getting a PS/2 keyboard like other people have said. I've always used them since I've never seen a point in getting a USB keyboard. XD
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 01:56 AM
Hubs are plugged into the wall. Only 1 USB port would get power from to PC on a hub.
I'd consider getting a PS/2 keyboard like other people have said. I've always used them since I've never seen a point in getting a USB keyboard. XD
I would do that if I had PS/2 Ports >_<
bundyrum&coke
06-27-2008, 03:34 AM
have another go at reseting your bios. leave the battery out for 30 minutes as well.
Also, before you send this one to the graveyard, try a different USB keyboard and mouse.
zithe
06-27-2008, 03:51 AM
You should be happy. My motherboard is backwards. It has PS/2 ports, they work fine, but it just doesn't like USB keyboards. o.o'
No ps/2 ports? Weird...
Error 404
06-27-2008, 07:56 AM
Ok, you should look at getting a new motherboard.
Something like these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135208R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153056R
The second one is good for if you want to upgrade your other parts later, such as a new CPU or better graphics cards!
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 08:19 AM
Ok, you should look at getting a new motherboard.
Something like these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135208R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813153056R
The second one is good for if you want to upgrade your other parts later, such as a new CPU or better graphics cards!
Errr...1 problem...my case is BTX and those motherboards are ATX
NeotonicDragon3
06-27-2008, 08:24 AM
have another go at reseting your bios. leave the battery out for 30 minutes as well.
Also, before you send this one to the graveyard, try a different USB keyboard and mouse.
Ull try that when i get home tommarrow..now i need to steal my dads keyboard and mouse lol.
also now it works..the keyboard boots with BIOS. its just my computer randomly crashes with the BSOD
Error 404
06-27-2008, 09:08 AM
Errr...1 problem...my case is BTX and those motherboards are ATX
Lol, if you're capable, you could get another case and transfer your parts into that: dell cases in the P4 era are dreadful when it comes to cooling... you'd be doing your hardware a favour by putting it in a proper case: also, with a new mobo you'd be able to OC your hardware (if you wanted to), or at least use it to its full potential.
If you dont have the money, then you'll be looking at a BSoD until you do.
NeotonicDragon3
06-28-2008, 02:13 AM
Lol, if you're capable, you could get another case and transfer your parts into that: dell cases in the P4 era are dreadful when it comes to cooling... you'd be doing your hardware a favour by putting it in a proper case: also, with a new mobo you'd be able to OC your hardware (if you wanted to), or at least use it to its full potential.
If you dont have the money, then you'll be looking at a BSoD until you do.
or untill it dies...
NeotonicDragon3
06-30-2008, 05:43 AM
Its dead....It can barely keep up without BSODing...
bundyrum&coke
06-30-2008, 08:29 AM
Neotonic Dragon.....it's like torture watching your computer slowly die.....RIP now.:cry:
Soon we will see the new Neotonic Dragon?:toast:Risen from the ashes:rockout:
NeotonicDragon3
06-30-2008, 08:13 PM
Neotonic Dragon.....it's like torture watching your computer slowly die.....RIP now.:cry:
Soon we will see the new Neotonic Dragon?:toast:Risen from the ashes:rockout:
It had a hard 2 year life :(
Now i need to find a job...
NeotonicDragon3
07-01-2008, 07:03 AM
It's Alive and working :o but crashes when i move or touch the USB ports or any usb connection
Error 404
07-01-2008, 09:00 AM
You'd be wise to have a look at those links I gave you, or even the bargain bin in your nearest PC store...
Your mobo is seriously screwed.
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