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Tomtheman21
07-15-2008, 12:36 AM
Hey all, I'm new to these forum's so I was wondering if you could give me some advice on my new PC I'm building. I am not very smart when it comes to the technical information about computer parts, but I do know some things. My rig includes,
Case
NZXT LEXA BlackLine Black Steel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146038
Hard Drive
Western Digital Caviar SE WD5000AAJS 500GB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136178
Power Supply
Rosewill RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182069
CD-ROM
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135168
RAM
OCZ Reaper HPC 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227239
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
MOBO
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024
CPU Cooler
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
Video Card
XFX PVT98FYDDU GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) XXX 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150292
Operating System
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116490


I was planning on tri SlI'ing the 9800 GTX XXX, but seeing as ATI's forcing of Nividia's prices to lower on the GTX 280, I had second thoughts. I am thinking about getting the 4870x2 when it comes out, but I wasn't sure if the 780i mobo that i selected would support crossfire, any suggestions? I will also be getting in the future, 2 more sticks of RAM and a liquid cooling system. I was thinking about the KOOLANCE EX2-750BK. Let me know what you think.


Thanks,
Tom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835127006&Tpk=koolance
(link for cooling system)

msarp
07-15-2008, 01:01 AM
drop the case and get the Antec 900. Great cooling and a very popular case! $119.99 + $40.00 Rebate and Free shipping. Total after rebate= $79.99 !

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB: excellent HD and Fast!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX:Great PS , Modular, and a 5 year warranty. $164.99 W/ $25.00 rebate & free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139002

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 : this is all you need. $79.00 FREE SHIPPING

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

I would go with the single 4870X2 and maybe a Good crossfire motherboard like ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38. If you are a multitasking freak , then the q6600 is a good choice otherwise I would got with the E8400. I had a Q6600 on water and I got sick of the maintenance. And I also did not multitask much so I got a E8400 and a Thermalright 120 ultra xtreme. And wow, 4.0 ghz, with temps idle around 37/38 c and load 45/46c in my AntecP182.
Hope this helps

[I.R.A]_FBi
07-15-2008, 01:10 AM
GET RID OF THE ROSEWILL psu.

PrudentPrincess
07-15-2008, 01:39 AM
_FBi;885529']GET RID OF THE ROSEWILL psu.

CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

I choose this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153038

[I.R.A]_FBi
07-15-2008, 01:42 AM
sorry never meant to shout

das müffin mann
07-15-2008, 01:43 AM
i would put a 4870 in if you could or if you want to spring for it a 4870x2 (when it comes out) right now they cant be beat price/performance- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102748

also ditch the rosewill psu, i would go for a corsair, thermaltake, or maybe ocz (all great companies)- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

and fyi if you want some bitching thermal paste get some MX2- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020

whats your overall budget?

Tomtheman21
07-15-2008, 01:45 AM
I would go with the single 4870X2 and maybe a Good crossfire motherboard like ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38. If you are a multitasking freak , then the q6600 is a good choice otherwise I would got with the E8400. I had a Q6600 on water and I got sick of the maintenance. And I also did not multitask much so I got a E8400 and a Thermalright 120 ultra xtreme. And wow, 4.0 ghz, with temps idle around 37/38 c and load 45/46c in my AntecP182.
Hope this helps

Why would you go with a single? if I could run 2 why not? I changed my setup with the antec 900, why do you use the antecP182? is it better than the 900? Where can I buy the Thermalright 123 ultra extreme, Its not on Newegg.com
Thanks

Master_of_Time
07-15-2008, 01:52 AM
It's an nVidia chipset. How do you expect it to support Crossfire? :confused: That's only for Intel chipsets. And if you plan to overclock a quad cpu it just won't happen on a nVidia board. Get a nice X48 board, overclock your Q6600 and if you get a 4870X2 you can do Crossfire down the road, but you'll need at least an 800W PSU (OC'ed Quad + 2x 4870X2 = Heavy power draw) I have a Q6600 G0 and a 780i board and it's s**t for overclocking quads. If you're not overclocking you won't need water cooling. :toast:

Megasty
07-15-2008, 01:56 AM
Just don't go with tri-9800GTXs. My bro has them & the 3rd GPU does hardly anything. A single 4870x2 will destroy them anyway. That Koolance thing is 'underkill', it doesn't work for what its worth.

DonInKansas
07-15-2008, 01:59 AM
Why 32 Bit OS? Go 64 if you're going Vista......

Tomtheman21
07-15-2008, 03:26 AM
Why 32 Bit OS? Go 64 if you're going Vista......

I am getting the 32 bit because a friend of mine told me 64 bit was a waste, if you can explain to me how 64 is better than 32 i will get it. I would like to add the Thermalright 120 ultra extreme, if anyone else can find me a decent link for it.

My overall budget is $1500 right now, with a few changes I've made thanks to all of your help, my price right now is $1385.89 via newegg.com
Setup
Antec 900 =$119.99-$40.00(mail in rebate)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB =$89.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 =$79.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V =$129.99-$20.00(mail in rebate)
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R =$26.99
SAPPHIRE 100243L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 =$304.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 =$6.99
ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard =$224.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz =$189.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit =$179.99
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler =$31.99

Thanks again

farlex85
07-15-2008, 03:40 AM
32 bit OS can only use ~3.5gb of ram total. If your doing tri-sli or tri-fire that's 1.5gb right there, leaving only 2gb for ram. If you want all of your memory to be used, get 64 bit. It can't be a waste, it's the same price.

[I.R.A]_FBi
07-15-2008, 03:42 AM
get the 64 bit .. opens ram possibilities.

get this cpu cooler as well

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

also this 4870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113

Thermopylae_480
07-15-2008, 03:58 AM
My advice is to not insult yourself in your thread title, rather I would choose a title that more accurately describes your thread topic. I've taken the liberty of changing your title.

Welcome to TPU!

[I.R.A]_FBi
07-15-2008, 03:58 AM
My advice is to not insult yourself in your thread title, rather I would choose a title that more accurately describes your thread topic. I've taken the liberty of changing your title.


any other advice?

Thermopylae_480
07-15-2008, 04:10 AM
_FBi;885685']any other advice?

Yes, love thy neighbor... and stay on topic :) .

Tomtheman21
07-15-2008, 04:27 AM
_FBi;885676']get the 64 bit .. opens ram possibilities.

get this cpu cooler as well

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003

also this 4870

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113

Thanks man new setup HO!!!!! (Thundercats reference FTW)

Setup
Antec 900 =$119.99-$40.00(mail in rebate)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB =$89.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 =$79.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V =$129.99-$20.00(mail in rebate)
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R =$26.99
VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 =$294.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 =$6.99
ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard =$224.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz =$189.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit =$179.99
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle =$36.99-$10.00(mail in rebate)

new total= $1380.89

My advice is to not insult yourself in your thread title, rather I would choose a title that more accurately describes your thread topic. I've taken the liberty of changing your title.

Welcome to TPU!

Will do, thanks for the welcoming party :respect:

farlex85
07-15-2008, 04:48 AM
Still stickin w/ the 32-bit?, your going to be very ram limited if you do, considering your already going to have 4.5gb (vram+mem) and 32-bit can't even address that. Also, Ultimate is largely a waste for the home user, extra $75 for features most never use (basically a few of the business functions), home premium is usually enough. Check and see if you are going to use the extra stuff in Ultimate, b/c I would wager you won't.

Tomtheman21
07-15-2008, 04:51 AM
Still stickin w/ the 32-bit?, your going to be very ram limited if you do, considering your already going to have 4.5gb (vram+mem) and 32-bit can't even address that. Also, Ultimate is largely a waste for the home user, extra $75 for features most never use (basically a few of the business functions), home premium is usually enough. Check and see if you are going to use the extra stuff in Ultimate, b/c I would wager you won't.

Thanks, I forgot to change that

Setup
Antec 900 =$119.99-$40.00(mail in rebate)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB =$89.99
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 =$79.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V =$129.99-$20.00(mail in rebate)
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R =$26.99
VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 =$294.99
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 =$6.99
ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard =$224.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz =$189.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit =$179.99
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle =$36.99-$10.00(mail in rebate)

new total= $1310.89

msarp
07-15-2008, 03:01 PM
I love your new build. 1 thing, Get the Thermalright ultrs 120 xtreme ! You will not be sorry. And it is much easier to install than the XIGMATEK.

http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=4185

What is the difference between Ultra-120 eXtreme and TRUE Black 120?The black is awesome!


Answer :
The main differences between Ultra-120 eXtreme and TRUE Black 120 are in the color and additional accessories. More specifically, TRUE Black 120 includes the new Chill Factor 2, the upgraded version of the original thermal paste, the Chill Factor. It also has an extra set of fan wire clips for a push-pull, two fan installation. Performance is the same for both in single fan mode.

and this fan !
http://www.jab-tech.com/Scythe-S-Flex-Fan-SFF21F-pr-3257.htmlGood choice with the VisionTek. I have one.!

as for why I use the P182, I wanted a QUITE Case and it fills the bill. It is great looking, has great cooling and a lot of room inside. Good cable management.