12 pipe x800xl? help!

[Vario]

Just installed my x800xl. According to atitool, I have 12 pipelines. Direct X claims my card is an x800gto. What do I do?

It is a x800xl definitely. I have an r430 core...

[Vario]

Changed the bios to a msi x800xl bios. Now reports stock speeds core and memory much higher, but still only 12 pipelines.

[peta01]

There is no possibilty how to unlock pipes on R430 core. If ATITool shows 12 pipes you have X800GTO. Someone cheated you. Some X800GTO's have R430 core too.
What is your max stale core OC?

You can post here your fuses data to be sure about the pipes.

[Vario]

I havent tried my max.

Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset RADEON X800 Series
Device ID 554D
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 0952
Subsystem Vendor ID 1462

Bus Type PCI Express
Current Bus Setting PCI Express

BIOS Version 009.007.001.004
BIOS Part Number 113-A37901MS
BIOS Date 2004/11/10

Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Type DDR3

Core Clock in MHz 398 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 493 MHz

Primary Display Yes


Here are the specs that catalyst detected, based on the msi x800xl bios i installed.

What program and how do I get my fuse data?

Thank you.


EDIT:
http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/r430-4/collage.jpg from http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/video/r430-4.html
This page has a review for an x800xl.
The image shows an r430 core. That card is the card I own, the box, packaging, and stickers on the card suggest it is an x800xl, it also ahs the dual dvi + svideo. What is going on?

[peta01]

I havent tried my max.


Here are the specs that catalyst detected, based on the msi x800xl bios i installed.

What program and how do I get my fuse data?

Thank you.

Download, install and run ATITool (can be techpowerup). Hold down Shift key and click on Settings button, release shift. Post here all lines including word FUSE.

[Vario]

Ok. Here is the data.


Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 554D
Chip Type R430
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 Mhz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724



Info was handtyped, but I believe that is exactly how it is shown.

[peta01]

Yes that's what I need to know. Your card is realy X800Xl :D. Only thing you have to do is to flash the right X800XL bios. Did you use ATIflash or Flashrom for flashing? If you did not try Flashrom, do it. It can solve your problem.

[Vario]

Thanks for the help. Tried flashrom as opposed to earlier using atiflash. Tried a different bios, this time used the ATI one as opposed to the MSI. Still says 12 pixel pipelines.

Edit:
Decided to play some F.E.A.R. Running the card right now at 430 core 555 memory, stable, with factory specs.

I really would love to have those pipes. Is there a chance I have them, and ATI tool is incorrect? Any other diagnostic tools out there that can tell me what pipelines I have?

[peta01]

Man this is VERY interesting. I think your card should be a BIG step to discover the way how to unlock pipes on R430.

[peta01]

Try to make flash with empty bin file. Create some empty file named empty.bin. Flash it, but DO NOT restart, you must flash normal bios before you restart. Otherwise you will get some troubles.
Try diferent X800XL bioses from bios collection. And reinstall your drivers.

[Vario]

I am flashing through the bios. I have tried both the MSI x800xl and the ATI x800xl bioses, reinstalling drivers each time and reinstalling ati tool each time. If I make a empty bios, should I first flash that, then flash the next then reboot? Is that what you mean?

[peta01]

Yes. Flash empty, then flash normal bios then restart.

[Thermopylae_480]

Try to make flash with empty bin file. Create some empty file named empty.bin. Flash it, but DO NOT restart, you must flash normal bios before you restart. Otherwise you will get some troubles.
Try diferent X800XL bioses from bios collection. And reinstall your drivers.

Um. I don't believe an empty BIOS is really empty. I think you need to find a Hex editor (There are freeware versions) and place a series of fs like this. (ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff... ) similiar to an actual BIOS file. Then save it as a .bin file and flash your card with it. Try using these steps with atiflash.

1. C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 blankBIOS.bin
2. C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 XLBIOS.bin
3. C:\atiflash -v 0 XLBIOS.bin (to verify there are no errors).
Do all three steps without rebooting!!!!!

The -newbios command keeps the flash from carrying any parameters from the old BIOS over. Maybe that is what is keeping it stuck at 12 ppl.

[Vario]

Not sure how to make this empty bios file, sorry.

Edit: Bios problem fixed. Flashed using a different flash tool, the Flashrom 16p, I had been using atiflash and flashrom 240. Reinstalled catalsyt a few times and I have 16 pipes. Thanks so much for help guys.

[peta01]

Thats nice. Congratulations :D. Can you post your new fuses data, please?

[peta01]

Um. I don't believe an empty BIOS is really empty. I think you need to find a Hex editor (There are freeware versions) and place a series of fs like this. (ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff... ) similiar to an actual BIOS file. Then save it as a .bin file and flash your card with it. Try using these steps with atiflash.

1. C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 blankBIOS.bin
2. C:\atiflash -newbios -f -p 0 XLBIOS.bin
3. C:\atiflash -v 0 XLBIOS.bin (to verify there are no errors).
Do all three steps without rebooting!!!!!

The -newbios command keeps the flash from carrying any parameters from the old BIOS over. Maybe that is what is keeping it stuck at 12 ppl.

Yes you are right. I fogot about it. Thanks for correction.

[Vario]

Current Fuses:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0xA60
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x3FE4

[peta01]

Thank you Vario. And one more thing: Can you post here your current bios, pls?