0.25 Beta 13

[W1zzard]

- Logo changed
- Fixed problem with 3D clock change messagebox incorrectly saving answer state
- Changed voltage behaviour when switching profiles
- Fixed crash issue when switching profiles under high 3D load
- Added Driver Tweaks: Temporal AA, Level of Detail, Adaptive AA, Geometry Instancing, Catalyst AI.
- Fixed issue with incorrectly saved gamma
- Fixed VDCCI no getting saved to profile

This beta has a bug where artifacts will never be detected on any card
Please use b12 if you need artifact scanning.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/235

[SPHERE]

- Logo changed
- Fixed problem with 3D clock change messagebox incorrectly saving answer state
- Changed voltage behaviour when switching profiles
- Fixed crash issue when switching profiles under high 3D load
- Added Driver Tweaks: Temporal AA, Level of Detail, Adaptive AA, Geometry Instancing, Catalyst AI.
- Fixed issue with incorrectly saved gamma
- Fixed VDCCI no getting saved to profile

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/235

good job! thanks w1zz :p

my only request is for a aa and af level option so that i can ditch ccc and maby a edid override :) (if at all possible or you have the time :))

[ViperJohn]

- Logo changed
- Fixed problem with 3D clock change messagebox incorrectly saving answer state
- Changed voltage behaviour when switching profiles
- Fixed crash issue when switching profiles under high 3D load
- Added Driver Tweaks: Temporal AA, Level of Detail, Adaptive AA, Geometry Instancing, Catalyst AI.
- Fixed issue with incorrectly saved gamma
- Fixed VDCCI no getting saved to profile

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/235

Hi W1zzard

Any progress on the hard lock at the desktop when 25b12 was used with the 1900's and either of the 3D windows was open???

Viper

[dancinpuck]

the fur cube is back...

well when i was doing artifact scanning, i was getting lots of yellow dots, but it wasnt registering any errors. I dont know if its suposed to though.

Oh and is there a chance of fan control for the 7800gtx's?

and i assume the driver tweaks are only ati....

[W1zzard]

if you suggest driver tweaks for nv i can sure add them

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=behaviour i'm trying to avoid BE where i can but it sometimes happens.. got it drilled into me too much in school

sphere: edid override?

[Bull Dog]

Awsome new build. Installing now.

[SPHERE]

if you suggest driver tweaks for nv i can sure add them

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=behaviour i'm trying to avoid BE where i can but it sometimes happens.. got it drilled into me too much in school

sphere: edid override? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&oi=defmore&defl=en&q=define:EDID

in general overriding the default max res and refresh rates for crt monitors cause i use 2048x1536 @75hz but my monitor only officaly supports something like 18??x14?? so if it's not overridden it does that werid paning thing with the screen where it has like 1600x1200 atual res but there is like 2048x1536 of desktop area which you use the mouse pointer to pan across overriding the edid avoids this i've found

this option is in ccc if you dont know that im talking about :)

[Migons]

Could someone post a screenshot with the new logo included? :rolleyes:

[W1zzard]

http://img.techpowerup.org/060208/Capture146.gif

[SPHERE]

Could someone post a screenshot with the new logo included? :rolleyes: http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/1396/newbitmapimage1cg.th.jpg
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/1396/newbitmapimage1cg.jpg

oops w1zz beat me lol

btw w1zz whats your take on my cube in that pic?

edit:
i think i found the source of the skipping cube
when i disable temp monitoring it goes away for me

[dancinpuck]

hey i think i found a bug in the gamma settings

whenever i load the default profile, it sets the gamma brightness values to 0,0,0 in the "profile.ini". cant change then manually because it justs changes them back whenever atitool is restarted

[Default]
CardID=9504000
Core=275.00
Mem=600.00
Core2=415.00
Mem2=600.00
Core3=470.00
Mem3=600.00
NumKeys=0
Comment=
Gamma=100, 100, 100
Gamma brightness=0, 0, 0
Gamma contrast=100, 100, 100
[fast]
CardID=9504000
Core=275.00
Mem=660.00
Core2=415.00
Mem2=660.00
Core3=490.00
Mem3=660.00
NumKeys=0
Comment=
[realfast]
CardID=9504000
Core=275.00
Mem=652.50
Core2=415.00
Mem2=652.50
Core3=519.00
Mem3=652.50
NumKeys=0
Comment=

[W1zzard]

isnt that the meaning of "default" ? :)

[dancinpuck]

ok well something is messed up with the gamma because whenever i load the default profile, the screen gets really washed out. and the onyl way to get it back is to open the forceware gamma control and hit restore to default. I think the sliders may be messed up actually, because whenever i try to slide the brightness slider in ati-tool the system freezes and then the slider will either jump to -128 or +128 and the screen will go white or black respectively.
this is without hiting the "load" button at all

[W1zzard]

oh forceware .. anybody else see this on nvidia? anybody see this on ati?

[Bull Dog]

After playing around with ATi Tool, my display still crashes if I up voltage and clock speed at the same time. (screen goes and displays random colors, last time it was blueish patterened verticle lines)

Would it be possible to make it so that there is a delay between the time the GPU voltage is upped and when the clock speed increase is applied? Something like 2-3 seconds.

[Overjet]

Good work W1zz.
I'll try immediatly with my x1800xt ;)

Thanks a lot.

[Jodiuh]

You know this is just a prime example of a guy developing for the community. I seriously hope you got an inheritance or something W1z. Cause what you're doing for the comm just pwns.

Why oh why can't NV/ATI open up a forum for comments on their drivers!? They've got $$. What a nice marketing feature too!!

-----------------------------------
The power of 3.14...

NV comes full circle now with End User Intervention. Join us in making the next Forceware...YOURWARE!

[Spires]

Heya great update W1zz! Question, is there a way to run two instances of ATItool? One for a master card and one for a slave? Was wondering if messing with double registry instances can allow it? It would be cool to see two temps in the taskbar.

[shimq1]

Is the memory timings issue fixed?

[W1zzard]

there is no mem timings issue in atitool .... it's ati overclocker which changes them

[shimq1]

But I don't use ATI Overclocker.

[Clocked]

very sweet!

[R350np]

the fur cube is back...

well when i was doing artifact scanning, i was getting lots of yellow dots, but it wasnt registering any errors. I dont know if its suposed to though...

Same here!

When using "Find Max" artefacts are visible, but not detected!!!!
This happens since Beta11!!! :mad:

[plywood99]

Thanks for the new Atitool Wizzard. You da man...

[ViperJohn]

there is no mem timings issue in atitool .... it's ati overclocker which changes them

Yeah and BIGTIME too lol.

Viper

[ViperJohn]

Same here!

When using "Find Max" artefacts are visible, but not detected!!!!
This happens since Beta11!!! :mad:

There is a sensitivity adjust in ATItool...try it.

Viper

[OBR]

Again! Does not work correctly with X1800 a X1900, Wizzard man, we dont need every month new ATItool, whitch does not work with ATI cards...

[SPHERE]

Again! Does not work correctly with X1800 a X1900, Wizzard man, we dont need every month new ATItool, whitch does not work with ATI cards... sry but seriously take a hike dude.. w1zz is doing all he can and if that isnt enough for you then dont even post.

[mR Yellow]

Again! Does not work correctly with X1800 a X1900, Wizzard man, we dont need every month new ATItool, whitch does not work with ATI cards...

Ungrateful :mad:
ATiTool is the best OC Tool for ATi cards atm.
Works for me :D

[Rammsteiner]

sry but seriously take a hike dude.. w1zz is doing all he can and if that isnt enough for you then dont even post.
Yeah, take it easy mate!

But ehm, Im getting also the problem a yellow dot appears, stays for a few seconds and then it goes away. And then there comes another one etc. But nothing is detected (also after changing the sensitivity slider).

Im a bit unsure whats the problem then;
Atitool messes things up and just shows an artifact whats no there or;
Atitool just dont see the artifacts.

Maybe the artifacts are real because the cube is 'good' for heat IIRC, and my GDDR3 seems to suffer a lot, Ive everything undervolted for the memory, but if I go lower it will freeze I think... But my core is doing very fine 740, but memory 820... I NEED BETTER COOLING: mad:.

[W1zzard]

Again! Does not work correctly with X1800 a X1900, Wizzard man, we dont need every month new ATItool, whitch does not work with ATI cards...

dear obr,

you are free to uninstall atitool and use another tool to which works better for you. unfortunately i can't offer you a refund for the $0 you paid.

[ViperJohn]

Again! Does not work correctly with X1800 a X1900, Wizzard man, we dont need every month new ATItool, whitch does not work with ATI cards...

(1) Operator Error
(2) It is a Beta and Beta's may not work correctly under all circumstances.
(3) It is kinda hard to fix what problems you think you are having with such precise information like "Does not work correctly"!!!
(4) If you do not like the way ATItool works then spend a few 100 hours writing your own OC tool program for the 1800/1900 cards then give it a way for free.

Viper

[ThorAxe]

Don't dis the Wiz OBR. Bloody DFU!

[W1zzard]

(4) If you do not like the way ATItool works then spend a few 100 hours writing your own OC tool program for the 1800/1900 cards then give it a way for free.


with only 100 hours you wont get even close to just reading the clocks

[W1zzard]

the artifacts detection problems are only present in direct3d it seems .. that's why i'm writing a second renderer for the x1000 series which uses opengl. learning something new every day .. now it's opengl

[5150 Joker]

Thanks for all the hard work W1zzard. Please ignore the morons that complain about a free product.

[coksakinol]

My graphic card ASUS EAX1800XT.And Smartdoctor tool doesn't work correctly.
But AtiTool is very nice.Thanks W1zzard..

[mR Yellow]

the artifacts detection problems are only present in direct3d it seems .. that's why i'm writing a second renderer for the x1000 series which uses opengl. learning something new every day .. now it's opengl

Thanx for the great app W1zzard. Without it my card would just be plain ordinary.
Your hard work is much appreciated in the community.

Have u had any luck with the G15?

[FnFnF]

Nice new logo, but I still have these problems (Like Beta 12).


Artifactscanning doesn't work on my Gigabyte 6800GS PCIe, the whole screen can be one big artifact, and it is just clocking more and more over.
And I'm partly missing the option to select one slider to overclock, because it is always using the 2D, and I don't need that one, I need the 3D slider...
For the rest, great bunch of software!


Any chance to see some fixes for this soon?

Thanks!

[Napkin]

sorry for my stupid question but, i dont like the overclocker tool as much as the atitool. so is it possible to change the 2d and 3d settings seperatly for one profile? or is there a way to change only the 3d clocks? i heared that atitool only changes the 2dclocks...

please help me with that
chris from germany

[mR Yellow]

sorry for my stupid question but, i dont like the overclocker tool as much as the atitool. so is it possible to change the 2d and 3d settings seperatly for one profile? or is there a way to change only the 3d clocks? i heared that atitool only changes the 2dclocks...

please help me with that
chris from germany

ATi Tool has 3d Detection...so u can set a clock for 2D and a clock for 3D. ;)

[Urlyin]

I want it to automaticly change speeds to the super duper highest and I think I need 24/7 phone support ... can you add a mp3 player to it so I can sit back and listen to sound tunes while it maxs to the super duper highest? No effort on my part should be required, so no need to post the instructions anymore... I don't think I'll need to email a bug report or offer any more info other than it's broke fix it ... geezz How do you expect me to drink Red Bull and eat my Cheese Curls? :slap:

[Napkin]

sorry for my stupid question again hehe.. but where can i set the 3d clock?
is it set when i open the 3d window?

[EvilBDGamer00]

It still dosent work with my Sapphire X1800XT (6 MOSPHET)
At the beggining it askes me to delete the 2D 3D mode ATI file then i get a default speed of 600/700 and cant go beyond 610/720 even with full fan speed.

[mtosev]

@W1zzard

How about adding the FPS rate to be shown in games? :cool:

[Napkin]

@evilbdgamer.. do you have deactivatet any ati stuff in the msconfig settings?
i think the hotkey poller or some other ati software kicks your overclocking with ati tool!

greetz
chris

[zekrahminator]

@W1zzard

How about adding the FPS rate to be shown in games? :cool:

dude, that would be awesome!

[R350np]

There is a sensitivity adjust in ATItool...try it.

Viper

The "sensitivity adjust" is on lowest overclock, see here:

1770

[Riptide]

Does the artifact scanner work? I have an X1800XT. I would like to test my temps by using the scanner if possible. Do I need to disable any services before I load this or turn off overdrive?

[ViperJohn]

with only 100 hours you wont get even close to just reading the clocks

I said "a few 100 hours". That is up to 999 hours and he might have a working but unstable program then. Double that and he might have a usable beta for people to complain to him about lol.

Viper

[Urlyin]

I said "a few 100 hours". That is up to 999 hours and he might have a working but unstable program then. Double that and he might have a usable beta for people to complain to him about lol.

Viper

Viper want some of my cheese curls? I guess the 24/7 phone support is out .... he doesn't answer phone :slap:

[jason57570]

hey wizzard is 1.575v vcore on the x1900 the max or the max you set? if you can go higher like 1.6-1.625v that would be great

[GH Z]

I second the motion for higher VGPU if possible.

I noticed LOD is in the Driver Tweaks now, but it doesn't work on X1900 does it? There is no drop list. What
Reg key(s) does this modify/create?

Also curious about VDDCI. When is this applied to the core, all the time or only in 3D mode? Once memory clocks are set, changing them slightly (When over 880mhz) causes desktop artifacts. If they are set at once from boot it's fine???

Thanks for all your work W1zzard :)

[zekrahminator]

Just a quick question about ATItool...how do I access the voltages of my 9800 "pro"? Otherwise I love the stuff I can do from ATItool. Who needs CCC when you got ATItool? lol

[mtosev]

I have problems with beta 13 on my notebook. The Find max core will clock until ATI VPU reserts the card. Def clocks are 351/230. ATI Tool clock the core to 430 then ATI VPU reserts the card.

Mobility 9600
CAT Mobility 6.1

[ViperJohn]

Just a quick question about ATItool...how do I access the voltages of my 9800 "pro"? Otherwise I love the stuff I can do from ATItool. Who needs CCC when you got ATItool? lol

You don't. 9800's and x800/x850's are hardware adjustable only.

Viper

[cayers71]

Hey Viper...voltage adjustments are handled with graphite to increase impedance across the resistors...is that correct? Are you aware of any posts out there detailing the steps for raising the various voltages on the x800/850 series cards?

Thanks in advance...

[Gnerma]

Ok lets get a few things established here:

1) ATITool's "new scanning method" is totally non functional on all X1000 series cards. This is why w1zzard is working on an opengl rendering method.

2) ATITool's "new scanning method" doesn't seem able to detect any artifacts on many if not all card types. I personally have noticed this behavior since beta 11.

If you have evidence to the contrary of either of these points please post.


#2 is likely the source of your problem mtosev

[W1zzard]

for the lod tweak doesnt it say valid values -10 to +10 ?

[ViperJohn]

Hey Viper...voltage adjustments are handled with graphite to increase impedance across the resistors...is that correct? Are you aware of any posts out there detailing the steps for raising the various voltages on the x800/850 series cards?

Thanks in advance...

Pencils are a lame way to do it.

It's Other way around. You are decreasing the resistance when you parallel.

Viper

[maks_1]

nice work W1zzard.

thanks for keeping the furry cube :)

[imod]

Well done Wizzard! 10x for beta13.:respect:

[Bull Dog]

@W1zzard

How about adding the FPS rate to be shown in games? :cool:

Use Fraps. Or better get a Logitech G15 keyboard AND use Fraps.

[Dr.Dos]

I'm geeting bad screen corruption and lockups instantly when switching to a profile with fast settings/high voltage (X1800XL - 720/730MHz - 1.35/2.30v). Beta 12 was 100% stable for me so I'll skip Beta 13.


Thank's a lot W1zz for this great tool, I think I still got you in ICQ from the very old days (not using ICQ for many years...). Greetings from Cologne. :)

[pegasus_gr]

@W1zzard

I've been having problems using the 'Lock Reference divider' option. Up untill 0.24 I could selct this options and keep the divider at 6.75. With 0.25 beta9 to beta13 this option doesn't work. As soon as I revert back to 0.24, everything is back to normal.

Have tested it with 2 cards (9800pro and X800GT).

Can I expect a fix?

Other than that, I've been using your program ever since I got my 9800. Good work :)

[deathman20]

I'm geeting bad screen corruption and lockups instantly when switching to a profile with fast settings/high voltage (X1800XL - 720/730MHz - 1.35/2.30v). Beta 12 was 100% stable for me so I'll skip Beta 13.


Thank's a lot W1zz for this great tool, I think I still got you in ICQ from the very old days (not using ICQ for many years...). Greetings from Cologne. :)

Ya I have the same problem as you. While its on the lower side 621/688.5 it would freeze and blackscreen me when loading into windows for instance with 1.2/2.075/2.004V. Beta 12 didn't have this issue and my slightly slower clock of 580/700 for instance had no issues with Beta 13 with 1.15/2.1/2.

[KennyT772]

ok this seems odd but here it goes. i have a sapphire 9600xt 128mb. i know this card has temp monitoring threw ccc but it isnt shown on atitool .24 or .25b12. support would be awesome. thx w1zz

[EastCoasthandle]

W1Z,

Is B13 are excellent, keep up the good work :toast:

Is it possible to add a simple GUI screen that would allow an enthusiast OC his video card to monitor temps and voltages? Here is an example to show you what I am talking about. It doesn't have to be this exact format. As long as you get the idea.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/X1800xt4temps4.jpg

[Oil King]

Hi everyone,
I just installed a Sapphire x1900xtx . The ATITool shows my VGPU @ 1.175V and the MVDDC/MVDDQ @ 2.086V in default mode . Are these values correct ?
Thanks in advance for help .

[RuckusNuts]

Hello and thanks for the cool tool. I thought I'd drop a line and give some feedback and try to pick your brains as i'm pretty new to the Grafix card OC'ing. When I run ATITool Beta13 on my X1600 Pro 512mb and try to find the max memory, at about 425 (stock cpu setting of 500) my screen garbles up and ATI tool keeps raising the Bar. Default memory is 405. It dosnt seem to catch the Artifacts, and when i say garbled i mean it is f-in up bad. Its scares the crap outa me. Also my screen flickers briefly everytime the program changes memory settings, should this happen? Also I am wondering if an average frame rate of 88fps is par for this card at stock settings. And how hot is too hot for the core? One more question if ya dont mind, it says my fan speed is at 26% anyway to change this? TIA

My specs are
AMD 3700+ 939 at 2.2 on an ASUS A8R-mvp with 1gig (512*2) 333mhz <- cheap ass dell ram :)

[overcast]

EastCoast, what tool is that ?

[RyderOCZ]

EastCoast, what tool is that ?
Rivatuner

[KYLE7]

Anyone want to tell me why mcafee thinks all copys of beta 25 are viruses?

24 doesent...

[Valus]

Anyone want to tell me why mcafee thinks all copys of beta 25 are viruses?

24 doesent...

thats because mcrapee is worthless. personaly i would suggest un-installing it b4 it does some dmg to your system, and would rec Norton Internet Security 2006, or if your more computer savy use AVG, in conjunction with Ad-aware or something better :).

does anyknow know if .25b13 has any issues with ATI Cat 6.2? b4 i install it.

[ViperJohn]

Hi everyone,
I just installed a Sapphire x1900xtx . The ATITool shows my VGPU @ 1.175V and the MVDDC/MVDDQ @ 2.086V in default mode . Are these values correct ?
Thanks in advance for help .

In 2D mode the Vcore is correct.

Viper

[GH Z]

for the lod tweak doesnt it say valid values -10 to +10 ?

Well this is what I can see :)
I cannot change the value by typing it into this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/ATIT-LODtab.jpg

I saw someone else post what they have like this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/lod3.jpg

I don't see the 3D Settings screen anywhere by clicking anywhere inside the first screen or right clicking anywhere either. Tell me I am missing something very stupid :D

If you could tell me the correct registry key(s) I could do it myself :D Maybe I need to create a DWORD Value to go along with this (TextureLod_DEF) String?

I have tried with Hotkey Poller enabled & disabled.

[W1zzard]

isnt there a tooltip over the grey text labels?

[GH Z]

Yes the tips are there but thats it. Maybe it's reading the first CLSID it finds, I have uninstalled CCC a couple of times. Might have duplicates in the registry? Should I have the 3D Settings Tab/Screen? I don't have AI level there.

[RejZoR]

I bet McAfee detects ATiTool as New.Malware.X (some letter instead of X).
Thats because McAfee detects more "exotic" packers as possibly malicious.
So if you use Morphine, MEW or UPack on your app it will most probably be nailed by McAfee even though it's perfectly clean. And i belive W1zzard wants to protect the code from being "stolen" by reverse engineering. At least not everyone can deal with that when there are crypters and packers (alot harder). But thats the way how McAfee works. Maybe it will be any better when they release Engine 5.0.0.0...

[OBR]

Wizzard, i am stupid, SORRY, SORRY! This beta is working GOOD with X1800 and X1900...

Thanks...

[jojesa]

Wonderfull tool, W1zzard, your name says it all.
Have a X800Pro running @ 580/1200MHz (475/900 stock)
Only if I could unlock those 4 pipes

[Overjet]

sorry w1zz only one question... When the function to dump vga's bios will be working ?!?

Thanks a lot.

[SPHERE]

sorry w1zz only one question... When the function to dump vga's bios will be working ?!?

Thanks a lot.
what card do you have?

[W1zzard]

sorry w1zz only one question... When the function to dump vga's bios will be working ?!?

Thanks a lot.

not so soon i think .. use the winflash from our downloads section .. it works in windows and with all cards

[KYLE7]

thats because mcrapee is worthless. personaly i would suggest un-installing it b4 it does some dmg to your system, and would rec Norton Internet Security 2006, or if your more computer savy use AVG, in conjunction with Ad-aware or something better :).

does anyknow know if .25b13 has any issues with ATI Cat 6.2? b4 i install it.
Yeah i used to have it...

i reformatted and i just wanted to know why it did that.

[freemane70]

Hello Wizzard

Great work, But I have a question, I dont see the GPU current draw, maybe there is something wrong. All the time is reading with cero 0.0 *ilde or load.:(

BTW > I am running with ATI Cat 6.2

[GH Z]

Wizzard the problem with LOD appears to be Windows 2000, it works fine for me on XP. So I will ask again, can you give me the registry key information that ATI Tool is using for LOD? Maybe that way i can get it working on 2000 :)

[RejZoR]

One question Wizzard...
Yesterday i was playing Age of Mythology as usual (1024x768, 8xQ and 16xAF) with my 6600GT. Card was overclocked to 550/1200. And this wasn't the first time, because i played it alot these days. I'm playing as usual and all the sudden green and/or blue pattern starts to appear all over the screen. W00t i quickly shut down PC and use some giant fan to quickly cool it down. I start the PC again and that damn pattern was there on POST scren already, also in bootup screen and even in windows.
I put old Radeon 9600 Pro back in and everything is fine.

Now my question is, was this 6600GT already faulty or was ATiTool something to do with this? I'm not blaming you, i'm just looking for reasons for this.
It should downclock if overheated so heat shouldn't be the problem.
That patter also came from nowhere instantly (not slowly appearing artefact by artefact).
Is it possibly that ATiTool forced downclocked frequencies so card couldn't downclock even though it should? Thx for help

PS: Thank god i haven't sold R9600 Pro yet hehe:D

[ViperJohn]

One question Wizzard...
Yesterday i was playing Age of Mythology as usual (1024x768, 8xQ and 16xAF) with my 6600GT. Card was overclocked to 550/1200. And this wasn't the first time, because i played it alot these days. I'm playing as usual and all the sudden green and/or blue pattern starts to appear all over the screen. W00t i quickly shut down PC and use some giant fan to quickly cool it down. I start the PC again and that damn pattern was there on POST scren already, also in bootup screen and even in windows.
I put old Radeon 9600 Pro back in and everything is fine.

Now my question is, was this 6600GT already faulty or was ATiTool something to do with this? I'm not blaming you, i'm just looking for reasons for this.
It should downclock if overheated so heat shouldn't be the problem.
That patter also came from nowhere instantly (not slowly appearing artefact by artefact).
Is it possibly that ATiTool forced downclocked frequencies so card couldn't downclock even though it should? Thx for help

PS: Thank god i haven't sold R9600 Pro yet hehe:D

All cards have a finite life span that is inherited at birth. It can be from minutes to 20+ years with no way to know how long it will be ahead of failure. Yours just hit it's EOL. RMA it.

Viper

[RejZoR]

Yeah, thats what i'll do tommorow :( Though it's bad coz i don't know if i'll be able to get the same (this one had a very cool heatsink that covered entire GPU and all memory modules). All others i've seen had naked memory modules and that kind sux.
We'll see tommorow...

[ISSA2000]

with out ati tools system work ok (2+ hours bf2) + motherborde monitor


with ati tool 12 after a while - game dropps and some times computer rebbots and some times it does not but my lcd monitor goes searchinf for a display (dvi / analog etc)

temp of video card got to 118d cel via mbm5 befoer crashins- shuting down..

log will say (last 1/2 to 1 hour it will go to max 110 then last logs (every 10 sec)

111 dc
112
113
etc

to
118 d cel

then video cards shuts down (to protect t self)

does the same with 6.2 and 5.13

all warnings are turn off.

does not do this when ati tools in not loaded.

(default system) everything not clocked

ill try new beta version

see if it fixed

-
ps his 1900 xtx 512 card +4800 + dfi expert board. 2 g ram 600w psu (34amp 12v line) adj 12+ 33 v lines etc..

normal runn temp (after 4 hours+) case open (in windows desktop) 68 d cel

runs very hot this new card.:respect:

[zekrahminator]

One question Wizzard...
Yesterday i was playing Age of Mythology as usual (1024x768, 8xQ and 16xAF) with my 6600GT. Card was overclocked to 550/1200. And this wasn't the first time, because i played it alot these days. I'm playing as usual and all the sudden green and/or blue pattern starts to appear all over the screen. W00t i quickly shut down PC and use some giant fan to quickly cool it down. I start the PC again and that damn pattern was there on POST scren already, also in bootup screen and even in windows.
I put old Radeon 9600 Pro back in and everything is fine.

Now my question is, was this 6600GT already faulty or was ATiTool something to do with this? I'm not blaming you, i'm just looking for reasons for this.
It should downclock if overheated so heat shouldn't be the problem.
That patter also came from nowhere instantly (not slowly appearing artefact by artefact).
Is it possibly that ATiTool forced downclocked frequencies so card couldn't downclock even though it should? Thx for help

PS: Thank god i haven't sold R9600 Pro yet hehe:D

heh, I just solved that problem with 9800 "pro" in my new rig. Um lets see, what all did I do... 1)check your VGA cooler's installation, make sure there arent any connections happening that shouldnt be happening (aka SHORTS) 2) rewire your components (HD, CD-RW, Fans...) and have it so that the video card has a connection as close to the power supply as possible, and there are few other things on that rail (undervolts are bad for high tech video cards). 3)Refasten you're video card to the motherboard, a loose connection will cause artifacting/short circuiting like crazy 4) Clear CMOS (okay, I dont havea logical explanation, but just to be on the safe side)
Good luck!

[RejZoR]

I'm not really that noob :P 6600GT artefacts even after 4 re-installations, R9600 Pro (backup) doesn't. Mystery solved ;)
Did the rewireing, cleared CMOS, used safe-mode, tried without extra power, same result over and over. Heatsink was certanly not touching anything.

[shimq1]

Have you tried it on a completely different computer?

[Ink]

hey all! well i just got an x1600 and in the overclock section it says i only have 4 active pipes. so i tried another tool (atitraytools) to see if it was this prog. but it said the same thing. anyone have any insight on this or know of another tool to verify this. i was under the assumption that the x1600 had 12 pipes. anyways w1z your tool rocks but if i only have 4 pipes instead of 12 then there is a company bout to have an x1600 surgically removed from there a**. any help is greatly appreciated thanks.

[EastCoasthandle]

ARGH!!!
What is the deal with ATI TOOL, I can set clock on this thing. If I set my core and mem it freezes before I can set my voltage. If I set my voltage it locks up before I can set my mem. How the heck do you use this??? Why can't you set core, mem, voltage and hit the "set" button so before anything is changed on the card?
This is totally confusing

[ViperJohn]

ARGH!!!
What is the deal with ATI TOOL, I can set clock on this thing. If I set my core and mem it freezes before I can set my voltage. If I set my voltage it locks up before I can set my mem. How the heck do you use this??? Why can't you set core, mem, voltage and hit the "set" button so before anything is changed on the card?
This is totally confusing

If you have either of the 3D windows open then close them first. You always set the voltages first and then run the clocks up. Also disable the ATI Hot Key Poller Service so you do not have split 2D/3D clocks and Vcore on XT cards.

Viper

[Ink]

hey all! ok i found out that the x1 series cards even though showing 4 pipes is actually 12. ati has put 4 pipes in which each makes 3 pases equaling the 12 pipes. anyways thnx

[Napkin]

i got a question about the current cpu draw..
with my x1800xt oc bios @ 750/900 it says
32,2 ampere! could this be possible?

32Amps, at 12V?!?!?!?!

how much watts is that.. ?

[Ink]

wish i could help but i have no idea

[KYLE7]

http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/1396/newbitmapimage1cg.th.jpg
http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/1396/newbitmapimage1cg.jpg

oops w1zz beat me lol

btw w1zz whats your take on my cube in that pic?

edit:
i think i found the source of the skipping cube
when i disable temp monitoring it goes away for me
WTF I JUST INSTALLED .25 AND IT IS DOING THAT TO ME EXCEPT ON EVERY GAME I OWN!

WTF? I EVEN TRIED REINSTALLING .24 AND IT DIDNT HELP WTF SHOULD I DO?

:banghead:

[Napkin]

im asking this questio, because i got my x1800 3 weeks now.. and after this 3 weeks i cant run any 3d game longer than a few minutes.. than the computer starts to reboot..

and i got no idea of what problem this could be. i changed every part of it. with other 3d cards it reboots again after a few minutes.. so i dont think its the power supply .. the only thing it could be now is my 3 months old abit aw8 :banghead: :banghead:

damn

[KYLE7]

WTF I JUST INSTALLED .25 AND IT IS DOING THAT TO ME EXCEPT ON EVERY GAME I OWN!

WTF? I EVEN TRIED REINSTALLING .24 AND IT DIDNT HELP WTF SHOULD I DO?

:banghead:


Allright i completly uninstalled ATI tool and all my games work....


Where are the ATI Tool file locations that arent uninstalled? cause i need to remove all traces of ATI Tool to use it again...

[ViperJohn]

i got a question about the current cpu draw..
with my x1800xt oc bios @ 750/900 it says
32,2 ampere! could this be possible?

32Amps, at 12V?!?!?!?!

how much watts is that.. ?

That is not at 12 volts (32 x 12= 384 watts in a DC circuit BTW). That is 32 amps at the Vcore being run which is about 1.34 with an XT in 3D mode for 43 watts.

The accuracy of the indication is "iffy" at best ( not ATItools fault BTW ) and you are really seeing only an average. Peak watts can easily be 2.5x that during 3D gaming and benchmarking.

Viper

[Napkin]

@kyle7

what was you problem with running games? because i got a problem with games too, and that could be possible startet up with the beta 13..

@viperjon.. thx man, thats why i was confused.. i thougth it was at 12v? what could be totaly shi...

any idea of my problem with my gaming...ati tool runs 1hour without any problem, but if i try to play a 3dgame it kicks me out after a few minutes

[KYLE7]

All shadowing goes away and basicly all textures are about.... 1x1.....

this happening to anyone elts? its only happened when i installed .25 now it never goes away
(tried installing .24) i used to have .24 and it worked perfectly but now none of em work and if there installed all my games are the shitz. can anyone help?

[KYLE7]

i think i found it theres three prefetch files in c/windows that are labeled ATITOOL so ill report back if that fixes it.

[Mekrel]

Hi W1zzard,

Firsty thank you for the continuous work you put into ATi Tool, it has come on leaps and bounds as I am sure you are we aware.

So far I would say the most successfull version of ATi Tool for me, was the previous beta 12 release as it seems as if beta 13 keeps upping the clocks untill VPU recover kicks in.

However, previously Beta 12 would get so high, and then back off by about 15mhz due to very small artifacts - which is probably correct.

Glad to hear that you have some ideas as to OpenGL being a solution to the artifact scanning.

This is on a X1800XL by the way. :)

good luck with future builds even though some do not appreciate it.

[W1zzard]

WTF I JUST INSTALLED .25 AND IT IS DOING THAT TO ME EXCEPT ON EVERY GAME I OWN!

WTF? I EVEN TRIED REINSTALLING .24 AND IT DIDNT HELP WTF SHOULD I DO?

:banghead:

search your registry for a LodAdj key, write down its value, post it here, then delete that key and see if the problem is fixed

[W1zzard]

That is not at 12 volts (32 x 12= 384 watts in a DC circuit BTW). That is 32 amps at the Vcore being run which is about 1.34 with an XT in 3D mode for 43 watts.

The accuracy of the indication is "iffy" at best ( not ATItools fault BTW ) and you are really seeing only an average. Peak watts can easily be 2.5x that during 3D gaming and benchmarking.

Viper

do you have any evidence that this is (only) gpu vcore? i think it's vcore too but not 100% sure.

[ViperJohn]

do you have any evidence that this is (only) gpu vcore? i think it's vcore too but not 100% sure.

Not definitively. While the datasheet on the Volterra VT1103 is not available it does have voltage out, temperature and current monitoring as part diagnostic information out. It is fairly safe to say that is the source of the current information signal and that ATI would take advantage of it (why re-invent the wheel).

The wattages work out too...well actually they seem a very much on the low side really. What we may be looking at is the current flow through single phase of the of the multi phase Vcore PS and not the total being drawn by the GPU off the Vcore PS.

BTW W1zzard did you get my email on the 25B13 testing with the 1900's???

Viper

[W1zzard]

yeah atitool reads the measurement from the volterra vreg .. but the great mystery is how the current draw is measured :)

i got your mails .. installing x1900 right now to replicate it

[ViperJohn]

yeah atitool reads the measurement from the volterra vreg .. but the great mystery is how the current draw is measured :)

i got your mails .. installing x1900 right now to replicate it

Shouldn't be to hard. I've seen a couple of users over at Rage3D having the same issue.

What they are probably doing is metering the voltage drop across one or more of the Vcore phase series inductors. Since the impedance of them is known it is just ohms/watts law from there to get the current flow through a phase. Multiply that by Root 3 / Root 4 / Root 5 (depending on the number of phases) to get total current out of the PS.

Viper

[sy5tem]

well i just want to tell the creator of ATItools a big thank you for this nice application without it the world would suck a little bit more hehehee

[KYLE7]

search your registry for a LodAdj key, write down its value, post it here, then delete that key and see if the problem is fixed
ok its fixed theres 2 files labled ATI TOOL in c:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/DRIVERS

and theres 3 prefetch files .pf labled ATI TOOL

after deleting those its all fixed im running with .24 again and with 5 fps more than before! (WTF?)

[ViperJohn]

ok its fixed theres 2 files labled ATI TOOL in c:/WINDOWS/SYSTEM32/DRIVERS

and theres 3 prefetch files .pf labled ATI TOOL

after deleting those its all fixed im running with .24 again and with 5 fps more than before! (WTF?)

Dang makes me so glad I have prefetching, Dll Cache and all the other crap disabled lol!

Viper

[KYLE7]

could you give me the registry hacks for that?

i allready have prefetching disabled

[SPHERE]

http://www.overclockstop.com/microsoft-os/627-windows-xp-optimization-guide.html i think its in the same folder as the l2 cache key

[M Diddy]

http://www.overclockstop.com/microsoft-os/627-windows-xp-optimization-guide.html i think its in the same folder as the l2 cache key


How would that L2 cache setting wokr for a 920 being I have 2 x 2048 of L2 cache? Would I set that to 4096???

[deathman20]

Don't know if this was said before but at least I noticed it with the Beta 12 and 13's so far. If viewing a 3D window, rthdribl in this case, and hit the settings button for sure theres an instant crash. If its minimized it doesn't cause the issue.

Also don't know if its a smart move but in older versions I know it crashed if a 3D window was open when changing clocks, rthdribl also in this case too, was wondering if that was the case also? Or just plain don't do it, just curious to what others recommend. If minized it won't happen.

[freemane70]

Hello Wizzard

I want to save my Bios X1900 XT before flashing to XTX, there is option in ATITool but is unavailable, is this because is a Beta or is not working right..?

Sincerely
Freemane70

[W1zzard]

use the ati winflash from our downloads section

[RejZoR]

Excellent news :) They RMA'ed my 6600GT right away i just have to insert it now.

[deathman20]

Hey W1zzard just curious if you heard anything on this. With vista coming out later this year suppositly, will the new 3D detection method work since its OpenGL? Well and Vista is DirectX based expecially if you have the Aero desktop.

Just curious if you have heard anything on this.

[Edu_Gnipper]

Hi there friends,

W1zzard, can I make a suggestion? PLEASE make ATi Tool more compatible with GeForces cards. If u do, u software gonna blow around the world.

OBS: Try to support 6800GS AGP and PCI-E on next release. Thanks a LOT.

[W1zzard]

This beta has a bug where artifacts will never be detected on any card
Please use b12 if you need artifact scanning.

[eyebex]

Just FYI: I was playing with beta 13 to overclock my FireGL V7350 (device ID 0x712f). It does only partly work: Initially displayed clock rates above the sliders are 594 / 648 for core / mem. I increase core to 598, press "Set Clock", and the slider snaps to 598,50. But after pressing "Default" the core clock goes to 599,40 MHz instead of the expected 594 MHz.

[EastCoasthandle]

W1Z,

Could you tweak B14 to have ATI Tool Show you wht type of video card is being used (some where on the top in big bold lettering) along with the the voltage sliders on the same page as the core and mem settings? Or at the very least a side a task bar or side bar on ATI Tool showing the actual voltage used? The reason is to help properly show settings when people post pics of their ATI Tool OC settings. in different fourms. Folk are gettiing tired (and in most cases forget) to post their voltage settings when they post pics of the ATI Tool in thread dedicated to helping others know what voltage settigns work best with what mem and core settings. There are a lot of forums out there that are attempting to record accurate, working OCs for the x1000 series but when they post pics of ATI Tool they omit (for one reason or another) information regarding the voltage and there is no way to get them to remember if its been weeks since they posted.

That brings another idea: Once an overclock is successful could you have B14 ask if the user want to save those settings? We all know how fast x1000 series locks up or does something to tell you this OC does not work. So lets say a 30 second counter starts once an overclock is set then a small popup screen asks if you would like to save these settings. And, a spreedsheet is saved to desktop so you have an accurate account over which OCs work and which failed. The user would have a cell in the spread sheet asking did this OC work Yes or NO. The user would manual enter the correct response.

Summary
-Name, manufacture, model of the video card on every ATI TOOL page (at least on the mem/core page)
-Voltage information on the same page as mem/core settings. Or a popup screen giving you that data for a quick printscreen for online forums
Small Popup screen would have:
Core XXX
Mem XXX
Voltage information XXX, XXX, XXX, XXX
-Quick save feature (enable, disable option)
-Possible ATI Tool generated Spreed sheet (enable, disable option) that would allow those who overclock the ability to keep track of their successful OCs without having to always write it down on scrap paper. This will help them better post their results in the forums.

[solideliquid]

Are there any adverse effects of keeping the core voltage on my X1800 XT above 1.4?

Anything over 1.375 results in a warning that I am setting the voltage too high.

[deathman20]

Are there any adverse effects of keeping the core voltage on my X1800 XT above 1.4?

Anything over 1.375 results in a warning that I am setting the voltage too high.

1.375 or 1.4 is like the default voltage for 3D on the XT.

[ViperJohn]

Are there any adverse effects of keeping the core voltage on my X1800 XT above 1.4?

Anything over 1.375 results in a warning that I am setting the voltage too high.

Not as long as you have the cooling to go with it. Atitool will warn you any time you increase the voltages much above stock levels. The warning can be disabled.

Viper

[ViperJohn]

1.375 or 1.4 is like the default voltage for 3D on the XT.

More like 1.340-1.350 metered on card.

Viper

[gragnak]

Ok.
'm a new user of Atitool and I think they're really good.
But it's the first time I try to oc my g-card using this software, so I've a few questions I hope you can answer:

MY SYS:
Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT
CPU: AMD 64 3500 Venice
RAM: 2 Gb (Kingston 2 x 1 Gb dual channel)
V-Card: ATI Radeon x 1800 sl

Installed Version Atitool Beta 0.25

Started find max res:
1 - How much time requires the program to end this process?
2 - My screen goes black after about 20 min and seeme to remain this way (I waited for another 30 min but remined always black). It's regular? Have I to be patient and wait more time?
3 - My card stop OC process with this message: VPU has detected parameters out of driver, refreshing to normal data (the message is similar to this, but I can't remeber it exactly. It seems to block ocing becuase exceed the driver parameters)
4 - I'm using the standard cooler sold with the card. Do you think it's better to install a different one before I try to overclock the card?

Thanks for your help

Sorry if I've asked silly questions but I haven't found info about these things in the forum.

[EastCoasthandle]

Can anyone make sense of this when using ATI Tool. Is there some sort of catch phrase that I am not getting when you refer to VDD???? I see three settings of VDD

- 1900XT -- 625/725 - 1.175 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 762/963 - 1.425 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling - Relaxed timings
- 1900XTX - 732/873 - 1.450 GPU, 2.151 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XT -- 702/779 - 1.375 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 720/900 - 1.425 GPU, 2.225 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XT -- 705/850 - 1.425 GPU, 2.127 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 751/882 - 1.500 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 698/823 - 1.400 GPU, 2.230 VDD - stock cooling

[M Diddy]

W1zzard,

Would it be possible to have two sets of sliders for a Crossifre setup??? It would make it much easier to OC then having to switch in the settings menu. Kinda like the NV boys have. I'm a proud owner of a 1900 Crossfire setup now and some things that would be good for Beta 14:

- Two sets of sliders, one for master card, one for ready card.
- An option ATT to enable Crossfire.

Is this something that's possible??? Thanks!

[HousERaT]

Can anyone make sense of this when using ATI Tool. Is there some sort of catch phrase that I am not getting when you refer to VDD???? I see three settings of VDD

- 1900XT -- 625/725 - 1.175 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 762/963 - 1.425 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling - Relaxed timings
- 1900XTX - 732/873 - 1.450 GPU, 2.151 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XT -- 702/779 - 1.375 GPU, 2.086 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 720/900 - 1.425 GPU, 2.225 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XT -- 705/850 - 1.425 GPU, 2.127 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 751/882 - 1.500 GPU, 2.200 VDD - stock cooling
- 1900XTX - 698/823 - 1.400 GPU, 2.230 VDD - stock cooling
Since you took that from my thread I'll try and clear it up for you. Generally a generic term for memory voltage. It's the second voltage line in ATITOOL voltage tab. ;)

[Jodiuh]

Here's an oddity. Whenever I reboot, ati tool asks me if I want to kill atiexw3432blah, blah, blah again. If I check the little "anti-reminder" box and reboot, it comes back. This is with beta 13. Fresh install of windows too.

[plywood99]

Here's an oddity. Whenever I reboot, ati tool asks me if I want to kill atiexw3432blah, blah, blah again. If I check the little "anti-reminder" box and reboot, it comes back. This is with beta 13. Fresh install of windows too.

I experience the same also...

[EastCoasthandle]

Since you took that from my thread I'll try and clear it up for you. Generally a generic term for memory voltage. It's the second voltage line in ATITOOL voltage tab. ;)

thanks for the help.. :toast:

[Brama]

Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Here's an oddity. Whenever I reboot, ati tool asks me if I want to kill atiexw3432blah, blah, blah again. If I check the little "anti-reminder" box and reboot, it comes back. This is with beta 13. Fresh install of windows too.


I experience the same also...


I have same issue

[Jimbojansen]

W1zzard i got a problem with ATiTool,.. (the same sphere had) http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2184/untitled9nh.jpg
how do i change it back ??
edit- never mind.. i got i back..

[coksakinol]

Dear W1zzard ;

I wonder you make mini AtiTool only gpu temp and fan speed control ?
Not overclocking.


Sorry my bad English.

[yogurt_21]

just use those features and don't overclock lol.

[Jodiuh]

I wonder you make mini AtiTool only gpu temp and fan speed control ?
Not overclocking.

*sip, sip*

C'mon...all the kids are doin' it. :pimp:

*passes the TIM and 99.9% alcohol*

[Dynamic]

So does this really work with the R580's or you just have to make sure you don't unlock the OVERDRIVE for the smooth run with ATI TOOL BETA? I've unlocked OVERDRIVE and installed ATI TOOL (probably not a good idea), but ATI TOOL is suppose to keep "ATI2evxx.exe" from not switching between 2d/3d right? I have set the same speeds as i had in OVERDRIVE with ATI TOOL and running the 2d/3d detection which causes the monitor to go out of sync. Either it's overheating which couldn't be possible or the card can't go up that high in frequencies since i've heard OVERDRIVE tweaks your memory for better performance. I don't know...

Note:So what voltages is everyone using to overclock the XT's? core? memory?

[Dynamic]

I just installed the BETA13 and when i go to overclock my CORE/MEM to 700/800 my screen goes blue and locks up. W1zzard take your time we are not pushy are we? lol...

Not:I like the fan adjustments/VOLTAGES in ATI TOOL, a plus. I just hope this starts to work out soon because i miss it like my gf, hehe.

[ribbell]

HI W1zzard.
I have the following problem with this beta:
After a system restart when i start ATITOOL i get an error about the kernel mode driver not running. I think this error refers to the driver ATITOOL.sys, that indeed is running.
Anyway if i reinstall ATITTOL and restart the program without rebooting, the error goes away. I have Windows 2000.
Thank you.

[Bull Dog]

I just installed the BETA13 and when i go to overclock my CORE/MEM to 700/800 my screen goes blue and locks up. W1zzard take your time we are not pushy are we? lol...

Not:I like the fan adjustments/VOLTAGES in ATI TOOL, a plus. I just hope this starts to work out soon because i miss it like my gf, hehe.

Dynamic. Make sure that no 3d screens are running whenn you change the Clock speeds. I'm guessing that at 700/800 your vCore is taking a little hike? If you are raising the voltage, then do it manually before you raise the clocks. The X18/9 cards don't seem to like having their voltage and clocks raised at the same time. You can usually get away with lowering both at the same time but I've had predictable results raising both at the same time; monitor goes haywire.

[Dynamic]

I've noticed some people are the net are having no problems going up in voltage/frequencies on their X1900's with ATI TOOL. That's probably what i'm doing wrong. I'd figured since OVERDRIVE loosin's your ram timings to get a better overclock wouldn't be the case with ATI TOOL which leaves your 1.1ns timings alone and just overclocks it. Probably needs more voltages with the fan at least at 80-90% hehe. So BullDog you still haven't overclocked yet with anything? Have you even unlocked the OVERDRIVE yet or are you still playing around with ATI TOOL BETA13? Let me know bro, thanks.

[RejZoR]

I don't get it why ATiTool starts to OC GPU at 300MHz where my stock 3D clock is 500 (GF6 6600GT). Waste of time waiting for it to even reach stock speeds.

[EastCoasthandle]

I don't get it why ATiTool starts to OC GPU at 300MHz where my stock 3D clock is 500 (GF6 6600GT). Waste of time waiting for it to even reach stock speeds.

I've tried ATI Tool and nothing works for me. CCC has given me the best 05 and 06 scores compared to Overclocker. Using ATI Tool it will not work for me at the same clock speed as CCC. Something is still wrong here...

[zekrahminator]

thanks to you, I shut up my otherwise-horrifyingly-loud X850! turns out there really isnt too much difference between 40% fan speed and 100% fan speed except the noise factor. As long as my card keeps below 60*C, its good.

[Streggi]

Hi

Whenever I use B12 it crashes before I get near the clocks set by Overclocker. I've disabled the ATI services - What am I doing wrong?

Streggi

[ViperJohn]

Hi

Whenever I use B12 it crashes before I get near the clocks set by Overclocker. I've disabled the ATI services - What am I doing wrong?

Streggi

Nothing. ATI's OverClocker.exe loosens the memory timings BIGTIME when it is used. ATItool doesn't. The difference can be as much as a 130Mhz (260ddr) between the memory OC's with the slower, tighter timed memory OC from by ATItool resulting in a faster card.

Viper

[ViperJohn]

thanks to you, I shut up my otherwise-horrifyingly-loud X850! turns out there really isnt too much difference between 40% fan speed and 100% fan speed except the noise factor. As long as my card keeps below 60*C, its good.

The plastic fan housing on the blower style cooler acts like a damn drum and resonates at multiply frequencies. Using can usually find a sweer spot in the 50 to 60 percent range where the housing goes out of resonance and the noise will drops off quite a bit. Get on either side of that and ya need ear plugs lol.

Viper

[Dynamic]

Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Here's an oddity. Whenever I reboot, ati tool asks me if I want to kill atiexw3432blah, blah, blah again. If I check the little "anti-reminder" box and reboot, it comes back. This is with beta 13. Fresh install of windows too.


I experience the same also...


I have same issue

Yeah, i think everyone is having that issue where it just won't stop asking you to kill the ATI 2D/3D switch app. Now when you do disable everything the functions in CCC does it still bother you with that same old question everytime you boot into Windows? Anyone...

[5150 Joker]

W1zzard:

Any idea why VDDCI has no value after the computer is turned on from standby mode? Every other voltage can be changed except VDDCI so if I attempt to set the X1900 XTX's clocks back to normal, the computer locks up since VDDCI isn't set.

Here's what it looks like after turning the system back on from standby mode:

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/273/atitoolstandby7pj.th.jpg (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitoolstandby7pj.jpg)

[Drascox]

I've save a preset overclocked value, stable no artifact MAX, which is (core = 272.70, mem = 213.30). however, whenever i load this preset, it automatically goes (core = 271.80, mem = 213.30), i have to manually add the core till 272.80 and then click 'set clock', only then it'll go back to 272.70.

how can it be fixed?

[ViperJohn]

Yeah, i think everyone is having that issue where it just won't stop asking you to kill the ATI 2D/3D switch app. Now when you do disable everything the functions in CCC does it still bother you with that same old question everytime you boot into Windows? Anyone...

Gees this is getting old it has been written so many times lol.

ATItool doesn't disable any services. It will close running instances of Ati2evxx.exe in the current Windows session whch disables the 2D/3D splits clocks and Vcore on XT or better cards. If you disable the ATI Hot Key Poller Service that permanently disables the2D/3D splits clocks and Vcore, CCC overclocking and the PC shutdown cold bug in one whack.

Viper

[Bull Dog]

I was playing around with overclocking and I raised my card (X1900XT) to 700/800 with no vCore increase. I then ran the 3dmark06 demo. It hung and I was forced to reset my computer. When I restarted my ATI Tool looked like this.

http://img.techpowerup.org/060223/What the heck.jpg

Wierd huh?
Restarting ATI Tool fixed the anomily but....
Where did all that extra stuff come from?

[Dynamic]

I've seen weird things like that happen with ATI TOOL, don't feel that you're the only one seeing odd things like this Bull. Anyhow i disabled the CLI.EXE in the registry since it's a resource hog and disabled smart/ati hot poller. This corrected the issue of the flickering that i noticed before. Installed ATI TOOL B13 and played around with 700/800 with 1.4v/2.135 and game would hang. So i just left everything to default and i would get weird studdering in COD when once in awhile. Example, would run and shoot and it would still continue...i was like wireless keyboard low on batteries, but it's not just closed ATI TOOL down and didn't happen. WTF? I guess my card needs either more voltages for even 650/775 since i've tried 1.4/2.086 for those frequencies and didn't like it. Not sure if the default voltages are correct with even 500/600 being 1.175/2.086 even since i get that weird studdering i told you guys about..i guess test test test....

[Jodiuh]

Gees this is getting old it has been written so many times lol.

Yeah, but I can't keep up with all the threads on the interweb, so it helps to hear repeated info about stuffs.

Does anyone know if overclocker changes latencies on the memory? :p ;) :D

[Dynamic]

Some people say it does and some say it doesn't. Same thing about OVERDRIVE in CCC. You have to observ i guess....

[5150 Joker]

Yeah, but I can't keep up with all the threads on the interweb, so it helps to hear repeated info about stuffs.

Does anyone know if overclocker changes latencies on the memory? :p


You should do a search then since even the above question has been discussed numerous times. Yes ATi OC utility loosens the latencies.

[feeric]

Sorry for this basic question :o

I launch the b13 on two different PC. On the first i have 6 sliders (2D, 3D etc), on the second i have only the 2 sliders Core/Mem.

I have search in the options of ATITools but nothing work for have all sliders.

Why i cant have the all sliders ? (cg is ATI X800GTO2)

[Dynamic]

Sorry for this basic question :o

I launch the b13 on two different PC. On the first i have 6 sliders (2D, 3D etc), on the second i have only the 2 sliders Core/Mem.

I have search in the options of ATITools but nothing work for have all sliders.

Why i cant have the all sliders ? (cg is ATI X800GTO2)

Which version of ATI TOOL did you install for the X800GTO2 machine? I had ATI TOOL .24 working just fine with my old X800GTO modded/overclocked.

[ViperJohn]

You should do a search then since even the above question has been discussed numerous times. Yes ATi OC utility loosens the latencies.

BIGTIME lol.

Viper

[W1zzard]

Sorry for this basic question :o

I launch the b13 on two different PC. On the first i have 6 sliders (2D, 3D etc), on the second i have only the 2 sliders Core/Mem.

I have search in the options of ATITools but nothing work for have all sliders.

Why i cant have the all sliders ? (cg is ATI X800GTO2)

the additional sliders are for nvidia cards and shouldnt be there on ati

[Mongo]

I used Beta 13 to overclock a new 7800 GS AGP. I locked all the sliders, turned on the 3-D view, and watched the temp.

Works great at core--467, mem--679. 3DMark05=6404

This is the first Nvidia card I've used with ATItool, and I noticed many differences.

[Edu_Gnipper]

ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 13 works fine with my eVGA GeForce 6800GS! But the scan don't detect artifacts...it runs and "burn" the card fine, but don't detect when artifacts appears.

W1zzard, please make Beta 14 more compatible with GF's cards!!!!! Your software rules!!!

:toast:

[W1zzard]

ATI Tool 0.25 Beta 13 works fine with my eVGA GeForce 6800GS! But the scan don't detect artifacts...it runs and "burn" the card fine, but don't detect when artifacts appears.

W1zzard, please make Beta 14 more compatible with GF's cards!!!!! Your software rules!!!

:toast:

if you read the first post you will see that beta 13 has a bug where artifact detection is broken on all cards

[Edu_Gnipper]

Hum...sry for that so...I don't saw...

W1zzard, are your intencions to make Beta 14 more compatible with GF's?

[feeric]

the additional sliders are for nvidia cards and shouldnt be there on ati


Ok :respect:

That's right i have a old nvidia on the first PC. :slap:

Just i am curious, why only for nvidia ?

[oarsome]

Hi,

Is it possible to have a running FP2 counter as in ati tray tools? I'm not sure if it's in the build but I can't find it
cheers,

a.

[Concorde Rules]

Good work m8y, this works a treat on my X1900XT, it fecks up CCC, so a word of warning :)

Plus Wizzard, you think you could include the quality slider things in the 3D driver settings? Also possibly a 'reset' button so whatever setting you have set are set, as sometimes I loose AA and AF in certain games, if you can do this I can drop ATT.

Pitty I have a carp X1900 :( 666/801 on stock V... need a better cooler...

Cheers Conc

[ViperJohn]

Hum...sry for that so...I don't saw...

W1zzard, are your intencions to make Beta 14 more compatible with GF's?

That is what "BETA's" are for lol.

Viper

[W1zzard]

beta 14 released: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=8954