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CashComp
07-25-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm trying out my first build and I have so far picked out:
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD1600AAJB Caviar SE 160GB Hard Drive - 7200, 8MB, ATA-100 EIDE, OEM
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI Motherboard - T1 Version, NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express, SLI, Dual Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0 & Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID
Processer: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor BX80570E8400 - 3.0GHz, 6MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Wolfdale, Dual-Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan
Case: NZXT ALP-001 Alpha ATX Mid-Tower Case - Clear Side, Front USB, Audio, eSATA Ports
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9250 (I dont know much of the info for this, but it's a PCI slot and runs WoW well, and I have the box and manual I think, so if you need more info just say so.)
RAM: (Suggestions please...)
Sound card: I dont know if I need one.
OS: Windows XP Home edition.:cool:
Power supply: Thats my problem...
I am kinda confused with SATA and ATA right now. Are they completely different or are they the same with a miniscule difference. Also, I'm not sure of what else I require for my first build. My budget right now is around $600. :ohwell:. Any suggestions/changes/information is greatly appreciated :respect:
Cuzza
07-25-2008, 08:35 PM
first up, i hope you are planning to upgrade that video card, because it will work but all the rest is a bit of a waste! especially if all you want to do is run WoW, which you don't need anywhere near as much power for.
so if you need help, we really need to know what you intend to use this thing for.
JoshBrunelle
07-25-2008, 08:48 PM
Bump your CPU and mobo down a notch and get a real graphics card, running a 9000 series redeon would be a waste on that stuff. Free up $100 dollars or so and get an 8600 gt or maybe a 8800gt.
pepsi71ocean
07-25-2008, 09:02 PM
first thing i see is i would not suggest a 45nm on a 680i board, it can be done tho. Second go with the A1 or A2 rev not the t1 series. the A1's and A2's have lifetime warranties while the T1 series do not. Your 680i is rock stable if you get a good mobo, if its junk you will know. I used to run the 680i series, if you need help i could lend you a hand over clocking it.
As for your HDD, WD is a great hdd maker next to Seagate, but i would suggest either a 16 or a 32MB cache Hard drive that has SATA not IDE, it makes a world of difference.
I would say Crucial Ballistix would do you good. When you get them run mem test through them to make sutre there solid.
Your PSU should be based around your system, if your looking for a 8800 series card or above ide say 700Watts should be more than enough. make sure your +12v rail is strong enough to power your graphics card and the rest of your computer as well.
What kind of heat sink are you planning on using?
farid
07-25-2008, 09:59 PM
How much is your budget for this build dude?
Damian^
07-25-2008, 11:57 PM
Bump your CPU and mobo down a notch and get a real graphics card, running a 9000 series redeon would be a waste on that stuff. Free up $100 dollars or so and get an 8600 gt or maybe a 8800gt.
Bump down??? :wtf:
I agree it would be a waste for your system not to mention it would probably create a bottleneck as well (more then likely that card probably has an AGP slot though)
If you only play Wow just buy a 3650:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726
As for the power supply, i recommend the Antec Earthwatts 430w PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
Also im not to sure but i think you would need a BIOS update if you went with the 680i and the E8400. I have also read that the 680i chipset and a 45nm processor is not a good mix.
Besides there no real reason for go with the 680i and spending money on it with a card like that. Go for a cheap P45 motherboard Like the MSI P45 Neo3-Fr
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130180
If you only play Wow why not just buy an E7200 would save you about $50 too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
CashComp
07-26-2008, 12:21 AM
To Damian, so you did not mention anything about my hard drive, is it fine as it is?
And the video card (Radeon 9250) is a PCI slot.
To Fraid: My budget is around $600.
And to pepsi: What exactally is a heatsink and wouldnt it come with the processer? Or is that just a fan.
ShadowFold
07-26-2008, 12:28 AM
Bump down??? :wtf:
I agree it would be a waste for your system not to mention it would probably create a bottleneck as well (more then likely that card probably has an AGP slot though)
If you only play Wow just buy a 3650:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726
As for the power supply, i recommend the Antec Earthwatts 430w PSU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
Also im not to sure but i think you would need a BIOS update if you went with the 680i and the E8400. I have also read that the 680i chipset and a 45nm processor is not a good mix.
Besides there no real reason for go with the 680i and spending money on it with a card like that. Go for a cheap P45 motherboard Like the MSI P45 Neo3-Fr
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130180
If you only play Wow why not just buy an E7200 would save you about $50 too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
Earthwatts and E7200 rock :toast: And 45nm chips dont work at all on Nforce 600 chipsets. For what hes gonna be doing tho a cheap P43 would be better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138122
Silverel
07-26-2008, 12:34 AM
yeah, 600$ should be plenty for a WoW running computer and then some. Check out the FS section of the forums, you can find some hella-sweet deals there.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43
Damian^
07-26-2008, 01:07 AM
To Damian, so you did not mention anything about my hard drive, is it fine as it is?
And the video card (Radeon 9250) is a PCI slot.
To Fraid: My budget is around $600.
And to pepsi: What exactally is a heatsink and wouldnt it come with the processer? Or is that just a fan.
seems like you picked an IDE drive, that might be a problem unless your dvd burner is SATA, look for a SATA hard drive instead.
The heatsink is what keep the CPU cool it does come with the processor unless you buy an OEM. Unless you want to overclock the stock heatsink should be good enough.
farid
07-26-2008, 02:13 AM
Take a look at this build:
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337) 84,99$
CPU: E7200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052) 124,99$
GPU: EVGA 8600GT 256mb GDDR2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085) 79,99$ -30$ MIR
RAM: OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227139) 49,49$ -30$ MIR
PSU: Rosewill 550W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182017) 54,99$
HDD: Western Digital Caviar 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136200) 59,99$
Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068) 49,99$
Thats 504,43$ -60$ on MIR and without shipping.
I dont think that you need a sound card, with the Mobo sound should be enough (But thats just me :p)
Good luck :D
Zax85
07-26-2008, 02:50 AM
Just a quick advice: NEVER use the nForce 650/680i SLI Motherboard series, unless you are ready for problems/bios updates constantly and failing hardware. We have sooo many customers coming for help at a daily basis because of the nVidia based motherboards.
pepsi71ocean
07-26-2008, 02:56 AM
the dual core Wolfdale Processor work ont he 680i Series mobos, however anything quad core won't.
If you want anything i would suggest sticking with a 65nm chip, but thats just me, i look for a stable chip not a new one. The 45nm can't handle the voltage like the 65's do.
The heat sink is what goes on top of the processor, if you plan to overclock that is.
CashComp
07-26-2008, 04:26 PM
Take a look at this build:
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337) 84,99$
CPU: E7200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052) 124,99$
GPU: EVGA 8600GT 256mb GDDR2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130085) 79,99$ -30$ MIR
RAM: OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227139) 49,49$ -30$ MIR
PSU: Rosewill 550W (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182017) 54,99$
HDD: Western Digital Caviar 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136200) 59,99$
Case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068) 49,99$
Thats 504,43$ -60$ on MIR and without shipping.
I dont think that you need a sound card, with the Mobo sound should be enough (But thats just me :p)
Good luck :D
Heheh, I'll check out that build, seems to be within my budget. Thanks =).
Also, Pepsi, do I need a heatsink if I dont plan on overclocking? (Because I really have no idea what that means or how to do it ^_^)
pepsi71ocean
07-26-2008, 04:49 PM
you don't need a Aftermarket heatsink if you don't plan to overclock.
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