Looking for Original "Built by ATI" X1800XT 512mb BIOS file

[dotsync]

I have an original ATI x1800xt and I flashed to the PE bios and never backed up my old one (i know, i know... im dumb... dont flame :( ). I started having problems with the new bios in place so i ended up flashing to the GeCube bios which is set to the original freq's. But I'd just feel more comfortable if i was running the original "built by ATI" bios, so if anyone out there can maybe help me out getting the original bios that would be greatly appreciated.

ps... is it normal to have problems with the automated overclocking utility on ATI's overdrive? it gets the clocks almost maxed but i get freezing in 3dm05 and 06. could it be the card or the fact that im using a GeCube bios? anywho, im thinking about sending this one back to ati and trying my luck with another.


thanks
-nick

[INSTG8R]

There is only one BIOS, all cards at this point are identical.

[Rammsteiner]

I have an original ATI x1800xt and I flashed to the PE bios and never backed up my old one (i know, i know... im dumb... dont flame :( ). I started having problems with the new bios in place so i ended up flashing to the GeCube bios which is set to the original freq's. But I'd just feel more comfortable if i was running the original "built by ATI" bios, so if anyone out there can maybe help me out getting the original bios that would be greatly appreciated.

ps... is it normal to have problems with the automated overclocking utility on ATI's overdrive? it gets the clocks almost maxed but i get freezing in 3dm05 and 06. could it be the card or the fact that im using a GeCube bios? anywho, im thinking about sending this one back to ati and trying my luck with another.


thanks
-nick
What problems did you get with the PE BIOS?

[dotsync]

What problems did you get with the PE BIOS?

freezing in games... quake 4 would just lock up. also, 3dmark05 and 06 would lock up aswell and vpu recover would not kick in (i had to do a hard reset). i'm thinking it could be a heat issue. i tried using overclocker to max the fan speed while playing games but the card just didnt feel stable with the PE bios. i get the same type of problems with overdrive maxed which leads me to believe i just have a bad overclocker.

There is only one BIOS, all cards at this point are identical.

well, there are the PE/OC cards, overclocked by HIS, Sapphire, etc. these cards have an overclocked bios and have a slightly different PCB design to facilitate a more stable overclock. i'm just wondering if the GeCube that im using is the same as the ATI bios.

[Quake2owns]

The only time you shouldnt be using x1800xt pe bios is when you have like a original r520 video card reference with only like 5 black power capacitor sh1ts if you have 6 you should be fine with pe bios like my card currently is.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/cf9a149f.jpg

thats my x1800xt^ 700/800 STABLE ALL DAY!

[Quake2owns]

freezing in games... quake 4 would just lock up. also, 3dmark05 and 06 would lock up aswell and vpu recover would not kick in (i had to do a hard reset). i'm thinking it could be a heat issue. i tried using overclocker to max the fan speed while playing games but the card just didnt feel stable with the PE bios. i get the same type of problems with overdrive maxed which leads me to believe i just have a bad overclocker.



well, there are the PE/OC cards, overclocked by HIS, Sapphire, etc. these cards have an overclocked bios and have a slightly different PCB design to facilitate a more stable overclock. i'm just wondering if the GeCube that im using is the same as the ATI bios.
I have problems with Quake 4 because ATI DRIVERS RIGHT NOW GOT A QUAKE 4 BUG the game crashes on everyones card in quake 4/.

[dotsync]

well, everything crashes when its overclocked and with the PE bios.

... where are the capacitors located? i'll take a look... chances are i have the reference PCB design :\

[Quake2owns]

I will take a picture .

[Quake2owns]

Do you see the 6 black boxes infront of the red heatsink ? If you dont have 6 black boxes and only 5 then you got a r520 meaning x1800xt that cant handle x1800xt pe bios,.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/c0a3aa9e.jpg

[Quake2owns]

What kinda of power supply are you using and what drivers?

[INSTG8R]

The Stock BIOS is the same for all cards, yes there are 2 BIOS's but again all XTs are using the same BIOS there is only one version of it.

[dotsync]

i have 6 boxes... is there any type of write-up on the 5 and 6 box thing? also, i have a Sunbeam NUUO 550w SLI power suppy and 6.1 cats.

here are my complete specs:

Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Alu. 2x120 1x80
DFI Lanparty nF4 Ultra-D (704-bta)
AMD Opteron 148 @ 2.8GHz
CAB2E 0546BPMW (255x11) 1.4v (28C/41C)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
2GB (2x1GB) G.Skill PC4000 @ 255MHz-3-4-4-8-1T
ATI Radeon X1800XT 512MB PCIe x16
WD 320GB SE 16MB SATA 3.0gb/s
Plextor PX-740A 16x DVD+/-RW
Lite-On SOHW-812S 8x DVD+/-RW
Sunbeam NUUO 550W SLI Modular PSU

i dont think the problem is the PSU... my 12v rail stays around 12.60-12.67v even under load

[Quake2owns]

i have 6 boxes... is there any type of write-up on the 5 and 6 box thing? also, i have a Sunbeam NUUO 550w SLI power suppy and 6.1 cats.

here are my complete specs:

Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Alu. 2x120 1x80
DFI Lanparty nF4 Ultra-D (704-bta)
AMD Opteron 148 @ 2.8GHz
CAB2E 0546BPMW (255x11) 1.4v (28C/41C)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
2GB (2x1GB) G.Skill PC4000 @ 255MHz-3-4-4-8-1T
ATI Radeon X1800XT 512MB PCIe x16
WD 320GB SE 16MB SATA 3.0gb/s
Plextor PX-740A 16x DVD+/-RW
Lite-On SOHW-812S 8x DVD+/-RW
Sunbeam NUUO 550W SLI Modular PSU

i dont think the problem is the PSU... my 12v rail stays around 12.60-12.67v even under load
Since your optie is overclocked, im suggesting you its the computer locking up not the video card. Undo the overclock run the optie stock and see if it freezes. Well i read the x1800xt's with only 5 black box thingy i dont even know what they are called i know its for power though lol anyway i read on here said people with 5 boxes cant handle pe bios and it would damage the card in the long run. Even if my computer 3800 venice passes SUPERPI 32M STABLE @ 2.88ghz it will still freeze sometimes on any of my motherboards.. Im sure its your processor/motherboard freezing not the card.

[Quake2owns]

Just to let you know overclocking a processor is pretty pointless nowdays because overclocking the processor will only help on cpu limited resolutions like 1024x768 If you run like 1280x1024 a 2.0 ghz athlon 64 would pull the same fps as lets say fx-60 2.6 ghz in Quake 4 at 1280x1024 most games are gpu bound very few cpu bound. Sometimes when you overclock a processor it actually can decrease performance , and cause visual artifacts.

[Rammsteiner]

:wtf:.I never heard about OCed CPUs causing artifacts :confused:. And all the rest is wrong too. Its true most games are VGA bound, but to let a VGA perform well you need to have a fast CPU! Otherwise your CPU will bottleneck your VGA like hell...

[Quake2owns]

:wtf:.I never heard about OCed CPUs causing artifacts :confused:. And all the rest is wrong too. Its true most games are VGA bound, but to let a VGA perform well you need to have a fast CPU! Otherwise your CPU will bottleneck your VGA like hell...
Explain Why call of duty 2 get's the exact same framerates on my socket 478 pentium 4 2.6c with a x1800xt as my 3800 venice @ 2.88ghz or stock 2.4ghz in half life 2 in quake 4 doom3 and far cry ., i would love to know ?Btw cpu can cause artifacting cpu artifacting is when objects inside of games turn invisible or disapear.

[OneCool]

Do you still need it or what?

[Rammsteiner]

I dont know. That should mean that none of your components is stressed to the max or there is something bottlenecking something. Since its impossible your components arent stressed I think something is bottlenecking something. Whats your config?

And CPU's cant cause artifacts, GPU does. If a CPU is unstable your PC just get a BSOD/hardlock/error. But no faulty errors in graphics.

[Quake2owns]

I dont know. That should mean that none of your components is stressed to the max or there is something bottlenecking something. Since its impossible your components arent stressed I think something is bottlenecking something. Whats your config?

And CPU's cant cause artifacts, GPU does. If a CPU is unstable your PC just get a BSOD/hardlock/error. But no faulty errors in graphics.
No my cpu causes artifacts in 3dmark05 and Quake 4 when it's overclocked to 3.1 ghz, 3800+ venice so yes cpu's do cause visual anomolies. The objects will appear invisible or glitches objects will blink black and normal colors trust me cpu's artifact i think i know been overclocking for 20+ years now.

[Quake2owns]

Do you still need it or what?

i doubt you have a optie @ 3.ghz stable with a xp90c I can get to 3.1 ghz but its not stable with my xp90c because the processor runs too damn hot 68c 70c and the proc locks up system reboot 70c=lock up point for athlon 64 procs.

[dotsync]

funny thing... i burned in my processor @ 2.8ghz and if i try to bring it back down to 2.2, the computer wont boot :). anywho, i doubt it is my processor... i can play games and benchmark fine @ 2.8 w/ stock gpu speeds and i can superpi and prime all day long @ 2.8.

question: any possibility my motherboard could be undervolting my card? just a thought.

onecool...

what stepping opty do you have?
...and how's that x1900xtx treating you? :)

quake2owns...

with a good stepping, you can get a 146 up to 3ghz on STOCK cooling. so with a xp90c, i'd definately believe it.

[Quake2owns]

funny thing... i burned in my processor @ 2.8ghz and if i try to bring it back down to 2.2, the computer wont boot :). anywho, i doubt it is my processor... i can play games and benchmark fine @ 2.8 w/ stock gpu speeds and i can superpi and prime all day long @ 2.8.

question: any possibility my motherboard could be undervolting my card? just a thought.

onecool...

what stepping opty do you have?
...and how's that x1900xtx treating you? :)

quake2owns...

with a good stepping, you can get a 146 up to 3ghz on STOCK cooling. so with a xp90c, i'd definately believe it.
Let's see a optie hit 3.1 ghz stable heats my only problem if i got a better 90mm fan for my xp90c i might actually keep it stable like my athlon 64 venice 3800+ . BTW i do think it is your processer/ram/overclock messing up. Because i run my pc @ 2.88ghz stable 24/7 superpi 32m 24m.2 seconds But if it game like for a long time my computer eventually freezes up because the damn processor gets so hot.

[Quake2owns]

funny thing... i burned in my processor @ 2.8ghz and if i try to bring it back down to 2.2, the computer wont boot :). anywho, i doubt it is my processor... i can play games and benchmark fine @ 2.8 w/ stock gpu speeds and i can superpi and prime all day long @ 2.8.

question: any possibility my motherboard could be undervolting my card? just a thought.

onecool...

what stepping opty do you have?
...and how's that x1900xtx treating you? :)

quake2owns...

with a good stepping, you can get a 146 up to 3ghz on STOCK cooling. so with a xp90c, i'd definately believe it.
clear the cmos that will make it boot and there's really no such thing as burn in.

[Quake2owns]

As you can see im running 2gb pc4000 cruical z503 kit a 3800+ venice with a thermalright xp-90 copper using a ECS ka1 mvp extreme i can hit 3.1 GHZ stable untill my processor temp hits 70c the xp-90c cannot keep my processor from hitting 70c and i seriously doubt that guy is running 3 ghz stable because even 3.ghz stable the opties/a64s run too g--damn hot.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/434c3d80.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/1951b564.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/d08d1d88.jpg

[Quake2owns]

Im wondering what fan this dude has.

[dotsync]

so i reset my cmos... got everything back to defaults, turned up the VPU Overdrive on my card, ran 3dm06, and it froze on proxycon... had to reset

ugh... looks like it must be the card

[Quake2owns]

send it back lol.

[Rammsteiner]

Quake2owns, Im 99% sure you dont overclock already for 20+ years. Thats some serieus crap. Also I even googled because of what you said. NOWHERE. I think you're just crapping into space or so. I think your VGA is pretty dead if its gonna artifact on a too high OC on the CPU. Also its VERY possible to hit 3Ghz+ OC's on Opty's with air! I saw one who had 3,55Ghz on air. If you were OCing already for 20+ years you have should known this.

And besides that, it was even impossible to OC 20+ years ago. In 1986 there where hardlky any PC's. And there was no single need to OC because there werent any programs what needed more speed. Also there were no benchmarks for it. OCing in that time was very hard (if it was possible at all).

[RGP]

Hi,
Hey dotsync if you still need the bios it is on this page. It is the r520.rom

Later
RGP

http://robertpope.shackspace.com/X1800xt

[Quake2owns]

Quake2owns, Im 99% sure you dont overclock already for 20+ years. Thats some serieus crap. Also I even googled because of what you said. NOWHERE. I think you're just crapping into space or so. I think your VGA is pretty dead if its gonna artifact on a too high OC on the CPU. Also its VERY possible to hit 3Ghz+ OC's on Opty's with air! I saw one who had 3,55Ghz on air. If you were OCing already for 20+ years you have should known this.

And besides that, it was even impossible to OC 20+ years ago. In 1986 there where hardlky any PC's. And there was no single need to OC because there werent any programs what needed more speed. Also there were no benchmarks for it. OCing in that time was very hard (if it was possible at all).
Ok explain Why Quake 4 doom3 half life 2 f.e.a.r all have visual artifacts if i overclock my processor too high and when i undo the overclock and run it low oc or stock speeds no artifacts seems you havent been overclocking long enough to know this.

[Quake2owns]

Quake2owns, Im 99% sure you dont overclock already for 20+ years. Thats some serieus crap. Also I even googled because of what you said. NOWHERE. I think you're just crapping into space or so. I think your VGA is pretty dead if its gonna artifact on a too high OC on the CPU. Also its VERY possible to hit 3Ghz+ OC's on Opty's with air! I saw one who had 3,55Ghz on air. If you were OCing already for 20+ years you have should known this.

And besides that, it was even impossible to OC 20+ years ago. In 1986 there where hardlky any PC's. And there was no single need to OC because there werent any programs what needed more speed. Also there were no benchmarks for it. OCing in that time was very hard (if it was possible at all).
3.55 ghz with a wind tunnel about it not with a damn thermalright xp-90 copper sorry .

[Rammsteiner]

Well, you said your overclocking 20+ years, so you should know its not the fault of your CPU but probably because of an unstable GPU! As I already told you a CPU only will cause an error/BSOD or a hardlock when its unstable. A CPU doesnt have to do ANYTHING with graphics. If you still think so, you may explain why a CPU thats stable enough to run 3DMark0x dont cause artifacts?

I think your GPU causes artifacts when your CPU is overclocked because its only then fully operational. So your CPU/RAM is being a huuuge bottleneck. You still didnt give your config, thats plain stupid IMO.

And that guy with an Opty @ 3.55Ghz, it was with a Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu, an open window and a ventilator ;).

[Quake2owns]

Well, you said your overclocking 20+ years, so you should know its not the fault of your CPU but probably because of an unstable GPU! As I already told you a CPU only will cause an error/BSOD or a hardlock when its unstable. A CPU doesnt have to do ANYTHING with graphics. If you still think so, you may explain why a CPU thats stable enough to run 3DMark0x dont cause artifacts?

I think your GPU causes artifacts when your CPU is overclocked because its only then fully operational. So your CPU/RAM is being a huuuge bottleneck. You still didnt give your config, thats plain stupid IMO.

And that guy with an Opty @ 3.55Ghz, it was with a Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu, an open window and a ventilator ;).

UMM you are really dumb foreal LOL if you overclock your processor too high and it runs hot in 3dmark05 or 06 objects will turn invisible and blink in and out seriously it's caused the by processor being overclocked too high because the video cards are running STOCK SPEEDS NO OVERCLOCKED AND THEY ARENT OVERHEATING IT'S WHEN YOU OVERCLOCK PROCESSORS THE CPU RUNS TOO HOT AND CAUSES ARTIFACTS IT'S PROVEN DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME MAD!

[Quake2owns]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/cf9a149f.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/a743ccf8.jpg

wow you should know what motherboard and video cards those are from pics.

600 watt lonestar psu
650 watt silverstone sli psu

3200+ winchester
3800+ venice
3.2E prescott
2.6c northwood.

[spectre440]

UMM you are really dumb foreal LOL if you overclock your processor too high and it runs hot in 3dmark05 or 06 objects will turn invisible and blink in and out seriously it's caused the by processor being overclocked too high because the video cards are running STOCK SPEEDS NO OVERCLOCKED AND THEY ARENT OVERHEATING IT'S WHEN YOU OVERCLOCK PROCESSORS THE CPU RUNS TOO HOT AND CAUSES ARTIFACTS IT'S PROVEN DUMB PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME FUCKING PISSED!



you know that hole in your face? that one that you put pie in?
well, shut it.


for the love of god, can you please stop with this acursed "OMGZORZ I AM TEH L33T WINZ J00 R ALL TEH STUPEED SUXX0RZ" attitude?
sersiously, do the entire forum a favor and just be silent.
please?

[Nyte]

for the love of god, can you please stop with this acursed "OMGZORZ I AM TEH L33T WINZ J00 R ALL TEH STUPEED SUXX0RZ" attitude?
sersiously, do the entire forum a favor and just be silent.
please?

Indeed :laugh:


By the way, I can modify the BIOS for you if you need a specific clock. Just send me a copy of it and I'll diag it.

Or I could just provide you with a reference BIOS and then modify it to suit your clock needs.

[dotsync]

Hi,
Hey dotsync if you still need the bios it is on this page. It is the r520.rom

Later
RGP

http://robertpope.shackspace.com/X1800xt


thanks a bunch. i'll try it when i get home.

[Rammsteiner]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/cf9a149f.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/doom3owns/a743ccf8.jpg

wow you should know what motherboard and video cards those are from pics.

600 watt lonestar psu
650 watt silverstone sli psu

3200+ winchester
3800+ venice
3.2E prescott
2.6c northwood.
I ask you to post your config. Not to post a friggin picture to play a game! Do you think Im deumb/stupid so you think you can test me by posting those pics or something!? Im trying to help you with your problem and also with your mind (it doesnt work well I think).

You think Im dumb because you say CPU does cause artifacts when OCed too high? So explain why I dont EVER had that problem? I OCed many, many systems and never had it. Killed 3 CPU's by going way to far, but still no artifacts. I think you dont know where the hell you're talking about. Especially after telling you're overclocking for 20+ years, thats plain weak :shadedshu.

Ill try to find out the system, but dont expect me anymore to help you if you just do like this.

1st pic

VGA: X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: ECS KA1 MVP

2nd pic upper PC:

VGA X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR
PSU: Silverstone
Thermaltake cooler

2nd pic lower PC:

Same as first pic but then with nVidia 7800GT(X) with Zalman VF700(Al)Cu

[djbbenn]

Ok now lets drop this "Dumb" stuff and such. We don't need to have any more flame wars.

-Dan

[Quake2owns]

I ask you to post your config. Not to post a friggin picture to play a game! Do you think Im deumb/stupid so you think you can test me by posting those pics or something!? Im trying to help you with your problem and also with your mind (it doesnt work well I think).

You think Im dumb because you say CPU does cause artifacts when OCed too high? So explain why I dont EVER had that problem? I OCed many, many systems and never had it. Killed 3 CPU's by going way to far, but still no artifacts. I think you dont know where the hell you're talking about. Especially after telling you're overclocking for 20+ years, thats plain weak :shadedshu.

Ill try to find out the system, but dont expect me anymore to help you if you just do like this.

1st pic

VGA: X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: ECS KA1 MVP

2nd pic upper PC:

VGA X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR
PSU: Silverstone
Thermaltake cooler

2nd pic lower PC:

Same as first pic but then with nVidia 7800GT(X) with Zalman VF700(Al)Cu

ecs ka1 mvp extreme
600 watt lonestar psu
ati radeon x1800xtpe
2gb crucial pc4000
3800+ venice 2.4 ghz
thermalright xp-90 copper cheap 92mm fan.

second rig 650 watt sli silverstone psu
DFI lanparty nforce 4 sli-dr ut is lower end model.
2 gb pc3200 by corsair.
bfg tech 7800 gtx 256 mb zalman vf700Cu=stands for copper al=aluminum mines all copper version.
3200+ winchester 2.0 ghz
thermaltake thermalboost heatsink,

If your processor is running too hot actual textures or models inside of games will blink black and invisible i know what im talking about both of my computers do it in quake 4 and 3dmark05/06 .

[Quake2owns]

I ask you to post your config. Not to post a friggin picture to play a game! Do you think Im deumb/stupid so you think you can test me by posting those pics or something!? Im trying to help you with your problem and also with your mind (it doesnt work well I think).

You think Im dumb because you say CPU does cause artifacts when OCed too high? So explain why I dont EVER had that problem? I OCed many, many systems and never had it. Killed 3 CPU's by going way to far, but still no artifacts. I think you dont know where the hell you're talking about. Especially after telling you're overclocking for 20+ years, thats plain weak :shadedshu.

Ill try to find out the system, but dont expect me anymore to help you if you just do like this.

1st pic

VGA: X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: ECS KA1 MVP

2nd pic upper PC:

VGA X1x00XT(X) (PE)
Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR
PSU: Silverstone
Thermaltake cooler

2nd pic lower PC:

Same as first pic but then with nVidia 7800GT(X) with Zalman VF700(Al)Cu

if you have killed 3 cpus you have no clue what you are doing lol.

[dotsync]

i think the artifacts you experience may be a product not specifically of the processor getting hot but sort of like a chain reaction... the processor gets hot, the mobo gets hot, in turn heating up the video card. i know my cpu overclock is not the problem because my cpu temps never get hotter than 42c and my pwmic never even reaches 50. i called in an rma to ati and i'm returning the card. figure ill hold out for an x1900xtx unless something better comes along :). good thing i have my backup x1800xl... lol

[Rammsteiner]

Yeah, I also read it could be caused by a PCI/AGP bug, but thats impossible on those mobo's. Anyway, quake2owns things he's a better OCer than Kingpin and Macci all to gether because when you kill something you're a dumb person :wtf:. Oh well, that was acrual 'the proof' that hes talking rubbish. Why dont he just google it!? I did, and no results for that. Im done with him, not gonna help him with it because Ive an idea what it could be :rolleyes:. I dont want to get banned either so I shut up to him :D.

[Quake2owns]

Yeah, I also read it could be caused by a PCI/AGP bug, but thats impossible on those mobo's. Anyway, quake2owns things he's a better OCer than Kingpin and Macci all to gether because when you kill something you're a dumb person :wtf:. Oh well, that was acrual 'the proof' that hes talking rubbish. Why dont he just google it!? I did, and no results for that. Im done with him, not gonna help him with it because Ive an idea what it could be :rolleyes:. I dont want to get banned either so I shut up to him :D.
Overclocking isnt a talent it's trial and error.

[Quake2owns]

i think the artifacts you experience may be a product not specifically of the processor getting hot but sort of like a chain reaction... the processor gets hot, the mobo gets hot, in turn heating up the video card. i know my cpu overclock is not the problem because my cpu temps never get hotter than 42c and my pwmic never even reaches 50. i called in an rma to ati and i'm returning the card. figure ill hold out for an x1900xtx unless something better comes along :). good thing i have my backup x1800xl... lol
Sorry it's not the video card artifacting sorry i dont see how a 7800 gtx non overclocked default clocks only running 40c in 3dmark05 can have artifacts with hot running cpu. Cpu's do cause artifacts one day you might find out.

[Quake2owns]

Yeah, I also read it could be caused by a PCI/AGP bug, but thats impossible on those mobo's. Anyway, quake2owns things he's a better OCer than Kingpin and Macci all to gether because when you kill something you're a dumb person :wtf:. Oh well, that was acrual 'the proof' that hes talking rubbish. Why dont he just google it!? I did, and no results for that. Im done with him, not gonna help him with it because Ive an idea what it could be :rolleyes:. I dont want to get banned either so I shut up to him :D.
Well im not mr.english teacher i dont know how to spell every single word correct and i forget alot of gramtic crap because i havent been in school for a long time and i dont freaking write letters yea i fill out checks but thats about it bills wow not letters/paragraphs lol.Anyway i think i have a little more experience about computers than you since you cant even spell actual right or together rollseyes.

[W1zzard]

Well im not mr.english teacher i dont know how to spell every single word correct and i forget alot of gramtic crap because i havent been in school for a long time and i dont freaking write letters yea i fill out checks but thats about it bills wow not letters/paragraphs lol.Anyway i think i have a little more experience about computers than you since you cant even spell actual right or together rollseyes.

isnt that the point of a forum? that the more experienced help the less skilled?
please note "help" not "pwn and tell everybody how great you are".

how is experience about computers related to spell right?

[Rammsteiner]

isnt that the point of a forum? that the more experienced help the less skilled?
please note "help" not "pwn and tell everybody how great you are".

how is experience about computers related to spell right?
LOL, thx W1z. Sry the whole discussion has to go this way.

@ quake2owns, I didnt EVER attacked you on your writing, did I? And no, mine isnt great, Im only 16 and from The Netherlands. Its good enough to understand, and you think you have more experience with overclocking than me, well, dream on mate. I bet you still didnt searched for a second on google for your problem? I think its funny because you're the only one who has that problem :rolleyes:. Also nVidia doesnt have great image quality (why do you think Ive an X1800XT?). So maybe, probably not, I know probably what the problem is, its your VGA whats completely messed up. But as I already said, I dont think that...

Well, anyway, goodluck with your problem. Im sure you've enough 'experience' to fix it your self. Probably its something only happens to 'experienced' people. Oh well, always funny to read Kingpin and Macci are 'n00b' overclockers ha? :laugh:.

Come on, wake up... :shadedshu.

[Quake2owns]

isnt that the point of a forum? that the more experienced help the less skilled?
please note "help" not "pwn and tell everybody how great you are".

how is experience about computers related to spell right?

Well i have first hand experience with like 30 different cpu's and motherboards in my life im 26 mind you , and like ive noticed when you overclock your ram/cpu/motherboard it can cause visual anamolies/artifacts in games and 3dmark benchmarking see i forgot how to spell that< lol<, And this guy ramm is SAYING NO ITS NOT POSSIBLE arguing with me when it';s true cpus do cause visual artifacts.

[Quake2owns]

LOL, thx W1z. Sry the whole discussion has to go this way.

@ quake2owns, I didnt EVER attacked you on your writing, did I? And no, mine isnt great, Im only 16 and from The Netherlands. Its good enough to understand, and you think you have more experience with overclocking than me, well, dream on mate. I bet you still didnt searched for a second on google for your problem? I think its funny because you're the only one who has that problem :rolleyes:. Also nVidia doesnt have great image quality (why do you think Ive an X1800XT?). So maybe, probably not, I know probably what the problem is, its your VGA whats completely messed up. But as I already said, I dont think that...

Well, anyway, goodluck with your problem. Im sure you've enough 'experience' to fix it your self. Probably its something only happens to 'experienced' people. Oh well, always funny to read Kingpin and Macci are 'n00b' overclockers ha? :laugh:.

Come on, wake up... :shadedshu.

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY DUMB? MY AHHAAHAHAH HOW CAN A 9800 PRO STILL WORKING RADEON 9600 X1800XT X850XT PE 6800 GT ALL BE MESSED UP WHEN THE ARTIFACTS IN 3DMARK05 WERE CAUSED BY THE CPU BEING OVERCLOCKED TOO HIGH AND GUESS WHAT MAN? THE VIDEO CARD TEMPS ARE THE SAME EVEN WITH MY CPU ULTRA HOT DOOFUS LOL. SO ITS NOT THE GPU AT ALL ITS THE FREAKING RAM/MOTHERBOARD/CPU/CHIPSET BEING OVERCLOCKED TOO MUCH LACKING VOLTAGE SO IT CANNOT LET THE VIDEO CARD DISPLAY CORRECTLY THATS WHAT I MEAN

[Quake2owns]

LOL, thx W1z. Sry the whole discussion has to go this way.

@ quake2owns, I didnt EVER attacked you on your writing, did I? And no, mine isnt great, Im only 16 and from The Netherlands. Its good enough to understand, and you think you have more experience with overclocking than me, well, dream on mate. I bet you still didnt searched for a second on google for your problem? I think its funny because you're the only one who has that problem :rolleyes:. Also nVidia doesnt have great image quality (why do you think Ive an X1800XT?). So maybe, probably not, I know probably what the problem is, its your VGA whats completely messed up. But as I already said, I dont think that...

Well, anyway, goodluck with your problem. Im sure you've enough 'experience' to fix it your self. Probably its something only happens to 'experienced' people. Oh well, always funny to read Kingpin and Macci are 'n00b' overclockers ha? :laugh:.

Come on, wake up... :shadedshu.

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY DUMB? MY AHHAAHAHAH HOW CAN A 9800 PRO STILL WORKING RADEON 9600 7800 gtx 256 X1800XT X850XT PE 6800 GT ALL BE MESSED UP WHEN THE ARTIFACTS IN 3DMARK05 WERE CAUSED BY THE CPU BEING OVERCLOCKED TOO HIGH AND GUESS WHAT MAN? THE VIDEO CARD TEMPS ARE THE SAME EVEN WITH MY CPU ULTRA HOT DOOFUS LOL. SO ITS NOT THE GPU AT ALL ITS THE FREAKING RAM/MOTHERBOARD/CPU/CHIPSET BEING OVERCLOCKED TOO MUCH LACKING VOLTAGE SO IT CANNOT LET THE VIDEO CARD DISPLAY CORRECTLY THATS WHAT I MEAN OVERCLOCKING CPU'S TOO HIGH CAUSE VIDEO CARDS TO NOT DISPLAY CORRECTLY! YOUR 16 DUDE GROW UP! SIT BACK AND TAKE A LESSON FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS EXPERIECE.

BTW WHERE'S YOUR COMPUTER PICTURES? I WANT TO SEE IT./

[Quake2owns]

biggest way to tell video card temp stays the same even if the cpu is hot with a unstable overclock in 3dmark05/06 you will get visual artifacts and when you undo that overclock and fun it even with the card being the same temp the artifacts will disappear that's because motherboards/cpu'/ram do cause video cards to not display correctly when overclocked no faulty video cards or anything you just dont know what the hell you talking about.

[djbbenn]

Please lay off with the all capital letters, it's very annoying and no need for it.

I've never heard of Artifacts being caused by a CPU overclock. I'm not saying it's not true. It doesn't make much sense either, where CPUs don't produce the image. Although, I guess it is possible if the CPU feed corrupted information to the video card. But most of the time when a CPU corrupts the data, the game simply crashes.

-Dan

[Solaris17]

*sigh* this is getting old...............very quickly.

[Quake2owns]

Please lay off with the all capital letters, it's very annoying and no need for it.

I've never heard of Artifacts being caused by a CPU overclock. I'm not saying it's not true. It doesn't make much sense either, where CPUs don't produce the image. Although, I guess it is possible if the CPU feed corrupted information to the video card. But most of the time when a CPU corrupts the data, the game simply crashes.

-Dan
Usually when someone is running a really high unstable you know non superpi 32m or prime stable overclock you are maxing out your vcore voltage and like ram basically and stressing chipset so this leads to the video card not getting enough power and leads to visual artifacts . So in a sense yes cpu's cause artifacts.

[Rammsteiner]

Please lay off with the all capital letters, it's very annoying and no need for it.

I've never heard of Artifacts being caused by a CPU overclock. I'm not saying it's not true. It doesn't make much sense either, where CPUs don't produce the image. Although, I guess it is possible if the CPU feed corrupted information to the video card. But most of the time when a CPU corrupts the data, the game simply crashes.

-Dan
Yup, thats what I tell him all the time. He still didnt proof anything, not even a screenshot or so :rolleyes. Also he's already loosen his statements by saing its CPU/mobo/RAM/chipset... You said CPU, nothing else. And no, Im not going to take ANY lesson from someone who clearly dont know where he's talking about, showing he's desperate by using Caps so much and sais that Kingpin and Macci dont know what they're doing.

And why do Ive to post pics of my set up?

[Quake2owns]

Please lay off with the all capital letters, it's very annoying and no need for it.

I've never heard of Artifacts being caused by a CPU overclock. I'm not saying it's not true. It doesn't make much sense either, where CPUs don't produce the image. Although, I guess it is possible if the CPU feed corrupted information to the video card. But most of the time when a CPU corrupts the data, the game simply crashes.

-Dan
Or like he said the cpu is getting too less of vcore and your mobo cant supply anymore or just throwing cpu out of wack because of overclock and it corrupts the data being sent to the video card.

[Quake2owns]

Ok tell me when When i use a unstable overclock in 3dmark05 i get artifacts, but when i run the cpu with stable overclock no artifacts? weird huh? and the video card same temps so its not the CARD 100% SURE all of my video cards are fine ive seen this happen with every pc ive played with. my friends too

[djbbenn]

Usually when someone is running a really high unstable you know non superpi 32m or prime stable overclock you are maxing out your vcore voltage and like ram basically and stressing chipset so this leads to the video card not getting enough power and leads to visual artifacts . So in a sense yes cpu's cause artifacts.

There you go... you gave an explanation to why. Thank you, it's much easier than just stating and fighting.

That's the reason for bumping AGP/Chipset voltage, if you don't have the two, bumping one usually bumps the other one too. Or in the case of having both, you bump both a tad. It seems though, that Artifacts caused by a high CPU overclocking is not a very common occurrence.

-Dan

[Quake2owns]

There you go... you gave an explanation to why. Thank you, it's much easier than just stating and fighting.

That's the reason for bumping AGP/Chipset voltage, if you don't have the two, bumping one usually bumps the other one too. Or in the case of having both, you bump both a tad. It seems though, that Artifacts caused by a high CPU overclocking is not a very common occurrence.

-Dan

Even with bumping up voltage still artfacts you are just running the cpu at a clock it cant handle so it corrupts the data being sent to the card. The artifacts in 3dmark05 cannot be taken with a picture you know the first benchmark with the spaceship and like guys shooting? well with unstable overclock the guys appear like invisible or blank black and white in and mouse lol.

[Quake2owns]

im not saying my computer does now but ive had it happen on my ic-7 g my albatron p4cpro my dfi lanparty nf4 sli-dr my ECS. so there you go with all different video cards and cpu;s .

[djbbenn]

Yup, thats what I tell him all the time. He still didnt proof anything, not even a screenshot or so :rolleyes. Also he's already loosen his statements by saing its CPU/mobo/RAM/chipset... You said CPU, nothing else. And no, Im not going to take ANY lesson from someone who clearly dont know where he's talking about, showing he's desperate by using Caps so much and sais that Kingpin and Macci dont know what they're doing.

And why do Ive to post pics of my set up?

Ok, now see with you both going back and forth like this you don't get anywheres. When stating a fact, makesure you can back it up... this goes for everyone.

Now drop this little personal argument and turn it into a productive thread of why it's happening. Just because you haven't seen something does not mean it's doesn't happen or exist.

"You can prove something exist by finding it, but you cannot prove it's doesn't exist by not finding it."

-My Father (don't know if he made it up or he quoted someone else)

-Dan

[Rammsteiner]

Ok tell me when When i use a unstable overclock in 3dmark05 i get artifacts, but when i run the cpu with stable overclock no artifacts? weird huh? and the video card same temps so its not the CARD 100% SURE all of my video cards are fine ive seen this happen with every pc ive played with. my friends too
Wake up, you've been throwing away your whole statement in 5 minutes and already blaming other parts. Wel, because Im getting SO sick of this Ill tell you something. Its not your CPU, no, its your motherboard. Well, actually the voltage regulate system. And probably your PSU might be 'a' guilty factor too. It should be VERY easy to solve the problem, by usig the good relation between Vdimm/chipset Voltage and Vcore. If that wont solve it its clearly you've a broken mobo.

[Rammsteiner]

Ok, now see with you both going back and forth like this you don't get anywheres. When stating a fact, makesure you can back it up... this goes for everyone.

Now drop this little personal argument and turn it into a productive thread of why it's happening. Just because you haven't seen something does not mean it's doesn't happen or exist.

"You can prove something exist by finding it, but you cannot prove it's doesn't exist by not finding it."

-My Father (don't know if he made it up or he quoted someone else)

-Dan
Actually if its a problem by a faulty part its very hard to find it. He just gave a faulty statement what was clearly rubbish. I tried to correct him, but he's a very hard one to confess, thats very obvious. Actually he gave the answer by himself, anyway...

[djbbenn]

Even with bumping up voltage still artfacts you are just running the cpu at a clock it cant handle so it corrupts the data being sent to the card. The artifacts in 3dmark05 cannot be taken with a picture you know the first benchmark with the spaceship and like guys shooting? well with unstable overclock the guys appear like invisible or blank black and white in and mouse lol.

Yeah that's errors in loading it and because by the CPU/RAM more or less. Not so much the video card itself, I have seen that before. Most video card aritfacts are the little dots... But as they are distortion in the image, and that follows the definition of a Artifact, you can call them Artifacts.

It's a mix of a lot of things, and the whole system being unstable... computer's are a balanced system, pull one thing out, and it will fail.

-Dan

[dotsync]

so... its like a chain reaction :)


wow, look how off topic this thread got

its funny... im still getting emails when someone posts